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Welcome back to all the smoke La. Good to see you, bro, my boy, We're yes.

We got two friends of the program today promoting their new film project Legendary Legendary Fellows Welcome to the show, too Short and my brother Simba.

What's up?

So you guys are on a tour right now promoting Freaky Tales. How does this type of tour and promotion differ from the music side of it or is it similar?

Man?

It's time you just it's the grind, man, when you when you got to go out and hit the spots and let people know about it.

You really don't get paid for that.

So that's that's the part of the grind, the promotional side where you know it ain't all listened glamour. I personally don't like moving around for free, but but it's a part of y'all. Man, You got to you gotta get out there and promote. Man, I'm getting on these planes waking up early. I think it took me on sit almost two hours to drive here this morning, but I'm clacking off six thirty.

Gonna do it, man, But what's it like for you?

Obviously he's been in the game since shit, we was little kids.

Yeah, it's different for you. It's new for you. It's newer for you.

Yeah, it's definitely a newer for me. But it's a dope experience, especially sitting alongside him, hearing a lot of stories I didn't know, just getting a lot of game. But me personally, man, I love it, you know what I mean. I love just being a part of this industry, being able to get out here and have something to put out to the world and get out here and talk about it promoted, and especially something as good as Freaky Tales.

How was the game changed from when you came up in it and we're in your prime to what the game is now and he's kind of coming up in it and entering his prime.

I was. I was coming in on the wave of fun hip hop. You know.

We got it from New York City and it was about rocking the party and you know what I'm wearing party rocking. And then it started getting real real serious, like run DMC came out of Mellie mel and Grandmaster flash the message. But we got in the game, and we didn't get in the game to get rich. I remember what my dream was when I was a young rapper, I really wanted to hear myself on the radio, and I really just wanted to whatever the next show was, I just wanted to rock the crowd.

That was it.

If I could rock the crowd, We're gonna do that. But if I hear myself on the radio, I'm like, way, we're doing it. It was a big deal, this game that they in from the moment they dream of it, they go, I'm about to get up in here and get it, and not just get famous. I'm about to get some paper because the exactly have already been set. You can get a lot of money rapping, producing, managing, just any part of this hip hop. You just get a slice of the pie. It's money in on it.

Know, wire the money, bro.

And I'm watching my young homies come in quick though, quick and getting a bad quick because if you get popular, you got multiple ways to get money.

That's the one thing I like about you. Is your versatility in this space.

Obviously you came in and rapping, but you got your hands in a little bit of everything, particularly acting now with this project.

But how how has the journey been for you?

And I think the beauty of what he just said was like they paved the way for us to dream bigger, you know what I mean. So they didn't technically have the social media's and certain things when they was coming up short. They had to get it out the trump you know what I mean, to really get to the people. So the way to pave the path they took allowed us to kind of diversify ourselves and look at things bigger. I remember as a kid seeing short movies, you know

Playing playing Young Short and Freaky Tails. What was that process? Like, I mean, we all grew up and know how you talking, know how you rap? How was that process of becoming him?

Man, it was like the coolest shit ever cause it was like I'll be telling the story all the time. We was on set one day and I made it this theme to not break character while I was on set, like I'm gonna be too short, even when I walked to the trailer when they cut everything. So I'm getting ready to go back to the trailer and have lunch, and I got on the old school starter jacket.

Yeah, the Green Boys.

So one of the director, if it was a director, somebody was working with the crew. It was like, man, that jacket's dope. I was like, thanks, bitch, was.

Like he was doing with it.

It was cool as ship to get to just.

Feel like.

You played the cop and you also narrate through the movie. Well you ever thought you played a cop in the movie.

I feel like I really didn't play a cop, man. I just I just did a cameo. I really didn't get it, to know, you know, all the way ice team mode and like people and stuff. I just they tried to slide me in on the cameo. It was a good scene, and uh, you know, I knew I was gonna be the.

Narrator, and I accepted that.

I was also a part of like some of the authenticity parts to the movie where they just need to know it was being done right. And yeah, you didn't see me with a bad It was just a little little pop up for you know. They wanted me to say bitch in the movie, so that's how they wrote it in.

I don't know about the cop playing.

Yeah, unless I can get on that, what's that show? I see his own many years?

Yeah, did you got a star study cast? Did y'all get to hang out with Tom Hanks?

No, Tom Hanks was you pretty much look at that scene. That's probably who got to hang out with him? Him in Pagro. Yeah, he got up out of there now. But Tom Hanks is from Oakland, California. A lot of people don't know that, and I think from what I heard and the wind, tom Hanks kind of had a sort of passion for the script the movie that it was shot in Oakland and he just wanted to show some love, so he did.

