Kelly Oubre | Ep 59 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball

It here, man, I can't call it just chilling. Just got back from Arizona with the Twins for a little au tournament. Now it's my off week, kick my feet up and catch up on life. Man. Everything good out there, Everything good, man. We get ready to go home for holidays. But how did the boys doing the tournament? They won the championship, man, So we went out to Arizona, did our things. So we gotta head out to Jail's having a tournament in Dallas, UM next month. That will be

like the top five teams in the country. So we got a chance to work around and get number one. So I'm looking forward to it. I might gotta pull up anyway, man. The newest Golden State Warriors were both a fan of this young player, very talented, exciting, light skinned killer. Welcome Kelly, you right to the show man. Thank you for your time, Thanks for having Golden State Warriors.

I mean that that's something Jack and I know you know a lot about That's where you know, our brother Our brotherhood began in two thousand and seven, and then I was fortunate enough to go back in seventeen and win the ring before I left. But man, tremendous organization, top notch. We saw you messing around with our guy Raymond ridd before. What has it been like, I mean, what was the experience from Damn? I got traded from Phoenix to Okay see and the next thing you know,

now I'm in Golden State. What was that? You know, seventy two hours? Like, man, it's been a whirlwind. Obviously, you know the business of basketball, it could be you know, very just anxiety. Feel you don't know what's going on, you know, with your future. But at the end of the day, man, everything happens for a reason, and you know, maybe sitting here with Fourrior's shirt on is is for a reason. So you know, I'm trying to make the

best out of this situation. Have you got a chance to talk to any of your new teammate chet, Yeah, I actually been in for the past two days, just checking in. Steph reached out via text before I actually met him in person. Draymond reached out yesterday. Um, you know, and everybody who is in town, I've been able to just check in with. So just trying to samously transition over here, you know, to to just flow with these guys in this locker room. Hey, one thing I love

about the organization. You know, I played for a lot of teams. I want championships with other teams, but they're gonna they make you feel like family dolls. They make you feel appreciate it and make you feel wanted. And one thing about it, we men mad know what you're gonna do on the court. So you're gonna be just fine, bro, because they're gonna make sure they take care of everything else. I look at you too. Man's people who lay at

the groundwork for just that. The nineties eighties basketball era. You know, even when you guys weren't necessarily in their eras to injur careers. Man, So that whole energy of just being a hard nosed and going out there and not really taking any ship, but also just being professional about it all has just been kind of something that I've been blessed to know that guys have already done that, and obviously like the pair of lot of fire and a lot of passion. So I'm in the hope gonna

take care of yourself. It's just about the energy and the relationships. Yeah, I appreciate you. You have a lot of fun. Well where were you at when you heard the Clay Thompson news, because you know, kind of whether it was directly connected or not, that's somehow to me. I think how you ended up going to Golden States, So where were you at when you heard that? You know, after tearing his a c L rehab and be ready to go he tears his achilles. I was at the house, man.

It was just that same window. Nobody had reached out to me from Okay See just yet, so I just kind of figured something was in the in the wind going down. The next day, Uh, Sam Prescy actually called me and said that I'm gonna be moving to Okay see um and that he just wanted what was best for me in my career. So I mean, I respect him for calling me and telling me that he was looking to move me just because you know, they had

other plans for their team. And then obviously I get the news from my honey cam he said that Clay went down. So I kind of got adjust that. Some of the Warriors organizations call pretty soon after that. But you know, I wasn't trying to put too much, too much faith and too much hoping that because I can't control anything. But I mean, all in all, they did call. So yeah, as as players, even even as players, is

not even in the game no more. When we hear news like that about Clay, it's devastating, bro, because the NBA it's really not the same without a guy like that, you know what I'm saying. So you know, what, what what what that happened? And I know everybody around the world, especially basketball players, you know, he was like, damn man, not again. Yeah, man, I can't wait till he get

back straight up. See y'all y'all together up my guy. Yeah, that would be scared, I mean, especially you know, especially with it was bad luck. You know, I mean for him to go down in the finals and then take the full amount of time to recover, which people don't do too often. You know everything you're hearing. You know, we had Steve Kerr on the show earlier in the year talking about, you know, Clay's back in the mix,

he's looking good. And then, you know, less than a month before training camp, you know, something like this happen. So we're definitely sending shout outs to our guy, Clay get better. I got a chance to talk to him, you know, the other day fleet on I g So, you know, praying for the best, but you know, the team has to move forward. So you know, they loaded up at that position, brought you in, so you're gonna have some fun out there. Yes, sir, let's let's take

it back to your early years. Grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana. What was that like? New Orleans? Was it was? It was? It was tough, man, I think boom, Yeah. You know, right before two thousand and five, we had really just moved out the you know, out the out of uptown. We moved pretty pretty much from the whole Project Field area to the east and like, if you know about it, the east is where like East Over is, That's where

Burman lived, That's where you know, currency lives. So I didn't live in that neighborhood, of course, but I lived, you know, down the street. But we had a pretty substantial, like you know, middle class life, but head it was very new. And then it all got wiped away um as soon as two thousand five hits, so you know, I had to go through the struggle once again. But it was just all in all, man, a humbling experience from me because I knew where I came from ever,

and you know, I credit New Orleans. I always called New Orleans the place that you know that pretty much raised me because without that adversity, that wouldn't be I'm from Port Author, that's like five hours away from you, bro, and everything we go through the same, We go through the same things. We were devastated too. But a lot of people from New Orleans came from New Orleans support

artor to Texas. You know what I'm saying, when when all this was going on and a lot of people don't understand how people lives was just shifted, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm to my overnight, I'm to my Matt. I had people coming to me. He was talking about Burtman. I'm talking about the Gutta Gutta and little Mario on them they pulled up to me, I'm talking about their hands would look like they were

playing in swamp water for weeks. Bro. They had calluses all that just for just us to survive, to get out of that, to get to Texas. Bro. So like just just just just what people should really understand what everybody New Orleans went through around the time, and to be able to come through that and survived, you know what I'm saying. You gotta salute them, man. So look

the Texas though, man for just opening their arms. Although it was it was a lot of stripe going and back and forth, two cultures interminglingd but Texas really held it down. Man. You got to appreciate the people who could help another city out and then really house them and just allowed them to be a part of the airs. Man.

So salute it. It's a big enough as state. Uh as a nine as a as a nine and ten year old, talk to us what it was like about, you know, Hurricane Katrina, and what your thoughts were at that age. You know, I have kids are a little bit older than that, but I couldn't imagine having to just completely uproot on our all of our ship is gone, and we gotta go to a whole another state. As a nine and ten year old, what what what was going through your mind at the time, It was a lot. Man.

I didn't really know what was going on because nobody really told me nothing. All I knew was the day before the eye of the storm hit and my dad told me to pack up my stuff and we're about to get out of here. And then I was just thinking we shouldn't go on the road trip, come right back home. But all in all, we went to Houston, and you know, it's a lot of uncertainty for me, and I couldn't do nothing financially. I couldn't do nothing emotionally to like really help my dad out. So that

was that's what stuck. That's that's my motivation to this day. Like I remember feeling like lost and stuff that I couldn't do nothing to help my family. And that's when that's really when I turned up and was like, all right, I gotta be somebody in life to help my family so we don't go through this again. So I mean that that that those years man really stuck with me forever. So he transitioned to Houston, Texas two thousand thirteen. You commit to Kansas. What was it about Kansas over the

other schools that that that drew your attention. I mean, Bill self was somebody that was there. You know, he had a great system and play. I didn't look. I didn't go on no other visits. Um. You know, I went on one visit late nine in the fog, and it felt right. But at the end of the day, you know, it was a plan to for me to utilize a big program to get to where I wanted

to get to. You know co self, you know, he seemed to be bought in at first until I got there and then played the first nine games in my college career, so it kind of threw me for a look. But like I said, everything is a learned experience, man, and I learned that everything ain't gonna be in it too. You you know, you gotta really go out there and work.

So that's real ship. So when you get there, you don't play the first nine games of your freshman season, going into that situation where you thinking one and done two years, what was your mindset because you said there was just gonna be a springboard to get off to me to where you're at. Now, what was your vision going into college? I mean I could kind of said I was feeling myself a little bit um, you know, I was projecting five and then coach Sell said, no,

you ain't nothing, you ain't ship. So I kind of it really humbled me, man, and I can only I have the ultimate respect for him for not giving me anything easier or handed to me. So but at the end of the day, you gotta he gotta play his cars too, and you know all I see the business of it. But yeah, that was one of those things that really knocked me back because when I got to Washington my first year, I didn't play at all. So you know, it was something that got me ready for

the league for real. A lot of time, A lot of times when coaches see something made that you don't see, or see stuff that you need to work on, or the player you need to be to get to where you want to go. I know, me, I didn't go to college. So my kind of transition like that was with Popovich. I was a rookie All star almost. I was like top two or three is scoring with at

all rookies. Didn't I go to San Antonio my second year and don't play at all to my sitting on the Angels the whole year, you know what I'm saying. But it was a learning experience because the next year when I came back, all the stuff he was teaching me about playing defense to keep you on the court and all that. I went hard on that times ten

and I had a long career. So I'm glad that you got the mindset and you look at it, at everything as a learning experience because that that shows how far that that you're gonna go, real far, you know in this game. Appreciate that, man. Yeah, well that's what That's what people don't understand. I mean, you know, us being able to play, you know, fourteen fifteen years in

the league, it's never really about that. I mean, obviously talented was to get you there, but it's it's your mental approach and being able to hand to understand situation. You know, my first three or four years, I didn't play at all, you know what I mean. Excuse me. My first year I played, and then once I traded the Philly, I said on that bench and it was dark, you know, because sometimes doubting yourself, questioning, yourself, working extra still not getting a chance to play, just like you

know what then do I gotta do to play? Um? But that's where really, that's that's where some people go left and some people never come from that, man, So salute to you for you know, holding it down in and fighting through the storm. So you get drafted theft pick overall to a to a young up and coming

team at the time with John Wallen Bradley Beale. What was it like playing alongside of those two elite guards coming into the league For you, it was amazing, man, you know five and and be They really just like our two dudes who like gonna get it, like they just gonna get it no matter what, no matter if the odds are stacked against them, no matter what people

are saying about them. I watched those dudes, man, just shut up all the naysayers man like for real, and it gave me the motivation and really want to do the same to just throughout my whole career consistently like no matter what, they just continuously with themselves and they just shut up everybody that's ever doubted them. So I think that energy from those two men will always stick with me too. Because I learned from the two of the two of the most solid individuals in the It

was the blessing. It was a blessing in disguise, man, because I really just soaked up all the knowledge I can get from them. You know, That's how you gotta take it. That's dope. So what was your you said your first year you sat, you started getting the rotation? Your second year, what do you what do you feel like You're welcome to the NBA moment? Was was it, you know, something you did to somebody, somebody busted your ass, Like when did you realize, like, oh, shoot, I'm here

now I'm in the mix. Gerald Henderson Philadelphia seventy sixers, Man, I gotta still. I gotta still, man. And I baptized him and I looked at they bench and smiled and I was like, damn, Like I felt good. So like every time, you know, I would do something like that, I would just smile and just like all right, let's get it. But it was that because he was a big bully man, you know what I'm saying. He had he and like he was trying to intemigrate people. But

like all salute to him. Man, he really did play hard and then you know, it was somebody that I kind of respected throughout my time growing up too, so to be able to bless him was amazing. Feeling you caught something. You are some big guys to Hey, he did dunked on some big fellas. He just catching guards like he one stepping big fellas too. May Yeah, everybody so nasty. That's he's a setting foot hunter. So you got early uh, you know, playoff experience with Washington Wizards.

Um what was that experience? Like you know, your one year in college, you're throwing in the fire. You first year you don't play, you start getting in the mix and then you're automate. You're in the playoffs, the highest level of NBA basketball. What did you learn, uh and take with you from those early years in the playoffs? Um Man, I learned that the playoffs is where you need to get to. Is the eighties two games season

is amazing? You know, yeah, but if you're not in the off season, what did you do during that whole eighty two game season and you know, getting to the playoffs. I just felt the energy. You know that you gotta know that the energy and that playoffs is different, like you see T shirts on the on the chairs and the arena. You know, the fans are first sure gonna pack the house and like you have to come to

play every game. So you know, it was something that I really just always feeling for that and I want to get back to the playoffs, you know, as bad as bad as ever now because I need to. I need to feel that energy again because that's where their leader to compete. Absolutely. So almost two years to the point where you were traded from Washington to Phoenix. Washington team in the playoffs, going to Phoenix, where a team

that's trying to find an identity. Beautiful city. I love it out there, A young star in Devin Booker who you came in the league with it and it'd been playing against. What was it like to understand that, like that was really your first taste of the business, Like, damn, they drafted me, now I'm off to Phoenix. What was that experience like for you? Man? Every everything, you know, every trade that I've been a part of, Man, it's really just been like like, like what's the moment for real?

Because you know, in Washington, I got traded after the Brooklyn game and all my teammates crowded around me and was just you know, consoling, like they come into you know, pretty much my need because they knew that I was a young kid who really didn't understand the business of it. So you know, I appreciate Mark Keith, John Brad everybody who really just helped me out through that first trade. Uh. And you know, I get the Phoenix, and I'm I'm motivated to really just show that I don't ever want

to be traded again, like for real. And I get the Phoenix, and you know, it's all love from the city, from the organization, from the franchise, and you know, obviously, you know I got traded two weeks ago, and it was another moment whereus I had just had a killer workout too, Like I was just feeling really good showing him and I'm about to go off this season. And then you know, after my workout, I come out and

everybody like, yo, check Twitter. I'm like, I don't look at I ain't even look at no Twitter, man, y'all just tell me where I'm going, like That's what I told Frank Kaminsky. And then you know it was just like damn, like I keep getting moved. But at the end of day, it's the business. So you know, I'm here in this situation right now, man, really just trying to fight for a home, you know, a longevity to stay somewhere. So it's a business. Definitely find it the

way you're playing. I mean, I think you came into your own I see you show flashes with the Wizards. I think in Phoenix you really found some footing alongside with Devin Booker. How fun was your brief experience playing alongside him, because you guys really made some noise for that team. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. Man, It was a lot of fun to be able to It felt like high school again for us, you know,

class team. We've been competing in the y b L against each other for you know, for the longest, so it was just it felt like, you know, we were able to do something that you know, we always wanted to do. Unfortunately, like, yeah, it's a different scenario now. But at the end of the day, we we both are hoopers. So you know, for me to be with him, you know for those two years and learned that, you know, he was a franchise guy there. He put into work and he put up the numbers and everything to be

who he is. It just showed me that I'm not too far. You know what I'm saying. I gotta keep working because at the end of the day, I see my peer who was really doing you know what, I something that I would love to do, and I'm gonna just keep working, just keep my head down. But at the end of it, I was there too, you know, be a supporting role in in that cast, and at the end of the day, like, that's the way I got to continue to just work. You touched on him

being a franchise player. What did you see day in day out? What did you learn from him? Um, because he's one of the young bright superstars in the game. You're on your way to getting to that to that level, But what did you learn from him working with him on and off the court for two years? Man, It's just you know, it's about the approach to the game.

You know, it's about the approach to the game. He's gonna go get his like, he's gonna go make sure that he shows each and every person who would ever have anything to say about him that this is what I do. I get buckets, you know, and I do I do it very smoothly because I'm good at it. So you know, for me, it's about going out there and getting stops on the defensive end and getting buckets because I'm a two way player, so you know, I

can i can bring that to the table. And you know, I really salute to him, you know, for being you know, just a professional and just coming out the mud from the Phoenix team and trying to you know, make some shape for the city. Yeah. I saw when they said they were trading CP. I was like, damn, I know

Kelly has to go in that trade. But if you would have got a chance to play with CP book and and and the big fell out there, man, that could have been you ain't going to State now, you know, you're going to a team that had went to the finals. Uh you know five, you know, one, three out of four championships. You know, arguably one of the greatest teams of all times that the win record. When it sinks, then like although it's not the same team, Uh, they've

they've battled through injuries. Now that you're a Golden State Warrior, what does that mean to you? Um, it just means that now that I'm a Golden State Warrior. Um. You know, we have to eliminate all doubts of any people that said that the Golden State Warriors didn't get the championships out of the mud like that. You know, all the

bandwagon talk and all that stuff. Okay, well, I am not of the superstar status of a k D, but I can be just as effective with this group of people because we can float together and work together to achieve one goal. So that's that's really my my mind set here. I want to eliminate all doubts about how how great this organization is and how they have already laid the foundation to be great in the future. So that's it. I want to bounce back a little bit.

Uh last season, bubble, Um, you get hurt going into the bubble you were sidelines. What happened because I didn't really get the chance to hear. I know you did something to yourknee, But what happened and how did it happen? Yeah? I told my meniscus um, I right, my right meniscus um, and I had to get surgery right before the COVID

and the quarantine and stuff happened. So I get surgery um around in March, and then everything shuts down and I'm continuously rehabbing with the team at the facility, but

I can't come in anymore due to the COVID. Uh, So I had to rehab from home and like just get get right on my own, which was cool, like I'm always able to adapt to just different circumstances, but the mental clarity for me to go out there and compete at a high level, and especially after season and I just came off of I really didn't feel right going into the bubble and another uncertain trial run to just go all out and try to help this team.

But at the end of it, I was there to support there, to give all my energy to them and you know, help them in any type of way to win, and they went aid no, still didn't make it. So I feel as if even if I would have played, it would have kind of just put me in a position tour. It's like all Kelly you Braids is having been working Kelly you Braids and where he was before

you know, everything stopped. So it was a lot of cons over over the face of that time that I just didn't I wasn't comfortable with dealing with at the time. But I'm back now. So no, you definitely made the right decision. Like I said, I credited Clay earlier that Clay took his full time. That's the one thing you can't listen to the whispers in the bullshit, especially when

it comes to coming back from an injury. Obviously, the goal of the team is to get you on the court as fast as possible, but you have to understand your your own business and beyond this team. You got a full fifteen, hopefully twenty year career play, so it's always important, even something with the meniscus. Meniscus was the only knock on wood surgery I had while I played, but I took the full time, you know, coming back.

And still even when I took the full time coming back, I didn't feel right because I came back right before the fucking playoffs when I was with the Lakers. I'm just like, yo, I've been out for eight weeks now and I don't even you know what it means. So luckily nothing that came of that. But I definitely think you made the right decision. Man, you gotta make sure you take carself first, because that's that's the only way you're gonna keep making this money. And keep me able

to do the job you love, Thank you man. Yeah, for sure, I wanted to hope believe that, but I just, yeah, I knew for a fact, like I would rather just sacrifice, you know, me wanting to hope so bad than me being out here rehabbing and get right. So thoughts on the upcoming. Obviously you haven't got a chance to play for a while, so you're probably one of the ones that are excited about let's get this ship started. December

can't come fast enough. Yeah, I was on the call actually, uh, you know when we everybody voted and we made made the change, and I'm like, yo, let's get it, Like, but how are we gonna how are we gonna protect each other, you know, in this mist of this uncertain COVID time and that that's that's the only question that I had, you know, because there's some real stuff going on in the world. But at the end of the day, the energy of basketball is going to bring people more

happiness than you know, anything else going on. So I'm just ready to get out there and just start just hoping for the fans. And you know, COVID is taking the fans away a little bit too. So I just can't wait till we can get packed houses in arena so we could really perform. Have they explained to you, guys what it's gonna be like, because you know, obviously you're in California now and we're hot. We're about to shut down, they say, in the next couple of days.

So have they explained to you what game situations could possibly be like come December? Um, honestly, man, I know for a fact it's gonna be a percentage of fans, um, if any to start off the season. Um, it's gonna be a lot of trial in thereror to see you know, how we could do the COVID testing and all that stuff for the people who come to the arena. But as a basketball you know, as as as a league, we're gonna pretty much just keep everything moving and flowing

just like they always do. Um, you know, chevny two game season of course, which is ten games less than you know it's normally been, And we're gonna have a less preseason game so and we're gonna end a little bit earlier than if we were to start in January. So it's a lot of pros to everything, but we just gotta make sure everybody stay healthy because we don't want any outbreaks going on as we travel around the world.

So absolutely. And they also got to play in now while I was on the Jump last week, and they talked about the playing now. So now I think that's up to the number seven spot is up for grabs. I think seven to ten that there's like a little round robin tournament to get into the tournament, so it's gonna be I think that was the way the NBA trying to get a few more games and continue to

make that TV revenue grow. Jack, being a former Warrior, a city you're still loved into this day, what kind of advice would you give young grow about being in the Bay and what to expect. Man. One thing about it, You're not gonna find a city with more lawyer fans. I mean, you know, it's not gonna be too much different just because it's not in Oakland. But the city gonna love you, Bro. And one thing about it, we love playing basketball and I know you're similar, but the

atmosphere is going to bring the best out of you. Bro. I played in a lot of a lot of teams a lot of different states, but it's no city it's no fans like go to States. And on the flip side, like I said earlier, the organization Dog I had been through a lot for I came there, you know what I mean. This that was the first team out everything I've been through with the broad and this Strip Club stuff. As soon as I get there, don Nelson makes me

a captain. You know, I've never been a captain before this. This, this team relied on me as one of their star players. So this, this is the organization. Dog is probably by far my favorite and one of the top organizations to play for. But the city along with the organization, you'll never find them come together to get the support like you do as a player. There love facts show. I'm excited because I mean being a fan of the Warriors

and they're being a fan of your game. I know how much they're gonna love you because you play hard as the motherfucker. You dunk, you shoot threes, and you play defense like those are like there their three favorite things, you know what I mean. So I know you're gonna bring a lot of excitement to the city. Um, I'm looking forward to, like you said it, going back to somewhat normalcy. So you can really experience what that energy is like, not only on the court but off the court.

Because the energy off the court between those two cities out there, Oakland and l a are excuse me, Oakland and San Francisco. Man, the fan love is crazy. But just the environment and in the energy leading up to the playoffs out in the Bay and the sun starts coming out and the girls stay out, it's definitely something special out there, man. So we're definitely, like I said, a fan of you and a fan of the Warriors looking at looking forward to, you know, these next few

years for you up there. Appreciation, Thank you. Let me get better, go ahead and perform. Jack touched on it earlier. Plenty of highlight dunks. Is there a couple of them that stand out for you? Because, like you said, you got everyone from the smallest of the biggest in the game thus far. JaVale McGee was my favorite. I was gonna say, Javail Man. He's a big dude. He's a big dude, like very tall, Like you know what I I say. You know, it's out of block shots and time everything.

But you know I had a quicker jump than him and that in that Laker game, and then uh, the night after I get PG g G. Yeah, you body pg drillable. Yeah, I kind of I kind of made them a little salty, and I gave him. I gave him the advantage to by trying to, uh, you know, chase down block one of his dunks, which I shouldn't have did because it kind of like, you know, he

could feel itself a little bit. But at the end of the day and I'm here, you know, I'm trying to compete with the best, and you know I'm trying to be the best too, So that's really it, Like I'm just really trying to go out there and just punish motherfucker's. You want all the smoke straight up. You know, you're not someone who talks much on the on the court.

You let your plane do the talking. But you're someone who has these little antics when you dunk on motherfucker's with the blowing kisses and the push ups and the smiles. Where did that come from? Because, like I said, me and Jack with someone, if we dunked on someone or did something, we're cussing the motherfucker out talking ship. You

take the other approach, but it's just as effective. Yeah, Well, I mean I guess how much you could call like, you know, a competitor, but at the end of the day, like like a smooth ship talker, because that's just like some petty ship to get under somebody's skin for real, and then it ain't really like coming at you like YouTube would do you know what I'm saying, y'all would just let him know, like like I can't necessarily do that.

And it's this this era man, which I would love too, but I gotta just do it a different a different way. It got to be a little more smooth. So you know, I got what I'm starting to do. They started to pick up on it anyway and give me text for it. So I gotta figure out some other way to talk ship to now. So yeah, don't I don't, don't listen to Matt. Matt. It's an asshole. You keep you keep being a smooth asshole. Matt, just an asshole. Yeah, I don't think. I think I'm more light skinned and that

more dark skinned. Obviously, you know what it is. That's what it is. That ship is. Hey, hey, but real talk Jack. I would rather have someone talk shipped to me than like blow me a kiss or like smile because that makes it man, because I know that's like instead of instead of punching someone, you slap him, Like that's disrespectful. This fun, uh, you know, Jack and I kind of caught the back end, back the tail end of it. But social media is so prevalent in today's game.

You're very active, you have a large following on it. How important do you feel like having a balance between obviously your professional but still staying active on social media is? To you One of the best blessings that I've ever had was to meet, uh, like, one of my best friends, Cam Beverley, who you know, he is my you know, my videographer. He is my credit director to my brands, so you know, he really runs the majority of my social media. You know, your post for me, you'll check

my interactions, insights, you know. And all I gotta do is really whip up captions and send them to him. And it's just from music and songs that I listen to. So it's really an easy flow. But I know, I know the important su getting on the social media aspect of everything so that I don't stress myself out looking at comments and all that extraness. And you know, I

could just keep flowing and living my life. But you know, social media is something that we all need just to build our brands and other than that, like I don't see it being anything else. Like I'm not on there just to have fun or look at nothing. So I just try to use to get money. For the origin of tsunami poppy Where that name comes from? What does it mean? Well, tsunami um is an upgrade from a wave um. You know, it's just the flows of life,

flows of energy. You know. I try to adapt the water for real, just like Bruce Lee said, And that's where that's where you know, the tsunami, the wave, the water, all that, all that double entire just come from. And you know, I just try to adapt, like water man, life comes at you in full circle. You never really know what the hell we're gonna happen the next day. But you know, as long as you adapt to the times and you adapt and make sure that you come

out on top, that's what everything is about. So it's really like a triumphant character. And I'm trying to just create, you know, somebody that people can look up and then realize that damn I could. I could really do this too, you know. I could be somebody you know, when in the in the darkest times of my life. So that's where that comes from. Man, I don't really I don't do it for people to call me poppy or nothing like that. But I do see a lot of my

little kids in the league, you know, coming in. You know who appreciate the wave. I'm gonna say that. You know a lot of people appreciate the wave and they'll try to take the wave. It's one of theirs. So I just try to jump on top of and say I'm the father of creating ship and that's it. Yeah, Now you definitely a wave guard. A lot of people don't understand, man, it ain't on You got on? Is who is? Who got it on? I tell people at

all time. I tell my sons that. So yeah, you you definitely leading the culture in in a in a way new wave shout out to man. I appreciate he sent me a nice little box, uh his sweatsuits when it first drop, man, So that's love. And you know I had to support you know, you know, you're pretty boys. Got to support each other. Man. You pretty motherfucker's. You two pretty motherfucker's. It was on the move around that time, Man,

you stuff handled. I actually hit up to all the smoke podcasts and I just realized that I was gonna be able to hit mad up because I was in that lay at the time, so you know, you was working that I appreciate. That was love pretty bars connect that was uh I mean, and we touched on that. I mean, you just respect man. You you're flying with your ship and your movements the way you moved. Where did that style of fashion come from? Was that something

you're born with, something you picked up on? And if so, who was someone you looked up to in that space to kind of get you on your own wave? Man? I grew up I'm from New Orleans, so you know New Orleans has a culture about it that smooth jazz, uh French French esque. So I mean, I've always just

had that that type of drip in my blood. So for me to be able to like grow through high school, man, I was traded basketball shorts, hoodies and maybe put on the jeans pair of jeans with some Jordan's or something. But I never really had that that need for fashion or anything like that. But I started to get into it when my dad used to say, like the stuff that I used to wear. It wasn't polished. I used

to he's sound look homeless. But I used to be like, man, this this would make me feel good, you know what I'm saying. And I would just continue to push that mode of trying to push that boundary of what made me feel good man, because I mean, whatever I wear a dog, it's what makes me happy in that day. Like so, you know, and and when it comes to fashion, man, fashion is just a word at the end of the day.

It's about how you rocket, you know, how confidently you rocket, and then you know what, if you can get somebody else to rocket, That's pretty much what that is. Yeah. So in two thousand seventeen, while we're on the fashion tip, you you know, you made a cause a little controversy and league by wearing a Supreme Lake sleeve where they you know, they asked you to stop and then JR. Went and got us the Supreme thing tat it on his leg. How did that whole idea come about? And

did anything negative come from it? No? I told I mean I wore uh we played Brooklyn, I wore it in the game, took it off second half. They told me to take it off, I was gonna get fined. Uh, it was nothing, man. I was really just trying to be different, you know. I see they had the NBA logo on it, it it had Nike logo on it, but it just said Supreme. So I wanted to be one of the ones who did it um And then it definitely created a lot of a lot of media attention.

But I played terrible that game too, you know, so that it wasn't nothing like I felt like I was. I was doing a little too much too after that because I didn't played well and I was so focused on like just breaking the internet on some young young dude stuff that I it took me off from my game and that's not it. So it's real of you to see that. But did they send you any gear after that? I mean, you know, man, Jr got the whole photo shoot. J R got a photo shoot with

this man. It's seeing me nothing, man, but it's good. It's love. I still rock that stuff. So yeah, So thoughts on you know, when Jack and I came in the league, it was white five x white teas, baggy pants, and then it went to walkers and now it's to the game where it is now, which is at an all time I kind of feel like NBA steps culture. You know, when we switched the suit, you start seeing other sports and suits, you start seeing rappers and suits.

We kind of moved the needle when it comes to fashion. You're definitely at the at the forefront of that in the NBA. What if it has been your thoughts on the progression of dress from say twenty years ago to today. It's just it's it's really like it's an Evan flow though, because the way music change is the same way fashion change.

And if I think the NBA players, since we don't we ain't able to like go out and have songs that's on the charts to influence the whole generation of people, they have to look at what we got on and what we're doing and how we're acting on the court

to influence their music, you know what I'm saying. So nowadays it's it's more like the young young rappers who want to be rock stars, and you know, it's less of the real the real straight dudes really out there kind of get to it and sending their message out there. So I think that's the ebb and flow of it. Because the new generation of artists. They really they try to wear baggy type clothes, boot cut pants, um, just chains,

all this type of stuff. But you know, it all ties in together, you know it all it's fashion and basketball and music is all one and the same. For real, it's just a different field. So I mean, I don't know, I ain't goes. I don't know who really pushed the mold, but I know for a fact that you know, we're more visible than a lot of rappers when we come win this our season time, Matt, Matt, you said, we said twenty years ago. The motherfucker was only four or

twenty years ago, my bro. So yea, yeah, but he was talking and walking to board, but he was four. You think me somebody you know, maybe he was plat for but he didn't know what was going on, say ten years, but twenty years. You gotta remember we always bro for real, real ship. My bad. But I know he's seen what AI used to dress like, with the chains and the white teas and the do rag and the baggage fans like that. We had a they changed

to dress code because of him. Ye see where it came, to see where it came from, and to like him leading the charge Now, I just kind of want to feel with that Vidua was, Bro, that's it I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do something different, man. I mean, I'm gonna be rocking my own brand's clothes. Like you know what what you saw from Dope Soul is not what Dope So is. That was just something to get us on the on the on the on the scene. Um, you know it's real high end because so real embroidery, real

stuff like that. So I'm gonna try to switch that up, man, so everybody could be individuals man real. Yeah. Well, if you got if you got any fly ship for older niggas such as myself, you know the address already of course, man, for sure I might need to message this time. And also, happy early birthday, bro, you got a birthday coming up. Happy, That's what I'm saying. So you've faced you've been through a lot, man, You've been in the league. What are

you going to this come back to be your seventh year? Yeah, something like that. So you yeah, you've been You've seen all aspects of the game thus far. You know what I mean. You you you've been drafted fifteen SAT your first year, experienced success traded, really found your footing, traded again, now traded to Golden State where its styles like now

it's time for this boy to make his name. Up to this point, what has just been your whole thought process of the NBA, Like I said, experienced so much at a young age already, from being drafted to Washington and playing with John and Brad who when a time that I was with Brad, he was on the cusp of you know not he wasn't an All Star yet. And then I've seen John who was an All Star like continuously year after year in his like I wouldn't

saying his prime, but like in his real flow. And then I got to see Brad become an All Star and then John to take the back seat and not be an All Star for a year because if it's injury obviously, and it was just like yo, you know, you gotta just keep staying with it. You know, you gotta keep staying with it so that you can make a name for yourself, because it's about the collection of what you do over spend the time, not the collection

of what you do over one year, two years. So you know, I just gotta stay with it, man, because I want to win championships. You know, I want to be an All Star, of course, and you know all that, all that is a conversation in the formula for somebody to be potenional in the Hall of Fame. So you know, as as time ticks, man, you just gotta continue to stay with it. And if you know, God speed it my time don't don't don't tick like that in my favor.

At the end of the day, I know I got a lot of things going from me that I could just be a staple in this NBA. You know, before it's all saidn't done. Mm hmm. Now you stay on the path, you're gonna get. You're gonna get what you're looking for. Are be coming down the stretch to the final questions. These are just quick hitters. Whatever comes to

your mind. First, Um, toughest matchup you've had thus far in the lead and y Drew Holiday, uh dude, dude to everybody say this nigga name Man is a beast man. He don't waste no movements, He's strong and he's smart. So like, I really salute to him. One of my favorite players in this league. So yeah, mine, any artists you would like to be named dropped by. I'm gonna say, right, wave your way, right way, man, here the ghetto gospel singer for show Ye shout out, shout out right away, man,

nice man. If you were going to do an all fashion starting five for the NBA, obviously with you in it, who would be your other four counterparts in there? Jordan Clarkson, h James Johnson. Um, I'm gonna put Russ in there, Salute Russ Um. Who else? Man? I gotta get a big fella in there. Man, I'm gonna put DeAndre Aiden there. Uh. You know, I'm saying he'll he'll hear a fresh seven footer. He just don't be caring enough to be dressing up to games and stuff. But uh, and I'm gonna say D'Angelo.

D'Angelo got a smooth like smooth cats way. So yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all swag low ki remind me of each other. The way y'all you know, kind of just carry yourself and the way you can set step trends on and off the court. Five dinner guests, dead or alive to have an amazing night conversation with Michael Jordan Kobe. I need them to go at it so I could really pick their brain about what they're going at it about. I'm gonna go Prince. I want to lady to Dinna. You

might want to lay that down. You're right, You're right, You're right. I'm gonna go with my uh my girlfriend shot sho Okayah, I don't need know abody else. You might need a young rapper in the mix to do. That's what I'm trying to think of. But I don't want to sell because you know what I'm saying people, it'd be weird that, Uh, I'm gonna have to go with a somebody that's popping. I'm gonna go with a little Wayne Man show that alright, Jack, Before you ask

the last question, let me ask you this. Who's your top? We haven't talked too much about music, but I know you're really into who right now? Who are your top? You know three five artists that you have heavy in rotation. I'm gonna go Rid Wave obviously I said him earlier. I got young Boy on there. He's speaking of it's time. What's up top? Yeah, he's speaking in murder music right now. I need that energy, um, and I'm gonna go with

Rex Life Rod. He he's actually from the Bay, you know, and I encourage you all to listen to him if y'all haven't. Man, he really just he's like a like a preacher, you know what I'm saying. He could just speaking to things that you'll be thinking about. So Rex Life, Rode Man, shout out for Roger. Right, who do you want us to have on the show? Now? Before you answer this, whatever you're answer is, you have to be able to help us get them on this show. So who do you think should be on All the Smoke

for show? Uh? Who do I think should be on All the Smoke? Uh? Who has already been on All the Smoke? That's tough. That's a good point. Yeah, you know what, man, I really want you all to get

trying to get young Thug on the show. You know why, man, because like he he misunderstood and he's a leader of a generation for real life, and you know, I want him to be explained, like why he wore the dress, why he did all that extra sit But you know, at the end of the day, man, he makes some pretty different music and it's kind of fire if you really listen to it. Now, I I love Slie. I love. A lot of people don't know, a lot of people don't notice when I right, when he first started blowing up.

I had a house in Maybeleson. He drove. You know, I've been rapping for years. He drove, came to my house and did a song for me in my studio. So he always been a real but he always been a real with slime. I always been a real one man for shoot out, shout out always. So I want to thank you, guys man for shore No, thank you man, good luck, appreciate you. Great, great situation. You know, Raymond Ritter,

that's our guy, great guy man, great team. I can't say enough good things about that organization, man, So I'm excited to see you get to work with them this season. So good luck with everything. Bro. Yeah, and make sure you tell Mike Brown and Steve krist Say, what's happening. I got you for show show. Appreciate you, Geez love love b appreciate you. The newest Golden State Warrior, Kelly Bray.

We appreciate your time. Man. You can catch this on Showtime Basketball YouTube or the I Heart platform, Black Effects Podcast Network. We'll catch you all next time piece. This is all a Smoke, a production of The Black Effect, and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime