Seth Curry | Ep 118 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball

I was over here playing Santa Claus until the last minute. I was about the Bank of Barnes is closed for months. Yeah, man, I'm me too, bro. Man. We got Seth Curry on the show today. Man, we appreciate you stepping on and taking time out of your busy day, especially during the holidays. Man, how's everything going. It's all good man. You're having me on man, Yeah, I'm talking about the holidays. Man. I got like I said, I got two kids now, so I was my first one with my daughters three, so

you know a little bit about it. Put some toys together, yes, yeah, so yeah, you just had another son right in September. What's it like to finally get that? Boy? I was dope, it's dope. I one on one for sure, for sure, I got another shooter. I'm done. Yeah, hopefully moving. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Hold on, man for you start. Let me ask you questions. We're talking about all of us being Santa Clause and being broke after the holidays. Do you do? Do you do? You?

And stuff? Trying to one up each other gifts? No, not even more, not even more? When when don't we see each other that much? Uh? I mean it's hard. We're getting gifts with each other. It's hard for to get something for stuff. You know, you gotta be creative with it. His his his budget a little bit bigger than mine. So I'm winning. I'm winning on that on

that side. Uh yeah, you gotta stay creative. I feel that January seven, nearly a year ago, game versus the Nets, you tested positive after spending the first quarter of the bench replaced in isolation at Barclays in the in in response to that, you guys have to quarantine this all all this quarantine and COVID is not new but fairly new. How has that kind of affected you personally? Being obviously you know a family man, father first and husband first

and foremost. But then also you know, attending to your job. It's tough. It's tough. It's a balance. I mean, you gotta job do. You gotta go out there and do your job, provide for your family, played the game that you love. But at the same time, you gotta try to be careful take care of your family. And you know that's what you sign up for if you if you sign up to play in the league this year, you sign up for a little bit of risk going out there and possibly get getting the virus bringing it

back home. But hopefully everybody year around is doing that part and the many good party if you get it right now. Nobody getting seriously sick around the league right now. So um, that's that's the positive part of it, outside of kind of having a somewhat stead of yourself off the quarters, anything else that you do different from your day to day during the season that you didn't do since we've been in product and since we've been since we've had to spend it. Last year it was crazy,

you can't really get a hotel. But this year, um, kind of getting back to the normal, normal routine and stuff you like to do on the role. Me personally, I'm in the hotel. I go out to eat with a few people every once in a while on a row. Um, so my routine don't change too much. It's more the guy that I like to get out in the streets a little bit more that back a little bit. Jack, you might have been in trouble bro Yeah, I would.

I wouldn't have made it. I wouldn't have made it. Man. Yeah, since it's a struggle for them, I would have fall. I would have felt right in that category. On November, he was traded to Feeling Exchange with Josh Rishton and the draft rights to Tyler Bait from the Maps. How do you feel about the trade? Initially I thought it was a mistake initially uh on the mask pot but um. But me personally, I mean I was I didn't know what I was getting into. As far as the role

I would have in Philly. I knew they needed shooting and spread up for for Joe and and being and do what I do. But I mean a role it was kind of blessing in the skies. It was. It was a starting role for me, somebody I didn't do consistently over my career, So I got the chance, like I got a chance to start. They tend to play with the ball in my head a little bit more play, a little bit more of a playmaker on top of spreading the four knocking down shots. So I had my

best season last year and it's carried over this year. So, like I said, it was a great opportunity for me building team chemistry. How is it business? For a lot going on over there? You know Doc Rills is a great coach, somebody me in mad respect. How how's it been this year with everything going on? Building the chemistry with you guy, it's been solid. It's outside of being everybody came back. I was on the team last year for the most part, so we know we know each other.

Chemistry been solid. Ben had been around the team too much, so it's not like he's coming in out of practice, in and out again games messing up the chemistry. We kind of know who we got. Obviously were missing a big piece from last year, but we know who we got and we're trying to make it work um with the with the talent we have, and it's just up and down season. Were obviously guys are out the line with COVID. That's the biggest thing in chemistry wise, right,

question real quick before you go on. Um, I kind of find like, obviously, being former players, I kind of think I know the answer. But when all that ben ship was going on at the beginning of the season, was that it kind of feels like that you guys will probably be a lot you guys are still locked in the locker room. It was just really outside noise doing all the talking or was it there a little bit of rumbling inside the locker room as well? It

was all in the locker room. One time we talked about it was obviously Doctor addressed it early in the season, um first day of training camp in and then one time we talked about when the media come in that feeling media that's all they want to talk about is is drama when we get in front of them, obviously doing their jobs. But when we step on the floor, like I said, we knew who we had in the locker room. We knew it was gonna show up the play every day and we're trying to make it work.

So um, we honestly, like I said, we tried. We kind of cheated, Like a long term injury injury we knew, Ben, we're gonna be there for the for the started season. You gotta you gotta adjust. We're smart. You played alongside with probably the best big best big man in the game right now, you know safe him. Still get props to Yokich as well. But I love one thing I love about Joel's I love him his personality. Uh you know, so I can tell he's somebody that I can be around.

Obviously he came out at one time with Jimmy Butland I was able to go out to eat with him, a good a chance to hang around him. But how is it playing with somebody that's so talented at that size, but also somebody that's a real person off the court. It's great, it's great. I mean on the court we were kind of like a matchman of having our two games, um, just the way we fit each other. But he talented as can be at his size, moving his feet, can shoot the ball, handle the ball, pass, you can do

all that. So on the court is great, but he's he getting better as a as a leader in the locker room. Um, Doc, that's one way Doc really challenging this year to to be more a little bit more vocal be more positive every day with the guys because you kind of go. You're gonna go with your best player, goes. I mean, if he's bringing the energy every day and spreading it to the other guys, we're gonna be a much better team. I mean it's more than just coming

in and getting twenty five and ten every day. You gotta bring the energy to to to make your teammates better than he's doing that this year. Taking it back to Charlotte, North Carolina, what was it like growing up in your home? Obviously growing up in a basketball family? Your dad did this thing? Big bros, Big bro? What was it like? Uh for you growing up? Um? Was basketball always something you knew you wanted to do? Because you have two people? How are you doing it? Or

did you know? What did you start off doing? I mean we started all they put it, dude. Our parents wanted to play all types of sports growing up. They wanted to play and everything. I played a lot of football and baseball with basketball growing up, just trying to find out what I love to do. But obviously it was it was basketball because we were able to follow my dad around as much as we could when we

don't have school. He was taking us to the games, taking us to practices, and I think that that allowed us to find that love of the game, and we just learned so much just just seeping through our brains without even knowing, and just being around and being guys every day. So um, that's that's kind of how we developed our competitiveness, I love for the game, and honestly

our skill set with from that. We were always in the gym, messing around, trick shots, shooting from all over the floor, and you can see that in the way we play, especially Steff with some of some of the stuff he does. Just his creativeness. I think that came from being in the gym from I don't even know, from an early age growing up. I mean you mentioned it, and obviously Jack and I were both fathers in the league, and and my last four years my twins got to

travel around with me. Um, particularly that seventeen championship team with your brother. You couldn't tell the twins they weren't a part of the Warriors. They were trying to take steps trophy and Katie's MVP trophy on the stage and hold that ship up with what they got rings they would should be quiet, man, They got rings, so yeah,

they're definitely official. But as at a young age, what are some of the things you remember about being around some of the players that you saw at such a young age, Because, like I said, I think my kids kind of take it for granted because they were around Kobe, Steph KD, Chris, Paul Blake. You know, what were some of the guys you remember being around at the young ages that you were coming in off? Yeah, you say bringing you you bring your kids around as much as possible.

That's what I mean. People ask me, how you what I should do with my kids, uh growing up? I say, bring them around as much as possible. Yeah, Like so I love to see your kids in the gym, even back then, seeing him on the court, running around, shooting

the ball, just having fun. Um, because I remember those experiences being around muggy balls, chasing a great Evince Carter in Toronto when they were teammates with my pops and we were just we were jumping and shooting games, doing a lot of crazy stuff we probably shouldn't have been

doing at that age, messing up practices. But uh, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's like I said, I think back now, it's it's really how we developed our game and our skill set and and just like said, we didn't even know what we were doing back then, but it's it's it's a big part of who we are, right. You mentioned you guys played a bunch of different sports growing up. What was it like competing with your brother day and day out? Was it's just straight competition? Was

there fights? What did you beat him in? We said were like two and a half years apart. So I was always close enough to where I felt like I could beat him. I feel like I was better than him, but I was I was never really there. So, um, that competitiveness was in any and everything growing up, it was it was heated. We were fighting. Mom had to come out of the backyard break up a lot of fights. Um. And when we went off to college and kind of

it kind of died down. We became much better friends when we kind of got out of the household together because we weren't competing as much. And um, when is heated. But those battles and those things are really the reason why I meant where I met today because I kind of got advantage of having an older brother who was always pushing me, and somebody always felt like I was close enough to to get to his level, and I

was always chasing him. Let's do mid Liberty, you let all freshmans nationally and the average points per game and broke the Big South Conference single season score record as a freshman. What do you remember about that? What was what made you decide to go to Liberty? Honestly, I wouldn't recruited heavily. I had probably two or three UM scholarship offers coming out of high school. I went to Liberty just because I had a great relationship with that

coach at the time, Richie McKay. He he recruited me hard from from the jump. Um, I knew I was gonna come in and and have an opportunity to play. And that's one of the biggest things my pops in my high school coach is at telling me, go somewhere where you gonna have opportunity to come in and play, not somewhere you're gonna go in and sit on the bench for a couple of years and maybe get a chance to play later on. So, um, my guy didn't got to learn, make some mistakes and and got off to

a quick start. My freshman year, you wrote number thirty and liberty, the same number your dad and your older brother war in their careers. You choose thirty like your father said, Yeah, your brother, that's why you got it. Yeah, you already know that's that's the family number. Growing up. Want to want to be like my pops. And I mean when I got the chance to get it in college and even when I get when I came in the NBA, I'm gonna wear thirties as much as possible.

So is it is it a story your dad got behind the number? Why he chose it the same reason why y'all choose y'all chose I don't even know. I think he told him it's a story once while he chose thirty when nothing nothing memorable and nothing like that. So I can yeah, yeah, can you can? Your dad still hold his own in the shooting contest with y'all, no question, you can shoot it. You already know he could shoot it. He don't want to move around a lot um. He definitely gonna play us one on one

and nothing like that. I think when Steph beat him, I think he was in high school. Step beat him one on one. That was the last time he played either of us in one on one. So it's just horse games, shooting competitions, and and that that shooting touch is gonna go away. You don't matter. He got he got a chance in the horse. He got a chance of horse I know that. Yeah. And he's gonna talk to you. He's gonna talk like those guys back in the day when he when he was playing. Their trash

talk is on a different level. So he's gonna he's gonna try to get in your head. And that's another element you gotta deal with. Yeah, that o G slick talk. Yes, sir yea. So transferred to Duke for the rules. You had to sit out the two thousand nine ten season. What was it like knowing that, Okay, you did your thing at Liberty, You're getting a chance to go to Duke. What was that preparation like during that down year for you?

That was a huge year for him because I got to test myself against the best team in the nation that year where they wanted won the championship that year, the National Championship, guys like Knowling Smith, John Shire Um. I was competing with them every day in practice, trying to get them ready for the games. But I mean Coach K, that's what he was telling me that these practices, these scrimmages of your are your game situation. So I

was I was testing myself. I was getting ready, getting stronger, and it kind of set set me out for my my cost career. What's it like playing for Coach K. Obviously you know you hear a lot of different stories. But what sets him apart um from other coaches obviously his his petty agree and um, just to respect level that everybody has for him once they step on that campus. It is great. So you're gonna listen to everything he says, and uh, he's gonna push you. I mean every year

he's bringing in blue Chips, five star cruise. He ain't gonna coach everyone on the same push him to the limits. You gotta standard, you gotta live up to when you put on that dude jersey. And it's about winning at the end of the day. So, um, if you're in his trust, this that that says a lot. And and unfortunately was able to do that while I was there. And I mean I learned I think back on stuff in and and lessons that he taught us. A practice

in games that I still live about to to this day. Absolutely. You mentioned john Shire, Nolan Smith, your red shirt year. The next year Kyrie comes in, you get to work with him. Unfortunately he gets hurt, but that opens an opportunity for you to be a starter. What was it like in his brief time, because like I said, I know he was hurt, but getting a chance to work and go against Kyrie and having him as a teammate,

he was a monster from day one. I mean, like he stepped on campus, it was like Kari's he's nice, He's gonna be a number one pick. We we you know, he had those those preseasons, uh, like scrimmages and pickup games, and from the first pick up game, I was like, yeah, yeah he number one pick. He got a different Yeah, he got different level from from from everybody else that was there at the time. So when we had a squad and he and he took it over from the jump outs. So he got hurt and we still we

still he went down. We still want the um they C championship that year. So that's kind of talent the team we had and being like I said, practice against those guys UM at that time was was huge for everybody's confidence. Who was some of the guys on that team that went on too the league with you? We were stacked. We had a squad, so it was no one Smith you drafted, Uh, Kyle Singler, Ryan Kelly Mason,

and Miles Plumbly, Andre Dawkins. I mean we had a legit seven eight guys who are who passed some time in the NBA on that team. So um all someone that Austin came to next year. Uh yeah, so they were there were in and out going into NBA draft and being undrafted. I was drafted the second second to the last pick in the draft, so that you know,

