2 Chainz | Ep 122 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball

he's nicer than me. And basketball always have been, uh for some reason, and that's always been the problem. But my dog, you know what I'm saying, My dog, dog, Dog dog. You know what I'm saying with you say at Steve Jack about the pack to change in the building. Yes, appreciate your time, Bro. What's up? Man? Uh? Go ahead, Jack? Start the show off? Who's gonna start with this? First off? You see a video Chick going ham and Michael Jackson or what you was thinking? What's going on through your

mind when you're looking at it? I mean she was having it. She was obviously having a good time. I was at the house game with one of my homeboys because my kids can come, my wife can come. So I took one of my partners, um, and she had been asking him, um, you know, you know, to take pictures with me. So I eventually took pictures with her. And then you know, they always have something going on during time out, so half time to keep the fans, you know, motivated, and she was just really going in.

So you know, I'm not a part of the viral era or stuff for that of virus. Like I guess I'm starting to learn what what viral is because I work. I woke up to it being on many blogs inside, so it was just it was a real organic You just dropped the million dogs worth the Game single. What's coming up after that? Million dolls worth a Game as a single coming off my album called Dope Don't Sell Itself. I'm dropping another video in the next week or so.

It's called pop Music featuring um Beat, King and money Bag. And then I shot a video last night to the song I have called Kingpin Ghostwriter featuring Little Baby. And the idea behind that is how you always got those like you know, you got very influential people in your neighborhood who don't wrap, who be just like sometimes you

learn stuff from and you get ideas from. For me, it was people that were that, you know, hustle and we're like king pins and man, they would just say a little slick lines and you know, they would stay with me forever. So it just was a situation where I tiled the song keeping ghost writer because like, if you hung around hustas, you picked up some of that stuff. You know, I definitely did. Ain't that slick to it?

Can all I'm telling College Park, Atlanta, Georgia, talk to us about your upbringing to some of the ups and downs of you growing up. Well, we all had ups and downs. Man. I realized that, you know, it's it's called life. That's what life is. You're gonna have like a winning streak, and then you're gonna feel like you like cursed. You're gonna feel like you can't do nothing right, and then it's gonna be like this little yellow area or the middle area of life where it's either like

you know, it's some good and some bad. I remember when we were in this stuff is just popping up and we were trapping. Me and my my brother Dollar, who was in players. So we used to be trapping together, right it was just like this might be ninth grade, Tim Craig. We used to be walking to these apartments and I wore a jury back then, right, look little tracks and stuff, and um, you know, Dolly used to

be saying, bro, you're gonna get us in trouble. You donna get us bust you keep wearing these chains to these people houses like he used to be like, you know what I'm saying, get on me, you know about being that type of hustler. And then you know, over time, you know, I grew or started moving a little bit differently. But you know, for the most part, man, I had I had real patterns in my life where I just

couldn't It felt like I couldn't do nothing right. It felt like I just had something kind of you know how they said in the country, like a some kind of juji on me. Then I then I have, you know, years to where it seemed like I can't do nothing wrong. And you know, coming up in College Park early on with some of the years, I felt like I couldn't do some things right. I was trying to, um, you know, bring my basketball thing and fruition, but I didn't put

time and effort. I think for me, I was blessed with a talent, like God gave me a certain talent. But when God gives you a talent and you work on the talent, I think that makes you a superstar. That says you're apart from everybody else. I was just someone that was naturally tall, um, and I was coordinated. So I just I never looked like I wasn't a part. I could really do anything. But I can honestly say that if it wasn't mandatory that i'd be at practice

sometimes I would be trapping. I wouldn't be be doing that. So deep down in my heart, and I can tell other people that want to do something, deep down in my heart, I knew I wasn't going to the NBA.

I just didn't know any other answer to say when the teacher asked me what I wanted to be to grow up, because I knew I wasn't gonna never dry like getting traffic and go to work at eight or nine in the morning and come home and be a nine if I like, I knew that wasn't you know, in my in my in my cards, I knew I wasn't gonna never get a job, so um, you know, early on. I had some run ins with the law. I got, you know, I got jammed up my sophomore year for a possession of cocaine charge and I got

locked up, you know in my high school. UM. At this time, I wasn't even getting I wasn't even getting letters from colleges or anything. I just was just like a well known person in the community. And then I

come back to school. I do good. My eleventh grade year, I go to some individual camps, UM, and then I started getting mail, and then I, uh, I get it inconcentrated my twelfth grade year, like right before I took my S A T S. And this was some of the stuff I talked about about, Like this seemed like I couldn't do nothing right because I was I never made a sea in high school, and I didn't take the s A T uh Well. I felt like I

only needed to take it one time. I didn't have to like do these practice tests that they used to require or ask people to do, because had um well test taking skills. But I got locked up on a Friday and Mr s A T that was coming up on a Saturday, and that kind of changed my whole life to where I am now, which is the reason why I can say that if you live long enough and stay out of jail, out of prison, and God could just have so many things for you, you know

what I'm saying. And I even got a partner whose son got locked up in college and got out, and I just was like, man, you know, I know it sounds like some bullshit, but just like it happened to me too, like even before college, and like look at me now. It makes me a super It makes me like a better person, a better family man. I don't I don't get upset about the little things. I don't want to jeopardize my freedom for anything, because I did at such a young age that I you know, I

see the police and I'm not scared of him. I just decided just to go the other way. I just decided just to like, you know, I'm not really into breaking the law no more. I'll have no need to. So um, that's kind of like my pattern. I had some ups and downs, which we all do, you know what I'm saying, And most people don't care. Some of your close ones you do, but most people don't care. Is just like how you end up. That's like the

receipt you get from your problem. You know what I'm saying, You're type it in and then your receipt your read out. It's just like how you are, your characteristics. You know what I'm saying. We grew up, you became a man that you are with people. People relate you to being like a solid person, like a real brotherhood type of person. That's show. That's show characteristics. They know. Like, man, people know Jake, like if you're a friend, if they're you're

a friend of them. Man, you'll do anything but them people. Man, whether you got like people know that. I'm sure Mad can say that. I can say that. So and you know, we saw some patterns. All of us had some patterns. Bro and now we're just like no better, you know what I'm saying. So despite all that, you ended up going to Alabama State scholarship. Who care for a couple of years, what was college basketball life for you? Let me see? Okay, so this is another thing that's this

is another era in my life. This is crazy, right, So I uh, you know it's coach cars from you know, Alabama State black coach. Oh my god, coach Oliver. He's passed away now. But it was him, a couple of the coaches, I think all of them was the head coach, but like an assistant coach called me, and I already had some friends that went to Alabama State because it was probably like two hours away from Atlanta, was like a straight shot, you know what I'm saying. And I

have friends down there. And so this guy calls me. He says, um um, you know, um Taiheed, this is coach from such and such a you know I heard about you know what happened. You know, I want to offer you a full ride, you know, scholarship. Would you like to come and visit the school? And so I was like, you know, I mean, yeah, you know, I have anything to lose, I come visiting. You know, at this time, they in the swack, which is still d One,

you know what I'm saying. So I'm like learning about my d ones and just really trying to because it's it's it almost was kind of a pride issue, but it really, you know, wasn't but it was kind of a pride issue. And I go to campus. I see all these beautiful black people. I see the huge like acadon where they're just like it wasn't like what I

was thinking, like a small gym or nothing. They heard really had like thirteen thousand seas and then you know, and showed me these new dorms and I was like, Yo, this is not bad, you know what I'm saying. And I took him up on an opportunity to him, Bro, as soon as I get down there, this is no cap As soon as I get down there, man, I may be practiced for these guys. Maybe one time they

get fired. And then they bring in some new coach that brought in five players with him, and I can literally remember my mind this coach walking in um and he's probably still alive right now. And uh, I remember him walking in with like five players, a couple of which I'm still cool, and I remember just my whole, my demeanor. I just remember me not even feeling the same about basketball no more, because even at this time, I knew that if a guy brought somebody with with him,

he was locked in. Yeah, And then it was like his I mean like he walked in, it was like other people with him. I'm like, he's not coaches, you know what I'm saying. And so I come from an area where I've been playing basketball since I was seven years old, start and doing my thing. And then I come down here and I got friends at the game talking about put me in, and I'm just not even feeling that because I'm I'm nice. Yeah, I'm on the

second team in practice and I'm doing stuff. But and then, so I've been in two different situations in high school. I kind of went through this a little bit. But I can honestly say I wasn't ready to start varsity in the temb grade because it was like a legit couple people. But it was a situation where this kind of coach kind of took seniority over skill set sometimes if you've ever been in there, like he's been here longer than you or I've been. It was almost like that.

So yeah, it kind of started like, because I'm being practiced, I might you know, dunk on whoever this person is supposed to be and then practice the next you know, the game nything, I might not, like, you know, even have to take a shower out of the game because I ain't even only then I'm just woman up. So I just was not fucking with that anymore. My my energy started just like not being about the game Honestly, bro, I just want to play at murals, you know what

I'm saying. They'd be balling it be guys that could play in the you know, college out like man, I kind of want to just do some other ship. I want to get out of this. And I was naturally smart, and even though I had a scholarship, I knew I could get through school. So um, I lost the love for it. And I even was, I still wasn't the trap right there because I was still full time hustling. I still was moving bags and all of that. But I didn't have that love like hooping anymore after that scenario.

Tell me how you and Jack cross pass. Jack played for the Hawks. Old Jack played for the Hawks. Man Jake played for the Atlanta Hawks. I've always been I'm from Atlantis, so I've always been a Elanta Hawks fan.

I've always been a Lakers fan because my daddy, Um, I thought Magic Johnson was the best point guard ever because he was six nine all the time when everybody was like a small guard, you know, and just be at a six nine point guard, which he just you know, kind of wanted for me, you know what I'm saying, be tall, but so I've always been a Lakers fan talking about um, you know, the Van Exel. I can go from then before Kobe. I want people think it's because Lebron is my friend that I'm a Lakers fan.

I can go, I want to go. I can go back, Eddie, I can go back. I mean when Kobe missed two or three threes in a row, you know what I'm saying, Well, he as a young cat getting in and just pushing through that. So those are my two teams, the Hawks and then Jack was just somebody that was very transparent, somebody that was super relatable. Um, some of these and that's what Lebron is to our code. She's so relatable. Man. You know, he's in the fact of his made back

playing out music. You know, like, man, you know Jordan is the is the goal, but he you know, this type of thing like that. Yeah, So it's just a different thing. Like when you came came through the city, we could see you, we can touch you out. You know what I'm saying. He wasn't too good, you know, oh three, I was hustling, but I wasn't rich. You know, bited me over. So we built up. Man, if it's been a three man. It's almost you know, twenty years.

You know, it's crazy. He helped me down the whole time, talk about you know what it meant for you and and and starting your other friendship and maintaining it for so long. I mean, it's that's solid man. I mean, it's not too many people that that you come across, that you meet, you know, on your journey. You know what I mean, That that that you want to see when you know what I'm saying. I was, I remember being in the clubs, you know, and it's still clubs

with two when he premium songs. You know what I'm saying back then. So what I'm saying from duffer Back boys on you know all you made myself told him because I was an honorary duffer Back boy. I was with the nigga so much, you know what I mean, shout out the cabin. But uh, that's just my brother man. Like I said, you don't you beat a lot of people, but you don't. You don't become brothers with a lot of people. You know what I'm saying. You say, what's up?

That's my dog? I love you, bro, But like it's dere for with me and him, you know what I'm saying, Like it was very few people in my wed, you know what I'm saying. He took a time about this big schedule a kind of my wed. And so that tells you the relationship between man. Where did the love for music come from? Who did you adalyize growing up?

Did it run in the family? All right? My daddy used to look, he was somebody that kept the radio on all you know, all night, one of those people that kind of kept the clock radio on just all night and he had, you know, thousands of vinyls and you know, play the type of music. But honestly, I think music. I mean, you had to come to me

like some kind of way. But I used to I was a kid that was in the like in the trap and I was a kid in the back of the school bus that just freestyle when people with beat box of knock on something. Um. When I was in this little car wash um, I used to be trappling in these older guys. UM used to come up and they and they were like really trying to like joke

me a little bit. They'd be like, yo, yo six nine yo, get your your you'll come up with him, you know, bust some freestyles like you know what I'm saying and like no, I just walking around. Then one of the guys said, man, you need to come to the studio one day. Man, you need to record you know, some of this stuff. And you know, Miken honestly say, this was the very um late nineties, early two thousands, and I haven't you know, I haven't. I've never written

a song. Everything has just been just straight off the top, and uh, they kind of steering me into this direction. And one of the first, maybe the second songs I recorded I have. I had got a lot of a lot of good feedback from just like people who didn't expect me to produced this kind of material, really good feedback, like genuine like bro, it's pretty good, damn you know.

And I remember saying like, man, I think I'm gonna do this, Like it wasn't hard for me to be like I think this is And so the dream started becoming something that was real for me. Play a circle, shout out Dollars, my partner. I met Dollar, Do you how did that come about? Me and Dollars stayed in the same apartment as we tried in the same apartments. When I left, I really like people don't know this. I'm really like from Decata up to eighth grade. I

left Decatur in the eighth grade. I want to really my nine grade year and I moved to College Park and I was my mom was staying in College partment and her weren't staying together. I was staying with my cousins Indicator and like me and like me and Gucci stayed down the street from each other, men walk and and a couple of other people. So I was Indicator and uh, staying with my cousin just trapping like these

little fifty dollar slabs. And then my mom was staying on the street called Riverdale Road, and at the time, it just sounded like it was a bunch of white people on that street to me, you know what I'm saying, Riverdale Road, and it was like a one bedroom apartment, and my cousin was working. She was working at like I placed it. So something dealing with with with electronics

or something. Shoe be going our time, so I'll be in the house, you know, trapping, you know what I'm saying, you know, fucking just doing everything I wanted to do. And then eventually, uh, you know, my time there had kind of expired, so I had to go live with my mom. And when I left. When I went to stay with my mom, I met you know, go, you know, I met Dollar, met Hard. I started just meeting everybody, and I started realizing, like, Yo, these some cool niggas

on the South Side. I'm like, they just like what we owned and they do the same thing we do. And we just became super close. You know, we all know each other's you know, family, um, and that relationship has now been you know, probably thirty years for us, but me and Dollar been for instance, the day we met, and we've we've done everything from A to Z that I go to that's my dog. After releasing your first independent album, United We Stand, United We Fall, how did

you ender meet luc Ludicrous? How did that come about? So that was the project that the old like some o gs put this project together, and that was I had that song on that I told you about. I can started getting feedback on and and one of the people that gave me feedback was Ludicrous, you know what

I'm saying. And this he wasn't like Luda at the time, but he was working on the radio and he like New Scarface and he just like told me it was good, and these these other guys that was hustling, they put this project together like maybe twist song, so it's kind

of like a compilation. But I had one solo song and then me and Dollar had a song, and like Dollar was like literally at this time, he was probably made like five years ahead of me as far as just being an artist, like lyrical ability, being able to paint pictures, flow, just everything, you know what I'm saying. I just was not there yet, you know what I'm saying. And he was more like, um, I think the focus for the O G s at the time, and then he ended up getting locked up, Dolly getting locked up.

So I end up trying to make myself the focus. And I'm not sure if they saw it at the time the vision of the time, because they was kind of like, wait, you know Dollar, which was just something you had to I had to respect at the time, but that compilation end up. Um had little faith on there, who is best friends with Luda, you know what I'm saying, And he took it a little to a loud. It

was like, y'all put this together by yourself. And this is around the time that everybody's trying to be independent and shop stuff. And it was just something that I grew off of that really locked down my notion of me being artists just because of just you know, the the featback that got that I got from it disturbing the piece. Mm hmmm, talk about that the starting the piece.

I end up I end up signing with Ludicrous after this company all this right here, I end up signing with Loudle got my voice, set up my first bank account. How Ever, I was shoebox Tony go Um. You know I learned, I actually learned to learn. I learned a lot from from loudon and being under Disturbingtive Peace. I think that was like it was good. It was good for me to go through that. Man, A lot of young artists have a lot to learn before they're getting again.

It's just more than a song, you know what I'm saying. This is really a personality based kind of feel Man. You got no ide drips talk to people from do do what we're doing? Um, I know how to entertain. You got a lot of do shows. It's just a whole lot of things, and so being around them, I learned a lot of this stuff. I learned how to talk on the radio. I learned how to I learned how to learn, you know, and uh, it was it was.

It was a brief error, but even in that era, I felt like I was bigger than the situation I was in. No, you definitely you definitely what you definitely thought that, Like, no, you were like trust me, yeah, no, trust me, bro you say like that, No, this is big Tony today Tony, but he was in his mind and now he dressed all that, it was still that. It was still all that. Yeah, it was always been that. It always been that the whole time, even before the

music pop like that. It was always it was still that. Now I'm still that respect that's what. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to no ten your challenge twenty I was riding for in twenties. Yeah, them like, yeah, I still got my shop. I'm a hoarder. You still got the BMW No not that, and I still got the poort that we go back to had I had so my my my friends were so shy. I guess you can call them friends, right, they shysty. I had a black

BMW seven four or five. And then I started getting some money and I was like, you know they made seven fifties. Now this around the Being of Time era where like you know, meet them my switching cars and they just ruying thirty lambos at once, and I'm just like, man, these are nice men. Him together, we're going to club, that's what we're seeing. Yeah, I'm not going to pick this out. So I'm like, man, I'm going to get

a new car. I go to the lot and I'm like, man, I think I'm had to get another black one because if they if I get a different color, they're gonna know this a new car. And I'm from an era with there your friends are robbed you and then like help you look for the robiga that I saw some niggas. I saw the car thieves in my neighborhood one time, and my neighbor k Not said, they're trying to steal

your car. Come outside and the car thieves was coming up my apartments and hit the speedbump and they turn on me. What's going on? What's going on? I said, Man, somebody trying to steal my car. They're like, well, I'm like I'm looking at them. I'm like ship man, and so I'm from that era. So I literally had to beamers for like a period of time. That was like I had one beam I had it brand new when there was like twenty extra. You know, my friends would

look at say it looks different. Did you get new rams or something. I'm like, yeah, it's new rooms. It's new rooms. But it's just it's crazy. Who I saw Peewee last night, you know what I mean? You know he could talk, and I say, he said, you ain't gonna he telling them? He telling the people. He went like, how we was on the south side. Come on, he was around, so he got to tell when we were around. Yet him around. I was working with you and going

state like was seven out there? Yeah he moved. So he said some ship last night, Like, uh, man, you always knew, you know, you always had your business. My member used to come to the Gamblet house and now something. To be honest, you were so you were so nosy, I said, when I was just dropping them bags off, I go back in the biouns in front of you just to throw you off because I knew you talked too much. I said, that's crazy. But but man, it's just like man, come from where we come from. It's

like people smile. You could mean these your brothers. But if people get down and out, man, they'll tie you up. Your brother you mentioned meet You know Jack had a story about Beach but being from there in that era, what was that now? Seeing do you have you have your chance to see the show? Oh yeah, thoughts on the show and how fit he put that together and a little meat and the job he's doing. Yeah, I think little Mes doing that crub but superstar, you know,

shout out a little miets Yeah. Um, I speak to meach often. I speak to the sister often. Um. You know, it's a part of the show that I didn't know him at You know what I'm saying, it's early in their life, right, you know, I mean I just normally. I remember when they came into one twelve, two hundred deep Magic City, yeah, with you know, black bandannas, and when we didn't even when you one twelve used to

have to wear like at least Timberland boot. You couldn't wear like, you know, dickies and shorts, and them niggers came in there at one time, and it seem like they wasn't gonna never stop coming in it. I haven't even never seen two hundred of people hanging together people, yeah, every every weekend. And then you know it was some errors, but it was it was some It was good to be a part of if you were able to you know, see it. It It was very um you know I used

this right here. Man, You either influence I mean you either inspired by something of your hater one of the other. Yeah, ain't know a great area, you know, so you see something you like, you'd be like, that's nice, man, I like that. Oh you say some haying ship ain't no great. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. So for me, when I see something, man, it inspires me to want to work, you know, like I want a bigger house in Cali. I want I want some

more stuff. I'm not content. So the only way I know how to get this stuff is to work for us. So I'm just staying up all night. I'm kind of fatigued now. I came here with an energy drink because I was up all night trying to get what I want. You know what I'm saying. So Yeah. Supplied to band Oh seven Drops deffel Back Boys take the World by Storm featuring Little Wayne. How bad uh? That song come together. I've been I was friends with a little one very.

I've actually met Baby actually met b G first, which is crazy free b G. I met b G first. He was in Atlanta and then I was in UH. I was in Patchwork. So at this time, I was using my little hustle money to get studio time in a building where I thought on artists would be at. You know what I'm saying. I just wanted to be in the same building. It's real artists, so you know

what I'm saying. At this time, I booked me some studio time at Patchwork and they told me Baby from cash Money needed some weed, you know what I'm saying. In the eight room or so. I was in the be room. So I um, I go see him, you know what I'm saying. And they looked, you know, like they looked on TV largs and their life and I, you know, like I served them. You know what I'm saying. But this is crazy. I don't even know if you

remembers this. Like he asked me to take them to the mall, like showing the local I wrote them to

the mall. He had like you know, people with them, and they all would like getting dressed in the store, like leaving the clothes they had there at the store getting dressed, and I was just in the corner like one of them like you're gonna you know what I'm saying, You're gonna get something, and I was like, you know no, I was just kind of chilling out, like I couldn't remember my dad really buying me nothing at this particular time.

And it was like, you know, baby, like say, Slam, you ain't gonna get nothing, Like yeah, I guess, I mean, I guess. You know, he's a little timla. I got like a little outfit and I was like, damn it bought me something, you know what I'm saying. So he still hadn't paid me for the the week, you know what I'm saying. So they was like going to New Orleans and I was like I didn't know how to really I knew how to ask him, but I don't

really know how to ask him. Like about my little it was it was like full fifth at the time, you know what I'm saying. Needed He's like, yeah, yeah, Slim, you want to go to the world. In my head, I'm like about this weed, I guess I am. Now I go to fucking New Orleans. They got this before Katrina. They got matches, they got a mansion for the crew that he gotta imagine, you know, boom so Tom got some kind of fast as poor she write down. They're

like that boy, you know they're talking about him. That's shorty. So he end coming to the mansion and we built a rapport off of that, you know what I'm saying, because he was like the only cash money artist left. Everybody else was gone, and they was trying to revamp and do something else. And you know, I figure out like I'm like, I got good weed. I'm down here, you know, you know, I mean, I'm just built off that. And he threw my name in a song like so

long ago. I was like sitting in the line and hurt my name in the song, like man, this nig cool as hell, you know what I'm saying, And every sinse then we just so he just really been there for each you know, that's very similar too. He's a little bit more different, but no, I mean he know he ain't. But yeah, I mean after going everything you've been through, the grinds you've been through, what was it like really starting to hear your ship on the radio all the time. Did you feel like you had made

it at that point? I still don't think I made I love that, and that's crazy, man. I still be yearning. I'm still passionate. I still want to, you know, feel out, stay from the rain. I still want to, still won't. I ain't lying, chick, And I'm in a position to do other things. Man, I'd be knowing. I'd be talking to people to be talking about it. I'm thirty six million years. They ain't got nothing to do with music,

and I'll be like, what damned? Maybe you just need to get up and put a suit on in the morning. But I still love this right here. I do. But I'm in a position. I'm in a circle now with man people, investors, investments, you know what I'm saying. And it looked like it would shot me away from there. But I truly love what I truly love what I do. Did you ever get your money from him? Well, that's it, Yeah I did, damn little bit. I asked him about it, Like damn. I can tell you how long ago it was,

bro y'all. Remember when they had the the this is the Funnies Ship of the World. Remember the Cadillac was then e X T or something. Yeah, I got one paint of red and then he got like archy seats or something in the right, and so he came in say, slam go check out the swine. You know, he's talking about swine on my seats all this. I'm like, damn, it's nice. What is mom? But I end up getting that in there. Uh, And you know, he ended up

being like Slick a mentor for some time. Man, baby got plenty of wisdom, you know, And I'm just you know, everything just happened for a reason. But it's some stuff I can look back on and just tell. I could tell somebody, man, you ain't been through it, for real, you ain't did this. You ain't have to go through this. Change your name. The two chains how they came about, I don't know. I was doing a mixtape with Bigger Ranking and he was I was, you know, I'm saying

two chains all in my song. Man, this is just really something that God really totally took control of because you know, during and that's why I looked at the disturbing. The peace era was like a little trial period because when I you know, titty Boy was a name from the streets. Tip my mom do call me that. So when it was trying to wrap, I couldn't think of like mc fucking whatever the funk everybody was. I can't

even thinking that. I just was like Tip, But I'm not realizing when I go tell people my name is Tito Titty, but they're like, oh, you know, they just like like a book cover that they're just not sucking with. They're just not even trying to open the book. The outside of it so fucked up, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know the too change. Man, I literally got a pitch in the eighth grade with me wearing

two necklaces on, Like it's not photoshop. I literally have been this kid that used to hustle and go to the fleet market and by jury. My uncle rest in Peace, who just died last year. Man, this thought he thought he was them to miss the t That's how many gold chains and diamonds he used to wear, you know what I'm saying, nugget rings. And I just have been intrigued by jury since I could think of it. And I don't know what a two change came from. I

don't know what dad happened. I don't know anything, but when it happened, man, my life changed. Crazy. You released a mix tape Tied the Tru True Religion, which became your first mix tape to peer high on the music charts. What was your decision to release that rather than the studio album the mixtape that a regular album. What this time I was going solo. I was still trying to create a buzz in the streets. You know what I'm saying. That was away at the time. Yeah, that was the

way that was to move, you know how mixtapes. It was my gangster grills too. I hadn't done against the grills, and I was using that really to get hot. I was telling folks, I'm the hottest nigg in the city without a gangster career. Let drumming them know what. I'm letting people know it, you know what I'm saying. Just like now, I feel like I've done a lot of things in the industry without some of the cheat sheets

have been they have been used in the industry. Now I have used some cheat sheets obviously, Like I feel like if anybody do a song with Drake is gonna help your career. Kanye is gonna help your career. So a couple of people. But it's a couple man, you know, industry cheat she said, I just ain't had a chance to use just got through it. But truely, and that was just the thing to do at the time. I was hot with him. Yeah, absolutely, and I end up doing um you know, at this time. It created so

much leverage when I went into these offices. When I went into these labels, I didn't have to do a three sixty deal. I didn't have to you know, I damn that had a Ricky Williams football contract. Every touchdown I was getting a bonus. You know what I'm saying. I just set up some my own weight of my own my own contract due to the leverage from from the True Religion mixtape. Talk to about us about true Life with Drake. He said he was one of the cheat sheets and how big that was. It was life

different after that. Yeah, my life was yeah, my levelage, So yeah, I met I met Drake on tour Wayne like maybe oh eight like before you know a lot of it, well for a lot of us, you don knew who he was or whatever. So I met him then and we you know, just been been cool. And I remember seeing him at an All Star game, maybe around or something like this. And I had a studio bus and I told him I had some from and I sent it to him, which I didn't though, and

he was like, sent him, like damn okay. So then I went to my bus and I used to do this, Man, this is no lie. Man, I used to do this. I used to be like man, and I'm not God, and this makes sense, I hope, don't nobody take this wrong. But I used to really pick out beasts like man who deserved this blessing. You know what I'm saying. I swear I used to be like that. And at the time, I just it was Mike wheel Man. He just worked ethic,

was like through the roof. And I put up this Mike wheel beat in the head, like a little part of the beat where I was like, man, I just feel like trail, just you have a melody right here, and it's just like man. So I did a verse and I sent it to him, and you know, the

rest is just history versus history. And that was my first plaque, and it was Mike Will's first plaque of many since then, you know, from the door two thousand seventeen you receive your your first Grammy for Best Rap Performance, uh On a chance on No Problem featuring Wayne Um after being nominated a handful of the time. So it was it like to get your first one. Didn't you perform that on Ellen too? Yeah? It was it was It was a It was a It was a blessing. Man.

I always wanted to. I know, people don't really care about don't I do. I mean, albums come from where I come from. I ain't never think I would get my still and you know what, I still want one on my own, you know, like one of my records they have people on it. But you know, this was a chance record, and this is another scenario like where I had, you know, kind of put the record together, like he wanted tune on the song, you know what I'm saying. And I just was like he loved a

rap here in the studio every night. So I usually call Way and it's some footage somewhere where I'm letting him know we gotta gram me somewhere skating at the Wars. Happy is here, like, well, what's going on? Like we won? And he don't even know what he on the ramp somewhere. But if you're talking about the ashes blunting this grammar. But yeah, man, it felt it felt good if if it was good to do that. August he did the verses with Wick Ross. How did that come about it?

When was it? Like? It was cool? Man? I had originally asked I had where I said meet Meal. At first I said Meat, let's do it versus and then either Swizz somebodw like maybe meet somebody would like, no, We're not gonna do it, because it was you know, when it first started off, you just wanted to get get on there, and that was different. Like if I do it again now, I think it would be more performance,

it would be more personality. At this time, it was like a respect thing and it still is a respect thing, you know what I'm saying. And so somebody called me about Ross and I was like, man, let's do Ross. Man. Me and him have been partnered since the white beam of days, you know what I'm saying, and uh, because he's literally stay on the south side, you know what I'm saying, used to stay on the south side or

whatever I still does. And so when I came about it was was definitely in the middle of like when COVID was like super uppredictable. Everybody backstage. It was very limited, but everybody backstage maxed up um um. Some of the things that you know staying that was you know, you know, the strippers for me, him getting the massage. It still has a little still had his and stuff going on,

but you know it was cool. Man. Ross is a really dope artists as Meek mil you know what I'm saying, and as myself, and I think people know, but I still be like thinking people don't know. You know how many plaques that are just like every time that I've dropped, Man, I've been blessed enough to bring home a plaque, man, And that means I have some real hardcore fans and I just have um something that the people want. I want to seek for a long period of time. I

think that's a bless longevity. Jay Z mentioned about a month ago that he didn't feel like anyone could be standing on the stage with him. Started a lot of buzz at third through. Who's three people you feel like would be a good battle for Jay jay Is definitely he definitely wanted you want to be kind um. You know, he got the charisma stage president, he got the songs. I think Wayne has the stage president charisma. I think he got the songs. I think Drake got the stage

president Charisma, got the songs. So you got a few people. I think, Yeah got the stage President's charisma songs. So you know, you get to the degree that we got. We got a few artists that we are alive to see right now. Just man, I said tune. I went on Instagram and I've been going out of the people. I say, tune, got tune, got something Tune. He's gonna get on it. He's gonna take his shirt off, he's gonna start looking like he have. You know, he's gonna

be it's gonna be different. But hold, it's super charismatic too. I just think I just think we're allied with It's just real cool time either one of these people we talked about drop a record of moronment. Yeah, crazy man, But it's crazy to to to to really just appreciate it, because most people don't. I feel like it's the same way in sports. Everyone wants to talk crazy about bronze staph James instead of just understanding, like what your witness,

what greatness? Man step literally looks like he's throwing the ball. It doesn't at some time it doesn't even it looks like it becomes a form like after like when it's boy the ram, it's like a goose s neck, but from here it just looks like he watching that, like to just know what a ram is every time? Man, it's crazy. He literally can do this. I feel like with one, I I feel like the mother get shoot one. Not man, he knows where that mother is. He said

they got Laci too. Now you can see the rim better. I think he got last year. I think, yeah, that might be crazy if he was blind this whole time. That's crazy, right, just to know that ship is that? Um, hit after hit, you said you've been blessed to continue to bring home plaques to this day. Can you pick a favorite or the more special more specialty? Absolutely, I'm different.

And the reasons I'm different is because, um, when you do a song, it has a hundred you know, publishing whatever you want to say, right, the producer gets for making the beat like and if there's no samples or anything like that, they get. The other fifty is the artist or who elp was on the song? That was just me, It wasn't nobody on the hook. Didn't nobody give me a line, didn't nobody to say you ought to talk about being different? I remember, I know where

I was when it went platinum. I was in London and at this time I was on I didn't know a lot that was plat my dear Mercy, that was platinum. It was like I couldn't miss. But deep down there my soul, when I looked in the mirror, I said, boy, you ain't did this by yourself. You know what I'm saying. I wann't trying to act like my ship and then start, you know what I mean. They could do something with one of the cheat sheets and act like this ship. Don't staying like you know what I'm saying. So I

do know I'm different. It's just me, and it's just me, and it's just my idea. And over a million people liked it, over a million, over three million people like this idea that I thought of. Counter you know what I'm saying. You know Drake did the hook on No Lie, I didn't, you know, So let me let's just be real. You know. I have a few more records solo, but that first solo record, I feel like I got jumped in the game. Yeah. Um, you've been blessed to work

with a lot of different people. Are there a few people still you haven't got a chance to work with that you'd like to? Yeah, it's cool. M m yeah, anybody you want to name put that out there. I'm through with that. That alright. Ufter this point, who's your? You feel like you're in your opinion? Your Your funnest collab was with my Fun Fun Fun Collapse. Let me see, HOLLI grow one too. Anything I do it with Wayne is fun. First of the new we're working on color

Grove too now and it will be ill. I don't want to say April, but man, that was It was really fun because we were in a room a lot of times doing this and it wasn't just email and what you think. We were actually watching ESPN or UFC fight for hours and then like recording or going to live the process of Yeah, man, this album is super fun. I love working with Tune. I love working with you because whatever you left it as it's not gonna sound like that. So it's like just like wanting to know

what brother in to do. Yeah, you know, the boys called me one day said like you know Mercy coming out to Mark it's gonna be a single. And I had done like when I first like started working with you. Then it's like they booked the whole hotel out in the whole top floor with studios, and the studio was right across my room and everybody was in there, like Tiana Side had like all the artists, you know what

I'm saying, And yeah, he's not there. So it's like he's almost like trying to give me like a little test. So you have some tracks pulled up that he wants me to do, you know what I'm saying. So I go through one track, I go South and can smoke, and Jake called him like, yeah, he's done, him saying like what you mean, No, Like no, he's done, because like you gonna work on songs for like a year, not you know what, like you're done, You're done done. Pull up this one, not that, but y'all, bro, don't

that man, Okay, pull up this one. So like four records later, I am saying no, bro. You know, they get asked me, do you you must have had all these verses wrote down I already I said no, I'm just doing I mean, you know, what I'm saying. I don't care who in the room right now. I do a whole song from all these people, you know what I'm saying. And I did it. They called me, said that song you did Mercy, I'm like Mercy. Which one

was that? Like it's gonna be a single? I said, When I did, it didn't sound like it could be no single. I said that you get on there, like, yeah, you got on it. So they played to me for me over the phone and it didn't sound on nothing left, you know, it was my verse, but man, everything else was and that at that point there, I started trying to pay a little bit more attention to music, be a little bit more detail. After I realized what people who were kind of at the top, we're doing to

be at the top. You know. It just wasn't just like taking this and being done with it. They it was a process and they still was seasons and adding different ingredients to it. And that was my first time being a part of that process. Looking it up. Who was some of the younger UH rappers in the game, you like these days? Some of the young boys. Man, my album thank You, I can start telling my my

new album don't sell itself. It's full because I had put out a memo saying it's my last trap album Wanted, which is not really my last trapped around, but just all of it being in one space. Don't don't sell itself. It's almost gen Z Base like Millennial base. I got all the artists, and I would say they up and coming, but they ain't going the way they're here. I got money Bag, little Baby, Roddy dirk Um dry Queeze, my artist, Sleepy Rolls. I have well SWEDEI sleep yeah sleep, I

have Swedee. I have Stove God he's from Syracuse. I got Simble from the Worst. That's the Homy shout out Simble. Yeah yeah man. So uh am super happy about clashing my o G veteran talk with the young with the young flavor. You know what I'm saying. I'm really uh, I'm really excited to get some feedback off the new project. Talk about your basketball career, bro, and you're playing a lot of slab games. I played the slab game for you, but I think the one I played in was your

best one. Uh you performed in I don't know if it was because I was out there and you was trying to outdo me. But you really, you really showed you really impressed me that game. Ever since then, I don't know what happened. Ain't seen no good highlights now because the game, because we were actually playing in the game I played in which we was actually playing, like you actually came warmed up, had to shoot like you showed up earlier. It's good to play with people. How

do I say this? To really play? How do I say this? All right, y'all are NBA players now this is let me let me get in this. How you NBA player imagine? And you this is just something you can relate to because you have great passes. You come down, pump, fake, behind the back, past, just go out of bounds. Do you passed the two looking at you like, so that happens you come down again? No? Look, now you're starting

to look crazy because can't nobody catch your path? Yeah, now you look like why this guy that they even saying you sorry? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And so for me, a lot of the cliff that you see me put up is like the last game that I put up, the last game that I actually played that I can remember that I put up with this summer when I played with with Trey and Brad and and Carmelo and all these guys you know over here

with drew up in California. When I go play with them, and you know, I had two or three buckers with them, And it was because I think the level of competition, because I know, I know they know how to play, and I know I know how to catch the ball, and I know if I thought it like, I know, they got to hit you right in the mouth for you to catch it right, I know you know how to catch. It just makes me happy to play with, especially people whose skill set is higher than mine or

something that, yeah, like mine. But if somebody really can't play basketball that good, it's just just kind of take my my energy away. You know. It's just and I was, and I was for a long time, for a long time, for a long time, Bran And I don't know, this might be a problem with people might not know how real ill I am in in the booth, but a long time, that's how I treated the music game. I

did it according to competition. So if it wasn't like Drake or Yeah or whatever, I wasn't like, you know, all the songs with the big ones, I'm I'm mopping the floor. But then I would get like a pop record and not be like, man, I can't. I can't give them all this, you know what I'm saying. When in actuality, Lebron, don't water it down for no nobody. You come out there not no doud. You don't get

your grass throw, you know what I'm saying. Kobe, don't take He's not since you and it literally took me years to do that. And then basketball, I still ain't there yet. Like if you game playing, I can play, I just don't even want to because somebody gonna get hurt. It's just something ain't gonna be right. I'm just not into it like that. But in music, if you ain't all the way there, I don't care. It's exposure time.

I'm exposing. But once upon a time I could get a record from an artist who ain't seen you know what I mean. Maybe it's somebody that ain't got all the bars and I kind of playing around tiptoe with it, you know what I'm saying. But didn't have a record with you know, god knows who and really show up and show out. But now I'm at the point of my career in the last couple of years with no matter what it has to be. He was letting the run point. He ran point that day too, so he

really thought he was magic Johnson there. You should have seen it, and you don't want to talk about legs all kind of he thought he the first thing he came here to challenge us to a shootout outside the first thing he did when he came here. Who the best celeft you played against in the game. I think Quabo can hoop? I think Chris Brown could, who Braisy

and who? Like? Let me think it's a few people thinking actually whop if they you know, probably got us all together, there's probably be one good game because a lot of us, you know, smoke, It's probably one good on the second or third game. And started kind of understand like we get to smoke the whole entire season because coming out of the game training, but it would

be trained to do it. You trained, y'are not taking two months off then y'all still lose from the leg Actually was helping y'all and he was doing a full workout there as soon as we was, before we even shower. We were smoking in the car shut off. That's got to do it. That's had a little bit. My partner

did he want his parents and know he smoked. He taking ship out, put it in the back, back fold up, put the trunk under some ship man, she's still on You remember me calling you after the Jack Harlow and Quibo game man. So many people called me after the Jack Hallow man a game was worth like a million dollars or some ship man. Yeah, I I called this, go ahead, break it down to it. You broke it down to like, come on, bro it was it was we got, we got beat, we got we got definitely beat.

Quite play good. Jack Harlow was more like a lamb Beer type of player. I just felt like he was just some like somebody in the middle, just like and then you know, maybe a player, maybe a player, you know what I'm saying, Maybe just a player anything. He

hadn't having boatloads of cash. Yeah million was like he might even say some ship like I don't know, but um because I was like, I was like, you want to practice, you know what, like before the game, like let's just get together in the same court so we can. And so I had been like maybe like a week a week before the game. I started shooting, just trying to get my rhythm back, you know what I'm saying, shooting, And then I think he came in with you to Georgia Tech, Jim, and he came in and kind of

warmed up the day before. Somebody that tried to get warmed up the day before. But you know what I'm saying, you know, you know you I was in for some ship. Yeah, and then walk in, he walked in like he's getting fifty. Yeah. I mean you know that. That's the part of being from Atlanta. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Very very high competence. It's a high confidence rate in Atlanta, you know. And um, you know it was it was. It was maybe kind of frustrating at the time, but it was it was

actually fun, and you know it was fun. I don't think I would have changed anything. It would have I would have had to be in really top shape to really try to go at you know, both the guys those solo sip like that, and I would have had to have everything really working. J K package, the whole pack package. You gotta get a rebound, take it back and get them so then like they get them trying to sit up it still being like, damn, I just gonna be a long time. But I would do it again.

You know, I would do it again. I would do it again if somebody wanted to do it. I still love Who would you pick as a teammate? UM? Probably probably probably quite boot him more than I. Who would you can't be quite because I got to go against him a hollow again right here on Harbold team. So if I had to go, who else? CBS? Probably CB? I to go CB, C Ball, go c Man. I played the game with CB, and there's number of the NBA Cats and the and CBR. They're going to work.

You gotta handle too. Yeah, I think with anything though, man like a lot of a lot of the Cats begetting open runs, and that consistency keep you keep your joint open run. That's why I'm out of the NBA. We always catch you course side. At the Atlanta Hawks game, Trey Young is kind of giving you guys an organization some new life. What's it like, you guys? Uh? You quave A lot of rappers go out there, gooch all out their supporting. Uh. The Atlanta Hawks Slasher made a

nice run to the Eastern Conference finals. Um trying to find themselves this year. But talk to us about the Hawks men. I mean, we want them to have a good team. And you know, you've got so many people from Atlanta. We want to support that. We want them to we want them to be good. You know, Trey Young has definitely giving us a lot of life, a lot of energy. I know people didn't you know about the trade at first with Luca or whatever. You know, worked out worked out. I think it work. It worked

out for everyway right, it worked out. But Traded doing an excellent job in Atlanta, Man, he fissing perfectly. Not outside a lot of artists now artists, a lot of athletes that played for Atlanta. I'm sure Steve, you can attest it this. They'd be outside jerseys in the strip clubs. Yeah. But but but but honestly, man, you you don't see

trade man traders traders that handing his business. And you know, I can appreciate the passion, you know what I'm saying, like knowing behind scenes, like he's passionate about nice with some of the other young players you like to watch outside the tray brother Hawks A period period basketball, the younger Cash, the younger Cash the younger Cash. I like Garland. Now, I like, uh when you talking about younger cash, young kids, I like, uh right, my boy from Golden State Pool, Georgan,

like you, Jordan's. I got a couple more that I just I like them. Um, And so you know, I got something to do with the G League. So a lot of these guys that came to the G I like with Gary Payton Jr. Is Doing. Are you like the grind if you talked to him to about that you are partial owner? Yeah, the college part of scott Hawks. So they like a byproduct of the Lanta Hawks. You know what I'm saying. Kind of like for people that

don't know, um G League. And this year, man, what I had due to covid Man, maybe three or four guys move up and get to play for the Hawks. Bro, bro, I remember you know what I'm saying. We're talking we got a new coach and everything. We're talking before the season, and we had a guy named our money went to the Houston Rockets and know how to another guy to

get moved up. But see this is like, yeah, okay, so I didn't go to the league, but like me, being able to know somebody and get him in the league. It's just like me living by scariously through them and it just gives me like so much happiness. Right So, I'm in this room with people and only maybe three guys came back from the previous year, and I'm looking around and I'm I'm really thinking, man, I wonder who

could go. But anyway, I had a conversation like, man, I want you to take this serious because you know, the only way to go from here is up. You could be in and I'm just saying this before you know what I'm saying. And then you look up and you know what I'm saying. A couple of them getting driss out on the bench and then they get to get in to say you really, it's on your resume. You know what I'm saying that I started I started

out the D League back then, for real, back then. Yeah, and like I called up to the Clippers and played fourteen years, that ten day turned out of that. That's what That's what I'm saying. If you take advantage of that right there, you know what I'm saying. If you get in, man, I'm telling you, this ship could change your life. So I don't know, being a part of that it's like, man, so refreshing in the position. Yeah, man, And it makes me pay attention to guys who don't

get drafted, guys who don't got a big name. You know what I'm saying. It's just it'd be certain circumstances that put you in the g leaguer. Ain't because you ain't having no game, you know what I'm saying. So um, Anyway, it's a lot of you know, New York cast that I'm fans of. I like, uh my boy from Houston. I like two three cats, Houston Boys, the Porter. Yeah, that Jalen boy. I like his. I like his motor. They already fly fly to be running. I like him.

