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Case File 376-The Trump Assassination Attempts

May 04, 20261 hr 21 min
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On a sweltering July afternoon in the heart of Pennsylvania, the cadence of a political rally was shattered by a sound that hadn't echoed in American civic life for over forty years. In a matter of seconds, the line between a campaign event and a national tragedy blurred as a sniper’s bullet grazed the ear of a former president. But the events in Butler were only the beginning. From the dense shrubbery of a Florida golf course to the chaos outside a Washington gala, a series of increasingly brazen security breaches has left the world asking: how did the most protected man on earth become the most frequent target? 

Were these failures the result of an overstretched agency in a polarized era, or are we witnessing a fundamental breakdown in the "invincible" shield of the Secret Service? With each new revelation—from foreign murder-for-hire plots to armed intruders at Mar-a-Lago—the stakes for the 47th presidency have never been higher. Is the system designed to protect the commander-in-chief still capable of holding the line, or has the perimeter finally been breached for good? 

This case file, join the Theorists as we analyze the ballistics and trace the tactical failures in…The Trump Assassination Attempts





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[SPEAKER_00]: On a sweltering July afternoon in the heart of Pennsylvania, the cadence of a political rally was shattered by a sound that had an echoed in American civic life for over 40 years. [SPEAKER_00]: In a matter of seconds, the line between a campaign event and a national tragedy blurred as a sniper's bullet grazed the ear of a former president. [SPEAKER_00]: but the events in Butler were only the beginning.

[SPEAKER_00]: From the dense shrubbery of a Florida Gulf course to the chaos outside of Washington, Gala, a series of increasingly brazen security breaches has left the world asking, how did the most protected man on earth become the most frequent target?

[SPEAKER_00]: where these failures, the result of an overstretched agency in a polarized era, or are we witnessing a fundamental breakdown in the invincible shield of the secret service, with each new revelation from foreign murder for higher plots to armed intruders at Mara Logo, the stakes for the 47th presidency have never been higher.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is the system designed to protect the commander and she's still capable of holding a line, [SPEAKER_00]: In this case file, join the theorists as we analyze the ballistics and trace the technical failures in. [SPEAKER_00]: The Trump assassination attempts. [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to Alien Theory's theorizing case five three seventy six. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Brad. [SPEAKER_05]: It's hell. [SPEAKER_05]: I did. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm Andrew.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is there, do you guys think there's any market for like just live stream naps? [SPEAKER_04]: Mark up for everything. [SPEAKER_05]: Like we come in here, we all like, you know, say like our affirmations to each other and then we just get tucked in. [SPEAKER_05]: It's people who are just people who are just sleep for two and a half hours. [SPEAKER_03]: What's the, yeah, what's the people? [SPEAKER_03]: But what's the sound one again? [SPEAKER_03]: The ASMR.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: What are people have like ASMR for sleep apnea? [SPEAKER_03]: Then you make a fucking pond. [SPEAKER_03]: It would be fucking rich. [SPEAKER_03]: Or they could they place bets on how long you're going to be happening for? [SPEAKER_03]: Paulie Market. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Father, I want to take Braden to breathe. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I told you guys that someone did that in the studio, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Someone paid for like four hours of time. [SPEAKER_05]: What? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: To fucking nap? [SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember. [SPEAKER_04]: They actually had a pretty decent following in the hundreds of thousands of followers on YouTube. [SPEAKER_04]: And no, not a nap. [SPEAKER_04]: ASMR.

[SPEAKER_04]: They would eat food and like make mouse sounds and [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's my biggest fucking pet peeve whenever you see those like I sat here and play you all Do ones and they like you hear everything they do You got to make the sound of it like getting thrown in the bowl and every you know or like just stop getting and like fuck it shut up I hate it Making a very wait and it's like fully [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like, but they make like the certain sounds with it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like you can do like they're going other way like it wouldn't normally fucking be that loud. [SPEAKER_03]: Like the sounds are all accentuated. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like fully like everything they do in like video and stuff they make the sounds larger in life. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's more like it's arrogant. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, yeah, it's more too much noise to shout out. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the fucking cramogen when it comes to that shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, tonight we're talking some attempts on the old Donald [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to start the episode with like we've gone back to making sure that you hate the government matter what side all right. [SPEAKER_04]: That's our that's our take. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah the government the worst words in the human language. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the government. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm here to help. [SPEAKER_04]: Doesn't matter what side doesn't matter who it is.

[SPEAKER_04]: They all got their own like an ulterior motive. [SPEAKER_04]: We got we got to get back we got to get back to this hating the government. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's all the same anyways. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm fucking getting control by the same people. [SPEAKER_03]: Come on. [SPEAKER_04]: It's all the same. [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing happens. [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing's different. [SPEAKER_04]: People is getting mad. [SPEAKER_04]: It's all the same people. [SPEAKER_04]: Relax.

[SPEAKER_04]: So tonight we're talking about that. [SPEAKER_05]: And they're doing a good job. [SPEAKER_05]: The last eight years have been good because it's been entertaining, right? [SPEAKER_05]: We had weekend at, weekend at Bernie's for four years, and now we have a fucking comedian up there every day, making, with that, making bad action movies. [SPEAKER_05]: He Fox, post-and-pictures of himself is a doctor. [SPEAKER_05]: It's retarded. [SPEAKER_05]: He pretended to be a doctor.

[SPEAKER_05]: Wasn't he supposed to be a Jesus? [SPEAKER_03]: He thought he was a doctor, Andrew. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm looking for the red cross. [SPEAKER_03]: That's funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't get upset because we're going to fucking trash both sides. [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's getting. [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's getting some. [SPEAKER_04]: We're punching everyone. [SPEAKER_03]: We're punching up. [SPEAKER_03]: We're punching down.

[SPEAKER_05]: unfollow or you delete your patreon make sure you mention I'm at it them because they may find a both not just one yeah yeah everyone gets a fair taste everybody yeah so we're talking about assassination attempts i mean obviously the first week you know we can't we're gonna start with the big one the one in the election right butler right like that's when we're going with like

[SPEAKER_05]: That's an insane one because like we said when it happened, you know, you stand up fight fight fight fight I was like like I fucking what that was the great that was the most cinematic fucking thing I've ever seen in the history of it

[SPEAKER_05]: any president ever like that was crazy well listen and honest honest to god like why wouldn't you want to vote for him because he's Wolverine because no one else could repair a fucking year uh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a fucking shitty white belt that has been doing jiu-jitsu for like fucking a year and a half and have you seen my ears? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a geosa They're f***ing cute Did you fix it? [SPEAKER_03]: Right? [SPEAKER_03]: Couple of couple of dumplings Let's see what's all wrinkly can you see it? [SPEAKER_03]: It's all good in there [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, you're doing a terrible job. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, hard to tell.

[SPEAKER_03]: And now it's going, it's going on the other side. [SPEAKER_03]: But like, and you're, mean to tell me a GSW to the year, and you were a Band-Aid for a week, and you build that thing off and you're good. [SPEAKER_03]: Like go on a road and you go, that's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: It's good. [SPEAKER_05]: There's no, like, because I thought, I was like, you were the Band-Aid show. [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, maybe they'll show it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he's going to have a fucking half a year or something cool. [SPEAKER_05]: And then like later on, I was like, oh, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_05]: his ear is fully recovered, you know, like, let's bring water. [SPEAKER_05]: And they showed all the videos of like, oh, they got he turned his head to praise, praise the Lord that he turned the head just in the nick of time. [SPEAKER_05]: And it nicked his ear. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, that thing would have fucking the shock wave.

[SPEAKER_05]: It would have blown your ear part. [SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen the videos of what that bullet does to ballistic gel like When you make the ear, it's just like Boom, like spares like as big as the head and the biggest thing I think people are forgetting too like this is not just some fucking President, right? [SPEAKER_03]: This is a fucking [SPEAKER_03]: W. W. E. Hall of Famer. [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to tell me that guy didn't have a blade hidden in a sleeve.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: He went down the bleed for the presidency. [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone, when he went down, when I was like, he's like, we need some color. [SPEAKER_05]: We need some color. [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck it's a color. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: But let's go through it. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go through the entire thing because it's actually insane.

[SPEAKER_04]: So the big event was at Butler Pennsylvania and the big one they call it, the biggest [SPEAKER_05]: Because when you've ever seen, no one's been almost assassinated better than me. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, that's the one everyone knows. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's been almost assassinated as many times as he has, though. [SPEAKER_03]: No, dude. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just the president that's had the most attempts on his life by far. [SPEAKER_05]: But he's the road runner.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And that left is that dang old, wily, coyote. [SPEAKER_05]: They just can't get him. [SPEAKER_05]: Right, so this one was, you know, we'll get a McDonald's. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a McDonald's and Diet Coke's every day. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a lady delivering fucking cheeseburgs to the White House is the one that's going to get them. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's pissed.

[SPEAKER_05]: So this one was, I like the thought of that, all this security is just getting regular door dashers are dropping off the order. [SPEAKER_04]: No security clearance. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't need that. [SPEAKER_04]: Just fucking pop the White House. [SPEAKER_04]: Doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_05]: They're like, they're like, listen, no one get Trump any more fucking McDonald's. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, then he's just door dashed himself to the front door.

[SPEAKER_03]: You said, like, this is the big one, right? [SPEAKER_03]: You said it takes place in Pennsylvania. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Butler Pennsylvania, which is super important, I think, because this is also Butler Pennsylvania, the time was a must-wing swing state. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_04]: The whole swing state states is like, if you win those states, you win the elections, that would it is?

[SPEAKER_03]: That's where everybody has upside down pineapples on their doors and they fuck each other. [SPEAKER_03]: They fucking, everybody's fucking in Pennsylvania, everybody's fucking in Pennsylvania. [SPEAKER_04]: But the swing states are like, it's such a weird system in the states, like, you get awarded like seats based on the whole state, right, then?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's yeah, like a electoral, [SPEAKER_01]: in the way the electoral college works like certain states have like more like tore-off-worlds than other states that's it's stupid system and these ones go sometimes go one left someone with the other yeah so there's like you know depending on which way the state goes like if it

[SPEAKER_01]: might affect the Lexus like if there's a slight majority on one side then yeah then it's like boom like that you get all of those votes you get all those electoral college votes from that so it's very important state yeah so it is one of the important states to win and right so this guy so the guy who shot Trump and then was [SPEAKER_04]: shot by secret service and killed. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, immediately after just almost like he waited for them to shoot, we'll get to that.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was Thomas Cook. [SPEAKER_04]: He fired eight rounds from an AR 15-style rifle from a slightly sloped roof about a hundred and what? [SPEAKER_04]: 130 meters, 150 yards, something like that. [SPEAKER_04]: miraculously Trump turned at the last second and it skimmed his ear as we were talking about. [SPEAKER_04]: And it didn't even hit the ear. [SPEAKER_04]: It was like the a little nick. [SPEAKER_04]: He got nicked.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, are they sure that it was the boy or was it sharp? [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's the one thing. [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's I think that's the conclusion. [SPEAKER_01]: The conclusion that the game too was like it was

[SPEAKER_01]: a gunshot but they're also like yeah it's either but my night couldn't been a full bullet it could have been a frag like a flag or something was in the way I'm telling you right first it was at first I thought it was the way they thought it was like a piece like the telepont prompters shattered they thought it was epic and all the tele well all the tele prompters were intact after they after they was the fucking razor blade that you pulled on oh yeah well they said could have been a fragment of a bullet

[SPEAKER_01]: like it could have been that kind of winged them, uh, something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: But uh, I think that was like pretty much like it was a bullet or part of a bullet that caused the injury.

[SPEAKER_05]: which we never got to see every single time did we get to see the injury not a stitch not a glue job not a pleasure not it not the scar and the ear is fine now the way it's great like it's all you really see in the image too is just like red coming from his ear and then streaming down his face and that's pretty much the only glimpse of you get of any type of wound [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then, and so he gets shot, you know, he gets, there's this big huddle, secret service agents, huddle over top them within seconds. [SPEAKER_03]: He pops his head back out with a fist in the air, fucking rocky style and pumps it three times. [SPEAKER_03]: I fight fight as miraculously, the crane slowly drops the American flag down in the [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, search it. [SPEAKER_03]: Rounding up all the press. [SPEAKER_03]: Bring it in. [SPEAKER_01]: Round them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Push it really grabs them and pushes them to the front so they can get a picture of this. [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's fucking, and listen, if you think we're, go back straight in it. [SPEAKER_03]: Go back to literally photo evidence of this. [SPEAKER_03]: Go back and watch. [SPEAKER_03]: You can see the pushing. [SPEAKER_03]: What else with this guy doing? [SPEAKER_03]: He literally pushes them right back up to the front, which is like the danger zone to get pictures of this.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is a potentially masked casual these situation. [SPEAKER_04]: fucking bringing people to the front. [SPEAKER_03]: And how long ago was this? [SPEAKER_03]: How many years ago was this? [SPEAKER_04]: Two years? [SPEAKER_03]: Almost just 2012. [SPEAKER_03]: This is 2024. [SPEAKER_03]: Do we know anything more about fucking crux? [SPEAKER_05]: We know nothing about him. [SPEAKER_05]: We know nothing about manifesto. [SPEAKER_05]: There's no clear ideological driver.

[SPEAKER_05]: The motherfucker didn't even have utensils in his apartment. [SPEAKER_03]: And also he had the only uncrackable phone [SPEAKER_04]: At first, I didn't know anything about this guy because there was no media coverage, but if you go into commercial, I forgot about that. [SPEAKER_04]: There was, there is some stuff about leading up to it. [SPEAKER_04]: There is seemingly like he was being, he was turning himself or he was being turned into this like crazy government, they would say.

[SPEAKER_04]: So if you go back, I think I got a little timeline. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's July 3rd is when then you saw one peppy the frog meme and that was it. [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess the sky over the years before is like his family didn't even realize he was kind of turning to this person. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what's one of weird things. [SPEAKER_04]: His dad's on record saying he didn't really know anything about his son leading up to this event like he kind of lost contact.

[SPEAKER_05]: But pretty much, but he that's an ammo though. [SPEAKER_05]: If your kid all of a sudden shoots someone, you're not going to be like, what the, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to be like, I had no idea. [SPEAKER_05]: I had nothing to add. [SPEAKER_03]: He's crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: Another. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, I'm just in play. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not even sure he's my kid. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: That proved it. [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So he, he, I guess he, I went and looked into it and there is like a little bit of build up more than this like we don't know nothing. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's interesting because like you're going to get into his internet history, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the first things that came out when they announced who it was was the fact that he had literally no social media, anything with the FBI right away.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, this guy's nowhere. [SPEAKER_03]: He's a ghost. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know anything. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's got no online accounts, nothing. [SPEAKER_03]: And then later, obviously, they figure out what's eligible to talk about. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So it just it starts out with like he actually goes into tens like a different rally at the same same spot, a butler farm showgrounds. [SPEAKER_04]: a rather angelic third.

[SPEAKER_04]: He searches for, they have all its internet history and they use using VPNs and by they've now, it's all kind of public. [SPEAKER_04]: He searches for when Trump's going to be close. [SPEAKER_04]: He figures it out. [SPEAKER_04]: Then he visits, oh sorry, I took out the backwards. [SPEAKER_04]: Then he visits the same, the, the Butler Farm Show, which is going to be the same spot that this rally is going to be attended or this rally is going to be put on.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's examining the photos. [SPEAKER_04]: July 12th, he goes to the Clareton Sportsman Club Rifle Range, so it's 50 miles south of Butler, kind of like a final practice session he got. [SPEAKER_04]: He got this rifle from his father, I guess, is AR-15 style rifle, and he's going to practice at the range. [SPEAKER_04]: And so July 3rd, or July 13th, was the day of the shooting.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is where like the, even originally when I was hearing the time, I was like, this makes no, how was this impossible? [SPEAKER_04]: He visits the site for the third time. [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess two times before he had gone there for different events and kind of been poking around. [SPEAKER_04]: He flies a fucking drone. [SPEAKER_04]: for like hours ahead of the event at 9 a.m. he goes into flies drone for like the entire length of the battery.

[SPEAKER_04]: So whatever, as 20 minutes, 30 minutes. [SPEAKER_04]: He maps the whole stage layout, sight lines, he returns home. [SPEAKER_04]: He comes back at 11 a.m. he spends an hour walking around the grounds. [SPEAKER_03]: He's like a rangefinder. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he spotted walking near the AGR building. [SPEAKER_04]: Like the rooftop where he's going to fire like a climb up and fire from. [SPEAKER_04]: He's later at 11 a.m. [SPEAKER_04]: At one PM, he goes home, gets his gun.

[SPEAKER_04]: He tells his father he's going to the range. [SPEAKER_03]: He buys 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store. [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he's been there multiple times that day, it's like, one of those things were just like, fuck, I really hope somebody catches me and I don't have to do this. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like you're like, it's insane. [SPEAKER_04]: Why does it be one of the greatest security services to any, how do I buy a country in the world?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're supposed to be here. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they haven't been for a reason. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: Like, this is someone not clock a fucking drone. [SPEAKER_05]: You're like, who's drone is that? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I feel like, it's actually like, I guess like dude, if you flying a drone in town like in Campbell River right now, like someone's coming a fucking be like, who's drone is this? [SPEAKER_03]: Get it in here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, dude, you're getting shot out of the sky. [SPEAKER_03]: You, the fucking Amazon drones are under attack, man. [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not safe. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's on high alert for those fucking things. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's just, I mean, it's fucking, that's weird enough. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you got a guy coming and looking through them basically, I'm on a goal. [SPEAKER_03]: How does no one clock?

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's crazy to me is that this kid has done this much prep. [SPEAKER_03]: He's done it in the same amount of prep. [SPEAKER_03]: They do end up getting his internet history that's always going to talk about. [SPEAKER_03]: And they also find that he's been like searching mass casually events. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been looking up like Lee Harvey Oswell, all the suspicious red flag shit.

[SPEAKER_03]: So he's been doing his homework, he's researching, he's researching other events, he's canvas the fucking area, he's gone and practiced at the fucking shooting range, a ton. [SPEAKER_03]: And then he goes to do, you know, the biggest thing in his entire life, the thing he's been prepping for forever. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't even have a scope on his gun. [SPEAKER_03]: Not fucking weird. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's got iron sights.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you have 150 yards isn't that far of a shot on that. [SPEAKER_04]: Why can't you not come off though? [SPEAKER_04]: You can't knock it. [SPEAKER_04]: If you have iron sights, they're set. [SPEAKER_04]: If you have a scope, you can knock it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you fuck. [SPEAKER_05]: If you, if you, if you, if you do everything, you could humanly pulse later. [SPEAKER_04]: Sure, you're going to be still on his laser bullets. [SPEAKER_04]: He's nine years later.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's too late. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's keep going through it. [SPEAKER_04]: Because then later in the day, his parents report a missing.

[SPEAKER_04]: which is also weird that yeah that's why the day off of work i guess he works from our close to this and from all accounts it was like a he worked out like an old folks home doing like it's in this kind of adult that lived on his own yeah because it's he's doing like he's working for old folks on doing like dietary planning or something and all like how long how long until if you go fucking if you vanished how long do you parents report you missing

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I mean, he's an adult. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why would you never report me missing. [SPEAKER_03]: Is that even when you're in your 20s like this kid, they wouldn't get a fuck. [SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't get a fuck. [SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't get a fuck. [SPEAKER_03]: He's probably gone. [SPEAKER_05]: Five years, your dad's like, yeah, he's good. [SPEAKER_04]: I live 10 minutes for my parents. [SPEAKER_04]: If I didn't seem for a month, they'd be like, huh?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's why he's next, is that weird that they reported a missing? [SPEAKER_04]: And it was in it afternoon. [SPEAKER_03]: That's strange bizarre. [SPEAKER_05]: And then later that day, strange to be that concerned with your son. [SPEAKER_05]: And then be like, I had no idea this was coming. [SPEAKER_05]: But if he's gone out of my sight for longer than the three hours, I'm calling the police. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And then later that day.

[SPEAKER_04]: So this is when he, so early in the day, he does all this pre-planning. [SPEAKER_04]: He gets the gun later in the day. [SPEAKER_04]: He's spotted on the grounds again with a range [SPEAKER_04]: a local law enforcement sniper notices crooks not part of the secret services actual part of like the actual like pd of the area. [SPEAKER_04]: He says he's acting suspiciously on the suspiciously on the rap rally premiere perimeter looking as phone holding a range finder.

[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think he's fucking doing? [SPEAKER_03]: It's insane. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: This guy sends a message to the sniper group. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess there's like a group of the law enforcement flagging. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? [SPEAKER_03]: That's just a group. [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that fucking weird on the roof. [SPEAKER_04]: Flagging this is suspicious. [SPEAKER_03]: Too bad. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of a slope.

[SPEAKER_03]: We can't get up there. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess he sends two photos of Crooks. [SPEAKER_04]: The warning is not relayed to agents of like the actual like secret service guarding the stage. [SPEAKER_04]: Like. [SPEAKER_04]: So in the end, they're like, this is a complete failure of law enforcement and all levels blah, blah, blah, no one communicated. [SPEAKER_04]: which is true has to be, but someone reported in and didn't get through later in the day.

[SPEAKER_04]: So a little bit later, butly county emergency services unit, counters, sniper, text, the secret services finally still no unified response and officers began relieving their posts to search for crux. [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, we had a guy, he's suspicious, finally it's so we're like 20 minutes later before they actually do anything. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like fuck man.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at him through my scope and he was doing fucking finger blast pretending to think my rifle doing the next the next life right in so 15 minutes rage 15 minutes later after there's still no unified unified command like they don't still don't really know who's supposed to do what Trump takes the stage and then just a few minutes later then they lose sight of of crux

[SPEAKER_04]: and then crux is captured on a roofed up on a like by the up please dash cam footage captures him in position. [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess at this time, a officer goes up onto the roof and confront some crux points the gun in him. [SPEAKER_04]: He like falls down the ladder and then [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and there's videos of like members of the public during this time being like there's a guy with a gun He's not on the roof. [SPEAKER_04]: He's right there Officer Climes ladder.

[SPEAKER_04]: I heard is I was what's good. [SPEAKER_04]: I have this guy's name. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm his name He climbs a ladder at 6.13 p.m Sees crooks up there. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like oh fuck cook points a guy at him. [SPEAKER_04]: He jumps down [SPEAKER_04]: and then in pretty much immediately after that at 615 shots fired 8 rounds from the r15, one miraculously trump turns at the right time, whatever hit the teller pump, hit something or whatever, clips the ear,

[SPEAKER_04]: uh... one firefighter is tragically killed in the event uh... have his name i feel like i can share it to the sea can't tonight or something like that yeah compared to the air yeah compared to the real story come compared to the compared to the compared to the [SPEAKER_04]: RIP. [SPEAKER_04]: So he's there's nothing to rally around like a fucking firefighter. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I guess like the story is like he heard the shots. [SPEAKER_04]: He covered his wife and kids and he died.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, during the fucking thing. [SPEAKER_04]: I as you do. [SPEAKER_03]: Like you didn't you noticed like if you looked in any of the stuff with both like the difference the different sounds with the gun shots don't really add up. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've heard I kind of just like three different gun shots. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I heard sounds. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, heard some stuff about the seismic forensics. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, not seismic, uh, audio forensics.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're saying like, they were initially caught by like CNN, because CNN was there, and they, they captured the fucking sounds. [SPEAKER_03]: And they were, you know, they analyzed it and they're like, it's definitely multiple guns. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just two. [SPEAKER_01]: They're, they find the eight casings from his gun to confirm that it was. [SPEAKER_01]: That all eight rounds are for him. [SPEAKER_04]: He definitely fired eight rounds from his gun.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what they said at least. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's five. [SPEAKER_03]: There's eight shots sounds too. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, so just saying. [SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, no. [SPEAKER_04]: I think they write down. [SPEAKER_04]: They found eight shells. [SPEAKER_04]: And then it was, I think it was only a few seconds, like five seconds later, four seconds later.

[SPEAKER_04]: But they're county ESU returns fire and they actually hit the rifle out of his hands So preventing him from shooting marks. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess he had that can extend magazine or double magazines or whatever He was gonna keep shooting so they shot within four seconds Shot the rifle

[SPEAKER_05]: And then that's an insane thing too because it's like you got to remember the roof He's on is also staging like local is it is at the local one of the law enforcement staging in the building He's on Right, so it's This guy's firing to where he's like these might be friendly like within four seconds no thought You know what I mean just like boom god

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they shot at the gun first, they didn't kill him and then another like 14 seconds past and then a secret service sniper, I guess shoots him and they're like, and this is fucking like between the eyes. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they're like, oh dude, it's like, you know, it's a one in a million shot. [SPEAKER_04]: He could just see the top of his forehead and the top of the scope and he put up like a perfect bullet, but he waited that long.

[SPEAKER_04]: The way to all the, it all happened and then took him out. [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Or are they on like separate radio channels? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not the whole like setup was not like that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a awesome fuck-up of all. [SPEAKER_03]: It's too much fucking up to even- It seems like a bad action movie. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's not, but it's also feels like, to me, it kind of feels like a fucking script that we've read before.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the fallings act. [SPEAKER_03]: They, you grab the fucking awkward weirdo. [SPEAKER_03]: That's got no friends that lives isolated the insult type guy. [SPEAKER_03]: And you train him up and get him to fucking do an assassination. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and then if you shot the gun out, was he were like white kill him 40 seconds after like why not get You know, we don't know where he forgot fucking explosives on them.

[SPEAKER_03]: You have all this other shit, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Like don't take any chances. [SPEAKER_03]: We had that. [SPEAKER_03]: You shoot to kill, right? [SPEAKER_03]: You don't just shoot to fucking knock a gun out of his hand. [SPEAKER_05]: But partner, you shoot to change behavior. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't shoot to kill. [SPEAKER_04]: explosives to like I guess we're found he had him in his car.

[SPEAKER_04]: He had him in his house and I guess there was internet search history he had I guess that goes the story had been planning these like IED explosives that were never obviously used. [SPEAKER_03]: But when are we getting it like listen we've we've talked about gun control of type of all shit. [SPEAKER_03]: When are we just going to be like okay listen can't do five pushups has a neck beard doesn't have a girlfriend's fucking weird can't get a gun. [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[SPEAKER_03]: We need to start being more strict with these fucking weirdos that are getting guns. [SPEAKER_03]: Like you just, you know, can you run a 5k? [SPEAKER_03]: No? [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have friends? [SPEAKER_03]: Do you, are you a social person? [SPEAKER_03]: Can you have a conversation? [SPEAKER_03]: Are you normally really sweaty and like fucking hanging on playing video games too much? [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe should not have gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd rather without like half the U.S. military. [SPEAKER_01]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Could do any of them guns. [SPEAKER_03]: That's like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I just, they're all, these guys all looked, they're all the same. [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_03]: Why are we picking these little doorky banchering candidates then? [SPEAKER_03]: What is going on? [SPEAKER_04]: If you're scared of, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they got that fucking part of the brain that we talked about with, uh, wasn't he? [SPEAKER_04]: Nolan? [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm part of the brain that's been rearranged by UAP, yeah, maybe perhaps, but so here's here's the stuff that they point to like, so that AGR building was where he was shot at and that was under local law enforcement. [SPEAKER_04]: jurisdiction, I guess authority.

[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't check the roof for whatever reason, even though they were staged in that building underneath, they didn't check the roof. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay. [SPEAKER_04]: There was no unified command. [SPEAKER_04]: So the local teams weren't corresponding with this secret service and it just was a whole mess There was like that war that original warning from the police sniper was this ignored. [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, eh It's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: Fucking Steve.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a guy on a roof. [SPEAKER_04]: There's guys walking around with a range finder What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess even like people in the crowd even said they seen him on the roof. [SPEAKER_04]: Some people said like, I thought he was a cameraman. [SPEAKER_04]: So people seen this guy in the roof just regular people's peculiar camera. [SPEAKER_04]: I just just regular people on the day seen him on the roof.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, oh, I guess if I can see him, that must mean someone. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're obviously, like, I mean, no CDIA and super service. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's all alone. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe he's a counter sniper or whatever. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what you maybe would think if you seen him up there. [SPEAKER_05]: That's just what everyone thought.

[SPEAKER_05]: everyone like oh it must be playing so it's basically it's like the guy that walks into the concert with a good ladder in the construction fucking vest on or we get a high vis vest and did we walk with a ladder at a point to get he did walk with a ladder right that's not a ladder that day and brought it to that fuck so that's I mean that just goes show you bring a ladder into whatever you want but like that is no amount of security that bringing a ladder

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you were all connected on the same radio frequency, and that officer who went up on the roof, I was like, Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_04]: And then he was scared off. [SPEAKER_04]: He fell back down if you did. [SPEAKER_04]: It was still like another bunch of seconds before Trump walked up. [SPEAKER_04]: You like that would have been an instant like fucking. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, stop whittin' this, whittin' this, be these guys is like fucking super-woldo.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, when you, like, I don't understand, you're, you're guarding an ex-president, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is, you think everybody would be like, the big leagues. [SPEAKER_03]: Locked fucking in, ready to go. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is fucking crazy incompetent man. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, and then you got another thing that happened is at the time what was our name Kimberly Cheetle. [SPEAKER_04]: You've seen the videos of her like reaching for the gun.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's so scared and nervous. [SPEAKER_04]: She can't get to gun out like it's this absolutely mess. [SPEAKER_04]: She finally originally says she did everything right. [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't check. [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't have guys in the roof because the roof was too high of a two. [SPEAKER_04]: I have a slow, yeah, it's dangerous the rope with this roof is like four degrees.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was nothing Yeah, I understand that our job is to jump in front of fucking bullets, but that slope not Not a rich guy's ankle and then the guy this counter sniper like [SPEAKER_04]: who actually find that great a slope. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, show would be all over that. [SPEAKER_03]: We can't be five. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not good. [SPEAKER_03]: But the guy who took them out. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the guy who took out crooks.

[SPEAKER_04]: The slope was like, he was on like a 15 degree slope. [SPEAKER_04]: He was stationed up there. [SPEAKER_04]: He was on a different route on a higher slope. [SPEAKER_04]: Killed the guy, the assassin on the roof with the low slope that they're like, well, we can't go up there. [SPEAKER_04]: It's too high for slope. [SPEAKER_04]: None of it made sense. [SPEAKER_04]: She had finally resigned off me as you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you maybe just realize this job, like let's say this is all legit and everything like this job isn't for you If you're gonna be shitting your pants in that situation like this is when you're supposed to be fucking leap in an action Yeah, and yeah, it's just to be honest like if you're in charge of the like a security event, and then the fucking you know The ex-president you're guarding, you know gets hit by anything you're like [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's kind of failed.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck the kind of thoughts over. [SPEAKER_03]: You have one job. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: And then like you get into the fact like, so the FBI is investigating, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And then before Trump, like the their administration, or anyone else can get involved, like was it 10 days after, Crook's body gets fucking destroyed. [SPEAKER_05]: Did they throw a car in his trench with a slumber bin Laden?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's just, like, you know, they usually in a high profile situation like that. [SPEAKER_03]: They're usually keep, type of like, brain tissue, anything like that. [SPEAKER_03]: They kept nothing. [SPEAKER_03]: Just release the body, the family family got it cremated right away. [SPEAKER_03]: There's no talks, college or anything like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Just fucking toast, body. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know if he's getting fucking control by LSD, part of fucking MK Ultra.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got no idea. [SPEAKER_04]: It was, and then, yeah, they just said, like, [SPEAKER_04]: No mode of fount after 16 months. [SPEAKER_04]: There's go nothing yet. [SPEAKER_03]: He pops up in a fucking black rock commercial couple of four a fuck. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I hear that and I'm like, oh, that's strange But like black rocks at gigantic corporations. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what would that have to do with they had haunted them there?

[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, this is our mentoring candidate. [SPEAKER_03]: He's just a black rock. [SPEAKER_04]: He just hates old doll the dog's all connected man [SPEAKER_05]: Well, dude, it's hard to say because you're like, well, I mean, the one thing that, you know, I know in my heart of heart is that Trump did not get hit by a fucking bullet in the air. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that block rock, hate it don't Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: Black rock wanted fucking Donald Trump to get elected.

[SPEAKER_03]: So they let they use this kid. [SPEAKER_03]: They set him up. [SPEAKER_03]: They put him in the situation. [SPEAKER_03]: They knew it was coming and before he could do anything you guys had blown off. [SPEAKER_05]: But like everything else, what if he shot, but he didn't get the shot off. [SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't get the shot off. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he got any killed the guy. [SPEAKER_01]: He killed the guy behind Donald. [SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't say, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: And like his numbers is his numbers. [SPEAKER_04]: The content show. [SPEAKER_01]: This is still killed the guy behind him. [SPEAKER_01]: Right? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, half of the Americans pulled out for this event. [SPEAKER_04]: The reason they've older for Donald Trump is because of this event, like they're like, oh, they're trying to sell them. [SPEAKER_04]: They're trying to, they're trying to fucking stop the purge of the, what ever this dream is.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can't dream the swamp if you did, right? [SPEAKER_04]: But just like, yeah, the fact that this guy got off eight shots. [SPEAKER_04]: So one person was killed and there was a couple other people hit like seriously injured just behind him. [SPEAKER_04]: So it just doesn't admit just the fact that the ear, the photograph, the fight fight fight, it was so much like a movie that it was like, what?

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I think I honestly can't let a good disaster go to waste, right? [SPEAKER_03]: 100% we said that we brought the photos in. [SPEAKER_03]: We got to get picture. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's lower the fucking American flag. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't like I said. [SPEAKER_03]: The former CIA or the Secret Service is organized, that's his fucking security detail.

[SPEAKER_05]: And first and foremost, I mean, the one thing I'll say about Trump, he's a showman. [SPEAKER_05]: Always has been always looking for ratings. [SPEAKER_05]: Like if he goes down when they kind of all attack them and go down, again, like said, no disaster, go away.

[SPEAKER_05]: This guy with the Alaiqam or not, he's tuned into, you know, like what's, [SPEAKER_05]: what's getting what's going to move WWE reality right well not only that he's got one of his TV shows in the world he's always been in the middle guys in home alone right so it's like part of me is like you know like that's where but then his response is total like he's like that's a work he's like oh this is going to be perfect I'm going to do this huge

[SPEAKER_05]: But the fucking weird thing is then run in the photographers in, like you see it on video that I show them in, like they push them kind of into frame. [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, what the fuck is going on? [SPEAKER_03]: So that's fucking bizarre, but also the so the doctor who treated Trump, his name is Ronnie Jackson, who is a currently a congressman and not a practicing doctor and be basically owes his career to Trump.

[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, O's is ear to him, and he, no, it, and he was the guy that, like, he's the doctor that said fucking Trump was the healthiest dog a president of all time. [SPEAKER_03]: The healthiest. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like, this guy's fucking, this guy's shaped like a blob dude. [SPEAKER_04]: If you jumped shirt off, you would be a Paul of what you see. [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, he's standing in a 45 degree angle.

[SPEAKER_01]: It makes no, not any type of they cover up all that breezing on his hand. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, all that weird stuff that's going on there. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he's like, he's like the damage to some years old dude. [SPEAKER_03]: They can, any type of small trauma usually causes a permanent defect to an ear, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just such a little, it's all it is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a little bit of cartilage.

[SPEAKER_03]: You get any blood, any hematoma in the area. [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to deform the [SPEAKER_03]: It's just fucking weird. [SPEAKER_04]: You get one bad need to the ear, and you get fucking cauliflower ear to it. [SPEAKER_04]: As Andrew has, right there. [SPEAKER_04]: You get a super sonic fucking bullet to the ear, and you get nothing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it's like, I would believe it if he had it wrapped up for a fucking couple months, and he's like, yeah, I got my ear fucking surgically repaired, the little plastic surgery cleaned it up a little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: But no, it was lazy. [SPEAKER_03]: It was like he wore a bandaid on his ear for a fucking one pediatric session, and then it was gone. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, man. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like it seemed it literally seemed like this was orchestrated.

[SPEAKER_03]: They had all the cameras in the right places. [SPEAKER_03]: His head was turned at the perfect moment, looking at that fucking screen. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like it was just all way too perfect. [SPEAKER_03]: The guy's got a fucking [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder if this guy has, part of me wonders if he's like, because he obviously has like TV people working with him. [SPEAKER_05]: Like people that he worked with.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was a media event. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, but I'm saying it's like, some of these things like some of the production team I go out to imagine are people that have been connected with him as whole career. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, so that's when when I when you see that like I wonder if it's one of those things for those shots ring Oh, he goes down. [SPEAKER_05]: They're like he's good cuz like you the crane lowers the fucking flag What do I mean?

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like they were like they were lowering in case you could they could obstructive you and it's like or the production guy was like [SPEAKER_05]: get the flag in the shot, get the flag in the shot. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's totally like, you could have been a point where when they're in that, they're huddled. [SPEAKER_03]: They're literally like, the agents are like, we got him. [SPEAKER_03]: He's dead. [SPEAKER_03]: He's dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, threat neutralized and Trump's lucky. [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, take advantage of this. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, get the flag in, let me put his- Because then he's so angry with my shoes. [SPEAKER_05]: He's hot, my- It's hot, my- saying, like, let me get my shoes, let me get my shoes. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, not only that, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you think, do you think you have somebody operating the fucking crane the entire time?

[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody sitting there, you know? [SPEAKER_03]: Like to lower the flag. [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't think there was a remote controlled for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: Someone was sitting there with the controls for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: They might have been right below it or off to the side or. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: But you'd like to be that quick on the draw for it to be like literally instantaneous as he comes up with his fist in the air.

[SPEAKER_03]: They drop the like that's that's got to be orchestrated. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you literally the fucking ability low.

[SPEAKER_03]: well yeah your secret service all the people there to protect you are basically that dude standing out the NFL game with the fucking metal detector as everybody walks by you know what i mean like it's they're fucking trash but your media team is just like that dialed that they've getting everything done that quickly i don't know man it's like the fucking true man show the whole thing's fucking weird but what i do believe is that after this event whether they had a part in orchestrating some of it all that like and they didn't find the motherfucker had no cutlery

[SPEAKER_05]: That's fucking weird. [SPEAKER_04]: It seems like a scrub in a way, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Like, and not a single fork, which is just eating glissis, microwave glissis, cell-style little links right out of its gammel issues. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_05]: It's so strange. [SPEAKER_05]: But what I do know is they looked at this event and they went, all right, well that moved the needle, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, obviously, they were like, fat did well. [SPEAKER_03]: Did that get him elected, do you think? [SPEAKER_04]: Was that, did that, when it was a big, it was a big push for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's, I mean, there's definitely a lot to be said to be like that was probably something that, one, yeah, pushed it over the, there are a lot of people. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it worked on us, man.

[SPEAKER_03]: I remember we hopped on, we were talking about after being like, [SPEAKER_03]: That's a crazy thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he won. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he won. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it wasn't something that was being discussed already because it was leading up to this. [SPEAKER_01]: It was always like, during that election, Kamal Harris was showing, they were showing like constant footage of like,

[SPEAKER_01]: or the comparisons between her rallies and Trump's rallies and how Trump's rallies were like zero people and, you know, Kamala Harris has had tons and tons of people and all these, you know, and all these states or whatever, and you know, Trump is, and then they were trying to, like, there was already kind of this talk to be in, like, you know, the only thing that's gonna save Trump is somebody who doesn't assess the nation, Tim, because traditionally, you know, or in the past, like, it's been like, how do you, how do you, like, you took him to tell him, you're making the stallion twerking on stage.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, how do you get that? [SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting too though, because I don't remember Dan you probably will, but the attacks on Trump are pretty heavy at this point in time. [SPEAKER_03]: I remember like Biden fucking called him a Nazi essentially, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Did that kind of shit continue after this attempt or did they tone it down because they're like, [SPEAKER_01]: something like target of so many assassination attempts or, you know, whether there's the three big ones and then there's a couple other ones that we can talk about.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's, it's that whole thing where it's like every time some of the things like this happens with political violence happens or like, you know, we got a toned on our rhetoric, you know, it's getting too out of hand and then like the next week they're at it again. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's got a fucking kill him.

[SPEAKER_01]: or it's just like, yeah, but it's always kind of, well, you know, you can point to a lot of stuff that's fear of influence, like even in the, I say the Maga, but like all of that side is traditionally used a lot more violent rhetoric than the other side. [SPEAKER_01]: and, you know, especially, but it's usually, you know, not towards political opponents, I suppose, but, oh, yeah, it is, but, um, but, you know, other marginalized groups, uh, most of the time.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to say something that I looked it up, because I wasn't sure that. [SPEAKER_04]: So he got shot on the 13th or July 13th. [SPEAKER_04]: There's an interview on Rogan, something I was like, his ear was fine. [SPEAKER_04]: It was actually almost three months later. [SPEAKER_04]: 104 days between July 13th and October 25th, 2024 is when the rogue and interview was when he's like, yeah, here's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: Joe's like, oh, yeah, it looks good.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then never mention anything more about it. [SPEAKER_04]: There's no old. [SPEAKER_04]: There's no like little notch, no Nick. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like you see people who get like a Nick right in your ears Nick's forever and never. [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't grow back. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean it's great. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Trump is old like it's like if you're old like it's gonna take yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm getting you forgetting that he is the healthiest president We've all the time of all the far and this would just it could be a credit to that perhaps purchase [SPEAKER_05]: So like I know it this like it stinks. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what stinks about it, but it stinks [SPEAKER_05]: Like when you look at it, objectively, it's like fuck the smell sounds we like failed.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna really die absolutely fucking pandemonium between agencies, but you're like, it's just fucking fishy. [SPEAKER_04]: Everything came out perfect politically from it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's fucking fishy. [SPEAKER_05]: And then what was the next one? [SPEAKER_05]: What's the second? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I gotta grab a new beer. [SPEAKER_04]: So we're gonna take a short beer break. [SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna come back. [SPEAKER_04]: There's two more.

[SPEAKER_04]: The lesser ones, we're going to talk before the end of this episode, but right now, the short break will be right back. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so next we're going to, I mean, there's, there's been multiple kind of attempts over his long career of being a politician, but yeah, we're a second one where he spends more time than any other place in the world on the golf course. [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing, which means he must be really good, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Just be awesome golf.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's best to be great I go. [SPEAKER_05]: I've never even seen a footage of him actually playing actually. [SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen him this swing? [SPEAKER_01]: It's fucking pretty crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Because that was crazy part. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like this is, you know, like that other doctor said. [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, how does the president ever seen it? [SPEAKER_03]: And you look at him. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's built like a fucking oompa loompa man.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's no way that he's a big fucking. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's body shape like they might be one of the most unhealthy people. [SPEAKER_03]: He's a lumpy person Yeah, like he does not look he looks like he's smuggling melons all over the body Like it's just kind of like it's just like everything It's not normal.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's bad dude and his he's got like tech neck too is fucking neck is like pointing forward The turkey neck There was that I mean there was that joke on the Japanese cuz Japanese sensors all porn that anytime He was on Japanese TV.

[SPEAKER_05]: They were censoring his neck [SPEAKER_01]: So that was September 15th, 2024, and this was at his one of his golf courses, the Trump International Golf Club, and I guess like this one has a little bit as far as the timeline and there's only like four major events like on here like 1.59 a.m.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a cell data showing that the perpetrator Ryan Wesley Routh, who is 58, apparently of Greensboro, North Carolina, he arrived at the perimeter of the golf course and was waiting in the tree line for nearly 12 hours, so what they have.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at the book one card to Costco the other day I see one 31 PM Trump is playing the fifth hole of the golf course secret service agent is actually sweeping the sixth hole so one hole ahead keeping their spots the rifle barrel poking through the chainlink fence on the edge of the course [SPEAKER_01]: 132, the agent fires four shots towards the shrubbery where Ralph is hiding.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ralph flees without firing a single shot off, and then so manhunt ensues afterwards. [SPEAKER_01]: And to 14 PM, law enforcement says they stop Ralph to be a colon 95 in Martin County. [SPEAKER_01]: And then after a witness had provided a photo of his license plate. [SPEAKER_01]: So they picked him up in there. [SPEAKER_01]: So then that was that one.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, there weren't any shots fired at this one, but this one was like pretty close, like, if you, he was ready to, I mean, yeah, that guy was there for 12 hours. [SPEAKER_01]: He was committed to the home comeback. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how many piss jugs did he have of 12 hours? [SPEAKER_03]: I just pissed this point off. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they had. [SPEAKER_03]: They found that like, what's that smell? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to just pee in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, none of the green. [SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, hey, everyone's played golf. [SPEAKER_04]: You piss wherever you want when you're golfing. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You piss where you want to see. [SPEAKER_01]: Pist where lies, boy. [SPEAKER_01]: His loadout, I guess, the investigators said for covered an SKS style rifle with this guy had a scope. [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess he'd learned from the other guy, I guess.

[SPEAKER_01]: He had a GoPro camera in two backpacks, which contained ceramic tiles, which I guess were intended to be used as some kind of like makeshift body armor. [SPEAKER_01]: Surraming tiles? [SPEAKER_01]: What? [SPEAKER_04]: I guess it's thick enough later. [SPEAKER_03]: It would have been better off with a fucking baking sheet. [SPEAKER_03]: Ducktapers just like that's funny.

[SPEAKER_04]: How tiles are pretty dense if you had a big fat pocket of tiles and you shot through them it might help Be heavy though before getting heavy backpack [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, he was convicted. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they caught him arrested and tried him convicted him in same one September or no, September 25, so the next year and then he sent it to life from prison.

[SPEAKER_01]: He, I guess he had already kind of fit the profile that, you know, if they found that he had a history of political volatility and then I guess he's actually [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, he had a self-published, a book, criticizing Trump's foreign policy, and so that's something. [SPEAKER_01]: Did he come up with an arrow? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like a name was he called himself Ramiro. [SPEAKER_03]: I was a fucking cool name. [SPEAKER_03]: I am Ramiro.

[SPEAKER_03]: That is a fucking cool name. [SPEAKER_03]: Like Ramiro, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Like not Ramiro. [SPEAKER_03]: Ramiro. [SPEAKER_03]: Ramiro. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true. [SPEAKER_04]: I guess, yeah, he was planning this from February 2024 or something. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll say when you look at him, he doesn't look like a Ramiro. [SPEAKER_03]: Was he looking to feel like, he kind of looks, that's gonna sit. [SPEAKER_03]: First thing comes mind, not very nice. [SPEAKER_03]: Do I sit?

[SPEAKER_03]: Sit. [SPEAKER_03]: It all looks like Lesbian. [SPEAKER_04]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_04]: What's wrong with that? [SPEAKER_03]: I know exactly. [SPEAKER_04]: I know the exact person you're talking about now. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: Is this not short hair? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: A little bit butch. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Not too much guy. [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's not super muscular though, but like exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like definitely looks kind of masculine, but feminine at the same time. [SPEAKER_03]: Like he doesn't. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't got the shoulders, but he's got. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not. [SPEAKER_04]: I know I got the picture right away, but you said. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, cool. [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing wrong with lesbians like that? [SPEAKER_03]: No, I just, you know, it is what it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna try it with all these fucking one stars, man. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, it doesn't matter anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm too late now. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but yeah, it's just letting fly, my God.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that was one of the other and I feel like that's always got to be a tough one for the the secret service Because it's like you know some of these places like the you know the but they're your places They they don't really know those places, but if you can predict you know a lot of these places Like you can predict where Trump is gonna go on some of these ones.

[SPEAKER_01]: It would be like kind of tough to be like, you know It would be easy for someone to plan out [SPEAKER_01]: and attack there to be like, yeah, I mean, you know where he's going to be like, I know for sure he's going to slice it on the fifth hole over here. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The bush is coming. [SPEAKER_03]: It's gone. [SPEAKER_01]: No, you think Trump actually gives up on it. [SPEAKER_01]: He just walks over there and drops it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Mulligan. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he just drops the ball. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've found the ball over here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a straight down the green, I assure you. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was the second big one of the big three, I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: And then the third one just happened to this weekend at the Washington Hilton DC, so not far from where I live.

[SPEAKER_05]: Which, I mean, the interesting one with this one is because he hadn't done a White House correspondence dinner. [SPEAKER_05]: No, right like he's kind of famously is like no I get bad breath. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to get made fun of [SPEAKER_05]: And it's so funny. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it's very weird to say this. [SPEAKER_03]: He went to the extent of fucking faking the South nation to never have to do one again. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe. [SPEAKER_05]: It's very strange. [SPEAKER_05]: Because like, I mean, this is again. [SPEAKER_05]: Another like, I think anyone, everyone's seen the videos. [SPEAKER_05]: It, you know, April 25th, 8.30, P-834 PM. [SPEAKER_05]: You have Cole Thomas Allen. [SPEAKER_05]: just goes flying at the security checkpoint with a shotgun. [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's armed with a shotgun. [SPEAKER_03]: Really hard to tell because this was also filmed on a motorola razor.

[SPEAKER_03]: Selfie. [SPEAKER_03]: We got better images of horse foot. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Literally the shittiest security camera I've ever seen. [SPEAKER_05]: The Patterson Gimland footage is better than this footage that's released. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: What was wrong with that thing? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, should be like, how many cameras do you take a fucking logic tech webcam from fucking week?

[SPEAKER_01]: The way that a lot of these security cameras work, and I'm pretty sure you guys are probably aware, is that it's not about like the resolution in the camera, it's the storage. [SPEAKER_01]: Like these things are running 24, 7, I've still never heard of that shitty. [SPEAKER_01]: If you have resolution, if you had a high resolution camera on there all day, you would be taking up an enormous amount of time. [SPEAKER_01]: Just like when you can't, there's that damn better job.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're going to have a safe fucking kids fucking baby. [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a safe fucking baby. [SPEAKER_05]: Let me let me fucking shoot down your little theory down. [SPEAKER_05]: Shoot that fucking 1080p.

[SPEAKER_05]: I actually it's a 4K security camera that runs all day and it records all day because there's a branch that fucking Bobbles in the wind that thinks it's motion, so it goes person to tag I get I get about 585 messages a day that says person detected [SPEAKER_05]: And it records all day, but it records on a seven day loop.

[SPEAKER_05]: So just records over itself But it records and all day every day and I can pull it up right now and watch a 4k video of my kid on outside There's a year's run on a seven day loop. [SPEAKER_04]: These ones are like constant like they keep that story Like a long time like you have a military budget of how many trillions of dollars and you can't buy some fucking For this is the hill to terrible it's like [SPEAKER_03]: Still no way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you tear by hard drives, like it's not that much tips, that and like if you're 4k, yes, it's huge files, but 720 is tired. [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're doing it for multiples like hundreds of hotels. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a poison having that camera set up then. [SPEAKER_05]: You can't just suck in cranes in no way you're getting prosecution on anyone on the camera because the judge is going to be like, what? [SPEAKER_05]: I can't be sure. [SPEAKER_03]: I just fucking Minecraft.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, that's where they should have a big fucking hotel chain, too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then you wouldn't want to, you wouldn't want to try to assassinate everybody at the Hojo because they have good cameras. [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't want to assassinate them. [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't. [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't. [SPEAKER_04]: You would scope out where you want to make the attempt, you're like, these cameras suck. [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll try here.

[SPEAKER_04]: But the whole, so now we've seen lots of different angles. [SPEAKER_04]: We've seen some like body cam footage and other stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: The guy just, how we just like sprints past, spasticity. [SPEAKER_04]: He just sprints in there, rips right past and they're like, what? [SPEAKER_04]: And then they pull the guns on like chasing, but it took a few seconds ever and even realize what happened. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, did he fire shot?

[SPEAKER_05]: Did he fire shot as he went through security? [SPEAKER_01]: No, one of the guys because I said, what is it? [SPEAKER_01]: During Alan registered guests of the well, he was a registered guest at the hotel. [SPEAKER_01]: He was staying there. [SPEAKER_01]: He ate 30 PM. [SPEAKER_01]: He tries to break through the lobby security checkpoint, which goes to the underground ballroom that they have. [SPEAKER_01]: So A31 is when shots are fired in the lobby area.

[SPEAKER_01]: The secret service agent is struck in his ballistic vest. [SPEAKER_01]: So he was shot, but he was standing. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he went to the hospital, got cleared, and he was okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Then, yeah, and then, like A32 inside the ballroom, hundreds of guests, which was including the president, most of his cabinet, vice president, everybody, first lady, all of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they go under tables, like, you know, security comes in and puts these people all under tables and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: There's that one guy still trying to finish just salad that they're there. [SPEAKER_01]: There's people who are doing a white underneath table.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's people grabbing bottles, like grabbing bottles and putting them in their [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, it's like you look like the footage that's come out of that now is like makes me question because it's like they first off they come in like tell Trump and Trump has this like fucking little smirk as he's sitting there and they fucking run JD vans out of there. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like why they run in JD vans out before the president?

[SPEAKER_05]: and that he's just sitting there like kind of smirking i mean he's a little easier to move by his yeah his wife what's your name i've always heard i mean that's demonstrably too because fault trump did fall down when they trying to get him out like but he like she looked kind of surprised [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's footage of, you know, polarizing Erica Kirk, we're like moments before she's kind of standing, looks at her phone, side eyes the camera.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, doesn't want to look at it, but looks directly at the camera, we're like kind of trying to pinpoint where it might be. [SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of like, that's what my gut tells me she's doing. [SPEAKER_05]: When I see that, I see her check her phone and she, I mean, she tries to, [SPEAKER_05]: She wants to know where the hard came is. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it looked like to do. [SPEAKER_03]: It can't be. [SPEAKER_03]: It can't be. [SPEAKER_03]: It can't be.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this story has been piled on a ton. [SPEAKER_03]: She's got fighting those Drew ski impressions phenomenal. [SPEAKER_03]: She's getting a lot of stress. [SPEAKER_03]: But it does look weird. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, she's been through a lot, but through a lot of her high-profile appearances, not looking like a grieving widow. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she doesn't run her own company now. [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't she, didn't she, no, didn't she cancel her?

[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't she cancel her appearance with JD Vance? [SPEAKER_01]: Like they had something and then she canceled her appearance saying that was unsafe, but the vice president went anyways. [SPEAKER_04]: This was not here that it was JD, like, fucking, he had an affair with JD Vance. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not some room for something that was speculated. [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, they had a, they were doing a, they were supposed to do an appearance together. [SPEAKER_01]: This was like, I don't know, like a month ago, like, and then she canceled, because she thought she thought it was unsafe, but the people were like, why would you cancel when the vice president and his secret service detail cleared it? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, I think it's looking, they're talking track record.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's there, but then also people with there was like, there's nobody there, but he's ripping through the ballroom with Benny Hillman a music playing in the background chasing after him. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, all people are also saying it's because it was like seriously low attendance to this event. [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's like nobody, nobody went. [SPEAKER_04]: Like it looks like that action movie, the way of the footage I seen, it looks like a bad action movie.

[SPEAKER_04]: No one really looked like they were really worried about it when the secret surface came in came in for J.D. [SPEAKER_04]: Vance. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, oh, they're trying to pull him away, but I just pushed him away. [SPEAKER_05]: Did they kill him? [SPEAKER_05]: Did they kill cool. [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's alive. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's alive. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been, that's funny. [SPEAKER_05]: It was so lame.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's funny, you see, it looks like a bad action movie, but honestly, I felt like those reactions seem to be more authentic than, you know, the Butler incident, but it was everything's perfect, he's bumping and fisting the air, everybody's cheering him on, where he's like, this situation, everybody's like, what the fuck's going on?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everybody looks confused, which seems more legit to me, like, [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was pretty funny just the juxtaposition of having the guy who's like eating his salad and then there's people like hiding under the tables But it's also in that situation. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he'd be like, well, he's definitely not here for me Like, you know and just be like Okay, let's do it. [SPEAKER_05]: He's my final dollar Like basically like all the high ranking people.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, maybe you should have fucking not counter your chickens before you fucking wrote that, but it's painful. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's go down a little weird avenue because if you guys want to follow it on X, there was some weird shit going on. [SPEAKER_05]: So we know the shooter or, you know, the attempted assassin would be assassin. [SPEAKER_05]: Was Cole Allen. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, there was a dormant Twitter account, Henry Ma, 79561893 and the name of Henry Martinez.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's important to note, too. [SPEAKER_05]: In December, the only post is December, 2023, two years before the attack. [SPEAKER_05]: And the only post are the words Cole Allen. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, the other weird thing that people are pointing to is the account's profile picture is, you know, a Tuxedo Pepe the Frog meme that when put side by side to when Trump finds out there's a shooter. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, very similar. [SPEAKER_03]: Very similar kind of poses.

[SPEAKER_03]: The fucking, well, the differences is he's not holding the drink. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but the drink is in front of them. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, [SPEAKER_05]: To make things even weird, and this is where we start getting down and even weird path, because people are like, why the fuck would this one thing just message coal, Allen, and never again?

[SPEAKER_05]: The header background image is this weird glitched like 3D image, and when people have were playing around with it, they like, you know, doing the filters and kind of putting it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking, it's a super-imposed picture of Trump from the Butler assassination. [SPEAKER_05]: that's what it looks like. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, and you look at it and you see this side by side. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, do I sound one more?

[SPEAKER_05]: They kind of faded it in and out and you can kind of see it. [SPEAKER_05]: The problem is this is posted in 2023. [SPEAKER_05]: Before the photos taken.

[SPEAKER_05]: So now to get even weirder, people are now linking this image to a time machine website that contains [SPEAKER_05]: Now, to get even weird down this fucking rabbit hole, people are tying this because Cole Allen, they found out it was an intern at NASA and he worked with a NASA scientist Henry Martinez who has supposedly disappeared and is potentially one of the one of the linked missing scientists and what was his area of study, time travel and gravity manipulation.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you share the picture and the fucking I just put it in the group. [SPEAKER_03]: Can you throw it up on the livestream? [SPEAKER_05]: And so people are now wondering if like whatever kind of

[SPEAKER_05]: research this like time travel site was working on is like pulling these future images in some sort of way to predict the future because when you put this all together you have a picture of the assassination attempt and then you have you have posted this picture in 2023 and I mean listen I will be the first to admit that when you look at this you could probably put a picture of me like flexing my muscles over talk this and make it work but it is it is fucking strange man it's a

[SPEAKER_05]: mix of coincidences that you have, you know, this guy years before posting this, it makes me think that, you know, my brain kind of goes like, okay, when I'm trying to think of like the what if, I'm like, man, if our reality is just some sort of simulation, and they're doing

[SPEAKER_05]: you know, kind of these experiments digitally to try to pull things from the future, you know, because, you know, maybe the internet and like this, you know, these electrical impulse from the internet and stuff kind of ripple through space and time. [SPEAKER_05]: And we're just starting to figure out how to decode them from the occasion records. [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of where my fucking brain was going this afternoon after. [SPEAKER_05]: He posted this in 2023.

[SPEAKER_03]: The photo or this happened. [SPEAKER_05]: So he posted the digitized image, just the colors. [SPEAKER_05]: But then people are being like, when you super post it, it really fits. [SPEAKER_04]: So he takes your hand being so excited. [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, it's working backwards. [SPEAKER_04]: Then someone's working backwards from what he posted originally to the actual guest. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's my question. [SPEAKER_04]: It's almost impossible to tell this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Henry Martinez. [SPEAKER_03]: do we have an age on him we don't know don't know because I think there's a really good chance because they work together hard Henry Martinez bit of a geese thought he was looking up cool Alan trying to find him on Twitter and a tweeting his name by accent that honest to God that is a really good chance we have every geese that you know has done that on Facebook or Twitter

[SPEAKER_05]: And just like the fucking guy who shot Charlie Cook why I can't remember his name People had been looking up Google searches for coal his coal Thomas Allen Where did this where is this the Google search spike two days before I? [SPEAKER_05]: I can't get that fake. [SPEAKER_05]: Can you guess I don't know no, I don't know if that's a life, but you know is real [SPEAKER_05]: Don't say it, you can't say that when I said it already.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's like the new Austin New Vaccine word. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't say that. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't fucking say that, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: You know that. [SPEAKER_05]: But like that was a weird little rabbit hole to go down and you're like, fuck, is there something fucking, that's weird? [SPEAKER_05]: Like you just fucking weird, man.

[SPEAKER_05]: Imagine just imagine like opening it x right now and you're just like, I'm gonna do a random name and then two years later that name fucking shoots the president. [SPEAKER_05]: Or try to shoot the president. [SPEAKER_05]: That's how you activate them. [SPEAKER_05]: What are the odds? [SPEAKER_05]: That's how you act. [SPEAKER_05]: What are the fucking odds of doing that? [SPEAKER_05]: They got to be astronomical. [SPEAKER_05]: That was fucking bizarre.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the only tweet you make. [SPEAKER_05]: It's so fucking weird. [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't, again, this part of me, I just don't. [SPEAKER_05]: Part of me wonders if they just let this guy get through because it seems so fucking weird that he was even able to get that close Like is it just for the story?

[SPEAKER_05]: He just had great press conference after we was like only great presidents get assassinated Then ones who were really moving so I'm very moved by all the chances. [SPEAKER_03]: Is this not like has he yeah What are his approval ratings right now? [SPEAKER_03]: They can't be great. [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be there trash. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they can't be good [SPEAKER_03]: He's literally backtracking on one of the most or anything old, but you know what I'm talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_04]: That's okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Still love them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not a war, so not going to take the ad. [SPEAKER_01]: They, I just saw a thing just now and it was like, they caught the, one of the Fox News hosts like doing some report on it and they caught them on hot Mike about, I guess they're reporting that night and they're like, yeah, they're like, the secret service is trash. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, they're not even trying anymore, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, there's videos looked like none of those agencies had ever trained together because they're fucking, [SPEAKER_05]: running guns, so guys are pointing crossfire, screaming and yelling each other. [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, what a fucking man. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you got him. [SPEAKER_01]: You got him hard tax, you know, freaking patting down all the door dash guys coming to deliver burgers to the White House, like, you know, it's a sleigh.

[SPEAKER_05]: But is it like is are these do you guys think that these are just Political moves at this point like is this government? [SPEAKER_04]: moves to try to get points with the public at the world is a fucking Massive stage and it's all a sham [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I think it says a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it says a lot to just the way the current atmosphere of his side or whatever that they're actually calling it out as a lot of them are calling it as staged.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or that's the first thing that everybody says when you have an actual attempt on a president, a sitting president's life, is staged. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it says a lot about the current political climate, [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's like, nobody's like freaking out there. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like staged. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, stage no way. [SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, well, the government, the government came out and sent it to the center seven fell by itself.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it's to me, it's like any any officials information. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I believe that. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm saying the first time it was like there was that whole kind of sentiment to be in like, hey, you know, like, well, that was the first tone down the rhetoric, you know, the fact that there's been so many and that that people are just like, this is staged, this is, you know,

[SPEAKER_01]: we had all these attempts and you're just like everybody's like now it's just like a big joke and you're just like that's that's kind of crazy you have a assassination attempt not by like a foreign power and not by anything like that it's like you know I mean we have we are literally kidnapping presidents but [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, no big deal. [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever, no one ever talked about that one either. [SPEAKER_04]: Just happened, and then it was over here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We got her, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: And the door was put around there. [SPEAKER_02]: We just wanted to connect him, took him. [SPEAKER_02]: And then you know, the news cycle is going to ship us a bunch of gold. [SPEAKER_04]: And then the current news cycle is so insane that you can just do that. [SPEAKER_04]: And then like, they said the guy. [SPEAKER_04]: They made a deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's some crazy deal that they're like, yeah, they made some deal where they're going to like ship a bunch of crawlers prison. [SPEAKER_01]: He's having a good time. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's doing like an Epstein prison, probably probably because he's already out of the way. [SPEAKER_01]: He's shaved like he actually looks better than he did when they took a man. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's with his wife too, I believe, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm literally definitely into it, but it's like, yeah, that's it, but that happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just the fact is that the first thing that all in big capital letters across all social media when this happened was like staged, staged, like...

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, your numbers are tanking and like that's what you think it's gonna take is like another assassination temp But I would also think like how wild is it that you think that's actually like bring your numbers back up Like has nothing to do with anything there's a lot of delusional people out there in the government

[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't like you're you're running for yeah, you're running for reelection for you know to to Dring this one, but it's like now you're doing this video. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll check if you swap his fucking full boys. [SPEAKER_04]: It's just real full out of wild stuff, but it I mean, it's as terrible footage.

[SPEAKER_04]: You could give us some better [SPEAKER_05]: Well, she's just, it's just fucking weird, like you have this fucking, they got the picture of him shirtless on the ground. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was kind of. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: You have the White House, like it's, again, it's the White House correspondent. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it makes sense that you strip him because you're worried he's maybe got some explosives or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like I like all the things are like people like who's taking these photos like you got a dude at there in the camera Just like snap in that photo if you're on that's like Like fun live and die on the ground It's but it's wild that they're like they're not taking the photo from like above, you know Just like kind of step back like it do just like on the ground like cameras on the ground in the deeds Fairling the photo. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, sure [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, man, it's just it's just it's it's smelling so fishy to me like there's just some fish you going on Yeah, I don't know what the what the Ending is But it's just that's let's get the infinity stones because like yeah, yeah, maybe because it's just it's [SPEAKER_05]: This one, too, it's just like everything that happens, you're like, it's so fucking weird that, say, endgame and games coming back that theaters, like, it's all coming back to theaters.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're re-releasing it. [SPEAKER_05]: Get out of the box, and they're changing it a little bit because they need it to, they need to retcon it to make it fit with the new ones. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk to Doom. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, um, I'm out, I'm never watching another fucking Marvel movie ever again. [SPEAKER_05]: You will, your time will come again, partner. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be watching their originals when I'm old. [SPEAKER_05]: You have a son.

[SPEAKER_01]: When I'm old, he's going to be just going to be just go strider, spirit of engines, and that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: You have a son. [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be dragging us. [SPEAKER_04]: I'll watch the original Spider-Man, and you're going to be Sam and I was. [SPEAKER_05]: When I was a kid, Spider-Man was white. [SPEAKER_04]: I loved those things. [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, what's the white? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you, I'm working on the top of the wall.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's getting ready to get their own characters. [SPEAKER_04]: do nothing for me anymore. [SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately. [SPEAKER_04]: I watch me as a guy. [SPEAKER_03]: Just sucks. [SPEAKER_03]: They all, they're all the same. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch Bagania? [SPEAKER_04]: Nope. [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you love it. [SPEAKER_03]: Probably not. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guarantee you. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm old grumpy now. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm old grumpy man.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like any time. [SPEAKER_03]: You will enjoy Bagania. [SPEAKER_03]: What is that? [SPEAKER_03]: Just watch it. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't even enjoy sitting and doing anything for an hour and a half anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: Bullshit you don't like fucking park in your ass on a coach for an hour and a half This is what I like doing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like talking shit with the boys and that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about the peak my peak life right now is that is this moment right now Anyways, I'm sure we'll pay attention though. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure there might be another [SPEAKER_04]: attempt to update this at the next time next week. [SPEAKER_04]: Next week. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: We're even two years in to this fucking nope to his run. [SPEAKER_05]: No, that was like a lifetime.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like a year and a half. [SPEAKER_05]: Not even a year and a half in. [SPEAKER_01]: Not even a year and a half. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was, oh, yeah, and then people were saying it's extra staged because it's like right after I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like minutes hours after this happened like his lawyer, his lawyer team filed Because that was at the White House Preservation Society like filed a suit to keep him from building that ballroom

[SPEAKER_01]: And some already tore his lawyers updated it, his lawyers updated the case to their case may be like, we need the ballroom because of this stuff like you know, if he has a secure ballroom, then we wouldn't have to be having these ballrooms, you know, this is just a big question. [SPEAKER_01]: It's an all-reason. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a real estate. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what people are saying like, no, he did this so he could get his stupid ballroom bill.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's a swan. [SPEAKER_04]: I honestly think people put too much stock in old buildings or like, make them better. [SPEAKER_04]: Who cares? [SPEAKER_04]: maybe you should ask provision for your torch it down. [SPEAKER_04]: But, of course, it's an old ass building. [SPEAKER_04]: What's a fucking 200 years old?

[SPEAKER_04]: What's like you get up to if there's no like the ballroom having there and then like all the other plans about all the weird stuff I've heard about that that they're going to build like an underneath underground bunker underneath there and all this stuff I couldn't imagine If that building was because what so there was the before Canada was Canada was the war of 1812 The English Canadians whatever burned the White House down they rebuilt it that mother fuckers probably so twisted and warped be built green lumber back in the day that it should be burned down again and rebuilt

[SPEAKER_04]: a third time. [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably so the floor is probably so bad. [SPEAKER_01]: I think parts have been renovated and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but the original foundation, the original framing and floors, if I bet you if you rolled some marbles down the hallways in the White House, they would just just go, they would be everywhere. [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, oh, he fuck, this is being going wild. [SPEAKER_04]: So, calm down about the White House people.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a fucking building another one. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not big deal. [SPEAKER_04]: All sides. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're fucking out. [SPEAKER_04]: This week, we got a couple new announcements. [SPEAKER_04]: I rebuilt the website for the first time in like eight years. [SPEAKER_04]: Hell yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: It looks great. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm on version 18 of the new build so that it's still room for improvement. [SPEAKER_04]: So go to alimthyrus.com, go search.

[SPEAKER_04]: I now got a merch tab on there. [SPEAKER_04]: We got the Patreon tab. [SPEAKER_04]: Everything at alimthyrus.com is where you got to go. [SPEAKER_04]: And these fucking beauties went to alimthyrus.com. [SPEAKER_04]: They clicked that classified feed. [SPEAKER_04]: They went to Patreon. [SPEAKER_04]: They signed up. [SPEAKER_04]: They're not on the Epstein list. [SPEAKER_04]: We got this week. [SPEAKER_04]: We have Derek Codel. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don Codel, Ham. [SPEAKER_04]: We got Alexander Fletis. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go into this. [SPEAKER_04]: Andrea E. Menzy's and Tian Draper Sportan Show. [SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, if you listen to this, too, on the fucking Monday, the 4th, four days into the running challenge. [SPEAKER_05]: You got more time for one of the fucking games. [SPEAKER_04]: These are already exploded. [SPEAKER_05]: These are exploded.

[SPEAKER_05]: We already got like, I think 25 people signed up. [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be a block, it's going to be a fucking bloodbath. [SPEAKER_05]: The listers, nails, gone. [SPEAKER_05]: This is our Vietnam. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get 35 Kns, my foot, swear. [SPEAKER_04]: 35, it's my goal. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going for a hundred. [SPEAKER_05]: If I can do a hundred in the month, there's no fucking way. [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, my record was way more than that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think my record... Yeah, how many kids did you record was when you were on that record one? [SPEAKER_05]: One kid. [SPEAKER_05]: No, you didn't. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, now you got three. [SPEAKER_05]: The original. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't have, no, the second. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't do as good the first one as I did the second. [SPEAKER_04]: I think my record was 280k in a month, but I'll never mention it. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going for a hundred.

[SPEAKER_04]: I beat down with a late night run the last night. [SPEAKER_05]: That is right. [SPEAKER_04]: I beat it being by it. [SPEAKER_04]: We had to meet it. [SPEAKER_05]: Never forget it down Don't forget a damn It's just been it's been the if I can hear it's been thick between you two ever since [SPEAKER_04]: That late night. [SPEAKER_04]: I got a late night Texan bringing from Braiden in 2021 say, hey, you got to beat Dan. [SPEAKER_04]: He's already sleepy.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can go right now Dan's asleep. [SPEAKER_05]: He has no no. [SPEAKER_05]: I think what it was was I was like if you run right now the competition's ended for Dan cuz he's It was and he I had a bad at beating my feet. [SPEAKER_04]: I had to run 300 meters. [SPEAKER_04]: I went out my legs were so fucking sore and I just hobbled my way down the road at 1 a.m [SPEAKER_05]: No, I've done I've done four two k's warming up.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm feeling good the first one enough is fucking. [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, this is rough. [SPEAKER_05]: But now I'm feeling all right. [SPEAKER_05]: And now I'm going to Probably take a break and then do my first run on the first probably go for two two and a half case. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm training for a triathlon right now. [SPEAKER_04]: So I can't only run, but I'm going to do my best. [SPEAKER_05]: Can't only run. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gone. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm swimming.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm biking and I'm running. [SPEAKER_04]: What do you just do fucking doggy paddle? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, pretty much, though. [SPEAKER_04]: You're fucking talking about that a little bit. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I went to the pool last week, and I had a swim, so I'm doing a triathlon sprint. [SPEAKER_04]: which anyone could probably do without any training, but I'm gonna try and train. [SPEAKER_04]: I had a, I swimed 700 meters. [SPEAKER_03]: I saw a lot. [SPEAKER_04]: I almost didn't.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was doing gas, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't swam in eight. [SPEAKER_04]: Like I've, when I did my diving and stuff, you have to swim like whatever four or 500 meters, but you can swim however you want. [SPEAKER_04]: Just fucking float on your back. [SPEAKER_04]: You just gotta get there and back, it's not big deal.

[SPEAKER_04]: This one, you can't swim on your back because there's gonna be 400 people swimming at the same time, so you have to swim front crawl or breaststroke. [SPEAKER_04]: I was almost like in front of all the died 200 those eggs are getting beaten, hey, so you're saying that I almost died [SPEAKER_04]: I have a terrible swimmer of all my athletic abilities. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: I knew that and I have a swim regularly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Seven. [SPEAKER_03]: We're a wetsuit, front crawl. [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know I didn't only do, I did front crawl and then breaststroke front crawl. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I can do four lengths and then I have to take a break for a while. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I didn't, I went. [SPEAKER_04]: But I've also, I'm not in bad terrible shape right now, but I'm a bad swimming shape. [SPEAKER_04]: Tell you that. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, being in, swimming shape is different though.

[SPEAKER_03]: The best swimmer is the pool. [SPEAKER_03]: Our fucking 65 years old. [SPEAKER_04]: Here's the more you have it fucking ripped. [SPEAKER_05]: Here's the better question. [SPEAKER_05]: We're getting to that age now when you hit the public pool. [SPEAKER_05]: You just long balling in as soon as you get over the pool. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, buddy, not so on the fucking corner. [SPEAKER_05]: Just and just fool, just putting a leg up on the counter to dry off in front of all the young bucks.

[SPEAKER_05]: 100% hell boy. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's wrap this up. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll continue to pull a talking after hours here. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, as we always say, the end of these things. [SPEAKER_05]: Keep to talk about the skies.

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