¶ Drew Barrymore and TV Show Discussion
I know . Hi everyone . Welcome to all about the joy . I'm so glad you're here . Tony D is in the house . Rick Costa hello . You know . One of the things I realize I forget all the time is I like this is the second time I forget to introduce people . So every time the podcast starts it's just like people , because I just assume everybody knows who we are .
So I know they should agree .
By now . Yeah , and I'm also working on a second part of the website where I'm going to put little it could . I don't know if you've seen it , tony , but your pictures up on the website , so I'm going to put little bios for everyone .
Wow .
You didn't see the website .
The website last week . I'm just messing with you no , right ?
So I'm everybody who's been on the show and , like today , I changed your picture because I had that I know I want . Everybody has a smiley picture and your pictures like gangster or something I don't know , like pretend gangsters .
I just think that from a deployment on that picture . That's why I was .
No , it's a great picture , but it didn't go with the flow , so I changed it all out today and fixed it so , and there's a smiley picture . It's the one I used on this poster , or ?
whatever , it's a little crazy . That's me acting up .
Thank you , no no , no , it was okay . So here's the thing the background that you have , which I appreciate , because , if people don't know , you need to be rested before you go driving , and Tony has a story about that that he's told multiple times and he can tell it again on this show . So I appreciate it .
But what happens is I can't get a clear picture of you because it it like like it phases out the back of your head .
Rick , I want you to remember one minute 45 seconds . She got a clear shot right now .
Okay , but right now .
Okay , and then the fuzziness keeps coming in .
And then your hand and like . So I was looking at a whole bunch of them and no , we don't want a saccata . That face , no , okay , wait , smile , dude , we want smiley face . Okay , so you're going to make me redo the whole thing , but still it's flashing in and out . Dude , it's okay , though I like the background , it's not a big deal .
So , yeah , so we put you up there with a smiley face . Okay , you know what I'm done , rick , how you doing ? Let's just avoid Tony right now .
How was your day ?
Doing good .
Doing good . It's not too bad , it's pretty good so you had a good day .
I was worried about you because usually when I send you a DM I get a message like within an hour like haha or something . So I got worried about you and I had to go on your show to see if you were okay . You didn't respond for like six hours .
I emailed you after you said that and then I was like I'm getting old because I could have sworn . I wrote you back .
That you emailed me back .
Yeah , I really thought again .
It's okay . I was just having issues that I was like all feeling panicked , so okay , the other thing I want to do is update you on a couple of things I watched . I love Lucy . I watched like three episodes . I know the first three .
Honey meds .
Well , unlike Andrea , I did you know . I'm willing to be open and think about it . I was cracking up because I didn't know that Ricky Ricardo I mean I knew he was Latino , I didn't know he played a Latino on the show . You know what I mean .
Like I thought you know , like Martin Sheehan , or as you say , martin Sheen thought he was kind of pretending he was , you know , not Latino because he's Cuban , but yeah , I thought it was . You know , I can see why it works , I can see why it's funny and I understand it's a little bit dated but it still holds up . It's not my thing .
Like I'm not going to watch it .
The reason why you don't enjoy it now is because it's dated .
It actually held up pretty well , especially the first episode , which is the pilot , where they're pretending to be the dates . I don't know if you guys remember what the first episode is , but season one , episode one I forget what the name of it is , but they were celebrating the neighbors I don't forget the neighbors names anniversary or something .
Ethel and the husband seems very cranky and they want to go to the Copacabana , but the guys want to go to the fight or something , and then so they pretend to be these awkward ugly girls . You know , I mean I get why it's funny and the comedic timing which I know you all know is off the hook .
I mean it's pretty amazing , but it's just not my thing and it wouldn't have been back then either .
It's just , you know , when he goes off on her in Spanish , though it's hilarious , but he starts singing in Spanish .
I was shocked by that that he was singing in .
Spanish oh yeah , Back then that was the main comedy , that kind of comedy , honeymooners , everybody . I enjoyed the reruns as a kid .
I don't remember seeing the reruns as a kid . Cool , I'm very happy that I sat through that , but I won't be watching anymore . But it was good . It was good . It was . It's a little too cheeky .
They'll get redundant . After a few episodes , the comedy remained the same the honeymooners did the same thing .
Yeah , it's kind of like when when I was thinking about like comedians of today that kind of give me that same vibe . I really was thinking about kind of like Jim Carrey .
I mean he's funny , it's just a little too cheeky for me , yeah , so anyways , I just wanted to say and Andrea , I hope , is listening in because she needs to watch ET and a field of dreams because I went out there the other update I want to give really quickly , I think everyone knows , is that Drew Barrymore did decide to stop airing her show , so all of
the protesting and all of the ganging up on her for doing the wrong thing worked . Well , we are going to talk about music today . Well , not all day , but I just had a couple of questions . But do you guys anything to add about ? I don't think you guys care about Drew Barrymore at all , but like I think did somebody else also .
They were going to start up again and they decided Jennifer Hudson did not do her show , and then Sherry got COVID , so she's not doing her show but , I , don't know , what that's about . So , but yeah , okay , cool , Okay . So I've introduced you guys , I've done the update on Drew .
¶ Comparing Beyonce and Taylor Swift
Let's talk about music . Here's why I want to bring this up . I don't want to talk about Beyonce and Taylor Swift so much , but have you especially Tony , because I know your way into music right , you love DJing . Is it okay to say DJ ?
Video diss Jackie and I like video music .
Video diss Jackie . Video diss Jackie . Okay , so Taylor Swift and Beyonce this weird . I think it's the media trying to compare them and pick them up against each other , because I would have never in all my life compared these two people , ever at all . And the weird thing is , is Gen Z ain't having it ?
