Jermall & Jermell Charlo | Ep 45 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball

strongest me. It would definitely deliver a statement the powers for real. We would get a chance to let everyone in the world see the great things that me and my twin brother has dream for. The Sporter boxing, you know, on the same card, gives us an energy. We we want to be sharp, we want to be at our best. We're gonna both meet in the middle of the ring and we're gonna let our hands go. Let the best man win. They are boxing and they pound for pound.

Welcome back Man, season two of All the Slow. We got a real special guest. What's up with your Brodie with the virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell ya something that I never told No back. I want to All the Smoke welcome back season two. All the smoke man, we'd like to welcome to I think this is dope because I mean, I have identical twins myself, so to see identical twins excelling on the biggest stage in professional boxing. Welcome to Charlow Twins. How y'all doing. Yeah, sorry, we

appreciate you all, Man Mail and Mallah, thank you. We're excited. We know you've got a big fight coming up on the twenty six on showtime. Our family sold some only right, we sit down with y'all. This is like Jackson, this is a long overdue interview. I ran into one of y'all this this summer in Vegas, so it's good to find the kind of sit down and chop it up

with y'all. So let's get to it now. Hold on, Hold on how you saying Mack was acting and how in the Vegas bro man, he was acting real, real Hollywood. You know that's all it was, because what was telling what I was, jack I was sitting by the chair by the elevators, waiting for my motherfucking kids to come down, and who were taking forever? And I was that's how you hit it on the head. I was just high

in my own little world. And then I've seen y'all walk by him, like, damn, that's one of the Charlotte brothers, ain't it. But I wasn't sure because y'all look kind of short, so I wasn't sure. But it ended up being so it was cool. Like I said, but yeah, man, you know, I mean, if you know me, I'm definitely not Hollywood. I was just super high. I just beat in my own world. Something always always, that's Matthew Born. Well, let's get to it. You know, obviously you guys got

a relationship with Jack. How did that start? And Jack? Have you ever got a chance to catch any of their fights live? Of course, I've been to a couple of the fights. I actually don't remember how how we met. I just know, um, I think it just became from must being from Texas and supporting each other and talking to I G I remember how we met. It was

one time y'all had a game. He was playing for San Antonio and I was in the back, and I think me and my brother we was like, hey, that's where he from usting and he just like showed us some love or whatever, and then it just always kicked it off from the man. I don't even remember that. That's how I've been a picture with you. I thought, I thought, just because when you're especially wheny'all started coming up, you know, knowing y'all from Texas, I just started supporting y'all.

Know I show a lot of people love on my page. But then, you know, I just saw supporting y'all, and I saw the connection with CB Chris Brown, and that's my little brother too, So it all became family, even though we haven't been around each other that much, but the support, and then the last couple of fights you had, you know, I'm right the ring side supporting y'all, man, So you know, it's just it just became family from

a distance. I definitely spotted you out in the crowd a couple of times at the fights, you know, yeah, even ringside ringside with us. You was nothing like Matt. So now I'm the ask So that's crazy. Now we're definitely gonna kick you get once y'all get through these fights, We're gonna get down. We're gonna see, we're gonna kick and kicking. It would be fun to let your kids see some older twins. I swear well, me and my

brother used to see older twins. It always was like like wow, they get the twins get big, you know, like we always Now that's because, like like I was telling y'all before, I mean, you got you guys boxed and fight as children. My boys go at it, uh. And that's what I asked, because if one hurts the other one, I don't give a funk how mad they are, They're gonna stop to see if their brothers okay. And and that's no matter what if if I'm disciplining one of them, the other ones me mugging me like he

wants to do something to me. If I tell the other ones something that the one twin like, it's always the connections and is incredible. And I feel like you guys, being identical twins, I'm sure you've got this similar experience. All right, So who raise your hand? Who's older? Because I'm sure I'm gonna forget. I mean, I have as I'm telling my twins for reach your hand though, Okay, that's the older one right there. And you said by

by one minute, one long minute, one long minute. Now you guys have similar kind of pass uh in your career as far as kind of being misunderstood. You know, Jack and I were perceived as bad guys just because we always had our teammates back and we weren't really with the bullshit. And it kind of seems like you guys have a similar repetition when it comes when you let the media tell the story. Uh, what do you

guys think about that? I mean, it took a lot for us to like really just you know, finally get the media to understand that we ain't just some bad kids, you know what I'm saying. They thought we was just some bad young twins coming up in a gang and gang of violence and all of this stuff. But we really like down the Earth Warriors. But what we stand we stand for what we stand for, and so that that created so much you know, hatred towards towards us

and then everybody we thought we knocked out. Then after we knocked them out, we didn't want to shake that in and it's like, that ain't what this's about. So we didn't look at it like a sport, like you know, we had to turn we have to we have to learn sportsmanship in this game. But how could you how could you tell somebody to controler emotion? After you've just been pump pounding on somebody bet twelve rounds like me.

I know personally after if I played the game of basketball and somebody said the wrong thing to me, even if I want, I ain't shaking on hand no more for the rest of my career, Damn the game. Yeah, I'm not speaking none of that. It's Plex. It's Plex forever, as long as I see you as plex, because right alone, ain't talking all kind of messed before the fight, the build up the fight, so we already don't want to be cool. The next thing, you know, we knock you out.

It's like, yeah, I told you, you know what I mean. Like I've seen one press comments when you all was talking to I think it was the last fight and you just talking about like I just don't like to do and I think that's I mean, just to keep it real. I mean, that's the kind of ship will be on. I mean, just that realness. And sometimes it's misconstrued as being a bad person, but it really is just being real. It's being who you are. And people

like the sugarcoat ship too much exactly. Growing up in Houston, what got you guys into boxing was that your first sport. Do guys play other sports? What got you guys into up putting them gloves on? To be honest with you, man, I boxed, um my dad. My dad had us like you know, some some some fighters. You know. We would fight the whole neighborhood like uh that year. Then when we moved to Houston, it was like it was a

new outlet for us. Instead of us being like on the street fighting each fighting other kids and fight each other, We're not. We would just be you know, in the boxing ring, and we took off from them at a young age. Who had the upper hand. I was always big Charlotte, you know what I'm saying, Like I used to go, I was the one that Then we had our wards, you guys. Obviously with the Texas ties with Errol Spence, he was someone we had on the show Man.

After his accident, God blessed he was okay after that. How did you guys connect with him? The first time? We've been with Earl Spence for a long time. My brother fought on the same USA team with him. I mean, you know they fought in like tournaments and stuff, and we fought in tournaments together. We didn't fall to each other before, so as always was a Texas thing, you know here around the same thing ages us. So we always kept it like, you know, like like what's up, Homy,

what's up? Like that. Then all of a sudden we connected, you know, when I switched trainers from Ronnie Ships to James, the James trained them, left and went to Dallas. And ever since then it's been like some brothers, like you know, I've been with I've been with uh Derrek James for five years now. I think he also mentioned how he respected the way that you came and asked him before

you moved on to that trainer. I think that obviously shows up what kind of character you have as a man, and in the rules to the game, because they're going to training one further you know, and that was Earl. So it was like, hey, you know, you got your own custom trainer to you. I ain't trying to steal your style, I ain't trying to not get training. But he go hard like, hey, I'll train with him. What's up? You know what? The like, Yeah, go ask him when it's up to you. You know, we made a click

from there. We've been bobbing every since May two thousand sixteen, right after you got the twenty sixth birthday. You guys made history. Can you guys talk to us a little bit about that? In both of your guy's perspectuves, we made history, you know, um, the first twins to have the hole the belt simultaneously in the same weight division. It was like, you know what I mean, Like it was crazy because we both wanted to be like, I'm

the reason we made history. You know, we both competitive, so I already had to build at middleweight, but then my brother had to capture his his built for us to both make world history, you know. So it was like it was all up to you. It's all up to you, bro, go ahead that go out there and do your thing. You know he was, I know, but at first he was out of the fighting. It was a little struggle, right, you know what I mean. I'm like, damn man, he gotta he gotta do so, you gotta

do it right now. And then they say, you know, boom, we got the knockout. So it's like, yeah, we made history. You know what I mean? It was yea. And what was your perspective on the scene that you had to you know, you had to hold your end of the deal up to make history. I couldn't drop the ball, you know, and I know my brother sitting in the back, you know, just man, let's get this. Let's get this.

Let's get this. And you know, nobody in the boxing world can say that they have a twin brother fighting on the soddom same same way. We've just been doing the thing, you know. So that was a big mark for us. That was one are like milestones for sure. That's dope. When you guys are obviously you're at each other's fight, what kind of anxious or nervous energy or or scared Explain your emotions when you're watching your brother in that ring before y'all answer. You gotta people know.

You know I didn't. I didn't watch him a couple of times, Big Brom. I'm gonna tell you what I think when Little Bro fighting Big Bro in there, he more on the side, like, man, do this because because if I was in there, uh little Bro when here watching Big Bro fight, he wanted to get in their help. When when he thinks like Big Bro having little trouble, he wanted to get in their help. I'm saying that's

what that's what they looked like. To me, man, I honestly, you know, like I'm always trying to get give my brother some pointers and show him like you know, he bro do this, you know, do that, but like he so he so burned. Then I'm like, damn, I really don't want to, like you know, break his confidence. But you know, honestly, we looked for each other's like advice for the fight, like I fight according to like how my brother know how I feel, you know, if you

know I'm feeling this certain way. He's just got like this way of just telling me, you know, do this and do that, but you know, something that his trainer can't even do, Like my trainer can't even do. We we've all got all like our own bond. So I'll definitely be in there like I hyped up. I want to fight for him, you know, like I'll be feeling like, man, I'm a little bro just putting me out there. I don't I'll do the fighting for you men, just get

the money. I'll find I'll be feeling like that. Like it's like it's like your children, Matt, they want to, they want to, they feel it's like a It definitely got that twin feeling all It's like, it's definitely some twinship that's been going on. It's a different energy. I mean, there are situations, you know, when they were little playing soccer, one kid pushed one of the twins down. The other twin came across the field and clothes like this little

more fucker, but they're only like four years old. Or one time where normally twins will always get sick, but one goes to get sick before, so one would go to school and the other one at home all day is worried about are you sure my brother's okay at school? Should we call? Should we see if it's okay? Should we go pick him up? Because he's probably gonna be sick too. So I just know I get that. Like you said, your trainer can't even read that, and it's ship that I just from the outside, I peep. I

can't read that energy and vibe like they can't. So it's definitely that twin connection, y'all. Guy, I can relate because you know, my brother didn't make it, you know, on the bus, i'd be like Dann, he just don't know where to go. But I heard you guys. Obviously it's similar weight classes, but I heard you guys would never fight against each other, So do you guys spar and if you do spark the sparking sessions like, well, we used to spark. We don't spark no more. You know,

it was rough. It was that same feeling like if you hit me hard, do I back off? What do I do when you hit me hard? Like? Na, bro, we can't be hitting each other no more because I'm starting I'm starting out like this. You know you hit me hard, I'm gonna I'm gonna let loosen that. Mom always told us we don't need to be fighting. So it's just like it's over with. It's it's a different fight now. Don't punch is too violent? No, no, no,

Now I think about it. I think about it like four third, fourteen, we start getting in trouble at home. If we fought each other like over something, you know, some simple we would we get each ouble at home. We got another couple of fights in spatting, so it was like, no, it's over, y'all going too hard on each other. Who was I'll start with you, man, who was the toughest fight up to this point in your career?

Why I feel like my toughest fight was the the you know, the Tony Harrison fight because they had they came in with different game plans. They moved the first fight, you know, the first fight because in two thousand and eighteen, I wasn't developed like mentally like I am developed now. You know. It's crazy that I only say that, but

you know, two years make a big difference, you know. Um, I just felt like, you know, the movement, you know, the height, just so so many different things that I have to adapt to in the midst of thirty six minutes, you know, and it wasn't something that we y'all prepared for. And then you know, like, I don't know, man, I feel still like I want to fight no matter what. But you know, I pushed myself way more than he did in the fight. That's why I feel like I wanted.

I feel like I was more aggressor and stuff. But yeah, I guess, I guess, you know, to fight. I lost. You know, the fight that they make more controversial than any fight, you know, was my toughest one. What about you, My toughest fighter was probably, uh the the I had this. I fought against Corea both on the date my brother,

Um actually got row for his title. That was kind of one of my toughest fights only because you know, I was getting ready for a different softball and then five days before the fight, he tested positive for steroids, so they switched in this other guy that had been already trained and getting ready for me, you know, on the on the fly. So I would just have to

go there and make the best adjustments. But at the same time, I had a lot going through my head because you know, I'm like, damn, you know, they robbed my brother with they're just trying to pull some you know, scander ship tonight. But it is what it is. It's one of my you know, one of my toughest fights, but not one of the toughest fighters out of fought. One of the toughest fighters have probably been Julian Williams undefeated. It was another God knocked him out, but he was

just another tough dude. But that you know, came in with a lot of heart, you know, But it is, it is what it is. Yeah, I was about to say that that couldn't have been a tough fight because the night they robbed your brother, you beat the ship out that dude. Well to the world they still thought like, oh man, that was a close fight, because you know, the guy landed some punches early on in the fight. But I had to shake my head, you know, and get my head clear, you know, just seeing my brother

lose for the first time never in my life. That ship was kind of like, you know, it had messed with me mentally, but I shook it off and then you know, then I went to destroyer. But the toughest fighter, like I said, it had to been Julian Williams. He talked a lot of crapshot to intimidate me, but it only woke up the fire. You know, everybody was talking next to me and my twin brother. We usually knocked him out, and that was just something that I was

going for. You guys are known for knockouts. What has been each of you? What has been your most gratifying knockout? Mind was when I was when I knocked on Looping in the first round. Yeah, like Achilles, ye doesn't that stuff? And one of my favorite knockouts probably was that Julian william knock knock out, you know, just flushing him, put them down. But you know, like we don't never go to the knockout. They just come so we surprised ourselves. But that upper cut was that upper cut? It was?

It was the upper cut. Then I just flourished them with a whole bunch of punches at the end, just to sit them down. Talk to us obviously, because you guys are a little over a week out from your fight. What is your guys are training regiment your preparation. Do you guys talk every day still? Do you guys compare camps? Like? Is it completely separate? Talk our talk to our fans and your fans about what what a normal training camp is like leading up to a fight. Man, the fire

lit right now, the fire lit. Me and my twin brother. We talked to each other. We we even asked each other what you're eating, what you're weigh what you know? We we want to feel with each other feel at the moment spawn everything is good right now, like honestly, Um, the closer it gets to the fight, the better it is for us. But you know, it is what it is. You know, we always uh asking each other good questions and keeping each other intact. You have to cut a

little bit more weight. Can you tell us what that's like? Because I don't think people understand how tough that ship is. I mean, being a professional athlete, I didn't really have to cut much weight. Jack walked around the same as he did back then. What is it like having to cut you know, ten fifteen pounds? How tough is that to actually do? Couldn't wait us like the fight, that's the fight for us. Once we could wait, we are Once we could wait, we're good to go. You know

what I'm saying. So, um, the fight has already won. And we trained hard no matter what. So uh, you know, just having to eat smaller portions, and and then you know, you get a little thirsty. You can't drink that. You can't drink that same sweet juice that you used to used to drink on the sweet tea. You gotta have a little glass of water, and the water gotta be half of that glass. So you don't you pour fullard glass.

You're gonna down it, you know what I'm saying. So but giving your body just the right energy and the right nutrients that it needs at that time, that's how we you know, that's how we cut. But it couldn't wait't too too hard. But it's it's always a challenge. It ain't never easy. Who got the most cars? Yeah, I think my brother got he got more cars than me. Cars in fashion or something you guys are both into. Obviously money helps that, but what what what drove the

passion of fashion? Then cars? And I see one y'all got a big gass house. I'm figuring the other one got a big gass house too, So what drove all that? You know? Hunger Man? Honestly man? Growing up uh with me and my brother grew up at we really didn't have much, you know, um, especially like when they come to like cars and we used to watch the older

athletes them the vents in the sport. They always you know, backed on their cars, and it was just a thing about you know, being a boxer like you know, uh, we like we like flashy stuff, you know, big house, big cars, big family. They call me big Charlotte, so you know that's where they go from, you know, he said, why that's why they call you stack right, It's just I'm trying to everything big in Texas, teeth included. But

go ahead, who's the better addresser of y'all too? I know y'all both keeping keep you as She's a bet addresser, Man, I ain't a lot to you, Like, I don't really want to. I don't really want to. You know, take my brother like not a better dresser than me, because like you know, y'all try going to be missing right now, you're trying to. I just want to know some twins ship. I just want to dress though. We both got some style.

So whenever you put on something, I'm like, all right, you know, I just think my brother he goes he goes to the extreme with extreme extreme. You know. I think like when people when we put on like ties and soups and stuff, he can't touch me, you know, I just I'll do him that way. But he'll come out of nowhere with some like Kanye Urban mixed with some you know you missed it up. I'm just what I want to wear, you know what I'm saying. I wear whatever I want to wear. Like you know, I'm

not really worried about like you know, you take chances. Look, I just like the weapons that I like to wear, you know what I mean? My brother, you know, like he said, he's gonna he is gonna trying to mix it up and give you like you know, I know he don't be comfortable in the things he's wearing, and

I don't like I like to wear it. I like to wear you know, as simple as that, I really talked, I really talked about the dress like like eleven, twelfth grade, like he was in like um in an alternative school, so he really wasn't dressing like yet. And then you know I brought him to like yeah, I mean my twin brother. You know, he back to the regular school. That happened once. That happened one semester, one semester. I love this. This ship sat like my house though. I

love it. Maybe if everything is a competition, I'm better than you. Whatever is. This ship is funny. I love it. How has it been being able to balance family life being fathers but during a pandemic, but still training. That's just a lot of different ship on top of a lot of different ship. It's easy. You know, we both got big cribs and so we both got gyms at our house, and you know, I got to do it stay away from people. So that's easy for us to do.