He did a big cameo big.

The big theme in the movie is Nazis and my skin heads and stuff like that. You did you have your own personal experience back in they seventh.

So I watched the movie.

I saw the movie actually a couple of years ago at one of the early screenings, and.

I just I was there. Everything is so real about the movie.

I actually talked to some some og punk rockers and they said, yeah, them skinheads used to come fuck with us. I'm from East Oakland, California. I looked at the movie. I was like, we never saw them dudes ever, like ever, ever, ever, And I just think it would be so interesting if on one of the nights in the truck with the fucking shit they ride around fucking with people.

They pulled up on like a house party in East Oakland, well on.

The corner where niggas was hanging out. That ship would have been interesting. But they never came around. I don't I talked to all my hommies. I'm like, you remember the Skinheads, Like, I don't know.

I heard about them. I think they was. They was going to other areas.

And one of the dudes, I think he was on set when they had remade to guil me the spot where the skin heads came to attack him, and he started crying because he was like man, remember yea.

Them, they have to fight them motherfuckers, like they.

Had to really go through it with them. So we probably never seen it. But that was a side of the Bay Area that was real, were real quick.

It was shot in open right. Yeah, what did that mean to you?

Because normally they'll go to Atlanta or find somewhere else that's taxing.

Yeah, you know, from what I hear from people who had problems shooting stuff in the past, you can't get the permits.

I can tell you firsthand.

We barely ever were was allowed to shoot any video missic videos in Oakland. We had to go renegade. We had to get subjugated to like a little neighborhood. That's I don't know what the rules were, but I've heard from other people who had like productions like Blind Spotting, that it's difficult to shoot in Oakland because of all the rules and regulations coming from city hall wherever.

So you you gotta get.

The shot, shoot and get and then you gotta go somewhere else and film this shit. So the people who did Freaky Tails, the production and everybody who was the powers to be to make it happen ran into those challenges. And they said that they just kicked up the extra money. There was a decision, do you want to do it like this, Let's just shoot what we could shoot in Oakland and then we'll just go shoot the rest of the movie elsewhere. And the directors were like, it's got

It was cool.

Look at the fuck you know, like we see San Francisco movies, we see La movies, we see movies from a lot of cities. By the time we start seeing some Oakland movies.

Exactly how was that role with minutes and how did that come about?

Well, you know, I got my part. What year was that? Yeah?

Exactly, somebody down there, somebody walk up say what blue Local? That was my character and minister Society. I got my part because if you notice, the star power is minimal. You got my man with Charles Dutton, he played the rock whatever he was, he was popping back.

Then Jada was like, like, nobody she was.

That was one of her.

Yeah, Tupac was in the movie and invited heard the story to fight Tupac the directors and ship. He was supposed to play the part of No. No, he was gonna play the righteous to Kansas. Yeah, he was gonna play. Yeah, he was gonna play.

Somebody. I heard the story different.

But he didn't want to play that character.

Yeah. I thought it was gonna be Yeah, I thought it was gonna be.

O Dog Sharif checked the research, believe you said, just woke a lot of ways too.

Yeah, we went exactly when they lost part.

They needed some they needed they want to rap her name, and they just called me and found found a slot for me. They gave me some cool little scenes though, because my couple of little scenes is like real.

So do you really burn the ribs? That? Did you really burn the ribs?

Was burned?

Well?

Probably on the first takes.

They wasn't burn Okay, just look like somebody.

Somebody else was cooking the ribs. I just stepped in. But that take their camp, you see that. I remember that.

It was some wild ship around there shooting man like they were shooting over and and fucking Jordan Down's projects.

Man fucking up where the Great Streets is at.

And it was some dudes that came up and start harassing to set a little bit, and m C eight, who is from Compton, went over a couple of familiar faces, you know, he chopped it up with him and he came back and he was telling me, it's like, look, they said, they're not gonna suck y'all up, but there's some other little niggas that run around here younger than them that if they come over here, nobody can control them, so you might just want to you know.

You know, they didn't.

They didn't do the proper introduction to the hood coming in and saying, hey, we're gonna be around for a few days, can we make it happen.

They didn't do that, and.

It was it was a little close call. They ended up having to shut down a little early. That's that alley scene they were shooting with the crackhead and ship. They probably would have got a little bit more, but it was a fun shooter.

Man so quick.

You know, I'm the only nigga in the movie that point the pistol at old Dog. He don't never really have no I'm like they gave me a and I humble a little nigga he like, you know, I had him scared for a minute and he was a plug too exactly.

You have.

My guy po man got a little kick.

You know who was in there?

They minutes maw you know. Hopefully Freaky Tales.

It's gonna be one of them movies that you know for years to come and have little scenes that people remember.