I know what it feels like to be overlooked. But at the same time, you knew what you had to do, being that you had a father, would experience you know what I mean that that can that can help you in that time. What was your what was your thought process when you didn't get drafted. I mean I had an injury said that was a big part of not getting drafted and not um having a chance to compete

with guys doing the pre draft process. Had surgery rafting my senior season, so I was rehabbing stuff, but I knew if if I got healthy, I knew I had the talent in this and the skill level to to play in the NBA. Obviously working with Steph in the summer working on my game, I knew, I like, I'm I'm working with Steff. I know I'm working with on his drills. I'm I'm compete with him and shooting games. I'm like if I'm I'm close to him that I know, it's a lot of guys in the league that that

can't mess with me. So at that confidence level was was it was Scott high as far as that was just matter getting the opportunity to so I can I can play at that level. Yeah, what's your friends like, you got to the D League? What was that experience? Like League LEA. Now, yeah, it was a D League at that time, but we were really in the D League, like playing in Santa Cruer, playing the here. You gotta love the game to play it out there. I've seen a lot of guys with talent that that quick, because

I mean, it's it's a tough role. But yeah, I mean I just just working on my game. It was a big experience because I got to put the ball in my hands, got to learn the NBA system, play with the NBA three point line. Um, learn my game. It's completely different than college. Still just the pick and rolls, the sets. Um, he said, a little bit of adjustment episode.

But instead of like most guys who get drafted second round, even some guys in the first round, instead of sitting the bench and not playing, Um, I got to get those game reps, work on my game. And that's when I really knew I could. I could play the NBA

level if I really got an opportunity too. And it's a it's a roller coaster, you know, going from the G League to the NBA, you know what I mean, getting the opportunity and not really get a chance to play because people don't know your game, like all that

could be frustrated. Was it easier for you to be able to deal with all that and having that bumpy road knowing that you had people with experience behind you to kind of, you know what, they give you advice where you want to panic, if somebody else, to have somebody in there. You. Yeah, it's it's tough. You I mean, y'all know it's it's tough. And um, when you nobody, no teams really invested. Then you come up there, you might not play, get sent back down. Um, but yeah,

my dad, my pops one one big thing. My Pops came to a game and here he watched me play, and he sat me down out there afterwards, and he really put a battery in my back as far as saying, like, you can you can play at the at the NBA level. You gotta get the opportunity, you know what I'm saying That He honest, dude, He's gonna be honest. If if he ain't see it in he would have been like, hey, just go over see you can make some good money, do your thing, you know what I'm saying. But he was.

He really kept on hunting with me. It was like, if you get out tunity, you can play at the league. And I mean that was the toughest part of just waiting my turn. Like like I said, I'm not drafting. Nobody invested a draft picked in me, money and me, and there's no reason for anybody to give me an opportunity to play at the NBA. Just like I said, I just had to be patient weight and finally got the opportunity. That's what people don't understand is like Once

you get to that level, there's so many politics. Whether you're you know, a late second round pick like myself and Jack are not drafted yourself. They're invested in other people, so they're going to give them motherfucker's every single chance they have to succeed. So if you're late second round or not even drafted, there's a lot of guys to get washed out the league just not even getting a chance, because a lot of people can play, but just don't

get that chance. Right business, these fund officers, they got jobs tied into guys they drafted. Um, so even if you you out playing them and you can help the team win, it's like if this, if this guy drafted first round, don't pan out, you will make them with bad exactly exactly straight up talk about it. Kind of feel like your first real shot was with the King's your first obviously first guaranteed contract. What was it like, finally really getting that Okay, I'm getting some real burn.

