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Hot NBA Teams, Miles Bridges, Jamal Crawford On New NBA Rules | WHAT’S BURNIN | SHOWTIME Basketball

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Another week of WHAT'S BURNIN is here. Matt and Stak discuss the teams in the NBA off to a hot start, including Knicks, Warriors and the Bulls. Plus, they are joined by NBA legend Jamal Crawford to talk about the new NBA rules and the impact on the game.  

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I mean, you're one player. I feel like if your career started over in this new era, there ain't no telling, fan man, it ain't no telling. Ain't no telling with Jack told he welcome back to what's burning Jack, Let's get to it. Heat check Alert the Heat. The Knicks, the Bulls, and the Wizards have all started off at five at one at the top of the Eastern Conference. Out of those teams, who do you feel like as a real top four contender? The Heat? For sure? Did

he belong on the top four? Um, they can stay healthy, you know with the new additions they added with Kyle Lowry and and the way those young guys been playing and continuing to grow. Uh, they definitely belonged on the top four and will be in the top four. I like the way that Jimmy Butler is playing. You know, he's back on his game. I think it points of game, seven, rebounds, almost six assists. Um, heater playing very well. I agree my surprise team of the season the way I picked

Phoenix last year and they made their run. I don't know if the Bulls can do this, but my surprise team of the season is going to be the Bulls, and I see the Bulls with the seventies sixer is kind of being uncertain of where they're at. I see the Bulls being that fourth UH seed in the Eastern Conference this year. Like good young team playing well, playing together led by Levine, then to Mars right there behind them, so I love what they're doing. Lonzo Balls playing well.

So I'm excited for this Bulls team. But I really like the Wizards, man. I like what they've done. You know, Bradley Bild is over there doing Bradley Bild things. Uh Denwoodie is almost that twenty points of game. Harolds that almost twenty and ten. Kuzma is at sixteen and twelve. These dudes are playing off the wall. They've got Kyle will Pope over there. So I like what the Eastern

Conference is really looking like. You know, the Knicks are the Knicks but playing well as well, so we'll have to see what they do see, you know, if they can advance for them they did last year. But the Eastern Conference looks fun right now. Headed out west, Golden State is at the top of the Western Conference tie with Utah Jazz at five and one. Jack. This team is playing with the confidence they definitely need to play with. Still don't have Clay, still don't have Wiseman, but still

are doing what they do. Talk to me about this team, Yeah, they did it last year. You know they did last year. Stepball Doll last year. He had the m v P season last year, and he's getting out to a great start. This team is too, and the young players that they got a chance to play a lot the last year. They last two years Clay has been hurt, they're started coming today on You add Clay, you got a championship team. You know, Jamond is gonna do what he does. So

I like what they've been doing. I like the direction they've they've been going. But when we get Clay back, it's gonna be exciting for not only just for the Warriors, but for the game of basketball. Man. I keep my fingers crossed every day the Clay can just come back and be healthy. You know, he's coming off two major injuries achilles and a c L injuries. But been looking at him on social media. Looks great. I definitely hope to have him back. And then Wiseman. Wiseman was very

impressive to me last year. He just did his job. He wasn't someone that needed the ball on the block, he can step out, hit the mid range, jumper, runs the court, hard, block shots, catch lives, rebounds. The Warriors are going to be something to mess with it. Don't be surprised if they If they have a lot of trade assets. Now man Lee and Pool are both at fourteen points a game. I loved the uh uh Pool. I think he's gonna be a really good player out of Port of Jr. Round out that bench. So don't

be surprised. We didn't even mention Iguodala. Don't be surprised if they have you know, I wasn't saying Iggy, but you know, something at the trade deadline to bring them in some more either depth or more star power. Uh to make a final push at the end of the season. Next up on the Radar, presented you by DraftKings Jack good early season test for the New York Knicks this Friday versus the world champion Milwaukee Bucks. Bucks are still odds on favor although they're off to a slow start.

Their three and a half one odds to win the Eastern Conference title. Although they're three and four, the Knicks are thirty five to one odds to win the Eastern Championship starting off five and one healthy New York Knick team, Jack, what does that look like in your mind? And what can they do? It looks like a great regular season, making it to the playoffs and getting exit after the first round. Um, they got, like I said, they got

a great group of young guys. Is playing hard. Dad Roses coming into his own again and playing well, and he's finally healthy and great coach, a great tough minded coach. And the fans of the fans that getting back into the rain and screaming and and being great, being exciting Nick fans again. So it's good to see. But first round Nixon for those guys, You're happy to see that team you know back in just playoff talks. Agreed. I think they're definitely a playoff team. I don't see them advancing.