They're not even jumping in the game , you know they're two different genres but they're two of the biggest female musical artists out there , so I give them that , but I doubt if they even got to issue with each other that we know of .
I don't think they don't even compete . As far as concerns Rick , what do you think ?
I mean as little as I know about them , because you know I'm a whole different type of thing , but it's like apples and oranges .
It's just a whole different type of thing . That's what you said .
That's what you said , because I'm in the Christian realm .
You are Okay , you know what you have got to . Stop that you listen to all the same music . You sent me a list of 80s and 90s music that was back then to improve and grow upon himself .
That was the past .
Okay , okay .
Okay .
And then I'm a real Rick . Back then it was different .
Are you spirits ? You don't listen to any music from today .
I don't listen to barely music of anybody . I'm asleep right now .
Okay , really .
Very different than I used to be .
Yeah , All right , well , we'll just take you off the show , because this is going to be a whole thing about music today , so I don't have enough vision though . Do you know who ?
Beyonce , but I mean the little I know about them is they're two completely different genres , two different ways of performing . They're just totally different . So I don't even know why anybody's comparing them in the first place .
Yeah . I think it's a weird thing . Okay , anthony said the only reason they are being compared is because at one time , taylor Swift started out as a country artist . Yeah , that I remember . I like them both . I just think it's like . It's like trying to compare , I don't know . Like Aretha Franklin and Dolly Parton , why would you bother ? There's no like .
People can be great in their own thing of Majiggy . Like there's , there's no need to put them together .
What Thing of Majiggy .
Thing of Majiggy You've never , heard of that , of course .
I have Thing of Majiggy is what you're gonna call us . All of that , yes .
What you're gonna call me , and I'm peachy . What's just in a mood today because I just finished watching . I love Lucy , so I'm thinking old school language . Yeah , that's show . I don't know I get why it was popular , but it's still in my head Like I was kind of annoyed watching it .
Should have . Let us tell you which ones to watch .
No , I'm not going to watch anymore . I've seen all the clips of like somebody sent me the chocolate , when they're working in the factory and oh , this is a hilarious clip . Here's the thing . It's one of those things that I think you had to see before .
Everybody saw it and talked about it , because I think that is a stupid scene and it don't make me laugh at all , and you already know what's going to happen and you know what I mean . So I bring too much to the table .
You are and you're bringing a lot of . Take that as stress relief comedy . Take a bad day and just wanna see somebody be crazy . That's how you enjoy it .
Okay . So here's what I'm gonna . Okay , we gonna . For Rick's sake , we're gonna move off of the music . Here's the thing Slapstick comedy like that stresses me out . It doesn't bring me happiness and joy .
That does not make me happy . I'm curious about that . That's an interesting topic . Why does that stress you out ?
Because it's not what I like . Do you like every genre of television ? Or like do you love horror ? Do you love okay , so ? If somebody says to you you have to watch it or you must watch it . It'll help you feel better or it'll make you laugh or it'll make you cry . What happens you going in your leg doesn't gonna make me cry .
I want you to remember something , okay . Oh okay , and I'm gonna tell you this , this is one topic I wanted to bring up . I actually had a bad day the other day because , look at , Anthony , what's wrong with you , carmen ? Because I'm at work and this song was in my head and I actually got very mad at Rick . How , oh , okay .
I got very mad at Rick . Give us the T , go ahead .
Because I'm at work and for some reason I'm just sitting here . Boop ah , boop ah .
Oh Lord no .
I really can't probably just dead it's ah , ah ah , ah , yep .
No , this is not gonna be a clip this time .
And then the clip came up and I'm sitting here laughing and you were like , no , we don't seem to clip .
Right , I mean , that was . The funny part was that he was a dork and we both were like no , no , no .
No , oh gosh , that was funny . Okay , yeah , but the comedy back then everything was about having fun , acting up and mishaps . Right now , a lot of comedy today is low down , dirty and embarrassing .
I don't know , it's okay , I disagree with you because no problem , look it back in the day like and it's not the I love Lucy back in the day like that's the other thing too . It's hard for me to associate things that I didn't deal with growing up .
Anthony just said I hate horror , but I do appreciate it because it's a form of storytelling , so I can appreciate it . For that I can appreciate it , but I don't wanna watch horror Like I've never watched horror .
Well , I'll deal with you later .
Not weird . Yeah , I'm pulling , but here's my thing . I think I love Lucy is a classic and I can respect it or whatever , but I remember watching things like what was it dynamite ? What was that show with JJ ?
Good times , good times .
Or the Jepperson's . I loved the Jepperson's and you could kind of say there was something kind of slap sticky about George Jefferson , and you know what I mean . That kind of got you a funny laugh track , comedic thing .
Those were very heartbreaking comedies because they pushed the envelope , if you will .
Right , but I can watch those because I remember them and I can relate to them , I think so . I was watching these , especially when I watched the third one . I was trying to figure out . Okay , seriously , I can see why it's funny . I understand why it works . Why doesn't it work for me ? Besides that , it's not my thing .
Yes , I'm doing , anthony , oh my .
Wait , did Anthony just say what I think he's saying ?
Yes , he did .
Now .
I know if .
I ever meet Carmen in person , I'll throw a pie in her face , is that ?
a .
Lucy . Thing .
Yes , it is .
Yeah right .
I was close . Okay , go ahead . I love that Anthony's drinking . You won't be doing that .
Anthony , because you know you are allowed to dream on my show . You know , to dream that you would meet me and be able to throw anything in my face . Wow , it wouldn't be the first time , by the way , that somebody wants to throw something in my face . Yeah .