Now I'm getting to show my skill set. What was that experience like for you? But that was big? That

was huge. Uh, Like I said, I gotta guarantee contract out there, so I knew I would eventually get a chance to play and out there with me to being being a guy being around Buggie at the time, Rudy Gay is trying to trying to fit in, trying to find my role and and yeah, I think we kind of worked in my favorite as far as we were out of the playoffs later in the season, guys were sitting down to the vets and they threw the young guys out there for like a ten fifteen game stress

where we were getting to play, and I had a I had a great stress and really kind of solidifying myself as far as being able to be assistant player. So um, I mean those those in the games, in the game, in the season games, I should say, uh, I can make a great guy's career to absolutely absolutely, I want to take a step back. You got the chance to play with Prime, Boogie and Prime and Bed. Yeah, who are you taking And that's a tough question if

you're playing with right now? But Boogie was a cold Yeah, Boogie, he was a monster. Well he was a monster. They real similar. They both can handle the ball. Um. I think Buggie played a little bit more on the perimeter, taking off the dribble a little bit more than than Joel does, but he can do it. They both go on the offensive. Man, I think Joe a little bit more of dominant defensively as far as just holding down the paint um and just just really solidifying the whole defense.

So I give Joe the edge right there. Two of the bigger shooting bigs I think we've ever seen. I was just telling Jack before you came up, we were doing our other show, like and Beat is doing it. It's crazy because I said, I haven't seen no big do it since Boogie. But taking dudes off the perimeter, off the dribble, going into step backs and shot faces and all this ship like with guards guarden, Like this dude is like over seven feet tall, like doing this

ship with just that one's foot lean back. I'm like, yeo, this big one's cold, man, especially you got all that you gotta you kind of gotta you gotta add that now because he begetting beat up and in the paint and it's harder scoring and no matter how good you are, they let all that physic out to go down. So if you really want to have impact every night, you gotta be able to step out and make some jump

shots every once in awhile else. But actually I'm glad they started going back to that because for a minute there was too many motherfucker. Well, what are your thoughts on that, because obviously it's changed a little bit this year about the rest not calling as many fouls. Are you thinking guys are just out there hacking or is it kind of a steady balance. What are your thoughts on it? Because I felt like for a while it was too many whistles. Now they're not as many whistles.

Do you think they need to meet somewhere in the middle you kind of like where it's at right now. I like it. I like it, but I mean it's kind of it kind of got out of hand where they weren't calling anything, they weren't projecting jump shooters and getting hit on a getting hit on the risk a little bit. So the rest they kind of change the rules, and the rest kind of ran with as far we're gonna let any any and everything going defense. So that's why you saw some of those those scores being lowest,

shooting percentage dropping. But I mean, like I said, with anything, they're gonna they're gonna adjust, They're gonna hear feedback from the players and the coaches and they try to get it better. It so, uh you see James, James free throws starting to go back up a little bit. Um guys, guys kind of getting back to themselves. Dames getting back to himself. So it's just adjusting to the whistle. Yeah, as a shooter yourself. The ball chains this year, did

that make any difference for any effect on you? Going from obviously Spaulding for so many years now it's Wilson. I don't think it affected me, but it's it's different for sure. I mean, uh, it feels a little different leather, a little different, reacts on the rim differently. But I mean I was able to work with it all summer, kind of got used to it, So I don't think it affected my my game, on my on my shot

too much. Eighteen you played with Dallas. I thought you were a great fifth there we actually really you thought Dallas made a mistake. What was your biggest takeaway from getting a chance to play in Dallas. I love Dallas. I love Dallas of the love the city, the organization they I mean playing for Rick Carlile, great office of mine, really knows the game. So he put me in a

and he likes to play with with his system. He not scared a throw two guards out there that can that can may play two smaller guards he played with like he played with J. Kidd and and J. J. Berey a lot. It was me and J. J. Berey a lot, Me and Darren Williams a lot of a lot of smaller guards out there who who were dynamics. So he put me in good positions, really gave me an opportunity to to make some plays and show what I could do too. And yeahl in my game to

another level. So uh, I mean I love Dallas. That's why I still live in the off season. So, um, it's huge for my career. After the season, you go to the Trailblazers, what was it like, you know, speaking to two guards playing in I mean they had you you guys, throw you guys in. There's three guards sometimes. What was it like playing alongside c J and Dane in Portland? That was probably the best year, most funny year in my career. We obviously made to the to

the Western Conference finals. Um, but that team, that team was so locked in. We have veterans, we had young guys who were good. We had I mean, we had from top to bottom, we had a really underrated roster. So uh, just being about to compliment Damon c j Um, that's how you learned from them and ask some stuff that they do to my game. It's huge for me, And I mean I culminated and everybody knew that roles in that team and all culminate on that. That playoff

