Jaime Foxx | Ep 43 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

virtual handshake? Oh tell you something that I never told no about it? I want to smoke. Welcome back to another quarantine addition of all the smoke, I'm excited about this one. This is this is this is the A list edition. Like I mean, I I think we all did ourselves here. Jack Ship, Yeah, man, I can't believe it. Yeah, I mean, go ahead and introduce me. Let's get it your started. You can't even spit that ship out. I know you can't get it out. I ain't gotta lick

my lips and nothing. I'm ready to go and they get ready to go. All right, man, Welcome or the greatest hottest actors of our generation. Uhrind sitting ground Yeah, groundbreaking musician, jack of all trades, if you don't mind me using that term. Welcome Jamie Fox. Thanks for the chiming on. Man, come on, you ain't gonna do all that, man, hold on, we gotta the rest of the world gotta know, man, you man, you left out super party thrower. Man, what I still got? Chicks I talked to that I met

at your party? Was that ten years ago? How long ago? Throw? Ten years ago, don't matter? About two years ago, you know? And you came in all the smooth and light skilled, smooth. I've remember the legendary session we had in your studio. Yeah, man, singing, rapping, smoking stupids in there. Yeah man, you but you know

that's that's really kind of hard. How I got into the business like throwing throwing parties, man, Like back in the day, like I had just got on this little show called and Living Color back in the day, dog, and I wasn't, I wasn't nobody. But like I talked to this girl, really pretty, and I said, how do I get people to come to my party? She said, Jamie, throw parties. Invite the girls, but don't put no pressure

on that's what you mean. She don't put no pressure on and make sure they can have a good time. You know what I'm saying, relaxed, I said, cool, So I throw this little it was a Halloween party, dog, and I went all out. I spent like eight hundred dollars I had, I had catered, you know back then that's early not I went all out and went all out dog. And then like it was a Halloween party, like Tim thirty was, nobody had to create. I said, damn,

I don't blew it. I don't spend all this morning, got barbecue whatever funk And then like them thirty, they started rolling in and then that's yo, Yo came back in the day all of you know, all the casts was coming. But I was wondering who big was gonna show up to stamp the party. And I'm looking outside and this motherfucking black what is it? N nexs the what's that the black Excess? What's that car? Uh? The Nissa? What was the Nissan Excess? And the ex Yeah, that

black whatever the funk? That was black ass car? Think the ship was rich looking. And Wesley Snipes got out the room and came to my this is the you know the thing. It came up here here party is going on. So that started like this tradition man of like just getting everybody in the in the in the same place. Man, and I would invite. I would invite musical people because I wanted to get into music too.

I would invite music people to the crib. So when you saw snooping all them, that was just like part of what I had been doing since ship man. I remember. I remember the biggest one was in two thousand and we had h That's when Puff was hot. Puff was like, you know on this ship. You know what I'm saying. This nigga would come to l A and shut all the clubs down and we couldn't even get in our own club that type ship. And so I threw this.

It was a house party. And Puffy threw a party for like a million dollars in Philly, and I was I used to follow him with a camera said he said, you play boy, it's part of a million dollars. Like, what the funk a million? That was for a party? I said, Puck, I threw a party in l A for four hundred dollars. That a arrival. That all right with his part, and he got mad he's they're gonna play. That's what I'm just saying, man, you know. So he comes to l A. He gets here, Uh, he calls

me like a Saturday morning. He said, Yo, play one, make that ship happen. So I called up you know me and Dave Brown called us from Girls or whatever like that, and I have a little small house like over there in a in a band all of them and show about twelve new When I called him, I said, bro, you better get here. His fever pitch. And when he got there, he walks in, he said, that's the girl from that show. And that's the girl from that movie.

And that's like said, yeah, yeah, we all know each other. But look on the table. I got Kentucky fried chicken. I got Coca cola in a in a in a in a picture. I said, were two hundred and eight dollars. And it's a fever pitch. And at that at that point, it was everybody. Missy had a room, Missy Elliot had a room. Missy was hot. But then it was a dude standing on the standing on the wall. DI did nobody know who who he was? Guess who it was? He had attracted Jack, don't guess it was. It was

Jay z. Well, nobody knew who he was. And I walked up to him and said, nice party. It's crazy like all time and said he it's crazy. So he was in for real? Was there? So that tradition? We just keep it rolling. You put that on. I mean, hands down, this motherfucker. It's crazy. It's craziest. Nice party, like the short term, it's crazy crazy. Talking about Jackie talking about is this part he wants you to first,

I'm laughing. I'm laughing. I'm laughing because every time I see you do impersonation, Bro, I just think of rotting the earl of bones. Bro's gonna be all right, he said, he blazed to get burned on. I understanding you can get burned. Hey, Steve Stephen, I owe you something, though, Man, what's that I've been stealing from you? Bro? What's that I've been stealing? You don't? You don't even know? Look, you know I'm steal I'm steal in YOUM dog trying to hoot, uh huh. And you know I would have

made it to the league. Just my calf must gotta hand on calf. But check this. Every time we're battling and I got the ball and it's it's it's last shot. You know what I say, pressure, I make a lot of pressure. I make a lot of what a shirt saying, don't make a move to Bro. I told Matt you tell a story, man. I told Matt you told me at the game, at the little games, like Jack, I was walking like, what's up, Jam. I was just happy to see him. You know what I'm saying. You put

me your sides like Bro, the game was going on. Man. He walked behind the bench and pulled me to the side while he was coaching the game. He's like, look, Bro, I don't know what you got going on, but I'll make a lot of pressure. We need you need to make T shirts what a T shirt said right now? Right now? But but befriend But tell a story though, because I'll be telling people. It was. It was just tell a story about there was a scheme, what you

would have done in that situation. Yeah, it was a reporter. It was a reporter and uh it was I was I made a lot of big shots with the Spurs and uh. And it was asked me like, well, you know, you fis your first time in these moments, you know, what I'm saying, And you've been dealing well with pressure. I said, well, you know what I'm from from part

of texts we make love of pressure. Oh my almost almost to my shoe with nobody said that, and all the interviews that I've seen, that's the coolest ship in the world. The motherfucker say, I make loved of Look at I'm gonna make some shirts and seeing you on just so we can have just me. We're gonna make the shirts. We're gonna make the salk I made the pressure. Yeah, you don't even want to make love? Do you want to make their production? Baby hare for time? Yeah? My

motherfucking face her. We hadn't even started yet. God man, man, we appreciate you. Let's get to it though. Man, only the second male in history to receive two Oscar nominations for two different movies, for African American to do it. The only other person do it was al Pacino. We know it was a grind, but in that moment, being that part of history, what did that mean to you? In order to get to that history, we had to

go back or what I what I went through. You know, It's sort of like I referenced everything like sports, you know, being a rookie on a Living Color or with the winds. You know, I was like the eighth funniest person. Imagine walking into you the eight funniest person. It was. It was Keenan, it was it was Damon, it was the fucking Tommy Davison. And then motherfucker's was in incredible. So I had to learn how to really compete. And Keenan told me something man that I'll never forget. Keenan was

tough on us, and you'll remember. I don't know if you'll remember this er because it was like, you know, back Back Colors, one of my favorite shows. Listen, when we was on that show, bro think about it. It was only twenty two minutes of airtime, so it was

just like getting game time. So in order for you to get game time, and you had to beat Jim Carrett, beat that, Damon wins and and Keenan said, listen, man, as a black comedian, if you ain't great, you ain't ship, he said, so I'm gonna hold you all the greatness. So I just I just maintained that man, and and like like from doing the stand up comedy, trying to be great at that from from from watching Eddie Murphy on stage, Like I snuck in and watched Eddie Murphy

on stage. When I was nineteen, I watched Adam Sandler do his first gig, Chris Rock all that. So I just kept saying, if I could just beat the next montheruck in the room, I will always have a way to make my way through this business. And then finally, look, man, uh, Ray Charles came along. Uh that movie came on and it was like I had been preparing myself, not knowing

that this movie was gonna come along. But my but but when I got with the director, the director was like, you know, when we first started working on Ray, first of all, I had to be a hundred and fifty seven times. Yeah, so I was so right now, you know, I'm walking around now because I'm getting ready to jump up to this Tyson thing. I'm all around there like two oh five. But I had to drop to one fifty seven. And then he was like, Okay, I got

a problem. I said, I gotta be able to hold the camera on you, but I need somebody to play the piano for you. I said, no, man, my grandmother, you know, taught me how to play piano when I was five years old. So so I'm equipped, I'm ready to go get it. And now, mind you, nobody was really thinking about the movie Ray Charles. We wasn't thinking

about that. It was an independent film. And then finally I meet Ray Charles and I had to I had to like really win him over, and I said, Mr Charles, I just want to do the best that I can to you know, to to to tell your story. And he's like, hey, you know what can you pay the blues? I said, uh, I said, what if you could play the blues? Fan, you can do anything. So we sat down. So we sat down on the piano, right, and we started playing the piano. So we're playing the blues and

everything like that, and then I hit up. He moved into thelonious Month, which is right, real intricate, jash it and then I hit the wrong note and he got, hey, you know what the fun did you do that? I was like, oh, I was just trying to keep up and said, you know what, the right notes man? You know that's and he said, that's what life is, taking your time to hit the right notes. So I finally played the piece right. He got up, slapped his leg,

the kids got it and he walked out. So that preparation when we got into the movie was all I had. One of the problems was that I met Ray Charles while he was older. I needed the young Ray Charles, so I reached out to Quincy Jones. I go over to the Quincy house and said, hey, man, Shu, come on in here. Man, what are you trying to do? Man, I said, I'm trying to do all the Ray Charles

said ship Man. It was the son of a bet from you know, I have all the kids to what he was doing, and he was a son of a bet for them. So I said, but I need to know the young Raychels. So he gave me a cassette tape. I could imagine that conversation alone, man, just sitting there talking to Quincy talking about, you know, what he did with Michael Jackson and Ussher and all that ship was just amazing. And he gave me that cassette tape. He said,

maybe there's something on this tape. And on that tape people would probably have to google this, but it was a lady named Dinah Shore on there and she says, Hi, this is down the shore from the Donna Shore Show were two very wonderful musicians, and Mr Kenney Rogers and Mr Ray Charleston and in the back you hear, um, even when I'm so happy to be here, you know, Donn, I didn't even give me my music that you know. And then and then she asked him about the drugs.