And those are something the guys I talk about. All the stuff you got going online and not just a sky Hawks. You got the basketball, you got the nel salon. You don't know what fifty plus properties like give them. You know. But Escobar made you miss your honeymoon, didn't it. That ain't made me miss a lot of ships. He came night, he came to Escobar after his I went

back to the hotel is too high? Yeah, yeah, I came and uh so I have a restaurant and then I have a few restaurants in Atlanta, but they yeah, Escobar so Escobar is um a lounge in the top of the place. Has great food, great ViBe's great energy, and people actually go after their wedding. You can ask Steve. It's a nice place to go. Uh. Me and my partner Snoop have owned this spot. Snoop, We've owned this spot for five years. I have another spot just had anniversary. Yeah,

I had an anniversary for that. Then I had an anniversary from my spot called Esco Esco South South that's been open two years. And then we have another restaurant was only members only that we're revamping and we're about to name that Esco Slash. I can't even Esco Pizza be looking out for that. And then I have one called Esco Seafood that we actually opened during the pandemic. Yeah, and that that's doing real good. It's on Edgewood and it just has nothing but great seafood for all you've lost.

The lovers like myself and uh nails. I have Pamper nails salon that mine ain't looking at all like they're supposed to look right now. But I'm mentor like grooming and take care of myself. And it's for males and females. Everything is unique. So dope vibe Jack get a disking on his feet in there. Yeah man, they pull out the mom jumper cable jumped them boys off. But yeah, man, I have prose property wise, I own, man. I own, you know, apartment building that I'm about to start working

on re rehabbing. Own. Yeah, own maybe seventeen properties. Um m hm, yeah, I own. I own some things, own some things business. I just like to highlight that because you know you're my boy. You know what I'm saying, and I I always knew your mind frame. So to see you know what I'm saying, all this stuff coming to fruition, you know what I'm saying. It makes it make me proud to thank you man. That's all for sure,

quick hitters man. First thing to come to mind. Let us know if you could be remembered by one bar or lyric in your career, which one would it be? And why one barred lyric in my career? Mm hmm man. True, true, I'll go for that. True. That's a good one. Top five rappers all time excluding me. Um, I like uh Wayne Hove based three k two sleepers and I'm going up package up pocket Biggie, you know, together excluding any of your art um one album you could listen to

with no skips. I mean, it's crazy, ship is man, I'm I'm really laid back cat. It's probably an R and B album out there something, it's not. That's what I would be going to me that Jackie Jack state. I don't mean to cut you off. Jack stayed in my house a couple of months ago. I'm waking up at eight in the morning just gangster something damn Jack that they didn't even know it yet. Jack is a gangster though real life does not like gangster and s

up at all. It was eight and there ain't no warm up and nut Violet Jill and stacking violence from from data from the Jack. We don't even have a breakfast yet. Bro. Yeah, I'm definitely not doing I'm not definitely not playing no ship like that. I am just a calming individual. I have now like the past two weeks because I have such a huge problem sleeping as I've been going to uh which which funcks up my playlist.

It's just crazy, but I've been going to sleep to these sleep sounds on the Apple and you know, so I guess they'd be on all night when I'm sleeping. So now like i get in my car bluetooth and I'm like, what the fund is the wind? I get to looking around, realized my bluetooth is picked up last night. But that's what I've been actually like listening to, like water and they've been listening to the ship just trying to like you heard the new rain drop rain patterns.

I've been listening to rain patterns that calm. Yeah, courtside ticket to any game in history? Which one would it be? Well? One of my favorite courtside games that I went to was the Cleveland versus Golden State game where Kyrie and lebron Broke had forty three or forty something point. What M that's a man you want to be at? Right there? Man? My heart changing BPMS. Now, man about that game? Now, I know something I you know, wanted to be at like Kobe's last game. You know, I wanted to be

at that game. Um, you know, you know stuff like that. And then you know, like coming up, I'm old enough to like know when Jordan played, but like my family and my dad didn't have you know, like any resources to take me to go see him in live live. But I remember going to being able to, you know, start going to see myself and I remember seeing a I play live and just how quick he looked in real life. To me, was was like something I had

seen before. And just like I remember, you know, seeing him live and just but but you know, for them for the most part. Now I'm in a position to like, let's see what you want, do what I want to do. I would love to go see I would love to go see cause we never asked that question m J when he got sixty three in Boston the playoffs. I was a young year. That's like a second year, right, all right, So if it had to be an m J moment, I just always thought about, like I watched

that game. What about they lost that game? Bird was on five? Yeah, they lost. They still lost five Dinner guests dead or alive. I would want somebody like Dave Chappelle there, so it could be some kind of learning, like fun experience, perfect person, uh, somebody that seems like they got it figured it out. I mean, my Denner would definitely be everybody that I feel like I have some type of knowledge that I don't have I just I can't think of them right now, but it'll be

maybe Mark Cuban, friend of mine, somebody like that. Like I'm probably putting something like that together as a couple of bestments in a couple. Do you see people around and some opportunities invest into somebody's some I'm putting them in the room together. Maybe uh, I mean the name some people in the VC space maybe uh, the black being there, guy being um, I can't think his name. He's into Adventure VC two. But it would just be some money people. It will be some money people that

have opportunities. And I would want to be Bob, Robert Smith, Robert Smith. Yeah, I would want Robert Smith there. So we've got Robert Smith, Mark Cuban. I got to get a female. I mean, somebody deceased. We gotta get you love to be at the table, to get to know somebody decease that we love that you would love to have you sit because he he followed that whole hustle grind the way we're thinking at this table. And then we need a female so it won't just see like

it's male dominant. We need a female who just no souper on her ship, you know, and I think it would be a cool down him. If you could pick one guest to be on all the smoke, who would it be? But but the twist of that question is you gotta help us get your answer on our show, um my bat, I mean honestly, you know, Kanye would definitely put up by himself Broby outside, Roby outside right outside, even trying. It's funny now, man, Oh, y'all, I'm straight

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