run that we had obviously ran into the Warriors. Who who got us about it there? But I mean that was that was That was a great season. I think a lot of people to understand how good. Obviously I really liked your team, but you know, there was a good three year stretch where Portland was one of the better teams in the league, but they kept running into the Warriors, you know what I mean, they had a hell of a team, and I think they've kind of

digressed since then. But Portland, I mean, particularly that year, you guys were loaded. Like you said, I think it was definitely under undervaluated team because you guys had depth as well. I like the coach. You guys played hard and it's funny you said everyone knew their role. You guys are everyone played their role to a team. So what was it like actually running into your brother in the playoffs with your mom and dad in the stands. One has one jersey, one has the other. What was

it like? I mean, thinking of all the battles and the fights as youngsters and now you guys both have a chance to go to the finals. What was it like playing against your brother that kind of opportunity? I mean, I was, it was. That was fun, man, I was. I was. Seriously I always remember because I mean, we're one of the biggest stage, Western Conference finals, playing against my brother, playing against the best team to leave for the past few years, um, and just going at it competing.

We're matching up against each other and guarding each other's I mean, stuff you dream about, and it's it's always weird when we play stuff in them because I mean, for eighty two games out the year, I want him to play well. I want to I want to see them win. When we strapped him up and play against each other, it's the opposite. I'm going out there trying to trying to shut them down. I want to see them lose. Be competing it gets nasty, so um, it's

a weird dynamic. Obviously, we don't want to make this a stuff interview, but you know, your brother has just made some you know, amazing historical accomplishments. Um, so we definitely want to touch on that. What was it like, what was your kinc something to your fondest memories growing up in battling. Obviously it just got a chance of comb and hopefully it'll reach you guys to get a chance to see each other on the biggest stage one day. But growing up kind of the little brother with you know,

Steph and then your dad being who he was. What were some of the most inspirational or kind of funny things that you guys used to get into or do I mean any and everything or any any brother to any siblings who were close in age. I mean we were tied to the hip, following my pops around as much as possible and really find anything to compete at anything to have some fun with waste time, get you

know what I'm saying. So uh, I mean like say he brought out the record or whatever, I feel like he deserves it, and me saying the work he put in over time, the way he changed the game, the way he pushed the envelope. As far as people complaining about maybe we shoot too many threes? Is he doing he taking crazy shots? But he I mean, you stick to it. He he that's who he's always being, honestly, from from from middle school to high school whatever, that's

he always played the game the same way. So that's a record that he deserves to have. And I think that's why, um, everybody made it such a big deal all week, you know what I'm saying, Like last last time when Ray wrote the record, I mean I remember, I remember hearing about it, but I don't think it's this big a deal. I'm like, every time every time I tell on TV, I see is he breaking the record of the day, I'm like, it ain't the all

times going record. This is it's a big deal because of who he is, and it's it's the guy, Like he's the guy who should have this record. Yeah yeah, What was it like? You know, we've spoke on your dad, we spoke on your brother. What was it like kind of getting out of both their shadows and being recognized as not step brother no more, but actually recognized as your own man because you're out there actually putting that work, that that that that earned you the respect you deserve.

Uh yeah, it feels good to people look at me who I am, looking at my my individual game and what I've what I've accomplished over my career. Just kind of get that recognition feel good. But I mean, for me, I I'll never pay attention to it, even if i'm if I'm now always look to step brother or Dell's son, no matter what it is. I'm confident in my own skin and the stuff that kind of built for that stuff. Both of us had to deal with a whole lot growing up in Charlotte, being the son of an NBA

player who played that for ten years. It's like, if you don't got tough skin and and able to deal with it, you ain't gonna You ain't gonna make It's gonna be a hard life. So kind of build for the for the scrutiny, the eyes, and it's just part of it. I'm like I said, I'm comfortable with my skin. I know who I am as a player. Um first and foremost married to Kellie Rivers, doc's daughter. What is that like playing for your your wife's dad in the n B A T tell me how is that brow?

That's cool? Man? It's cool, doctor, doctor, A solid dude, man as cool as they come. You know what I'm saying. When I when I got traded there, CALLI was probably the maddest one. She didn't want she didn't want to, not want the deal to go down. She's not when we playing for Pops. You know what I'm saying. Um, But it happened, and I mean it's been a smooth selling pretty much. Doctor. I mean, like I said, you know who's the quecomber we're gonna coach with the same

way listen to feedback. It's probably easy on doctors. He had the coaches his own son, so his ractional son. So it wasn't apart from yeah, that we was on that team where he got we signed him, uh New Orleans and let him go and we assigned him and coming to l A of all places too. And it's just like and he took a lot because he you know, he gave awesome the deal and everything. So I couldn't

imagine that pressure of having to coach your son. So probably you guys Dad had like he said, it's a lot easier than have him having actually coach his son. Mm hmm, yeah, you ain't worried about it, right, What other habits. You got what your what a day off looked like for you besides daddy duty, Yeah, daddy duty. Now I'm I'm low key. They come and I'm chilling watching TV shows, playing playing more golf, try and keep up, you know what I'm saying, getting better and better at golf.

