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Windows Weekly 939: The House Hippo

Jul 03, 20252 hr 34 min
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Microsoft's latest round of layoffs hits Xbox Gaming hard as the company cuts approximately 9,000 jobs despite record profits. This week, Paul Thurrott and Richard Campbell discuss the impact of these layoffs, Windows 11's new version naming, Microsoft Copilot coming to Mac, and dive deep into passkey security.

LAYOFFS

As expected, Microsoft began a massive round of layoffs across Xbox/Microsoft Gaming on Wednesday.

  • The fiscal year started on Tuesday.
  • These were originally going to happen a week or two earlier.
  • 9,000 employees impacted across Microsoft - about 4 percent of workforce, Xbox/MSGaming was NOT hit hardest, Microsoft now says (on top of 6,000 in May).
  • 10 percent of King being laid off.
  • Carefully worded email from Phil Spencer requires some parsing.

It's Finally Official: 25H2 Is Next!

Microsoft finally admits that the Dev channel is testing Windows 11 version 25H2, which will arrive, as expected, around October

  • This news came as part of another set of commingled Dev and Beta channel builds.
  • 25H2 will be delivered as an enablement package, so it's a minor release technically.
  • Dev and Beta are linked because 25H2 and 24H2 are linked: Each will get the same features, as started with 22H2/23H2 in late 2023.

Windows 11

Last week was Week D, but we didn't get preview updates per usual before WW

  • That finally happened last Thursday - new preview updates for 24H2 and 23H2/22H2
  • 24H2: Click to Do improvements, start of PC migration in Windows Backup, small icons in Taskbar, more.
  • Windows Insider Preview: Those Dev/Beta builds noted above have the first implementation of third-party passkey. Microsoft Edge 138 is a pretty big update, with AI-enhanced history search and Copilot integration into the search box and new tab page.

AI

  • Microsoft 365 Copilot is available on the Mac.
  • Apple may cave and adopt Anthropic Claude and/or OpenAI ChatGPT for Apple Intelligence.
  • After Coda's acquisition and $1 billion in funding, Grammarly acquires Superhuman to build an "AI-native" productivity suite that will take on Big Tech (Microsoft, Google) and Little Tech (Notion, Proton) alike.

Xbox and Gaming

  • Xbox 360 dashboard is getting its first update in years.
  • Halo Studios teases an October tease of the next Halo from the studio.
  • New Game Pass titles for the first half of July - plus, COD: WWII turns up in Game Pass for the first time.
  • Cursor sort of comes to the web and mobile - like Adobe Firefly on mobile, but for devs when "the mood strikes".

Tips and Picks

  • Tip/App picks of the week: Cure Mac envy.
  • The Mac is about to get even prettier. But Windows 11 can rise to this challenge.
    • The PC matters: Paul recommends Surface Laptop 7 as a MacBook Air alternative.
  • Software? It's all free.
    • Full screen apps: Hide the Taskbar and touchpad gestures - also, use DS Clock if you need to see the time.
    • Transparent system menu? You can make the Taskbar transparent too.
    • Want Spotlight? No problem, we have Command Palette (an updated, more extensible PowerToys Run) in PowerToys.
  • Bonus app pick: Inoreader for RSS feeds (and read later if you want).
  • RunAs Radio This Week: More Azure Innovations with Mark Russinovich
  • Brown Liquor Pick of the Week: Alberta Distillers 23 Year Old Rare Batch No. 1

These show notes have been truncated due to length. For the full show notes, visit https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly/episodes/939

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell

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The most valuable company on Earth just announced another round of massive layoffs, and the hosts of Windows Weekly are struggling to make sense of it all. In episode 939, Paul Thurrott and Richard Campbell dive deep into Microsoft's decision to cut approximately 9,000 jobs, with a significant portion coming from the Xbox and Microsoft Gaming divisions. The timing couldn't be more perplexing—or more revealing about the company's true priorities.

The Numbers Don't Add Up

Paul Thurrott opened the discussion with visible frustration about the sheer scale of these cuts. This latest round follows 6,000 layoffs in May and another 2,500 in January, bringing the total to nearly 20,000 employees let go in 2025 alone. For context, Microsoft's market capitalization has soared to $3.7 trillion, making it the most valuable company in the world, trading places with Apple and Nvidia for the top spot almost daily.

The contradiction is stark: record profits, historic market valuations, and a supposedly successful integration of Activision Blizzard, yet thousands of employees are being shown the door. Thurrott pointed out that this represents about 4% of Microsoft's workforce, a significant reduction for a company that claims to be experiencing unprecedented success in gaming with more players, more games, and more gaming hours than ever before.

Phil Spencer's Corporate Speak Decoded

Perhaps the most revealing aspect of the layoffs was Phil Spencer's internal memo to the Xbox team, which both hosts dissected with barely concealed disdain. Thurrott described it as reading like it was written by "AI trained on legal documents"—carefully crafted to say nothing while appearing to say everything.

The memo spoke vaguely about "tough decisions made previously" leading to current success and the need for "discipline" in "prioritizing the strongest opportunities." But as Thurrott noted, it conspicuously avoided addressing the elephant in the room: Xbox's struggling hardware business and what these layoffs might mean for the future of Xbox consoles.

Richard Campbell observed that the extreme caution in the language suggested Microsoft was deeply worried about potential legal ramifications, particularly regarding labor laws in countries outside the United States where laying off employees is more complex and regulated.

The AI Factor Nobody Wants to Discuss

While Microsoft is being extremely careful not to explicitly connect these layoffs to artificial intelligence, both hosts noted the timing isn't coincidental. The company has been pushing hard for all employees to embrace AI tools, with internal communications essentially stating that those who don't adapt should leave.

Thurrott mentioned recent internal messaging that was surprisingly blunt about AI adoption being mandatory, not optional. The implication is clear: Microsoft believes AI can enable fewer people to do more work, making a significant portion of their workforce redundant. Campbell shared his own observations of developers using AI tools to complete six-week sprints in a single day, achieving productivity gains not of 20-30% as initially predicted, but potentially 100-fold.

The Gaming Division's Uncertain Future

The cuts hit particularly hard in gaming, with the shutdown of The Initiative studio and the cancellation of the Perfect Dark reboot and Rare's Everwild. This raised serious questions about Microsoft's commitment to first-party game development and, more broadly, to the Xbox hardware ecosystem itself.

Thurrott speculated that Microsoft is quietly transitioning away from hardware manufacturing toward becoming primarily a game publisher. The company can't say this publicly without completely undermining current Xbox sales, but the pattern is becoming clear. The push toward multi-platform releases, the focus on Game Pass over console sales, and now these deep cuts in gaming-related positions all point in the same direction.

The Activision Blizzard Integration Question

The hosts also addressed the elephant in the room regarding the Activision Blizzard acquisition. When Microsoft was fighting regulatory approval, they made various assurances about maintaining employment and independence. Now, less than two years later, employees from Activision Blizzard subsidiaries including King and Raven Software are among those being let go.

Campbell pointed out that while Microsoft never explicitly promised not to lay off Activision Blizzard employees, the current cuts seem to contradict the spirit of what was communicated during the regulatory approval process. The FTC had warned about potential job losses from the merger, which Microsoft dismissed at the time. Now those warnings appear prescient.

A Pattern Across Big Tech

The discussion expanded to note that Microsoft isn't alone in this behavior. Google, Amazon, and other tech giants are following similar playbooks—record profits coupled with significant workforce reductions, all while pushing aggressive AI adoption internally. Apple remains a notable exception, having largely avoided major layoffs even as its peers slash headcount.

What makes Microsoft's case particularly galling, according to the hosts, is the disconnect between their public messaging about success and growth versus the reality faced by thousands of employees. As Thurrott put it, if the company is doing so well, if gaming is more successful than ever, if AI is unlocking new possibilities, then why are they cutting so deeply?

The Human Cost of Corporate Strategy

Throughout the discussion, both hosts kept returning to the human element often lost in corporate speak about "realignment" and "optimization." These aren't just numbers on a spreadsheet—they're people with families, mortgages, and careers suddenly upended by a company valued at nearly $4 trillion.

Richard Campbell noted that he was already seeing the flood of "open to work" posts on LinkedIn, while simultaneously observing that many laid off in the May round had found new positions. The tech job market remains relatively healthy, but the psychological impact of these repeated rounds of cuts creates an atmosphere of fear and uncertainty even among those who remain.

Looking Forward

As the segment concluded, both hosts expressed deep uncertainty about what this means for Microsoft's future. Is this the new normal—a cycle of constant "optimization" where job security is a relic of the past? Will AI truly deliver the productivity gains that justify these cuts, or is Microsoft making a costly bet on unproven technology?

What's clear is that Microsoft is undergoing a fundamental transformation, one that prioritizes AI adoption and profit margins over workforce stability. The company that once prided itself on employee retention and internal promotion is now just another tech giant quick to cut costs despite massive profits.

The full discussion on Windows Weekly episode 939 includes additional insights on Windows 11's future, security concerns with passkeys, and the latest developments in AI technology. For anyone trying to understand the current state of the tech industry and where it's headed, this episode provides essential context and unflinching analysis of one of the industry's most powerful players.

Listen to the full episode of Windows Weekly for complete coverage of Microsoft's layoffs, Windows 11 version 25H2 announcement, AI's impact on productivity software, and Paul Thurrott's detailed security recommendations. Available wherever you get your podcasts or at twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly.

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