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with us? Tune in next season. Welcome back to a special episode of All the Smoke with the legendary the one and only God Shamn God. Welcome to the show, broke Man, Thank you. Man's a pleasure being on the show. You know, I'll watch you all the time. You know, y'all y'all kicked that rail, so it's definitely a pleasure. Man. We appreciate having you. So, what's going on right now? How is life treating you? Guys? Just came on off a nice run last season? How is the off season

been treating you so far? But it's been good. You know, we've just been doing draft workhouse and had free agency camp and you know we just um drafted and signing player you know jay a Hardy, so you know, just talking to him and his pops, you know, chopping it up with his team and just getting to know him and getting ready for some of the league. That's what we're doing right now. This may be above your pay grade, but I'm gonna ask anyway, y'all gonna be able to

keep Jalen Brunson. He had a big year last year. Uh, he's hit the market and that money is going up obviously. You know how important he is to your guys team. Uh, can you give us any insight on you know, uh, possibilities of him possibly staying with you guys man, The only thing I just say is I hope he stayed with us. You know what I'm saying, you home grown? You know JB is an amazing player with us, for

anybody would be an amazing player. He's you know, he worked, He worked his tail off, you know, so nothing wasn't given to him, you know, has everybody know you know, he was drafted in the second round, had to be in called, you know, Big East Player of the Year, so you know you could tell the talent speaks for itself, and you know he worked his tail off and you know, he was very important for us, and you know, hopefully

he's still be that. You know, in a few tip You've been player development in Dallas for the last six years. Tell us how that position came about for you. Well, it came about. I was at Providence College and I was working out for people I know, Bryce Cott and Chris Dunn. Chris Dunn was the number five pick in the draft, the biggest player of the year, and you know a lot of people just start seeing and hearing

about me working other players out. You know, whether it was doing stuff with Ben Gordon, you know, Dennis Smith Jr. Whether it was being like kind of a co mentor for like Trade Young, you know, talking to his parents and stuff like that. And you know a lot of people just just reach out to me, like all over the like, all over the world just because of dribbling. And so I started went back to Providence to get my degree to finish body by now, I left school early,

and you know, I just took on life. Just zon Mike Procopio. Shout out to Mike Procopio. You know, he was playing development at Dallas, you know before I got there, and him and Michael Finley brought me in and kind of about me. And I ready knew Mark from working out for Doubts like years ago, and you know, they bring me in for a workout the first they came to Providence to watching me work out. Ricky Leedo, Ricky Leedo has sat out. You know, his his freshman year

had problems, but he still got drafted. And you know, everybody kept saying, man, you should, you know, you should be playing development for the NBA, for the NBA because you know you do. Some of guys like that was deeper different people. You know, once I came, you know, my first year, you know, we drifted Denn Smith Jr. You know, I was working on HB a lot, have some Bodus what's the matthreew step Curry and everybody saw their development and then you know, after that, it's just

was kind of like solidified. It was more than you know, because I think when people first thought about it, thought I was just there to teach people how to dribble, you know, and they don't understand, you know, it's not really it is dribbling, but it's not really such things to driveling coach, because you know, even if you teach drilling, you gotta teach how to make layups. You gotta teach

how to come out of it. So in the actuality you're doing and the whole players development ain't just guards. And then when people start seeing like I could teach big Man and stuff like that, and it goes back from years when you know, when I used to work with Kobe and different players and Chris Webber, Kevin Garden that you know July, you know he was in the McDonald's an American game with me, and you know how many like whether it was him, brothers, KG was all

the big actively showed a lot of dribble. It ain't just me, Yeah, it ain't. It ain't just me like showing point guards how to dribble. And that's what people don't understand because you know, it ain't just about dribbling. You know, it's not about just doing a whole bunch of fancy moves and things like that. It's about teaching people get to the spaces they want to get and playing,

you know, comfortable and uncomfortable situations. Quick questions someone who was so obviously how they decorated in high school, in college, you know, you had a quick stint in the league played overseas for a little while. When did it hit you that, like you just said, you kind of it was natural. You've always kind of been a teacher even while you were a player. When did you kind of

just really buy into Okay, I love basketball to death. Obviously, all the court is not necessarily where I wanted it to be. But I see I can make a whole new living teaching people. And I've been teaching people in my whole life. So when did you kind of buy into that mindset that, Okay, as much as I love the game and want to play, me teaching the game

is what's gonna take me to that next level. Yeah, I mean I would say, you know, like you said, obvious, you know you wish you you know it would be you know, hall of fame, playing the NBA for about a bunch of years and things like that. I would say, I had just got m v P in China and then like I got my niece scope. So I went back to Providence to rehab. Sean Brooks was there. This is like what Shaun's Brooks like sophomore year and I was rehabbing and they was acting me like, you know,

can you talk to him? That's like, yo, he's a good player. You know, he's on the verge of something, but you know he's got a lot of stuff going on. And it was like can you help him? And I was like I was like, yeah, you know, I'm up here working out. We can work out. And actually right after I went back to China and he had a great season and everybody was talking about like how much I hoped him, and then he was saying how much

I helped him. And then, like you said, I was getting older, and I was like, man, I had two or two years left from my contract in China, and I was like, do I want to stay over here and play? And then at the a d at the time man went to school together and he was like, man, you should come back and be assistant coach at Providence

and I was like, uh, I really don't know. But then at the time I was like, well, this would be a perfect opportunity for me to get into coaching because if I keep playing two one years, I don't know who would be the coach here. And then Cooley really embraced me to come to Providence to be a coach. So I was like, man, I gotta take this opportunity now, because I don't know two years later, I might not

have this opportunity to walk into this. So, like you said, I was thinking about long term and I was like, man, I might as going to do this now and then with also help. I remember right before the Lakers played Boston and they did an interview with Kobe and Kobe was like, yeah, you know, because I've never said nothing about it at that point, Kobe was like, yeah, you know, she and Well taught me how to dribble and stuff

like that. So of course, when Kobe says, you know, the whole world listening to everybody start hitting me up like yo, can you do this? Can you do that? Can you do this? And I was like alright cool. And then after that, like you said, I just I came to grips with it more than I think other people did, because other dudes like, now you're still trying to play and I was like no, man, you know, once I came to good with it in my mind,

I was like, this is what I'm supposed to do. Well, once they named and a move after you, you know, you come you come up with that transition a little easier, and the people you were able to get to and teach, you know, those parts of the game that to come natural to you. I think that's why you were able to have a easier transition. Shout out to the c

b A too. I played in for a couple of years, you know what I mean, And I know how you can get your game off over there, you know, shout up, yeah, sham, you're you're one of the most You're one of the main characters coming out and Showtimes, uh well, and a documentary that will be premiering on Showtime on July twenty nine, point Guards. So I told us a little bit about point Guards, you know what I mean in the project and you know, and how was that for you going

through the whole process? Man? For me, it was like I said, you know, shout out, shout out to k d Rich Climate in a you know, a boardroom for even having me on there. Want me on there, um because I'm only with great with great players that I looked up to a course, being from New York. You know, it's Robertrick and Mark Jackson, you know, Kenney Smith, you

know Pearl Washington rest in peace. You know, even even my peers that's around my age you know, skip to my little rainfast and you know stuff on mare very just people like that. For me, it was amazing because, like I said, for me to be lumped in a group of guys like that have done amazing things like in New York City and across the world. Like I said, for me, it is amazing because like me coming up,

you know, class of ninety. You know, me and Steph was both point guards coming from New York and all we wanted to be was like a person like Kenny Anderson, you know, proson at that point, Kenny Anderson was like the best thing walking, you know, his legal weapon three. And for him to be from New York City, man, he had big dudes wanted to be Kenny. Yeah, yeah, he he. He had to move against barbed early in

the n C Double A tournament. That was amazing. And you know that's all we wanted to do at the time. So we're rich. Were Richard them asked me, you know, of course, you know, it's a honor for me to do it just to you know, to know my um impact on on ball players, you know, growing up dribbling and people from New York City. I think it's just

a great documentary. Every state has something, you know, in New York City is known for point guards, you know, so like, so I think this is gonna be a good thing for not just the local people, but just for the world to see. Does it ever resonate with you? Because I think sometimes as individuals, were always moving on to what's next and always on that you know, eternal grind.

But the fact that you never really had a long, successful NBA career, but still your name is mentioned with greats and you know, you're still remembered as one of the ones. But I think that, I mean, does it ever restaurant how motherfucker dope you really are even though you didn't decide. I mean, the NBA takes a lot of luck, takes a lot of luck to happen. It's

not always skill. Most of the time it's luck. But for you to not necessarily make it in the league, but to still kind of I mean, you've got your own fucking shoe deal, you know what I mean? Like for you to still do and accomplish all these things without the long NBA career, but still be talked about in these circles and be a part of projects like this. Do you ever just sit back, like, yeah, it was a cold motherfucker. Even though the other ship didn't pan out,

I would you know, I definitely did my thing. I just want to make sure you know how nice you are and how important you are, and like you said, the impact you had on the game, but not necessarily having that long in your career like you like you just said, like I don't, I don't never I don't.

I don't never realize it because the difference, you know, and it's not like you know, and I don't get into old school, moved school, but the differences is like I grew up around a lot of real dudes, you know what I'm saying, you know, just like you know, I don't cross path with a lot of really dudes, like whether it's you and Matt Barns, whether you know me and stack Jack been placed together, you know, July we call I'm somebody at a young age, you know

what I'm saying. So like you know, growing up in the era of the Kobe's and the people that people told you the truth and stuff like that. So everything for me, it is amazing because you know, everything for me happen organic. You know, we live in and we live in a coach and now where people try to create create some stuff instead of letting things be organic. And one thing you know about organic or organic love

never fades, you know what I'm saying. When when his love, when this stuff that it just happens and people know you're not trying to do this, trying to do that. That that's the real stuff. So or again a glove stage. And for me, you know, it's amazing for me because most people see their inspiration like when they die, you know what I'm saying. I get delivering my inspiration every day, you know, and then being a part of the NBA.

Now when people do moves and certain stuff like that, I'm sitting right there and they're like, oh oh yeah, you know Sham was right there on that was match and stuff like that. So I get to see I get to see my inspiration every day and my impact. And like you said, it's not about you know, if I played thirty years, what it is. It's just about It's about the respect when people in the love that

people show me. And it's funny because you know, I mean one one year, me and Chauncey was in Vegas and then he was laughing because it was like a group of kids like walking down the street and they walked past both of us and we just sitting there talking and then a kid come back and he's like, oh, you know we're sitting there. I'm like okay about that something whatever. He comes back and he's like, hey, aren't you shim got or whatever? And I'm like yeah, and

then I'm like yeah. So we just start talking. It's like he's like, hey, can you take a picture like this? And I'm like this to me and Chance. We walk off. When we last we're laughing, but me and Chance got fifteen years of friendship, so we laughing. Was like, Yo, that's crazy, Like I'm a hold of famous. Is that

these kids they recognize you? And he was like and Chance has always been like a person I could call talk to, you know, things that talk things out, Like even when I was getting back into the NBA and he's the main one, you know, kind of like she said, he's like, man, you don't know how big it is, Like, bro, you gotta shoot you got this. He was like, Yo, that's so crazy. He's like, I know you probably don't

realize that now. He's like, but that's so crazy. Always been like that since ninety five, Like you can put up he never had a big ego. He's on basketball and you know he can get your ass back, right. Were at least somewhere in the middle. So I'm glad you have glad to know that that class of ninety five still kept that ball. I feel like, you know, there's ale of us throughout the years. We catch up with each other and remind each other that we was

a cold asked McDonald's side school. Yeah, because like it's crazy, Like I try to tell people like from the time musing to mcdows American going to the mall, get our ears pierced and all the other stuff. I'm like, yo, I'm like, I'm like yo, I'm like the ninety five class was like it was like so close until this day. I'm like, it was like a brotherhood like to this day, like when I see Kevin and I see everybody, it's

like it was just like yesterday. And I don't think you have that as much as no more like you have back then. We was like such a brotherhood with dudes can really tell each other the truth and it don't be like a big thing about it. It's just like okay, cool, move on, let's figure it out because it's genuine love real. So your titleist player development correct, No, this year I got I got promoter shows that's just

assistant coach player development. So you know it's yeah, I appreciate it, you know, But I say, but I say all that to say, you have your own shoe with Puma. Talk to us. How about that situation? How that came so a couple of years ago. I mean for people that know, you know, jay Z got a best friend that's named Embry Embry Jones, and Embry is like, you know, he's like the coaching person like that the brands go to. And he had called me one day and he was like, hey,

you signed to anybody right now? And I was like nah. He was like, um, you know Puma trying to come back to um to the culture. And he was like, do you um they want you to give him some advice or like what parks to go to, like what kids to look at? Stuff like that? You know, would you mind talking to him about possibly being a consultant? So I was like cool. I was like yeah, because I know there was I do a big splash in New York City at this summer, and I was like cool.

I was like, I have to tell you where to go with part. So then I get on the phone and we were talking about what they're looking for in the athlete, like to try to you know, bring it back to where it was before. And after we got off the phone, you know, like a week later, O g on and jay z M and call me and he was like, man, you must have had a good conversation.

Was like, because you know, they was like, yo, one thing, just use you and I was like, oh, okay, cool, and it was like it was like you're a part of the culture. You know, every you know, all the kids look up to you for dribbling and stuff like this. And I was like, yeah, it makes sense that then we were talking about because I was like, I don't want to do it unless I can't do stuff for my community, you know what. I want to make sure I do a whole bunch of stuff for the community.

And then the craziest thing that happened, you know, like you were saying earlier, man like Orgainsley for some reason, like as soon as I signed with them, you know, that summer going into the season, everybody was doing the move. So then it was like it just was like man, perfect it. It's like like I said, organically again you came, and then that's what Russ did it. Rust Folly did it, and then they interviewed Russ and Russ was like, oh yeah,

that's a movie. You know they called the kids called the Sham Guard or whatever, and it was like it just was happening like every other week. And you know, to your point earlier, if I stayed playing basketball, that's what people saying. If I stayed, if I don't follow my path and trust and with God God for me, if I stayed and tried to force the issue playing, yeah, it's still would have been a sham where I move, but it would have been totally different if I'm in China,

I'm somewhere else. Then sitting on the NBA bench is a direct is a direct connect. So it's been like oh, yeah, that's some guy that used to play in the NBA. Cool, but now kids could Even then when people are saying the sham kids, was like, oh, that's a move. I remember I used to entruce people people parents and introduced me. They'd be like, that's not sham. Sham I was a move that's not They're like, no, he's a person. It's a person. So it was like so they're like, no way.

So now you know, if I wasn't sitting on the NBA bench and I would have been forcing and trying to be like, oh, I'm just played, just to be playing and make a couple of dollars do this and not follow with with guard half of me from the beginning, because like you said, when I look back on it, I'm like, man, you know, even though you know McDonald's on American College, American stuff like that, I'm like, it seemed like from day one, God was putting me here

to teach. From me being seven team and teaching Kobe, I drew as six team and then keep going and all along the whole path, whether it's like I said, McDonald's or American with Julianni and KG and I'm like, yo, can you show me this move? So when I got drafted to the Wizard, I used to have to practice show Chris Webber moves and stuff like that. We just played against the Lakers and shock like, oh man, I know you got that the moves ro you know I'm

gonna show you show me some of the moving. So it was like, of course my whole path, Yeah, of course my whole path. Everybody was always asking me, yo, can you show me this? Can you show me that? And then when I finally embraced it, like you said, it just opened up the floodgates. And like you said, this career well last way longer than my playing career. Well you just told us all the people that that that kind of recognized the game. But how did the

move itself come about? Break this down for us? So what happened is cancer just do this move there. He would go one side and skip his legs and go between the legs. So as as I was growing up, rap Rap used always, do you know he's called skipped to my luis or skip up the court? So he used always do you know watch that skip moves stuff like that. And then there was a guy named Suran Anderson that people would never probably know ever, but in New York City everybody know him because at one point

they thought him and his name insurance. At one point they throught him and Kenny Anderson's brothers because the way he dribbled and he had just one hand crossover. He's always come up the court like somebody rest when here, come up to court, full court, full court, and then we get to the file out here, double cross and lay it up. So he's one of the first three.

When I first moved from Brooklyn the Hall of I saw a play and I was like, man, I gotta learned how to do one hand drew and stuff like that. So then in the mcdown was I mean in college, the first time I ever tried was like against Jeff b Lett. I was trying to do the move ken incident, like to skip, skip to my legs, go between my legs and go to opposite direction. What happened was when I went to skip and through the ball, I lost

the ball. The guy reached for the ball. So the only thing I can do is pull back at the time, so at this time, so at this time, I used to always watch, you know, like me learning how I drew. I didn't have no big brothers, I didn't have no hat, so I used to always watch videotapes and slow motion.

So I used to have to this cassette take called below the Rim for people that know it was like Tim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, uh pistol p tiny archer ball, you know, and and Tashi was my coach, and they've great and he was always like, man, if you get if you if you work on your hand, and you're always gonna mean something to a team. And I just got possessed after that, to the point where I used to be in a park trying to shake my shadow and all these other craze. I was looking like nuts,

so from bug like stuff like that, you know. And then I put anchor weights up on my wrist to dribble and stuff, so to get back to the point. So when I threw it and I pulled it back, they go on, I'm watching my I would just always watch film, So I'm watching the film and slow, mostly because I just always watched so I could learn people, Cadence, I could learn people the way how they have they how footwork work, stuff like that. So when I watched him,

like man, this could work. Like this could work. So the next day of practice and the practice, I got my guy Corey right there with the problems with me, and we stayed in the gym for like ten hours, just keep going over and keep going over, and keep going over and keep going over. And then once we

got in an n C Double A tournament. You know, it just took life of this all playing against Arizona, and it was so funny because I mean with Michael Dickoson once that happened, We're standing at the free throwne. Michael Dickson like, man, what you just do you know that at that point, you know you're in competitive And I'm like, what, don't talk to me. Don't talk to me. None of y'all can't guard me. And I'm just like him, and like I said, still up to that point, I

don't know nothing. I'm just I just did a move squeers. Yeah, And like I said, again, I don't know nothing. So I go on, I go home and I'm like, yeah, I'm coming out. So I'm walking past the park, you know, going to my old neighborhood, and I hit a little kid like, oh, I'm a sham you. I'm ashamed you. Like he's talking to another little kid and I'm like what, I'm just sitting there watching them play. And then I'm trying to steal the board from a little kid and

a little kid like, oh, I'm a sham guard. I'm a sham guard. And I was like what And then after that. That's what I knew it was the thing. But I'm you know, like you said, I'm thinking like, okay, that of fade, that of fade what it is? So I gotta give a big shot out to my father the name of me cause hm, God, because that plays a part of it too. So exactly you know what I'm saying, Because I always tell you my name is