I think they're one piece away still, so see if they're able to get that. But just love the fact that, you know, the Nick basketball is better when the Knicks are in the playoffs for however long that maybe uh Bucks are still trying to find their footing. We talked last week about the absence that you know, p J. Tucker. It doesn't alway show up on the stat sheet, but they will definitely miss him. Guys still in and out. Bobby Porters just returns uh Lopez has only played one game.

It seems like they've kind of replaced Pj's defensive presence with offensive scoring. Grayson Allen's having a good season, have thirteen off the bench. I think we have to kind of hold judgment for the Bucks right now. So they really figured out, but you know, with Joannice, we know they're going to be there at the end. So this will be a fun early test for the Knicks. Um, you know, the Bucks kind of know what it takes. They're still trying to find their footing with the Bucks

thought matter like people. What people don't understand is they won the championship from rebounding and defense. You know, they score points and they make some big shots with militant and Greek freak, but they won games and all the big games with defense and rebounding. People was walking into the arena k even k D knowing I gotta wrestle with with with p J. Tucker for four quarters. Now they're going in that arena seeing Grayson Allen and cuttingson.

They know they'ven go get thirty. So it's it's it's a different feeling. It's a different feeling walking into that arena. But I'm telling you, no, I agree. I agree. That team was great, grind, defense, rebounding, holding down the middle. You know, they tried to juice it up with scoring. So we'll see if that works for next up. One of our new segments, but one of our favorite segments, secured the bag by moneyline. Uh, Miles bridges to me, this kid is going to have a breakout season. He's

already started that he'll be the most improved player. He turned down an extension that he didn't feel was adequate to his abilities, which turns out to be Jack looks like he made the right decision. I want to say they offer him around sixty million. Uh. The way this kid's playing, he's easily going to get over a hundred million. Thoughts on this young up and coming star. Yeah, he deserves money, and he's showing that he was worth it. If he don't get it in Charotte, he's gonna get

it from another team. But I think Charlotte needs Sharotte is gonna do what they got due to keep him because they see the connection and the camaraderie to him and LaMelo have you know, they got the hand they got the handshake together. They looked for each other up and down the court almost every play. So they're gonna have to make some decisions there, and I don't know if it's gonna behave with he's making a lot of money.

They're gonna have to try to find some way to get Bridges paid right there, and Sharlotte Bridges is a cornerstone for this team. He's a franchise player. Him, Illa, Milla Ball are the faces of this team. To me, they would be absolutely crazy to let this young kid go. He's a monster. He plays defense too. He's always garden the best players, you know what I mean. So this

on the offensive end, he's incredible. I remember my last year with the Warriors, draymm was telling me about this kid and he was debating whether to come out or stay, and he was talking to the parents and everything, like in front of me and Ship and he was just telling me, like rotch Man, this little dude is gonna be a monster. And this motherfucking kid is a man. He's got a little bit of Blake Griffin in him. From from that athletic ability, but he's a he's a monster.

He's a dog too, So love him definitely over a hundred million. I think MJ knows that, um, so don't expect him to hit the open market. Jack. They got a nice core over here in Charlotte. Um is this setting them up for long term success? I mean they got you know, they got still got Hayward, they got Rozier, who's very underrated to me. I love him. Uh you bre is having a nice season because this team, you know, long term do something in the Eastern Conference a long term.

Maybe the core looks good, but the core doesn't look good with out Bridges and somebody who had to come out that core on Bridge us to be happy. So we'll see how they put how that plays out. Greed, I definitely think that again, if the two cornerstones are mellow and bridges um to build around that should be easy because it's it's fun now, it looks like it's fun to play over there. MJ is the owner. They

got their ship together. So again, look for Charlotte too in the next couple of years to to make some noise in the Eastern Conference. Make sure you catch our brother Ace Boogie Wood Harris. His episode drops November four. Enjoy this teaser. Let me tell you a story. Okay, I'm in New York pract I forgot what I'm working and working on something, but I'm telling them in New York City to something man had proper Manhattan. I'm in