Change the diapers a little bit. I changed a few of them. Maybe put me to work a little bit. Uh that's something I gotta, I gotta do. But uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm laying a little keeping keeping it at the crib and locking on the TV shows. Question real quick. Obviously, being a father of young kids, I had to learn the hard way because I had went from nothing to twins, and I know I wore myself out personally trying to

help and help with feedings a night and everything. You guys have help so that you know when you when you need the rest, you can't help or you can't rest. Yeah, we do got help, that's the I mean. So we got the living nanny, night nurse. So, uh it's expensive, but it's the best money spent because you get that sleep. Uh yeah, I mean this is we're on the road a lot, so I mean having two kids in the house.

Now it's a different it's a whole different animal. So you don't want to leave it back there by so absolutely, and you got and you got Grandma and Grandpa not too far. Yeah, I can't forget them. I can't. I gotta show them a lot of love because they him in and help help too. And um, especially with the old one. Did you know you currently have the second highest career three point field goal percentage in NBA history, right upon the Steve Kerr and your brother and your

brother is within tim How does that? Yeah? I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean it feels good. I mean I probably myself on being efficient, just being able to do my job every night, and and just a shooting family,

just a shooting family. I was about to say that, bro, like they shoot the ship out the ball and then they got they got they got to he got he got one, and then Steph got one us just like that shooting Lenny is just going to continue to carry I hope so I would pass down because they're gonna be a tall one too, right, Kelly's tall, That's right. We all know the goal is to get a championship ring, But how do you reflect on your journey back then

to the present day. I live in a moment. I don't take it for granted, just being here for seven and seven eight years already, um playing playing in the league. Uh. I mean, obviously you got a lot more I want to complish, with one of those being a championship and a long playoff runs. But um, I'm like I said, being undrafted, being having no scholarship offic was coming out of college, I mean out of high school. My dream of being in this position and playing every day. So

I don't take for grant. I live in a moment. And and like I said, take a year by a year. You gotta keep going, keep getting better, and that's that's that's the league, man. You gotta you gotta keep adding to your game. Uh, because the new as new crops coming in every year every day. I definitely want to salute you, though, go Bro, because your ship was a slow grind and I remember playing against you towards the end of my career and you were gritty as a motherfucker,

like tough. I remember I was trying to bully you underneath and you elbowed me back. I'm like this a little motherfuck ut some hard. I like that, but your grind was slow, you know, obviously with who your dad was and and your brother's success. And like I said, you had a lot of confidence in yourself. When you said that, I thought that was big because you had every reason to derail off the tracks, you know, from the pressure and all the outside noise. But your grinding

your improvement and you know that ship. Like Jack said, you're number two all time in the history of the league, which is incredible, man. So we just want to salute you man for your grinding and sticking to it, because it's a beautiful thing to see, you know what I mean, Like, because a lot of people in your position probably could have tapped out, but you kept your head down and kept grinding, man, And now you're making a beautiful career

and a beautiful living for yourself. Man, So we definitely want to salute you on that. Bro. Now I appreciate that, man. Yeah. I think one of the biggest things, the biggest things in that is just being adapt trying to find your niche in the league, man, you know, Matt, especially uh

like trying to find a role on the team. If you're not gonna be a star player, you gotta you gotta get the stars of lack you and you gotta be you gotta be able to play with them, because I mean, no matter what you can playing about when those dudes making a max five year did, they ain't going nowhere. So you gotta you gotta fit in and

you gotta adjust. And just being around the league, I was able to watch watch my post first foremost do it for sixteen years and and and never be a starter, and watch a lot of other role players just just finding niche and and figure it out. So yeah, yeah, that's one thing that I remember that always stuck with me. The doc said is I don't know if he says around your team, but being a star in your role, I mean there's plenty. You know, everyone's got a role

