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Case File 368-The Epstein Files

Feb 16, 20261 hr 19 min
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We discuss the Epstein Files. No bias, just real talk, relax.


In the sealed courtrooms and heavily redacted documents surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, a paper trail lingers like a stain that won’t fade. Flight logs, sealed depositions, names whispered in transcripts—what was once dismissed as scandal has evolved into a labyrinth of unanswered questions.

Who knew what? Who looked the other way? And why did so many powerful connections seem to orbit a man whose empire thrived in the shadows?

This case file, join the Theorists as we sift through the secrecy and speculation in… The Epstein Files



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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_00]: In the sealed courtrooms and heavily-redacted documents surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, a paper trail lingers, like a stain that won't fade. [SPEAKER_00]: Flightlocks sealed depositions, names, whispered and transcripts, what was once dismissed as scandal, has evolved into a labyrinth of unanswered questions, who knew what, who looked the other way, and why did so many powerful connections seem to orbit a man whose empire thrived in the shadows.

[SPEAKER_00]: This case file, join the theorists as we sift through the secrecy and speculation in the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome daily if there is theorizing another look at the fucking never in the napstein files Oh, hey listen, so first look actually are first no, but I don't even know These things they don't exist no it's a democrat fucking hoax hoax [SPEAKER_02]: They're not real. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Who won't worry about him.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Why do we even believe in these fox anywhere as they just dropped three million? [SPEAKER_04]: We said it. [SPEAKER_04]: We said in the group chat we're like, all right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about Epstein again. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it because of the new release. [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone come on as long as you're not in the files. [SPEAKER_04]: We're missing one. [SPEAKER_02]: This is a damn no one to stay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Dan's trying to come across all sanctimonious. [SPEAKER_02]: Can't do it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to talk with this kind of stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: We all know the fucking truth. [SPEAKER_04]: Buddy, we did a deep dive in our scent messages on our fucking Gmail. [SPEAKER_04]: Guess what? [SPEAKER_04]: We got a ton from Dan to Jeff. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking for the wildest parties. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you got to hook up or not.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Jeff, I'm in Thailand. [SPEAKER_04]: I could go for wilder parties, hit up your boy. [SPEAKER_04]: Big Dickie. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Jeffy Bay had another one. [SPEAKER_05]: I wrote a very Thai one. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a column over there, big Richard. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dan's taking the night off. [SPEAKER_03]: He's uh, he doesn't want us to hear us talk about Well, he's living it.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's living basically we've basically been dance-old It's nothing to do with this We've got it boys cut it over just to close the home Yeah, but I'm gonna do with his home boy.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're in Dan's last shirts and pictures with talking Jeffrey Epstein The the first thing I was like that struck me in all this is like [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I have for quite a while been like I'm not like the biggest must-fem, but I like what he's doing with the fucking Mars with the Spaceships [SPEAKER_04]: with the Tesla's, you're like what he's doing with his money. [SPEAKER_04]: I look at the holes. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like what he's doing with his money.

[SPEAKER_04]: Make it flamethrowers, make it flamethrowers, do some full-anthropy, full-anthropy. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the tough word. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, all that good will in my book's gone. [SPEAKER_04]: After this motherfucker, I have to watch all the time his tweets are because he makes everyone follow him. [SPEAKER_04]: His tweets pop up and it's like, oh, prosecute everyone in these files.

[SPEAKER_05]: You're in the farm and the worst way you're the fucking you're the guy that wasn't cool enough to go to the fucking peto parties But you were begging but you were begging in the fucking emails dude. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wait. [SPEAKER_03]: It was embarrassed Let's start but before being too crazy [SPEAKER_03]: The Epstein files because we've talked about Jeffrey Epstein convicted pedophile back in what 2000 and 2008 and eight and before that before that a lot of investigations he got a nice light sentence of like what do he he got like a one year sentence, but he he could go to work What do you want to club med? [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: He like was in like a lockdown and then he was going to have these fucking emails correspondence during his jail sentence [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I'm saying so he gets arrested he gets released over the years the evidence starts to build in the case built again and at this Epstein file stuff that's been it has been held in the FBI vault pretty much right for all these years now.

[SPEAKER_03]: has finally been released as what they call the freedom of a FOIA and you can search millions of anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein and the case emails anyone who talked to anything they could find except for [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a bunch of stuff still. [SPEAKER_03]: They haven't released the good stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, if we're going to be honest here, the only things that they really haven't released, you know, are the fucking perpetrator's names, which is absolute insanity. [SPEAKER_02]: The only people speaking fucking protectors are protected right now are the fucking petos, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy because it's not. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is fucking nuts.

[SPEAKER_03]: In these files, it was email and correspondence from like wealthy business leaders, academic scientists, [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a real estate agent fucking big tech guys like fucking foreign like dignitaries like crazy shit. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm and if you're just tuning to this podcast and for some reason you didn't hear about Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_03]: We did a couple of cases on them.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's cases everywhere go familiarize yourself with you just if you just turn on our podcast. [SPEAKER_04]: You're like Jeffrey, who let's try that one. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: So these files they did your head out of the fucking sand like not only was it going like correspondence. [SPEAKER_03]: It was flight logs anywhere he flew to and with court documents and all the legal filings that came with it.

[SPEAKER_03]: All the photographs and videos that were taken entering the investigation. [SPEAKER_03]: All the financial records personal and his corporate. [SPEAKER_03]: All the investigative reports are in these. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is a full investigation adapted, obviously, names, names, faces, mother stuff, she's not just, that right there just goes to show you that there's literally a two tier, a two tier justice system, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: And they finally, they finally was a called the Epstein Clarity Act or something. [SPEAKER_03]: They finally,

[SPEAKER_03]: had like a house photo whatever is in the states and it was only one person voted against releasing it who was that mother fucker there in it he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he

[SPEAKER_02]: absolute like you hear these guys and like look like look at the laundry list of people now that you have apps like Listen, I admit it to being a little bit red-pilled in the past, you know, I got pretty raw raw And now you go to this name and like this isn't even about left and right buddy Andrew's is this fingering is UV or trying to get that fucking pillow out of it [SPEAKER_02]: It will listen, but for that's thing, it's like it's not about left or right.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is literally about good versus fucking evil. [SPEAKER_02]: The criminal, the evil on this. [SPEAKER_02]: The amount of people that are in the current administration that said there's absolutely no, there are no files. [SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: Cash, but tell what a fucking douche bag. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's pause on this guy for one second because he has to be the most, like the least trustworthy looking person I've ever seen dude. [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa. [SPEAKER_01]: This fucking guy is fucking. [SPEAKER_02]: He's actually the brown version of Sean McVeigh. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what, Google it, put the picture side by side. [SPEAKER_02]: It's insane. [SPEAKER_04]: That was a good, good impersonation.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because he came out a while ago and he was like, listen, there's nothing. [SPEAKER_04]: If I would have, if there was anything I would have seen them, then they just dropped four of that. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we're talking to you like, both of you.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the worst part about that is before that before he even got in as the director of the FBI He sits on fucking Sean Ryan's coach and every other fucking big podcast around the world is like if I get in Everything's coming up. [SPEAKER_02]: I got another guy on the most fucking trustworthy person on the planet. [SPEAKER_02]: You know I'm like it goes on rogue in it and he's just like yeah, nothing there.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's like really nothing What about the missing parts of the video like hi, we see nothing there's nothing there [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I've seen it. [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing there. [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fucking mean while they have literally millions of pieces, of course, bonnets with people. [SPEAKER_02]: Totally. [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking crazy.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's even for him to definitively come out and say that I, there is a hundred percent evidence that Jeffrey Epstein, fucking committed suicide and kid himself. [SPEAKER_02]: Where the fuck is it then? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not only that, now he's come out. [SPEAKER_04]: But he, we're seeing fucking hundreds of photos of being like, grock, remove the beard and hair from this mother fucker. [SPEAKER_04]: See, he has to be in his room.

[SPEAKER_04]: And not to mention fucking Jeffrey, I've seen Fortnite account and it's what's logged in. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what a week ago, people like, you know, what's up with that? [SPEAKER_04]: Little half-a-air, whatever it's called. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that post on 4chan? [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was Ellen. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh fuck, I got to read the. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, listen. [SPEAKER_02]: I know it sounds kind of fucking shit.

[SPEAKER_03]: The gaming one is like, come on, you know, how many accounts have been stolen from Diablo? [SPEAKER_03]: But I'll offer me. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So this post came up on 4chan and not and it's tagged anonymous, not saying anything, not saying anything after this, please do not try to dogs me, but last night at [SPEAKER_02]: O415 count, they took him to the medical in a wheelchair, front cuffed, but not one trios nurse says they spoke to him.

