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NBA Finals Recap & Fan Questions | WHAT’S BURNIN | Showtime Basketball

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The 2021-2022 NBA season is officially in the books, as the Golden State Warriors took down the Celtics in the NBA finals to win their 4th championship of the decade. On the latest episode of WHAT'S BURNIN, the boys recap the epic series and discuss the legacies of Steph, Klay & Draymond. Plus, they answer fan questions and talk NBA draft.

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Anybody else in the in the draft, Jack Kennon Lofton Jr. He can score, can shoot and do it all? Is that Kenny Lofton sons the baseball player? Like how the funk is your dad so small and he got so big? Welcome back to What's Burning? Jack, We officially have a champ in the NBA. The Golden State Warriors finished in six like you said they would. Congratulations them first and foremost. Did you get a chance to see any of the parade or or any of the edits floating around social media?

Well one one uh the night they wanted Jamond something in a little texts and only the strung survive on Instagram. Uh of me saying that he shouldn't have been doing the podcast if he was playing, well, yeah, do it. But White the way he's playing, he shouldn't be doing it. You know what I mean? And I know that's my little brother. We are. We go back and forth sometimes, but I'm so proud of him, bro, because he started

off bad. And the reason why I said that he shouldn't have been doing the podcast during that time, man, because as me and you both know, how the old media, not us in the new media, would try to scrutinize him and try to his legacy and blame the whole series on on him on the podcast instead of their play, and it would have looked all bad. So that's how I was thinking. But I'm happy for my bro. Talk your ship, man, you deserve your ship. I watched a lot of him, Matt Clay, you know Clay. I was

looking for Clay the whole time. He play all the time, and he didn't disappoint me. Dog for the organization, I'm happy for I'm happy for all of them. Man, it's big. I'm I'm happy to be a part of that family as well. No, definitely, I mean again, hats off to this team. Uh, it's unfortunate, like we live in a society today that that people feel like it's weak to show love. So instead of showing love this the whole season and even now people are knocking them for whatever

reason they can possibly fine. But what I love is this team is is a tight knit group. They don't give a funk about what the outside has to say. And again, man, they're producing, you know, four championship in eight seasons. But what we talked about yesterday on ESPN was pretty funny because obviously there's some pettiness going on. Again, you don't remember as players, Man, we may not be present for everything, but somehow, some way gets back to us.

Everything that's said by someone that's relevant eventually gets back to him. So Steph knew Steph has some petty ship going on. Uh, Clay has some ship. You know. Draymond was talking this ship, so I just think it was dope. Again, after all this team is accomplished, to kind of just get that ship off your chest, because again, I'm sure in the position they're in, they endured just so much hate along the way. It's got to feel, you know,

vindicating to obviously when the championship. First and foremost, but to be able to just shut all these motherfucker's up, man, So shout out to the homies man Warriors. Eight years. We paid them fine for them to be able to talk. They talk their ship comfortably. We paid them dues that no definite, definitely offseason, man, they got a lot of choices coming up. First and foremost, Jordan's pool Uh is

heading into the last year of his rookie deal. Uh. He has until the seventh to strike a new deal with the doves. Andrew Wiggins. I didn't realize Andrew Wiggins is this young? What is he? He's still in his twenties and the final season of his hundred forty seven million dollar Workie extension. Obviously, Wiggins express he wants to stay. He's definitely found at home there. Uh Looney who was pivotal uh in these playoffs. Uh is linked to possibly

Sack and Mike Brown heading over there. Um the only guy to play every game this season a hundred and four games, eighty two in the regular season, twenty two in the post beautiful thing. If I was playing his minutes, I'll be ever played nine season straight. Got three rings, three of them. Other unrestricted free agents g P two, Iggy Otto, Porter, but Eliza, Damien Lee. Let's play GM four a little bit. I just gave you a list of people who are up. Let's talk about maybe some

of the words top priorities. Pool and Wiggins for sure. Um, I think that's that's the two big ones. I mean, I'm pretty sure you ain't coming back if I get to get jobs somewhere in the office is somewhere. Um, Damon Lee got a good shot because he brother in law. Stuff. So he might slide in there on on the minimum or something. But Pool and and um Wiggins are big keys to their puzzle. Wiggins is that stopper, you know, with with Clay slowing down a little bit. But I

think they will be better next year. But did that dynamic having those guys as your core. I think that's that's what they're looking forward to to be able to repeat. Yeah, it's interesting to see because you know, uh Pool is gonna probably demand anywhere from twenty to twenty five million per season. Uh Wiggins. You know, teams are gonna throw money at Wiggins. It'll be interesting to see, you know, who takes what um to keep this this team together.

Also g P two UM, I think he'll get, you know, a couple of million dollars situation to hopefully stay there. His journey has been a beautiful thing. Agreed, I think we have seen the last of Iggy, but if we have Man, four time champion, his accolades are are incredible, His leadership and just the way he carried himself. Man will definitely be missing this game. And also, someone else

I think was important at times was Auto Porter. I think his versatility, his ability to make shots, Um played huge in this run for them, so they definitely got some stuff to do. But this team has showed they're not afraid to go into the luxury tax. Uh. They're deep in that motherfucker. So they're most like, you're gonna have to you know. To me, it's it's all hands in, you know for steps final. You know, I feel like

they have a two or three year window. I could be wrong, it could be a little longer, but you know, they're getting Wiseman back again. They got a lot of young talent they need to resign. But I think it's all hands in. As much as it costs to continue to put a competitive team around Steff while he's here, I think they have to do. Yep, Jack, we haven't done this a little while. We're back to fan question.

Let's run through a few questions, uh for some of our fans that were tapping in from home, Starting with coach twelve. What's the best game you think you two have ever played? Is there a game that comes to mind for you? Jack? Best game I've played? Uh? I had forty three against Houston, I had thirty three in Game six against Dallas, and I had I led the team that scoring Game six West comments Finals for the Spurs. So those three games, that's big. That's big for me.

Ship probably in a losing effort. Unfortunately. I had a thirty point in like tenor eleven rebound game against Memphis in the playoffs when I was with the Clippers um the last year before we got DC Rivers in Memphis. So it was a big game when Zebo tried to beat up uh Blake and I had a hard foul's e Bo. That's probably one of my uh yeah, probably one of my more memorable games. Next fan question, T D. Johnson eight seven. Is Steph Curry a top ten playoff all time? He has to be. I think he has

to be. I'll know exactly where he fits in the hierarchy before we get to this. Did you see Skipping Shannon's top ten list yesterday? I'm glad I didn't. Probably uh uh. Skip had Lebron at number nine, which is fucking ridiculous, and then Shannon had Kobe at number nine and didn't even have Shock in the top ten. Yeah, man, like two nine basketball players. I respect him both and I love them both. I fun both of them. But come on, fellas, come on, fella, did you disrespecting the game.

Top ten, Yet to me, Steff is definitely top ten. A transitional talent if you think about people who have kind of revolutionized the game. Uh. You know, obviously the all time leading score cream at Blue Jabar sky hook that will never be matched, and all those Steph shoots the three and other people shoot the three. No one shoots that motherfucker like Steph. So to me, I feel like he's, you know, kind of had a transitional movement

in the game. He's moved the game forward. And you know, we talked about this all the time, and me coaching my kids and being at the tournament to watching younger kids jack. These kids don't warm up in the paint no more. These motherfucker's put their shoes on and start shooting the ball from half court to get warmed up. And I feel like that's, you know, the Steph Curry effect. And then not to mention all his accolades, you know a lot of people said he needed this Finals MVP

to define his legacy. Whoa whoa Uh. To me, I think step is more uh worried about team success and and he was able to help capture this fourth championship in eight years at the finals MVP two. But yeah, Jack, I definitely think Steph is in the top ten by far, not even close. He's in the top ten. Um when you talk about little little little guards best ever, I mean Ai, Uh, Isaiah Thomas. I love Ai to death and a number one for a long time, but step is the pasted Ai, you know, and you know how

I feel about as uh. Step Definitely, step is definitely in my top ten, not even close, best six three and under player and that that I mean, I think he's jumped. With all due respect Ai and Isaiah Thomas. Some people have Isaiah Thomas up there and and and for good reason, but I think stuff has has has surpassed both those legends. Shankar underscore tennis. What are the

Clippers prospects next season assuming a healthy Kauai MPG. I heard, you know they possibly trying to get Kyrie to so you imagine I don't know what the club is doing, but uh, they're not doing nothing if Kauai yet. Yeah, I think Kauai is obviously the key. Shout out t lou Man. He's able to have been able to keep this team competitive and in the playoffs with stars missing majority of the whole season. PG came back at the end, but I think those two healthy automatically put this team,

uh in the top five position in the league. Also, have heard the rumors about Kyrie Irving, and can't you imagine if Kyrie came to l A put basketball first and work with those two killers, it could be a problem. Uh yeah, definitely looking forward to the Clippers getting healthy next year. Ebridge three nine A player do celsiony to your eyes to get over the last hurdle? Who I mean? I think this experience for the Celtics was a great

learning experience. I think Jayson Tatum is gonna learn a lot um from this experience and use it to drive him this offseason to get better. Uh. These guys play great. They just ran into, you know, a really good veteran team. I think they need to add some depth, first and

foremost in a point guard. I know it won't happen, but someone like a Jathen Brunson, who can run the team, who can play defense, who can move smart over because the smartest done a tremendous job of playing point um, but I don't really feel like he's a natural playmaking point um. I just think he's been able to be so talented. He can play the position, but you know, a solid guard that that plays his role. You remember they've tried to have They've they've tried Kimba, they tried Kyrie,

and a scoring point guard doesn't work. I think, you know, Brunson can score out of necessity. But I also think he does a good job of running the team and he locks up on defense. So those are just a few things that kind of came to mind for me talking about the Celtics. I think they really really put together. You know, the Eastern Conference champs, just made it to the finals. I don't even think it is too much

they need to do. I think they can go small if they add another guard, like maybe like a guy you said, Colin Sexon or something like that. They can add a guy like that and play smaller where they can play Brown and take them at the three and four instead of the two and three, and that way you can play Marco Smart at the two guard and he can do what he do best shut the two guards down. Thata look better than me. But for the most part, Dog, they just need to stay healthy, get

Williams healthy and see what they can do. Yeah, maybe like a Malcolm Brockton. Yeah. I hope williams uh gets healthy. I heard he had to need drinks several times during the playoffs, So hopefully he'll be able to get that calm down and right before the season starts. Malcolm Brockton is a good name. The Smith's twenty one. What is the biggest what if? Of your guys careers? For me, it's easy. What if I never got into that brawl

in Detroit? Would have been a multiple All Star? I had out two years why average twenty, I would have got more accolades than what I had and probably looked that different. I didn't get those accolades just because of that, because I was looked at as a bad guy something like that, and uh infected my career. So what if I didn't get the joint also getting a lot more money and not being able to keep your money? I

think my biggest what if? So or what if the motherfucking Lop City Clippers got it together and and really funk with each other on the court like we're supposed to and and put egos at the door the way that Warrior's team did. When I got a chance to go there because I felt like for a couple of years, we had the most talent in the NBA, the deepest team, and we should have won at least played for a championship.

And I saying we should have't want it, but we should have at least played for a championship, but we couldn't get out of our own ways. So my biggest what if is what if the Lob City team funked with each other? Yeah? Chip, definitely a chip. Next on the radar presented you by DraftKings, the DraftKings three odds on favor for the NBA champ being Chip. God damn let the Warriors, bro. You already know that it's on to the next You know that the conversation is already

what then are the Lakers gonna do? And who's gonna win it next year? You know how how fast ship moves. So DraftKings has surprise, surprise that l A Clippers at a plus six hundred right along with the Golden State Warriors. They're both odds on favor to win. You can throw Boston in there with the plus six hundred as well, Brooklyn with the plus six fifty, Milwaukee with the plus eight hundred, Phoenix with a plus nine hundred, and to round out the top ten, Philly with the plus fift hundred.

I want to talk about this real quick, Jack, before we get out of here. Doc Rivers was seen on TMZ and they're asking what's up about James Harden and he was, you know, saying everything positive he could think of, because I think he remembered last time when he spoke on Ben Simmons all the drama cars in the off season, Jack, do you think James will get a MAX from Philly or do you think he'll leave the team some flexibility to be able to go out and grab another another star.

And listen, we understand the game. We know we're going behind the scenes. This guy is there more. He's there, this guy. That's the only reason he went there every when it was this time, to be there with his guy to secure the bread. I know what he was doing. He knew he had to play his best. He knew he was gonna get that brand. And from his guy. Of course he's gonna get that bread. He gonna get

it right there from this guy. The guy he ran over there too, the guy that's coddling him, the guy that's letting him playing whenever he wants to, and play as hard as he wants to when he wants to. That guy, the same guy he was in with in Houston that he didn't win with, the same guy in Philly that he hasn't won with yet, that's the guy he wanted to. That's the guy that's gonna pay. So

is he do you think? You know? Obviously he's been able to acquire a ton of money and and the goal of players is to get as much money as you can while you can. Knowing that he's accomplished every individual accolade you can accomplish, with all scars and scoring titles and and triple double records and ship, do you think he takes every penny on the table or he leaves a team some flexibility to go grab another star.

If I'm James, I definitely um get the most I can and still put my team in a position to get better. But at that but I don't think he. I don't think he's going to do that, you know I I think You're gonna get the maximount he can and and see if him and him and m B can do it by themselves right there in Philly and if I lose and that, hey, I'm still I'm still in Philly, enjoying myself, dream chases, Still rich as fuck.

Closing thoughts. Uh, to me, what makes the NBA continue to grow is that even though the championship has been decided, it'll still be the talk of the summer because there's gonna be so much but there has been in the past, so much movement amongst star and key players. Probably the biggest storyline this offseason, Jack will be your boy Kyrie? What will he do? The Nets sound like they're fed up. They said they want someone who's ready to, you know,

to put basketball and the team ahead of themselves. We all know when Kyrie is focused and locked in the game, there's not five better players on the planet, Uh than Kyra and than Kyrie. You've heard these rumored to the Knicks, Lakers, and Clippers. Uh. What do you think will happen with Kyrie Irving this offseason? You tell any grown man to put the basketball before their health first, they should look at you crazy me personally, Bro, if it's over there,

I would love to see him back with Braun. I mean, I hope that happened. You know, they didn't. They didn't made up publicly and privately, and Um Kyrid and came out soon as the seam was over and said he wouldn't mind, you know, he wished you could fix some things and and listen more to Lebron. So I think that would be a good look for him. L ain't got all them problems that New York had. It will

be a new start for him. And he got a crib in l A. So it ain't like it don't like he's not like he don't be out there anyway. That's where he worked out there. So it is what it is. Man. Uh, whatever team you go to, he's gonna help him. And I'm gonna always you know, you know, I'm always rock with It'll be interesting to see if he leaves. Uh the nets Um obviously player and powerman were all for that. But what it took for them to put that team together. He personally is the reason

why Kevin Durant went to Brooklyn. Uh, James was in and out of there, got up out of there. Uh you know it's but to me just the question is and this is again not hating on nobody, because everyone teams like when you say something you don't agree with his hate. Is basketball going to be a priority to him, because again, like I said, when he what it is,

he's incredible. But you've seen, you know, to his own admittance in Cleveland, he was a little too immature to handle the situation where bron goes to Boston, it doesn't work there. Uh, goes to Brooklyn doesn't work here. Also heard that he was throwing um practices after practice. Uh, you know outside of Steve Nash. And you remember when Steve Nash was you know what what it was the coach when they announced it, you know, Kyrie came out

and said, like, you know, we coach ourselves. You know, Katie can coach, I can coach so kinda and we both know that respect in that locker room is what you need. So that's why I don't know if going back to the Nets um is a possibility because I just don't think there's any respect for the head coach UM. So Kyrie could be on the move. Imagine him coming to the Lakers. I'm sure that trade would involve Russell Westbrook.

That means Russ would head back to the to the Net, to the Nets to reunite with k d could be really interesting man. And then again we talked about earlier what he would do with uh Kauai and PG could be scary as well. So uh, he'll definitely be the first domino UH that will kick off. I'm sure what is gonna be a crazy uh NBA free agency summer. Kenny Atkinson decides to walk away from being the Charlotte

Hornets um head coach. The numbers weren't specified, but I heard it was a four year deal and uh, you know, I think on average coaches again, in four years twenty million. They could have possibly offered him more, but Jack, he left twenty million on the table. Uh, you have an emerging young superstar in UH ball Miles Bridges, a lot of young key pieces thoughts on him turning down that job and decided to stay in chair number one UH in Golden State. I get it. I get it. I

stayd as number one CED a year too. I'll get you know, another option might come around, but for now, I'm comfortable being on this team to see in this next run that we've been to go on. It could be a two, it could be a three P two P, that could be anything. But I think he wants to sit there and experience that and after that's over, maybe explore another job, because I'm pretty sure to come around again. Yeah, no,

I think I agree. I mean, I think obviously he would have the keys in Charlotte, but building everything is that that's gonna take a lot. And you know, it's you know, there's a pecking order in the East. You know, although the old is to make it, you know, there's no real shot at winning the championship in the next five years in Charlotte. You know, maybe he knows something we don't. You know, maybe he know he ain't the coach with Charlotte, Yeah, but he maybe he knows something

Golden State. You know, maybe you know Steve Is is going to ride off on the sunset when Steph decided to step down and he can either be next in line or like you said, possibly get in line for a better job than Charlotte. Uh So man turns down twenty million to stay with the winning organization. To me, it just says a lot about the organization, you know what I mean? Golden State has built something built on principle, starts at the top with ownership, and it trickles down.

And when I tell you, man, it's just beautiful to be a part of. I definitely understand him turning this move down. Well, since Atkins is turned down this job, one of your favorite coaches to ever grace the floor. Mike D'Antoni is supposed to be meeting with m J about that vacancy. His offense could work there, But you know one thing he doesn't do his has his team played defense? Jack, what do you think about Mike D'Antoni possibly being the head coach of Charlotte Hornets. That's how

you feel. It's so many young coaches of all races that cycle that that that are not Dannfoni, that hasn't won nowhere everywhere he's went. He the kids know how to score. You need to understand how to play defense and how to be on the same page on the string on defense. Nobody needs Dannfoni. And Damnfoni as corny as he is, as as disconnected from the culture as he is, how could he coach Miles Bridges and and and and and LaMelo ball is not gonna work, MJ.

There gotta be somebody around it to to get you in. But like, bro, look at this and look at this you can. You can look at that and tell that don't go together. So please don't do that. Please don't do that, Charlotte, because I'm trying to come to some games this year and I don't want to see Dannfoni over there the season though, man. And then I'm gonna tell you what it's gonna do. LaMelo gonna go off on him. Then you're gonna have problems with LaMelo because

he want to win. And then what's gonna be next. Somebody gonna be asking for trude these guys for foreseeing the future, I think, you know, email Udoka has showed that we need to give. Why do we continue to recycle coaches that haven't won anywhere? And all? Yeah, I mean I'm I was a fan of Mike dun Tony's offense when it first hit, but I think that ship has kind of died out. Like you said, Jack, these kids coming in the league now could score. That's what

they do. They score. They need someone who's gonna bring the best out of them, who can be a leader and who can help them, you know, strategize on the defensive end, because you've seen, you know, the top two defensive teams in the league played in the finals this year.

You know that's definitely not Mike D'Antoni. So I think, you know, we've got to stop recycling coaches in the league and giving some of these young up and coming former players that have their ship together opportunities because we continue to show left and right, um that they're worthy of the opportunity. Moving on, Bradley Beal says he's healing from his wrisk surgery, and we're also starting to hear

a little bit of possible movement. Someone who has stayed loyal similar to Dame Lillard stayed loyal to the soil in d C. You know, but there's there are some toxic he could possibly move. He can sign a super max there if I'm not uh mistaken with the Wizards. But jack Off Bradley Bill were to get up and move cut ties to d C. Where could you see him fitting in at everywhere? Anywhere? Right, It don't even matter,

you know what I mean? I think going to Portland would be a good look for him, having him a Dame together. They said him him going to UH labels the possibility and him going somewhere else was a possible. But it don't matter. Man, anybody that can get a guy like Bradley. Bill is getting the all star, top player in the league that's gonna come in and put up numbers and compete on both ends of the ball.

So it's win win with him. I think him going to Miami would be big because Jimmie Butler could just kind of fall back into I don't have to score be the leading score, but I can score if I need to. And then also imagine, you know, James Harden is is it one of the best playmakers in the game still even though he's not scoring. So imagine Bill Harden and then beat in Philly. Uh uh would be real scary. So happy for this dude, man, I hope he decides to you know, you only have one career.

And I know he's a good kid and and wants to stay loyal, but you know, if he wants to win, it's not going to be in DC. Remember that game in Philly, Well, Bill had fifty and Bey had like forty six something like that. That was crazy. Nobody understands. But like you said, Bill's canna help anybody. Jack. NBA

Draft is Thursday. The latest mock draft has come out and they have Jabari Smith going number one, check Hole Gring going number two, Polo going number three, and to me, one of the most interesting prospects in the draft Jaden Ivy going number four. Thoughts on those guys. You got to see a couple of them, uh in the Alice iverson Classic, Yeah, I can. I'm good friends with Markets Daniels Jabari Smith from coming from Arburn. Marquis telling me this kid is ready athlete. Good kid can do a

lot of things on the court. So I'm not surprised see number one, you know, taking Market's advice, Chet and Apollo, Um Man, these kids gonna be great. Chet is long. He hungry, though, Bro, he really wants to learn the game of basketball and be the best best he can be. I saw him at the fight, the Charlo Fight in l A and Polo, Man he has he has an NBA body already, you know, and he has the confidence as well. Um he wants to be great also, man. So both both of those kids gonna be great in

the league. The draft is gonna be exciting. One person that I processed you don't want to touch on again is Jade Nivy. There's a lot of John Morant comparisons and Sacramento as we stand now, excuse me, as they stand now, we're sitting in that fourth position. Obviously they've chosen Dear and Foxes as as the you know, the the driver of their team by trading Haliburton last year. But you know, I say this to say I say that to say, you know they missed on Luca a

few years ago. Drafting market, Marvin Bagley, I really hope that Sacramento is not going to look back two or three years from now and seeing Jay Nivey terrorized the NBA, like, damn, we could have got Ja Nivy. So we passed on Luca and j Nivey. So Sacramento sitting in that tough for position again because they have a point guard. But you want to pick with the best talent that's left on the board, and if the draft goes to the state, he's the next best talent, could be even higher up.

But you know those three you mentioned before really good. So it'll be interesting to see what Sacramento does um with that fourth pick if they end up trading it away anybody else in the in the draft, Jack that uh intrigues you or you're happy for? Yeah, man, it's it's a care from my hometown. Put off the Texas that went to Louisiana Louisiana Tech. He's been um making a lot of noise and all the NBA Caps Kennon

Lofton Jr. Big man left. He can real agile on his feet, can score, can shoot and do it all. And he had a great year in college. So they got him prospect to go twenty five to the Spurs. But the kid is steady having having a good summer. Something happy for him, and I definitely want to see him in the league because he'll be the second from Port Author. That's dope, is that Kenny Lofton, son of the baseball player through the third third part? No, um no,

that's not that's not the same. That's not about to say like, how the funk is your dad so small and he got so big? Yeah, now that his dad o g from Port Arth to take us. Man, all right, man, best of luck to all the upcoming draft ease in this draft that's coming Thursday, and we'll see y'all out of the summer league. Y'all gotta come sit down and

chop it up with the old man. But man, you can catch what's Burning available every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube and on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok at Show Basketball pe See y'all next week.

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