I mean you do .
You know I can't help it , but I assume it's because it's a comedic thing . But yeah , it's just not my genre . I think that's okay , you know . Yeah , there's nothing wrong with the show . There's a lot of other shows on TV now that I don't watch either , because I just don't think they're funny .
We were all limited to what we had back then . That's why everybody knows us . That's very limited television back then , very limited . It was before you were born .
Why do you guys keep talking like ?
you were there Because I remember a really good story very much 40 years ago .
No , no , wait , wait . I'm talking about when you said I love Lucy . I love Lucy . Wasn't that in the 50s ? Okay , you guys are not old .
It was in the 50s and 60s but , mind you , before cable , a lot of us who didn't have cable , we had a three major networks . Pbs did another independent station , so you only have five channels .
Now , if you didn't watch those on the other channels , you did watch what was gonna be the most entertaining , on the funniest , and back then it was I love Lucy , it was all in the family , it was .
I watched all in the family . I know that I loved .
The honeymoon is all there . Yeah , we had . Take yourself to the mentality of television without cable and the only options you had .
How old do you think I am ? I was born . I didn't have cable . Growing up we had three channels . You're like take the mentality out . That's like well , let me see , I don't even remember when we had pagers . You had pagers like I'm not that young , you had pagers in the 90s .
¶ Discussion on Boy Bands and Aging
I think I am older than both of you . By the way , I'm cuter than both of you , but I think I'm older than both of you . I just wanna be LinkedIn user . I think it's still Robert said back then the remote control was your strength .
You had the antennas with the aluminum foil like this . You had the remote to watch the show . Make sure you had a good day . I did all of that . Yes , you leave it too much .
I do remember having to get up and change the channel and we used to watch you . What was it ? The UH ?
UHF channels .
UHF channels , because that's where all the cartoons were . Yes , Tony . So are you feeling a little bit better than from earlier , from 20 minutes ago ? A little bit .
I'm here . I'm here , I'm trying to behave .
You don't have to behave . Go ahead , let loose Do your thing . Go ahead , let loose Screaming yeah To the gender .
next question number two .
Let it out . Let it out . Okay , well , I'm gonna get away from the . I was gonna talk about music , but you know Rick is all in his Christian stuff .
Rick knows music , Don't Rick ?
is my watcher ? He's my question .
I've been on music broadcasts for the past two years . He knows his music . Let's go .
Okay . So here's my question If I say boy band , you say man . Thank you , Rick , for that very conclusive and in-depth analysis of boy bands .
Gonna be new kids on the block .
Now see , I thought boys to men . Why would you think new kids ?
on the block . They weren't it started .
How about new addition ? How ?
about . New addition was a boy band . I sold them as a group and now a band . You said band . I'm like okay , instruments and all that , like everybody , but New kids on the block and hey Kevin .
New addition were at the same exact time , hey , kevin .
They were .
I'm bringing it up because everyone's making a big deal about NSYNC and they're reunion tour .
Yes , they're reunion tour , but they came out way before new kids on the block . They really did come out before new kids on the block and they came after the Jackson 5 .
And all that To me , boy bands Boy bands is not just the singing , but they're performing and they're dancing and they got choreography where boys to men wasn't so much on that , it was more singing .
Look at you guys defining what a boy band is yeah . Like okay , the official knowledge that you can't say new kids on the block , On the block . New kids on the block and then say that they're a boy band . But new addition , wasn't ? They were exactly the same at the same time .
Here's why I know they're both from Boston and they came out at the same time .
New addition came out way before them . New addition came out way before them .
They were competing with each other at the same time . It doesn't matter who came out first . They were at one point neck and neck because they were in . Boston and there was like a feud , who liked who more or whatever . You know what I mean .
They knew this one about five years ago .
Look at you .
I know I brought them up last time .
I've been there with all .
That's so crazy , ricky Martin .
Now , Ted , that's a good one . I forgot about my noodle . I'm going to give you that . I'm going to give you that yeah , no .
So I look at I , none of these matter to me actually at all . I'm just curious because everyone is making a big deal about in sync and I was like on TikTok , it's all over the place because I guess they're getting together and they're going to have a reunion tour .
Yes , yeah , I don't know how I feel about all those , but you know I appreciate everyone's going to go and buy their tickets .
They have a very huge fan base . They'll make money .
The Jackson five , I think , is the deal that that would be . That would have been incredible . Yeah , you know . Yeah , ok , more questions . Let's see you guys really are not fun at all , you're we are too . Your level is way too down for me . Yeah , I need more energy people . Let's start over . Let's start over .
Ok , what is your favorite genre of music and why ? Good Amric , do not just talk about Christian music . You can say it .
It says genre , there's genre covers everything .
Wait , linkedin user is asking me Carmen Dang , how old are you ? You remember a lot . Look like 30 . Thank you .
Oh , at first I was like offended , but then he said 30s , I was like , oh , you made a point , thank you .
Thank you . Let me give a shout out to Botox . Thank you . Wow , Good skincare and working out which .
I'm not really doing that much . Exercise definitely , exercise and rest definitely .
Exercise , definitely , but exercising your inner spirit . I don't know about 30s , but I appreciate you for saying but , thank you . But 30s is pushing a little bit .
But yeah , I'm in my 50s , I'm in my 50s , I'm embracing the 50s , so but yeah , people get all offended now , like someone called me the other day and they were like , do you always have to talk about Botox ? And I'm like you know why ? Cause I'm sick and tired of people lying about what they do to look good and I bad .
Botox is what you all tend to see and think and hate and I totally get it . But when Botox has done well , you don't notice it . And I give you the examples of you know well , me for one , and I don't do a lot of it , but I do it . But there are plenty of stars , you know .