You know, that's dope.

As someone who lived it, you grew up looking at it. What was the eighties and nineties rap scene to you? And what inspired you the most? You touched on it earlier, But like break that down, man, it.

Was just fly you know what I mean. Like I remember being a kid, my mom like dressing me up in my school pictures and feelings, swist suits, you know what I mean. He was telling me how to pose and different things like that. So it was always just fly seeing you know what I mean? Seeing forty faute, you know what I mean. Everything was always just player. We was always before the bay got labeled. It's just like an aggressive ass place. It was how I've seen

You Fingerwaves never win finger because ain't that.

A lot of the boys finger went fing away man rock four finger Waves wave it.

You gotta curl, yeah, yeah, yeah, send itself had to curl.

I'm like that was a bad We had special hair stylists that did pip hair.

Dude, how did they keep that ship up like that.

Always?

Because I just kind of look right here, I assure that once by the time.

But from what I heard, the pimp got to like, you know, a nigga might have to just sleep like this nigga, you know Techne look at the he said, you might have to.

For someone that kind of helped create the sound coming out of the Bay. Obviously we heard New York and we you know, and then you come to the West coast and there's some in La by someone who is instrumentally in building the sound of the Bay Area. I mean probably in the moment you didn't realize that. But how prideful were you as being a part of that.

Well, you know, I'm I'm an older dude, older than damn near all the Bay rappers like Hammer might be older than me. He might, he might get me by a year, but forty on down mac dre on down, they're all a little younger man.

I'm like, I'm of age.

I was ten years old when George Clinton landed the Mothership in the coliseum, and I'm like a fifth grader.

Something like some shit like that.

And it don't mean nothing to say George Clinton leonard a spaceship on the stage. But nigga had ten years old and the p funk and the music, and my mama let me go to that concert with my brother and we just you know, no rental advisory. Were just funking out little niggas because the world wasn't while back then. You can tell a little nigga, you could say, go to that concert, be standing right here at fucking nine pm.

The nigga be standing right there. And it was that kind of world so I got I got to see the funk.

Man.

I've seen at a young age. I've seen that Rick James live on stage. I've seen Cameo, I've seen all that shit. And when I got a chance to start making music, I was just so funked out, just so Boosy Parliament funk the fuck out that I'm listening to all the hip hop coming from New York.

The first early records was Disco Records. All this shit on.

Sugarhill Gang, sugar Hill Records, and shit, a lot of the early songs was on Curtis Blow. He was on the disco vibe. It was like because disco was hot coming out the seventies. And then they instantly went into James Brown. So the East Coast rappers sample every fucking thing you could think of James Brown, every little loop you could find the funk. James Brown is the inventor of the funk. Parliament Boosy is the next generation. They got it from James Brown. So listen to the ship.

Just be like, talk hell of shit. So just talk shit.

And I think in the midst of styles of MC's in the whole world of hip hop, when they start talking about this style, that style of the flow, he speed up.

He'd do this cadence. That cadence, they really didn't really had that category called shit talking.

So all these years later they were like, well it's too short still relevant. Well, you know, two Short wasn't ever the best rapper, but I was the best shit talker.

The niggas just don't getting it.

They wasn't realizing I was just rattling the fuck out the speakers with the hell of base and just talking a lot of shit. And I think that shit went all over the Bay because the next nigga's up to bat was e forty.

Here he come a whole lot of bass, talking a lot of shit.

Next nigga up, Mac Dre. Everything he's doing, talking shit? We kicko Fota from the city. What's he doing? He's just talking a lot of shit. So I think all the Bay rappers we wanted to just lingo it up like the pimpsl was talking, like the street hustles was talking. And then all of a sudden, it was like the rappers was talking. So we set that tone. And if you listen to a young Bay rapper right now, seventeen eighteen, what is he doing?

Shit? He's just talking a gang of shit.

Even when a sob came out. Everybody, just every little era that comes out. The Russell now punchlining like a motherfucker. Just l Russell ain't even a bad guy. His image is not a bad guy image. Street talking that shit. So that's our legacy out there. I think, you know, the world should know they was, you know, all the motherfuckers who was all a lyrical super lyrical shit.

Hmm.

Should have put a little shit talking in there.

Mane you can't forgetting mac mall either. Man, all of us we.

Grew.

There's a whole bunch of us. Man, we just forty calls us game.

Spinners with The little girl's name is Dope from out that way.

Now Paris Knights, Yeah, period. I like her.

The Bay can be considered its own little almost world. It's so much different energy from bridge to bridge. What did you guys, how did you guys embrace park and and and master p when they came and set up shop out there in the early nineties.