to play, man, and every part is important. And be a star in that role. And you know, like like you said, you know, that was something that I was able to play until I didn't want to play an allow. I bounced around like I always started. I was always the top two guys off the bench, and it was really kind of just finding your niche. And once you find your niche and you get that perfect that play as long as you want, man, and that's something you've

definitely done. Man. So again, hats off to you, all right, quick hitters. First thing to come to mind, let us know what was your welcome to the NBA moment? My welcome to the NBA moment? I got a yeah, So I'm in my first thing, I'm into d Lee. I get caught up. That's one of the while. I caught up that same day, and I gotta suit up, suit up for Memphis. We're playing, um the Rockets, this James James Harden Rockets and you know he he hunt trying to find a matchup. I get out there. I ain't

even broke a sweay yet. I'm I'm io with James. I got James. He handled the bubble. I'm like, yeah, I'm here now. So that's that's a good welcome to the to the league moment. That's you're going to the black Top, right, You're going to the black Top? You and your brother, what three other players you're gonna bring tow y'all down to the black Top pastor present? So I don't got my one guy, my gut team man. I got T mac um that was my favorite player,

going T mac give me give me Shock. Yeah, give me Shock, come on, give me m J. So we got me Steph, m J T Mac and Shock. We're gonna we're gonna spread it out. Yeah, you're gonna take over the black top. Yeah, super straight with that. Which album can you listen to a repeat with no skips? I mean, it's it's a ice get answer, but I'm getting give me a go ahead, one of the User Confessions albums. Man, hey, you you was young when that

ship first came out. I was. I was. We were still running around the middle school, high school listening to it though, So that's classic, that's the classic banks he said, Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. If you if you can sit courtside any game in history, which one wouldn't being, why, that's it. Go m hmm, any game in history. Give me the one of those Kobe Kobe Finals games gets the Celtics, one of them Kobe's Final games gets the Celtics. Some matchups. That was yeah, yeah, that was a good

I was that. I was that the obviously I was at the Warriors uh as Game seven, I was. That was on high level with basketball. So that was good. That was good. Yes, it was uh five Dinner guests dead or alive. Shoo give me Muhammad Ali, m Ali, Tiger Woods, Obama, Obama, give me Malcolm x h oh oh, Micol, give me Dizel Washington. That's a dope dinner. Yeah, I'm wrong with them. I'm gonna bring the weight. I'm making out anyway, it's my show. I'll bring the wine. I'll

bring the wine. There you go, last, but not least. Bro, if you can have one guest on our show, who would you want to see? But you got to help us get your answer on this show. There you go, put them to work. I don't know if you have you have Muggy balls on yet? Who soil? We have it? We have it. Yeah, Yeah, that's my guy, signed my best friend. So that happened. But yeah, you know he got some stories. I know he do. Yeah. He a legend, man.

I want to I want to ask him. By the time Jordan had him on the block and he was holding Jordan up like what he was thinking, Yeah, mug tell all them stories. Man. He was he hit that dude man five three playing in the league as long as he did. I don't know three, bro, that's not people. That's not exaggeration. He five three yeah, yeah, a little too physical as a motherfucker too. Facts facts well, seth, man,

we appreciate your time during this holiday season. That's the luck to your team, to the family, the newborn and man God bless and have a prospers two. Bro, appreciate man. Yeah, I gotta tell you this, soum. I'm stefan step rookie year he out there, um in the baby mess with job. You know, you gotta get out there. I'm like, who who are you messing on? Who you're messing on? My

team out there? It's like this first week or two, like you know, rock rock with stack Man here hit he cooldt like Stephen Jack like yeah, asshole, yeah no, he's really I don't know what people talking about. I messed with him. So I let you know that man showing him love from day one. Man, Man, that's dope. Bro. I appreciate you. And then Jack wanted to be traded because he didn't believe in your brother. But that's crazy as hell. Yeah, that guy, he just got kicked out

the game before the game started. What you mean, imagine if we had stuff just for like as a rookie on that we believe team. He might be different than he might be. He might be tatted up. Yeah yeah, he would definitely have some tattoos. Broke, he would for sure have some tattoos, and then he might he might have an area tool too. Yeah yeah, I said. Then we appreciate you, bro man. Best to luck the rest of the way. We'll talk again. Have a good one. I appreciate it. Tell Pops I say what up too?

Because I had I played against Pops. Help Pops and say whatever sir. That's a rap. Seth Curry all the smoke. You can catch us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube or the I Heart platform Black Effects. We'll see y'all next week. This is all a Smoke, a production of The Black Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime