¶ Technical Difficulties and Medical News
What is that noise which sounds like a train in the background ?
It's literally a train .
Oh my God , we're just going through all this drama with your system . You've been broadcasting for 18 years now .
Eight years , eight years .
Eight years . Eight years , every day , without fail , and yet we're having technical difficulties . How was your week ? I know you had a bad week , like I did .
Yeah , work's been crazy Busy and yeah , I still don't know like who's where , what's going on . Well , who's in what building , what's in what building ? And then , like at the end of the day , my boss is like oh , it's getting dark , I can't see anything , so I'm going to go home . I'm like you have no lights . What is happening ?
So you have to kind of explain this , especially for people who are just listening to the audio part of this . You don't work at the site that you're talking about . You are a remote worker who has to deal with your boss and everybody else , and so you're kind of blind by whatever it is they're telling you right ?
Yeah , they're in Florida . I'm in Connecticut , I work from home and they just don't tell me what's going on . So I'm like literally always feeling like an idiot because I don't know who's where , what's where .
So why is it frustrating this week as opposed to last week ? Is something worse happen , or ?
Because by now everything should be situated and apparently we're still not . And I'm like you have no lights , so you have no electricity in this new building . What is happening ? I don't understand .
So we're supposed to have a mystery guest , and so here's the thing . I am going to say . His name , tommy Lee , who's an old school friend of mine from back in the day , reached out and said he wanted to be on the show and our schedules kind of got a little bit crossed so he might be able to make it later .
So we may or may not have a guest coming up , just so everybody knows . That's why I wrote mystery guest , but it's no mystery to be my friend . Oh , I cannot believe . I just said his name and he's trying to come up . Yeah , but I don't know if he's actually on . I can see him a little bit .
Tommy's going to have to text me , because all I see is a black screen .
Oh , his camera's not working .
I don't know , tommy , can you hear us ? So I'm going to lock you off and once I see you I'll put you back up , but we're having issues with your audio and your visual .
And we don't know if he can hear us .
I don't know if he can hear us .
Can he see the private chat ? Maybe he should be able to see that right .
Yeah , can you write in it ? Are you able to write in the private chat ?
Yeah , for us , for people that are on the screen , yeah .
But he also has my cell phone . I mean he could text me , or I guess I just turned off my text but he could just text me or whatever . Yes , so you're going to try to help him on the chat .
Hopefully he answers my question .
Oh goodness , lord , I don't , even know Computer . Okay , he's on his computer . Sorry people , we're going to have to work through this technology to see if we can get Tommy up . Yeah , this is when I should have background music so that we can all listen . Pay attention .
Actually , you have AI music built into Re-Stream that you can .
I know , but I'm joking , I'm not going to play that .
Yeah , I know .
Yeah , so yeah , hopefully he'll be able to come back on , so that's why you were having a bad week and I'm so sorry about that . Is it going to get any better anytime soon ?
I mean now they're finally starting to catch up . So I think hopefully by Monday things should hopefully be back to normal . So yeah .
So the reason why I had a bad week but I'm finding joy in it and I wasn't going to talk about it , but I think I'm going to . So I got some bad medical news and I everyone who knows me knows I've been an athlete . I've been an athlete for a long time .
Everyone who's listened to this show even a tiny little bit , knows I had hip surgery after years of having a lot of pain . I would say that the reason why I am not a choreographer or try to pursue my dream on Broadway or whatever , is because I had a hip injury when I was a teenager and it got worse and worse and worse .
So after that surgery , which was a couple of years ago , I'm like my hip is great , it's fine , wonderful , and I've been having the worst and hardest time trying to get back at it and I didn't know what was wrong . So I found out some bad medical news . But I'm fine .
I don't know , rick , how and I don't mean to put you on the spot , it's only because you talked about it before but you don't go to the doctors at all , right , you don't even go yearly .
Only if I'm on my deathbed . Pretty much .
I go to the doctors every year , I get a physical , I get my blood work done without fail . Whether I have insurance or not , I use the free clinic and I think it's because my mom died so young because she didn't have health insurance . You know what I mean . So I'm obsessed with trying to be as healthy as possible , whatever .
And so this thing that happened is a genetic thing . It's Hashimoto's disease , which is a thyroid issue , and I hate to say this , but it's actually more common than you know . Like when the doctor was telling me what was going on and why my blood work , they were worried about it or whatever . I was , of course , freaking out and crying and whatever .
But it's a genetic thing . There's nothing you can do about it . I mean , you can , there's medication , but it became like this whole other trigger for me and I just like I'm going to be fine , I'm on the medication now and I have more testing next week or whatever .
But like , on the one hand , it was really bad news because I've tried so hard to stay healthy or whatever . On the flip side , I have an answer and I've only been taking the medication for a couple of days or for like three days and I already feel fantastic .
So even if you so , you have this condition . It's genetic and you can like go through a lifetime and never know you have it , and then it just turns on .
Okay . So Tommy said yes , it is something that can just happen that way . Let's see if I can . I can't see him .
I think at this point I would try the phone , and if the phone doesn't work then we're going to have to do it next time because , yeah , all right , let me call him .
Sorry everyone , we're just trying to get my cool friend up on the show . There he is . Wait a second . Hey , how are you there ? We ?
go . I don't think we can hear you .
It's so good to see you oh my God , okay , the only thing , we're going to do is this Wait , wait before you start , rick . How do you make this happen ?
So his phone goes this way can he turn it and see it ? We just want you to turn your phone . Will it Like that ? There you go .
There you go , woohoo Tommy
¶ Reconnecting With Past Color Guard Memories
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Hi Rick .
Hey , what's up ?
Oh , my God .
What are you doing ? I need a minute .
I need a minute .
I know , but why you've been watching this show . Don't get all crazy on me , baby . I you know what I called Jerry Glover after you reached out to me and I was like he wants to be on the show and he's like let him be on the show . I'm like I already told him he can be on the show , but why are you guys ? I need to get him on the show .
He's not going to come on the show .
I trust you believe I will make him come on the show , okay , you need to tell Rick how you know me , since you're getting all flustered , okay .
I am , I am ? I comment ? You're just going to make me cry and I have no idea . I'm so confused .
All right , so you match in St Teresa West Rocksbury , correct ?
Right with Jerry .
With .
Jerry , I mean , he was my instructor , he was my coach .
Right , you were captain . How ?
old were you ? I was 11 and a half . My mom had just passed away , so I was 12 .
And I'm three years old than you . So I was 15 and I was teaching St Tres Everett .
But we , we competed against each other , Didn't we ?
Yes .
And I think we kicked your ass all the time . No , I'm just kidding . Yes , you did , yes , yes .
Yes , you did , but I'm going to back up a minute .
Okay .
So I don't think you know how Jerry and I know each other .
I , I don't and I'm scared , but God .
So , jerry , match with St Teresa West Roxbury , really when you much .
Look at Laura . Laura Wall and I talked today and talked about you . Laura Wall was in San Francisco . Laura Wall , hi . Laura Wall Hi .
Laura Wall . I much in St Anthony's Revere , jerry and I competed against each other . That's how far we go back , wow . Yeah , so we're talking two generations .
Well , let's just say 10 years , because we don't want to age ourselves .
Yeah , well , no , we're not .
God , what are you doing ?
I'm going , rick , I'm going to tell you something OK , and I will never , ever forget this day . It was Easton Mass Finals at Everett Armory , and Common was so sick , oh yeah .
I was really sick .
She had the flu or something , and I'm going to say this she was an amazing performer . That's why she was captain , because she was amazing and I'll never forget . I'm going to call you out Is that .
Ok , I don't have a choice because I don't know where you're going with this , but I can edit everything , so go ahead , go ahead .
I'll never forget . She was so sick . Common never dropped a piece of equipment in her life , ever , ever , ever . And it was obvious that she was sick and she almost passed out and Jerry Glover picked her up , carried her off the floor and said I'll never forget it . She walked right by me and she said I tried so hard . I tried so hard .
I'll never forget that . Ok Do you remember that ?
Yeah , I do . I mean , I was just a little kid , you know , but I , you were 11- years old .
Are you kidding me ?
Laura remembers .
Yeah , laura , and I talked today for two hours . Laura's awesome . I know I'm getting back in touch with people , it's just it's like and then .
I don't know if you know it or not , but when you went to Blessed Sacrament you actually matched with my cousin who was your cousin .
I don't remember people that well , so who was your cousin ?
Well , she's only my cousin by marriage , because my brother married her sister who taught Saint Trays , Sandra Capitalupo .
I have to see a picture , and that's you were both in the right line together .
I'll show you a picture .
Yeah , I need a picture . I you know a lot of things that happened at Sac . I kind of blocked out . You know , as you know from my book and Laura and I were talking about this like and you know , even Jerry said this and Jerry knew me pretty well , but there was all this other stuff happening while I was performing , yeah .
So , rick , I'm so sorry you're going to be stuck in the kind of I'm sorry .
Oh no .
This is like a reunion . I have not seen her since she was like 15 years old , yeah Well that was when I stopped doing Color Guard , right .
And then I did one year of Lancers , yeah , oh Well , you know I did . I was in JumpCore . Yeah , I did one year of Summer JumpCore and I was done . I didn't know you did that , I'm done . Yeah , I did one year , yeah , it was a good experience . And then I was done , yeah .
Yeah , I did the whole thing , like you . I did the marching thing and then I did the teaching thing and then I did the jumping thing and you did . You were judging too . Oh , I just stopped judging , like maybe four years ago .
OK , I'm going to give some background . So , rick , clearly you can tell this is all like . So Color Guard and JumpCore , it's all like band stuff or whatever Does that make sense ? And flags and rifles , and there's all this performing and I was going to ask for clarification . OK , I'm so sorry , like we're just all like you could just leave if you want .
No , so I love you , but yeah . So that's kind of what we're talking about . We're talking about that time together and the thing is , we all rehearsed so much it was our life . Well , I shouldn't say that because , yeah , no , no , it was our life . It was our life Right . It was my saving grace .
Yeah , it was my saving grace , but I remember that performance and I think straight after that they took me to the hospital . There was one time they took me straight to the hospital but I had really bad asthma , and so that's what part of the problem was , is I had the flu but I also had asthma , so it was a combination .
But yeah , I'll never forget that day .
I will never , ever , ever , ever forget that day . And I went over to Jerry and I was like , is she OK ? He's like , yeah , she's going to be OK . I'm like Jerry , she's like , I'm like Darcy , she's going to be OK . I'm going to say this , ok , and I can say this I'm going to say this as , first and foremost , your friend .
I'm going to say this as an instructor and I'm going to say this as somebody who judged this . This lady , oh God , common , I can't handle . This Is amazing . When I tell you an amazing performer , like if I had to equal her to somebody , I would say she was Bet Midler or Boba Streisand . Stop it .
Tommy . People are going to think you're a guy . Are you out of your mind , Carmen ? I just told Laura we have to talk about something else .
Now , when I say that , I mean that from the bottom of my heart . That is a crazy . This lady is that talented . Oh my God .
Do you need some tissues ?
And I cannot believe . I am honored that you and I are face to face .
But you could have reached out to me any time . I would have . I mean , here's the other thing . I called Laura today and I apologize to her because I don't reach out to people either , but I always OK . So here's what I told Laura today , and some people who might be watching , who are part of that world , are going to probably get upset .
You know , I was really in my own little world back then .
Oh my God , Laura is here right now . Yeah , what did you ?
Oh my , God , you were near the whole time .
You were near the whole time . I was not looking in the comments .
Hi , laura , yeah , yes , I talked to her . She's always . She always stops by the show . She's like one of the biggest supporters . Yeah .
OMG yeah , laura Wall .
Yeah , you should talk to her . I mean , I don't want to out her on something she told me I'm not going to lie .
I feel like I am in the presence of royalty right now .
Well , rick is a king . There's no doubt about it , hey , bobby .
And I'm like can I get your autographed car ?
money . Oh , I'm going to start charging . I used to do autographs . That was like the weirdest thing , like especially , do you remember the Cavaliers ? That's when I knew I was big time when the Cavaliers .
I'm not who .
Cavaliers is you , that's right .
You did . Yeah , do you remember ?
Oh my god . Well , yeah , cora Smith was my bus partner in Lancer's . That's , that's right .
I was wondering Wait wait , wait .
Look what Laura just said . I wasn't going to out her , but she said she had a crush on you . She told me today I was like well , because , tommy , you are fine , you know , you know fine , ok , like you just embarrassed the hell out of me for 20 minutes . Let's talk about how fine ass you are . Yeah , yeah , talking about my performing .
Come on .
Yeah , I matched with you know what ? That's right , you did match with Cavaliers and I matched with Madison Scouts . Bonnie Story , you match . Do you remember Carol Dimwitty ?
Pictures . I need pictures , I'm a big show .
Very , carol Dimwitty . Ok , mary Ann Catrone . Hey , ted .
Hey , ted , do we have to do a hard seven ? You have a show at seven . Go ahead , tommy . Mary Ann Catrone , do you ?
remember her . Oh , yeah , yeah . Aggie , I'm still good friends . Aggie Lubie's Aggie , I'm still good friends All right , so she was badass .
I liked Mary Ann Catrone . It was Uh .
God , it was a , it was drum core season . There was a show at Maldon Stadium . This is how I got into Madison . Scouts Carol and Maryam were like , oh yeah , he can spin . And he and um he taught the rifle line .
And I don't know , let's see what you can do .
So there I am on your sidewalk . I'm not kidding you on the sidewalk spinning a rifle , doing turn around , catching your back . He goes , go home , get your clothes , get on the bus . Oh , sell , sell , sell us Sell sell .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , wait , wait , wait . You didn't have to audition , that was it .
That was my audition Awesome no , it wasn't awesome .
Oh why ? Why Everyone hated you .
Well no , I went home at like 10 o'clock at night the next time over because remember I lived in Everett and the ship was in Maldon and I was packing my bag . My mother was like where you going ? I'm like I'm going on tour .
Just like that .
Just like that when .
I tell you she was furious . And then all of a sudden I'm not kidding you , Carmen there I am sitting on a bus , traveling , and I'm thinking to myself what am I doing ?
No , that's the best way . It was the best thing I ever did . That's awesome . I didn't know that story . I did not know , okay , wait , I knew .
I knew that I was okay , it's going to be big ego , but I knew I had made it or was a great performer when the Cavaliers who were doing James Bond remember they were doing James Bond , like that you remember that year , right , I remember that year I was up with the tuxedos . I was up to that , oh man , okay . So I knew I made it .
When they came out , and they came out and came to me and asked me for an autograph , yeah , and I was like , okay , oh my God , you know , I remember that .
Oh my God , this is amazing . I was like . I was like wait , I know her .
Wait , and me and Aggie . Okay , cause this is the vivid memory I have of me and Aggie , so Aggie's there with me , or whatever , and the Cavaliers are all coming up . Rick , are you bored out of your mind ?
I'm so sorry . No , I'm enjoying it .
So all the Cavaliers come out , we exchange autographs or whatever and then we start having like a rifle spinning , spinning thing . Yes , I remember
¶ Memories of Drum Corps and Judging
that . Oh my God , it was so much fun , it was awesome and I just that's when I felt the most kind of like I , I felt like I was on cause they were , you guys were amazing that was a great year , when I tell you .
I cried all the way from Dayton , Ohio , back to Boston , cause that was my last year I aged out .
Oh , I didn't know that that was when I aged out . That was a great year to age out , cause that was a masterpiece show man . I mean , I was like I'm not sure what it was , but I think it was a great year .
I think it was a great year for me . It was . I loved them back then . It was a fun show , but I gotta be honest with you .
You know you've been captain . Yeah it's , it wasn't easy . Oh yeah , nothing . Any of it was easy . What is ? It , and you know like we would throw in your equipment across the fucking yes Gymnasium . Yes , linda , really lucky that we had , we could have people outside that I was captain for West Side Story .
Oh , I was amazing .
Okay . Rick , imagine this All these gorgeous men in tuxedos , because the Cavaliers were all men , so they already had that going for them . They were all good looking , they were all dancers , they were all performers , I mean . And then all the equipment . I mean it was just amazing . You know what I mean ?
It was fun Linda just said is in the Norwalk Hot Shots drum corps please , and fire department ran . Oh , the police and fire department ran . Oh , police and fire , okay , okay , well , people have to make the connection like . I remember there was a time when we were so snooty about bands versus drum corps . Yes , do you remember that ? You can't do that .
You gotta be able to connect people . You know what I mean .
So I love what I hear yeah absolutely .
And you know what's funny ? What's our class of 83 WHS ? What's WHS , bobby ? I don't know what that is . Go ahead . No , tommy , not you . I was talking about Bobby's stamp . She wrote an acronym . I don't know what it is . Yeah , I know , I'm trying to figure it out myself . We just had a 40th reunion oh cool , Awesome , congratulations .
Something high school . I just had my 43 shut up . Wait a minute , what are you talking ?
about 40th . Okay , I'm gonna have to call you later to find out how the hell old you are .
You're just gonna go in the aisle baby .
what is happening here ? Well , I was shocked because I didn't realize how old Jerry was , but in my head not old like that , but he's clearly older than I am . But you know , jerry was my mentor , basically right , he was one of my mentors and him and Susan Kerwin- he's amazing .
Honestly , like Rick , you have no idea , this guy .
Well , he read the book , so he knows the story of when he doesn't know the story . You have the book , yeah , so in the book when I'm auditioning , when they tell me you don't have to audition you already , captain , we're just doing this to like bridge every . It was horrible and I was so upset about it because I wanted to audition .
But I'll tell you this I've never , I never auditioned , ever for anything when I was in not even for . Blessed Sacrament . No , they wanted me the first . Karen Kelly wanted me the first year .
Karen Kelly is my best friend like .
I love her . I mean , I haven't talked to him forever , but we .
Talk every day . We talked together .
She's cool so and I love her little quips on Facebook .
But you know , she tried to get me the first year and I wouldn't go because I was like I don't want to be because , remember , the year before the first rock and roll dance thing of Majigui they did , they did that whole Kind of slutty Fantastic , yeah , no , the before the first Rockwood , oh , lady is a tramp and and they worked their magic with that and I
was like , oh no , that is not me , I am not because she wouldn't tell me that it was the Rockwood that they were changing . But I didn't regret that at all . I was there during glamorous life .
So you know , hey , that was wait you were there for glamorous life and you were there for Rockwood sack right .
Yeah , I was there for the second Rockwood sack and glamorous life yeah .
I didn't know these .
Yeah , I was there for that .
Yeah , and then oh , I'm gonna watch that video and look for you .
Oh God , don't say that people gonna be looking for stuff . I've never even seen ladies and gentlemen , it is my pleasure . Massachusetts .
Lammers life and I'm pretty sure you're gonna see this lovely .
Yeah , I already looked . You really can't see anything like you can see it , but it's all fuzzy and stuff .
Yeah all right . I'll tell you if you go on .
No , I'm scared oh .
Lord , if you go on YouTube and I hate that I did this . Even my brother said to me why did you do that ? I was like I have no idea . It's just I . I don't know . I just did it when I matched with .
We would have a liars , and we have a liars side story .
Yeah , you know , they said all the judges ready . Right is the color God , ready Common I have no idea what this came from Walked out front and I went why I ? I have no idea , I have . No , I didn't work .
Did it work ? It was one , so I guess it . By the way , the Cavaliers were like national champions , for I came up we came off the floor .
We came off the floor and my brother and my sister-in-law was able like where did that come from ? I'm like I have no . It's being a natural performer . I have no idea what that came from . It's a natural performer .
Okay , I just know . Yeah , we're good yeah so here's the thing . So okay , we have to give it some context , because Rick's like I don't understand what the big drama is .
Usually , before you start your performance , the judges ask the team if they're ready and the team is not the right word , but that's what I'm using to explain it and they ask you if you're ready , and then you do like a salute , you do something fancy , whatever , and he's saying he just went out , went like yeah , we got you , or whatever .
Like we're good , like other people . Other people would come out and be like salute .
Yeah right , we do something major , you know .
What was her name ? Who was your captain at blesses app ? With a long blonde hair ?
Robin .
Robin , yeah , robin , she was . Yeah , yeah , right , right , yeah , everybody would do something different .
Right , I just be like , do I I ?
Honestly , I was like okay when did you leave ?
so you stopped judging how many years ago when ? Why didn't you love it ?
I Did . I really didn't , in fact , you know what I got it . Oh it to Jerry Glover and Jim bow . Remember Jim bow .
Yeah , I do remember Jim bow , I do remember him .
They were like you need to judge , you need to judge . I'm like what am I gonna judge ? I don't even know what to judge then . So , jerry , god bless , jerry . Yeah , I don't think you know this about me , but back in the day I was a dancer .
I thought you're gonna say something really profound . Like I , I was an engineer , I was an astronaut . So I mean , rick , are you surprised that he just said dancer ?
I was thinking like secret love child .
I got my card in movement and then . Tommy , you've written how many shows you need to judge general effect . Okay , so I had no honestly . Honestly , I had no clue . Yeah , but now you're going into the weeds , you're going into judging and getting my card in To judge general effects , which was like the big thing .
And then Don't worry about it .
Equipment like yeah , and that's just . That's just . I don't know what , how . That's how it happened .
You did it only for four years . Why did you go ? I'm only moving us off that because you're going down the weeds that nobody who's not involved in judging Even I don't know what you're talking about . I just , I just you were tired . Yeah here's what I asked , jerry .
I want you to answer this question why I'm surprised that I'm here in Hollywood and I don't run into anyone who was in color guard , drum core drill team Like I , you know , in the way that we were . That's not to say that people haven't done it in high school or whatever , but this is at least . It used to be a very different situation .
This is very professional , different , like these people were on tour rehearsing eight hours a day . It was a Livelihood . So my question is and I want to see how you answer it how come no one ever told people in color guard and drum core go to Hollywood , go be a performer , go try acting , go be a dancer , go . There's so much talent in that world .
I'm serious . So what's your answer ? Don't you wish somebody had told you that when you were younger ?
Yes , yeah , I do , I , yes , I do .
Okay , but you agree with me .
There's so much time I agree with you 100% , I think , and , and , let's let's talk about where we come from . Okay , and let's talk about the activity as it is .
Okay . Well , why don't you start with where we come from ?
Why would I'm going to start with where we come from , okay ?
I have one word what poverty , what I don't know ? Selfishness . Oh , why are you using that word ?
Because why do you think that somebody would want someone who is as talented as you are to move on when they can keep you ? We're from Massachusetts . There's a reason why they call us mass holes , okay .
I was going a different way . I was going a different way . I told Jerry , because he's still teaching and he's still judging right . And I said to him if you see anyone who is even a little bit talented and wants just a little piece of being on stage , tell me .
I will help them however I can , because I cannot believe no one ever said to them look , and I was going through whatever I was going through as a kid , so I was just barely holding on . So I'm grateful for what I got . But I wish somebody had just said take all that drive and passion and joy and go do a stage play , go do a movie , figure it out .
And I think there should be that . Well , yeah , but I'm just saying the struggle is real when you don't have any connections or networks in this town . But I'm just saying I'm here now . Here's the difference . Okay , I can't believe . You said selfish . You think Massachusetts people are just so ?
I think they didn't know , I think they didn't know Absolutely . You live in California . Okay , if you're ever going to make it anywhere , it's going to be in California , massachusetts , people . You know how we are . You grew up here . We're very liberal . We're very , you know , on track .
Yeah , and performing . I mean , at least when I was growing up , performing wasn't an okay thing , like me dancing on the street or at the commons or , you know , at the VFW or wherever I was doing my dancing . That was kind of like , okay , good , good , she's not doing drugs , but it wasn't like revered , it wasn't like oh , she's so talented .
No right , it wasn't taken seriously , it wasn't taken seriously .
Right , it wasn't taken seriously . Yeah , okay , that's cool . And when I say and I'm being completely honest , carmen saw me I don't want to offend you . I don't want to offend you when I say she is talented , she's talented .
You're so sweet , like , and the sad part about it is Massachusetts is such a liberal state that you can be so talented , but if you're not over the top which she is , and somebody doesn't recognize you , that's the problem .
Well , it is the network that's the problem , right , that is the network , that's the network ?
Yeah , you can be over the top , like Carmen is , and if somebody doesn't recognize you ? Yeah , it's true , it's not going to happen .
Yeah , but still , I still think I'm just saying we can change that now . I think there's so much talent in that pool of people .
I mean there's a lot of shit performers too , Don't get me wrong , there's a lot of people , all right , so let's , let's , let's , let's , let's talk about this for a minute . Okay , so you and bless the sacrament .
Wait , say that again .
What you match and bless the sacrament
¶ Reconnecting With Old Friends and Updates
. You were in the right line the same year that I competed against you and Karen Kelly and who else I don't know .
I didn't yeah , I don't really keep in touch with everybody there .
Yeah , whatever , addie and Mary and okay , we're all friends , we're all good friends . To this day , we're all still good friends , yeah , yeah , yeah yeah . It doesn't win , lose or draw , it doesn't . There's nothing about who's better than you know what , right ? No , we're all the same people . Why ? Because we grew up in .
Massachusetts ? Right , I mean , that is the good part about Massachusetts , Rick , are you you're ? You were born and raised in Connecticut .
Yeah , you're the same city that I'm in right now .
Oh my God , you're like you're a hot skipper jumping away yeah .
From Tommy . You can go hang out with Tommy .
I'll go to Six Flags . That's where I like to go to Massachusetts .
So you know what , though ? I will say this , and this is the last thing I'm going to say about this activity and , rick , I hope this , I hope you're being enlightened . What do you mean ? We would not be having this conversation tonight If not for this lovely lady who I've known since she was a teenager and .
I was a teenager and she and I can go down memory lane and you can sit there and be like okay , okay , okay , I don't get this , but okay , okay , okay , it's okay , and , and , and . It only makes this friendship grow stronger , yeah .
Well , you're going to have to come back on too , like because , okay , because you have to , so we can move on from the color guard zone and we can talk about you . So what are you doing now ? Let's , let's talk about , okay . No , no , I live now Because you take these beautiful pictures from your backyard or something , of the sunset .
I , I , um . Well , okay , I'll tell you the truth I was married .
Do I know who you were married to ?
No , no , I was with somebody for 25 years .
Oh , it's a long time .
Yeah , we were married for 10 years but you know he couldn't keep his peepee where it should be .
Okay , wait a minute . Wait a minute , wait a minute . Not Kulligar Jump Corps person .
No , oh , all right , I would be better off , it was Kulligar .
Jump Corps . Well , I'm surprised it wasn't . I'm surprised it wasn't so okay , so you got divorced yeah .
Oh sorry , it is now yeah , sorry .
Rick is divorced and I'm divorced too , so yeah , we're all big club here .
Yeah , it is what it is , it's not a big thing , you know , you move on . Yeah , life goes on Right . Yeah , I don't wish him any ill-hum comedy . You know I'm not that person .
You're not that person . Yeah , you're a nice guy yeah .
No , I'm not that person . Good luck . I'm glad you're happy he's with somebody else and I'm glad that they're happy together and that's great . I choose to be single .
Yeah .
As you know , I'm very close to my family Always close .
That I do know , that I do know . Yeah , yeah , always was close to my family .
Right , always will be close to my family , right ? Uh , so you're in a little cottage in Middleborough , really , oh my God .
I'm right on the lake Right , yeah , you're right there .
I'm literally three steps from the water .
Me too . I'm three .
Well , I'm two blocks from the beach and it's , isn't it , wonderful , it's lovely , it's lovely , isn't it yes ?
You know , you let the water go there .
You can put your feet in , you can be .
I walked by . I don't put my feet in .
Oh , I'm just a few rooms from the bath tub .
Look at , rick . I'm just a few rooms from the bathtub .
I'm not going to lie . I people call me on occasion . They're like well , what do you think about this , what do you think about that ? What should I do with this ? What's that ? I know they send me videos of their color guide shows and and I'm like , okay , well , maybe you should move the flag line to the left , right , you open it up .
I , you're asking my opinion , and that's what .
I do . I work for you , you're consulting , you're consulting .
Yeah , oh yeah .
I'm thinking about retiring . Okay , you're not battled Like how old do you think ?
Or or oh . Who is the doggy ? Hello ?
This is my baby tank , tank , tank . Thank hi , baba . Okay , be gentle Gentle .
He's like I think we need attention . Oh wait , tank as in T A N K . Yes , it's a great name .
I love it . Well , you know why he's called tank .
Uh , because he looks like a tank .
Well , first of all , he's a pit bull . Is that a bad thing , or ? Good no but if I put water in his bowl , he's going to drink it all .
Oh okay , I know nothing about dogs , but he's , he's really beautiful , yeah , and he's my color . I'm just going to throw that out there . I love dogs that are that cinnamon brown color .
These are good boys , Canella maybe .
Canella , right ? So wait . So you're going to retire and do what .
Hell . No , I don't want to retire . I love my job .
So then why ? Why do you think you want to retire ? I'm confusion , Confusion .
You know , Jerry , and I talk about this at least once a week , Really about retiring . Yeah , and he's like Tom . I'm like Jerry . I've known you since I was 12 . Stop calling me Tom , I promise my father .
Oh wait , you like being called Tommy Lee , yeah , yeah , okay , I don't know you , tommy Lee , and that's always .
I mean , you know , I've gotten more places by just my name alone . That's so funny . I'm not going to lie to you . I got a free pizza one time because people thought it was Tommy Lee Lee .
It's horrible , that's horrible .
I'm not lying . I totally get that they came to the door and they're like is it really Tommy Lee ? Yep , Really is my friend was like yeah well , can we come to the door ? No , he's not going to come to the door , but he'll sign off .
He'll sign off on the credit card . That's so wrong , so I did . That's terrible , but that's okay . That's okay . I like that because you're not actually lying .
No , I'm not lying .
I was not . You must be at first . That's so funny , yeah , I guess I . You know what I think . As I get older too , I'm more confused as to the age difference , because there were certain people like my seventh grade teacher , Alice .
I mean , she's not you know , she's like you and Jerry's age , I guess , and but before you know , I thought , you know , like when I was 11 , she was so old , I think she was like 20 , you know what I mean . She's so old or whatever . But yeah , I still stay in touch with her and I stay in touch with everybody .
Yeah .
Yeah , alice , she's cool , so I can't like I feel bad to Rick . I this I love that you are always here and hang out and you don't mind that we go down this memory lane . We kind of had to do it . We kind of had to do it because I yeah , rick , I'm kind of sorry .
No , no , no , sorry , I am sorry , no , but Tommy , here's the thing .
I'm going to be honest with you . I really didn't understand this whole emotional thing that was coming from you . I had to ask Jerry why you wanted to even come on the show . Like I know who you are , We've been friends forever , you know what I mean .
But I was like I'm I don't understand , and Jerry was like I can tell you I wanted to connect with my friend . Yeah , it's that simple .
I know . No , I love that you did that .
Thank you Like I think you're an amazing person .
We got you .
I always thought you were an amazing person .
Well , I will say this Thank you for reading my book and telling me everything you thought of it . That was sweet . You remember . You did that right . You put that in that whole FB message and you text me too , cause that made me cry and I appreciate you . I look at , I'm not trying to , I never .
I'm just going to say it to you , cause if I say it to Tommy , I'll be crying . Whatever I always say , I was a great dancer , I will never not admit that I was a great performer . I loved that , I loved it , I wanted to do that or whatever you don't need , but that was from my point of view .
But I always say and this is true , tommy , I was horrible Technically , technically , you could not put me in a line with other people and I would be exactly the same . I really believe that's true . Do ?
I'm going to disagree with you , okay , well , all right , well , we're not going to fight on it anyways , but I hear it . Here is why I'm going to disagree with you , okay , okay . So I saw you perform with blessed sacrament , yeah , and you were in a line , yes , with the rifle line .
Yes .
And you were technically perfect , as everybody else was . You would not be where you are today if you were not . Okay , that perfect .
I'm going to argue with you , you don't give yourself enough credit . I feel like I'm about to get yelled at when I was just giving so much love .
Let me , let me put it to you this way you know when the rifle line comes up and the rifle line does their feature and where and sack and glamorous life , or glamorous life . What , yeah , you do your rifle feature up there . Right , you're right , rifle line is doing their feature . There's always one person that stands out .
But that's my point . Sometimes I'm not supposed to stand out .
That's exactly my point , but you can't help . I like how you stand out for a reason because you're that good .
Okay , I didn't wanna go back there . So I'm just saying you know , let's talk on the phone , let's stay in touch . I mean , I want you to come back on the show with the group . I don't wanna hang out with the group and you feel comfortable now with Rick , even though Rick , you know I do .
And you know what ? Thank you very much for doing this because , believe it or not , I'm okay . You're gonna laugh when I say this , but I'm very shy .
I know you are , but that's what most great performers that's the irony , most great performers are really shy . And I told Rick he wants to be on the show . But I think what did I say to you , rick ? I said I think he's a little shy or a little nervous about coming on , so I told him he can come on if he wants to , but he doesn't have to .
I already knew where you were going with him . I knew it was happening .
I am really that person and I thank you very much , both of you , rick , carmen , you're gonna come on next week , right Look at Brian . Look at Brian .
Brian is my nemesis and he's saying I'm shy too . He's like Carmen is shy too . I'm going to try this .
Laura , thank you for being here . It's like you just like blew my mind .
Oh you just blew her mind because she had a crush on you and we talked about it for like an hour . So you guys gonna have to talk or something . Get that on your system . You know what I mean . So I mean she's happily married now too .
I'm just saying it was just very funny Because they said to her you do know that you're not his type , right , like she was . Like , don't matter , he was fine .
But it's so good looking . I remember her and always .
So she was my best buddy . She was my best friend when we were in Color Guard and St Jesus , Laura was right next to me . Her mom and dad were the people that were who helped take me in . You know what I mean ? Yeah , Laura is badass . She was awesome .
Laura is badass . She was always a good person . She is a good person . She is a good person .
She is a really good person .
I loved talking to you today . I am like what's the word ? Hot , warmed , hot warmed to have this conversation with you guys . You , rick , laura , like we went down memory lane . I can go to bed tonight and do like yeah , well , that's what this whole thing's about ?
It's all about the joy man . I'm not trying to be cheesy , but it really is . That's why I created the show . But I want you look at you and I let's have a phone call this weekend , or we can even do this , but without being live . You know , it's like a Zoom call . We can just kind of catch up and then we'll have you on the show with the group .
That'll be fun . But you can't talk about Color Guard on the group show , because they'll be bored out of their mind , because none of them want to hear how great I am , because they all know me from this side of the power and when I say she's great .
She's great . And let me say this before we sign off Okay , carmen , yes , it is so good to see you , my friend . Oh , thank you , it's so good to see you .
I have not seen you since we were teenagers , I know , and you are just as lovely now as you were back then , and I have never forgotten you and I think you're an amazing lady and , yes , thank you , you are a lady .
Thank you so much . I love you . Thank you so much I love you . I love
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you . All right , we'll be in touch this weekend .
Yes .
Bye , bye , I'm going to start . Oh , I didn't mean to cut him off , but he's going to make me cry . Oh my God , he's going to make me cry .
All right , we're going to sign off , because I was enjoying the Massachusetts accent and I was like I'm waiting to see if Carmen reverts back to it . But you didn't do it .
No , but when I was back home for the funeral , it was like a day and I was all in it . They were all like , oh , finally your accent came back . You know what I mean . But OK , everyone , thank you so much Thank you for allowing us to go down memory lane and thank you for staying and listening , and it really is all about the joy .
All right , we'll see you guys next week . Oh no , we won't , it's .
Thanksgiving , oh Thanksgiving , Happy Thanksgiving everybody .
Happy Thanksgiving everyone . We won't see you next week , but we'll see you the week after for sure , so have a great one , see you . Thanks for stopping by . All about the joy Be better and stay beautiful . Folks , have a sweet day .