I think, uh, they made a lot of friends and and it became home. So you know, I always I always referred to two Pocks quote when they said where are you from? He said, if I got to call someplace home. I'm gonna called Oakland home because that's where I got the game. And I think, uh, that's a big statement because he's from an area in the Bay called Marine City, proud of being from there. But he was just like I came to Oakland and got this certain game. Bruce Lee came to Oakland and got that.

Game shit back before hip hop. It's out there.

I heard people like Kat Williams say he went out to Oakland to live for a while just to figure his comedy shit out a little more so. Master PM has a lot of alliances in the Bay with people who were doing that independent hustle. How he learned it and how he figured out how to do it his way. He had a record store in Richmond, and he just absorbed it, man like, he was the record store owner, worked in his store and he was watching all this shit sell independently.

So you know, he figured it out. But it's shot.

G said he pimped his way across the USA to get to Oakland to motherfucking make music because wanted to be out there, you know what I Meanuck, A lot of motherfuckers know that I was born and raised in La I moved to Oakland at fourteen turned the fuck out. I never had a dream of rapping or nothing too short. I got to open and they fucking turned me into this shit. So it's just like it's like that, bro,

Good shit, Ablue.

Is it anything that you that you are envious about that the eighties and nineties rappers got that you didn't that, y'all? I'm getting this area this era. I think it was way more solid.

I think one thing God say is like, because it was a limited amount of resources, they had to be more creative. Yeah, facts, And I feel like sometimes my air gets lazy on the creative side because of everything we got at our disposal. When you hear some of them real Like he was telling me he had to rap Freaky Tales all the way through. I'm telling him, like, you know how long it took me to punch that shit?

The studio time, either on album.

Yeah, So I think the creativity. I'm somebody that like, I kind of overthink a lot, especially when it comes to write my raps, because I never I never want to feel like I'm wasting thoughts or just saying something to say it. I'm always trying to say something that's important, especially when it comes to hard culture. And I get that from the nineties, you know what I mean, From the eighties, from the Bay you know what I mean,

Same question for you, Shure.

But flip it around, like they have access to so much social media and all that is anything that you wish that y'all would have had, that you kind of image that they.

Have now, well, the tools, the tools are way better, you know, technology. It's a it's a give and take for me though, because what technology brought along was a way to reach the masses.

But then there was also a really.

A really fun aspect of not everybody knowing everything instantly. It was it actually to me, it gave songs a longer lifespan and it I don't know, it just I used to meet people by doing the show and jumping off stage and walking through your city and just meet people. I didn't have, you know, social media, I probably would have never did that shit. I'd have been like, I got five hundred thousand followers, Why the fuck I gotta go walk around.

Your city, you know what I mean?

So it just I like the personal shit, But at the same time everything is so one hundred times more. Of course, I would have loved the fucking in the nineties, I fucking made six platinum albums in a row. I couldn't get a fucking endorsement of nothing. They wouldn't actually hip hop artist to endorse snow for motherfuckers just sold six million albums in six years, and you wouldn't want them to endorse your product.

Product. And now you know, now that they know.

How influential hip hop is, if you just get a little spark, they're like, oh, you know, you want to this clothing line, you want this, and they understand the value of the popularity. But back then it was I mean, they were trying to stop us from doing tours. They're trying to stop us from any fucking thing we do. We pull up, it's like, those are the hip hoppers, the bad guys.

So I would love to be in the era of floating ship through this fucking digital these ones and zeros and just send my ship to London in a listening to m P three and fucking how are we sending a fucking song across the ocean in ten seconds?

The fuck is that you gave, you gave, you gave me, You gave me a hard drive about fifty thousand songs on the word fucker. Man, it's still listening to the motherfucker the nineties.

I would have had to give you like fucking twenty crazy hey, but it's lovely.

Man. The only thing with right now, the only thing I don't like is the way that.

The streets are entwined with the rap ship. Because the streets always hip hop. The streets was always the backing the banker of hip hop movements, but the street guys would be like this all legitimate thing, keep it legit, staying in a certain place. Now it's like Nigga the rapper himself would get off stage and shoot you, did you just.

Throw that like this?

Like crazy that that we was thug the fuck out rolling with me, any type of vibe you want to think about. But the ship had a certain level of it made sense. And I just think that if you got something so valuable as hip hop, we pull up in the room. This the nigga who gets all the money for the movement. He the last nigga that's gonna get in trouble. He the last nigga that's gonna get hurt. The movement is shielding him, like, Nigga, we gotta do some dirt, get him to the car.

That's that's the bag.

Why is the bag over here in the middle of the fucking fight, Like it ain't making no sense?