[SPEAKER_02]: Next thing we know, a trip van shows up. [SPEAKER_02]: We do not do releases on weekends unless a judge orders it. [SPEAKER_02]: Next thing we know, he's put in a single man's cell and hangs himself question mark. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing, the trip van did not sign in and we do not have the record plate number. [SPEAKER_02]: and there was a guy in a green military that was riding in the back of the van with him according to the tower guy who left them through.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, and then they have, I was opposed to like the lead of right after from, and they, they don't, and they did block the sky and it proved that he worked at the jail. [SPEAKER_02]: And then they should now, with these releases, they have, they basically admit to faking his body being removed for the press. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, so not so, you have a guy [SPEAKER_03]: potentially as blackmail video and other correspondence of all these rich powerful people.

[SPEAKER_03]: The quick the case mysteriously when I'm mysteriously cases die when the person dies. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't You can charge a dead guy, right? [SPEAKER_04]: It also makes me think that with with the release of this new files my brain instantly went to Pizza gate was very close to what was happening. [SPEAKER_04]: It was just directed at the wrong thing like this App scene the app scene files are pizza gate [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't comet pizza.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it wasn't a little pizza shop front. [SPEAKER_04]: It was, it was this and the people in power kind of push it to that. [SPEAKER_04]: So crazy when they're like easily disproven that aspect of pizza gate, not a real comet pizza. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's no there's no basement there, but I'm like this is fuck dude you read these fucking emails Jeffrey that was the best best fucking egg plant and pasta I've ever had winky face you're like what the fuck who emails that dude?

[SPEAKER_05]: You know how good the fucking egg plant would have to be for me to email you specifically About the egg plant did you read the stuff or jerky [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're saying that's code for fucking human flesh eaten flesh like that's like, but when you read it, it's just doesn't sound right It's like based they're talking about jerky then the next correspondence is like basically Jeffrey is back to eating normal food now [SPEAKER_02]: So he's like off the jerky.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like just doesn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what? [SPEAKER_04]: The other thing is jerky is, is jerky is only eating on road trips. [SPEAKER_04]: This is known. [SPEAKER_04]: No one's fucking emailing about jerky. [SPEAKER_04]: jerky is a food you get when you're like, you don't go to a fucking, you're like, hey, cannibal. [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be in get. [SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna be on the fucking road tomorrow. [SPEAKER_04]: Should we get some jerky?

[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_04]: That would be the only instance where I can see an email being said be like, yo, road trip tomorrow. [SPEAKER_04]: Should I grab jerky? [SPEAKER_04]: And even that would be weird. [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be like, why don't you just text me? [SPEAKER_03]: Of course I got jerky. [SPEAKER_03]: Watch his bring it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just get the jerky. [SPEAKER_02]: You know we're both gonna eat it. [SPEAKER_02]: Another crazy thing about this too for me.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, even the people that don't have, like, there are damning stuff in there. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got mentions of like, oh, your little-less girl was very naughty. [SPEAKER_02]: Fucked up. [SPEAKER_02]: Talking to her nine-year-old Brazilians. [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about dead fucking foreign women on a Zoro, a Zoro's fucking property. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's horrible stuff in there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and then there's stuff where people are like, oh, well, yes, Donald Trump's name is mentioned that many times with there's nothing damning around him there's nothing there's no there's no proof that he's a pet and you go through and it's like the most damning thing for me is the fact that

[SPEAKER_02]: The majority of these people still had fucking regular contact with this man after two thousand and eight after finding out that he's a fucking convicted pedophile Like there's no defending that's the biggest red flag of all. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay You knew someone they get convicted like I had no idea. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll never talk to that guy again.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's over So I mean while you just continue into fucking visit the island and It's so every single person now that continued Correspondence with him.

[UNKNOWN]: I [SPEAKER_04]: needs to fucking be disposed they need to fucking come up and we need to know why and we need to know to the extent of their fucking relationship well and we we know now too that like he had a ring of like not only human trafficking but like potentially kidnapping or grooming young women for this like the sex trade. [SPEAKER_04]: the the fucking avenue that I went down with this new release.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so in this newest release, Jeffrey Epstein, um, kind of got really linked to the billionaire Leon Black. [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, he's linked to a huge money man. [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone with it seems like a bunch of money, Epstein was involved in their life. [SPEAKER_02]: Such a small community, right? [SPEAKER_02]: That have that type of money.

[SPEAKER_04]: So for them to all be kind of [SPEAKER_04]: Do you like the weird thing is is like Leon Black owns and founded Apollo Global Management Private Equity firm that acquired Shutterfly in 2019. [SPEAKER_04]: And Shutterfly own fucked up the Shutterfly owns life touch. [SPEAKER_04]: In life touch, if you've ever had your picture taken for school, that's done by life touch. [SPEAKER_04]: which means that at some point, absolutely got to do it, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen not only was grooming girls, but probably was flipping through high school, fucking like a fucking catalog. [SPEAKER_04]: And the information that life touch keeps is not only your pictures, but your names, your ages, what schools, your parents, contact information, and your address. [SPEAKER_03]: As all your personal info. [SPEAKER_04]: And life touch keeps all of that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fucking Leon Blackpade Epstein over 158 million dollars for tax and estate planning advice That's just tax and planning advice not anything Substantial advice 158 million yeah, that's what advice 2012 and 207 just as much even His 2008 sex crimes can be less because you know what happens is that guy [SPEAKER_03]: sits down at his desk at work and he sees a letter and then the letters address the return address his Epstein.

[SPEAKER_03]: He opens it up and it's the prior weekend, Biddling, a couple pictures he says there's backups. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's an invoice for my services. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, honestly, like, and that's what leads me to believe that this dude literally is still alive because he's basically the fucking Pito Batman. [SPEAKER_02]: He has a contingency plan for fucking every single member of the Justice League.

[SPEAKER_02]: Literally, he knew if you go his down, he's taking fucking everybody with him. [SPEAKER_02]: It's why he has fiction pictures of Bill Clinton and a fucking blue dress painted on his well. [SPEAKER_02]: Like this guy had dirt on every single fucking, like the connections of this man hand has no, there's a fucking email from like a fucking, a queen or a princess from Denmark, asking for fucking parenting advice.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like this guy's network does absolutely fucking insane like what is that code for because you're like is that really someone just asking for paint like that's the fucking weirdest thing ever And like at what stage after [SPEAKER_04]: You know, 2012 or you email me like, hey, just like they quickly email you about some parenting advice. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's fucking, it like that in itself to me is weird as an adult who has kids.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would never email either of you two idiots for parenting advice. [SPEAKER_03]: No, because I'm purposely, I would just give you bad advice anyway. [SPEAKER_04]: Never, never the last, I'm fucking guy convicted.

[SPEAKER_03]: that like in the public conviction of sex crimes involving minors is what are we doing and like uh... so you know there's a case against witty allen two right because of this [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's, wow, what do you add to the list of cases against the island? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's email right in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: It says, he sends, it's a, it's he's sending Jeffrey and email saying for the pedophile convention, or whatever, like, supposed to be French and Epstein replies back, I think it's pedophilia is the plural. [SPEAKER_03]: This straight up. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, come on, man, like, don't you know this fucking code? [SPEAKER_03]: And now you remember that old fuck guy's got a huge fucking case against him. [SPEAKER_04]: He's always been that way.

[SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't he with like his little niece or something? [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't remember the famous actress's name from River's movies. [SPEAKER_02]: But he... [SPEAKER_02]: I think you remember fucking the old SNL skit in the Namble of the Man Boy Lovers Association? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I remember that. [SPEAKER_02]: That was this man, that's this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Literally though, like... [SPEAKER_02]: But again, we just get across the fact that only names that are redacted in this are the fucking perpetrators. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why are we protecting these people? [SPEAKER_02]: If this was anybody else in the America, you'd be on a fucking neighborhood watch, you could Google your name, find out where you are, all that type of shit.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yet, living in this fucking two tier justice system where we basically, the elites are held to a completely different standard, like they owe it, like it just shows there is absolutely zero accountability. [SPEAKER_02]: for the elite class. [SPEAKER_03]: It's so wild to me that it's so wild to me that okay so Epstein's he's dead killed himself. [SPEAKER_02]: He's not dead. [SPEAKER_02]: Well I'm just saying he's not dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's a huge case with connected to all these people he dies. [SPEAKER_02]: He hangs out with him in an island. [SPEAKER_03]: He dies so the case dies because he can't convict a dead man. [SPEAKER_03]: And then instead of continuing the investigation and potentially dozens or hundreds of other people, they'd just go, and we just put that away. [SPEAKER_02]: There's only two guilty people, Jeffrey Epstein in Gisling, Maxwell.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then for a Casabescault to come back after this latest dump and go, we've looked at all the evidence, everything, there is nothing in there. [SPEAKER_03]: Not one thing that we would ever consider to pursue. [SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed that torture video you sent me. [SPEAKER_02]: Great stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: What did they think it's AI or something? [SPEAKER_03]: But this came from the government. [SPEAKER_03]: So the government would be putting out their own AI videos.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this would be... No, like, there's a fucking email that's like I really enjoyed the torture video. [SPEAKER_04]: And you're like, what the fuck is that? [SPEAKER_04]: Unredact that motherfuckers email. [SPEAKER_02]: Who is that fucking cruel? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think they, I think they've found a way because they linked to being like, because there's a hardness as like, I'll be in Beijing or something at this time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And somebody went as far to find out that, I think it was that you who'd Brock was in Beijing and that time, and that month and that year, and linked it to him, which again, increases those ties to fucking Mossad and pretty much backs up the fact that don't make that connection to Chad. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't talk about the state of Israel or we will not be talking about the state of Israel. [SPEAKER_04]: He might as well be a Nazi if you can see that.

[SPEAKER_04]: it's it's absolutely insane like this next list like just going through some of the emails like and some of the allegations coming out of there like I had the the the one allegation of like fucking and this is if you're been a trigger warning Trump he'd be like fucking finger in the fucking models to see if they how tight they were before fucking shipping them out you're like what the fuck was that an email that measuring them measured ready

[SPEAKER_04]: Not the guy who says grab by the guy. [SPEAKER_04]: Not my president, it's absolutely, it's absolutely fucked. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the state's just so fucking deep in it both sides. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's not talk to the states, because that's a perfect little segue here. [SPEAKER_03]: So we have a, you know, prime minister of Canada who hadn't lived in Canada and swooped in how long 10 years swoops in during the election.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the anti-Trump guy saved us saved us from Mr. Trump saved us, but even though he was up and we got fucking saved. [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he would be considered more like Trump than probably any other politician in the world. [SPEAKER_03]: He's an asset manager, hedge fund, banker guy, central banker, localist, globalist, globalist, like has all these connections wealthy.

[SPEAKER_03]: He would be more like Trump than probably any other politician, but he is the anti-Trump somehow. [SPEAKER_03]: He's [SPEAKER_03]: His wife, sister, was best friend with Jis Lane Maxwell, who is sentenced 20 years in jail for was a procuring underage girl for Jeffrey Epstein? [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he sexed for sex trafficking to no one. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_03]: I looked it up. [SPEAKER_03]: It is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a Jeffrey Epstein.

[SPEAKER_03]: And now she's been, what are they called in the States, plead the fifth, so she's a stain silent. [SPEAKER_03]: She won't answer any more questions about it. [SPEAKER_03]: Dead silence about all the connections, but she has been convicted for doing this for Epstein, who's a convicted pedophile. [SPEAKER_03]: And all these people, they're all friends. [SPEAKER_03]: After the initial prosecution, after all this stuff, there's no way you don't know something.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even if you don't know the whole picture, how do you not like walking, sometimes you just meet somebody or go, this is a bad dude, you know, it's all in the eyes, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It's all in the eyes, you're like something off here. [SPEAKER_02]: There's one to be of that interview that Steve Bannon who's also in the phone, the phone found somewhere in the giant first he's shit first off he's [SPEAKER_02]: well in there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's in there, but he did that interview with with Epstein. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys ever see that where he's basically trying to after the 2008 conviction basically trying to like do a documentary and clean his name up a little bit? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and in it, he's like, you know, people, I consider, you know, I consider the devil and they laugh about it. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like, no, like, this, these people are genuinely evil men.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no doubt my mind that Jeffrey Epstein is genuinely evil and carnit. [SPEAKER_03]: See what I mean, it seems to me. [SPEAKER_04]: I think these things, I think what happens is, like we've talked about before, it's like there's a different tier of society. [SPEAKER_04]: There's a tier like we all know and the regular discourse that brings, and then there's like a higher tier with these people with just Uber wealth. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think they view us as human.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't think they view us as even the same as them different species. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like we're pawns, [SPEAKER_04]: for their cattle for their play, like, you know, they're like, dude, this isn't, and they just don't, they've lost all humanity because they've just been in, like, enveloped in power and every few years. [SPEAKER_03]: I throw on 1984 on audiobook. [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: And every time I listened to him, I'm like, God damn, this was, this was just like George Orwell is saying how the world works. [SPEAKER_03]: There's this inner party of tight knit super wealthy elites there. [SPEAKER_03]: together, they formed these super continents, but like, all right, well, we have NATO and right now we're a war with whoever and then, but we're also going to supply them with weapons so they can defend themselves and then.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then the narrative flips, the two years later, all of the next guys are bad guy and they're at war with different, different states and anything about the party, the only the party knows. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you find anything, if you doubt the party at all, you're crushed. [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: It's insane. [SPEAKER_03]: It's good. [SPEAKER_03]: It's insane. [SPEAKER_03]: It's good.

[UNKNOWN]: It's [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like a sliver of humanity controls everything. [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard not to be a conspiracy guy right now, you know? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is the time, like I feel like this is the most. [SPEAKER_02]: Just consider you some people have ever been vindicated. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a dude, man. [SPEAKER_04]: Like we were talking about the show, how it's Jones. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Jones, we're like, he's battling with that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Take a look at that Sandy hook thing when we're trying to make sure he wasn't wrong about that. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, uh, because he's insane. [SPEAKER_04]: Like he is like, you know, he's been talking about this forever in this ring. [SPEAKER_04]: And pizza game. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like again, I think pizza game was a fucking near miss. [SPEAKER_04]: It was it was Had the right information, but directed at the wrong place and it should have been directed at it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Probably was purposefully. [SPEAKER_03]: It was deflected, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Let's run this story about this fucking pizza shop. [SPEAKER_03]: Even though these emails are definitely code. [SPEAKER_03]: They've had Countless like Like code breakers, but like yeah, there's obviously they're talking in code. [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way this is not real and doesn't make any sense [SPEAKER_02]: Ordering that mass of fucking hot dogs and shit like this doesn't make sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry shipping them like what the fuck are you talking about Dude you know Kate you know who's coming out not looking bad in this at all who's not mentioned ever fucking George Bush [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're not the one. [SPEAKER_04]: You would think that was just a useful idiot. [SPEAKER_04]: Like everyone in his serving is mentioned there. [SPEAKER_02]: What about that picture about him knocking down those block towers?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is. [SPEAKER_04]: He just thought he was having fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what I don't idea. [SPEAKER_04]: But that's the picture, right? [SPEAKER_04]: That's making fun of him because he was the useful idiot.

[SPEAKER_04]: right like it's kind of hinted at that like with uh chanie and uh what's the other guy's name that we're working with him uh to get him in power like like bush was just kind of a useful idea that like happy good lucky guy yeah I mean not involved in the files at all but again as Andrew said the start though it's not left or right here this is like this is a group of like

[SPEAKER_04]: All due to savage just as many people to Republicans as there aren't Democrats in these funniest thing I see is the current administration The fostering the posturing by either party knowing full well.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to do jack shit like you the Hillary and Bill being like we've called for a public hearing and we come we're like you fucking know It's not going to happen bills in it fucking's like third third most many [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody, none of these people are going to do anything because this is where all their funding comes from.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where all their donors, these guys are all their donors, these guys are the ones that are going to the universities and putting up all these fucking scholarships and all that type of shit. [SPEAKER_02]: These elites are being protected for fucking reason. [SPEAKER_02]: They bankroll all this shit. [SPEAKER_03]: People, sometimes I get into arguments, no, we'll now like dinner parties with other dads that I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes this [SPEAKER_03]: And like, well, if there's like a small group of elites, like, how would they ever control the world's like money to a lot, all the money actually, they own everything. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, say, like, wasn't like a thousand people in the world own more than 90% or something. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they fucking run the companies that own everything and the fucking conglomerates that own everything.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then you go to the other, and then the people, this is where you get like, you know, the all these new communist and socialist movements because capitalism isn't supposed to be this way. [SPEAKER_03]: You're supposed to have a nice, healthy skew from poor to rich. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not supposed to go like flat line and then just grade up, you know, trying to delete the middle class. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's pretty much how it goes.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're trying, it seems like you're trying to get put back into feudalism. [SPEAKER_03]: Where it's just lords and then everyone else. [SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference? [SPEAKER_03]: And we were not there yet. [SPEAKER_03]: Have we ever liked the stones from that person? [SPEAKER_03]: Most times in history, but. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as long as you if the fucking absene didn't find your picture on life touch didn't find you to be a peep. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we would have fucking rebelled and had the head, had the heads on fucking spikes by. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_03]: If this was the king and like a network of an army who just kept no, it's it happened sherbet's rare. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's we got to have our own William Wallace somewhere. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got guns now though.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just fucking march to the king and then with some shit like the box all our guns blocks and bows and arrows. [SPEAKER_03]: You just get blasted even to Seconds lots of guns around if you really wanted to form a militia Just not guns. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of guns Not like they got though. [SPEAKER_02]: Not here in America in America. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe different story. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know what else is fucked up [SPEAKER_04]: It turns out the other thing that came out in this, I just fucking popped into my head. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, the bane of every video gamers existence came up, which is all of a sudden video games started doing micro transactions. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God, ruin, ruin gaming. [SPEAKER_04]: And that comes. [SPEAKER_04]: Just like in 299 for this skin fucking dollar for this all right. [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you do that though?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fucking. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone does it. [SPEAKER_04]: You want a little leg up on everyone else? [SPEAKER_04]: Use another dollar if you know what. [SPEAKER_03]: The thing about that is though the micro transactions. [SPEAKER_03]: If you put out a free game, it's one thing. [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, that's a nice full paid game. [SPEAKER_03]: But if you like buy Call of Duty and then there's also Mike, you're like, come on.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it turns out that Mike would turn out that whoever's buying this, it's punks. [SPEAKER_02]: Because they can't even fucking convince me to spend the fake money in our creators. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's all. [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to be building the coins in our creators. [SPEAKER_02]: I got eight million, I almost have nine million coins. [SPEAKER_02]: That's insane. [SPEAKER_02]: I've never spent this single one.

[SPEAKER_04]: It turns out that micro transactions may have actually started. [SPEAKER_04]: from Epstein, giving advice to Activision CEO Bobby Cocktick, which was [SPEAKER_04]: while he was under sex-offender restrictions, there's him talking to him in like 2009, telling him about microtransactions and how they could utilize it in game to make more money. [SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, hell yes, Mr. Petophile. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just gonna talk to him.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if my local Petophile for advice. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let me just call my local sex-offender for advice on my fucking video game. [SPEAKER_04]: Damn, making. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Roblox people are definitely listening to the fucking sex offenders for advice on that game. [SPEAKER_02]: That game was fucked up. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he was on that game, too, apparently. [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, there's some un-un-substantiated rumors.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right now, they're just rumors in theories that they were using Epstein was using World of Warcraft, Second Life, and Roblox to Launder Money. [SPEAKER_04]: And the idea was that they were because those games at a point in time you could sell World Warcraft gold for real money that they were fucking sell it like buying and selling to longer money in game. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the least shitty thing you did.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, how do you, it's hard to laundry money if you have to, you have to push, put the cash into your account then because it's all digital. [SPEAKER_03]: So you can't really clean. [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to clean. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like unless you're, unless you're, unless you're making fake accounts, that send it to your account. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: Like overseas accounts, paypal or something.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, overseas accounts, fake accounts, buy the gold, sell you, send you the gold, you sell the gold, you cash it out. [SPEAKER_03]: Also kind of like modern day like Bitcoin. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah, it's fucked dude. [SPEAKER_04]: It's this guy. [SPEAKER_04]: It's fingers are in everything man. [SPEAKER_03]: It's everything in the way and that's the same and that's like that's the the big question right how how is this guy?

[SPEAKER_03]: How do you get so many really knows how we got started someone gave him like a 50 million dollar [SPEAKER_03]: like penthouse mansion. [SPEAKER_02]: Less wax work. [SPEAKER_02]: The guy that created Victoria Secret gave, he basically signed over his entire state and became the executor. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I want to fucking, every. [SPEAKER_02]: Why? [SPEAKER_02]: What happened there? [SPEAKER_02]: He had, he had, he had fucking, he was, he took a ride on the lawn.

[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't even graduate. [SPEAKER_02]: He fucking university and he became a teacher. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, doesn't, none of this shit makes sense. [SPEAKER_03]: He's not like some super finance, like math wizard. [SPEAKER_04]: No, he's a blackmailer.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's had that like that to me is like no 100% There's no evidence that you have operated a bit mass block a blackmail I can give me your best best cash betel again There's no evidence of it's good blackmail not not zero not Any kill yourself Case goes went to us a room by himself the cameras were off [SPEAKER_02]: And when the cameras wasn't working and then for some reason they, you know, the hard drive was completed deleted.

[SPEAKER_02]: He was put on suicide watch that took him out randomly. [SPEAKER_02]: He had a cellmate that was a giant jacked X-cop. [SPEAKER_02]: That was where they made no fucking statement didn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_02]: They still don't know exactly what he hung himself with because none of the fucking material in his room match.

[SPEAKER_02]: his legature marks and then you have remember that fucking famous doctor that did the autopsy on him the corner and they're like, yeah, his high-oed bone was fucking broken like nothing fucking made sense which means 99 out of 100 times it's strangulation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like it just doesn't it wasn't fucking claimed it wasn't from like the pulling of the rope on the bottom of the jaw like that it was that someone actually like fucking like [SPEAKER_02]: in the old snap or he's not actually fucking dead. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that in 2018 when the FBI opened the child sex traffic case against him like the one he actually ended up going down for.

[SPEAKER_02]: He ordered half a dozen 55 gallon containers full of sulfuric acid to his private land. [SPEAKER_04]: That's fucking weird. [SPEAKER_04]: That's that's fucking weird. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what are some fuck a lot of asses? [SPEAKER_02]: What are you using so fear gassing for on an at on your island like what would be the talk about they talk about Death the talk about torture. [SPEAKER_02]: They talk about getting rid of bodies.

[SPEAKER_03]: They talk about bodies buried on one of his properties like and again names are blacked out blacked out And he's also quoted as he has like a weird use of oops when talking about like permission to kill people and stuff because oops [SPEAKER_03]: So there's like 600 mentions of the same oopsie poops like all that guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably should be kills like whoops Any time talking about like underage girls whoops [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's, um, this kind of shit I just completely lost face and the other guy that's like the other guy in this that everyone's been like Who's everyone's been like it for the last like I have to five or six years of really about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: This guy may be fucking number one piece of shit or a boy Bill Gates [SPEAKER_04]: He actually comes out in this in the new in the new documents come out. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, hey, this guy's relatable. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, because he's the email. [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, he's like, hey, uh, I may have got SD from one of the Russian girls you set me up with is there any way that we could secretly spike my wife's This is wife with fucking

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, hey, if I'm Bill Gates in that role, I'm like, that is a very relatable That was not really what you're talking about, okay, basically this is also in the Epstein files It looks like a whole gaseous Russian girl first of all probably not very well Probably not that old, but it's uh, I was like, hey, that's you know what I didn't realize Bill Gates is There's so that way to get maybe reaches a top 10 in the Epstein files and engines

[SPEAKER_03]: And he like his defense is like oh yeah, he was always trying to get me to come in on these projects and blah blah But he was just vengeful at me, and that's why he would do this to me and you're like that's why he does my wife Melinda with fucking STD Listen if there's anyone who could so you're the super nerd right billgates Spend it as whole college life learning that a code creates Co-creates Microsoft blah blah comes over to scan the world

[SPEAKER_03]: he's never he probably never really got that swagger with girls this this fucking guy Epstein comes in tell us what got a great party gates gets there well the girl's a little young but he's not sure and next you know he's on video he's the prime candidate I would say if you're watching

[SPEAKER_04]: And you just hop on fucking gear like Bezos, get jacked or get hairplugs like fucking domestic, like you don't have fucking dead metal fucking doorkey musk might must be that Clinton got the invite and and the fucking only Elon didn't even get a response.

[SPEAKER_02]: He got a forward to his assistant that said deal with this Honestly, like we do joke around like I didn't mention you had like Clinton's been mentioned in this but like even before this [SPEAKER_02]: Clinton has been mentioned as a fucking sex offender. [SPEAKER_02]: I've spread like a sexual predator That guy's got how many fucking rate-bap you accusations. [SPEAKER_02]: You go back to boys.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean these are only though then You know When you look at when you look at boys on a mean like when you look at fucking smoke There's fire the guy's a fucking piece of shit when you look at no way around it the context of what happened here in Epstein and like the case of boys on the tracks you're like [SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, I like dude, it seems like you had a network of nefarious people that would be the old governor of Arkansas was a fucking bastard.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, I don't know man. [SPEAKER_04]: It's, um, yeah, the other one, uh, where was it? [SPEAKER_04]: Um, [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, Howard Lotnick Trump's commerce secretary making in 2012. [SPEAKER_04]: Again, after, after fucking, have you convicted? [SPEAKER_04]: He's arranging a trip to little St. James to have a, that's Epstein Island, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: With fucking kids, like he mentions, specifically mentions kids in their ages.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is coming like it's weird the way he mentions it. [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever looked into Howard Latinic? [SPEAKER_02]: Because I didn't really know a lot about him and I did a little fucking research in him and just like, give you a little breakdown of who this guy is. [SPEAKER_02]: Howard Latinic is a Jewish billionaire Wall Street executive that Trump appointed as his 41st US secretary of commerce in February of 2025, which is a kind of a weird title.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, [SPEAKER_02]: He's basically always hanging over Trump and all his media situation. [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't know that, he's always, he looks like you're far kind of the way he's out of. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So Howard Latinx primary residence is $20 million home-located at 971st New York City. [SPEAKER_02]: He purchased it in 98 still lives there today. [SPEAKER_02]: Who do you think directly lives next door to that about 20 feet away?

[SPEAKER_02]: Or did That scene right was Epstein. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh Epstein was Latinx direct neighbor for 21 years until a point of he was convicted for sex trafficking and sent a federal prison 21 years so they probably talked though. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just And also you remember you know like you know the Latinx fucking 911 story? [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, what's that? [SPEAKER_02]: Howard Lotnick, so Lotnick was the CEO of Canter, Fistare, located on Flores 101 to 105 with a North Tower.

[SPEAKER_02]: Lotnick was known to be present at his North Tower office every day leading up to 9.11. [SPEAKER_02]: But on September 11, 2001, he decided to drop his kids off at school, which ultimately spared his life, but 6508 of his employees died. [SPEAKER_04]: What?

[SPEAKER_04]: that's luck that's luck buddy that's super lucky might be the luckiest guy the planet that's really lucky like oh these people are fucking like it's just do you just wait wait wait wait wait wait stop right there we go this this for legality all these people potentially [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly, you'd be involved with Epstein and the shenanigans. [SPEAKER_03]: Because as Cass Patel said, there is no concrete evidence.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's all emails, and there was nothing to go on, right? [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing in all these millions, all these connections, nothing. [SPEAKER_03]: Even though we're going to redact them all, just in case. [SPEAKER_02]: This is fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, let's move on. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's a move on. [SPEAKER_02]: Should we just move on from this? [SPEAKER_02]: This is not a big deal, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a big deal.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing to see here. [SPEAKER_03]: This ultimate gaslighting thing of all time. [SPEAKER_03]: We have the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to run for president. [SPEAKER_03]: Say I'm going to release the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to become president. [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm going to say, what Epstein files? [SPEAKER_03]: Epstein. [SPEAKER_03]: We're still talking about Epstein.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and explain that they don't have them gaslight you for 10 bucks, it's a hoax, it's all this shit And then the entire representative government of the United States goes, give us this fucking file What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: What are you the guy around on transparency? [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: This, you may guys remember talking about Danny Castle Arrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: facet of you know mankind like it's just crazy this guy's network makes no sense why with this random finance year have these connections like it's puzzling honestly like it just doesn't make sense well when and especially when you look at like hey because you get brought up the Twin Towers

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like I kind of was wondering I was like how far does this app scene web go back like how how far could you kind of tie his involvement in the things and he Like during the 80s He had an Austrian passport and it had his photo, but a false name and it showed his residence as Saudi Arabia [SPEAKER_04]: Right, and like we know like I mean pretty well known there the the Saudis of the 911 guys, right? [SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty well known.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a bunch of Saudis were passed. [SPEAKER_03]: That survived a bunch of hijackers were Saudi. [SPEAKER_04]: I believe yeah, I don't think that and then it's like so it's like he he's living there He has a fake passport that in his possession that says he lives there Presence in his [SPEAKER_04]: So in George W. Bush's administration had stated in interviews, I was told absene belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone and absene was above his pay grade.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what the transition team for the George Bush administration said. [SPEAKER_04]: He also was part of tower financial corporation 1987 1993 and in 1993 the tower financial corporation imploded and was exposed as one of the biggest pawns he schemes in American history losing over 450 million of its investors money and like he's involved in that you're like you just so it's like you when you start to look back you're like man this guy was

[SPEAKER_04]: fucking part he would do he's linked to the Iran Contra affair in the 80s like dude every kind of like mainstream conspiracy that you look at in the past like 40 years this guy is fucking either involved in or like in the circle in the circle of it. [SPEAKER_02]: And the year before the Las Vegas shooting, Jeffrey Epstein was working with Mohammed bin Salam and involved in the potential purchase of the lands surrounding the festival site.

[SPEAKER_02]: Geez. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: They got links to COVID too, but it's the same thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I also, it's kind of fucking weird that it's just like, it's, isn't it fucking weird that all of a sudden how long has this guy been dead, he's died 2018? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden we release all these new files and now we're seeing the pictures of him walking around and fucking Israel and stuff like it's it is a little bit fucking convenient dude. [SPEAKER_04]: There's so many there's so many pictures to pop up on there. [SPEAKER_04]: Internet of a like a bearded long-haired guy and people are like people like is this who I think it is and they'll be like rock remove the hair and beard And you're like Motherfucker.

[SPEAKER_04]: Where do they go? [SPEAKER_03]: Okay Is this real? [SPEAKER_04]: Is this real? [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean? [SPEAKER_03]: There's this some some guy just has some random surveillance of a Jeffrey Epstein guy like at a dead end What's that upset you right now? [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen them [SPEAKER_03]: But also, we're in the era of anything is makeable. [SPEAKER_04]: Anything. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's one dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: Isn't isn't that a fucking isn't that a nice little out for all these fuckers, right? [SPEAKER_04]: No matter what gets released, everyone's going to be like, hey, oh, this is a bad tea. [SPEAKER_04]: This is fake. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't disagree, right? [SPEAKER_04]: It's actually like great cover, perfect cover. [SPEAKER_02]: That picture is him though. [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's AI or not, they've made it happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no there's no way that's not a screen.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I put in the group. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll show you right now. [SPEAKER_03]: Look at this. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way that's not him. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no fucking chance. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what I mean though. [SPEAKER_03]: We have pictures of him. [SPEAKER_03]: You can easily make any picture look like him. [SPEAKER_03]: So it looks nothing like him there and then it removes him.

[SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean, it does look like it looks just like it's got a huge it looks like Jeffrey Epstein was got gray hair gray beard and it's always that gray you can't see that Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_04]: There's no with that one's not convincing and I that looks like both these guys both these guys secure to your pieces. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't see that in this picture.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you just randomly hang out with fucking crew cut dudes and fucking leather jackets that walk like they got there. [SPEAKER_04]: I guarantee you, I guarantee you right now the both of these two guys walking in front of them. [SPEAKER_03]: G-shock watches.

[SPEAKER_03]: Both will show me the one because that one is for me the least convincing because I see in other words Or what what are you talking about when you're fucking crazy remove the beard and everything and you can actually see it Because right there that's too far away to really tell you can easily be a doppelganger [SPEAKER_02]: You have to be good. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's come up with. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got to rain it in here a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: That could easily be a doppelganger. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, fucking. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: That doppelganger. [SPEAKER_03]: Not a doppelganger. [SPEAKER_03]: That Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_03]: You look at that. [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Look, fucking. [SPEAKER_04]: Just like just the same. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the same. [SPEAKER_03]: Of all. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: doppelgangers though.

[SPEAKER_03]: Easy. [SPEAKER_03]: Of all the evidence that's presented. [SPEAKER_03]: And then that's the one you get. [SPEAKER_03]: Israel Hill on? [SPEAKER_02]: Israel Hill? [SPEAKER_03]: I got that. [SPEAKER_03]: I got that. [SPEAKER_03]: I got that. [SPEAKER_03]: I got that. [SPEAKER_03]: Do that is Jeffrey. [SPEAKER_03]: Where was that picture taken? [SPEAKER_03]: Israel. [SPEAKER_03]: Israel? [SPEAKER_03]: How do we know? [SPEAKER_03]: From the side.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the fucking bedroom. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the fucking street signs. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I mean. [SPEAKER_03]: That's easily. [SPEAKER_03]: You had to easily change that. [SPEAKER_02]: You know it. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, listen to this. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you always do. [SPEAKER_02]: But they used a photo of Jeffrey Epstein with if it's AI. [SPEAKER_02]: That's him. [SPEAKER_02]: Unfuckin' doubtably.

[SPEAKER_03]: They used out of the him in that picture. [SPEAKER_03]: Un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean anything you can on so you can make that video now.

[SPEAKER_03]: You probably just make that on fucking I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, so a surah whatever. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, 100% even. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I agree with you. [SPEAKER_02]: My opinion spectrum is specifically used to tell of you to make it if they did. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that him? [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it would work. [SPEAKER_03]: You would tell the audience of Jeffrey Epstein and make you a fucking basketball ganger to trick to trick three podcast hosts.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Do two podcasts. [SPEAKER_04]: If you had that kind of reach though, like, honestly, if I was in his shoes, and I had that kind of reach and that kind of sway, I would have a team that is pumping out fucking AI Slop of me all over the world at all times. [SPEAKER_03]: If I had his reach and his wealth and I faked my death, I would make sure to hire a plastic surgeon to change my face. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I saw a baby. [SPEAKER_01]: He gave the fuck it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just fucking face off. [SPEAKER_04]: You just cut the whole front of your face over there, pulling you out of jail. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to do fucking shit because they're never going to put it back in jail again. [SPEAKER_03]: Because you guys know, because he's in his room. [SPEAKER_03]: Was he, but he wasn't Jewish though, was he? [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, abstin. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think he was, you know, it wasn't like, I don't think.

[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't raised Jewish. [SPEAKER_03]: He's not from Israel. [SPEAKER_02]: He's not my fucking, [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, we don't know, like, he might have got his connections board and sword, he might have got his connections with Massaud through just laying Maxwell, because her dad, Robert Maxwell, right, absolutely an agent. [SPEAKER_03]: I heard that theory more.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's always the question, like, obviously, he had power and just like who gave it to him and how did he get it? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like he has no, he wasn't smart enough on his own just all of a sudden just God, he must have been smart man. [SPEAKER_02]: This guy was dying. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he was smart, but you don't have a network that big without help. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way No, he was placed in this position, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like maybe maybe sure he's placed. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he means in a place And then I find him would be so big and so I think I think it's I think he's he's a state actor. [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, he's a state asset [SPEAKER_04]: He's a high ranking state acid of a foreign nation. [SPEAKER_04]: Who's that foreign nation, do you want to say it? [SPEAKER_04]: I would say if you're reading everything, I would say points to Israel. [SPEAKER_04]: State of Israel.

[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: Objectively looking in his name. [SPEAKER_02]: It does. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they have a, like, about check. [SPEAKER_02]: Check this temple. [SPEAKER_02]: Being a fucking decolored Israel is real. [SPEAKER_02]: Israel is real. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying nothing. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm like, if you're objective looking, like, you have to pick one.

[SPEAKER_02]: How many times did hehood Barack fucking visit his place in New York? [SPEAKER_02]: It's like over 70 times. [SPEAKER_02]: Who is that? [SPEAKER_02]: He's, what do you, is it the prime minister? [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever is the leader not fucking net-know-you. [SPEAKER_02]: Hehood Barack or did net-know-you take over for him?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he's in this really prime minister president or yeah, he was and like and honestly it again the reason I say that to is like general and politics Like just to go back you look at the fucking you look at the mayor election in New York That's some most recent election and you would all the candidates up there and all the candidates But one when they're asked question, where would you visit first as a new mayor?

[SPEAKER_04]: The everyone was like Israel Israel Israel is like that's fucking like objectively weird That's weird as an American mayor not when you have Jews coming to fucking tunnels [SPEAKER_04]: Right, throw in benches at cops at the fucking super synagogues. [SPEAKER_02]: Just fucking his sick juice pop Not on the way fucking terrifying.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, hey, hey, but yeah, it's like I mean it's fucking strange It's a weird thing as like I'm fucking buried me saying that I'm like obviously the like there I'm sure there's a fucking large Jewish population New York not that big where it's gonna sway all the votes like that's fucking strange [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, there's another fucking strange thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Jeffrey Epstein's death was announced on August 9, 2019, and a letter by the southern district of the New York police in the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm 29. [SPEAKER_02]: The only issue with that is that he died on the 10th. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of funny. [SPEAKER_03]: He died on the 10th, and it was announced on the 9th. [SPEAKER_02]: Whoops. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like what? [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Q. Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Type-o.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, it could be a type-o, I guess. [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's just a case of, I mean, this is legal document. [SPEAKER_02]: Usually you have proof-free, you know, all of a sudden. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, that's just a case of the, first draft difference, right? [SPEAKER_04]: You're just not quite grasping how time differences work. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, times are, it's not, it's not flat. [SPEAKER_03]: The world's not flat as far as, you know.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right, the time zones down the road. [SPEAKER_04]: The time zones are weird. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, there's time, the weird stuff, it just stacks and stacks and stacks, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's yeah, that they're saying that one that image you sent Andrew is a fake photo. [SPEAKER_04]: But again, again, we're in a time. [SPEAKER_04]: We're in a perfect time. [SPEAKER_04]: We're it's like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's fake or not.

[SPEAKER_04]: Anything could be none. [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I'll say this. [SPEAKER_04]: Looking at that photo. [SPEAKER_04]: All their fingers look pretty good. [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. [SPEAKER_03]: Those days are gone. [SPEAKER_03]: Those days are gone. [SPEAKER_03]: They got the right well past that now. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not Will Smith with spaghetti fingers anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: I missed those times. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not what I would think of.

[SPEAKER_03]: You could definitely know. [SPEAKER_03]: You could definitely know. [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's like, now it's scary. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, now you can kind of tell what's like an ad. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't think that's a real person. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's pretty close. [SPEAKER_03]: Another year or two, you just won't be able to tell. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no. [SPEAKER_04]: We're in trouble.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're in big trouble, especially like, but like with stuff like this is like because they could release the unredacted stuff and then people could just flood the internet with all sorts of things and then you're just like, I don't even know what's real because there's so much shit out there that it's impossible to decipher what there's already been tons of them. [SPEAKER_03]: Like one of them was claim to be in the Epstein files with that Epstein was [SPEAKER_03]: Bitcoin creator.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's his name? [SPEAKER_03]: Nakamoto. [SPEAKER_03]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_03]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_03]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_04]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_04]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_03]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_03]: Sattimoto? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And turns out that actually wasn't in there. [SPEAKER_03]: It was doctored. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the way it ran wild.

[SPEAKER_03]: But what is in there is he might have been involved in some type of cryptocurrency, maybe not Bitcoin. [SPEAKER_03]: But it seems like he was working on some type of like crypto project. [SPEAKER_03]: or financing in crypto project. [SPEAKER_03]: And if he was involved in Bitcoin and he was like, that would, Bitcoin would explode, it would just die.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if it turns out like that, oh wait, this technology, everyone thought was the future is actually ran by this blackmailing. [SPEAKER_02]: The amount of connections that he had in Silicon Valley's first thing is fucking crazy, man. [SPEAKER_02]: How do you like how do you get like in those documents it definitely like there's an email under that refers to him as an angel or an angel as an agent of the Roth trial right like [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking crazy.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: First tell Rothschild. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, that's another interesting take. [SPEAKER_04]: You were, if you're like, okay, he wasn't an agent of a state. [SPEAKER_04]: He's the agent of like a super wealthy family. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm using him.

[SPEAKER_04]: By the ink ruling him to be like, all right, you're gonna go get blackmail for on fucking everyone so that we can basically sway whatever we want, however we want. [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you see what's happening in Europe now? [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's acts and guys that were involved, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like people are losing their lives over there. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, I'm not, I'm not pure star. [SPEAKER_02]: He's the fucking guys.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's the prime minister of the UK. [SPEAKER_02]: Is that sound right to you? [SPEAKER_04]: Nope. [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, you're a pianologist. [SPEAKER_03]: The local knowledge is almost zero right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's to armor is the prime minister of the of the UK.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was right, and he's got, he's got cabinet ministers and shit that are, you know, directly mentioned in these fucking Epstein files and they're getting turf, they're getting fired. [SPEAKER_02]: We've heard none of this coming from the fucking current administration. [SPEAKER_02]: We're like fucking members and the president himself have our mentioned more than anyone else and these fucking files. [SPEAKER_03]: and or are our politicians got just direct family connection.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yes, that's completely fair. [SPEAKER_02]: Like to be fair, Karni isn't mentioned. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: There's never an email to Karni. [SPEAKER_04]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_04]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_02]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_02]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_03]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_03]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_03]: They're sent from Karni. [SPEAKER_02]: He's a fucking sneaky Mr. Burns looking.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the eyes too, right? [SPEAKER_02]: He just got his eyes. [SPEAKER_02]: He don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I'd hope he's not. [SPEAKER_03]: I hope he's not a Pito. [SPEAKER_03]: I hope he's just like just a fucking shady business guy. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_03]: Like just take Mr. Burns. [SPEAKER_03]: Can we just do like a regular type of criminal? [SPEAKER_03]: Stormers. [SPEAKER_04]: Stormers. [SPEAKER_04]: Stormers.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fire. [SPEAKER_04]: Peter Mendelssohn. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, who would maintain close contact with Epstein post 2008 conviction more in McSweeney, which is his chief of staff and then it's community director Prince Andrew lost his fucking titles like the UK's doing the right thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, well, I think, well, I'm American. [SPEAKER_04]: He's just gonna say, I think like to one prince's name, I'm like, guaranteed there's fucking more.

[SPEAKER_04]: I also have a feeling that in the, because I think I feel like the heat on this is just not going away like people thought it would, and it's just like continuing on. [SPEAKER_04]: I have a feeling in the next little while, we're gonna see some sacrificial lambs being offered up. [SPEAKER_03]: The cities are out, [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're gonna. [SPEAKER_04]: They're gonna leak.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's gonna be enough information that's kind of left hanging in these that Internet sluice are gonna be able to fucking make some connections and these people are gonna get fucking You know, prosecute because the big thing now is like the prosecution can't be at zero for people on these empty files And it's like

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean you have you have musk now come out and he's he's saying he's gonna pay the legal fund for any one that comes out and is Any victims that come out and release like again. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting buddy you you tried to go You tried to be a part of a club like to me. [SPEAKER_04]: That's just as bad so that's that's for sure like I [SPEAKER_04]: Brother yes, the email, but they've read so bad. [SPEAKER_04]: It's him being like you.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm in the area I'm bored and I don't want to just party. [SPEAKER_04]: I want wild parties Tell me when you're most wild parties gonna be and then there's like Jeffrey Absing forwards that email to his assistant. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like deal with this [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, holy fuck dude, you were begging. [SPEAKER_04]: You were begging to go to these fun and party with them. [SPEAKER_03]: You were the boys. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, I never went to the island.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, but you tried to motherfucker. [SPEAKER_04]: You were trying to. [SPEAKER_04]: And obviously based that out of 2008. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, fuck. [SPEAKER_04]: After, like, obviously you were fucking, I actually don't know if it was 100% after 2008.

[SPEAKER_04]: But. [SPEAKER_04]: I think most of this stuff right now in this lightest drop has been but it's like you still knew like you obviously We're in the know that's why you're asking about these fucking wild parties and emphasizing wild as like so you wanted to go You know what I mean you wanted to be there What are you gonna say now?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I was gonna white night when I got there and save all the fucking girls Yeah, I didn't know I didn't know [SPEAKER_04]: It's so fucking it's such a bad look in my opinion. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, you're helping now, but it's like well, there's not a super nerd like fucking gates, right? [SPEAKER_03]: You want to be part of the party wants to go where the action is he's never really been part of the group, you know, he's ever been one of the boys.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, isn't Stephen Hawking there, too? [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly I heard that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but listen me and Zell cracks even Hawking Steven Hawking was just a fucking corpse basically in a chair That big science was using to promote their fucking idea of gravity. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we we've we decided he was a clone wasn't he? [SPEAKER_03]: You died. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you died. [SPEAKER_04]: They just had them in the chair and someone was type like talking type that fast.

[SPEAKER_04]: They were talking for him. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: All after 2008 2012 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right, right. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll have to test 25 running. [SPEAKER_04]: 2012 was when he said, hey, what day or night will be the wildest party on your island? [SPEAKER_04]: December 2012 asking about travel logistics, expressing I need to hit the party scene. [SPEAKER_04]: like, dude, you have a fucking billion dollars.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why are you making it grow your other fuck parties? [SPEAKER_04]: Why are you messaging? [SPEAKER_04]: Known, human trafficking convict. [SPEAKER_04]: It's because you wanted the hook up, dude. [SPEAKER_04]: That's why he the motherfucker wanted. [SPEAKER_04]: He's got fucking 13 kids with 25 women. [SPEAKER_04]: It's insane.

[SPEAKER_04]: Guys are fucking [SPEAKER_04]: The guy's laying it, laying pipe where he's doing his part to a reverse like, population, honestly, I was like, reading these emails, I was like, dude, this doesn't, I was like, this is sad because you wanted to be involved. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, so don't white knight everyone now, I'll be honest with you. [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, you're saying you got this there. [SPEAKER_03]: He got like, I never was there. [SPEAKER_03]: You got lucky.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, that's like a fucking 1945, like someone trying out for the SS and they're like, you don't make the cut, you can't pass the physical. [SPEAKER_04]: And then they'd be like, I never, I was never there. [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, yeah, but you try to out six times. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't do 10 times. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't do 10 times. [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't do 10 times. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't be in the Nazis. [SPEAKER_04]: You can't be in Nazi.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, go home and you're like, [SPEAKER_04]: I was never an artist like you tried out you said how much you you wanted to be Yeah, still they didn't lie. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she didn't We've never done anything else during that period [SPEAKER_04]: That he refused repeated invitations. [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't refuse shit dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: You were never invited You were fucking the email plainly make out that Elon Musk was fucking begging for an invite low When you come on when are you around? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's so crazy. [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, oh dude I heard Bill was it Bill Gates not me [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but Bill Gates can jump over a chair. [SPEAKER_04]: I seen the video. [SPEAKER_04]: That's fucked. [SPEAKER_04]: He's got vert. [SPEAKER_04]: That's fucking cool. [SPEAKER_04]: 36 inch vert.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I've been with you that honor Trump's following. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, with abstine. [SPEAKER_02]: It's still. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think saves him. [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's fucked. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, truck, dude, Trump is so implicated in this, too. [SPEAKER_04]: It's insane. [SPEAKER_04]: He's in my, implicated, he's one of the most. [SPEAKER_04]: But again, again, it, it's, everyone on the left. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, the fucking Trump's getting that.

[SPEAKER_04]: The Democrats had all this when they were in power. [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't release any of it because everyone on the left. [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's in it. [SPEAKER_04]: is involved, implicated as well, both of them. [SPEAKER_04]: There's never going to be a public hearing with Bill and Hillary. [SPEAKER_04]: They're just saying that because they can, because they know it's never going to happen. [SPEAKER_04]: Right? [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, they're like, they can publicly say that to kind of drum up support for them. [SPEAKER_04]: But it's like, they're just not the ones that can do anything. [SPEAKER_04]: So they're like, perfect. [SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to do it. [SPEAKER_04]: That'd be like in four years now, if the Democrats get on Trump being like, I'll sit in a public hearing about Epstein. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, let's do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, [SPEAKER_03]: that's what that's the conspiracy right that, you know, it's two sides of the same bird two wings of the same bird, and that bird is the head of this giant blackmailing operation syndicate this the biggest conspiracy may be to ever live

[SPEAKER_04]: What, dude, it just makes me think about how many conspiracies that we talk about, is this, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is it totally, is

[SPEAKER_04]: I ran contra fair. [SPEAKER_04]: You can connect until the largest fucking positive team in American history. [SPEAKER_04]: You can connect them loosely to a couple other things. [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm just like, if you don't really do a deep dive, it's like, how far did those 10 to close go? [SPEAKER_04]: Like, can you connect this to some money with 9-11 with what was going on then? [SPEAKER_04]: Like, how many of these fucking things is this fucking group of people?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, right now we're fucking hyper focused on fucking the child. [SPEAKER_04]: pedophilia rings, sections we should be rings as we should be. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's any worse than that. [SPEAKER_04]: To me, that's just an arm of it. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I have a feeling it's fucking goes every which way. [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's fucking, I bet it's. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the arm that traps everyone.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then once you're trapped, the other atrocities you commit. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, you're gonna prove, you're gonna prove, you're gonna prove these drone strikes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what we need to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna prove this border crossing [SPEAKER_03]: 100% right you're gonna you're gonna allow this drug into your country to corrupt your poor and your weak profit like where's this where's a stop you know where's this that's fucking I hope like an optimist I'd be like all right you got Epstein you got a small network everyone gets convicted [SPEAKER_03]: We bust open the conspiracy, and we start fresh.

[SPEAKER_03]: But then the other side you're like, you get a couple, you get the fall guys, and then everyone else just walks free. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if there's hundreds of people deep, super wealthy, there might be a fall guy, like you guys were talking about, there might be one or two that they like low hanging fruit that they pluck up and they give them five or 10 years for whatever crime involved with Epstein and then everyone else, they're like, see we got him.

[SPEAKER_03]: and all the big, big names, this kind of skate through it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, if you sent an email anything like this to anyone and it was sent to the RCMP, you're probably getting an knock on your door. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a clear, two-tier justice. [SPEAKER_02]: Big time. [SPEAKER_02]: Clear.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you can't email, there's someone in that had some weird code and someone's like, man, I think this guy, like, sums up with this guy. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys should look into his, [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was online history of something and they opened up a warrant and they went there like yep, so rest him

[SPEAKER_02]: these people are gonna get away squat free just like they did when you know like justifying the WMDs and starting a war in Iraq just like the fucking finance disaster which led to the fucking recession all those bankers would happen to them any accountability nothing any counter the banker and fucking and and you know the whole covid disaster no like there's no accountability like any of these fucking people that kind of that kind of stuff like the financial disasters that most insane shit they're like all right these bankers willingly did this

[SPEAKER_03]: technically probably illegal if you really wanted to go down the law, but we're going to bail them out with them your taxpayer dollars, which they actually lost your money by doing all. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're just going to bail them out. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: What's that's not that's not fair. [SPEAKER_03]: But if I did this shady shit and people lost their money, I would go to jail.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dude it makes me, it makes me wonder that if like, uh, because the, the pizza gate was heavily tied to the pedestal emails, right? [SPEAKER_04]: The pedestal email links. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: It makes me wonder that if abs seem was running this, because like, dude, those code words eggplant and fucking jerky pizza and all that shit that you read in pizza gets in these files.

[SPEAKER_04]: And [SPEAKER_04]: like yes innocuous and codes but it's like also in the context of like human trafficking because we know that that's what was going on in this situation which was just inferred in the pedestrian emails people were like maybe this is happening.

[SPEAKER_04]: So part of me wonders if they were running like yeah fucking absentee was running this fucking huge like global spanning [SPEAKER_04]: network of human trafficking and this kind of stuff but pedestrian those pedestrian emails were like hey, we had fun of these probably we're gonna do our own little fucking local local stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like some of them read very similar like the wording and stuff and you're just like yeah People claimed afterwards the pedestrian emails was like it could have just been fucking talking about food and you're like yeah Well, I don't think abstaining is fucking comrades were

[SPEAKER_04]: talking just about food here and it's pretty known that they weren't so now like when you revisit those emails you're like fuck they do not read good like the like the whole thing of pizza gate being a hoax I'm like I don't think that was a whole hoax anymore I think it was a a misdirect there was a fucking expert [SPEAKER_04]: very well orchestrated, misdirect. [SPEAKER_04]: Once that information started to come out and that was the pointed out a pizza place.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then you remember like the owner of the pizza place is boyfriend or husband or whatever was one of the main media guys that owned the company that did the biggest fucking campaign to expose it as a hoax. [SPEAKER_02]: And like you guys remember the fucking Instagram page, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Like the emails are fucked, but you remember comment pizza's Instagram page, right? [SPEAKER_02]: No, like fucking bizarre.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like kids fucking taped up with their hands on fucking tables. [SPEAKER_02]: So we're gonna check, you know, we're like, like, I don't do it. [SPEAKER_04]: That's weird. [SPEAKER_04]: It made me, it made me, it made me think that that. [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, because I mean, we, at the end of the day, we chalked that up, we read that. [SPEAKER_04]: We look and we're like, yeah, it's fucking, like it doesn't really track.

[SPEAKER_04]: But now with this stuff, you're like, it tracks a little, [SPEAKER_04]: It tracks a little. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there was stuff that's still tracked in it. [SPEAKER_02]: Like stuff that just didn't make it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 100%. [SPEAKER_04]: But there wasn't enough substantial stuff to be like, you know, this is I believe this without there was enough to disprove it that made you kind of made me personally shift to like, it's probably not true.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's fucking weird. [SPEAKER_04]: Like some of this stuff is weird and doesn't really. [SPEAKER_04]: Isn't really passing the sniff test, but like it doesn't add up to what the pizza gate theory was But it was like now when you read this. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like I don't think it was like I think the pizza gate aspect of it was the Mr. Act But I'm like I think that that's what we were reading those pedestal emails We're just an extension of what we're reading in these abstinence.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's no way that those circles weren't like intertwined No, no, they like there's no way. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah bunch of weird shit [SPEAKER_04]: depressing the pressing man and even if it's like only like 1% true it's videos like the videos that you can look up a fucking app scene like dance with a little kid. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there's a lot of bad shit that we're not doing. [SPEAKER_04]: It's been so fucking sick.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, oh, what the fuck is that going over that? [SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck? [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's tons there's tons of weird videos like and even I think we had this talk with Dan once about like Biden sniffing girls hair and stuff like he just an old man. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fucking weird. [SPEAKER_00]: There's weird. [SPEAKER_03]: There's weird. [SPEAKER_02]: There's smell. [SPEAKER_02]: It's sniffing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's sniffing people. [SPEAKER_02]: He's so drunk on the Kulei. [SPEAKER_02]: He'll never admit it though. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy to me. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's live in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_03]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_03]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_03]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_04]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_04]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_04]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_04]: He's living in a bowl. [SPEAKER_04]: He's living [SPEAKER_02]: So he's trying to be certain, scared. [SPEAKER_05]: He made what that's in there. [SPEAKER_02]: That's in there. [SPEAKER_05]: That's in there.

[SPEAKER_05]: Potentially another hit. [SPEAKER_05]: Orphan. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he's Joe. [SPEAKER_04]: Orphan. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's fucking, it's fucked up dude. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's, it's real life horror shit. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't even want to think about it. [SPEAKER_03]: But there's not enough evidence to pursue any avenue of investigation. [SPEAKER_04]: I will tell you right now. [SPEAKER_04]: My kids are not getting their fucking, [SPEAKER_04]: school photos done.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting back to sleep. [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck no kids already have their pictures. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Facebook is that Canada to the same company same company life touch baby can a US I'll take them on my phone. [SPEAKER_04]: If you ever if you ever like dude let me tell you something you're there Zell you're fucking a little kid information.

[SPEAKER_04]: some fucking pito was probably flipping through and he's like, well, you know what, I'll fucking put a little star by it beside him. [SPEAKER_04]: He looks cute. [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I've seen your guys' pictures up at Rose Valley Elementary. [SPEAKER_02]: You guys were past where you were making the cut. [SPEAKER_02]: You guys were pushing. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, you guys were fucking doing that. [SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't mine, okay, that's drinking.

[SPEAKER_03]: You guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking.

[SPEAKER_03]: You guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking, you guys were drinking. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, oh yeah, jerky boys for sure, 100%.

[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, we got we got a wrap up that are pressing shit here, but so many people that you got to talk about the Epstein files, and it's a good conversation to have just for awareness, not left or right, not political leaning just like gross weird shambon says if they prosecute everyone that's in the files and involved the US government will collapse collapse it's all you got to know it's inner party rules for thee, but not for me whatever the saying is, yeah, that's the same.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's like we can do this shit and if you just tweet one bad thing about the president We're gonna come to your house and rest you not the president But it's like the majority of people don't want to do this shit you're doing stop like fucking stop. [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucked [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's weird.

[SPEAKER_04]: My prediction is my prediction before the year out, we have a couple prosecutions of people that are implicated in the files, and they're going to be like the fucking to appease the public. [SPEAKER_04]: The public guys, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: A couple of all guys, probably some low-level politicians or something, they can't really roll on anyone, or they're going to be like, be told like, hey, you're taking a hit, and if you do anything with a fucking kill your family, whatever, like, [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to get suicide at the end of your life. [SPEAKER_03]: How deep is how deep to the tentacles run?

[SPEAKER_04]: But buddy, we might have to revisit all octopus syndicate because I have a feeling that this guy was just fucking touching an arm of this. [SPEAKER_04]: How did he die? [SPEAKER_04]: I think he died in a weird way, didn't he? [SPEAKER_02]: He fucking killed himself in the bathtub where we discussed. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: No man ever wants to be found dead naked in the bathtub. [SPEAKER_02]: Float with your float. [SPEAKER_03]: Little pig snouted up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Little head fucking floating. [SPEAKER_02]: Big snout in it. [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wants that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, die like a man and drive off a cliff or something. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll take it and do a flip. [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got one beauty support in the show. [SPEAKER_03]: One person who's definitely not on the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_03]: Not in there. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to be on the Epstein files.

[SPEAKER_04]: You hate to fucking. [SPEAKER_04]: You prove it to us. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll be on the Epstein files in no time. [SPEAKER_03]: Unless you go to Patron, you search Rayleigh and tears to your eyes. [SPEAKER_03]: Like this beauty james. [SPEAKER_03]: When can Hymer? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, James Wink and I'm 100% not involved in UFC Files week vouch for him 100% beauty 100% not in for everyone else listening.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's not on our patron probable You know for the fucking [SPEAKER_04]: get your name read by us next episode that's a new thing at the end of at the new at the end of every episode on the Epstein list we're gonna lead we're gonna read everyone's name who's not on the Epstein list uh starting with our buddy James here [SPEAKER_04]: Just for peace of mind.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you want to make sure that everyone knows you're not on the Epsilon, head to patreon.com slash theorist Todd and make sure you got to pay at least $5 to get your fame off the list. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: To make sure you're not one of the sacrificial lands of the government tosses up and clear your name now and get a ref show.

[SPEAKER_04]: And as we always say at the end of these things, keep those eyes on the skies. [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that's a really good sales pitch, maybe for this. [SPEAKER_04]: I can write some out.

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