a hotel one of my homies. We're about to get on the block, right, and you know it's New York City. Were walking, you know what I'm saying. So I see this little area. They got this caution tape up. It's kind of thugged out to get the men on one side of the street and then women on the other sides. Though something had happened, right, This is a I being in the least. It's a long time ago. So I see I see the little security dude inside the inside the club and it's it's it's caution tape all in

the club and ship we're walking by. I see the fly. I picked it up. It's supposed to be an Alan iverson party, right, So I'm like that probably, but is it really? Or they're throwing him other name on some ship, pulling in the crowd and you know what I'm saying, And get the money. Now they cleared the club out. The fight happened. They cleared the club out. No, Allen Iverson, who cares? We got all these people. So I see the security. Dude, I'm trying to keep game. I go

ask him what's the game? Though? Bro? He know who I am. You know what I'm saying. He recognized the Yeah, so what's the game? Does this is this fake ship? Because you know I'm gonna keep it pushing, But is this fake? It's policing there and everything, right, So he said no, this was really Allen Iverson. Man, you know this and that? So okay, cool, I leave me in

the homie league. We did. We're walking down the street and we get to the corner stretched white jag right, it's a I. He dipped the window because I had met him before, so you know, AI dipped the window down. Boom boom wood this and that. Yo. I jumped in the whip with him, so now we're chilling. We're driving when we kicked back, so I tell him as soon as I get in there, I was like, yo, man, caution, that's it dead over there. Like we drove by, We've seen the crowd all like it was and we gets

kept it pushing right. So we end up driving around city of New York for like while. I just talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, chopping it up right and just having a good time. And put you like having a good time. So he take me back to the crea. I go back to the hotel. Now it's probably like two in the morning. You know, it might be two thirty three in the morning. I watched a little tier of false slip. I wake up. He on TV now, right, they're playing Jason Kids. He

playing the nets. So he over the he over the water now playing the nets. So it's the AI with the dark circles and the hair ain't done right. So I know that AI now when you see and the hair ain't done right. He might have had a good time. He might have had a good time to night before, right, but he put forty three and twelve on the He had forty three and twelve. He had That's my story. He had forty three and twelve. If he don't go out and have a good he might not play good.

His routine has to be the same. He just different. That's super different. Jack. Today, we got a fund with men our brother someone we've been trying to track down for a long time, no fingerprints, no evidence, Fam himself Jamal Crawford, I know you've been looking forward to this interview. Yeah, man, that's my brother, man, one of my favorite backcourt mates. Man, one of the most talented players I've ever played with

the game. I call him Dion prime time, you know, because, uh, you know when he like Dion, he showed up when when the popcorn pop And that's what he used to always say. But somebody who I highly respect, man, and somebody who I hope he gets his his just due from the from the basketball family, in the basketball world, because you know, he's definitely a Hall of fame in a lot of people's minds. And and somebody that they pushed out the game to earlier. Agree, long, beautiful twenty

year career. Um. So, man, make sure you got stay tuned for the Jamal Crawford interview. Alright, we now bring in our brother Jamal Crawford, uh to finish up this episode of What's Burning? Uh. Also, his episode of All the Smoke will be dropping eleven eleven, so make sure you tap in and check that out. Fam. How was the game changed? As we celebrate seventy five years of the NBA, in your mind, the game has changed a couple of different times. I remember when we all first

came to the league. You know, you had a dominant post players, so you had a shock and call him alone. You know, you had Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnet exactly, so it was inside out. I remember, you know, coming and training him and I'll take my first three point off the drew and they stopped practice, like, man, what are you join? Like you can get that shot with five seconds left? Like you know what I mean, Like that's the worst shot in basketball. But now if you

can shoot that shot, it's a weapon. So if you can do that, you're more likely a probably your franchise player, you know what I mean. You're the one of the ones and one of the faces of the league. So to see it go from one opposite end of the spectrum to the other has been crazy. I mean, you're one player. I feel like if your career started over in this new era, there ain't no telling, fan man,

it ain't no telling. It ain't no telling, ain't no telling what, ain't no telling what Jack told Helen be crazy? You got you got you got role players shooting fifteen threes in the game, like you know what I mean, Like it's it's crazy, so don't get hot, you know what I mean. That's where it's really over. You might have dropped. You might have dropped eighty nine. I couldn't pull a cold, you know, it was one on one, but I could have. I think I could have got

like my prime in this era. I probably could have got like seventy five. I think, yeah, I think you could have touched seventies. Like you said, people could. People are shooting at abnormally a large number of three pointers, so I mean he touching back on the seventy five anniversary. Obviously they dropped the seventy five players. Um, you know, I really don't get too into that, you know, especially because to me, I think it's so hard to judge the older players based on the way the game has

transpired and transformed so much athletically and skill wise. But with all that said, there were some snubs T mac Um, Dwight Howard. Who are some other ones? Jack Kyrie, Kyrie, Yeah, Kyrie? Who were some of the did anyone stand out? I mean, I obviously Kyrie is Kyrie he's you know, super talented, definitely deserves to be on the list. But I was looking more at what Dwight Howard brought to the table here the first ten eleven years of his career and

how he was snubbed off it. Thoughts on Dwight, you know you battled against him a lot in the Eastern Conference. You've seen him at his best. Was he something he felt got snubbed? Absolutely? Dwight was superman man. Look at his body and work. He checks off the I test box and he checks off the body of work box. So it's it's actually a no brainer, you know what

I mean. Like it was one of the faces of the the league, and people forget the White had a McDonald's commercially with the bron Like, like, you know what I mean, liked White was putting in work for years and I think the past the past four or five years, people will start disrespecting him and not getting his full credit. It's full dude, if you look at it, it's undeniable.

How how he should be on that hit look at I think he was a leading vote getter and for the All Star Game with Lebron, Kobe, you name it. All these dudes is still in the league. De White with the leading vote getter in the All Star Game, So I definitely think he's someone who's overlooked and disrespected. I not to cut you off, mad, but I feel like the league the list of some bullshit because some

of them old players. I know, I know I would have bust some of them old players that as a whole bunch of them, and uh and then and then the two. You gotta think about it too, bro, some of these people that's on there. It was only eight teams in the league, so you're planning against the same dude, Like, you're planning the same dude over and over and over and over to get your stats. So if I had to play against Luke Walked my whole career, I prober

the average eighties. So you know what I'm saying. I look at stuff different team mcnaw and that teeth. Come on, man, that's all bullshit to me. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not really rolling with honestly, like and I have. I'm such a student of the game, and just like if you go back and look in time, you know what I mean, And just look at some of these people. If you put some of these people playing right now on that

time era with no disrespect. It wouldn't even be like and the game has just grown, It's evolved, and that's how I supposed to, you know what I mean? So we have to start looking at things besides that, just like eye test, what's your eyes tell? You know what I mean? Yeah? I think they because I didn't want to just I just started looking up some of the guy's names and I don't even want to mention their

names because I just had never heard of them. And I looked at what they did and their numbers and and and the way the game was played back then. I was like, there's no fucking with these guys wouldn't even make the NBA today, And you got him on the Greatest List. And I tweeted that too. Afterward. I said, we gotta start making our own You gotta stop letting people get creating people that have boats and say so that I haven't actually done it, like Pierce North. You

need to start a governing board. Fam We'll follow right along. We'll start making our own lists. Every time ESPN come out. I got time. Hey, uh a player who reminds me of yourself in this present day. Do you see anybody out there like young fam? Oh, that's some young go getters. I like. I love Caris LeVert obviously the John Murray's from home. He got some stuff that's similar Kevin Porter as well. Uh. Then you look at like Bones Highland, like that new energy coming in, he go get it,

you know what I mean. And then there's some people I see like that, like the younger one's coming up. I don't think there's one person like exactly, but I think some of those guys who you gotta see. Who do you see man? Oh man? I don't know. I wanted to talk about John Murray because I remember when we came to your wedding and we played that basketball game, and you would tell me about this a little dude that's kind of like me. It's still he was still

in high school. I wanta say, left grade, twelfth grade, right eleven grade or going into twelve. This little young nigga came in and killed I said, oh my god, Oh, I mean all I mean, majority of us were high and drunk, So it was to me it was just fun to watch him do what he does. Because this dude wanted to start the game. What time was like

eleven o'clock, twelve o'clock at night, Jack the gym. Jack the gym was fucking rocking, eight thousand people in there, and I'm like, you know me, I'm I'm going to a wedding, so I'm already in vacation most so I'm blow drunk everything. We gotta play the glass like, oh, we're really playing that ship? Was man, you already know that. You know I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do. I just you know, just mindus the alcohol. That's how

he played in the league cause I wasn't really tripping. No, absolutely, it was crazy to watch and knowing he knowing he was special. Even after that performance, Matt where everybody's talking about him, everything's going viral. He wasn't one of the ones on Twitter like yeah I did that ship he was. He didn't like nothing, he didn't favorite nothing, just another day and he kept working. Yeah. I like that point

grind to grind. Uh. This new NBA and the rules, Um, I think you were someone who, if you know, I found not mistaken. You lead the league and four point plays right, So I really feel like on a different level, with all due respect to how great James harden was. I think this new rule is because of him. I think he mastered that manipulation of arms and contacted everything so much that they had to do something, and that

I think everyone else kind of started following along. What are your thoughts on them not calling that kind of stuff no more and these guys not really getting to the line as much. Draymond Treated tweeted something the other day he loves just to flow in the pace of the game. A lot of people are fans of just letting these guys play more. I love this ship, and I tweeted, and I'm gonna score you guys know I'd rather do offense and give me offense twice. I'll sit

down here, give me offense, give I love. And I love this rule like I love it. I absolutely love it because it took out the defender. Like I hated team saying, oh, we need a defender, and it's like Jackie's crazy, we need a tea, say we need a defender, and you can't play on these things you can't touch, right. I mean so now, like the area we grew up in. I hate to sign the old guy in the room, but the area we grew up in you had Ai and those guys they were getting fouls. You couldn't. It

wasn't like you know what I mean. So it was like they showed their skill boards, like, okay, some of these some of these fouls guys have been getting over the years. It will start a fight if we're opened, Jim, Like, come on, that's some bullshit, you know what I mean. Like, so now we're getting back to it. I'm loving seeing the double overtime games. You went on six, you know what I mean? Like, I love that ship. Yeah, this

nigga said give me offense twice twice. Yeah, you were someone that could score in a variety of different ways. Get hot with the hottest of them. Uh. I want to have just like a little open conversation right now with some of the top guards in the league. John Moran, Luca LaMelo, Trey steph Uh, talk to me about that group of young talent right there, and not young steps a little older, but that group of talent right there. I love it. I love it because I'm thinking of

the energy of young guards. This remind me with like Bead and Steve Francis, like the then young guards that come with that new energy a new way of playing. I love all them guys, you said, because they're all a little bit different, you know what I mean. Jobs doing his thing where he's kind of like a mix of meats, like a young Rose and young CP, you

know what I mean. Luca got a little bit of b roy and with how cool and smooth he plays at the time, right, Yeah, And so Tray Tray Young is doing some ship where it's like damn, like you're shooting from there. He's like a young stuff, right, So they all come with a different energy, but that it's all needed. It's all at the same time. And truth be told, they're keeping each other sharp because they're all

paying attention who's doing right. It's that young energy. And I'm loving thoughto I love LaMelo, love his He doesn't play with an agenda, you know what I mean, Like he doesn't play. He's not the guys like all playing just to get in assist. I'm watching them play. He's always head up early here. You can you can make the play like his. Trust his his style of players contagious. He's somebody you want to play with, you know what I I mean. He brings that that youth to him. He

brings that energy to him. He's not faced by pressure. I just love watching him. He's a He's a great young player for sure. If they added a comeback Player of the Year award, um, who would have won the last season? I know Katie came back from Achilles and dominated last year. Was the player that we all thought that he would be. Um, your thoughts are to his two questions starts on Katie and the evolution of the nets and then who would have who would be your

comeback player to year? Well, I think that question is rolled it one because Katie made a chat to look like an angler screening later. He was just unbelievable. He was unbelievable like Jack, he was better than that. Like he was so sharp, he was so sharp, he was so crisp, And I think it gave him time to climb another mountain in a different way. Like I think that's part of the reason why he left Golden State, Like, yeah, we can go the finals, we can win it, but

I need a new challenge. And when you're that great, you're always looking for challenges, the same reason why MJ may have left and came back, you know what I mean. So I think Katie, I think they do need to bring back comeback player of the Year, and Katie would have wanted it going away because he's better than he's ever been. Whatever he say, he lost his uh you know a miller step your stuff, just progression of that injury he shot through that He's sharper, he shoots better.

