John Wall | Ep 32 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

Welcome back to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. Jack's good, bro my brother? How you doing our the main? Man, I can't call it. It's ugly out here, raining, nasty, stuck in the house. What y'all gotta going to well mover? It's sunny out here. We just can't go in the where when yesterday fed the ducks and walked, took a little walk. I go get some bikes and something, take a ride around the neighborhood. But yeah, man, you best you can get. That's still. I just need a little

bit of fresh air. What's up? What's your quarantine hair? Gray? Looking like you're looking like a slave. Nice like this? I was Eddie, Kay, let me see take take your hat off real quick. Oh oh yeah, you look like Dave Chappelle when he played the comedian and nutty professor. Yeah, yeah, it's time to ask I should struggle it too, if I should look like I should just be lame there. Oh my god, I thought you was on happy days when you took that thing first off. Man, You see

when it's just slip, but that that was kind of clean. Man. You gotta do the bones look sometimes and you see how click that should be bouncing back to life though. Yeah you got that. Yeah you got that ship down that you you anyway? Man, we got a special guest. So when I I've really enjoyed watching play playing against uh to me one of the best point guards in the game. Welcome John Wall. Go what's good? What's wrong with you? Man? Chilling man board watching all these NBA games, classics,

watching movies, TV shows, ship like that. How's the family? How's the family holding up? They're good? You know what I mean. You got a little one in the house, so he like want to get outside every day right around his little bike and run around. But other day he's just straight chilling. Talk to me about that because we got something of the same age. I got three

of them. You got your first talk to me about having a son and how that just changed your life, man um dis perspective, and everything I do now that's for him, you know what I mean. Everything I see before is for myself and my my mom and them, But now everything I do it for him. Like I don't even hang out no more like that, Mike, pick one or two days out of every two weeks to

hang with the guys. But I'm just I just had the opportunity to be injuried, so I got to watch him grow every day, you know what I mean, instead of being on the road and traveling. I wish I was playing, but just to watch him girl every day. And now he's fifteen months so he's telling me no, he telling me yes, he telling me thank you, He going downstairs to pick up the basketball. So that's all been a great blessing discouse with me. No, I know,

that's amazing. Man. Like I said, I got the same I got a fifteen month old two he running running the house. I know you're loving that. You also told us before that you got another one on the way. Man. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you, another little another little boy. Yes, he there you go. You're done. You're gonna, you're gonna try to get that girl. You're done straight. I ain't dripping, and I ain't trying. I keep trying to. I keep trying,

smart man, smart man. If I keep trying shoot for that and I might be six seven in, I ain't trying to. You don't want to do this? How much you don't want to do that? Yeah, Jess with Jackson when you are jack I got seven five five girls, two boys, okay, three more? You got ahold two teams you play. I ain't gonna. I've been operations shut down. I've been operation that's been done. So with us men,

Matt Win this media space now. And you know, when we were playing, the media used to twist our wards allow, used to make us seem like, you know, we were bad people and never really understood our passion for the game and just never really understood us. And I know you're dealing with your own side of that, with the media trying to twist it, make it seem like you and build don't get together, don't get along. I've been there.

I've got love from both of y'a. At the same time, I've seen the brotherhood when I can, when you brought me out there for the games. I appreciate that again. But but talk about talk about that and how the media can try to twist your words or try to make you out to be something you not. Oh, I think you got too talented young guys man like one guy that's been there before, the other one that's like the franchise guy, another guy that come into just his talent,

which its younger. We kind of already mentioned like we wanted. We both want to be started. People want to take the game when the shots. We both want to be talked about in the meet. We both want to be all this and all that. But at the end of the day, they always say, well they don't like each other. They did they downgrading each other, Like I ain't know John wall without Bradley Bill. Ain't no Bradley Bill without

John Waller. We make each other better, like we accompandiate yours so well on the court that it works easy for us. So like when I see the media try to say or they don't like each other, where he playing better without him? The ball the team's eating everybody moving the balls moving all this well in the day. Yeah, you're gonna play better when another star players not out there because you get more shots. Everybody's gonna give you the ball more like everything is predicated around you, and

we don't. We wasn't winning games, so it wasn't good for us. Like Brad was like, yeah, I'm getting my numbers, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but we're not winning games. Or when Brad is out for four or five games, Yeah, John Walt might take ten more shots and two or more shots and his numbers might go from twenty two a game and thirty two or thirty fourth to that stretch. But then my winning games or am I getting to the next level opportunity to get a chance win the

championship one day? No, I can never succeed that unless I'm playing with my brother made Bradley Bill. So that didn't really bother me when people are saying that, I said, that's good because you know, because as players, we know the relationships we have with our brothers. And then sometimes that's one reason why we're glad we got this show because we we didn't have that platform we were playing.

You know what I'm saying when when When I when I got to that brawl, everybody talked about me going in the stands and punching their fan, but nobody never rewinded to tape and see me first getting the stands. I grabbed her on our test and another beer was thrown in his face, So it was only right I would act that way. But now we have the platform to highlight these things, and I'm glad you spoke on

that because we have us as players. We know y'all relationship type, we know y'all brothers, and we know y'all want to rock with each other. Yeah, and that's what I try to tap anywhere, just to look back at, like y'all are I love that area? You know what I mean? Because I feel like that's what the league was really about. Like it weren't all about getting in the standard fight, but you were taking your brother. Somebody knowing something, your brother not gonna stand there and not

help him out. And now days in this new league, you've got so many guys that the way they called things, you can't be fel cool, you can't touch everything. The flagging foul. Now if somebody say something to your brother, bump your brother. You try to stand up for him, you might be suspending three or four games, like and you're like, you're like, you're like, man day, but I was gonna get spent through four games. I'm outa threw

a punch or something like. You tell so like when I so when I tell people all the time, I said, don't get me wrong, these young guys and all these people in his leading now is talent, don't get wrong. But I came in into the until you can still get clothes line, get bumped coming across that lane. If you breathe on somebody the wrong way, now you might be suspending on game. Like you take away from the physicality of the game, and it makes it so it's so hard for y'all guys that want to be physical

definnis to be able to guard these guys. Yeah that you can't do it no more, you can't do it. I mean, it's funny that you kind of caught the end, but we can't. Even when we came in and the jack jack you came in late nineties, I came in early two thousand's. It was more physical than that, you

know what I mean. If they've steadily decreased the physicality of the game, and to me, almost the competitiveness of the game because you have to walk the egg shows you have to worry about Damn if I put just push someone, am I gonna get kicked out the game and jeopardize my team? You know? So it's it's it's a different it's just a different time now, and I think we kind of have to to understand the direction

they're going. We talked about this with someone else as another guest, but you know, now it's all about scoring and all about offensive. It really favors the offensive players. They want to see three pointers, they want to see dunks, they don't want to see no good defense, they don't want to see those close ball games. They want to see highlights. And I think it's really taken away from

the essence of the game. Yeah, for sure. Like my even when I first got into playoffs, so I think like four team fitting in my first year and we're playing the Bulls first round and play Indiana like it was the first team at eight points won the game. Right now, it's like teams got eighty a half, like I was in one game we played Scramento this year, they had eighty seven and a half. I'm like, yo, this is this is if you got eighty seven, you're about to win the games. You have to make a

couple of free throws at the end, right. So, like you said, you just got to adapt to what the new NBA wanted, what the world wants. We want to back up a little bit. Um, you guys played Utah uh February and uh probably a week after that, almost ten days after that, the league was shut down because of uh, you know, Rudy Gobert contracting the virus. Do what was the energy and the vibe? Like once you guys kind of heard that and realized you guys you're

as a team hadn't played him that long ago. Well, when you get that and you start realizing how serious the virus was, you kind of thought like, oh man, everybody has to get tested, Like even me. I wasn't playing. I was on a beach. But like you know, when you interact with players dapping the month throughout the game or sad it up after the game. So you're all like, okay, take that focus of where have you been recently? Who

have you been around? And me not having a young son, I'm like, well you definitely have to get tested and make sure you don't have it, and make sure you're not passing long because at the time they were saying if you were elderly, older, or your immune system was up to bar strong enough, or you got a little baby, they got it. It's very ready and can fight it. So that's all I'm thinking about now in that aspect of making sure my family was straight, and then where

about myself after words? Because I feel like me is a healthy athlete and young I can fight it more than what a baby could. Talk to me a little bit about your work in DC in the community. I think it's something that goes unsung, but you really do a lot for that community. You're an advocate for the other teams, the baseball team, you you cheer on the w NBA team, you're at the games, but you really give back a lot. And I don't think we hear enough about that. Could talk to us a little bit

about what you're doing in the community. UM, I just have a have a place that I adopted called Bright Beginning. It's just like a place for like single moms that like don't have jobs and their kids and have opportunity to go to school, so we get them somewhere where they can live or they can they parts near the opportunity to go get a job, get some money putting their pocket and their kids and go get a degree.

I work towards the education. So that's big something I looked at because I like, I never had that as a platform going up. And I see so many homeless people out here, and sometimes these kids never actually be in a situation, but that's just what they're born and they can't control, so why not try to help them?

But one thing I always instill to myself and my mom help as a young kid, like if you ever want to be something like that, like let people remember you of what kind of person you are, just not as a basketball player. So like a lot of people like have these camps and do these charity events and get back, but they never present and I'm like, what's the point, Like let these people feel like the you're

normal just like them. So I like to be there through if I got event from seven hours, I'm different seven hours and interact and showing I'm normal like you. Anybody can throw any money or put their name on any little event or charity being like well, y'all did donate, well, okay, you donated, but sometimes these kids and these parents might not never get to see NBA player or a superstar

in a city. And that's what I probably myself off of, Like, yeah, the money is cool to get in there, but that's not what I'm doing it for. I'm doing it for to show these people that I'm normal just like them. And if you come from a Section eight or in a struggle situation, you can make it. You just gotta believe in yourself. I love that. Man, that's beautiful. We appreciate that. And like I said, it's it's always you

know what the bada rather tell that story? Would they rather tell the story that you're beef or they're they're making fake beef up about you and your team? Make So that's why I like Jack touched on it earlier. Man, we need platforms like this, having social media on our own to not so much because you don't do it for the recognition, but just to know that there we are doing good things out there. And when you know, the majority of time the media just wants to point

the bad ship out. Oh yeah, in fact, they're definitely gonna pick the bad stuff out of everything. So like I always tep home where they're like, well, you don't be doing this. You know that I said, I don't do stuff for the I don't need it for the cameras. Like a lot of stuff I did in the community, I never did it for the camera. Like good thing is like my team and my team have around me

and my Wizards organization. They wanted to put me out there on that platform and let people see what I'm doing. But for me, I was doing it for years, backpack giveaway for years and never was really talked about. But it doesn't matter if the camera show but not because these kids getting supplied, they getting booked bads to go to school and they get to hang out with John wal for a couple hours. So that was straight for

me and to touch on what we're going next. You remind me kind of that guy that I'm about to ask you about. You know what I'm saying you, They twitsched you. They don't know all the all the love you get in the neighborhoods and and the love you give back to the community. But Ai, you know you you talked about how you looked up to him. You got in the a our stories that you can give us. Man him, Yeah, man, my favorite story of all time, like is when I was coming out, you feel me

like everybody loved George. Everybody love all this when you come out of getting shoe deals and then want pick So I'm like, all right, Reebok off of your deal. I'm like, all right, cool wearing reboxes. I but you know me at this time and I air with social media it is I want to be in George and Nikes. And then I remember I was in Reebok. I went to take my visit there like to talk to him, and he y'all showed up, came out of nowhere talking to me for like talking to me for like two hours.

He was like, let's here, man, I know what you're going through. I know what you decide. And because I was the same person in them shoes coming out of Georgetown where my George doing all this. But he was like, why do I change the coachure? Like why not be yourself and start something in your own way? So once he said that, like I didn't even have he didn't

even have to walk me upstair. You can bring the paper down here, I'm signing like my like like my my Ida just came and talk to me and told me a reason why I can go this way and start them on rever Do, and they wanted me to, like, you know, rebot wasn't the same, and they just wanted to start open and see if they can build it back up, which is tough the way they business. But outside that, I was the reason why I was like, man, I'm gonna sign these papers forget what anybody else talking about.

So that was so that was like my dopest story for me, you know what I mean, Like, you know, every time you see ay now he grabbed your back in head and love you, You're like, nobody want to say, come on, you're doing too but like I'm grown man, like you gotta keep grabbing. He still do that to me. He still doing but he like still yeah so and and I seem to do to everybody. So I'm like, you know, you can't. Who can you say? Like you know you got older vests and you he doing this too.

But that was just a dupe story for me. That made me be like, you know what I got respected from from my item, you know what I mean? That that's all I really cared about the time being. That's what's something. Man. So you came up in a in a single parent household, your mom worked multiple jobs to to support you and your siblings. Uh, and you went through something that I went through, man, which was the

toughest thing I personally ever had to go through. I lost my mom to cancer in in in two thousand and seven. And really that was that was when you know, I would say, that's when Jack and I really we're already teammates. We fund with each other off the rip. But this dude was here from me every single day. Man, come to my house, check on me, called me, come smoke with me, bring me weed, bring me food. He was just there for me, man, you know what I mean.

So obviously condolences and rest in peace to your mom. Talked to us a little bit about that and and and how that affected you. It affected life as a whole, because to me, the pain never goes away. You just learned how to deal with it a little better each day. Yeah, talk to us about that. Well, that was like the

toughest for me anyway, you know what I mean. That's my best friend, Like I always talked to three four seven times a day, and all that so like when she was going through the whole process, it was just like damn, man, like you know what I mean, like hoping she can beat this because I lost my dad from cancer when I was nine, so I kind of

already knew how that route goes. And then it's like after my twenty twenty nine birthday, man, and she just started to get real more and more sick, like couldn't move and I had to stand there. My mom is one of those moms that, like, you know, get up five am, six am doing everything, everything is already done for you, go to school, what she go to work.

So when I started sitting again week and week, I try to spend as much time as I could with it every day or every time she came in town for a keymo or anything like that, just understanding that there's getting more serious now that she might not make it. And I remember she came to my birthday party and we had a blast and all that, and it was like the last time you see my mom smiling, and

I posted my pictures, So I did that. I started to get tougher and tough and I'm like still trying to go through my rehalf, but also make sure I spend much time with my mom because I don't know if this is it or not. And I remember I was like, I'm gonna come down there right after this and we play. We're about to play Charlotte, and it was like I think a Monday, we're gonna play Charlotte. And I was like, yo, you know what, I'm gonna

come down and play Charlotte. After the game, I'm gonna stay to night drive the I'm gonna see my mom for like seven eight days. We get out the plane, I land, I get back to I get to my hotel and I get a call like she had um. She had passed earlier that day but came back to life like they they pumped her back to life. And then she's on like a bent leke machine and I'm like, oh no, this crazy is over. Like I asked one of my homeboy they lived in Charlotte, and he drove

me straight like straight. Riley's like a three hour drive. I strove straight down and like just to see my mom on the on the bed. It's just it was definite thing. So like I passed out of fainting and then I'm like, yo, this really might be the last the last couple of days, I get to pee my mom. So literally every day from that day before, I never left the hospital, took showers in there, and spent the night in there, and it was just tough to see her.

But she kept fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting. Like and this is why I tell you what, Like people say they don't know our relationship between me and Brad because everybody was like, well, y'all don't get along, y'all don't like bro. When I got the phone called, the first person that came out of my hotel room the hang out with me was Brad like, come to hold me, like like, yo, you're my brother, Like what

you're going through, I'm going through. And after they played that game again, and after they played the game against Charlotte they lost, Brad didn't even get on the team playing. He drove down to be with me in North Carolina for the next two or through. You know what I'm saying.

So like I told to me that, like y'all think y'all know our situation, But he ain't had to do none of this had just been a teammate, it's bigger than who it could have been a teammate, and brother and be like you know what, man, he are, I'm gonna call on them leading now. He came to check on me, see my mom and like that this basketball stuff in tomorrow. We never fled again. Like that's gonna be somebody I called my brother because he was there

in the time when I was there. So yeah, like that was that was like the most difficult and still is. And like one thing that helped me is we got a guy to do chapel for his name passed the battle and I want to talk to him. My mom was real sick before she passed, and I was like, um, how do you get through it? Like how do you get any comfort? Like you know, you don't really feel comfort, You're always gonna feel that pain, but like you at

peace with her leaving. And when he talked to me like that and I want to talk to my mom one on one before she passing, did all that I knew she fought as much she becauld she was happy and she was like I'm at peace, I'm ready to go. That made it more easy for me to set my mom going even though you still had those pains and every day about it. Man, that's the that's the exact same situation because my mom was diagnosed November one and

died November twenty seven, so within twenty six days. So I was in Golden State with Jack and the rest of the squad, and I was back and forth constantly sacramented to the bay. And I remember the last day, Um, we were playing the Phoenix Suns and I I had been I had missed practice, and you know, she kind of saw I was aunty, but I was still spending time with her, talking to her and everything. She's like, you know, baby, go play your game. Your team need you, um,

and then just come back after. So I was like, all right, So man, I drove straight to the game, like, didn't have shoot around, didn't do whatever. Everyone already knew the deal. Played played well. I think we beat Phoenix in either a single overtime or double overtime. Had a really good game. I hit it when I got done, like a mouth that you know, you did a good job. Um, you know, get some rest, come see me in the morning.

And she died like four am that morning before I got a chance to get back over there and see her. But you know, to know that, you know, I mean, I got to have my nights with her and talk to her, and she was at peace. You know, she said, baby, I'm tired, you know what I mean, she had been fighting. She gave me the advice to you know, look over my brother and my sister, my dad. She she gave me all the game and then she know, I just knew she was once she you know, she can kind

of let go. She was going to be in a better place because she was so tired. She was in so much pain and she just been handled it no more. So it's funny that you said that because I had to come with to come to peace with her being at peace about it, which is like damn, Like she's at peace with letting go. So I had I had to be strong and do that. So it's a tough

thing to go through. Man. Yeah, that and that's the crazy, like you don't think like those little talks to that one on one and I mean so much, but for there to be like you, I'm tired, I'm at peace, It's like why why would I want her to suffer and keep fighting? I mean, I'm not the one that got to be in that body. So you kind of accept it, but you're still like godly like my best

friend my mom gone. So for me, like I had my dad for nine years in my life and most of the time he was in jail most of my life and my mom for twenty nine so it's like I know what it like not to be on both ends and I have either one. So like, that's my main goal is seeting that aspect. I think quick things to be taking away. So that's why I tried to change as much moment as I can with my son. Right,

So absolutely it changed your focus. Then you got a dear Mama tattoo on your back foot to honor her, right, Yeah, yeah, I got dear Mama tat my back. And then it's crazy, I got like your Mama's boy on my chest, like one of my first tattoos I got because I'm always

everybody always calling me a mom's boy. So then when she was going through the cancer and I'm just seeing her fighting and I'm like, yo, like I just like, dear Mama was just so dope to me, and I'm like, my mom would always had my back and always be watching over me. So that's why I put on the back of my neck. That's what it's dope. That's dope. In eighteen, you started pursuing your bachelor's degree. Uh, talk about that. You're still doing it. You still taking classes

while you quarantine, you know why you're rehabbing. Yeah, that was a promise you made your mom right there. She was gonna go back and get get your degree. Yeah, And that's crazy because, like before I got on a call with you all to day, I was just talking to my administrator from my school, like picking my my classes and my fall classes. So that's just crazy that y'all even bring it up. But like I was supposed to do exam when my mom was going through, she

went through it was about to pass. I was like, yea, take it like a like a month off and didn't find my ZAM. So I finally got through that is ZAM for my last semester and passed that. So now I'm going to get my classes for summer school. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna do that. And like my my ultimate goals even pushed even further to try to take as many classes more than I came to get it quicker, you know what I mean. Like when I got my when I went into the Hall of Fame, it was dope.

Because my mom was there and like when of the last time, she was very like I got to go back to Kentucky and see me, so like, do you know I got put into all the family. You'll probably see my speech where I broke down and talked about it, like all that all that was dope to me because she got to witness that. So like to see my first son born, to see me going to Hall of Fame, and see me play eight to nine years in the league.

Like and the only thing that really irks me to this day is you know you probably pul the same man. It's like did I do enough? Like did I make my mom happy? Like that's the only thing that'd be like, Yo, did I have enough fun with my mom? Did I do enough? And I have a dope assistance and always be like, yo, you ever, don't ever question and stuff and think about that because just go back and watch the pictures and seeing your mom smile and see that, Like I got to take my mom so that that

kind of clears my mind a little bit. And then like I got I put a picture uh me and my mom at the White House corresponded then like she got to meet Michelle and Brock, so like to take my mom and there that lets me know I did something special. So like, but yeah, I'm definitely going back to get that degree, though I'm pushing very hard for that. I love that, I was telling the crew before we

got on the air today. I went back and watched games six of the We Believe season when we beat Dallas in the clinching game and this mother fucking Jack is on fire and I hit him with one of his I think I hit him with like his assistant. He hit his six three pointer. Dallas called the time out and somehow that the camera I had, Like I said,

I had never seen the game. I was watching the T n T feed that can't pinned right to my mom and the crowd, and she was up jumping around screaming, hands above her head, and I'm like that she gave me instant hills, like just what are the chances at a twenty thousand people in the arena? Jack was the motherfucker to hit the shot. I don't even hit the shot. They just happened to pay on my mom and dad and go past them. And I'm like, damn, that ship is crazy. Like I was. I was his Bradley Bill.

I was I was his dog for real. You know, Jack and I became brothers, man, Like he was there every single day talking, doing whatever you need and you need that. That's why you know when it when it happened, I hit you, I hit you like bro, but you know whatever you need, you want to talk because I kind of found that, like you talking about it helped. At first, I was closed off to the world, you

know what I mean. I tried to play a day after I was closed off quiet, But then when I started opening up and talking, I really felt like I kind of started to heal a little bit and share the good memories and the fun times. And that's what Jack was there for. Man. We would just chop it up, and it really helped me have a different outlook. All look still hurt. It just gave me a different perspective on ship. Yeah, definitely gonna be always to be hurt.

But like you said, they're being able to talk about it has somebody can talk to and you can tell it like kind of buying y'all have you know what I mean? Even just by the show, but I'm seeing y'all before this, how y'all bond like you could tell that blond ain't fake, you know what I mean. And that's one thing like we're saying Jack, when when you was fixing your scream. Man, is like certain things to be so fake these days, man, Like people want to

be cool with people for a certain reasons. To be talked about the cloud chasing, like you could tell when it's genuine loved there and that's when that's when it all matters to me. It's cool to keep it moving, But when it's genuine love, you're gonna know. Man, You're gonna know what something you don't know, you're gonna know. Yeah, we all everybody in his life, we all normal. We all gonna go through tough times, you know what I mean.

And tough times don't last last is long. May make you strong as you're gonna be so, I mean, like you said, having some people you can talk to, somebody around and makes it so much better. That's what's up. Yeah, let's jump back to college, man, because you had the motherfucking legendary career, legendary teammates, legendary coach. Tell me what

that experience is. Because Jack went straight to the league, but I went to U C. L A and it was the best time in my d You want to dumb as you but you never get really which I can panther themn tess, Bro, you ain't telling me nothing. I don't know. I know a lot of people that go over seas, but that ain't right. But that one thing I would say, though, Jackie, if you ever had the opportunity, Bro, that would have been your best time ever. Man Like for me, I knew I was going for

eight months, you know what I mean. But like I'm like, yeah, I'm here to win the championship. I don't win it cool, but I'm gonna have this most fun never and being able to go to class and get up and grind every day. Man like we had. Bro. When I tell you coach college, when the crazy coach act, like two weeks, I see you. I think I picked the one school I want to transfer. She was like, she was like, boy, you stay like this. Every morning we had to be

on the suicide line. We had twenty suicide and twenty minutes at six am. Every day was summer school. So like our first ten suicide is like the basic one free throw line. Then the last ten was baseline baseline other free throw line like, and I'm like, yo, did I like this is not basketball? And then want yeah type thing. So I'll tell you when the funny stories is.

We run the suicide. We got like four left and like the guards had to finish, like Biggs had to finish, like thirty the markets feet caught on fire, like he said, he stopped running like he really he made suicide. He made suicide. He runs to the sideline to my quick, man quick, like my feet burn, and I ain't doing it the more because would be he would want to be all billy. So he was like, you know what if he would have finished the suicide, I didn't give

you all the morrow off. No, he wasn't gonna give us more of just trying to use. So we got suicide to this morning man the market sitting at a half court. He ain't got a runk. You know the reason why we gotta run to there. He's sitting in at half court, no running. We all look at him like, yo, we gotta jump him after this because there's no way we got run suicide and he ain't got a run. But we don't want to beating the markets up back then.

But yeah, like Jack that that school man, it was the most fun ever, man, just being able to prepare every week, having maybe two or three games, and the most fun with me was going on the road, Like you don't get you don't get that atmosphere and that that coach they brought were talking trash and it's just you and your your fourteen guy and you're going out there to go to battle and go to war and

it's like, you gotta win a survive out here. Ain't nobody on your side, and you know, Kentucky fans travel, but it feels like, yeah, it still didn't feel like a home game because the way they were treating but it was dope. Man. You couldn't ask for nothing better.

And like everyone, for me being then one pick, I wanted to go back to school just to win the national championship, just to get that atmosphere and that like fun and high sight and it was tell me about what that team was like because you played with a lot of NBA players in college, Like your team was rock star status, you know. I mean that's when social media just started hitting, like y'all was the ship you

bled bogie? Like what was that? Like? It was man, Like we stayed in the Wildcat Lodge, and like we walked outside our building where we stayed in the practice. That's why I can't live. It's like where the players stayed, but we we gotta let like teen regular students stay, so the like you get extra benefits. It's like where we stay, like having an apartment, so we had like

a game room and all that in there. But like from here to like ten steps, it's like what we practiced that, but it would be like sixty seventy cars and people wave autographs every day and we couldn't get away from them. So we're like, yo, we can't even want the class. But I so like we started like using the golf car to go to class. Football team got mad, they told we couldn't use it no more, so we had to walk. It's like so cold walking

back towards the class. But what was so fun about that year was, you know, nobody like the returning players that came, like Patrick Pattison and Ramone Harris and Dere's Miller. None of these guys never played for Cows. So like the freshmans in the in the upper classmen, it's all some new for all of us. So like they didn't know what coach Kyle was looking for. We didn't know what coach Kyle was looking for, so we all had

to bond and come together. But we did everything together. Bro, we weren't bowling together to eat together like we treated like you do as a league team. That's great commodity and one of those good teams because they hang out together. Team just you know, like we had all the other guys that kind of like, you know, like if you got like me, Pat the Mark, he bled like, we know we're about to go, but all the other guys like, man, they ain't gonna hang with us. They don't really rock

with us. But we're like, no, bro, we're all a brother. Were all things like we're going to war to fight every night I get hurt. The fifteen guy gonna hang with it. So they half like the guys they didn't think they were the part of our crew all to get together. That's why our team was so funny, having so much then. We were just doing whatever, man, we could. Nothing was wrong for us to do in college at the time. We walked in the corner stories like oh man,

that go them guys again, we're here. That's us. College. College was the outside of having children and being blessed to play in the league like Collins, was the funnest time of my life. Man, you in l A S so I know you was having a blast. Yeah, but see, I think I think different because l A is l A and it's so big and there's so much other ship to do, you know what I mean. So it's not you went to where. Motherfucker, that's religion. I remember

the best part. Obviously going there was dope. But my freshman year and nine was the NBA lockout, so we had everybody at our game. So I'm tripping coming from like Sacramento, Like, motherfucker. We got Shock and Kobe at our game. We got movie stars like, we got Snoop coming to our game, and I'm like, damn, this is what U C. L A Is about. Like the ship was a trip, but it was because it was the NBA lockouts. We had Hella NBA players at our game front and center, and I'm just like, Yeo, this ship

can't be real. Like it was just like that real La la la in type ship And that's what I just fell in love with. This ship, bro, ship was a blast. That was my plan to go to college. Three months I had. We had the number of recruiting class that year at Arizona, Me, Mike Bibi, and Eugene Atkinson. We had a number. Okay, yeah, y'all. I was loaded. Yeah, I remember that class, and we already had with Michael Dickinson,

Miles Simon. We had all them guys already. So we was gonna and they end up winning the national championship. So it worked out how I was supposed to work out. My start. I couldn't stay at the club. Test was at eight. I'm leaving the club at five thirty. That that wasn't gonna work. I ain't gonna lie man. First time I took that test, man, I fell asleep him. I don't needed to dance. All right, I'm gonna tell

you one thing. You're gonna be figuring something else outs that I I got locked it out from me and snack this second time. First time. I ain't bray, no snack, no calculu. I got this. You know what I mean, spelling names, wrong, doing all that. You better get this right or you're gonna be hurt. Exactly I talk to us about So you know, Kentucky, Uh, you're project the number one pick you end up being the number one pick to the Washington Wizards. UH in two thousand and ten.

Tell me what you remember most about that uh situation, like going into the draft or like after I declare just just the whole, just the process of like I got a chance to be the number one pick in the NBA Draft. It was crazy because like it's so crazy because my senior year, there's like, well you're gonna be in there one people. I'm like, yeah, y'all whatever, y'all just talking. And then you know, like you got a lot of guys from back home like, well he's

gonna be in school three four years. He ain't gonna do what he's supposed to do whatever. So for me to go there, like first couple of games, like my first game game winner, I mean at missed two games game winner. Um. Then we get to play Carolina at Kentucky. You know, I'm excited for that game because not mean being from North Carolina, like my dream school, not getting a scholarship offered because I don't want to commit on the spot. So like, yea, we get to play Carolina.

Boy Williams, they had Dexion Strickland and l drew the guy. They're like they had picked over me to go there, so I felt even a certain way to play. Even talk to us about that Carolina situation. That's crazy. So you wanted to go to North Carolina and they wanted to commit on the spot and you couldn't do it. So Carolina is my dreams school. Like you know, I mean either Carolina, Duke NC stay really your main schools. You've been home, and um, I love, always loved Carolina.

You know, ty Lawson was there the time. I'm like, yo, ty Lawson killing. I love watching don't play. But then I also got to see dear Rodes play at Memphis. I'm like, yo, i gotta play with coach cow But I'm like, y'all gotta stay home at the time being. And then I went on to visit. I went on the visit in Tyler Hansburg that they went to a football game and they're like, well, we'll give you off if you commit on the spot. I'm I'm not committing on the spot. I still want to go watch. I mean,

I'm from where I'm from. I want to see all these other schools and get to see these other states take visits. So I'm not committing on the spot. They're like, well, we're not gonna off you, Like you know what, I'm never going to Carolina. I'm never going to Carolina. There then I got to play Larry Drew, not the backtrack. I gotta play Larry Drew. I think committed to Carolina at the Blacks of Smith tournament, which is owned by me now my John Water tournament. So I got to

play him in front of Roy and all them. We won that game, so we get to play them in college. I'm like, yo, we gotta kill them. And I'm telling my team like, we gotta kill him. It's a big game for me. And we beat Carolina. Did not get to play ukon with Kimball and Jerome Dison and Stanley Robinson in the garden, and I think that was my solidified party of being then one pick because I had like fifteen of our last seventeen the last five minutes

in the game winner. So now my whole aspect is like so my whole aspect and there like I'm on the Great Wall of Sports Illustrated. So I'm like, yeah, I'm about to go to the league. But like I'm trying to tell everybody, like just let me focus on this college moment because I know it's you can go by like this if you lose early in the n C Double A tournament. So I told my team, like, uh, coach Ky always get like his top point guard, top pick.

Did you ever know they gotta Slam cover with all on them up there like that Coach Kyle and Derek and Coach Cole and Tarik is supposed to be in Coach cow And I'm like, yo, na, if you're gonna put me on the cover again, I'm tired of being on cover by myself. Put the markets E Blair and Patrick Pattison on this couple with me. So if you ever seen the Slam magazine before the tournament, they got all four of us that they were Coach Kyle and like,

my teammates couldn't believe that I put him on there. Women, I'm like, that's the type of bond we have, Like this is a commodity and love my god, y'all is my brothers. So a lot of people don't even know that story. So in the article, it's like the cover of the bowl letters me and yellow. But I said, yeah, my letters bowl. But you see my other three brothers up there with me and when I first got in and not the back trap. When I first got to school, though,

Coach Y like, yeah, I know you're gonna leave. We all know you're gonna leave, but take four or five guys with you. And I'm like, Coach, I can't do that, Like, I can't. I don't know if these guys got that dog, are gonna want to go to the league at the one year and we end up having five guys in the first round. That's never been done before. So talk to us that you uh injury, the hell injury that ended uh that you need to have surgery and ended

your season. You're rehabing that. And then at the house do you slip fall tell your achilles? Yeah, like that's back to back crazy similar to crazy luck that the Marcus have talked to us with what your mind state

was like after that? It was so crazy, was because when I when I can tell you about before that, I had a boon spare in my knee, Like so I'm gonna tell the story about all this was like when all this is over, but I had a boon spare on my knee like this long like a tooth like two three inches in my knee, so I couldn't been my knee. So when I was walking around it doubt it was like you should have been unbroke your

knee cap, you should never been an All Star. All this, I'm like, well, I guess I got a high pain tolerance. So I played through that. I got that fixed. That's gonna have my best year. Sixteen seventeen, we go to Game seven against Boston. Then I come back like the next two years and like certain games my heel would hurt, Like I'm telling about walking on my tippy toes where

I couldn't even go to the bathroom at night. They're like somebody would just stab me with a knife in the back of my head and just keep twisting it, you know me. Like I feel like I have that mindset. If it ain't bro you can play well. At the same time, like I'm I'm really giving my all when I shouldn't be right now because I'm I can mess

my career up. So going into like eighteen nineteen, yeah, eighteen nineteen, I'm playing and I was like I having games where like I'm talking about Jack and Matt, like, well, I couldn't even like run down the court like anybody could have got by me and we're playing Cleveland at the worst game of my life one point and then right, I should have set myself out at the beginning, but I'm like, y, I can get through this. I can fight.

It's gonna warm up. It never warmed up, and man, after that, I was like, ya, I gotta shut it down, like I gotta, I gotta have surgery to get this out there. And they're like, well, you might not come the same, but people don't really know with me slipping ever really and even the reason why I told my achilles because I had a bons furt underneath my heel, so I had to lift my achilles up already to take the bones for out. So when I did that, you know what, I made my achilles of a week

and I was in a walking book and stuff. So it just so it just finally gave. But then when they put my achilles back down, my bones first out. But I'm like walking like this, so like they finally just gave. But the doctors like, it's best you did it like that because you would have came back and rehabbing worked out. It would have just talked completely, like like Caden and so mine fully rushed. You have like a partial tear in minds, so I was rather bet

off doing that, so you know what I mean. So let me tell you all the third box and then I get through that. But I've been through four or five surgery with that because I kept getting infections m like, so like now I'm thinking, like, man, y'all might have to cut my whole leg off. Y'all can't clear the infection out there because it's deep down in my foot.

So now my mind said this, man, forget the killers and getting that fixed right now, just please clear this infection so I can be healthy, like being able to walk and have my foot still, right. That's all I was really worried about. So people didn't even know that side of the stories. I'm like, you, just please get the infection out. And I kept tired of getting like open it up, cutting, closing and open and closing, and

so I was like, man, forget even playing basketball. Just let me have my legs so I can walk and be normal and play with my kids when there or whatever. And then I finally got past it, and I finally got past that stage where now I'm like, I can't wait to prove everybody and show everybody what I got. Everybody think I'm done. That's tough. Now, you were on assignment with the G League and I heard you was getting back to your ship. How are you? How are you?

How are you feeling and during that? And where do you feel like you're at right now? And so you took somebody face off in practice or something. I seen y'all some private videos. But when I tell you, like when I tell y'all, when I tell you, I'm like,

you know, like you're playing. So let me tell you all know my mom sat so when I'm playing, I'm not when I'm not playing on watching these guys play, you know, like the young guys and they all like they're killing our team and they're looking at our bench and stuff. I just know I got those right down in my notes when I come back when they started next season, because I'm like, I can't wait to show them what I got, what I'm about, But I'm I'm

gonna be better than what I was before. And that's the scary part about it because then in my whole year, damn, they're the whole Like my five years I was an all start, I played with two bones, pers in my knee, in my hell. And people don't know that. M So y'all guard. They ain't even get the best to John Wall yet, so like they just got a clip of him already already. Know you gotta love a lot, a lot left for the tanking all this time you missed.

I know you're gonna come back and kill. But speaking of guards, if you're talking about the guards, you got, what's who's your top five pgs of all time, all time, all the time? Man? Magic up there? For sure? It's just step up there for Sean. I know people like that's too early, but step definitely up there. Uh see. I like see like people like down grazy Pino, like

CP because the way you do stuff. I'm not saying you see, y'all played against him like people might not like CP, but what he pray into the game like as a leader, as an i Q guy dog and don't back down for nobody. I could put him in my top five because of that, because he don't give them who it is. He's trying to rip your head off and it's a love. That's what I love about CP man because like I like, you know what I mean,

I played to me, you know, second sales. I coach for a little bit anyone and coach the Clippers, So I'm like, I'm about the bust CPS. I don't get then what you say, like gonna bust show as I'm like, well, we just got to go because you coach both of us, and that's what I love. The CP. Don't give damn who you with, and that's the mindset you gotta have. Man, you gotta have that. You gotta have that. I got him,

I got CP, I got magic. I gotta put John steinning because he all time since leading, I mean, just not even that. And then I go out of the times. I love o Ziah Thomas. Zeke. Yeah, yeah, Zeke. How

can you not love Zeke? Speaking of us? Speaking of CP, you have a you have a signature motherfucking move that you caught me with and it's still getting shown a lot more, lady, because there ain't no motherfucking basketball when you did that motherfucking three sixty spin layer, and I've seen your eyes getting big, and I know you wasn't crazy enough to try to dunk on me, because you know, I found the ship out of you, but you was up like like yo, this motherfucker's eyes are getting real big.

He about to pull some ship. The next thing I know, this motherfucker jumps, spins around and makes me. I knew, like I just saw it kind of coming. I just turned the opposite way and looked like this motherfucker didoth three sixty lay up on me. Ever, i'mna be realistic, man, I was about a ducking. But when you started to spin, like when you move, you moved to the right where like when I lean it with my lips, I'm like, I can't do this. I'm a fault. And I know

he ain't grabbing me. He thought me straight to the ground. So in my mind set, in my mind said, I'm like, yeo, I gotta spin. You know that's my goal to Like, I just all playoff instincts. So once I've seen him like, I'm a spin and I did not know that was on that Yeah, that was. But the reason why I was in that mindset wasn't Matt. You probably remember man, CP was already going there like arguing the whole day.

It was a battle battle, a battle like going after and then like CPS on the bench and he had said something a couple of plays before that, and you gotta think we're that like eight team something like fun that I gotta start putting on the show. And the night before I just chewed the legacy. I started putting on the show. We come back and make it a game.

They Seepe come back in and winning for him. But like that stretch was like we went on like in twelve oh one, and that's when Doc brought the Woods back in. That ship was tough. I remember because I was I was. I thought for a second, you're gonna jump, So I start coming towards you, kind of clearing the way like I'm gonna try to get you before you even take off. And the next thing I know that boy just yeah, that ship was code. That was dope. So obviously the goal in in Washington has been to

win the championship. You and Bill being two of the best guards um in the league. What do you think are free agency draft? How do you feel like you guys And this is no knock on the current team, you know, I mean this is just real talking and your goal obviously is to get to the playoffs and win the championship. What do you kind of feel like you guys need to have happened for that to have them well, for one, like you said that you started

right there. I like, I feel like for a couple of years in the past, we just kept trying to rebuild through the draft like you do a lot of other sports. But in the league, your window is kind of short. You don't have time for that, you know what I mean. And I feel like me and Brad is a great cornerstone. We have Ruey's a rookie that's in there. But I feel like we need We're gonna We're definitely gonna need us a three that's a dog, you know what I mean. That's the knockdown shots and compete,

compete and create for us. And then we also got to build a bit, you know, I mean, just being realistic, Like, I love the team we have never we have some great pieces and a lot of young guys that just getting an opportunity to play where they probably would have never gotten on other teams. But like I feel like, if you want to be one of those teams, you gotta have vettering guys around that's willing to understand they roll. And that's kind of what we dealt with in the

years past with our teams. Is nobody really understood their role and trying to get guys to understand that role. We never accepted it. And you know how hard that is, Jack and Matt when you got got seven to eight guys on one year deals every year, like everybody's trying to fight for the contracts. So they mindset ain't like thinking about, well, we're gonna be here for a while, we can build this for you to get to what you want to They're like, no, I'm not with it.

I'm trying to get paid right now. And I feel like if we get if we add some pieces where guy's gonna buy into what's going on, then we'll be fine. But if guys ain't willing to buy into that, and then we can't bring those guys a part of our team because we know men Brad is the main piece of the team that just back find all these pieces that fit us, and you never know what the future gis hold. Two things, we're heading down the whole stretch.

Who's your favorite guy to battle? When you're like, okay, we're playing solo so tonight, like this is when I'm gonna be on my ship my guys, Kyrie Man. For some reason, like because what makes me, because what makes me so frustrated is we felt like those two years we posed have been in the the East, coming to find that when we lost to Boston and then yeah, I broke my hand against Atlanta and Jack remember that series, so Up said about that. So I feel like that's

the matchup. Everybody want to see me and Kyrie to go at it for seven games and four gain I havev long and I never got the opportunity. So every time we played them, and it felt like even in the rec and felt like we was in playoff more like even when Brian was trying to simulate that, yeah that crazy when Brian hit that crazy favor without the glass, Like I felt like every time he played him, it's like, man, Kyrie,

just know this is what it is. Like it's a battle, and it was at the time, it was like, who's the best point guard in the East between us, who's even the second best player in the East behind Lebron, And that's what my mindset wasn't has always been like that with him. That was a four court pass to Bron Carter in the corner, turned and shot it off the jointing his slot in front of the three point line and once he told it was the foul him, we let him take a dripple back behind the three

for a line phase, so he running past me. I make I'm like, you know that was look he said, no, you don't feel I do this all the time. He always he always making shots like this. So like, I ain't got ship. I can say he got championships, so well, what can I say to bron But that was the same game where he got away. He got away with the Traveler. Yeah, bro, each travel was so bad. I knew what movie was doing. I know what Brian want. We all know if people want to do you can't

stop him. He traveled so bad and he missed his time not and missed it. I really threw the game, like yeah, and it's currently because I'm like, yo, Kevin Love outlets this past so perfect, Like you couldn't have nobody else better to throw that past than Kevin Love. Right, what's a former player you wish you could get a chance to go to battle against? Well, I didn't even

gonna say go to battle. We know one player I wish that I could steal battle when I wish you never had those injuries because he was the toughest player I ever played in my life with dead road boy because coming in my rookie year of the year he won't VP man, when I tell you it was nothing you could do, Like I don't care bash you was how quick he was because he wasn't those guys that we never seen a guy to be that fast and the athletic, but had one of the best floaters we

ever seen, like his floating bro he never missed it off two feet going right, So it was like which way I'm gonna force some left where he gonna dunk in my center and going right. It wasn't like he got to the room all the time. He had LAIDs, but he had a tough float that was tough to guard. So he would be that guy. But the guy said, I wish I would have like with a that would be my guy. M h ho would have been up because you bigger just as fast. That's that's scary. You

got a need Kobe stories and you remember when Kobe stories. Yes, man, my favorite Kobe story with my rookie year, we're going to play him in l A. You know, I mean, you know you're still like I can't be I'm about to play the bean like there's nowhere I'm about to play Kobe and I got Gill on my team gear.

Come out there, winban and no shoes, strange straps. Yeah, I'm like, so, I'm gonna play Kobe with a guy like Year that don't care about nothing Like so I get I get Kobe and the post he guarding me. I'm guard him in the post he spends. I blocked his shot that of course, you know, not chase after of it. I think I'm about to get the loose ball and they kick it to him and I run back over. They shooting three, and it was like that

was a good block to play. Continues. I should have never said nothing, because he ended up like scoring like twenties straight on us. And I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna mind my business and not say nothing. No more, don't wake him up. Sometimes you can't wake him up. Yeah, And then my last the when I had with Kobe was one of the best ever. Like we're battling me in Kobe, like I'm really going at it, like Kobe scoring, I'm scoring. This fourth quarter is like

the last seven minutes of the game. We're going back and forth. I'm guarding me, guarding me. They didn't not winning, But it was like the Kobe like last trip before, like he tore a killing and stuff, and that was dope for me to be Like I can tell my son to show my son at how on YouTube of going to a battle on war with Kobe to win the clutch game. Yeah, you touched on the real quick before we we got a couple more questions. But what was it like to have Gilbert Arenas as a teammate?

How about it was? It was wild for me because like he was teaching me the roads, like he wasn't trying to put me under wrap the same thing, but just to see him but like he always grouping around having fun, but like he still had that work as even though he know he wasn't here. Like I would go in there some nice to getting shots. He'd be already in there shooting one hand three from half court. I'm like, what, I see why you did. I can see why you did these game winners from back in

the day and turn around. But like gil was still like a guy that love the game. But he was

funny as hell. Man. He was one of the coolest guys to be around, and he was layal, like I remember my first time, like my second, third time walk in the locker room, and we wore the same size and like, you know, they had those easy that Louis Vitty had made with a rail one and the gray ones in the cream ones, and like he just dropped the whole box and shoes off in the shoe bag, like seventy pair of shoes like this for you, young fellow. And it's when I was a Rebox you know, I

was wearing the signer sneakers of Rebox. Won't too much I can wear. I was like, man, it's the coolest bet ever. Man, gotta go by the Louis no nothing. I got everything I need. So he was always doing to me and him still kicking and the like if I need basketball advice, I called him and ask him and we just chop it up. That's for a lot of people to understand his basketball mind and how hard he works. He's a psycho when it comes to work ethic.

And it was funny because I talked to heard him telling the story about Kobe told had a conversation with Gil about he needs to start giving back to the game more and take stuff more serious because he's got such an amazing basketball mind and obviously you got you got a chance to touch on that. Yeah, he's starting to do that, and now he talked about it once Kobe facts like your Kobe, you want to be doing it,

I'm gonna start doing it. But like you said, Ja, y'all both y'all said before the show started, is I wish y'all had this platform back then because people portraye y'all who y'all are because of your image and your mind saying the dog and home y'all half for the love of the game, that people would trade you in a different way. And now like people look at Gil and be like, no, Gil ain't like that. Here Kobe

talk about getting that way. People want expect that. They think gillis, Oh he's always goofing, always not taking the game serious, but he puts that work in. But and then they're like, I try to tell people is and the day everybody got twenty four that day we're not gonna be in the gym for twenty four hours. So we're still gonna live out regular lives and do other things.

But you can never knock nobody work at it. You don't know when they're putting that work in because everybody and film everything, like everything is not supposed to be filmed. My work is my work under underground. All right, we got these quarantine quick hitters. Last couple of questions where we get you out of your jack, go ahead and start him up. Who you think should be a guest on a little smoke? Who you think should be our next guests? I feel like guests are all smoke. Should

be Bradley gild my teammates. You go, and you're gonna at the time when you say something, you know the word is born. Appreciate that. Uh, cur What are you currently binge watching? Like watching on TV? Yeah, yeah, you're watching anything on TV? Any shows anything? Yeah, I'm watching I'll be watching Chicago p D Jack Ryan, and then I'm on Ozark. I just started Ozark. Okay, see your in season one of Ozark. Yeah yeah, hey, you start a little slow, but trust me, when he gets going,

brush it get going. Yeah yeah, my assistant put me on that one. But yeah, already that going. So I'm gonna finish that up. That's dope. What's your quarantine snack? Gold fish? You you and your son fight over those up. I had to bottom the ones I had abody old fish. They got like they shaped like Mickey Mouse. So because he like Mickey Mickey Mouse said, you've been thinking them joints is real, so him cutting minds, not giving the Mickey Mouse wars. I figured it out. They got the

tropical color. They got the tropical color through the box the fish. They got the tropical colors. I ain't trying. I ain't been in those you put me on the phone. Yeah, that tropical boy. Hey, so tell me this, what's your favorite retro Jersey? Favorite retro Jersey, man, I ain't gonna lie. Man, that Memphis Grizzy war shrieper do with the grizzly on it. Yeah yeah, man, Like I'll be wearing that joy every summer, like I were at least want someone every something like

I might go outside. I just love the way that color hit. You're the second person that color is crazy. That's what's up. Artists or songs that's don't repeat right now, who you're working with right now. I'm like, I'm on NBA young boy right now, slimming, yes, sir, right now. My favorite song about him is Lonely Child. Yeah, I love that lonely child. Yeah, I like that, But you know nothing one that that that you that you don't take off. Repeat this, Roddy rich Ward, Baby, I don't

take that. I'll repeat neither. Yeah. Yeah, Jack down to the begging segment, brought to you by Bang Bang Stephen Jackson's what do you want to what do you want to do? The drums played Bang. I came begging for nothing the last couple of years when he had playoff games, he flew me down, gave me flooring seats, He took cash Bro more than five times. I have nothing to ask for my little bro. He always been a great

little bro to me. So I just want to give me this problem to say thank you for always holding me down when our call little Bro. You know I you know I'm gonna call away when you need me. It's nothing I gonna ask you because you've always been trilled with me. Doc for Shure. I love me Bro, Killer killer Man. That's some wrap. We want to thank our special guests, John Wall. Continue blessing to you and your family and your journey back to the court. We can't wait to see what you say. Is is the

best job Wall yet? So we're excited about that. Sure. Appreciate you all for having me. Man, love and blessing back to your family. Also, that's a wrap. You can find this on Showtime Basketball, YouTube or all platforms, streaming podcasts, all of them. Good job, my boy. It's something about how this place forms a different kind of person. On my high school team. We have five guys make the NBA. We had the County Rock. You mentioned friend Shorty's County peop.

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not yet. I was hoping you'd say that we gotta hit the streets, make some money. People like us. Let's destroyed people like him to come up. Get Showtime free at Showtime dot com.