Jayson Tatum | Ep 35 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

told nobody. I want to out the smoke. Welcome back to another Quarantine edition of All the Smoke with my brother Stack five. What's up with you, bro? Quarantine on the scene. What's going on? Bro? Quarantine? And mean staying off that green you did? Yeah, I'm I'm full of that constantly. You get a chance to watch uh Hardwood Classics had our game four on last night against Dallas Oh seven, Hey, and what a co Wincid is and

crunch time. I backed little Jason Terry down, spin off of him and they collapsed on me and I kick it to the right guests. Who's there? My brother page Row. I got a lot of homes off that. I got a lot of Hey, I got a lot of holes off that shot. I might have got the twins based off that shot. Yeah, that shot were popping. Man was crazy. Man. We got a special guest man, one of the best young talents in the game. Uh, one of my favorite players. You had been straight up been one of my favorite

players since he came in the league. Boston Celtics very own Jason Tatum. Welcome to the show, bro Bro St. Louis. What's up? And I appreciate you. I haven't we Uh we got a chance to interview Bradley Beale earlier today too, so we know he had on the St. Louis had to come on. Many boys hold it down. That's one thing about us. And you know somebody from St. Louis, they're gonna let you know about it. Shout out the mouse straight up. So how are you, man, How how

are you in the family holding up right now? With the you know, with the world coming to a halt. I'm doing good. Um, you know, every day seemed about the same. Um. You know, I got my mom my son up here, so I'm getting good and I'm just enjoying quality time. So I'm trying. Are you still able to work out at all? Yeah? I got it like a little gym, in the in the in the garage. Uh, you know, I make it do do what they do. But um, I just got a hoop in the in

the driveway. Uh, get some shots because I ain't touched the ball since since our last game and I think it was Indiana. What was that scared like knowing that one of your being a father first to form us, but knowing that one of your teammates got sick. Was there was there a panic or you knew you were in the near him and talk talk to me what your thought wasn't in the locker room? Stop when Marcus Smart came down with the Yeah, so we was when

the season got suspended. We was in Milwaukee, uh, because we're about were supposed to play him the next day and the season got suspended. So the next day we flew home and I think that was like a Thursday. And then that Saturday we all got tested because we just played the Jazz about like a week ago. So, um, all the test didn't come in at the same time. They were like they got mixed in with I guess

you know, other people's tests. So it took like a week, week and a half of our test to come back uh, and Smart was kind of one of the first guys to get his results back in and we all knew. So when when he found out, I still didn't know yet, So I was still I was nervous, but at the same time, like I wasn't around my mom or my son, Like I just stayed at my house because they told us to, you know, stay inside for about two weeks.

But uh, you know, Smart said he was doing fine, and um, you know, luckily nobody else tested positive, so we was a right, Yeah, that's a scary time, especially being a father, you know, I mean I couldn't imagine having to Chris Paul told us a story where similar he was getting tested, he came home to l A and he hadn't got his results yet, so he had to sit in his car and his driveway until his kids went to sleep, and then when the kids went to sleep, he snuck and stayed in the isolated bedroom

until the end. He happened to get his results that next morning. You know, So that ship is scary, especially you know when when when you could possibly bringing home to the fam. M hmm. Recently you teamed up, you know, was a fellow of St. Louisan Bradley Beal uh and raised almost three hundred thousand dollars for uh St. Louis Area Food Bank. Um, you guys have teamed up and and and did pizzas recently. Tell us where that charitable stuff comes back came from, because we we often don't

get a chance to highlight that. And not that you do it to get highlighted, but I think it's great when guys like yourself are really out there in the community trying to help people. Yeah, so we I did it with through my foundation, um, the Jayson Tatum Foundation. I was sitting here with my mom. We was thinking of a way that we could, you know, help and

get back to where I'm from. And you know, for me, that's all I'm always thinking about what can I do, you know, for the people back home in St. Louis, because you know, for those that don't know St. Louis Is, it's not like any other you know, one of those big cities. Um, you know, people a lot of people from St. Louis. We don't come from much. You know, we don't have a lot and you know, growing up, you know, we all kind of grew up in the

same area. So you know, Brad is another person that you know really helps and give us back to St. Louis. And he's like my big brother. So when I called him, you know, with the idea, you know, how we can help raise money and donate money back home to help those in need during this time that that's not going to work and don't know where the next meal coming from. Um, you know, he was on board. And you know for St. Louis,

the raised three hundred thousand dollars in two weeks. Like that was that was incredible, you know because you know, like you said, St. Louis Is, you know, a small city. You know, there's a lot of crime and poverty. So for them to come together and raise that type of money and that's the donated was a big deal. It's a beautiful thing. Hall of Fame class KG Kobe Tim duncan tell me some of your memberies and what's your

thoughts of that elite group man? Well, for me, you know obviously, you know, especially watching this Jordan documentary and and hearing people like around you guys age and older, like how my dad talked about Jordan's really made me realize like that was Kobe for me, Like Kobe was was my Jordan's the reason. He was the reason I started playing basketball. Like you know, I had all the jerseys, all the shoes. I want to be just like them.

So you know, Kobe was Jordan's for me, um and and Kevin Garnett was Kevin Garnett was was my dad favorite player. So I remember anytime anytime the Celtics played the Sons and him and the mart started, Marrow matched up, like my pops will call me, like yo, turn on TV. The two animals playing against each other. Jens is man and the March started. Mark was was againster too. You got to spend time with Cobe and and talk to

him and and help work on your game. Talk to us a little bit about that, because I think that is that's amazing. Yeah, it was. I met Kobe a couple of times growing up. Um my dad best friend Larry Hugh. So when Larry played on Cleveland one time for my birthday, like fourth grade, I went to when they played the Lakers. I took a picture with Code.

Then I met him at the sps UM when I was in college, and then after my rookie year, during my rookie year in the playoffs, has when he started doing a detail thing and I remember he did one on me in the playoffs and he and he texts me. He texts me, he was like, you know, keep doing your thing. I'm watching, you know. After the summer, after the season, you know, hit me up anytime you in l A. We get to work together. I was like,

I like dropped my phone. I couldn't believe it. So I remember, I remember the first day, the first day that summer I got to l A. As soon as I landed, I texted. I was like, yo, I'm in l A for a couple of weeks. You know, I know you're probably busy, but if you got any time, I let it in the gym. I remember he ain't text me back for like four days, Like it was in four days. Let him texting me. And as soon as he texts, I texted like twenty seconds back, like

I responded fastest ship. And then uh, you know, we we met like twice before we actually worked out. Like I went to us his office and he showed me around when he was writing books and stuff like that, and then uh, and then we got to work out. So it was like that was a dream come true for me. Tell us a little bit about what those workouts were liking and what you took away, because like we all know, I mean, his attention to detail is

second and none. Uh my kids were lucky enough to work out with him for their little tenth birthday surprise, but he was putting them through some real NBA footwork. Pivot attention to detail. How precise was he and what did you take away from those workouts with him? Yeah, he did a lot of at tension to detail. Um, it was it was it wasn't really anything that I,

you know, I couldn't do. It was you know, a bunch of moves that I that he's seen me do and that he did, and it was all like little little things to think about the uh you know that's what That's what I really took like took from It was like the little things like what that he would think about that I really never heard anybody else like

how they approached the game. But maybe it's like some of the greats there, but you know, for him to to to give me some of that knowledge right then and there, and and just the little things and on on the jab step and you know, creating separation and getting this little bit of space and it was like I was, I was just like a kid in the candy start. I was like, I kept like talking to myself like, you know, I'm working out with Kobe, Like I couldn't believe it at the time. That's dope. And

two thousand nineteen you signed with Jordan's. Jack used to be a Jordan Brand They cut his boxes off though. Tell me how that how that situation came about it, how excited you wore for that opportunity? No, I was. I found we started, my agents started working on it, uh like in a offs my second year, so last year, and then, um, you know, when it finally came about, when we finally you know, negotiated and figured everything, I was on board. I was excited, and um you know,

we took a trip. The jordan Brand family took a trip to to Monte Carlo and Paris this summer and that was kind of like my introduction to Jordan Brand, to the world and meeting all the guys. And the first time I really like sat down and talked to m j Uh. I got a funny story. I was, I was in I was in Paris and I met I met mja earlier this morning to the introduction, and like I did a bunch of media and then that

night we had a dinner. So it was like Meller was there, Blake was there, Russ, Spike Lee, like it was everybody was there. So I remember, I'm still nervous, right, So I walked in MJ sitting down his white next to him and Spike next earth. So I walked in and I was, I'm gonna stay what's up to him? Far I sit down? So I'm like I talked to him earlier, like we had like a whole conversation, like I kind of know him. But then I'll walk over to him and like my hand starts sweating, and I

was like, what's uping Mike? When I went to go shake his hand, I knocked over his knocked over his wine glass on the table when it broke. Uh, I was like, let me get a nack and let me let me help you out. He was like, he's like, young, fella's cool. It's good right. I turned throughout like, yo, I'm tripping the fun that I just speaking to Mike. What are your thoughts being able to see? Because you were young, very young? Uh, you know when Mike was

making his run. Uh, Me and Jack have loved reminiscent and kind of scene because Mike was the one superstar for us that we never really got to see the other side that we saw m J the hooper and then we see the businessman, but we didn't really get to see the personal side of him. What have you What have you been able to take away from seeing the Last Dance? It's really it's been. It's been incredible. Um because I was born in so I never I

never saw MJ play live. Really maybe it's last year in like oh three, when I was like four or five. I don't really remember much, but you know, growing up, my dad like it was all m J highlights. He's like, I know you love Kobe, but Kobe got got all this from Mike. I used to watch show Me Mike highlights all the time, so I understood. I always understood, like, no, Mike,

Mike the greatest, like he'd got for a reason. But just like actually, you know, watching it in real time now and and this documentary has been Uh, I loved this so far. I can't wait till next Sunday. Yeah, straight up, to take us back to your early days, what was it like growing up being raised by a single mom. Uh, it was it was tough. Um. You know, I grew up with a single mom. You know, my dad was around, but I lived with my mom. Uh

you know, they had me. I think they were seniors in high school or right like right after they graduated high school, so you know, they was young and you know, growing up in St. Louis with you know, not having much and um just kind of being in that environment. Um. You know, you, like most people, you don't really know that you you you pour you don't have it until you grow up or until get around people. Yeah, until you do things like that. So, uh, you know, I

love St. Louis. St. Louis Is is the biggest, one of the biggest reasons you know why I am who I am today and always, you know, go home as much as possible and and show love whenever I can. Uh, you know, just because it it got me to where I am. And you know, we all we all got stories and situations of you know a lot of guys that came from the same place as us, but you know a couple of mistakes of a way that they

didn't you know, make it. And you know, I tell people all the time people ask me like, you know why, you know, why are you so confident? Or you know, what was your biggest fear? You know, growing up? And I always want to, you know, play basketball and being NBA, and I never felt like I wasn't good enough or I didn't have the talent, you know. My I tell people my biggest fear all the time was just going up in St. Louis. Just being at the wrong place in the wrong time. I was. That was for me

going up. You know, it's just always all the time. Bro. Yeah, it's really like being at the wrong place at the wrong time. It's scary, especially you know, back in St. Louis. So I think God every day. You know, I was able to live up my dream. It sounds like your mom was a superstar. You know. I lost my mom

and that's how Jack and I became brothers. But you know, your mom was taking college classes and taking you with her, was able to earn her bachelor and law degree, all while working two jobs and never missing the game or practice for you. So, I mean, definitely shout out to moms for all the sacrifice when you're at today, man, for sure, Yeah, my mom she super mom. She my mama. She a gangster for real, Like I tell that, imam. When did you fall in love with the game? What

age man is like? When I was probably like two or three, as long as I can remember, like my dad played the St. Louis University played overseas. You know, from my earliest memories, I had always had a ball in my hand at ball in the crib and then as soon as I could start watching and remember like Kobe was he was it for me? Like I was like, and I want to be I want to be Kobe. And my mom was like, no, you you want to be a player, like you want to be an NBA

like Kobe. I'm like no, Like I want to be Kobe. I want to with a frow, I wont number eight. That was like it was. I loved like that he was he was Jordans for me, and he was like the reason I started playing basketball. What was it like being a high school basketball star? Like I played in the McDonald's All American Game, I went to Old Kill You know, I think having that exposure definitely gave me a lot of confidence in myself. But what what was

it like to you? What what was being a high school star, like for you, I think being a high school star, especially growing up with with social media. Um, I feel like it was differ from kind of when y'all girl because we had social media, camera phones was out, So I wasn't like a normal high school kid. Um, you know, I grew up where I grew up. I went to a different high school. I went to my mom for me in a private school, uh college, Shamana