So I think the thing with that, because you're right, I think the problem with our generation is like they kind of start disrespecting the support. Right, so niggas starts feeling like day the reason so you able to move this way and move around the hood and have this influence because of us, But then you start making this money and start believing it's because of you. So now the people who was funding that is like, Nigga, you're really rapping about my life. I could do this too, you know.

What I mean?

So now they didn't put themself in front of the camera and made that same amount of money, And it's like, what I'm back you for now when I could do the same thing. And because of this, they made the world one big neighborhood. How he can't get to the people or it.

Says a billion dollar business and motherfuckers need to like fight somewhere else.

They are not.

They are not fighting on the courts, Max.

They're not fighting on the course no more.

It's a it's a bag. That's a bad.

Shout out to Uncle V too, man. Uncle VV came out and rocked with me for All Star Weekend. You know that's one of my favorite people in the world. We'll be on the fight black man. That motherfucker right there, Man, the mother fucking Peppovich. Man, I couldn't god that motherfucker. Man, that mother.

I love man. Shout out the man in the building eighties and nineties or today? Who got the best group? Is the best looking group to groupies?

That's the part you left. You would crazy Instagram because you.

Know you basically build the bitch today, build the whole perfect man.

When I was coming up, if the girl had a big ass, it was real. That was a big ass.

Yeah that was real.

There was no nothing but her grandmom and her mama.

That was beans and rice all over. Man, And yeah, I.

Feel so bad for the from my generation, for the kids who inherited that ass, who got to compete with fake ass.

That ship is that ship is like religious. Man is special. Man, That motherfucking that you could build one. That fact.

I've seen too many real ones that even I can't. I can't honor, Yeah, I can't.

But like I said, y'all paved the way. You see community, y'all paved the way they got to explore.

Now you know.

We're you ain't never had the nineties group got to be nineties I'm thinking nineties nineties?

What was the nineties groupie?

Natural beautiful? After they leave, they just be happy.

Ain't no no posting, no motherfucking up secret adortion?

Okay, okay, lies after the ship that happened, come on, give it changed?

Everything is getting fluid out?

Wasn't the thing that's back?

When that's back? When what happened in Vegas actually stayed in Vegas?

Yeah?

When when a T shirt meant something?

Expectations now are crazy? Expectations now are crazy.

You survived every era of hip hop to say, to be honest, what do you think was the golden age of hip hop?

Or if you would say it was a golden age.

Well, we know they have an actual golden era that's labeled late eighties and early nineties that's supposed to be the peerst form of hip hop when it was young in the commercial stages and everything was original.

Everybody was a one off man. All these erarors were.

Fun like that era is how I got in the gang, just being too short of my own lane. But the next one that came in with the bling bline, we all got money and sh was fun. I was looking at Atlanta and she was fun and fucking who got the most shit fun? And then you know, the Y two K pass and then the new Millennium came in and.

Shit started getting my space, my.

Spaced out, and you know, it was on the Bay. We was hypheed up and Little John and then was crunked up. It was it was, it was doing it, man, I was.

I was just about to ask you not to cut you off. Speak to you meeting Little John because a lot of people don't understand he was the first.

But I'm you know, I'm at this time. I'm an og brouh, I'm an og in the nineties. But they're like, what up o G you know what I'm saying, I've been there and fucking I'm coming on the West and this hyphee is brewing, like early two thousands hype.

He is brewing and fucking It's just a whole new energy for me.

Man.

I had, I had already been in pocket with Little John when the hyphe came along. Little John literally had did a show or something he did. He was in Oakland for something in the bay and he called me. He was like, man, I'm in the bay and they got the ship out here called Haife, Like, bro, we gotta do some of this ship.

Like he came back hyped up on the ship.

So prior you want to know the Little Johan story, Little John is uh.

And about what I don't know. The mid nineties.

He's an employee and so so deaf and he's over there producing songs. I think one of the ones I always members of is that my boot song somebody singing I don't.

Know boo I can't sing, so you.

Know, uh not the usher booze.

Baby Oh.

I think.

So so deaf, thank you so blue John producing him kind of beast for so so deaf. He worked for Jermain Dupree. You got an office over there and ship. But he's also a DJ around Atlanta and the niggas a pretty good damn DJ.

So I was a fan of Little John to DJ.

I always was at the fucking clubs and when he DJ, it was just different.

He started DJing.

And he's playing records but he's talking and then next thing you know, he got the crowd saying ship he he just it turned into a fucking concert by DJ. And then he put this record out.

Who You Get Crunk? Who You With? Who You With?

Just a bunch of chants to the flu getting look to the flock. And I pull up on him and I'm like, bro, you need to let me do a remix to that, like put some raps on it. And he's like, nah, nah, that song already came and win. He's like, let's make some new ship. So he put up to my studio one day and left me a song that ended up being a couldn't be a better player, and and.

He left the song. I wasn't there when he came.

He just left this fucking song tracked out on the on the machines he sat do don't know if he mailed him.

It was just there. So I put some raps on it, got it back to him. We liked it. We uh went to go shoot the video and ship.

The song blew up and then he's he's in a situation with an independent label in Atlanta, a label that was an associated mind I knew the god. I had just some business with him. He was cool, wasn't no, wasn't no. It wasn't no friction or nothing. But he said Little John owed him some money, and he just, you know, fucked Little John.

Little John was like he's shady, whatever the whatever.

It was the.

Dispute fucking so they was gonna fuck you for life. So I just stepped in and was like, bro, how much money is it. I've got some business going on with Little John. Okay, you know this this whatever broke him off, you know, some homie ship, and then fucking came to Little John.

I was like, you free to go.

And I could have signed Little John to my label, but I knew who he was. We had already did a couple of songs that blew the fuck up because of him. He went out there, oh yeah, yeah, get Little John was the kind of dude who had a network of the DJ record and he had been doing that for so so deaf, and he did that for his couple of singles that he had and shipped, as well as the song that he had with me.

So instead of me going are you under me?

Now?

Let's roll, I was.

Just like, bro, you know you're free to go, man. And all I asked for him return was beats. I was just I want beats. I knew the nigga had them beats, so for life. The nigga was just slide me hits like just for life. And then the greatest ship ever, he slid me shake that monkey which lasts forever. And the very next year he gave me blow the whistle and I'm like, you know, thank you, sir, And then.

He proceeded to make some of the best hyphe beats ever.

Like he did tell me what he didn't want to keep the snakes, yeh, he was, he was. He was doing it like I just want to help snap the ship,

You just kind of gotta have a little humble to it.

Man.

And when you recognize somebody with the game, you just give him a stepping stone, give him some more game, give him a chance, to give him opportunity, something.

Speaking to blow the whistle.

Uh.

Gilly brought that.

Back around and made the theme of the of the Philadelphia and they won the Super Bowl?

And what was that like? And did that really that ran the streams back up? Didn't it? I can only imagine.

Yeah, the first time I saw him, after you start doing it, I'm like, I'm like, what's up?

Bra, You're like in streams is up?

And you went out to his house and did some ship with him in the front yard with the neighbor and everything.

Then motherfucking snow one football Sunday playoffs.

You got to respect bro. Yeah.

I jumped on the flight and with the Philly I am not a Philadelphia Eagles.

Fan, but I love I love Gillian Wallow and you know, the.

City of Philly has shown me some love over the years. It was it was, it was given tape. They started off my first show in Philly. The niggas was throwing ship at me. I don't get ship thrown at me, a no show man. Yeah, that's how that's how we started, but then all right, we evolved and I love Philly.

There was a video that went viral from All Star of you doing blow the whistle at faster faster what you call it? Yeah, well ll Russell and splash, that's what it's called.

That splash. You got that video. It's the Steph party. Yeah, it was in that.

Term cracked it.

At that day's timbo. He was telling her to shake it faster.

Uh so they want to catch step saying Stephanie saying under his breath.

Steph with the beard man.

Remember remember Steph with the little boy step slick face.

That's what jacks when Jack left the team because he didn't believe in him.

Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, you ain't believing Steph.

There was a whole bunch of people that's mad about the my taste ship was mad.

Bro. Just you gotta think when.

I did you watch my tape? Like he was gone, but.

Left, Al left, Beani enough, j redche left, everybody was gone with the fucking I'm the only old nigga here.

I don't need to be here with all these He needed to get out of here. He step didn't take a person.

Steph did have a lot of ankle injuries early too.

Yeah, he got fifty five ft on the rookie here, Jenny's.

A whole lot of people said, man, you traded my tape for the nigga with the weak ankles.

For a lot of that, a lot of that. He was like a little boy.

Man.

They didn't know. They didn't know. If I would have known, ain't nobody do.

If I would have known, I told.

Me, I would have known he was going end up like that, motherfucker. I would have stayed mans right there.

I should shout out to stock X, one of our big partners. Short, you've been through so many eras. Give me one sneaker from the eighties in the nineties that was a must half.

Oh you funny man. You know what, I'm the craziest nigga on earth. I buy.

I be buying shoes like I'm warning Vans right now. I be buying shoes that niggas're walking. Oh, nigga, you got the I'm like, I don't even know.

I just like the color. So you're not even a sneaker head like that. But I buy the best ship.

I have, like some collector ship, and wear their motherfuckers to coach Chilla or something man and fuck them up.

Like I don't. My mind ain't focused on the ship.

So you know, I spend you know, a crazy amount on a pair of shoes, but then I won't respect them. So would on the cover of Quarterias, I was gonna say, that's probably the only shoe.

I can name.

Fucking Quartia is only when I memorize the name and Jordan's only I don't know to Jordan's numbers.

You just know I don't know me either.

Didn't right, you didn't rock the Marrimax.

I don't know, man, It's like asking me what was every the name of every girl I had sex?

Really, he's really not.

Said, remember I remember today I wore ned the you know.

So sports shift the sports a little bit obviously. Bron and Steph and and k D and hand full of greats. This will what I want, Steph. If Steph ends up with more rings than Bron, where does that put Steph in the hierarchy of the game. Just go, I know you're a huge, but we're Bron fans.

If James uh So as president of the Lebron James Finn Club, no one can ever be greater than mister James period, never any error, No one can ever do it. The man went to nine straight finals. We're talking about somebody that can play every position. We're talking about somebody that's elevated every team he went to. We're talking about somebody that changed the culture of the NBA as far as picking where you want to land. We're talking about

But but, but, but but what about the player who he said if he gets more rings and he changed the fucking game, like he changed the game?

Definitely question So technically this is and I don't disagree with Bron's greatness, but on Bron's watch, someone got more rings than he did.

Man changed the game. That's hypothetical.

A couple of people.

Well, look at what he was up against, what he had to deal with k D and the Warriors for two years.

But he got to of his rings playing with Boshtond.

Yeah, but they had to they had to round up for the Celtics. Celtics had a lot.

The Warriors got to the words got to he got to.

But but it wasn't like Bron went and got another top three players. I'm saying when he went to Cleveland were leaving Miami out of this.

Okay, I think.

Stephen right now, yes, but has drafted there.

It wasn't like the top five power four before he went there and sacrificed this whole game.

What y'all got against Lebron?

Because I know you from the Bay and you're a Lebron fan. That's why I asked the question.

I think, to me, Steph Curry has changed the game. If you get another ring to me, no, to a logical theory, yes, but I would say right.

Now, man, personal opinion.

Man as ambassadors of the game and accolades in their careers, I put them brothers, even Steven. They have done so much for basketball just because they fly the straight eraw of not tainting the brand as so many players be our sales.

I'm a player. I'm not a basketball player, but I'm a player be our sales. You know what I'm saying.

So I just think, man, I don't think either one has surpassed the other one at this point, So another ring, I don't think another ring would even make it when it when it's when it's said and done. Because of how long they played and what they did all the way through their entire careers, they still gonna it's gonna be the Lebron Steph ra for It's not gonna be the Jordan era or the or the Magic era.

It's gonna they both will have to share that forever, and.

They both like change the game. Like I'm saying, Steph made the pointer almost just as exciting as a dunk as a at this point change the game for ever. So I'm just the biggest Lebron fan because that was always my favorite player growing up, and he rocked with my music. So I'm always being Lebia's James.

Yeah, I don't think Steph can pass uh Lebron on my list. I think Lebron's gonna always be number three, regardless if Steph would another championship, just at the career Lebron.

You got before Lebron.

Come on, man, don't play me. It's only two people.

I'm just asking a serious question.

Being in MJ, like you put Mike Belfure Lebron.

Yeah, because he's a better basketball.

Player than Lebron.

Gosh, here we go with a better basketball player.

Lebron, had Broun had a better career.

He has the best career in everybody talking about on the court playing basketball. It ain't two people better than Lebron in.

The Jordan in any era just gonna be the same thing.

Jordan would have been nice in this era. But would it would it look like that I looked in the nineties.

Yeah, they say, they say my average fifty.

Now they couldn't play.

No, I've seen I've seen somebody send me a clipped This more than of a player Jordan Duncan on Barkley with something. Somebody passed them a base one drop step. Draymond would have never let that happen. Draymond would never Draymond would never let that.

You would have never left that ain't.

Nothing that bill Rick Mahorn, they was doing the same thing that the worst they busting his lip.

They wouldn't let that happen.

Man, Man, I don't think so, I ain't going nowhere.

We just had this to the point where.

They Moon would have got dunked on too.

So we round in this interview. Man, we obviously appreciate the time. Freaky tails out right now ya? How excited are you just about this again? I heard you talking before You're taking acting? You're taking this shit serious? How exciting is this kind of this trans not necessarily a transition because you're still doing music, but being able to step into into Hollywood and be an actor as well.

Not putting yourself in the box.

That Yeah, Like I said, man, it's a blessing. You grew up as a kid watching the entertainment space and just want to be a part of it, you know what I mean. I feel like for so many years in the beginning, I was just happy to be here, and then it was like, Okay, now it's time to lock in and really focus on the things I want to do. So, you know, I went through a situation with my label kind of was pigeonheled on trying to get music out, and at that time I needed something

Yeah you tell me about a big one.

I was like, Yo, yeah, yeah, we work it, We work it. We on new way.

Man gratulations short. You collabed with a lot of legends in this space. Do you have one that kind of stands out? On one or two that stand out? Is just the experience overall was different because you I mean, although it was you collab with people back when everyone used to get in the studio together and do it, does anyone stand out?

I mean, yeah, man, I've been I've been in the hot water with the fucking like the best of the best in that studio.

Like you said, we're in the same session and you got to keep up.

And it's fucking jay Z, It's Notorious Big, it's Tupac, fucking Snoop Doggy Dog and Scarface and eat Fody and just you know, pimp.

See like niggas are get in the studio and give you a problem like you like you.

They stretch you out because when they do their vocals, it's like, fuck, like what are you gonna do?

You know?

What I mean, like, for real, man, it should be serious bro.

So, like I said, I always refer to game spitting because a lot of these motherfuckers are dance circles around you rapping and they rap styles and ship and the cadence and ship and the rhythm of it.

And I just I just come in there like real slow, like yeah, bitch, that's what I thought. Niggas be all complicated.

I'm like all right, so you know, I just I just feel like my favorite artist always work with with E forty. That's why we have so many fucking songs together. But I love being in the studio with guys like pimps because these niggas are also musicians.

We make beats. Who would do the hook?

And you know, like you're making a song and you just sitting there starting to write a verse and see already got the hook in some you know, you know niggas, you know, a pimpcy for like his rapping and ship.

But listen to how many UGK songs this.

Nigga is singing, singing, kep in the studio really singing and.

Got a good voice.

He got a real voice, like the corner all the time.

So it was just fun like what fucker's come in?

Uh?

Spark the weed up. Eric Simmon is another one. Hit the beat, the beat he made the beat.

He just when he make a beat, he just hit the drummer scenes so fast and the ship like you want to keep wanting them motherfuckers really fast. And then he going to booth and just spit at sixteen like nigga, what the fuck did you put that together? And they just they just had that talent. Man sho, I ain't got no rhymes on deck right now.

There's nothing. If you said spit had nothing. Where's the solo as y'all one?

Yeah, we need one.

That's your solo right there.

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That's what we got. That's what we got to look forward to. Huh Wig Hitters.

First thing to come to mind all time Warriors starting five y'all.

Can do it together. Oh, Steph was team. You're putting together the five dudes in any era.

Stephan show.

My first one will be Mitch Richmond rich and that's that's that's that's the real Michael Jordan's.

I'm going on my nigga stack. Yeah, I'm going my niggas. We got Steph mitche you pick water Whick. One more Baron Davison, Davis small.

You better get somebody tall, and I'm gonna gomall ball anyway.

About to say the Warriors changed the game. Bro with the shooters man.

Talking about Draymond Green.

Yes, sir, that's Draymond. That's one through ten. Yeah, everybody in the building.

One album, y'all cauld listen to with no Skips short start with.

You album with no skips.

Anything?

Ice Cube, mate, I run all. Ice Cube was front the back for me.

I always say fifty cent. Get Richard Dutch silent.

That's another good Yeah.

Starting to send a childhood crush Kyle the Prey, Oh wow, just bad.

Shortened ship. Pam Grid motherfucking.

Childhood Pam Grid as a little boy going to the movies. You got to see Pam Gris titties man a little bit boy.

So yeah, that would be.

That would be my first guy to see him. Guilty pleasure that you can talk about.

I plead the fifth guilty pleasure.

Man.

Free ship, free ship. I walk in places with a pocket full of money. They keep giving me free ship, kicking aprecip.

Appreciate, appreciate it. Man, get out of here. Last question, go ahead.

If you guys can see one guest on our show, who would it be? But you have to help us get your answer on the show.

I'm gonna say the same thing I said last time.

Lebron you're the president of the fan.

They recently they recently I talked to Math.

They're outside to a little bit.

They're going to upgrade me to Bronnie's fan club.

Yeah, we'll take him to.

I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna talk to the team and I get back.

Hey, who should y'all get on this show?

Man?

Let me think, man, somebody good for all the smoke? I don't know somebody that's a super smoker. Man like who who we.

Just smoked with all of them? We haven't had Kenny Rogers. That would be he's a real good conversation man, like yeah, yeah, that.

Be legend in the game, well that's a rap man. We appreciate you guys. Freaky Tails out now go check it out. And obviously a lot of other stuff coming down the pipeline with both these dudes, but man.

Thank you guys for your time. We appreciate you.

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