Frank or something. I don't know if you'd be like, hey, I'm doing a Frank, so I don't I don't know, you know, yeah, that's it might not have working it as a Frank, but you did. You all you all on the all name team with side Remember scientific map topic, Yeah, it was that like you know here Papa say so and then shout out told the paper says, you know he and then my father and his father and father. But before we get to onto the next just give

me a book. What was the eighties and nineties like in Brooklyn and the basketball saying scientific matt typographic match five percenters hood dudes in between you and Stefan, you know what I mean. There's just so many people in the eighty nineties that have, like you said, if you mentioned the name you might not know who he was, but he was detrimental into the development of the area and either point guard point guard. New York City basketball is so real, quick, just give me a couple of

words on what eighties and nineties basketball. But like in Brooklyn, it was like for you know, for for us out here in New York, you know, whether it's Brooklyn, whether it's Hall of you know, in the eighties and the nineties, it was, you know, we're like, we're like rock stars

were just like how rappers are. Now. That's what he was as basketball players at a young age, and that's why it was kind of hard for kids to kind of make it out of New York City because they were in the NBA before being in the NBA, you know what I'm saying. So it's like even if you go back to Pearl Pearl, Washington, Rest in Peace Pearls in high school and used to come to the game with a motorbike and a gold pac Man chain that a coach brought him because they's always said he eat

up all his opponents. So he used to come in and they should call him pact Man. And he had come to like this this place called King Don King Towers and it'd be like three thousand people there. You know what I'm saying, Like when Me and Stuff was coming up, you know, Kenny Anderson, especially when Me and Stepp came up, because that's like nineties was like the real era of like hip hop and fashion everything in

New York. And at this point, you know, you gotta think me and step is like fifteen sixteen, We're hanging out with Puff Daddy, you know, in fact, you know jay Z, you know, all these people are legends. Say, oh, you know, you gotta think for me. And it was real crazy for me because the error I came in, Like you gotta think I moved from when I moved from Brooklyn to Holland, I moved in the middle of

Holle right across the street. At fifteen, cameeron Live across the street, Mason Live up the street, Big l lived down the street. God bless her that Alim Black with a live across the street. So were all hanging out together every day, you know what I'm saying, Like every day, you know, before Mason Camp starts rapping, we're hanging out every day. Then you know, Jim Jones, you know, we

all in the same neighborhood. Then we're playing for a team called Young Life with me step Raid you know what I'm saying, Kareem read as what I'm saying, you know. And then I played I played with Goal, got me Steph Felipe Lopez and stuff like that. So like that error was so enriched in culture, you know what I'm saying. It was so enriching coach. And then when you go away and play tournaments, you meet a guy named Bubba Chuck that people you know, at this point we're like, oh,

who's this dude? We played football and basketball, you know what I'm saying, and all that other stuff. Yeah, so it was like it was it was just so it was just so enriched in basketball to the point where like I think everybody that was in the mcdousand or American team where it was from, was like rock stars. You know already, you know what I'm saying. And and

and we was living like the rock star life. So even when you look at the NBA, the people for the nineties, once they transition NBA, and that's when it took off, like the whole fashion thing, the whole jury thing, the whole car and stuff like that, because most of the babblers felt it was rappidsh you know what, that

kind like they was living like embracing that lifestyle. And so that's why I said, So it was it was so amazing for me to grow up in a R and I think for me that would always be the best R. Not saying the eerror that's now, But back then, it was just so all the people there that I was route kind of shaped the culture, you know what I'm saying, From jay Z, from Puff, from stuff from different players, from AI as a whole. The nineties is

all across the board. Yeah, I think that the nineties across the board, sports, culture, fashion, you name it, music, it was. It was definitely the legendary And that's why I said, And that's why I said, like I was the crazy part because I was like a direct in the midst of it, you know what I'm saying, because like even look at street ball, Rave. Rave took street ball to a whole nother level, you know what I'm saying.

And this is a person I'm with all the time too, So it's like I'm in the middle of you know, at this point, Mass like almost like Drake in the Street, Mass like, don't one young boy rapping over and he's coming with me to all my games and I'm making him wrap for people at the game before you get on. I'm like yo. I'm like yo, my man is nice. You could wrap. They're like, man, we don't want to hear that slow stuff. A year later, now you know

one person on the trucks like going there. You know Cam always was nice, so you know, just to have you know, Cam fat joined him on the document The documentary is great because they've seen most of us, especially me and stuff and rage like since it was like fourteen years old. M Again Point Guards premier in July twenty nine on Showtime Again shout out kd Rich climates in the boardroom, we we winded down right here. You've been blessed to kind of have a front row seat

throughout Luca's career. At what point did you know he was different? Uh? The first because we had everybody and Jim knew he was different. First because he was doing passes, he was doing all types of stuff. And then like for people that know, like, um, people know how competitive I am? You know how competitive down strong is the great dow I'm strong, And we would challenge him every day and he would want to play us one on

one every day. And the words that you're saying right now, you uhould always say to him and be like, yeah,

I'm different whatever. And when he coming out the games now, that's what he says every day, like we're a joke, and he'll be like, damn, I'm different, I'm different, you know, you know, But like you know, l L was like one of those I was like one of those people that you know how view like a great artist and somebody give you a canvas that's so amazing and you're like, Okay, I can make this canvas into every anything you want.

That was one of those things. You don't have to give him a lot of stuff to give him a little thing, and he turned that little thing into a masterpiece, you know. And that's what dribbling, that's what changing angles. And like I said, the Scot's a limit for him, you know, like and you know, to be on all the smoke. He wants all the smoke. So you know he's not he's not back down. Oh boy, he wants

all of it. And he's just he's just a great playing, great competitive and the one thing that's good, great about he's a great person, like he's gonna you know, he's a good kid. He listens and you know he's gonna work his tail off and you know, he just want to win. I brings being up to uh one of my next question. Everybody's seeing that picture of him looking a little bit more in shape than he's accustomed to

about playing internationally. Um, you think that's uh something that he's working on, working on extremely taking a little bit more serious now, working on his body so he's able to, you know what I mean, be the best Luca that Luca can be. Yeah, you know, Lucas one of them, one of them, one of them players, one of those people that you know he hears everything, yeah, everything, and he's gonna make the adjust meant you know that he sees fit and he's gonna he's gonna prove people wrong

all the time. And for for him, I just think, you know, when when he did so much that he did the year before, you know, of course you gotta relax your body, you know, and stuff like that. Maybe it's too much, maybe not, But like right now, he's taking everything serious and he hears everything and he sees like, what's such an impact he makes on the NBA and on our team, and you know, you just want to give us up to a great start next year. And I think he's gonna do everything possible that he came

to make sure that happens. Absolutely, being someone who gets an opportunity to work with him, what are the some of the kind of stuff you guys work on, Is that anything new or the kind of fine tuning what he already has. Now it's more, it's more fine tuning, Like Luca came here with the package. Yeah, he came here great. You know, he came here good. Is I as I was jobbed to always help to make them great? You know what I'm saying. He already came here good.

You know what I'm saying. So if you don't make somebody that's good great, than you're doing them a disserting the service. So like for him, everything is just morrifined tune, you know what I'm saying, Because his mind, in his mind, you know how the great players are, they might they have, they have things they want to get done, they have things they want to accomplish and how they want to accomplish.

So it's just our it's just our hour. You know, we just have to give him room to insert us into what he wanted to do, for us to about player development, like to get accomplished. You know, he might come and say, yn't want to work on backdowns, I want to work on this. I want to work on they could be just yo. You guarded him and put in different body types on him just so he could

see it and get the right angle. So now when here in the game, everything is lived and you know he's going through the process in his mind because like I said, like Lucas one of those he's one of those savants, you know what I'm saying. And he got the in factor. You know, there's a lot of great players, but then so many great players that have the in fact and as everybody say, he got the in fact.

The thing that you just mentioned that I loved, and I remember Kobe talking about this, like the trainer should never tell you what you need to work on yourself, what you need to work on, you know what I mean? The fact that he knows exactly what he wants to do at his young age. I just Luka the great It's gonna be a good thing to watch man. Also, it's having a guy like Sham God on the staff who understands. You know, he was he was a maestro with the basketball. He knows, but what what people are

reacting to or switching up to our king? Uh. Also about having people on the staff to understand, Hey, this dude don't need too much. He sees something we don't. We need to try to get on the same page. So, like you said, it's an even exchange. Like another word you use, organic as opposed to going in there with a playing hundred crossovers right there. Sometimes some some people who do basketball development people they go, heywire when you can you know they're gonna they'll they'll trip out a

little bit. You know, Sham God has always been since I known it from ninety five, he's been able to adjust on the fly very quickly. Like I can come up to Sham got a ninety five there y'all teach me to Shannon God, No, what you need is a basic one to hit him with a cross like, no, you don't need that. Let me give you this and you're gonna be straight. To go back work on this and you're gonna be straight. So like I said, like I want to take giving your Flowers and you know

as a classic class of ninety five. And let you know, it's not just savant talent. It's mixed with people like you who understand the game the man. You know what I mean? Why people think why some people you know, savantage things. So it wasn't it doesn't work that way without you. That's why you got it. You know, that's why your job title change. You know that. Yeah, you check.

Like I said, I appreciate because it's like, you know, and that's you know, like matten On this because he's you know, deadly for so long and then you know, like Jason Kidds and stuff like that, like the way Jason mind is. You know, he wants everybody to be better. You know what I'm saying. He wants everybody to continue to grow because he's been such a giver, you know what I'm saying. And you know, everybody can see the difference,

like how he worked with Luca this year. And then you got you know, a great owner and Mark Cuban, you got you know, a great Jim and Nico have been around, Nico has have been around basketball, got a president the president. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like yeah, so it's like it's like you got you got all basketball people, so now you know everybody gets you know, Grain Shape Jeans,

Sean Sweeney. You know, we just got Quentin So it's like, you know, you just watch Peter Pattons, So you just watch all these people and all these people know enough to where it. Like you said, we know when the fallback and when the push forward. You know when it comes to every player because every player is different, like Matt,

every player can't be told what to do. We player camp be you know, some people that want to be told what to do and some people that just want to be like, Okay, hey, this is what I want to work for. And it's like and you take your ego because ain't about the sham ain't about to take get you out of and say, okay, cool, let's let's just get that done. Final question before you get out

of here. Nine five McDonald's All American team which I got two members of or the nineties six team who wins oh ninety five that ain't even close, And we might have to carry we may we may have to carry this conversation on WF You have a ninety six representative here next time, like like I tell people all

the time, I'm never gonna argue ninety five. If it ain't one is too got to be top right there, right, anything anything else ain't civilized because and this is, this is the reason, and this is this is my criteria for it. Right. If you look at now, you know and then this is not me this this consensions. Right, So we're look at now, we probably got we got the first high school player that went that went crazy KG. That mean it's there's been other high school players I'm

talking about that that went crazy KG. We argue we got the best dunker, and we got to argue the best driver in one class. Then we got Paul Peers, we got July, we got We're to on Jamison, we got Tree fa do right that people don't know like hurt you know. So I'm just we had Wayne Turner, that Ron Mercer, like you know that's Steph Marbury too, right, yes, So like so we we got what I'm saying is we got we got culture changing people that the world say.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying the world that's what they say. That's what they say that people say, that's what they said. Well, god man, we appreciate you. Are you gonna be a summer league? Yeah yeah, we definitely. We definitely got to catch up. We'll be out there all weeks. We definitely gotta pull up and chop it up a little bit and kicking. But for everyone out there, Point God premieres on Showtime July twenty nine. We appreciate

your time, Best to love. Congratulations, we got you, giving you your flowers. Congratulations on the promotion man, and continue success my brother man. I appreciate it. Thank you all for having me on. Jay Broo