But let me give you this little nugget how come nobody gets upset or thinks anything badly about people like Dolly Parton and Cher , who have clearly done and embrace everything about what they've done to themselves ? Why ? It's because you respect them and their spirit is on point . You know what I mean .
So I don't lie about using Botox because I want men and women to stop feeling bad about not . I'm not telling anyone to do it , but people should stop feeling bad about wanting to look great . You know and and feel good .
Anthony Davis said old time country and bluegrass music , all of it made music and the entertainment industry what it is today , and it's about good old fashioned values , interesting . I'm not a fan of bluegrass or country . Baby Ooh , I'm gonna throw a pie at you when I meet you . I am I . I love my brother Alden with all my heart .
He lives in Vermont and we're clearly not DNA related , but he grew up in Vermont and so bluegrass . I just want to shoot myself , but I agree with you that it is the background of a lot of music . Kevin Baskin , I use Botox for my grades .
Yeah , that's really good . That's the thing , isn't it , though Don't they do really good ? No , no you can .
I mean , it is for that , but people like to say that instead of you know whatever . I don't mean to make this a show about Botox , unless you guys want to talk about what you could do to enhance your beauty regiment .
No , I ain't gonna mess with what God made right here .
Oh , really , so you don't cut your hair , brush your teeth , why are you wearing them glasses ? If the Lord made you half blind , why are you ?
modeling I'm talking about artificial changing of physicality .
Oh , really , one one one . Do you shave ? Is that artificial ? You're not gonna win this argument with me , go ahead .
Rick though . You don't wanna mess with me ? Do you think I would look good with a big old beard ? I've tried it . It don't look good .
Okay , I'm just . This is what I'm trying to do . This is what I'm trying to say . This is my point . Look at Tony's like . I ain't even gonna go here with her .
I ain't even gonna . I'm going to sleep , I'm exercising and I'm gonna wash my face .
I'm not telling anyone to get Botox , but what you just did right there , Rick
¶ Music Preferences and Personal Style Discussions
, is the point . It makes people feel bad for doing whatever they need to do to feel good about themselves . And the thing is , we all get up every day . We brush our teeth , we fix our hair , we do what we gotta do .
You know what it's saying right , I'm being serious guys .
You know , Women , men dye their hair , people wear makeup , people get their manicures , pedicures , all of this stuff .
Cosmetic .
When you do it for yourself . And we're humans , we're socialized beings . We want to attract other people . It's what we do . Ted Hicks said , rick , why you wear those glasses . You should reply so I can see .
So I can see , and you over here and you over there , I can see , wow .
But I would still respond Ted that he said why am I gonna mess with the way the Lord made me ? We're all messing with the way the Lord made us .
That's not saying that if you want to do something , I'm pro , do whatever makes you feel good . Okay , there you go , thank you very much Okay .
Rick , this is over . Rick , what's ?
your job . I actually really go for R&B a lot , to be honest with you , and what was funny was so when I did become like super uber Christian and I was listening to TV the Christian TV networks everything was country and bluegrass and I'm like I do not like this , but that was all there was , so I got used to it .
And then Tony could relate to this One day Beebe and CeCe Wine and showed up .
I was like thank you .
God , thank you God .
Yeah , they're amazing , okay , so yeah .
I really I have a big lean towards Rhythm and Blues , r&b , but also anything that's kind of dancey , even though I'm not a dancer . But if it's dancey it kind of makes me happy , it makes me in a good mood .
I love gospel music too , like I do love gospel , like you said , you know .
Audio adrenaline Anthony wasn't really into them too much . Dc Talk I was . I did like DC Talk . Wait , wait , wait wait wait , these are Christian bands .
But who are you reading ?
Anthony , Mr Me .
Oh my God , okay , yeah , okay . I bet Rick loves Audio A and DC Talk . So those are Christian . Rick likes salsa . I love salsa . Why is Kevin saying Rick like salsa ?
I said anything . That's dancey , I guess , oh dancey Audio adrenaline . Yeah , adrenaline .
Adrenaline ? Yeah , I don't know any of these things .
I think I've heard of the genre .
It's Christian Audio adrenaline .
But these two , they made me happy , BB and CeCe , where we are .
Yeah , well , we OK , but we all love them because they crossed over into . Well , first of all , it's them , and the first time I knew who CeCe Wynons was was because of Whitney Houston . You know what I mean Like .
So there , was no getting around it . Yeah , they were close .
So , and then , and then , cece Wynons and BB Wynons , they crossed over . What was the song ?
contemporary gospel how many songs .
No , there was a . There was one song that I can't remember it , but it crossed , and if I sang , even hummed it , you'd all know it , but I just don't remember . Up top my head I bet Rick likes jars of clay too .
I don't know what that is it's another Christian one , oh .
OK , and clearly I don't know any of the Christian songs . Ted's like Neo Soul . What does that mean , Neo Soul ? So Ted Hicks and his group is going to have we're going to have a crossover show is still trying to figure out the dates but we're going to have late night parents and our show together . I can't wait , That'll be fun .
I love gospel reggae and reggaeton and cocomelon .
I never heard of cocomelon .
What's cocomelon ?
I have no idea . I know reggaeton .
Reggaeton LaToria , latoria . Yeah , tony , is that how you say it .
The way I see it I see the story . But if it's a story , that's what Rick said , that's how you say it .
Yeah , people on Periscope used to say Lataria . I'm like no , not Lataria .
Where do you see Lataria ?
How did you know ? Almost I was filled . Y'all already know my genre was hip hop , plain and simple . I grew up watched it from its inception . I love R&B . I had to grow to like jazz . Gospel has its moments to me . I'm not the biggest gospel fan , but I'm definitely definitely a hip hop fan Off the road .
What was your favorite hip hop ?
Rapper period .
Hip hop yeah .
Carousel .
OK , what song can you listen to on loop and not get sick of it ?
I would start and I've done this with a lot of songs on road trips . My first choice as of right now is going to be whatever happens about Michael Jackson .
Really ? Oh , I would never have guessed that .
Well , that is a great I actually did on one of my broadcasts that was emphasizing . I said had this song been released on the radio because I never heard it on the radio while he was alive that album would have went down enough for that song alone . That's one of the best songs I've ever heard about him .
I agree with you . With Michael Jackson it's pretty cool , but I would have never guessed that for you . Rick , what song can you listen to on loop ? Even if it's a gospel one , it's all good .
Trying to think what's not a gospel one ?
No , tell us a gospel one , because we have a lot of people who know gospel .
It's going to be corny , but if I , is it about ?
Whitney Houston .
I love me some Whitney .
Houston , I'm sorry . I played it one time . He enjoyed it . Yes .
I would have never . Well , you guys are surprising me so much .
All time . All time , not new stuff . The old time , mariah Carey , what do you mean ?
new stuff , oh , mariah .
Carey , old Mariah Carey . Not the new Mariah Carey , but the new stuff , but the old stuff I like to verse .
If you want to hear a really cool Jamaican reggae band , you should check out the Swanky Kitchen Band . They are very cool . I will totally check it out . I was just listening to . I'm having the worst memory issues today . I don't know why . I think it's because I'm really really tired and I can't see that . Well , you know what I should put on my glasses ?
How about you do that ?
Because I only need them to read , and then they bother me . If I'm looking at you guys , you know what I mean . Oh , you see now .
We're going to go all glasses broadcast Just to help all glasses broadcast . Yeah , because I can't believe see Jesus just left Chicago's easy top .
I don't even know what that means . I don't either . What do you mean ? Jesus just left Chicago's easy top .
The longer my list is growing . I got another song that I can listen to .
Go ahead and tell me , tell me .
Jesus Heaven by Bb and Cc Winers . I love that .
Oh yes , that's really good . I think that's on the CD , yes .
Heaven .
That's the first song .
Yeah , that's the first one . I remember that video , man , please .
Okay , I'll tell you one of the songs that I've been listening to every time I go for a workout . It's the first song I listened to , and even today I was so stressed out I didn't want to go for my walk . I worked all morning and then I had a little break and I went for a walk . It's smile .
Oh yeah , my curtain's right .
It's been my thing . It's been my thing for a few weeks now , Like I . Just it gets me in such a joyful place .
The more positive , more optimistic and more energetic at the same time . Optimistic by sounds of blackness .
Yes , I know that yes .
That whole first CD and before whatever , I have played that on rotation so many times .
Yes .
That whole CD has uplifted me on the whole thing . It's amazing .
Anthony , I hear you and we all know we all love Dolly Parton . But she wrote and produced the song I Will Always Love you as a country song and Whitney Houston is the one that made it famous as a pop song . But let's not forget the rest of that story . Whitney Houston , even though she made it very famous , she did not own the rights to it .
So , as a producer , dolly Parton still got all of this money . And then Dolly Parton took all of that money and put it back into black neighborhoods . I think it was like reading or whatever for kids . I forget what the charity was , but she put that money back into the community . For people of color Like Dolly Parton is queen , there is no question .
¶ Comparing Rappers
I've never heard anything negative about her and I will listen to nine to five and whatever the song she sings , and I have it on my playlist like every once in a while , just to do honor to her . You know , because I remember the movie , remember the 95 , the way to make a living .
Like you know , I don't know much about Dolly Parton music wise , but I got mad respect for her . Ted Hicks said Cheryl Lynn , encore dropped in 1983 . I don't know who that is . Is that a Tony D ? Can you tell us ?
Yes , your love , you're so good . Goods Erzene Encore , Deezers En Encore .
Everybody know that song .
Pull that song up . You know that song ? Pull up that song .
Pull up that song . Everybody know that song . I'm like I'm singing it for a minute 1993 . I was kind of young .
They still play that on a lot of the R&B stations .
Okay , rick , did you pick a song ? Did you pick a song on loop or an album ?
I said I could do a Christian one . There's one called Lifter of my Head . I don't care how bad a mood I'm in If I listen to that song , it's going to shift my mood to good mood .
Sing me a chorus , sing me a song .
It's just kind of repetitive . It's like you are the lifter . You are the lifter of my , of my head , of my head . It's kind of fucking nice .
Always a redhead shake when you sing this Go ahead Woo . Go ahead .
Sing it , sing it .
Yeah , angelo and Veronica . He's Hispanic and she's Italian and married . Yeah , they're white , but you would think they were black .
Yeah , what about albums ? Okay , let me just tell you some of my favorite albums that I can listen to from beginning to end , because this was so Macarena , kevin , get out of here . Get out . Kevin Macarena . I hated that song when it came out and I hated it . I hated it every time I hear it .
I wish I wrote it . Yeah , you'd be making money .
I wish you wrote it because you'd have the money Right . Hey , hey , I wish I wrote it too . Don't mean I want to listen to it . Okay , one of my favorite albums that I can listen to from beginning to end without fail is the Miseducation of Lauren Hill . From beginning to end every song . Not one fail . What about you , tony Rick ?
It's a rap song . I mean it's a rap album . It's about a rap album it's called Nocturnal by a rap group called Heltoskelton . I had played that song .
What's a famous one that I would know ?
La Flora .
La Flora at Schollstein oh yeah , yeah , okay , I got you .
If you know that song , I'm impressed , I am impressed .
I got you . You are a queen , I love rap .
I love rap .
You know , I love rap , I love old-school rap .
You are a queen of Rory . You know what I mean . I was a queen before you heard that .
Come on , I've always been a queen , took my glasses off Me too , because it's so funny , because I can see , like that I can see . It's always going to remind me of Mario when he did that .
No , that was a good . That was a good rap album . This may not be for everybody , but if you're an old-school hardcore hip hop fan Old school .
Yeah , that's old school .
That was 1996 . I remember the first time I heard it I was actually in New York for the summer . I was singing Add to my Sisters and I heard it . I went and got it and I have not stopped listening , even damned it , to this day .
Really Okay .
I haven't heard it in a while .
Yes , Okay , let me ask you this question , and then I'm going to ask Rick too . Okay , tupac or Biggie ?
For me , Tupac .
Yes , not even a question .
I was a Tupac fan . Well , tupac came out before Biggie . He had a little bit of a run before Biggie came out . So those of us who remember before we were Tupac fans , before we were Biggie fans , in all honesty , I mean again .
I mean there was the rivalry between the coasts , right or whatever , and that's fine , but I know , but it's not no more . But here's the thing , the thing I love about Tupac versus Biggie and people who are Biggie fans are going to get mad at me . Biggie a little bit more nasty than I'd choose him to be in his lyrics . You know what I mean .
He's very , very dirty . You know what I mean . And very , very well , they were both misogynist , but I mean it . Just it was the time . But every time I hear a Biggie smile and I'm like listening and I'm like I think Tupac had more of a Biggie had more of a student club , vibe Tupac , had more of a international vibe From what I'm saying .
Tupac was more of a poet too . Biggie was a poet , biggie was a good poet .
I can't talk about his rhymes , it just , and for me and I'm going to say this , this would be probably one of the most controversial things I'll ever tell anybody in the hip hop community there was a time when hip hop needed to change and Biggie was classic hip hop . Tupac was to me oh , you got to think about it like that .
You got to be an old school hip hop head to understand what I'm talking about . Biggie did things the old school way , which was appreciated . We didn't have a problem .
It was appreciated , it was .
Well , for me , as somebody who had moved out and was looking for something different at a specific time , Tupac came with something different that was good . His first CD was good and it hit the new aspect . Okay , here Go ahead .
No , no , no , I'm sorry , I'm sorry .
Biggie gave us a classic aspect that a lot of us who were from that area , region , state were familiar with . To me I had already heard that before and that's this almost . It's a bit , yeah , but you can't take away me .
Big biggie was amazing .
You can't say you just heard Because when he did not from Houston , but I rap a lot I was driving you turn into the record store and got it .
I said no , that's a lot .
That's gonna make me spend money . Between that's the flavoring ear remix , the what and unbelievable , I had to go get his CD .
Okay , you're saying that biggie , that that to pop changed Rap in a different way than what we were listening to before that .
He was different from what I was used to hearing that I enjoyed . The kicker with a lot of these new artists is you got a draw the audience to you to pot drew me with what he did Me specifically personally . I liked when my homies call that was it .
Okay , can I tell you and I'm gonna totally give the cliche to pop answer . The reason why I love to pop even more is Because when he wrote , dear mama , that changed the game cuz it connected . That was like it just Over everywhere . It crossed over and other people could . Rick , do you even know what we're talking about ?
Fagely .
I'm so sorry .
His intellectualness .
Have you ever heard , dear mama ?
I think I've heard it like if you played it then I'd be like , oh yeah , but I can't think of it right now in my head .
Yeah if I played it now , though , then they would delete it off my YouTube , wouldn't they ? I'll send it to you , rick , because it's really it's the song that like .
I say this respectfully Don't send me no DMs about this , but whenever I talk to white people about rap and they're getting all upset about like 50 cent or whatever , or they're talking about vanilla ice , I'm like Lord Jesus , like let me send you a song so you know who to park is , cuz you know they're like oh no , too bad , too much . I'm like okay .
Do not blame Carmen for this . This is nothing against .
Okay so . So here's my question to Tony and Rick , and then we're gonna move off of rap , but I just want to get Tony's idea of Eminem .
One of the best rappers out there , but he can never be the king .
Okay , but why can't he be the king ? And why did you say that that was interesting ? Why ?
people want to make him the best rapper ever man , make him the king of rap . No , he is actually acknowledged . The rappers before him who made him who he was . He will always have that respect . He can be a hip hop guy , but he would not be the hip hop guy . Okay , now about to go on my soapbox . The hip hop guy does rock him and be dead king .
Y'all better stop right now . Y'all better stop right now .
That's all Fighting with . Is it he fighting in his lyrics ?
He's not fighting with anybody .
Eminem Is not have you listened to his latest , that just .
I haven't heard anything .
Oh no , rick , he's all over tiktok right now .
Oh , eminem is .
Eminem is all over tiktok and he's arguing with not arguing .
He's just arguing with Meli Mel . He's on with Meli Mel .
I don't know who he's are . I thought he was .
Meli Mel couple months ago . I know we're talking about on that , meli Mel says something about him and they're going back and forth . Yeah , eminem , the man's sick , the man's a beast . I should get a two hour marathon with a bunch of his songs .
He's hot and that's what he will not put himself above the legends and that's the respect we're gonna give him , and I know but here's okay , but and we don't have to get into this country because I am fighting with nobody , because , again , I don't know why there needs to be Competition or why .
But I think it's interesting because he talks about the reason why he can't ever be . I don't think he says King , but at the top is because he is white , and it's an interesting Controversy to think about . You know what I mean .
Eminem is gonna go down as a hip-hop guy . He will go down as a hip-hop guy .
Oh well , here I mean , there's no denying his talent , his rhymes . Hey , look it Again . I wish we lived in a world where color didn't matter . But it does , and we don't live in that world . And even when we die , it still probably won't be a place where the color of our skin will be like our eye color . It's just not gonna happen .
And I think the thing with hip-hop is is as much as I think that Eminem has , you know . I mean , he's gonna do a rap battle with anyone . It's gonna be something to watch , you know what I mean .
It's gonna be something with him . We killed the racial barrier off of guilty conscience , off of his local content , the guilty conscience of the second song that he came out with . Yes , you killed that aspect off of that song alone , and so many songs afterwards you tend to throw that away to listen to his raps .
Tony , he's not , you need to go on Correct . He's even saying it , I think , because he's getting to the point where I don't think he's angry about it . He's making the point in respect To black artists , but he's saying I will never be the top and it's because of the color of my skin , like I think he's acknowledging the problem of but you know what ?
Look it . I think he is Not just a genius in his lyrical Stuffage . I think he's a genius in that he understands the dynamics of race and how so many Musicians we can talk about Elvis Presley , for example .
We can talk about so many great artists and I'm doing quotes for a reason that stole and did not give credit agreed and that's why I think he is saying that . I don't think he's saying it like I'm angry , I'm mad .
He's saying it like no way he accepts the accolades that he has gotten the level that he is going to the fanfare , the fan base . People want to see him , want to hear him . He has hung on some of the best rappers out past and present , so he's going to be up there .
He just can't be sorry , but when you have Snoop Dogg and dr Dre in your corner , I don't even know what else to say .
He's pretty amazing . Every major rapper respecting him yeah .
If he said , talks about him all the time with just complete love and joy , and I'm just like no , why ?
because he sounded the .
I know , but still , but he's . But he's lived up to the hype , like you can't deny M&M .
You got his respect . That's all you want .
Yeah , you can't deny him he's so good . And somebody was talking to me about like well , what about vanilla ice ? I'm like stop , you're in the wrong .
In the wrong room I think .
I think if every you know happy that everybody said , okay , we all voted M&M , you are the king , he'd be like no , I'm not comfortable with that .
I think , as far as the hip-hop community itself and the way the genre has grown . He came after the greats . Everybody formatted themselves after the originals period .
Yeah but that's what happens all the time right .
Look at . The reason why I pause is I'm gonna have to send you guys a couple of TikTok clips of his latest album or whatever .
That was just recently released not months ago , but just recently and I've been watching them and it's and it's fascinating to me Because he is lashing out and saying things I think out of respect , but also eggnog , like I think M&M believes he is the greatest rapper . I don't think there's anything wrong with that .
I haven't heard an album since 2018 . I see it must be curtain call .
No , no , he has an album out now . He has an album or he's doing something on TikTok because everyone's talking about it . Let me see . Ted Hicks said Carmen , after your show , played Jill Scott's album by popular demand . You can listen to the entire this . I know who Jill Scott is . What's Ted Hicks doing ?
that woman's music is dangerous to me .
Come on now , bobby Samps . You have to be relevant , 24 7 . I am baby , but thank you .
¶ Hollywood Walk of Fame and George Michael
Did he get a star on the walk of fame ? Who ? M&m , I guess , since we've been talking about him if you ain't on the tune or M&M or 5 9 , you ain't Competition , just a fish . You're trying to buy the line . I don't know . Is this a lyric ? I don't know what you're talking about .
Where's the 5 9 ? I don't know who to . I know who works to find I'm . Worse to 5 9 is good . Those two are homeboys . Worse to 5 9 is very good . He's one of the more underrated rappers of hip hop ever , hey obby stamps .
Let me explain . People don't know that the way in which you get a star on the walk of fame , yes , hollywood has to say you can get this , you know . The city of Hollywood has to say it's okay for you to get a star on the walk of fame . However , what people don't know is that you have to pay for that .
So usually a production company or management company , they pay for it . So there's a reason why , like all the people from what was that show with ray Ray Romano ?
what was everybody loves Raymond .
Everybody on ray romano show has a star on the walk of fame Except ray romano , because he refused to pay for yeah . I mean I don't know if that's changed recently , but yeah , I mean , no offense to the walk of fame thing , but I it doesn't mean that much to me anyways , now that I understood that , I learned that when I first moved here .
Latoria , I want to say her name . Right , we're gonna have to talk .
We're gonna have to talk .
There's a difference between the king and a king , because the originals would be crowned the king . We're done with the conversation . Yes , okay , thank you . The clarity is on point . We're done . Thank you , latoria . I know I'm messing up her name . I know that's not how you're not .
No , you're good . That's how Rick said . That's how you pronounce it , latoria .
But have you met her and talked to her in person ?
Who Latoria ? Yeah , she's been on my she literally . Okay , she's been on my broadcast a lot .
I'm saying , do I mean on ? You've talked to her in person and you got the vocal ? How to say her name ?
Yeah , yeah .
Okay , it just don't feel right . I'm not feeling it right . I feel like I'm gonna Latoria . Can you tell me how ? If I'm saying your name right , it just looks beautiful . Look at Tony's all in it . Tony , you can drop out anytime you have the power . I can't believe Like this , like I'm not even sure what it is .
Kevin .
Naske says you have to pay $10,000 a year to maintain . He's talking about the whole block of fame . So yeah , life is bogus . What's that ? Is that an album ?
Bogus .
Bogus bogus . Again . I should put on my glasses . I'm like bogus .