College Prep. So it was an all boy Catholic school, and um, you know the kind of like really have me focused? And it was all boys school, so you know, wouldn't girls weren't a distraction and you know I was focusing on my books. Yeah. I mean I had a son when I was nineteen, So I'm glad. I'm boy boy had a couple of them before that. Huh yeah yeah yeah, Now trust me too. He might if I went to a public school, he might have been like five, he might do or or he might have had he

might have had a brother or sister with him. Already, you're you're going into going into your senior in high school. You verbally commit to Duke over North Carolina over Kentucky, and and your mom and dad's alma mater St. Louis. What was that process like? In White Duke, it was tough because I had built a relationship with Roy Williams. Um, I built a relationship with Jim Cruz who was at SLEW and Caliperia Kentucky. But only I only took one official visit. I took the official visit of my junior

year UH two Duke, and UM, I wanted. I wanted to commit on the spot. UM, I love I love Coach K to death. UM, you know, just being in that environment and and talking to all the players and the amount of the guys that graduated that that come back to games and practices and you know, just the bond that they all had. I really wanted that. And um, you know, growing up, I didn't really think that like guys from St. Louis like we'll go to Duke. I didn't think. I didn't think that was like a thing.

And then when I started getting recruited by like, uh it was cool, and just talking to Coach K and and being in Cameron and um enjoying the game there. I wanted to commit on the spot. And my dad was like hold on, Like we ain't been to other schools yet relaxed and I was like, no, I need to go to another school, like I want to know.

And that in my junior year, they won the national championship and like two or three days later after they won, Coach k Um, they flew to my house, UM Coach Capood and John Shire and when I had an in home visit. Now I remember, it was like in April and I told him. I was like, Coach, I'm I'm coming to Duke and uh, you know, I didn't commit till later that summer like nationally, but I told him in April that I was I was coming to do So once you're there, what's your experience? Like? Tell me

what that college experience is like? Because you weren't there very long, But what was it like when you were there? No, man, I do that was like the most fun I ever had in my life. Um, just being a college kid, first time away from home, UM kind of you know, got more responsive abilities, becoming like a young man, UM, living on your own. That was that was new to me and you know, I enjoyed it. I had fun. Um. I still I'm close with a lot of the guys on the on the team that I was. I was

there for a year. UM, I still talked to the coaches all the time. I go back, uh in the summertime when I can. And after the season after we lost, UM, you know, I talked to coach K and obviously I wanted to go to the league, but it was a part of me that wanted to come back to Duke for another year. Like I had that much fun just being a college basketball player and and and enjoyed it. But Coach K was like, no, yeah, you gotta you gotta go. It's the one to get out out. You

gotta get up out of here. Yeah, that makes sense. What was it like planning that UNC robbery with Duke and that Duke and UNC robberie. What was that like? Oh man, it's it's it's way better than than what you could imagine. Um. At Duke, they kind of like

they got this thing called the the K Bill. Um, it's it's in front of our gym and and students literally like for forty forty five days before the game, they set up tents and like you gotta like you have a tent outside the arena to get in the game. So they sleep outside for like forty forty five days, forty five nights or something like that just to be able to get in the student section at the Duke game. M hm, that's insane. That's sane. Hey. You keep in

mind it's cold. It's cold as funk out there. Too cold. They'd be outside. It's like it's like a hundred tents outside and you can have up to like four or five people in the tent. That's insane. You played the fourth position at Duke. You played the four position to Duke. Did that help you or put you behind heading into the NBA? It helped me out a lot, because I think that's kind of where I came in that, you know, with the Celtics UM. You know, at first I didn't

I didn't know if it was gonna work. When I got to do UM, you know, and they put me at the floor. But you know, when I they looked fast forward to when I get to the Celtics UM. You know, my first the first game we played, you know, it was al Horford at the one. I was at the four, Gordon was at the three, JB was at the two, and Kyle was at the one. So I kind of been in that same position, you know since I've been in the league, and I mean, that's kind

of where basketball is at now. You got probably one big man and then three or four guys all around the same MICUs and a changeable one year in college you declared for the NBA draft. Was that it was that an easy, easy decision. I know you said your coaches like, now you gotta go and get this money. But that's an easy decision for you? Or was it was it highly influenced by coach? It was it was like it was an easy decision because it's like, man, ever since I was three, I was like I wanted

to play in the NBA. But then it was like, once I got the opportunity, I actually thought about it for a second, Like, man, I like part of me want to come back to Duke and and and try to win a national championship because I like, I really enjoyed my time to Duke that much, in the relationship I built with my teammates and like that that's real. So but then you know, then it's like, no, I

made the best decision for me and my family. And at the time I knew that, you know, I was about to have a I was expecting expecting the Sun. So that was the best decision for myself and my family. With the recent change of the game basically with Jalen Green and Isaiah Todd jumping uh straight to the D League and then you being like me, like, I absolutely love my time in U c l A. You said you loved your time at Duke. If you were in a position to do that, what what what would you do?

Knowing what you know about college? Would you take the money and go to the G League or would you go ahead and go to do It's tough because like, now knowring would I know? Now? I think I still might. I still might have went to do But if I like, if you just rewind four years and I'm eighteen coming out of high school from St. Louis and it's five thousand dollars, like I'm I'm going right to the G League for sure. I mean they gotta I need that. But I think they got to change what I think

I feel like they need to change in college. Um No, I think you should be able to make money off your likeness, Like if you if you're at a school, and like if I was at Duke and I woul want to say, like, hey, I want to host the autograph session on Saturday, you know, for for three hours and a signature, Like, I feel like you should be able to do that. M I completely agree. I think I think their outdated rules are going to have more and more people making that jump, you know what I mean.

To me, there's there's no other alternative because they're not gonna know what we know about college and how dupe college is. They can hear it. But then that five thousand sounds amazing plus a trainer, plus they're giving you money to go back to school if you really want to do that, you know what I mean. So that ship is hard to pass up. And I like the fact that the NBA is can get into their own hands now, like let's sweeten this pot and get these

kids right on them. But I think soon it's gonna be you're gonna be able to jump right back to the NBA straight out of high school. Anyway, two two thousand seventeen, the draft comes. Uh, Danny A just playing some mind games trades picks able to get you uh in the third spot. Uh. This is where Fluke Marquet went first, Zoe went second, You went third. I think Donovan Mitchell went thirteen whatever. Particularly, do you remember about Draft day in in in that rookie experience. Uh yeah,

he definitely played some mind games for sure. Um because it was like five, five days before the draft, because I remember Boston had the number one pick, and you know, everybody it was kind of like known, like the media was saying like Marquelle was going number one and Alonzo was in l A. So everybody knew Alonso was going to the Like I didn't even I didn't even work out for the Lakers because I just knew me and my agent was like, it's probably it's gonna be a

waste of time, like everybody, no lines are going to them. But two. So at the time, Philly was three and Phoenix Suns was four. So Philly, Phoenix, and Boston they came. I was in l A working out, so they came to watch me work out, and I remember, you know, I sat down and talked to him, and after I met with him, all I remember I was like, I think I'm going to Philly, like they had the third pick. You know, I had a good workout and I talked to Brett Brown and everything was cool. So I thought

I was going to Philly. But then I remember I went to Phoenix. This was a week before the draft. I went to Phoenix just to meet with Earl Watson and talk to the to the GM and see the facility. I didn't work out. I just wanted to go meet with everybody. Remember girl, Yeah, shout out Earls my god. Like I went out to I went to dinner with him the next day. I remember he picked me up. He had a white g wagon. He drove me around and showed me, like all the houses where the players

live at. I'm like, they just dope out there, ain't it. Phoenix is beautiful. The girl was my college girls, my point guard A C. L A. Yeah. I remember, I've called my I called my family, my mom. Like, I'm like, yo, I think I want to go to Phoenix. Like you. He's like you you come up, you come to Phoenix, you know you and the book Like he's like to light skin killers. I'm gonna let you all walk out. I'm like, I'm I'm sitting in the g I'm sitting in a car like, man, this sounds good. Like yeah,

Like I think I want to come here. So I remember I get back to my hotel. I'm about to fly back home for like two days ago before I go to New York and I'm sitting and my agent called me. He like Danny Danny Age called and said they're gonna trade their pick. They're gonna go to three and they want you to come to Boston and the next day to work out. I'm like, no, I don't want to go to Boston. Like I'm like, I like it out in Phoenix, Like it's cool, the weather knights,

I get a big house, I get a pool. My mom's gonna be all right. He's like, he's like brass Stevens a great young coach and they got a great history. I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that, like I want to go to Phoenix. So then he like my agents like just think about it. And then I'm so we hang up. I'm like, I'm not going to this workout like I'm cool. So then Coach Kay called me. Coach Kay called me right after my my agent did. He like, Jason, you know, the Celtics call, they want

you to come work out. You know, I think Brass Steves is a great coach, and you know, it's a great place to be. You'll learn a lot something like, uh, I'm like all right, so I go. So I remember that I flew to St. Louis that night. The next day I flew to Boston for another workout in Boston. So that was like, this is like three days before the draft. I took the train from Boston to the draft because I had I had a sinus infection, so like the air pressure like made me sick. So I

took the took the train to the draft. And when I didn't, I didn't know where I was going, Like I figured it made Boston or Phoenix, and uh, you know when I finally heard my name called, I was it was like it was it was about far the best day of my life because it's like that's what I've been working for for sixteen years. But it was a part of me that didn't really want to go to Boston because they just was the number one team in the East. They had Isaiah Thomas out Orford Smart, JB.

Jay Crowder. I was like, I mean, I'm not gonna play like I'm trying to. I'm trying to get buckets. I mean, everything worked out. It was the best decisions. So it worked out. You thought you thought long and hard, about being that second LFE skin killer out there in Scott's Dale. Huh that have been crazy him and could you imagine him and book? Oh wait, that would have been nasty. So you're rookie Phoenix. Yeah, you're rookie again. A man, shout out my man, Earl Watson. Man, he

got he got done dirty out there. But it's it's it's refreshing here and all the players speak about it because players really fucked with him, just the owners of clown and you know management is sucked up. But I'm glad to hear that the Earl had convinced you that you wanted to be in Phoenix. That's what's up. Uh your rookie debut. You play against Lebron, come out and drop a double double. Tell me what that was like. Man, I ain't getting no sleep the night before the game. Uh,

because it was Kyrie. It was co first game coming back to Cleveland. You know, we got a new team, and you know I saw this hype. So I mean we I don't think I'm nervous, Like we're going through warm ups. We went on the court. The cast still ain't running the court. Yes, So I'm like, all right, I'm good. I'm laying the ball up, playing cool, and then I remember the Calves run on the floor and then Lebron was the last person in warm up, and when he ran on the court, he ran past me.

I said, damn, I just start getting nervous. I started shaking my first like my first, the first shot I ever took in the game. I set a screen for Cors slipped it caught through me a float pass, and I thought I was wild, hoping something like iring to get my first bucket, like I'm gonna calm down, and I tried to lay it up him. He can't. I don't know where Brin came came since to the fifth row. I didn't. I didn't score it to the second half. I didn't get my first bucket to the second half.

What what was that your welcome to the NBA moment? That was for sure my welcome to the NBA. My first shot Bron came out of nowhere. I was. I was so now, once you're here, you're Boston. You know, you had mixed feelings. But going into someone's place with so much tradition, so many championships, what it was it like being a part of that organization? Once you know, realize that's where you're going and that's where you're at. Yeah,

it was. It kind of reminded me of being a duke. Um, you know, just so much winning history and tradition and seeing all the banners they got up there and you know, all the media attention. Uh duke really you know, really prepared me to go to go to Boston and you know, everything happened for a reason and it worked out really well. So you know, I really enjoyed being in Boston so far. And um, you know, playing in the Garden is it's

like no other place. Um. The fans are amazing and just looking up there as a seventeen championships that we have and all the great players that come before me to put on their uniform is, um is crazy? What what?

What for my Celtics. Have you been able to speak to our build a relationship with because I know when we play for the Celtics, like talking to Paul, all the former players, all the great to be around sometimes, have you ever got a chance, even if it's Paul, have you ever got a built a relationship with a set a great Yeah, it would it would be Paul and uh, Paul and KG. But you know, Paul is, Paul is always. Paul Is around a lot more, especially you know, working with ESPN, So I talked to him.

I talked to him pretty often. Um. So you know, just you know, watching because I watched him growing up as well, you know somebody, and you know I kind of took a little bits and pieces from the game and his footwork. His footwork is unbelievable. Yeah, he's the truth,

the truth. So just being able to talk to him and you know, him giving me little insights and in words of encouragement, uh, you know, go a long way, because you know, oftentimes, you know, sometimes older players, you know, sometimes talk down on the new generation or stuff like that. And and it's a good feeling when you know somebody like Paul peers Is, you know, welcomes you and uh, you know tells you that you know, you could be the next you know self degrade or whatever like that.

You know, Um, you know, that's an incredible feeling. That's what's up. So going from being nervous in your first game, getting your first shot, throwing back to St. Louis by Lebron too too, doing your thing in the playoffs. You know what I mean, beat the Bucks in the first round in seven games, beat the Sixers in five games, and like I said, battled the funk out of the Calves and in seven games, and so close to hed

at that game. I was at the game. You saw the first thing my kids said when that came in the first thing My twins said, when you're gonna dunk on Brian again, you know what I mean? So that was that was a crazy moment. But tell us what that was like also considering Kyrie was out, you know, I mean, so it was all up to the young

guns to kind of do your thing. And you got stepped on that stage man, and and really one over, I said, the world with the way you played the confident, the way you played Duncan on motherfucker's bumping braun after you dunked him, Like talk to us about that whole

first year run. Yeah, that was that might have been like probably the most fun I ever had playing basketball because Gordon Gordon got hurt the first game and I got hurt with like probably it was like we played like twenty games in the regular season at the end without cost, so we we kind of was starting to

form our own identity. That we was gonna go into the playoffs, and it was weird, like we was a two seed, but like every nobody thought we was gonna beat the Bucks, like because I was I was team and JB was in his second year and we had Terry and Smart and move, we had like a bunch of like underdogs and things like that, and that really like that really like boosted our confidence because we had the home court advantage and you know, we were just like we we just felt like we had nothing to lose.

So we we beat the Bucks in seven. So then they was like, all right, you know, that was a fluke. They're not gonna beat They're not gonna beat Philly, Philly just I think Philly beat Miami like four one, you know before that. So they was rolling. So they was like, they're not gonna be Philly. So then we was up. We was up on Philly three zero, and then they came back and we beat them in five. So now we like and like you said, we kind of won the world over like just how we was playing, and

you know, I was leading the team in points. I was having like nineteen, but like JV was giving us seventeen, Terry was giving us seventeen and Horford and and my man Muke was hooping. So we was really playing just like free, like we had just nothing. Nobody had nothing to lose. We were just going out and playing every

night and we was having so much fun. We was locking up, you know, everybody was it was involved, and you know once we played the Calves, yeah, we had we could feel it like everybody was rooting for us, like everybody, you know, it was like kind of a feel good story, like people wanted us to see wanted to see us do well, and even you know, to take us to take them to Calves of Game seven and play against bron like my first year in the league,

and that's like, that's that's something I'll never forget. Like that that really has taught me a lot. And uh, you know it really you know, Bill's character and boosted you know, my confidence going into you know, you know. Now, it was good to see Matt because like I said, I was there, but to see two young guys in the young team without without Kyrie, it was refreshing to me.

And it was it was one of my favorite series to watch because I was happy to see some young guys compete and take that challenge and been thrown on the stage at a young age against Lebron. They didn't back down. I see someone see so many guys in the league that don't take the challenge, that back down. But it was good to see two young guys that I knew that was from that from that culture. They went.

Then they stepped up. They didn't win, but I think the world was just happy to see some some young talent come and compete and see the future getting ready to rise in the league. That was That was refreshing for me to see Bro. No question, that ship was beautiful to watch. Talk to us a little bit about that one particular play, you know the dunk, the bump. You know that ship was on Sports Center top ten what like. You know how I talked to how that dunk.

You know, I was talked about it and kind of change things even no lot to this day, people either tag me on Instagram or Twitter, like I see the dunk every day since it some how many people straight up now it's I gotta listen. I got a post of it upstairs in my in my hallway, like my mom got a post of it. My pops got one in his house. Uh, it was crazy because you know, I remember, I remember like it was yesterday. It was

in the fourth quarter. It was a low scoring game too, so like those teams was kind of struggling a little bit, and Brad caught the time out and he like, we're settling too much for jumpers, you know, let's let's try to get one. Let's try to get to the foul and attack the rim. So I remember Smart had the ball out comes set a pin down for me and he was like, Jay, Tim, you get it. You know, attack down here to make a play for yourself or

somebody else. So I remember I got it, and I turned the corner and it's like everything kind of slowed down for a second because I've seen Brian. I'm like, oh, it's like I gotta try to dunk it, because if like I didn't think I was on dunk on my mind, like, let me just try to dunk it. Hopefully I get the foul or something. So I'm like, oh, So like the first for like five seconds, everything slowed down and

as soon as I jumped. As soon as I jumped, it was like and then I'm coming down on the ground and I don't I don't know why But I bumped him and I yelled in his face and I remember looked at me. I loved it. He after I bumped him, he looked at me like, I'm like, oh, let me get back on defense. That wasn't look though, that was to look like, oh oh, this motherfucker is for real. That was a look around, how how dare you?

But there's a look a little bit of respecting that look too, like this little motherfucker came to hoot Man for sure. And then you know, after that season, he gave me one of the you know, the best compliments you can get is you know you're built for stardom. He saw the star in you obviously throughout the season, especially in that in that playoff series, And what did that mean to you to kind of be stamped by

arguably one of the greatest players of all time. He gave me the problem M Yeah, like like you said, um, you know, when I when I stepped on the floor, like I don't, I don't. I never back down from anybody. I tell myself like when I step on the floor like I'm the best player out here, Like That's how

I approach it. But like I still I understand like Lebron is what he means the basketball and what he means the players like myself, and you know, just basketball in general, like what he's done so much for the game. So to get that, you know, that nod from him, it's a big deal. Um, you know, you you you appreciate that, you know, just getting recognized. But you said one of the one of the greatest. How important was the team us say experience to you? That was super important.

I'm glad I was able to be a part of it. Um. I got hurt in our second game, so I didn't I didn't get to play. Uh you know the rest of the turning we end up we end up losing. But really just learning from from Pop Man was like that was so beneficial to myself and and I think the way I played this this this season honestly, you know, he really challenged He challenged me every day in film and in practice. And I remember he sat me down one day we was in front of the uh was

in the elevator and we got off the elevator. He sat me down there like one of the stools in the hallway. He was like, He's like, can I talk to you? Like, yeah, Pop and he's like, I want to I want to tell you something, and I hope you don't get offended. And I don't know what you're about to say, because Pop crazy like, here's say whatever you want and you say whatever. Hey, Jack knows. Yeah, he like, I hope I don't offend you. But he's like, you could be. You could be like Kawhi Leonard And

I said why would I be? I said, why would I be offended? Pop? He's like, oh, I'm just making sure. He was like a lot of guys think they are two way players, but it's only a few guys that are actually good enough and able to do it. And I feel like you have the capability of being a two way, a real two way player in this league. And ever since then, he challenged me every day on defense and practice, and that kind of carried into this season.

That's dope. Well, I just thought overall, like you said, the experience, the chance for you, Kimba, Jalen and Marcus just to all be around that kind of coaching staff and other stars was gonna pay dividends. Because you know, Kimba's still young, but you know, especially that your your young core just get just rubbing off, you know, rubbing you know, being around great coaches, being having that experience, and then the confidence is gonna carry over into the

next season. And I think you touched on that. Um in February, you average thirty per game, becoming only the fifth self behind some classic names have the check Bird, Pierced Isaiah Thomas, you being five. What goes through your head when you hear those names and knowing you have a place in Celtics history. Uh, that was I mean that it kind of like shocked me. You know when you when you put those those names up there, those

are you know, some of the greatest. And even I t when he was here for those two years, he was he was an animal. Um. But you know I was just I was just in a groove. I remember it kind of like the switch kind of click for me when once I felt when I once I found

out I made the All Star Game. Um, it was like it was like some pressure was was relieved because coming into the season, that was like that was my main focus was making an All Star Game because I didn't make it my second year, and you know a lot of people were you know, doubt me in and count me out and I felt like this was kind of like my my my last chance to like, you know, kind of show people like I'm still you know, I'm

still able and capable to do what I do. So making making an off star game was such a big deal for me, and I was I was like pressing, and it was like messing with me mentally this season. You know, if I had a bad game, I'd be sick, like, damn, I'm not gonna make it. But then I have a good game. All right, I think I'm gonna make it. But once I found out I made it, it was just like all right, like let's hoop now. And then you know, I think from that point I was averaging

like thirty thirty something like that. Your mind's got to be free. It's a beautiful thing. Talk to us a little bit about, like you said, so a successful obviously rookie season to run. You guys had the playoff front. You have take a step back that second year there's the here, there's chemistry issues, and here Kyrie is the problem. Me here there's no ball moving you hear a whole a bunch of things. What was the difference between that second year team in the third year team now where

you're flourishing as All Star. The chemistry seemed to be back on track. Um, what changed? You know, outside of changing you know Kyrie, Kyrie and Kimba, who are similar players to us sense you know from the outside looking in. But what has been the big difference and why are you guys back to the chemistry we saw as fans your your rookie year. Uh. I think there was a lot of things that I think played a part of that. My my second year, Like you said, we had that group,

that young group. You know, we we we almost get like a couple of stops away from getting to the championship. So it's like we we had a big summer, you know, guys are we're filling ourselves. We're excited. We were ready to take that next jump. I think, you know, I'm I'm ready to be an All Star in my second year. But now we got Gordon and Cole coming back, and like we we everybody, but we all had good guys, Like everybody got along, you know, we we like being

around each other. But I think it was just like everybody had kind of like personal goals, which is not wrong. Um, you know, we we all were a fault to some degree. You know, I didn't play great, JB. You know, nobody played as good as they wanted, and then we weren't winning, So that had it like that affected us as well. I remember the first twenty games, we was ten and ten, and everybody thought we was gonna have a best record in the in the league, and like we we just

weren't consistent. We have like a stretch where we like we're winning five or six in a row, but then we'll go one and one in six and I think we just it just we just couldn't figure it out. And you know, coming in this third year, we lost like six or seven guys, and basically the message coming into this season was like last year, like let's just forget about it. Like last year happened. Um, we can learn a lot from it individually and as a team,

but like, let's just forget about it. We can't change what happened, so let's just focus on this year and try not to make the same mistakes we did last season. And I think we've been doing a pretty good job of that, uh so far. So I mean I really felt you guys were coming on strong, especially chemistry Rise Jack and I both know being able to be on championship teams. Chemistry is it is and you really fear see and feel like you guys are having fun out there.

You and JB. You're going back and forth doing your thing. Kai does this? Excuse me, Kimba was doing this thing. Gordon's getting his footing back under him. You guys are playing really well. You know you were to me, you guys are not necess the surprise team of the East because we know how good and talented you guys were, but just coming off that second season, we're just like, well, what team are we gonna get? You know what I mean?

So you guys are proving in that second half of the season man, that you guys are definitely a team to be reckoned with. And I was looking forward to this playoff from what are your thoughts and how optimistic are you about us? Or excuse me, you guys returning to the court this season. To be honest, now, I don't I don't know. It's like one week you hear one thing and then the next week you hear something else. So I honestly, I don't know. I feel like, you know,

I feel like it may be tough to come back. Um, you know, so many obstacles and variables that you got to put in place and work things out. And you know, and I hear like plans, uh plan without fans, Like I don't, I don't. I know a lot of people probably don't know. I don't want to do that because I just think that's you lose a lot of the passion for the game. And like that's kind of who we played for. We played for the fans. We play

the game energy energy, We feed off of that. So I mean, I mean, they got people that's gonna try to figure it out one way or another. But to be honest, man, at this point, I don't know what's gonna happen. You and Kyrie got a good got a good Duke connection, you know, y'all big y'all been brothers. What was it like playing with him in Boston and now now with him being in Brooklyn. Uh yeah, that's that's like my big brother. Um obviously the Duke connection.

And I joked with him all the time he only played nine games at Duke, So I like, bro, you really didn't what you play, You only what you only play you only played, y'all. Both was in and out that motherfucker though, But yeah, I'm playing with uh. You know, we have to say at the same time, we have

the same agent. And then you know, playing two years with him, Um, you know it, like especially my first year, Like I don't people, I don't care, like people might think he crazy, but Kai got he got game, like he wanted the He one of the most skilled basketball players.

Like however, like me me getting to see it, especially my first year, it's it's a difference being on the court with him and seeing it and every day every game and then practice, like just some of the things he did with the ball, it was just like mind boggling to me. And the way he was able to finish like he he like he's special. Uh, and he's

one of the he one of the best players. I've got this was able to see and in person and play with and you know, his descision to go to Brooklyn obviously, I mean a lot of people was mad and things like that. But you know, us as basketball players, we understand like once you get to a certain level and a certain point in your career, like you've earned the right to make the decision on what makes you happy and what you want to do so I was,

I mean I was. I was happy for him. You know that's he wanted to go back home and be close to his family and played, you know, something he dreamed about. I think everybody should have the opportunity because you know, you know, you can get traded in a blink of eye, and and you know, nobody getting mad at the organization, but you know everybody pointed the finger

when somebody wants to go do what makes them happen. Facts. Absolutely, it's the it's the business when you're traded, cut waved, But you're a bad guy when you take your happiness and freedom into your own hands as a cold game. Your first All Star appearance, you you you spoke on how nerve wracking it was being up to that, you know, leading up to that time you're named an All Star.

Talk to us about what that was like, and you know what kind of the ex heale you took, like ship, I'm here now, I was supposed to be here possibly last year, but I'm here now. Tell us what that was like. Man also was Uh, it's a great experience. I was there my first two years with the rookie and sophomore game. But it's a different vibe. It's a different like I had a different walk about myself this time. I was like I'm an All Star now, like, yeah, we've seen it, straight up, straight up. I had a

different walk. And I remember the best part about it was Sunday during when we got to the game and I walked in the locker room and like I got to see my jersey and that it was just like like, man, like this is what you dreamed about, Like you, I finally made it. And I looked at my left lebron locker next to me and Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook and James Harden and Dame Lillard and and Anthony Davis, you know, all guys that like when I was in

middle school and high school watching these guys playing. Now we're on the same team. I think that's the coolest part about being an All Star, Like getting the opportunity to maybe whether it's three or five minutes you in the game and it's not really meaningful, but just being able to be on the court with like, all right, I'm on the court with Kauai and Chris Paul, you know, just being able to play with different guys that you know you may not never get to play with uh

it was was it was incredible. Espec see the way that the the format change this year. You know, the last couple of minutes of the game was it was crazy and I loved. I love the way they did that, and uh it was it was in trouble for the players and indroable for the fans and everybody watching. So you know, I think the nybody did a great job with that. Okay, from the All Star Game to a regular season or just period. What's the toughest player you

like to battle with? The toughest player? Uh uh, it's it's either like Kauai, Mellow, Paul George. I would say Katie was hurt this year. So so it'll be between those three because those are all three guys like I like, we'll watch film on the high school and you know, study their moves and not get to play against me. You know, Mellow is a little bit older, but you know with Paul George and Kauai being on the same team, and especially like Kauai Kauai, he like he he that Dealey.

Yeah it's not flashy, but he gets the job done. So I always like watching him and you know how hard he compete on both ends. Um, you know, I like watching the Clippers play when I'm not playing. What was it like to be able to drop Paul George on that move and then still hit the shot. It's one of the better defenders in the game. You hit him with the old that old move got him and then we're still able to knock down the shot. Yeah, no,

it was. It was crazy. PG is somebody that you know, obviously I looked up to and kind of built a relationship with. You know, since I was in college. I talked to from time to time, and you know, I just remember getting him off that switch, and I mean we got tangled up a little bit, so you know, he probably stepped on my foot or something. But you know, just as he failed, and then it was like I

gathered myself. I'm like, man, you gotta hit this then, but I couldn't celebrate because we it was tied, so I just play. It was a hell of a game, feel like now, it was a good game. Yeah, yeah, a hell of a game. Talk to me a little bit about because I see the joy and the pride you're taken in in fatherhood and becoming a star simultaneously, you know, you bring your son around a lot. Talk to us about what that balance is like and how

rewarding being a father is to you. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's it's don't like anything I thought it was gonna be. You know, I knew I was gonna have I found out I was gonna have a kid like the end of the last month or two of college. Um, so it was I was. I was nineteen at the time. So I moved to Boston, moved my my family out here, and I got drafted. So it's like everything just kind of like my words got turned upside down like and

all in the span of six months. And I remember I was so nervous because it was like I was so I was so like worried and concentrated, like I'm gonna be like I'm gonna be one of the best. I'm gonna be a star, like I'm not gonna let nothing get in that way. But now it's now it's like I gotta I got a son, and I want

to be the best father I can be. So it's like, all right, I look at it as a challenge like I'm I'm gonna do both, Like I'm gonna be one of the best in the league, and I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna be there with him every step of the way. And it's it's been a joy. I mean, I got help. You know, his mom is up here, and my mom helps me out a lot, obviously with traveling. But you know, any chance I get, I'm always with him. And you know, I take more pride and being a

father than I do playing being a basketball player. So there's nothing like it that the joy is is incredible. So we salute you, man. We we both all got kids and know that feeling. Man, but we can see it in your face, in your eyes when you bring him around and and and really kind of show him out. And I think that's dope. Man. Music today, it's just going to music. What's you listen to nowadays? And there

in the artists a song gonna repeat right now. I got like my I got my favorite, like the people who are my favorite. But I listen to everybody, so it's like whatever is new, like the baby got some new little baby, um a boogie. You know, I always listened to you know, what's what's latest, So I'm always a fan of that. But I still got the guys, that's like my favorite. You know who who is? Just you know that? List on? Stay there? Who's your goal to?

Who's your favorites? Who's your top five? You're starting five in the rap game, like my start my my five? All right? Hold Hold is the HOVI is the he the greatest, Hove is he is? He's a goat. I got drinking number two. I think Drake my favorite, but Hold, I thought I got Hold is the great So I got hold Drake. I got little Wayne Wayne Them three is goats. Wayne is Wayne is number three? Mm hmmm, uh way his money? Yeah Wayne, he he did. He

would go to them three Biggie biggie number four. Uh, I mean I thought, I thought Nelly and that nearly number five. He got to Man, you got mad at that number five? Country Grandma. Yeah, he puts Come on, man, he put y'all on the map for real. Get the stomping in the air force once many rappers Diamond, not many. He definitely want of him. If any rapper could name drop you on the song, what rapper would you want

that to be? Just one? Mm hmmm who? Because you know, because you know whatever you say now not since as you say it on here. It's gonna happen. I know you can if you want to, you can give us two if you want it. You can't just give it to I'm I'm not gonna say hold. I'm not gonna say hold because he don't really like make music like that. No more so I'm not gonna say hold mm hmmm. Not. I ain't gonna say Drake neither out for for real.

If if Little Wayne or Yo Gotti, if Little Wayne and Yo gotta said my name in the song because my favorites too, so as much as much as Little Wayne watched basketball, trust me, it's coming. I need one of the next the next mixtapes, Dedication seven or something. I need. I need to hear my name. Yeah straight uh. You you joked that you got a top five hairline in the game back in my day, Like I sound the oldest fun I was. You was leading boy, My ship was Chris Bonny. It was your top three hair

lines in the game right now. No, yeah, Matt, you was fresh. Yeah we got a hole down, but you got like a no bullshit. You gotta like that picture perfect hairline though, like your ship is perfect in the front and then the drop down in the hooks like, I definitely admired your ship. You know, I'll be looking at the hairlines like a motherfucker. You gotta got nice crispy one. Sure, I got my head all right now, she looks crazy right now, I got I gotta mother beano.

I feel you top top three hairlines myself. Who else be fresh? PG? I get it, the PG got you gotta seek that sick hairline, the third one, the third one. It could be. I ain't gonna lie. Uh. What's my man name, fred Fred van Fleet? He keep he keep a fresh cut. I peep that. Yeah, I think it's no, it's no disrespect to people your complexion, Jack, because sometimes

we couldn't see the hair on your head. But I think when your light skinned with that, I was live that when you can see it, you can see hey. But that was the one thing, one thing that used to funck me up, Jack. And sometimes we couldn't see your hair, Like no, your tattoos. I'm like, damn, I know the motherfucker's testoo, suff you can't even see them. You got some tattoos. The wady could even see them. Business all right, man, we're going, we're coming coming down

the home stretch. We're gonna go into quick hitters. Go ahead and start him off. Jack All right, quick kids. Okay, now listen before I ask you this question. Your answer. If you know or have are connected to the answer of this question, you have to plug us and make sure what happens. Who would you like to see as a guest on our show? As a guest on our show, guests on your show, you don't have to be a

basketball player. No, anybody, No, not at all, anybody I've seen my favorite My favorite show so far was KG. KG was my favorite one so far. But if I could pick somebody, probably that's a tough one. I know, right, that's a tough one. Meek Meal, maybe Nick Melill be nice. Yeah, we need to have meek on Hill to talk to me about two great call Ya had Denzil on here? No ship we wish? Yeah, that's probably not that easy, but Denzil that would be dope as hell. Most of

most most underrated player in the league. He said he didn't know neither one of them. He can't hook him up with either, one of most underrated player in the league. In your opinion, I might be biased, but I think I think Brad Bill might be one of the most underrated players. Like he averaged thirty one this season and he didn't make the Austar game. Yeah, Like I feel like if he's probably if he was in a bigger market,

you know that he would be on ESPN more. But I don't know what it is like real basketball fans, you know, they know and they know like how good he is. But I think he needs more. He needs more attention because he's killing killer player with them with the most swag. What player has the most swag to you off the courter on the court total this period period? I ain't my man, my man trow Terry Terry rose Yer out there in Charlotte rose Yeah, yeah, hut. And

he shows you currently binge watching. I've been trying to watch that a little bit. I was. It starts off slow. It's just starts stick with it, stick with it. It starts slow. But that should get going crazy, bro crazy. That's what I'm a big I'm a big power guy. Power was my shop, great show favorite Quarantine, Snacks a race race, Crispy, treat them and them good old honey buns. The honey buns go wrong and put them bars in the micro You don't look, man, you don't take them.

You don't take them out the plastic. What you do is you open the top part and you leave it in the plasts, and you put the whole thing in the microwave. You're feeling me. You put the whole thing in the microwave by fifteen By fifteen seconds made, I'm telling you, fifteen seconds. It's over with, It's over Oh jack, Jack, you're talking to a fellow stone bro. You don't think I know how to heat up a motherfucking honey bun.

I'm just saying, man, I had to to red to reenact because it took me the when he said, honey, but I went there almost them is fired. Uh. Favorite retro jersey, the old school magic Joint with the strike with the black joints. The Black Ship was hard shocking Penny days. I hope Penny centers that one too. Um you have if you can get court side seats to any game and any time in any era, what game would it be? Oh? Uh, courtside to two thousand one?

When when when when a I played? When they played the Lake Lakers and step stepped over to loo then went in to stole that game. That was the only game the Lakers lost in the playoffs that year. That give me your top five in the game in the history of the game, in the history yep, Mike, Mike, Mike, Brian Kobe, Mike, Kobe Bryant, like they two and three, whatever way you want to put it. Yeah, yeah, it's tough because it's like I I didn't see Bill Russell player.

I didn't see what Chamberlain, I didn't see Larry Bird. No, go with want you to go with what you know. We feel the same way about something the older wy we we feel that because so go with what you know him? No, I respect him, I just didn't see him play. So Magic Johnson and number four and then the third for the fifth spot is between Sat Kareem and KD for real, he might be in the top

five already. Katie is a killer, and I think people take they take his talent for granted and may like not like something about him so they don't give them to do. Just as far as his game on the quarter, but this game on the court is second to none. Second, when he stepped on that when he when he lays him up, he he he laces him, he laces them. Hold you better have your shoes on tight. All right, this is a final segment of the show. It's Stephen

Jesse Jackson's begging segment. Jack take it away. Yes, I'll take it away. So therefore we just talked about how I was rudely and abruptly booted from the Jordan family. Shout out to my BOI. They still showing me just that's just stort me love because Mike. You know, Mike understands that I the first person to get his team, his organization to the playoffs. Nothing about me, though, Um you got I needed. I needed Jersey brod. Could I get some Green Player exclusives shoes from you? Bro? I

know you got. I know you got some green with I keep find the green was nowhere, the ones you play in, the ones I'm play in. Yeah, I can do that. You love. That's love. Appreciate easy, that's easy. That's easy love. And I'm gonna hit you up for some kids shoes. That's all I want. I don't want nothing for me, all right, man. That's around bro. Thanks Bro, Jason sator Man, we appreciate you. Thank you for taking some time with us. Man. Best of luck if the

season comes back. Uh, stay healthy, Uh you know, keep being a great dad and keep doing your thing. Man. We appreciate your time today. Pick up, pick out right when you live out, bro, you say, I got keep holding it down for the light skins with the good hairline. See my love. That's a wrap, Jack the show, good day to day stack, good job, my boy. That's a wrap. You can catch all the smokers Showtime, basketball, YouTube or all platforms, streaming, podcasts, all of them. There's something about

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