He he's so unselfish like and you guys both know him and playing with him, it's like he's he's something different. He's been the best in the world to me for a while, agreed. I think what you said at the end, he's been and and and when we say that, it's not a disrespect to Lebron or what Lebron. Lebron has done and what he's continuing to do. But just as far as one player, the best player, I think Katie has been the best player in the league for a

minute now for sure. And and like you said, all respects with I got Lebron is one of the very best ever, just like I got killed. But Lebron is high, high on it. So yeah, no disrespect to Lebron or no other players. Just Kevin. What I'm looking at my eyes a lins right, they definitely not well will we ever see will we ever see another team back in Seattle, Yes,

we absolutely will. I got word a few years ago the hockey team was coming before they came, and they told me that was part of the one two steps to kind of kind of get things in motions. So the hockey team is here, is is thriving, is getting seventeen eighteen thousand people every single night. I think the NBA will follow. I mean, Seattle such a beautiful city. I mean we was talking about Jack's family restaurant out there, and just the energy out there in Seattle is incredible.

Everything it's incredible. You guys remember that trip when we when we when we came to the league. It was you hit Portland, Seattle and cool like that whole that whole strip. Yeah, that whole strip. Yeah, for sure, different times, the good old days, the good old days. If you were to start a franchise in Seattle again with one young one of the younger players, I would probably say four years and under. Who would you start that Seattle

franchise with. I think I'll started with Job. I think I'll started with Job just just because his maturity level. Remember when the bubble happened, and you know, people had certain complaints about this or that he was one of the young ones, like, I have no excuses. The food is good, I have somewhere to sleep, I'm good, I'm ready to go. And you could just tell the way he was raised and his maturity is far beyond just basketball and how you listed things. You can tell his

father has been president. Everybody there has been doing a great job with him, so he can handle that kind of responsibility. Be in the face of franchise of the new place. I think he'll put people in the seats. But I think he's maturity level of vets who want to play with him too, so I would put him in there like that dark horse. This season, Chicago Bulls

is gonna make noises. I said it before the season starting. Yeah, I don't think they'll I think they can win a playoff series now, you know, after not going for so long. I think the margin Rosen gives them stability. He stabilizes them. He can, you know, be on that wing with Zach but also kind of teach him why he's there. I will. I think they'll make a run. I think Billy Donovand

has the hell of the offense. I like Lonzo with them, so I think they'll be right there and making a winning a series and play Yeah, I picked uh, I mean obviously not knowing what they're gonna do as far as they were gonna go. But I picked Phoenix last year as my surprise team, and I feel like this is gonna Like I said, I agree, I think they can get to the playoffs. I think they can win a series. I think they could definitely get to the second round and compete in the second round. So this

is my surprise team and the year. I agree with you, Jack, finish it out going. Who would end up at the top of the East and the West? He's person If Kyrie is playing basketball by time of the season, and the Nets will not only be at the top of the East, they will win the championship, no doubt about if they If he does not, if he does not come back, then I got mil walking from out the EGI West the Lakers. I think the Lakers are built for the playoffs. I think they're built when the game

slows down. They have the the i Q, and Lebron is gonna find a way to make sure the competitive mellow states hot like he will and does what he does. He's the key for them because he's the one person that he's the one person that can play with everybody because it's catching shoe game and so lethal right now, you know, I think that he'll they'll be there in the end games if Kyrie playing Kyrie is playing five.

I still think it's see the thing about the thing about as he's so dynamic, he's so like he he's the one that can get your your your crowd with you, the other crowd, which you your your team, which he gives a whole different energy when he's going. His two points is so loud that it gets everybody excitement. Now you're like, okay, the things just start moving like that. Especially when James said, okay, I'll be the point guard. I'm gonna get you going. I'mnna get you in care

of all. That was the game changer right there. James became a supersized okay see virgin when he used to make players like you know what I mean? So that was that was the thing that was a lot of people forget. Before James got hurt last season, he was one of attention for m v P because he was averaging the triple double. Yeah, which is crazy. He's been what I think three of the last three the last five years, he's finished the top three m V people,

which is crazy. Yeah, he's always been there, but his his basketball intelligence is what I think he's underrated about him. Well, thank you Jamal for closing out this episode of What's Burning with Us and What's Dope Is? You're about to jump right on all the smoke with us too? Just ready, two for one, double trumping. Yeah, yeah, let's get it

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