That's Bobby D and Bobby over there .
Yes , rick , and I have spoken and yes , you're doing it right . Okay , thank you , thank you . Okay , thank you , rick . I questioned you . I wanna apologize , oh you're good , I'm so sorry , but you know I have that stuttering problem , so I really feel bad sometimes because I mess up , I hack people's names and it's not intentional . So thank you .
Not intending to bring back Lucy , but there was one where John Wayne . John Wayne . He did the . What do you call it ? Now ? We just talked about the stars . That's the footprint thing , what's ?
it called Hollywood Walk of Fame .
Where you had the footprints right and you signed it the Chinese Man's Theater . So he did that , and then Lucy messed it up . But he didn't know she messed it up , so then she kept trying to get him to stand on some cement so she could fix it .
This was an episode .
This was an episode .
Oh yeah , so I love . But you see , this is Rick's job . He brings us way back to the beginning right at one hour mark . Go ahead , baby , okay . Tony D . Main Source Breaking Adams Entire Disk .
That's old school Looking out the front door . I got you .
So , rick , any albums .
I didn't hear any albums from beginning to end from you because I was talking too much there was this is gonna be a Christian one and it's a worship one , so it's like a church appropriate one , but it's called Heaven on Earth by David and Nicole Binion . And , yeah , I've listened to that a bajillion times , from beginning to end .
A bajillion . Yeah , I also have to give a shout out to one of my favorite artists , who I love . I can listen to his album Faith over and , over and over , and I do it's in my car . George Michael . May he rest in sweet peace . I love George Michael . And what I love about Black Folk is we all love George Michael .
We all love George Michael .
His voice was in the , in the , in the , in the in his ability , and this is what was great about George Michael . The reason why is cause he always , always gave respect and credit where credit was due to Black Folk . And then he went and won , like one of the awards at like , one of the like at the forget what .
What award show it was , but he should not have won right , cause it was in the genre of Black music . And he got up there and everybody was happy for him . Anyways , I'll send you the video clip . I forget .
Yeah , please send me . I never heard of that , the only one I've ever heard .
Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , it was a big deal . I think he won the award that you know every Black artist should have won , and I think he was humbled by that .
You spoke out on behalf of people cool .
I mean , I loved him from day one , but when they were doing their cheesy rap song back in wherever he's from London , they were doing their weird cheesy . It was like in the 80s .
Oh .
Ram yeah Wham you know what I mean .
Wham was jamming , though Wham was jamming .
But they were doing rap . It was so bad . If you go back and listen to it . It's so cheesy but it's fun and poppy and whatever .
Wake me up the fire , you go Well that was later on .
I'm talking about the look at Tony . Tony gets embarrassed for you . It's hard .
No , I have hope . We always do this all the time .
I think Rick is a natural goofball though .
Oh yeah .
Are you really , but why did you put it on the side ?
I get it from my dad .
Did . Did you ever see that movie with Nathan Lane and Robin Williams , the Birdcage , where Robin Williams is on stage and he's trying to explain to the , to the guy that he has to do ? Martha Graham , Martha Graham , you know what ? Madonna , Madonna , you don't remember that ?
Is that the one where you better watch it ?
It was so funny , but it just reminded that because , okay , I'm not going to do a good impression and I don't even know the word . Well , but he goes . Martha , you have to act like this .
This is he's trying to tell the dancer how he has to dance and he says you have to do Martha Graham , Martha Graham , Madonna , Madonna , and then and he says some other ones , and then he goes . But you have to keep it all inside . It's classic Robin Williams , like classic , Cause he's like all over the place , you know what I mean .
And he does all these different ones .
Isn't that the one where the guy who was gay had to pretend he was like straight , but he couldn't really do it ?
So it's . It's not just any guy . Gene Hackman plays the father and the son is going to date the daughter of Nathan Lane and Robin Williams , characters who are married . By the way , this is back in the day before . This was an okay thing , you know what I mean ?
That was in the 80s , wasn't it ?
I think it was like nine , 80s or early 90s .
It was 89 , 90, .
yeah , and Gene Hackman plays the father and he has to dress in a , in a outfit of a woman Like he . You know what I mean ? He dresses in drag , basically , and to get out of where he's in . So it's , it's just a really fun . I think I'm gonna watch that movie again 1996 , my apologies .
Oh yeah , it was , I did see that .
Yeah , I did see that Later than when I thought it was .
It was really funny , and I mean I'm sure it's a little bit dated now , but I mean Robin Williams , I love him oh he's another woman .
He was the best actor's ever .
Just such a good , funny person , yeah , and he was a little sticky for me too , but I loved him , so it didn't matter , you know . And I loved him because I remember when the three of them you know , I love people who do charity stuff Whoopi Goldberg , robin Williams , billy Crystal , billy Crystal .
Billy Crystal . Billy Crystal Whoopi , goldberg , robin , the Common Relief , billy Crystal Right Classic , yeah , and they were raising money all the time for homeless people .
They were amazing , so , but I can't believe we're past the hour . This is so much fun . I'm done with y'all , though . I'm ready to go .
We got a hundred messages . We got a hundred messages .
We can stay on a little bit , but is Ted calling you ?
There's coming on . Next , just use .
Yeah , so I am going to cut it off so that we can have Ted do his show . The Bird Cage is a remake of the French film called the La Cage à Foules .
I can't say La Cage à Foules .
Thank you . Thank you , tony . Both are comedies about drag queens at burlesque shows Exactly Fantastic , thank you . Hey , everyone , thank you so much for stopping by . I appreciate you all . It is always so much fun . Please check out the website . I'm going to let you go , tony . Go do your thing with Ted .
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