She said, we'll talk about the drugs, right, He's like, and he stopped, and so he started to like, you know, stumble and the fumble his words. So I took that as the DNA that every time he was met with something that was challenging, he was he was stuttering the movie. And so then we went on. We did the movie man, and after the movie came out, you've just seen every they flopped to it. It was like, you know, when I'm doing these characters, man, sometimes the characters have to

like embody you. So I embody Ray and then it just caught fire and the next thing you know, um, we was on our way. You feel like that was your crowning moment, right like that was your welcome to kay I made it. Do you feel like an exhale with that? Well, I mean yeah, because the thing about it was is that it was nominated for Oscar, but it was nominated for something that was that was dope.

You know how sometimes you get nominated or people get nominated in the character be a little off, like something that that ain't really like cool. This was something that everybody could rally around music. The Ray was a g he was he was dropping jams. He was saying things like what I'm making do what they do it? I mean, it was like all these things that was coming out. So it was you know, it was a moment of

time that we all enjoyed. And it was black, you know, it was for us it was like a and but at the same time it was it was universal. And Dave Brown sitting here right here, showed your place that yo yo, yeah, okay whatever brand that's David. But the world, the world No Brian, now shout out Brian, Ye can't

go life. But you know what, we kept it man during that time, man, we kept it show us like we was partying when people man uh like Like, as a matter of fact, after the end of the um, when we got that, when we got the Oscar, right, we didn't go to the Governor's ball. We Dave threw a party for us and we just we just we we you know, we went over this way with the black folks winning the party. Motherfucker's grabbed the grabbed the oscar in my hand was taking pictures with that ship

and smoking. I lost the motherfucker. I lost the motherfucker. I saw the oscar. It was so much weed and the motherfucking party was hide and they lost his lost his mother baits and ship. He was damn and I know this to do this ship. Yeah. Well, let's take it back to Man, to really where it all started. Born Eric Marlin Bishop, a Texas boy, government Texas boy, Texas boy. Yeah, Man, Texas man, it's Steve. You know what's that? You know it's about. Back back in the

they had that California creac. They talked to him a little bit. I read on how you change the reason why you changed your your name? Uh, tell our fans what the reason behind changing from you know, your government name to Jamie. Yeah. What happened was that l a. It was like open mic night, so like I went on as Eric Bishop at at the comedy store. And that's back in the day. They were like on Monday nights. Bro. It was was crazy. You see, and you see different

people out. You see like the young Tupac out, you see everybody out. Everybody would come out on money. I was, that's that's the trip. You know what I'm saying. We didn't know. We was hanging with legend. You see young Tupac out. I remember Tupac was hanging and he was like, damn n pop whatever. And I finally I get on stage. Right when I get on stage, like I see like you know, I'm straight from Texas, Steve. I didn't know. I didn't know l A. But everybody was dressed in blue.

I was like, you your parts probably still starts down. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But everybody was dressed in blue Steen but it was chrips. It was like, but I didn't know what it was, you know. And they said, nig, that's that's a crips. That's what the fun. So what then they say they you know, they come, they come to this motherfucker you know all the time. So what I did was I was watching the room and I went up and I did all of my person nations. But I did them like if there was a crip,

Like what if? What if? What if? What if? Mike Tyson. What if Mike Tyson was a crips? I thought, you know, what's up? My then wait bout the champion's going crazy and ship right? And so after I get like this standing ovation, I come back the next week and they wouldn't let me on the stage because the comedians were running the list. So like for like a few weeks, I couldn't get back on. I was like, damn, what

the fuck? So I go to this one Santa Monica Improv and I noticed that every time they had a open mic night, you know, ganga, it'll be a gang of dudes there, right, and only like five girls, but the five girls will always get on stage. So what I did on the list I wrote down all these unisex names like Stacy Green, Tracy Brown, Jamie Fox. And the dude picked Jamie Fox. As I was at this other place, he said, Jamie Fox, she here. I said, Yo, that's me. I was like, that's you. I said, yea,

that's me right here, Jamie. Ni. What's so I go on stage? You know, I hit him. I hit him with the colleges to Bill Cosby crep all that ship I didn't and I was the only I was the only nigger doing Uh, I was doing Ronald Reagan impersonation, only black dude. Well, it is a matter of fact that killing the ship. So now they're shooting eating at the improv at that at that time, and I have a great set get to stand in ovation, and so they're like, Yo, that's that new kid, Jamie Fox. And

so that's when it's stuck. And I had to get used to the name because they was like yelling out my name, said Jamie Jamie. But I wasn't paying on attention to him. So the next star, I was stuck up. But I had just got used to the name. You know what I'm saying. So that's how I changed the name up and the rest of that. Yeah, man talked a little bit present day. I mean we locked up right now. How are you in the family with what you got going on with the new norm? What's that

for you? Man? Listen, man, I consider consider myself blessed at this time because you know, my whole family is healthy. When the first jumped off, I said, I got a feeling. You know, I'm a Texas boy. I said, I got a feeling about this. I said, let's all get in the same place. Or all twelve of us got in the same place. We hunted down, we got what we needed, and uh, we've been we've been safe. Man. But you know,

your heart goes out to everybody else. And I try to tell people all the time that even when it comes to our political figures, right, I try to because you know, we'll be on the phone with these guys and you know, and I know everybody, you know, I gotta done gigs for Republicans out of the gigs for Democrats. I'm a Democrat myself, But all I've been saying on the phone is just think about the common man. Just think about the common man constantly, like put yourself in

like you know, everybody don't have. So in these next few weeks is really critical that we get the right information, especially when it comes to us when it comes to black folks, you know, because we're being misled and we're also being affected more than anybody. So you know, we're trying to just trying to stay calm, trying to keep that word out, trying to keep the positive energy, and trying to think about you know, the person that that's really out to struggle. How much you miss sports, and

I know you play a lot. I know sports have been a big part of your life. How much you missing sports right now? Bro Steven is killing if we if we had the lot If it's one thing that's killing the lockdown, it is not being able to watch the basketball ship was heating up. It was so crazy. I think about think about what King James had just did them three games where he he loved Milwaukee, uh Clippers, who else he loves? But I think it was after that me he was on some ship. He was on

some remarkable ship at uh at the year seventeen. So I was just watching that, like, man, I can't wait for this ship to playoffs. So you're missing that and now you're wondering are they gonna be able to I'm sure y'all know, are they gonna be able to come back? You know, that's what we don't know. But that but that was to me, that was like it was at the right time. I was like everybody on their games and it it was like the big boys was out to see Kauai. Uh to see uh uh Greek freak.

Greek freak. That's what I'm saying, baby face the camera. I did say that to him one time. I funked up. I thought the Buckers with friends, I said, he said, what do you say, Man, I know you from somewhere over then there. That's all I know. Yeah, man, missing, Yeah, no big part. I mean, like you said, it's the best time, right, I mean, the playoffs would be going

all right now. But like you said, there was so much parody in the league this season, and so many people wanted to see what that Laker Clipper playoff matchup was gonna be. Like, so I hope we can hopefully get there, Jackie all right over there, yeah, man, jack But I gotta feeling Hey, man, let's get into it. I gotta feeling on. He was about to he was

about to make some history. Man. Let me ask you all this a player that is playing someone like Lebron James And now I'm watching the Michael Jordan's uh A documentary. The question is how hard is it now playing sports in the world with social media where the narratives are so crazy? Because when I look at Michael, he was so heralded man and well deserved. Do you think, I mean, how would that would have played out in modern daytimes

and we'd have had social media. That's that's trying to be bigger, He'll be ten times even bigger, Like like did you say Jordan was chosen to be to go? Like he didn't ask to be to go, he was chosen to be to go. But if they would have had social media and all this technology when MJ was coming up, he'll be ten times bigger than what he is now. And here's and here's a question though, would it be controversy as well? Because when I look at it, like the guys that played now, they don't get that

love like they normally. It's always it's a lot, it's always a hate because I'm looking at Lebron like he's in the seventeenth year putting up these type of numbers. Anybody to do anything for seventeen years good and somebody get a plaque or get you know what I'm saying, that kind of ship. But he gets a lot of he get a lot of controversy. Why is that? Because I just think it's it's it's easier today to show it takes a strong man to show love, you know

what I mean? And I think you made a great point. There's so many there's distractions. Back then, there's no doubt and they were. You know, they're the rock Stars, biggest team in the world. But at the same time, there wasn't we had a we just we just did an interview with Bradley Beal talking about how the media tried to put him and John Wall against each other when they're actually good friends, like brothers, you know what I mean.

So to think if the media would, if social media would have been able to get in that locker room with the ship that was going on with Pipping, because obviously Mike felt a certain way about it, you know what I mean, and his reasons, you know what I mean. So what if social media got their hands on that and throw that ship around? Could that have possibly caused the friction in their relationship or friendship or their chemistry. So that's a great question. It would have sucked it up.

What do you think, because I mean, I don't see how these guys like man, you know, like I'm sensing to to like motherfucker coming to tell your ass you be ready to tell your computer, how would they have

dealt with all of that? Jack, but that ship, that that ship affected Braun and Kyrie, you know, to be infected that and just magic they would have stayed together, but me personally with Braun, all his chatter, don't it don't matter to him because before all his chatter, when Braun was a teenager, Braun was sitting there thinking in his own mind, I want to be better than Jordan. I want to be the best to play the game.

So everything that's been sad now it's been said to him in year seventeen, after all he's done, it doesn't it don't matter because his goal was set in his own mind, not based off what other people thinkright. Top five, top five? Who your point guards to? Top five all time? Who your point guard? This all the time? My point guard would be uh Lebron James, who magics my point guard? At your all? Right too, be Lebron too too. I'm going Jordan's I got jo I got Jordan in my two.

I got I got Kobe at my three. Kobe at my three, Kobe my three, go ahead. I got him dunking at my four, Tim Duncan at your four. I got Katie at my four. I'll about to say Katie at my four. Now here's the thing I'm gonna change because I had a different order. I had a different order the other day. But I'm changing My five is shock. Yeah, that's that's that's what I am. I'm going with these in five. That the five. Here's the thing. Now let's do errors because that's mine for the new era. What

about the old erabor? Oh, I'm going on. I'm going with more cheeks, more cheese. I'm gonna I'm going with magic. I'm taking Yeah, I'm still taking magic. Do you know what I'm still taking? No, no, no, no, I'll take my back. I'm going I Saila, Okay, I'm going magic. One. Who we're going to I got Jordan still Jordan too, for sure? Three we go, We're going. We're going back. Now we're going back. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. No, no, no,

you can you know what I'm saying. The the rules like rules like different rules like you know, like this this area still I let you, I let John have this. I'm going George Gervin. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Lebron at three three, I'm gonna go. But no a king. Oh you're gonna old school on? Um huh. Yeah, I'm going with Pip phel nice nice, actually, hold on, I'm I'm gonna take I'm gonna go Grant Hill at my three. Okay, I need I need Bird in it. I need Bird

in it or three or four? Four? Four? Oh, that's a nice one. Bird at the four is a nice stretch for I'm going at the four. I'm going. Uh boy, boy boy, that was tough that with Bird. That's what I meant. French lick. Yeah, I know right, I gotta go Bird too. Yeah, I'm going. I'm I'm going with Michalek four shoulders, mchaeale. Actually, excuse me, excuse me, back Barkley. I got Barkley at my four. There you go, There you go. There's a large Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Horible five. Who you got? I gotta da I ain't got no charts. I'm going with Will I'm I'm going with Elijah one. Since I picked shot earlier, The Dream Dream on the Dream, we touched on it. We touched on it a little bit ago. But what do you what are your thoughts on seeing this this last dance documentary, because I think we're spoiled today with everyone just getting to see everything about athletes, entertainers, whatever. It wasn't that way,

like we just tested it. Wasn't that way. So now we're getting to see almost a social media look at behind the scenes of how great that team was. But like you said, you you you're were slowly but surely find it out. There's some chinks in the armor. What are your thoughts about what you're saying so far? Well, you know what it is. I think that in today's world, had this documentary came out there was no social media, we will be able to watch it and take it in.

The problem is once it comes out social media, now look at look at Scottie Pippen, what he gotta deal with because they're talking about his money. So now you know, they make it memes and you know, so it's sort of hard to it's sort of hard for today's world to accept it. Now. Me being from back at that time, or not back at the time, but I mean being old enough to have seen those games, I appreciate it in a different way because I'm like, damn, I finally

get a chance to him. Michael talked about scott and you know what I'm saying, I thought that was the one, right because everybody was ship on Scotty. Be like Scottie wasn't ship He wasn't. Then Michael did it all on his own. I said, yo, man, y'all tripping Scottie Pippenham was one of the Mother's assassin's ever and I said,

didn't without him exactly. Here's the thing, you guys, know this, It's about being comfortable if somebody can make your job easy, whether bass, playing basketball, or whether I'm in the movie with great, great actors. When somebody can lift your shoulders with Michael, ain't gotta worry about guarding the main players, so you can save his lead because you know you need Michael for that train often anytime you've got somebody

alleviate that type of pressure from Pipping Harper. Yeah, Ron Harper, you're Tony Kukoach. These guys were Hall of famers, and so when you look at that now you're able to see because you know they're gonna give you tim parts, but you're able to see what allowed Michael Jordan's to beat Michael Jordan's and those guys were super important. So I'm glad that they're getting that shine taking nothing from Michael, because you know that's that's come on, you can't see

it's the goat. But they have to understand, and I'm glad that showing it now that it was a lot of it was a lot of help in that, man, because the days look a lot of times we see highlights and we see the greatest of the great but we don't see those times when we struggle. And I think that's just great about it, and you see the stroke.

I just wanted to say this. It felt good to see the quote from Mike saying you can't talk about Michael Jordan without Scotti, Pip, and I think to anybody what he said, It felt good to finally see that quote and see Mike say that, yeah, man, because I know for Scotty man, think about being Scotty just being like damn, you know, they don't know, but they don't. They got crazy and they got the greatest voice, and well, yeah, Si, you gotta got the wolf on his throat. Yeah, I

had to turn the base off. My TeV was st you know, but about Nyes on this throat. But back to your point, I think that the crazy part is it's just because we say Mike had helped doesn't lessen Mike's greatness, you know what I means at all. It's just it's just that the Mike. You know, look a lot of times, you know, like the tough things now is even talking about would you get But you know, Mike's Mike's I mean, I mean, Mike's of his his his just his whole brand is so huge it's hard

to have a conversation about just basketball. So I'm glad they got a chance to show just the basketball. You know, I think it's it's important cause a Skip Bayliss says something today that Scotty wasn't one of the greatest. He wasn't this, he wasn't that. And to me, Mike's legacy, Mike will still be great regardless. If he had Pip, he would be great, but like you said, he lessens, he lessened to burden. But then there's no titles without Pip.

And when we talk about legacy, we talk about winning championships. So so Mike is a great player, there's no knock on that. Obviously the greatest of all time. But when we talk about legacy, and man Mike said in his own words, like there's no Mike without Pip, you know what I mean. So I'm glad that people are finally getting to see how important Pip was because like I said, us, you know, we're at our forties now we know how motherfucking important, how good Pip was. Yeah, man, but but

you can't listen to skill. See, that's why I sunk with y'all man, skiving them, be trying to get headlines man, and just say that wold ship. That's why I'm shann to be on a skilled skilled skilled still skill kill skill hilp Ye all day. That's all he saying all day. I mean, I mean counting how many times he said philp Si that's all he saved. Bro. You can't listen to them. I don't listen to them. I listening to y'all man, because you know y'all play the y'all know

I appreciate that. Thank pivot them back to uh sports though I know sports probably started in your childhood. Can you talk to us about that? And man, you know what Texas man, it was everything man, like playing football was was was was out there like we didn't have no basketball team coming up, like and I just see then I see some football clubs. Man. You know football is my first sports. I played football. That was my ship. Yeah, so you under you understand that man in football in

Texas was everything. So like you know, like I remember like being a sophomore getting on the varsity team and I was big back then, you know, to be a sohom And I remember finally getting on the team, and I had worked all some of My father was a coach. He coaches another at another school in Lincoln High School. But I worked on someone and I didn't get kicked

Dallas Lincoln, baby, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't get picked up, and I was in terrible and then finally like somebody couldn't play, Like one of the quarterbacks didn't play. We ran a three quarterback thing. The coach came out there and uh, while I was in my uh like we was having two days just I got a start. So whenever I could believe, it was like the cons of the kids. And then they got on bossing. And then I walked in, dog, and it was it taught me about just being able to be

on another level, like to really stripe. And I walked in and they had carpet on the floor. Dog, you know, like I was like, damn, they got carpet on the floor. So I walked in. I'm looking at the carpet and all of a sudden, Dog, I just passed out, passed if I out. And the reason I passed out because one of the guys on the team, Keith, Keith Henderson, who was like a blue Chip, had hit me in the solar plex, knocked me out. He said, what the

funk up? So what then you doing? You got them shoes on the carpet and Chip, I was like what. And then all the seniors you know, was hazing me and Ship like that, and and it was just like a feeling that you couldn't imagine. Bro, They hazed me and Ship. But then when I got out there on the team and being fifteen, Bro, I ended up starting on the team, got a got a super super interception on a on a scrimmage. You had to go scrimmage McKinney,

McKinney lines, and uh, the one thing I knew. I knew all my plays and Ship, but they had marsh all the way down the field. They ran a little bootleg, got stepped in front of got the interception. Bro. My whole life change. And when people talk about I called to motherfucking interception Bro. And I went from being a sophomore to Eric Bischer. You know what I'm saying, and and it was like I still people asked me, how big,

What's the biggest moment of my life? And that was the biggest moment, getting that intercession and proven to these motherfucker's that I could do it. And then from then on, man, I became a quarterback my junior year. Then I went to pass for over a thousand yards uh my my senior year with one intersection. But you know it was crazy. He was Jamis Winston before Jameis Winston. Yeah, it was. It was kind of bad because I was a stat stuffer. I held us. I had a newspaper status in my

in my pocket. I'm looking. I mean, I need nine more yards I need to get. But yeah, remember sponsors everything. And then I went to U. I went to State. In the high jump, I was five seven or five eight, but I was jumped the six six. And then you played some hoop too, right, yeah, but that was later, man, Like our hoop team was terrible, you know, like you know, like how you go to basketball gyms and they got the banners the championships. I banner said, welcome, that's it,

that's it. But you know, WEAKEL had all the basketball bats. We had the basketball players. Yeah. We we played against Dallas linking a lot in the state championship, but put out the leak in the Dallas leak. We both got a lot of stapship championships. Yeah, man, And poured author with that track, Motherfucker's to fly. They don't know Jack right there, the voice is running from the cops. Got him on the track. Good. That's all good. The best way to get fast steal something. Yeah. Did you were

in the band back then too? Right? Man? That wasn't all kinds of bands. Me and my boy had a band called ex Caliber Dog. We was you know, I was trying to get on ex Calibu. So some like cassette tape days. Man, you know, uh but I remember we was like at a you know, the little talent shows the ship at the school. Man. I had my curl and ship. You said question because said this ship was dry? Was your curl wet or dry? My ship was dried off? Why I didn't? I didn't use the

stay sofer. I used some ship called Hollywood curl. So it was like it was like a cream. You put the mouth again there and then you know it stayed dry. So when girls see me. I used to tell him I was Dominican, was real. Man, Go man, go man, got stares rying, you know what I'm saying. They had to keep your ship dry. The ship too wet. It's like at the Hollywood Current. We had a curl that could have been on the side of one of their boxes. You had a real curl back then that like I

want number seven. Let me tell you, nigga, let me tell you something better than that. I had the picture of them niggas ready for the World, and I took it into the shop of the shop. I said, I need this, right girl, dog, I need Melvin Riley. I need Melvin Riley from Ready for the World. So they put the ship and my ship. I had a h It was low on the front, long in the back of ship like Nelvin Raley. It looked like a Z twenty eight because I had the lower and long. So nigga,

so ready for the world, come to Reunion Arena. I got tickets dog row six, and I swear to God, I swear to guy. When Melvin Riley came out, he looked at me and said, but I did like this, I said, and you see this, you know what I'm saying, curl swing and sitting looking good all the way. And then when I finally got it, and how well it was crazy is man? I finally get on and Melvin Riley came to my house. I said, motherfucker, I said, yeah,

that's how That's how great God is. Man. It's like I ended up getting on and then having him at the crib. I said, man, you don't remember me, Like, no, remember I had your curling rows six all that. But you know what the music was everything, man, music. I was always just trying to get into the music, you know, playing writing songs and ship and you know, singing line of Richie songs back in the day, you know, to the girls, hello, all them ships. You know. I was

just mimicking everything. And then now it's crazy, how now these people like in my cell phone you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like blessings, like you can't believe. So you went to college to study music performing arts? Um, when did you get into the stand up? Stand up comedy? Get When I got to San Diego doing music, I was in a college like International college. It was eighty one different countries in mine that were representing my school.

So I would do the music in San Diego, but I would drive up to l A do the common clubs. Or I would do Lahorea the comedy store down in Lahorea. And I was only eighteen, so I couldn't get in the club, so they would make me wait outside the club. You know what I'm saying. Then bring me in, let me do my stand up. So I was constantly like, you know, since I was clowning, since I was a kid, you know, I was constantly working on my uh you know, working on the craft. And I got there earlier, and

that was the big thing. Was like using the college as a sort of like a landing pad. But since l A was only you know, ship an hour and a half away, I would come up here and get it popping. And then my my uncle was assistant chief of police of a school districts and Mel Brown he said, he said, I know you uh, I know you're saying and stuff. I said, yeah, he said, you come on over here, and I don't want you to uh meet Harvey Food Quap. I sew who that? He said, that's

Marvin Gaye man. So I'm like I'm thinking, no, no, no, gout that Marvin Gay Man ship out here. Man, I'm drunk. So he gave me an address and then he's a joking motherfucker. So I'm thinking that's a fake address. But I get there. It's in Brentwood. And when I look on the um on the mailbox and says Dorothy Gay and Freeman and knocking knock on the door, and Harvey Football comes to George, this big black dude. He said, you wanted to sing? I said yeah. He said, come

on end. So when I went in the apartment, I looked to the left and it was these reel the reels and keyboards and ship and he said you see that? Said yeah, he said, that's Marvin Gaye's keyboards, the last thing he played before he died. And bro I sat down and started playing, and the dude was like, yo, man, you got it. And so I started like singing and ship like that, and he started having me come to the crib and and I was trying to get on.

At one point it got a little weird because you were having me singing Marvin gay songs all the time, having people come over. Uh, And I was like, yo, man, I know you're missing Marvin and stuff, but I want to I want to get my own thing, he said. I apologize, man, he said, you know, we had just lost him a too long ago. So cool. So I basically became like his uh his, like his assistant, like filing stuff for so like I just you know, just stay around the house and bro. This is a crazy story.

At one point, I was following these cassette tapes, right and I picked up one cassette tape to seeing what was on it, and I pressed play and it was it was the original of sexual and I'm like, damn, they gets four o'clock in the morning. I'm like, I could take this ship and get some money for this ship. And that I went walk, I went. I went and woke him up. I said, man, you gotta tell me about this. He said, yeah, man, I got a lot of them Ben Saince he was working on. I said,

tell me about that night, man. He said, this is what it was. Marvin was in the studio. It's like four o'clock in the morning, and I'm like, Marvin, man, let's go. Man, it's late, you know. And he had connected all these little, uh these tape machines together working on this track, and he said, yeah, I know it's late, he says, but where's Marylyn? He said, Man, Marylyn sleep right here on the couch. Man, let's go, and he goes, get up, man, Wake up Mary, Get up, man, he said.

Then I got it. Run the tape back, bump, get up, bro. That's that's how crazy is that? So that's I I called myself to Black Forest gun Bro, because I've just been like in every nook and cranny of his business. And then you know, Ship worked out talked us little bit. How you landed that in Living Color role? I had got on this one TV show called Rock, but for some reason they fired They fired me, and some ship

went down on going down. But I got fired and I shot the pilot and I told everybody in tarrell it I was gonna be on the pilot. And when the pilot came out, you know I wasn't on that said my grandmother thought I was like here doing drugs and some ship. I was like, damn, I gotta get to ship, right, And so then the show and Living Color was looking for other comedians and I went in

and put it like the cattle call. So went from a hundred to fifty to five to ten down to five, So it was me and for the cash, right, and to be honest, during the audition part, I was blowing that ship. I wasn't doing good. But then Keenan said, look, I want to see y'all do stand up and I was like, oh, Ship, and the other four people didn't do stand up comedy even though so they had to this when the laugh Factor we first started. So I go down to the laugh Factory. But I was late

on purpose because I wanted to go last. So when I go up, you know, like in the hood, Like in the hood, you always play your music, because that's where I came from, like robbing Harris because so I told him. You know, I was like, I got my music and Ship I had a queued up. But the laugh Factor is more like the white place. So I said, play the music. They didn't play the music. I was like, oh, Ship.

So I went up there and just started freestyling some Ship and in the audience was Keenan and Jim Carrey and the Flag Girls. But I did this one joke, bro, and it was about uh. I said, black and white people, black and white men. Uh uh. The only difference is the heartbeat because the average the average black man. The average white man's heart beats like this, right, while the

average black man's heart beats like this. They're going crazy going then, I said, ladies, I said, ladies, I said, ladies. That's why when you made can love. I'm not saying who's better, but who would you rather make love to? Somebody like this or would you rather make love to an ovation? Bro? I saw Keena, everybody going crazy man, the Flag Girls and Boom. I was on the show where did you get the motivation for some of the characters?

You you know, made your career off of Wanda? Oh Man, Man, listen, you know what Wanda came from. Just you know how motherfucker run on time. I grew up girl, So so you know, you take all them girls that you grew up with that type of ship and you bring them up. Man. You know how Texas is man and all where about being? But that came on one night I had ran out of material and I just said, hey, all the pretty

girls makes you know, pretty girls clapping? I said, now all the ugly girls, let me hear you say something. And it was complete size. I said, man, look at all the up girl was talking about talking about it started like that, I did that character after audition. So when Keenan said, hey, man, do that motherfucking other girl that you do? Uh for one of the for one of the shows. So he reached in his bag bro found his blond as wig and it was like, I'll

rock your world and that. Yeah, but that but I needed that because if you think about it, living coloring all those characters that were doing at the time, you needed to get a character. It's not that was gonna fire, yeah, because you know, it's just like it's like any basketball team, you was gonna get cut. So that character took off, man, and then like it took off, and I loved it. But then I had to shed that ship because like you know, motherfucker's was, you know, like the girls ship.

And he was coming up to me in clubs and you only give you the bit. I said, hold on, I remember, I remember this crazy I remember Johnny Gil Johnny Guild. Johnny Gil said some one time to go. He said, hey, hey, my my mind, n hold on. So so I didn't want to get stuck in the motherfucker. So you know, I just had to keep coming to other characters so I could keep hitting my different ships.

So you know, they say, I don't just do her, I do all these How instrumental was Keenan every way is not only in for a living color, but launching and giving guys like yourself, Jim Carey, I mean, David Allen Greer, Tommy Davidson that platform to go on you. If you think about that cast, I'm sure you've done it. But all you guys went on to long, successful longevity and whatever profession and you know, whatever reil we wanted to do. Compared to that coach, that was really hard on.

I remem m Keenan saying listen, you gotta prove yourself. Maybe I don't think it was funny as everybody else, but at the same time, what he did was when you walk on the set, bro, it was all black people, black writers, black people working. I said, damn mind the right spot. It was all black. But he held that ship here all of you you had to be absolutely air tight. But what it was, man, he had his finger on the culture. Bro. He knew the music. He

had to fly girls. But every time we went out to do some jokes like, we would come to keen and said, yo, man, we don't think the writers is writing funny And I said, yes they are, y'all. Motherfucker's just saying trying. And he would take whatever that was written. He would look through that ship. He said, go try this, and the next thing, you know, bro, we would have talked of the town on that Monday morning. So it's like he was he was constantly like he would constantly

put us in competition with each other. You know, Tommy Davidson killing that ship. Uh, David Evan Rear killing that ship. Everybody was killing and what he did was he made it sexy. It was like everybody came to the show. J Loo was on the show. I remember seeing j Lo. The first time I saw j Loo, I said, hey, man, I'm not hitting on you. You're the most beautiful person in the world. I said, I got a girl. I said, but congratulations and she was like she was chilling that ship.

And so we became friends. And then, like if you think about it, back at the time, every hip hop star he was seeing the future. All the hip hop is coming to a living color. Yeah, man, you have Uh. Teddy Riley was in Dots Affect everybody. So he taught you how to be fly with your ship like you could be funny but at the same time be super fly. Oh that was you know what I'm saying. So to this day, we're still rocket Man and and and those guys are still doing their thing. And uh, it's because

of those early lessons. Keenan never ran because I don't. I don't think we hear him mention enough to you know, to to that man he gave to the game. He he put, he put all that ship together, and he had a motherfucker nervous dog. Look, we're supposed to be there at ten. I got there nine fifty nine. Pulled me out to meeting. While you're late, I said, it's nights nine, No nine, No, we started working in a ten. So you gotta give me an answer. I said, like, like,

like what, you better figure it out. You can standing out here to figure it out. I'm not talking a damn Maybe I got a principle, like what the fund? And so I would just sleep on the set so I wouldn't be late, because you know, I'll come out the club. And I come out of the club, I was AI and be talking about practice, and I'm talking about I was supposed to be franchise player. So I was just go straight to the set and then just wake up. I'll be on time the Jamie Foxx show,

something I watch, you know Fancy Braxton. You know Mama talked to us how that came about and how you end upetting that off the ground. To be honest with you, Bro, I had ran out of money. Uh, and Living Color was over. I remember, you know, l A tough on you too. Right after the Living Color was I was riding. I had this little BMW with the top there, and I'm riding down the street like on sunset or something, and Uh, I hear somebody say that ship over, motherfucker.

I was, damn that over, motherfucker's I said, got there. It was bad, and I remember like Chris Tucker was coming up. I remember Chris Tucker was coming young. I was like, god, damn you hit. And I remember this girl ran up to me. She said, oh my god. I'm like, what's up? She said, do you know where Chris Tucker is? I said, oh the fuck. So I had moved to Vegas, bro, because I ran out of money.

And then uh, this this this this network called the w b UH was starting their network, and so I went in and met with them and said, I got this idea and people probably have to google this, but there was this uh English television show called Fawlty Towers with John Kleaves and it was like the Benny Hill and all the type of yeah, all of all of them. So I saw that hotel show. I said, hey, man, I want to do a show like that where I I, my my, my, my, my aunt and aunt were in

the hotel and I come to work there. And by having the hotel we can have different people fall through then, you know what I'm saying. And so they was like, okay, cool, we dig it. We're just trying to get going. So they gave me the opportunity, and bro, I remember the upfront. You know you gotta go to the upfront to announce your show. Bro, I didn't even have a limo. It was like I went to getting the limo and some

ladies slapt my hand. That's not for you, that's for uh Savannah and some of the shold man limo and they put me in a van. I'm like, oh, bring it up. You know that plain white panel van. I said, damn nigg So finally the show come out, though bro it did sign Feld numbers. It did like like she's

like the fourteen or something like that. And then it just caught, you know, and then uh, fancy fancy came from the r. Kelly video grassing of course, Garrett Morris and all them, and you do you don't know when you're doing it, bro, but it just it just all came together and it became like this thing that people, you know, people gravitated to them and and it was it was on absolutely I loved that ship that was

dough ninety six. Gary McGuire movie comes out. You went out for tid Well, Uh they end up giving up the Cuba goodon Junior? How bad did you want that role? Because I was the dope movie. Bro. It was. It was crazy because you know, the dude saw me read for it and says he's gonna love it. I said, who tc, Tom Cruise gonna love it? I said, what? So, Bro,

I ended up reading with Tom Cruise. It flew me to New York, you know, but you know I wasn't used to seeing a big stars and ship, you know, So in the reading, Bro, I'm reading the ship and you know, I'm I'm from TV shows, reading kind of loud and then I was like, yeah, show me the money, you know what I mean, looking at Tom Cruise like yeah, show me, you know what I mean? And Tom here was you know here movie actor. So his voice was soft, he said, so I couldn't hear him. So I thought

he had lost his place. I said, uh we right here says I know, I've already said my life. I'm waiting on you, and you know, mother got nervous and ship started sweating. I blew it. And after I blew it, I was like, damn no, I blew this ship. The the producer was mad at me, and then uh, Cuba Gooding got it right. But then when Collateral came up.

When Collateral came up, Tom Cruise remembered that him and Michael Man and boom he liked to read and boom and so you know what ended up being limits turning out being eliminated because we did Collateral and we actually get nominated for Collateral. So you know, just just hanging in there, man, you know, making that shift pop. I was like, man, I can't. I can't missing free throws like that because I'm Mr free throws out. I missed

that any giving Sunday, Yeah, how did that role. Come about that start that start your sophomore year when you got punched in the Solar PLEXI he was traded to be a really baby and then I didn't even know man, but it was crazy. It was crazy because Oliver Stone directed it and basically Puffy was supposed to play the part. But Puffy was you know, he was dealing with big

businesses and everything like that. So, uh, Oliver Stone at one point when I came in to read again in you know, he said I was horrible, Bro, because I was like reading loud, and she says, fuck, is you reads so loud? You this television ship is sucking me up. So what I did was, Bro, I had just got that ninety seven coop, that Mercedes, I got a cam qorter bro, put on my football gear, took all my homies gut and just started like like I was in

a like I was in training camp, Bro. And while we was doing the training camp ship, I came up with a song. My name was Wally with money. I keep the ladies creaming and all the fast you gotta scream and think you can't be feak me, You're dreaming. So we made this song up and Bro, I showed him the tape. That's who the funk I'm looking for right now, That's who I want. So we started in and give him Sunday Bro, and we're shooting that ship in Miami. I need to get paid. All the money

that I got, Bro, I spent it in Miami. I was just the first time Nika absolute z bro said the dog I had a ball. Nikka was in Miami with mess shirts and and Farrari's and ship. I was fucking I was on allay man and then you think about everybody that's in it. Alfaccino, uh Jim Brown, Lawrence Taylor, uh L, Dennis Quay, Me and ll was fighting. That ship was real. Ain't never yet count us about that because I heard you touched on that. I heard there was some real ship going on with that was his

feeling on that, Yo. What what what happened was is that for some reason, like he he kept slapping me, he thought I think he thought it was a little bit real in the in the movie, like Nigga, we're not really on the fucking team, like we really don't have to get to practice, like we're going to say action.

But you know it was. But I think That's what made the movie real because we was like really competitive, but we were doing the scene and the motherfucker put the motherfucker pushed me in the scene, bro, and I swear to god, I landed and somebody else to set. I went back so far, I said, what the fund? And so then he got testy, man, and we got to scrap it on whatever like that. You know, but you know Green, you know I won't get the whole another set. I woke up in Jerry mcgrin said, why

does this thing? Has Niver pushed me like this? Man? You know this ain't a real movie. But you know, we worked the ship that week. Were cool now but at the time and sort of goofy, but if fueled the scene because when we was doing them scenes and Willie Beamon was going through a ship, that ship was real man, because it's like, you know, you know how this is man. You get competitive, you know, you get really competitive, and girls on the set, and you know

I was. I was so wild. Every time every time I showed up to the set, I had a Hummer, had a different car every time. You know, I was playing the whole role. Had the girls in the car and ship showing up to the set, so I was I was out in my mind, bro. But it as far as just the acting goes, like that speech. Everybody remember the Alpaccino speech, right, Here's the fun fact. Alpaccino was having a tough time with that speech because he ain't never been around football. That's that's where I I

knew football. So when he was he was trying to get that speech off, I said, hey, I said, out, when you talking to these players, they want your players, they're your family. I said, a lot of these players come from the hood. They only father is you, So you gotta talk some like it's your father. Man. That motherfucker turned up on you. Motherfucker turning in your fighting motherfucker, I said, job, he was, how was the football sayings? That I know? They had to be dope to shoot?

How was the football sayings? I wanted to do all of my stunts right, So we would shoot all night, but they would shoot the football scenes during the day. So I would go sleep for like two or three hours and then go to the B team and then shoot, put the mic on when when the director wasn't there, and shoot my own football scenes. Because I didn't want nobody. I all wanted it to be me. By doing that, I got the lion share of the park because the way all of the Stone wrote the movie is that

he wrote it for everybody's narrative. But since I would go to boast man, I was working like eighteen hours a day, bro, But I wanted to get their football right. And they didn't know that I could really throw that thing, because I could throw the thing about fifty sixty yards in the air. So I was there and are getting man and if it felt good, and it's like all that ship that we had in Texas, it all came

into play. Even when it came into I said, hey, because sometimes they want to do a movie ship like I want you to drop back and didn't do a spin. I said, they don't do that in the NFL. Back you got a certain amount of time we got to get the ship off. And so by having that background, it made it look authentic, you know what I'm saying. And then but the one thing I did do, though I took a hit there was like you wanna take

a mother don't given motherfucking Texas. Don't hit me. They don't get I don't know, motherfucking after nick, I'm I'm a real athlete, man, just a little motherfucker's safe came through my motherfucking nigga this part of my helmet, and I said, hey man, anybody else hitting me, they're gonna get fired. Don't how motherfucker putting my ship back here, so you know, And it was crazy because t O was done their mother and t O was a beast.

They told TiO said line because you know it was it was pro football players against the arena league guy. So To was lining up all the dvs and said they could guard him. He was killing them. And at one point they ran up the running reverse for t O and he ran off the set his mother's and the motherfucker dude with the camera said you think you can can you can keep up with him? I got him, like I just turned look out, I got it. Motherfucker took off the mother's running cooled, both his hands blew

out on the tires of the fo. We don't have to hear you slow down, t say, s I better. You've played some amazing supporting roles leading up to obviously where you were the main star. You know. Obviously any given Sunday he played alongside Will Smith and Ali Tom Cruise in Collateral. Looking back on that, what does that mean to you? And what resonates the most about all that? I always give props to to Uh, to Will Smith. He wanted me to play Bundeini Brown and Ali Muhammad.

Ali is a property. How are you gonna be? God? Shuck? Shouldn't you come out to the garage? But number two? But I wouldn't have had the opportunity had he not told the director, Yo, I'm rocking with Fox, or I don't do the film, And so yeah, it's been and you know they don't happen in Hollywood, man, you know they don't happen in our business. So my main thing was that being those characters, alongside those guys. I wanted

to be that Scottie Pipple. I wanted to be that person because I knew that that if Will Smith is doing Ali, especially with the Ali, because it was so important and Will was such a big star and it's a a big star. Um. I was there to make sure that he didn't have to worry about what I was doing. This part of the movie is gonna be solid and you don't realize it, but you're hanging another

character in the rafters. That's sort of like if we're referring to Basketball, all of my characters when I look at him, Man, if it's Wander or Willie Beamon, Bun, Bundy Brown or all these characters, I hang them up. So whenever you get a chance to do the character on that type of level, Um, I want to be able to look back at my career and say, man, I turned into all these different people and sold it. You know what I'm saying. Like you know what I'm saying.

So it's like I take that and and now to this day, man, and in our business, you know, as much as you put into it, you can continue to work and continue to find shi. So I feel like I'm just still just getting started. It's party two too late to started acting career. Man, it ain't never too late. Man, Come on, man, jack what you wanna do? Man? The movie Steven Jackson, I'll make love to pressure. There you go. We're gonna have a segment for that at the end.

So yeah, hold on, we're gonna get to that. Definitely. I love hearing that. To me, It's it's hard to embody when you're playing a public figure or another famous figure. You were able to do it obviously with Ray Charles. You mentioned you're working on the Mike Tyson movie as well. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Yeah, man, uh, you know I've been looking. When I went on stage in the Hood Comedy Act theater, right, I started killing, killing,

killing as a young, young, young comedian. Right. But one particular night, I'm on stage and I get to my Mike Tyson joke because that's my best joke. Everybody go crazy on that joke. And I get to that joke and I do it and nobody laughed. You know why, because Mike Tyson's in the audience. Nigga's out here. The niggas said it was black. It was something in the

back stage, Joe, Mike is here here. I said, oh Ship, And then you know, everybody was like you my frightful And then a little black a little black girl was in the front. What you're gonna do, Jamie, You're scared, You're gonna do your jokes and like this, shut up up. This is where Mike was knocking. Mom fucker's out for just smiling and Ship. So I was like damn. So then the dude, you know that said your. Mike said,

do the joke and that ship better be funny. Crowd went from looking at Mike and then looked at me. So I do the joke, Mike Tyson, Kentucky Fried Chicken, whatever the joke was, right, I think I did the joke. The joke was Mike Mike Tyson driving No, it was me driving up to Kentucky Fried Chicken. And I said I couldn't see, but I heard, and I thought Michael. I thought Mike Tyson was. I was working at Kentucky Fried Chicken because I heard Hi, Chicken, take your orders

and this. I was like, oh ship, so standing ovation And after that, Mike comes up to me and says, Verry, it's the crazy motherfucking just punched me in the chairs. Like I'm okay man. So I started hanging out with Mike and Bro. He was bigger than the world. He was bigger in all the My to do had a Lamborghini truck. We'll be at the club. He see a girl, his be like, hey, you like BMW, you like card, you like Bess? And I mean, like what And he would go to BMW shot just buy one. I've watched

Mike his whole career. And then I watched The Good, the Great, the Bad, and the Ugly and now this Mike, And so I said, Mike, you have to let me embody you. You have to let me tell your story. And so now Martin Scorsese, who hasn't done a boxing movie since Raging Bull, has agreed to take on the helm. And when we were talking about the movie, I said, what's interesting about Mike. It's not the ring now, it's the mic that we see now. It's the mic that

when he lost it all. When I called Mike one time, I said, Mike, how you doing it? And it's this voice all crases to allow my brother to attack. So why are you happy? I'm happy. I don't have any money anymore. I don't have the money. Said why do you said that? Why why does it make that? It because no one could take anything from anymore vultures. Nobody has to try and take taking from me. So I'm just happy. I said, that's the person. We gotta show,

the person who lived the life. And he'll tell you I either live on top of the mountain on the bottom of the ocean. I said, when we embody that, I said that Mike when I play you, I'm gonna I'm gonna embody you so well that when I walk into your house, your kids will run up and say, Dad's hard. So it's it's gonna be one of those ones. And I'm I'm telling you, and it's it's and you remember the I don't want to give too much of

the way, but a lot of it. We bounced back and forth to the documentary of him being in the documentary. So when I strapped that one on, that's gonna be When should we expect that in theaters if theaters come back. Yeah, Well, you know the thing is now, by having this lapse, it gives us a little bit of time to like correct some things we want on the script, so so we you don't be being able to touch all the basis.

But you're looking at two thousand twenty one, the beginning of it, shooting it, and then possibly at the end of the year unveiling. So um, look, man, I think Mike's come on, man, that that era in that time, his unprecedented president. Let's talk a little. You touched on Ray Charles earlier, but being able to embody him the way you did, what kind of historical significance does that mean to you? Because he was so important to our culture as a whole, and for you to be able

to embody that, how important was that to you? I think it was super important because we don't always get a chance to tell our legend stories, and so that was the first time we got a chance to see a legend and all of his glory, his good, he's bad, and his ugly and at the same time present the music in a way to where the whole world was affected.

I mean. And the backstory of is that it was an independent film, so we had to We got a little bit of the money from Phil and Shoes who you know on the stapleson, but we had to prove to him that it was uh, it was worth it. So at one point we created the Singer Theater in nineteen sixty seven and we did let the Good Times Roll. It wasn't in the movie, but we had to do it for the investors to let them see it. So

we had a thirty piece orchestra. The investors walk in, the director says hit it, and we go boom, Hey, y'all tell everybody great Charles in town. Boom got a dot on the card up and I'm just ready of the clown. Don't let nobody playing your cheek. I got thicker bits fall and our planning a kid for let it get to our role spent bad. I'm all s s bad. Just get yourself to let the good time go.

I go up to man Steve Steve. Then I go up to the to the to the investor and said, I understand the big pocket the money is, so we get so we get the money. I had to set up and then once we do the movie, man, think about how the movie moved the culture after the moa uh, Kanye West, Kanye West, after the movie Kanye West. I mean because like going back to the parties that I was thrown. The way I met Kanye was at the party Brian, Brian. That's that's why people looking at Brian

dance and he just don't dance. Someone pushed it together. The motherfucker brought He brought this that same party that I was telling you about the jay z and everything. The next party, Brian says, I got this dude named Kanye West. I said, what's a Kanye West? He said, listen, I'm telling some motherfucker cole. So when Kanye came over. I said, I said, Brian, what do you do? He said, he rapped? He produced. I said, okay. So I walked up to Kanye and said, hey, man, you know when

people come to my house, man, they gotta perform. Man. They said, you're wrapped. This motherfucker freestyle some ship man Steve. I said that. God damn, how come you ain't famous? He says, I'm trying to get on and he goes, uh, I got this song that that I think you'll be good on. Yuh, I think you'd be good on the song. And so well, what is it? I got a studio on the back. So we go on the back of

my studio and the motherfucker said the song go. She says she wants some marvn game, some Luther vange Yaw. I said, oh, ship, I said, I got it. So I started singing. I started singing the ship all high and said he said, and this one I knew Kanye was boss. He said, uh, what you're doing? I said, when I'm trying to put the rmb ship on, because you know what I'm sing RMBC, I'm putting the R and B. Don't do that just singing this ship record. So when he said that, I thought like, oh, you know,

Stone ain't gonna make it. The next thing, you know, Brion was like, remember that song you said you want to make. It's a number one in the country. Fast forward, fast forward, it's number one in the country. And then Ray Charles comes out. Brian hit me again said wake your grass up, with your gass up, with your ass up. He said everything three times. He said, get down here. Uh, Kanye gotta missile. And this is after Ray Charles that

came out. So I get to the studio and Brian said, just follow my leave whatever you do, follow my lady. So we're going there and Kanye is playing the track to gold Digging Thum, I ain't saying she gold digging well, but she ain't miss I said, oh ship, Brian hit stopped on the record and said that ship is whack and let you put a fox on that. Mother and said, Brian, what you doing? He said, mother, you know what I'm doing.

Just get in the studio. So I get in the booth, bro and we take over the session and we keep going over and over and I said, running back, running back again, and I said, and then the next year, you know, about an hour on the hand, she take mama yea trend. Indeed, Oh she's Aliger where over black Man two Facts, two thousand and six Grammy Awards. With Grammy Awards, you get a chance to perform Georgia on My Mind with Alicia Keys. Yeah, talk to us about

that at that point. Man, you know this is you know, movies have a it's like an it opens up like a flower. So that's when the flowers full bloom. Now we get a chance to uh celebrate Ray Charles music on the highest level with the incredibly talented Alicia Keys Quincy Jones at the time was was a conductor, which was beautiful. We had lost Ray Charles. Ray Charles had transitioned, but he got a chance to view the movie in his own way. And so here we are, you know,

dual pianos with me and Alicia, and it was just great. Man, she's amazing, is in so super talented. And but there was one situation where I felt like the song, I felt like we were playing it, you know, straight, but I felt like we needed to put a little sauce on it because it's Alicia and it's myself. So it's like Georga Arga, the whole d Angel. It's like the

old Freeze song Jorga all my mind right. And I said, Alicia, why don't we take a page from Biggie when we do the when we do the bridge boom boom boom boom boom or the read child to Ming boom boom boom boom boom boom. So we put a little thing in there just to sort of not you know, to the hip hop to the to the so yeah, and then and I said that when we're doing it, boom boom boom boom boom. And I told the baseline to go do the do Doom Do Do Do Do Do

Do doom boom boom boom boom boom. So to be able to not only be in that moment, but do something a little special to to not two people out there who's you know, the fans. Uh, It was dope, Man, we gotta stand in ovation And it was just another one of those things that you can hang up in the in the in the raptors and man, another moment beautiful following Ray Charles, that was such a big role. Were you picking your next projects carefully? Like? What what

changed after Ray Charles? It was crazy. Man like Rachel is such a big film and the Oscar and everything like that. I had to let it. I had to let the Oscar go because because my people was like, oh, we only need to do Oscar things. That's no, no, no, no no no. I want to go back to the to the funny. I want to stay funny. Matter of fact, I didn't even keep the Oscar with me because the Oscar had some kind of crazy power with it. Bro,

I can't explain it. You touched that ship and you start speaking in an English accent and ship you know when I stopped it. Action it's small. I start take the ship. So you see people to win them oscars and ship. That's a curse, bro, I said, I don't want that. I want to tell these jokes. I went on the comedy too. After that, I was at Madison Square Garden and at that time there was rumors that me and Oprah were in some type of relationship, which was funny. So I went on stage. I said, I'm

dating everybody. Man, but but but but we were cool, and I did the joke. I said, they said I'm dating everybody, and so I said, so I'm laying in the bed with Oprah, I'll lean over the gale and said, hey, man, this is crazy, right they step to give me some juice right standing ovation And I said, if I think the joke was, if I wasn't making love to open, she'd have a brand new episode of her of her favorite things. And I did the whole thing. Jamie, we

got something, Jamie ly Jeu two thousand twelve. Uh, Jango, How did that come about? Yo? Two thousand twelve. I had changed management and uh, literally like I heard about django? Man through I heard about Jango from uh Tyler Perry, m H. Saler. Perry was like, have you heard have you heard about this Django? This Django movie says yes with um with um Quentin Tarantino. I said, oh, that sh sound crazy. So he was. He was talking about it and then Will Smith and I was like, man, oh,

will you gotta do that ship? I said, motherfucker. He was like, well, he didn't know if he wanted to play a slave. I said, yea, yeah, you're not a slave. He wrote though, but you know, so he passed and then, uh, I've seen the motherfucker interest at Interest album. I was at the show. I was doing the show. He came back and said, yeah, you heard this ship smoovie smoothe Janka until intein know what's you George movie? Quentin Tarantino shopping up Jane Games. I was like, Yo, yo, good

looking black motherfucking ass. Better do that ship man. You know, just what was that? What was that was that? To his smooth league the un school game? You know what do you think? I said, man, Yo, look at motherfucking ass. You gotta do that ship man. But for whatever reason, they all passed. And then I got a chance to

come in and meet Quentin Tarantino. And the thing was is that you know, he never saw rain, you know, so the way the way he saw Ray was that he was looking for wardrobe lady and the wardrob lady didn't race, so he watched it. Had me come in, and I was already off script. I was already off book again, being prepared man, being that sophomore in football, being ready and uh. And I told him I know about the word nigger and all that to stand what that was back then, and it's necessary to tell the

story so they don't bother. I understand that. And then I told him, I said, well, here's the thing though, Dog, I got my own horse. And he said, shot your own fucking horse. I said, I got my own horse. What the fuck? I said, yeah, it's outside, bro, and I said, not only that, but your stuck horse looked just like my horse. We just gotta paint the feet, just paint the paint the shoes white and we're good. And so he was like, I've never in my entire

fucking life heard that somebody bringing the horse. I said, I got my horse right uside, Bro, let's know what we're doing. And boom. I got on the movie, bro, that you know, and then we got into the movie. Man, you know, it was it was volatile, but it was a movie that for black and white folks. But it was the first time you saw a black character really be the hero. And was all Quentin Tarantino. He really

wanted that to happen. When Django came out, man, you know, it was gang Busses and it was like, you know it uh, you know, it moved the culture in a different way. Yea. And people didn't understand the history of Django. There have been jangos made years back. Django was a character from Italy from the Spaghetti Westerns. That's how you got Clint Eastwood. So when I did that, that version broke. When I go to Italy or in any of these places, I can't even walk the street because that was you know,

that was like a superhero. Yeah. So so it all worked out. That's beautiful. What was it like working with Leo to me, one of the most underrated actors of our generation, What was it like being able to team up with him on that? First of all, that that's the homy man. A lot of people don't know, like Leo is like a real, real dude, and you know, you don't have to. I don't. I don't validate nobody just because they entered the culture. But like Leo stood in line for the big album back in the day,

his best friend is you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that that's why. That's why in Wolf of Wall Street when he popped, like, that's really him, that motherfucker, Like he really on the ship. The motherfucker he does his things if oh man all the way, and the cold part about it was, you know, he knows the whole all the scenario. Here we go, Yo, one day, I'm gonna get that motherfucker to do that ship. But he's

a real dude. And when he came on to the set when we first did the readthrough, he had problems with the word niggado because he was saying and he said, oh, pala, I can't I can't say this. I just can't do it, and then sent Meel Jackson goes, hey, motherfucker, it's just another Tuesday. I said that ship, I said, I don't like. So he had to really wrap hisself into that character. And at one point I said, I put him to the sec that Leo, listen, I ain't your friend right now.

We're back in the day, and who was back in the day. They would they would kill you hanging out with me talking to me face and face. So you gotta let that ship go. Man. The next day, that motherfucker came into the set and I said, what's up, Leo, Yo, what's up? What's up? Then speak to me when they say action. Motherfucker went in his bag and that's one of the cars. That's one of the coldest performances. You take the performance out and and he talks about the performance.

I won't I won't say some of the private stuff that he talked about. I won't say who it is, but there was this black guy when he grew up he used to hang out with and so he mimicked that character for for for that movie. Man so powerful, motherfucker man when he came on to the when him and Samuel finally came on to the set, Man the motherfucker's walking and slow motion with their baits and ship man, real Hollywood stars, all stars, imagine an all star Samuel Leo.

I mean, the motherfucker was going at it. So that's why that movie did what it did. Beautiful thing. Speak us a little bit about how important social justice and uh equality is to you in your life and and you know the the role you played and bringing more attention on the Traylon Martin situation. Well, I mean, look, man, the one thing about social media what it has done is pulled up the carpet. It lets us see something that we've been something that we've known about for a

long time, the underground, the sincerity and the racism. Um. Now it's wide open. Even if you look at today's world, what's going on right now? What happened to I think the mayor of Georgia just posted something that was you know, these Uh, these terrible, terrible words that someone DM I live. I live out here and in Georgia, and h they's somebody somebody called us some names and she posted it to put them on blast, but to let you know that you know, that ain't gonna stop up from what

she's trying to do. Yeah, and so so now, like I said, we've known about this for all our lives. Now we're dealing with the face and face. So doing movies like Just Mercy with Michael B. Jordan's, man, man, it's so important. It's so important because thanks man, thank you. And it's so important because you know, Michael B. Jordan's

what he's doing for the for the culture. Man, Like when he did uh, you know, when did Fruitville Station, you know, like he started laying that narrative down, and even when he did Black Panther, he still had a narrative for us that was, you know, highlighting us important for us. So Just Mercy is just the evolution of that, you know, doing a movie to where we put the spotlight on a person who's wrongly accused of a rape

and put on death row without a trial. And when we got into these roles, man, we knew we were doing something special and important and because it sits home with me. Man, you know my pops, he was a coach at Lincoln High School. Man, they put my pops in jail for twenty five dollars worth of the legal substance. They put him in jail for seven years. Come on, man, this dude was an educated for twenty five years in

the hood. He would have kids at the school seven days a week just so they wouldn't get shot or or give him something to eat. So here they take this man who would bring the judge to the school, who would talk to the kids. You know that very judge presided over his case. Put him in jail with some of the kids that you feel what I'm saying, see is is it personal? And the thing is is that I don't go visit nobody in jail. Bro, I

don't do that. I can't. I can't. And even when my pops, I said, I told him, I can't see you like them and I see you as a king, I can't. I can't see you like that. So I wrote in one letter, I said, when you get out, I'm gonna save your life. And I fought. I fought the people, I fought in people for years, and you know they didn't understand that my pops Man was so important to me. He will. He made me round it like he showed me how to play tennis. I said,

why A were learning? Why A were learning what white people do? He said, because I want you to be able to go everywhere. So imagine me playing tennis with my pops Man. You know in text I couldn't play at the country club, but he was getting it in. So when you get out, man, this is two thousand one. He get out, I said, listen, I'm gonna save your life. You come live with me. He right over there, right now. We've been here for almost twenty years. Twenty years now

together man, so and and and so. It's it's important that we keep that narrative, that we don't get exhausted. That's what's great about Brian Stevenson, the the the lawyer that Michael B. Jordan played. He doesn't get exhausted. He keeps ringing the bell saying we have injustices and injustice we're always rearest ugly head. And the most inopportune time to look at it now with with we're dealing with COVID and who's going to be the one who are

going to suffer the worst? We are because of the injustice, because of the way we're structured in in society. We don't have the health care. We don't even when it comes to the money that they're giving out right now, what a black business is gonna do when you see everybody else sort of prospering to get money, how do they get the money? So it's it's a whole lot of things that we touch on just by doing the movie, and we just have to keep it. We have to keep it going. Our art is our way to crack

that code, is our way to open people's eyes. And I think, you know, like we'll continue to do that. Continuing to be great is the only way. Because we move, we set culture, we move culture, we shift culture. We are culture. So that's the only And I and I appreciate you, Matt, Like sometimes I've heard you speak, man, I heard you speak about a situation. I wanted to go into it now, but I heard you speak about a situation and where you said, no, we don't have

to live like that no more. We have our own voices. And I thought, what you and Stephen do, man, Like I don't even think y'all know, but it means so much because you keep it real. But at the same time, there's a level of intelligence and a level of I'm black and I'm proud to it. That that that makes us feel good about it, you know what I mean? A lot of special What act our filmmaker should we

have on our show? Now, listen before you answer this question, whoever you say, whoever the answer is, and you have that connect which I'm sure you do. You got to connect them. You know everybody? Yeah, you know everybody? So who do you think should be a guest on our show? You should have? Leo Man? Yeah, that there was a Black Honors and he came out and gave me the award.

Man and I explained them to Leo. I said, Leo, it's not that we're looking for validation, but when people like yourself lend yourself, give your energy to us and said, he's sports, said you gotta have him because he's sports. Said, I guarantee you I'll work on him. Man, But he's a he's a he's a dope. Mother. That's the same way we feel about show. Bro. You don't know what you're doing for our show. So hell yeah, and I

appreciate what we appreciate it. Man, Hell yeah, good call Jack, who's an actor actress you haven't worked with yet that you would like to m I want to work with I want to work to D. Man. Like like back to the party, I thought a party here, different kind of party where I had we featured. D D came to the party, he said, at the table, and he just uh, he just broke it down like all the actors and actress was in here and he was just giving us the keys you know to you know, uh

to how to you know, make ship right? You know in the business, you know, you know, you know how you talk. You know, of course you gotta do anything, you know, but boom, get that ship. But he was breaking it down so incredible for us. I said, man, I gotta work with him because I know when you work with him, you're gonna elevate. All right, Okay, alright, okay, okay, yeah. Because we had a we had a carry, we had a U Mariachi band for him, he said. I said,

you know you've got a Mariachi ban for you. You got a Maria alright, okay, got you. You got a Mariachi all right, Uh okay, Hey, what's your favorite uh what's your favorite TV series? Recent? Serious of all time? Samford? This Sun man, I'm watching that. I watched that every day.

I'm sorry. I watched that ship, bro, like I was watching that ship that when the motherfucker's the TV got stolen and ship just just classic, man, that's my great you mentioned early on in the nineties, everyone was around. You were around everyone. Any cool, biggier pop stories, man, ship. Tupacis just to be out. I remember one time he was at the comedy store. I was looking at Pop but we didn't we didn't look at him like Tupac. It was like, you know, and somebody pulled a gun out, nigger.

Somebody pulled a gun out the comedy store and shot that motherfucker. He was like ah, and so just running down the street with Tupac, I mean back by this. It was crazy. And then you know, we would see him mountain and I remember that night, the night the night he passed away. I remember him like it was so crazy, man, like in the argument with these guys and he was like pop, man, man, it ain't worth,

it ain't worth or whatever. And I was living in Vegas at the time, and then that night, man, you know, unfortunately, the whole world stopped man, and I remember walking into the I remember walking into the MGM Graham and mc hammer walked up to him and said, man, he gone, this was early. He was like, stop man, cut the bush and we just see him. So unfortunately, um, you know that story, but just to be able to know too, funk. I remember. I remember how he was so nice to

my mom. Like we were at the standing called the Urban League, right, you know, some guys was tripping at him, and he was like, but he turned around and saw my mom was so gracious man, and he was like, how you doing, sweetheart? You know that's so mannerable and so cool. So I don't know, man, it's it's surreal that he's gone, uh and things like that, but those those just be the homie. Then he came and didn't

a living color. He came and didn't living color, and when he came in, it was just like, you know, you didn't realize that these were gonna be moments that would last forever in time, to be very significant because he wouldn't be here. But this happy, go lucky fun and just uh just so sad, but at the same time beautiful to be able to have those moments. What's your favorite sports moment? Uh, Lebron James coming back three one, that's big. That was big. That was that was big.

That moment. If you can sit courtside at any game in NBA history, what game would it be? Oh, it would be uh damn, it would be eighty Uh When when was Magic Johnson? Huhm when he hit the hook? Eighty seven? Yeah, eighty seven got him mighty beautiful. You want to talk about beauty, poetry, emotion. Never, I'll never forget that. And what's crazy was I was in college

and me in my roommate. You know, he was white from like normal from Oklahoma, and you know we weren't tripping, you know, we weren't tripping on the on the on the teams because you know, I was a Maverick fan. But at the same time, we just automatically started routing. I said, he said, come on, come on. I was like, come on, come on, Magic. Next thing, you know, we got on Lakeer, Jersey whatever. And just just to see that see that ship play out like that, Bro, that's

just amazing. I was course out that history um, your favorite impersonation? Yeah, your favorite impersonation? Give us that character real quick. Who's your favorite person to celebrities? Favorite celebrity to to mimic? Uh? Ship, there's so many like I know you do damn to everybody. It's got to be my text right now. All right, So we had the Beggest segment, right this is a part of the segment. This is part of the segment. Well, you know, we all we all fans of all the all our guests

and some things we want to ask for. So this is my Matt. Are you involved today, Matt? No, I just want to be on set alright. Cool. So bound Matt is helping me launch my my my acting career because he's gonna be behind the camera, you know what

I'm say, doing a lot of stuff. So so not only do I want to be on set one of your movies and kind of learn from you and kind of see how you move around and how you do how you get into character, but I also if you have something going on, let your boy get a camera or something. Got it, I got it already down that Listen. We're gonna hold this other down, Jack, Listen, this is what we're gonna do Jack, I got a new TV

show on Netflix. It's called Dad Stop Embarrassing, and it's about me and it's about me and my oldest daughter all the ship that we don't win through from the boys, to the to the to the to the drinks, to everything. So we just sold it. We shot just before we went. Now, Bro, you gotta come on all the way. I'm serious, Jack, I'm serious that I'm coming on. Man. We gotta make this man that should be good fresh Matt. I'm gonna

get some Bro. We got listen and we gotta put it in the script of where you have to say that team when you are you're nervous. I love the fresh fresh with good Hey man, Well Jamie, thank you for your time. Man, We really thank you. Thank you guys. Man, you guys keep you. Thank you man, Hey, that's you uh man, amazing episode thought, brother Jamie. You can cast us Showtime, basketball, YouTube or all platforms, streament podcast, all of him. You have a call from an innate at

Williamson County Jail. You do it? Did you do it? In the state of Texas, there is no bigger community activity than high school football. It's Friday night life greg was one of the best football players. He's smart. The momentum he had is unlike most students ever experienced. I got a text message with krit Kelly's photo and I just said, do you know this kid? There was a crime minuted according to this four year old boy. It just turned nun like. This can't be two, This can't

be two. And that's when a second victim came forward with the jury fund the defendant, Gregory Kelly, guilty of your films. This trial was a sham. There's been an outcry. Everyone's saying, you've got the wrong guy. That could have been me, that could have been any of us. They've built him up to be angelic, and then you fast forward to the search warrants and you get a different picture. Did you ever have you take a lot of teke test? Yeah,

I've passed every question but one. We've been on this journey to try to figure out what the truth is, and it's proven difficult at every turn. Initially I was pretty convinced of this incellence. Now I wouldn't be surprised either way. M h h. This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving, not yet. I was hoping you can say that we gotta hit the streets, make some money people like us. Let's destroy people like him. Buckle up, get Showtime free at showtime dot com m