You know, I ain't nothing to get outside and just get your work in be a boxer. Then my coaching, you know, that was the hard thing for me having my coach come in and out of town so um and not be around nobody. It was like nobody want to catch planes and stuff. So I bought a bus, you know, I bought a bus travel back and forth from from from Houston, and Dallas already had a sprinter, but I end up buying a real pre Bots bus so I could have a bed in there to lay down.

And that's gonna make it easier to wake up you and Dallas go to sleep you back in Houston. It was just easier. What about you, man, It's been easy for me. You know. Um, I got like one of the biggest bubbles in America. So I just you know, stay around here at the crib. Uh, play me some full club basketball whatever here go there. That's all right, all right, that's your time basketball, right, you know what,

we smoke like. I do everything we could. I got, you know, a volleyball team if you want to play, you know what I mean, like your brothers. Your brother's way, he got game brot dunking. I'm dunking. I'm doing all this stuff you're doing. I got a full court at home too. I told Matt hey man, go back to that Instagram pitch I posted, I was right there by you, Like, you're not that much bigger than me, dude, Like I

promised like that that that that's the difference. I'm telling you, like, it's a lot of you know, I'm strong now, you know. He he said, He's doing everything we're doing on the court. Matt, He said, I'm telling you the only thing I'm doing on the court right now, smoking. I know you ain't doing that, So you ain't doing nothing that I'm doing. This is gonna be your first time. How do you

guys feel about not having fans? I mean, obviously, me and Jack being former players, we knew how much energy they brought to the arena every time, get the goose bumps. We do it for our fans. The NBA has been been auble to adapt with you know, you know, alternative sounds and and and crowds from the computer. You guys ain't gonna have that of that. How do you think it's gonna be just in there, going to war with with with no fans? I mean, fans gonna be crazy,

you know, not having a fans. It's just it's gonna be different. It's gonna be like hoigh level though. You know, I believe the fans could be a more distraction than anything. So not having fans gonna make your i Q sharper. It's gonna make you your hit harder. You're gonna hear your sound. You're gonna you're gonna, you know, you hit that body, You're gonna want to hit it harder because whatever, you know, they're doing a lot of they're doing a

lot of uh COVID, you know, nineteeing precautionary stuff. So you know, I respect it, you know, so if you want to get in there and making some money, you gotta go in there and fight with in the depth. It's part of the adversity to me. Me, it's just like you know, um, true, remain comfortable. You know, it's already uncomfortable situation, just going there. Remain comfortable. Um y'all see Lebron, Lebron had a hard time coming back. When he first came back um to the bubble, he wasn't

performing the same way he was used to. Like, you know, the crowd gonna get on their feet every time he done that. We're not we don't know right now because we haven't fought without no fans, but we know its fans always watching us um at all times. You know, so any given, any given moment to fight cou change. So we we gotta stay stay focused, stay z ro inn, stay locked in. We're gonna get these dubs. We're still gonna be supporting from a far bro. Trust, We're gonna

be locked in. Pew. You already know there. It is self promo. Jack. You want to say anything, Jack, you want to jump in this conversation, I have been go ahead? Is he talking about y'all should spart each other? Bro? I would do it. I boxed a couple of times a week. I think it'd be dope. I'm always down this far see saying Matt, No, I'm down to do that too. But this is my thing, Bro, I only have one speed and I don't want to put that.

I don't want I don't want to want to expend that on my brother, just like yeah, I only go I'm step for it two years old. I'm a grown man. I have one speed. I can't play fight. I don't know how to. You can't work later though, you know what I'm saying. You gotta keep your composure. Come on, keep your composure man, I ain't got that, bro, I ain't got being real, I ain't got it's a zero, honey, We're going to war straight up, ain't. And I don't have no hate in my heart for my brother, so

I can't give him that energy. That's how I feel them all. I want to spoil my brother so bad, but I'll just you know, I just litally want to spar me. I promise you don't. I really want to spoil you again. Good on you, bro, just I know you're good, bro trainer, but when I lift my training, I feel like I got better. But I ain't gonna Let's let's let's just say Stack said. Let's everybody just say what Stack said. You. You know, Stack, you doing

a good job being a peacemaker these days. You know, uh fight fight for injustice, and I don't want to, you know, go through any of that with y'all. So hey, this is this is a different type of sport, it's a different type of chemistream. You know, we don't share that. I told me. I told Matcha was comedy down. He did not believe it. I told him, No, I'm serious, No, I'm serious, like I'm serious, joke. I feel like you Matt, I feel like, man like I'm down this farm. You

know what I'm saying. Just keep the energy, you know, keep it, keep it. You know, way you got a full court. I got a full court. Let's see who make the most threes or something. N you want to fight. That's a whole different. You just told him I'm great, I've been good for I'm a great doc. He mall after the fight, you said you never put a dog in a pin with a lion to find lines only, and your in your mind lines only. You know, you

gotta be a survival when you step in there. You know it's like a real lion to go through with me and my brother been through um. But like you know, you gotta you gotta know how to win. You gotta know how to prevail. You gotta know how to change during adversity, make the best adjustments in that. And sometimes they get away with trying to put these little dogs in the line pin, but you know it slipped by

sometimes and they run up out of there. Though. So to to really survive where we from and to come through the things that we've been through, you got to be a real line. Everyone's starting their own promotions now, similar to what Floyda is doing. Have you guys got any advice from him or anyone else in the process that you gotts start on your own stuff? Like my brother don't My brother don't really like Floyd, Like, I don't know why my brother just keeps you know, Uh,

I don't know. I like Floyd Mayweather thinking you a griend. I get advice from I get advice from you know him. You know, he does a lot for us. He tell me a lot, you know, what to do and how to do it. There's so many fighters in the game that want to sign with lines only they just want to you know. But a lot of people want to be in your shoes, and that's just what it is. Sometimes they don't have the same fighting in them, like, but you know, they want to be a lion. A

lot of people out there are lions. A lot of people got that line lifestyle where they sit back a few times and all they gotta do is just go out there and work a little bit at Harvard. How we are you know, we sit back, we just enjoy the weather, and then all of sudden we get a phone call. It's time to go. All right, it's time to go. Live on pay per viewers were fighting. That's that's a whole nother level we're turning up. So you know, we know how to get our bodies ready for that.

We know how to train, we know how to take it to the next level. That's all it's about. But like I said, my brother don't like nobody in his waight division. Do you like anybody in your weight division? I'm trying to get that all right, So Floyd be jumping in and out of boxing, you know, alone, Leave Floyd, I am. I left him alone. You told me leave Floyd alone, don't I am? Because I don't want it

to look like it's some cloud chasing. I don't want to look like it's some like just a real fighter, dog. I'm just a real fighter. So you come back and you're trying to fight in meg and you're fighting in my weight like you're the living near champion in my weight. What am I supposed to say if I'm the champion trying to get all of the belts? I know, But we're talking about Floyd Man already he already finished done. I respect, I respect he's done to the game of boxing.

Respect for boxing, said in YouTube. Now I can see how you just be he'd be pushing the ship out your buttons. I can see it nice and come like nice and come to make it even matter. Like, man, what the fund are you talking about? Come on, man, we got bigger fights coming up. And I know I know, but I just want to let it be known. If if he ever was to say, hey, you know, I want to fight a real boxer, I'm here for I'm

here for it. That's like a fantasy matchup. Well let it be have y'all ever fought with yourselves on the video games? Nah? Man, they need to come back out with Fight Night and knock Out Kings and all that. Let's start on the video game. Mall. Let's start it. You need to do, man, because I can't wait to see myself on the video game. You guys have never got that chance yet. No, man, Lion's Only Boxing. That's the game right there, Lions Only Boxing. We're gon We're

gonn find some money for that. Do you guys have anybody underneath the Lion's Only brand right now that that is coming up that we need to be on the lookout for. You guys still looking for people? Well, we're still working on our roster. Honestly, we're still building up our roster. And my brother got a few fighters, but we I mean, you know, like I got a few fighters, but um, like, like I said, we're still building them right now. But I got an artist, My brother got

an artist. I think, you know, we got our thing going. Who are some of the boxers you guys looked up to growing up? Man? I was a big Roy Jones fan. Yeah, I like running far As Chico, Diego corralis you know, uh yeah, looking yeah holy Field. My brother liked a lot of heavyweights. I liked a lot of people that was like Lewis was a dope fighter like too. Then we liked the Clisscos because they were anytime we was like we was on on the TV. Yeah, yeah, boy too.

I like Diego Diego is my boy too. We like the the real brothers growing up LaMonte Peterson, any brothers, we kind of we kind of always looked up to the brothers in the spot. But like that's just one of the things we did different vibe. Yeah, what about you, man? I was a big Matthic Johnson fan. Grant Hill Um, I was a Laker fan growing up, you know, from California. So the showtime. Hell, yeah, you already know it's all good. I don't know what. I just wanted to know. I

just wanted to know. Yeah, I grew up you know, like I said, I grew up a Laker fan, Magic, Grant Hill, guys like the guys who could do a little bit of everything on the court. You know that. That's kind of always you know, both of y'all was like some basketball players that was known for fighting though, like Stacks Stacked that Indiana that Indiana fights you had that was crazy, you know what I mean, you see right,

you see right. I was just want to say that somebody, somebody was teaching you at the time spring training he did you learned that in Texas you and Jermaine on us. Man, it's going damn jail. Jail slipped on the court when he threw that right then, or he would have knocked that whole dude's face. Correction, Matt, he slipped and still knocked him out. What I'm saying, if he didn't slip, he could have been a casualty. A real life we're leaving the real leaving the arena, mat on the bus

and we see dude on the stretcher. They carried them out of the stretcher watching that like as a kid growing up, like, damn, it's going down, because you know, you only see that on on the in the park at the basketball court. You see football football players, like you don't really see basketball players getting it in. Like

it was crazy too because I was playing. I was in Sacramento at the time, so we was just about to leave our locker room and we all, like the whole we made the second half start late because the whole team and coaches was in there watching that ship go down while we were Like I said, while we was at halftime of our game, that ship was crazy. When you guys listen to me, I heard when you said, you guys rap? What are y all listening to right now? Man? I'm normally just keep a little smooth um. I like

Free a new album. That drop I listened to, uh take can't be cool. Chris Brown my dog, so I'm always rock with him. He dropped, Yeah, everything he dropped. I'm listening to that. So it's just like I think he's our generation. Michael Jackson. Yeah, generation Michael Jackson probably

be Drake right now. You know, no, no, no, no dance, but I know, but far as we need to drop music, we're not talking about Drake dancing and music music wise, Chris Brown is the guy legend alright, So I know that was going to turn into this because you know it turned into like this every time, like when we talked about music. But like I said, like Chris, alright, we alright, Stack, we know Chris Brown anything, he Kingdom music man, he could r bro So we're in the

same click. All right, I'm always being too hard, but you can't. You can't take nothing away from Drake, everything Drake with all. Yeah, it's last forever. You know what I'm saying. You can't. You can't take nothing away from Drake. Like they're both holding it down for the light Skins. So we're good on that. Yeah, but you still got the young guys like you still got like uh he steady dropping heat. Uh baby baby, steady dropping heat. They pulled up for the two maybe somebody, you know what

I'm saying, from what Detroit. They're doing good, Like you know what I'm saying, like young thug kind of go hard, like young music. Who you're having from Houston, who you're jamming from from home? Though the Lord the Killer, I've ben listen to them. Yeah, Killer Killer always been a cold rapper. Killer always been one of the you know, cold rappers. That's that's in the game right now. But from home, un I really, uh, you know, the music

is changing, man, used to music keep changing. They're going from like you know, like you hear something code like the Sauce Twins here and there, you know, like you know, then you'll hear something like you know, Uhcana drop something. Proplane is real lyrical from Houston. But like I said, Killer Killer CALLI On is like one of the he was one of the little brand my artist, little Brent, Little Brent. Y'all gonna check him out, Yeah, shout a little brand he go hard. Who do you guys walk

out to? Who who you listen to right before a fight? You're a particular artists, particular soul man. I'm I like old school music before I go to a fight, like I liked, Um, I like my classics. You know, um, you might even hit me listening to some parts some days. Just keep my you know. Um, I almost considered, almost considered Nipsey a classic. Now you're like, you know, I like Nipsey like it's just all all classic music. For me, I like to touch a rhythm, so you know, it's

all about the beat and the rhythm to me. So no, and then there's no audience too. So i'm i'm I'm CB straight up. I listen to music right when you get you're gonna sip slip music in there, obviously not looking ahead your next opponent, your most important opponent. But without looking ahead, who were maybe a couple of guys eat you would like to fight at some point already know you already you know it's gotta be Canello, has gotta be triple J. You know what I mean. The

skouis the limit right now. We we'll go up in class. We'll go you know, I might let my brother take over one sixty, I go up to sixty eight. You know, the skies the limit coming soon. You know, you never know what you're gonna expect out of all of us. Are the one fifty four right now? So my my, my eyes on whoever got a belt right now? Um? But like yeah, true, I gotta get we gotta get to it. You want me to go to sixty, I ain't. I can go up to six year olds now I

want you to hold it down. Yeah, I'm holding down. I'm holding down now. What a question with with Canello initially signing that big old deal and obviously you know during court right now with Golden Boy, because things aren't smooth or a sweet as they talk to Where do you guys think about that when you think about the business of boxing, Boxing is real, big politics, sport, you know,

um Man, Unfortunately Canello going through it right now. You know, I don't want to kick him in while you're down, but a cross sides, bro, come back over here man, you know over here in North America, Um, showtime becoming a coming to show time. Bro. You know, you know you've got a good spot over here, some great fights over here. But you know, uh, it's unfortunate that he didn't get the chance to fulfill his deal. And you know,

they gotta go through whatever they gotta go through. But hopefully it don't stop him from uh some big fights, you know, um him and go the boy going through it. I mean, he in a bad situation right now, a lot of people, but hopefully you know, you know, I could make some money with him and maybe he can cash you. I would clearly clears debt something I don't know what. What should your guys as fans expect? Uh? Coming up with you guys, first double double headliner fight.

What's your fans expect? Man? Two wins, two wins, two knockouts. That's gone. Hey, man out wards, we got swollen faces. Whatever we want, I'm trying to go get it. Come back home in the war. They want to see us in the war. They got a war, and we got a war. I'm gonna be kicked up in my movie room. Two or three joints, A couple of dreams and enjoin all of you. Can't wait. Lastly, man, what do you guys want to be remembered as when it's all set

and done in this morning of boxing? There's been a lot of greats, A lot of people have held titles. What do you guys want your legacy to be in this sport? I mean, I say big as a cliss goes, you know, like are bigger? You know, like we want to be champions together, like we were in the same weight division again. Uh, if that's possible. We just want to be legends. Legends you know where people follow our platform and they recognize every time they see is they're

like Dom, don't dom do Those animals? They dogs and they look out for people. There was good people. You know. We don't just want people to think we're some crazy warriors that just walk around, you know, banging their best against the pos and stuff. We want people to understand that we're really serious about the sport of boxing and we're passionate and we love We love the game, but

we love life as well and family. Legendary. Man, we're definitely going down in the history books as um, two of the greatest twins that ever box and put the laces up a pair of gloves. Um. We meet it with passion and you know, we're passionate fighter. So you know they get a chance to see it. They actually have one good question. I know you'll probably see them, but it's it's these two lists that are twins that be on i G, that be training each other. Have y'all seen them on I G. Yeah, we do the

same thing that what is it? The great e Twins? They did great. They're gonna be good and they're gonna be good. Shout out to the greaty Twins. That's cool. I've been we've been watching it for a few years. Now. Yeah, they're gonna bead for our fans, for your fans, tell them, tell them where they can find you upcoming and what's that? Uh? Where where can they find you? Tell us about your fight and about yourself right now, Showtime pay per View,

September twenty six A double head of Jamaal Charlotte, Jamale Charlotte. Yeah, it's the Charlotte Twins. We're back. We're coming through. Hey, y'all, keep you a lot. We're forced to be reckoning. Now you'll get a chance to really see what we got. We got some great opponents and hey, let's do it.

We cut us behind the scenes. That can also cutch us behind the scenes ringside with the Lions, and they can also Uh that's on YouTube YouTube World rings Out with the Lions on I G twin Charlotte Future of Boxing. The next fight is coming up big next week. Six in. Man, we appreciate you guys as time today. Uh, stay blessed you and your families, and we're looking forward to seeing you guys on the twenty six. Man, can't wait. Appreciate you. Hold on and then after that we're gonna kick it.

Because you said I was acting funny in Vegas. I'm gonna have we got to get the cupkicking. I'm gonna fly to us to the cupcake and we're gonna get down. Good luck, God, blessed, appreciate man, can't stay alive. Love bro. That's a wrap for the Charla Twins World Champions to see yall next time. Two world champions. They happen to be twin brothers. Well the ingredients are there. Two guys who love to sit down to their puntrs and throw that firepower. I'm not scared of nobody, and I'm definitely

not scared as when we're talking. There's no one in the division that can beat me. There's no one in the division that strong as me. It would definitely deliver a statement the powers for real. We even get a chance to let everyone in the world see the great things that me and my twin brother has a drunk in the quarter box ch You know, the same card gives us a unergy. We we want to be charged, we want to be at our best. Yeah, we're gonna both meet in the middle of the ring and we're

gonna let our hands go. Let the best men win. They are boxing and a pound for pound. This is All a Smoke. A production of The Black Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime