¶ Intro / Opening
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¶ Introduction: Welcome to Album ReBrews!
[T heme Music ]
Hey, welcome to Album ReBrews. It's a podcast where we pair of favorite drinks with our favorite albums. I'm Logan,
I'm Sarah. I'm Zac. And this week on Album ReBrews, we're brewin' a, a very good, good album. It's going to be Talon of The Hawk by the front bottoms. It's their fourth album coming out in 2013 and it is best paired with a Tecate tall boy let's get into it. I'm going to add a little bit of lime, a very part or a very important part of the Tecate experience, which I was not previously aware of. Um, but Logan put me on to is squeezing a healthy wedge of lime into your beer.
I will , uh , I will explain why also one time at Schubas, which is a venue in Chicago. Uh, I was seeing some friends bands play and I ordered a Tecate and the guy just put a lime in it and it changed my life. He'd just a wedge of lime squeezed into the opening of the cans.
Classy move ,
Classy move. Really good.
I agree.
I don't think that you should have a Tecate any other way.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so what we're going to do is we're going to kind of go through a couple of tracks, a couple bits of lyrics, a couple bits of music that we think really embody this album, the, and The Front Bottoms, just kind of as a whole.
¶ Opening Track: Au Revoir (Adios)
And , uh, Zac, you were kind of leading this discussion since this was the album that you presented. So you picked a couple of tracks that you think are really important to talk about. And we're just going to kind of start there. I liked that we all had some, some interesting thoughts in this first tune Au Revoir, am I saying that right. I don't know what it means. Well, how appropriate. Um, and I like, it's just, it's like a minute and a half tune.
Um, and it's got like three stanzas that just repeat, and he's just changing the word for goodbye to like three different languages. Um , and it's so simple, but he's also saying a lot of meaning in it. It's really, it's kind of silly. Uh , I remember listening to this and being like, Oh , like that's so goofy.
Um , I mean, you'll hear this, but he's, he's kind of just , uh , it's like , uh , him and this girl just like patronizing each other about not knowing French or not knowing Spanish or , uh, not knowing about rock and roll. Well, and I read a couple articles that it's like, it's deeper than that. It's like, Oh, you don't really know what I mean. Like, you don't really know what goodbye means. And it's like, cause he's yeah.
Oh, well , yeah . I mean , the thing that I was going to say is the lyrics changed from you don't think that way you don't think you don't, you probably.
Logan , uh , has had two regular size Tecates and is working on his tall boy now.
The words change, from you probably don't even know what that means to you don't understand what that means. And I think that's the poignant part.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so we selected a little timestamp , uh, to reference, but there's this really awesome part of the song where it goes from being pretty repetitive, pretty, just kind of upbeat , um, to where it really gets into the meat .
[Excerpt from Au Revoir (Adios) by The Front Bottoms]
I didn't notice , uh , the change in the verbiage Logan that you mentioned kind of starts off with , um, he's saying, 'au revoir' or "aur revwar" is kind of how he says it, which was very Americanized anyway, but he says like , uh, it , it seems like he's talking to this girl and says , uh , you probably don't understand what that means, or you probably don't know what that means. And, and then she responds by saying adios and he's like, you think, I don't know what that means.
And then rock and roll. You don't understand what that means. It's very interesting. I didn't know this. I didn't notice that.
This is a fun little song. It's a fun little opener .
It is! Oh, it's a great opener. It's like, I have not listened to this album in full before today, full disclosure. I hadn't. I mean, I've heard that some pieces of the front bottoms, you know, here and there. And I'll talk about that more. But , um, I think this is a perfect like introduction, like, Oh, Hey, who are the front bottoms? What's this album going to feel like, play this.
A little goofy, a little sad, A little goofy, a little sad, a little scream-y a little headbanging, a little gang vocals-y.
¶ What's our experience with this album? + A Fun Anecdote from Zac
I personally did not have a lot of experience with the front bottoms. I'm curious of what the case is with you guys. Zac, you seem to have had the most experience. You own this album on vinyl. You picked it. Uh , so it's a funny anecdote. So my girlfriend of five years, we started seeing each other and she had a front bottom sticker on her laptop. And I'm like, I should get into these guys so we have something to talk about. This is a woman with taste!
Well, I hadn't ever heard listen to him either. Like full discography got super into them and- Just for your girlfriend. And then I found out she just like, got the sticker from free somewhere. She doesn't even play . And now like , they're one of my favorite bands from my college years. Like when I listened to them , I think of junior year. I'm like, Ugh, that's so funny. I love that. Oh, I love that that was your story.
Mine is not as good. We used to make fun of The Front Bottoms when I was in, I don't know, when they were popular like when I was in high school. Yeah . And they were a band that people would like mock because the singer is whiny. And uh, I asked my younger sister if she had a Front Bottoms phase, like recently when Zac mentioned this album and she was like, yeah, I used to listen to them on ironically, and I was like, they're a band that people listen to ironically?
Oh my God.
And I, I think part of that is just because they've become like synonymous with like that emo sound and yeah , I think like as the fore bearers of the genre, like you don't, you don't become iconic without also becoming a little bit of like.
A meme.
A meme. Yeah. Um, so yeah, before this album I was, I was kinda like, all right , I'll listen to The Front Bottoms.
Insane. I mean, I was
¶ Are The Front Bottoms Midwest Emo?
, uh , I was trying to do my research to prep for this. And , uh, I was Googling , um, "are the front bottoms . . .," Because we, we're in a climate right now where there's a lot of allegations of sexual assault. There's a lot of allegations of racism. Um, and I wanted to make sure that we were talking about bands, that we had morals that we agreed with. So I was trying to, you know, suss them out, see if they were good folks and they, full disclosure, they do seem to be.
Um, but when I typed "are the front bottoms. . .," The first, [giggles] the first result was Midwest emo. [all laugh] I think that goes to show like how heavily they really influenced that sound, that kind of whiny pining group vocals, head bang in "riff-a-licious" , uh , sound, What was the Google answer, was it yes or no? No, absolutely not! They're from New Jersey! But yeah, like you see it reflected in Midwest emo. You see it reflected in emo like happening on the West coast.
You look at like mom jeans. They're huge right now. And you know, there's , uh , there's a lot of like trumpet riffs and stuff like that on this album that are so much, I don't want to say like replicated, cause they're not the exact same, but it's certainly, it's gotta be a reference. Well, like the trumpet tone, which was recorded in a bathroom, I found out and like a lot of the acoustic guitar reminds me a lot of neutral milk hotel, which is very folk pop punk. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.
I it's like , uh, I mean, not to be, "not like other girls", but I'd like to consider myself a good connoisseur of in indie emo kind of music, but I didn't realize how influential they were and I didn't listen to them and didn't realize how much of the music I liked that they influenced.
To, to speak to the like, are they Midwest emo point?
Yeah.
When, when this album finished, Spotify started like auto-playing related artists and the ones that came up immediately after we were like Prince daddy and the hyena, hot Mulligan, Jeff Rosenstock. It was like, as soon as this album ended, everyone that has been influenced by them started as like, they're , they're a big deal because of the genre that they haven't created, but have influenced.
Yeah, have definitely become like a poster child for it's like, is this is this Midwest emo. And then you come across all these like Midwest bands and it's not, but it is.
It just so happens that everyone who lives in the Midwest decided to write the same kind of music.
I mean, there's nothing better to do here.
¶ Track 2: Skeleton
All right. Uh, what , uh, so Au Revoir, opening title, opening title track. Skeleton, we don't, we don't really care for as a group. We-
It's cute.
We talked about this a little bit. Well, okay . I think this plays into like the, the front bottoms are a meme kind of thing. It's like some of their lyrical decisions are just like goofy.
Oh, I love it. It sounds like a diary entry half the time it's telling your friends- It's written like a country song, like everything he's talking about is happening to him or had happened to him , except he's not. [mocking singing] It's cold outside and I have a freezy pop in my teeth. It's like , that's what it sounds like. I don't think those are actual lyrics.
They could be. We should write a Front Bottoms song.
Um , but we did think that some of the lyrics in skeleton or very cute , uh, again, like this was my first pass at the album and I was listening and there's a bit aware , uh, let me pull it up real quick.
[ First excerpt from Skeleton by The Front Bottoms ]
[ all laughing ]
And then there's a second part of the song that we really liked , uh, talking about, you know, someone being inescapable and we'll play that right now.
[ Second excerpt from Skeleton by The Front Bottoms ]
Relatable! King of metaphors. Student loans, oof. Yeah. Yeah. But I really do love that energy, especially in songwriting. I love , um , uh , I'm going to make you guys talk about Jens Lekman, but Oh, we'll get there. Oh , we'll get there. Um, but again, like hyper, hyper autobiographical , um, to the point where like , uh , there's a song by him entirely about like his hairstylist and the way he loves when she cuts his hair. And I think that's so charming.
It's like , uh, just, just being literal for the sake of being literal. I liked , I like that you pointed out that there's some motifs throughout this album and one of them is the trumpet part. Yeah . Um, I, I don't really know what else to say about that. It feels like , uh , like a brush painting over a lot of the album and it made it kind of a , Oh my God.
My art school is showing, but like , um, to, to have that trumpet with that tone painted over multiple sites , it feels like , um , I don't know, I'll allow like Picasso's blue period. It kind of ties. I know what that means. Exactly. It ties , uh , it ties these songs to this album, to this point in their career to this like sort of musical moment to me. And I have a less sophisticated metaphor. Yeah. Um, you know, in suicide squad, they say, what is this some type of suicide squad?
And you're like, Oh my God. That's when I'm like here at motif for Pete and through the album, I'm like, Oh, that's the guitar leak . Like I, you know what though? The blue period part makes a lot of sense to me. It is very indicative of like where they were at this point. Absolutely. We're going to put trumpets in folk emo . Yeah. And then everyone after that said, we're going to do that too . Absolutely. And I mean, you take that over too .
I think of like, like , uh, um , like panic at the disco, you know, they have an album that's very like hippy think pretty odd. It's like hippy , we smoke a lot of weed, very gay. And then you go to a fever, you can't sweat out. And it's very like Baroque. It's very theatrical. And like, and it genuinely feels like, I mean, this doesn't do it to the same degree, but they feel like artistic kind of movements or periods. You know, you talk about cubism, you talk about modernism, postmodernism.
Um, I don't know, things like that that are just big words that people like to use to describe aesthetics. Uh, and that really can be tied to not just visual art, that music too . Oh yeah. Like , um , there's that like alternating guitar, like the guitar lick is just like, like two notes alternating on two different strings. Yeah. And there's like five songs, the album that use this. Yeah. And it's just like, Oh, there it is again, like do do , do , do do .
And it helps, it makes it so cohesive and familiar. Like you, you come back to this album probably after years and years and think like, Oh yeah, that's talent of the hoc . Like, that's what that sounds like. Yeah. Yeah.
¶ Track 3: Swear To God The Devil Made Me Do It
A fun fact. This was almost the name of the album, swear to God vanilla. And we do it really first tune they wrote on the album. Oh , it sounds so much like a ,
Like that brand new album, the God. Oh, devil and read , it gives you that same vibe, but like way different music. One of the few things I should have done more homework. One of the few things I did read is that the, the title of this album came from like the lead singer drawing a picture of a pocket knife, like in a, in a journal , uh , while they were on a tour bus. And he was like, I don't know. I just think like pocket nicer. Cool. So he was drawing pocketknives and wrote the name.
Hawk is based off of a character in the TV show, twin peaks, there's this native American , um, police, detective who's one of the side characters and his name is Hawk or his nickname is Hawker or whatever. Uh, and he writes talent of the hoc underneath the knee , uh, the drawing of the pocket knife. And then he took it to the studio when they were trying to decide on album names and everyone was like, Oh, that's cool. Okay. We'll do that.
I think it's a pretty neat, that's how I like named the whole album. Every song has like a goofy reasoning. We'll get there, but like, like lone stars from a beer, they just liked to drink silly goose content. Cause if you boys, yeah. There is one part in swear to God that we were kind of talking about like the trumpet and that's a really , uh , well painted portion of this album's canvas.
[inaudible]
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It's delicious, but just in the back. So nice sets the mood for the album. Little
¶ Track 4: Twin Size Mattress
steps . It's really delicious. I'm scared of talking about this next one. I am too. This is like probably this is the biggest, I think it's too big for us. We can't talk about it. Okay . Zac, you made a really , uh , uh, you made a good note saying, you know, how big the song is and how much weight it carries because it's the most played song on Spotify. How many zeroes is 1,000,006 total? So 37 million. It's a population of California referencing , let's get some scale here.
Population of California is 39 million. That's typically everybody there listened to the student , everyone in California, honestly, probably. Uh, well, okay . I was talking earlier about how I didn't realize that I knew pieces of this album before Leno listening to it front to back.
And I mean, big surprise twin size mattress is one of those songs that I didn't realize I had heard and like new portions of, and I'm going to get real gen Z on you, but there's a lot of front bottoms music being used on tick tock, especially the ,
And this is a weird genre of internet content, but there's a lot of , um, kind of like younger gen Z folks who use front bottoms , music as sort of this like dramatic sound track , this very like , um, they'll kind of , uh, do , uh, the like voice over or like , um, uh , mouth along to it, or like mime with it or make it very, I don't know, like deep, especially I've seen twin size mattress. Um, we're gonna talk about lone star. I've seen lone star and it it's sad.
It's not sad, but seeing, seeing kids still , um, find weight in this stuff, seeing like a 16 year old , uh, kind of sing along to like , um, when they prayed to God, you would change.
It's like, fuck, like kids are still going through it. You just wait, you just wait. You 16 year olds . You weren't , you were like in competitive speech and like forensics where people crazy about car radio by 21 pilots. [inaudible] it's like the people, our age that were crazy about car radio. Well , I'm not sure how I'm trying to phrase the tech talk generation, twin size mattresses, their car radio, the little tick talk I've used or seen my girlfriend use .
I've seen a lot, a lot dispute, which is also who like , yeah. It's like, when did the teams get tasted? That's one . They got sad. I was incredible . I was still sad in high school when I was incredibly lame. What's fun to think about like growing up. I was really into nineties music when I was like a kid. Yeah . So it's like, that's like them being into like music as teens are to music.
I wonder if like my , uh, like my older cousins who might've had an emo phase saw me listening to like a fever. You can't sweat out and been like, what? Like kids still like this. We have a , we have a couple points to hit . Yeah. That's a good soon. I'm going to get this first.
This is for the snakes and the people they played for the friends on the sleepless list or the lording signs. I've completely ignored their standup amount to take reasons to take more, no big surprise . You turned out this way. When they close their eyes and prayed , you would tie your hair. Stop by my house. The night he was skiing with tears in my eyes, I begged you to stay. I said, Hey, man, I love you. But
Ah , Ooh . It hurts. I mean, there's, there's really something to be said for the way that like the three of us sitting at this table here , that, and we go, Oh, Ooh, ouchy . You know, I mean , uh, like Anke just , and, and sadness and like familial hardship. Um, it sucks , but it's a good way though. It makes you feel good. Right? You just feel good about listening to it. Stall Jack .
Well , maybe like more cathartic, like Arctic is a really good word and it sucks that these are our universal experiences, but like, damn, at least at least we got some good rifts out of it. We had a second little bit from here. Um, that'll go ahead and play.
[inaudible]
Wow. Rock and roll. Oh, it's so good. I didn't roll this what they said at the beginning. And they delivered, it's such a good lyric. I don't know if you guys feel it, but like she hopes I'm cursed forever to sleep on a twin sized mattress. Never graduating. Like that's like a metaphor for like, I'm going to live in some dude's basement or attic. Yeah . And my nightmares we'll have nightmares every night.
It's really, it's really delicious to put a lyric about someone like cursing you as , as part of like, I don't know, bad blood that you still have with this person. And it's probably a little bit of fear on his end, right? Because he's like, well, I sleep on a twin sized mattress every night for the rest of my life. Like this person hopes this for me. Like, is that going to be the case? Do you guys have time for another fun fact? Oh , I wish I could find it. I wonder if I can find it.
The demo for this song is 13 minutes long. Oh God. Too long. Uh, and I was listening to the commentary on Spotify and I didn't quite understand what he was trying to say. So the guy who mixes their tunes was like living in a cabin. Okay . Or like producer tunes. And so they had to like give him cassette tapes. Cause he was in a cabin. [inaudible] no internet 2013, I guess. I don't know. Uh, the dark ages.
So like after like six months of him being in the Academy came back with like a four minute version of it and wow. Before we move on to Santa Monica, I have to be
¶ Track 6: Santa Monica (We skip a few songs, sorry!)
hi folks. I just Pete and we are back. We were talking about Santa Monica. Yeah. So the next thing on our hit list is song Santa Monica, the kill cinema. We're going to kill the song. I also want to point out this is the song that influenced her drink para that's a very good time to talk about beer. Uh , Santa Monica , uh , is the, I don't know , six or seven songs , the zone number six, sound number six.
And I don't, I think we were trying to figure out a drink pairing because we like to pair drinks on album rubbery . It's best enjoyed with , uh, and uh, we'd like to have it , um, the drinks associate either with the album or with the artists. Like we don't want it to just be like , uh, tell him the Hawk has the energy of a light beer. We're like no, a to kata . And here's why, I mean, they just mentioned drinking to cottage and we figured that was enough of a, and we couldn't find a lone star .
No, we couldn't find the ones . We could also only find one 24 ounce Takata . Yeah . So unfortunately we're drinking a 16 ounce TACAN so we're just drinking like Takata pints, but the intention was there were drinking enough to God , to use , to make up for the 24 ounce clause . Yeah. We'll have at least 24 ounces of Takata and us by the end of this episode. I mean , I really don't have much more to say about the song other than it was the reason I wanted to pick Takata is a drink pairing.
Well, we do have a couple of , uh, timestamps to listen to you the first being , uh, the influence for our drink pairing. Um, so I'm going to get that set up. So , uh , this is sort of a soundbite where , um, we were inspired
[inaudible]
But we had eight more ounces. Ah , well grab another tiny one. Oh wait, those are 12. Yeah , fuck. Our math doesn't work out half half of that one plus half of this one, a third of that one plus. Okay. For those of us playing along at home, Logan is pointing between the regular size 12 ounce cans and the tight 16 ounce scams . That one and the two brain cells in his noggin are just absolutely slamming together to 12 ounces. Yeah, yeah. That is a 24 ounce. We've done it. We've done it.
This is the second little bit that we had.
[inaudible]
Well, here's how I know that I'm drunk. Um, I forgot that the first time I listened to the song, which was today, I teared up at that line. Yeah . It's such like a unique type of love song. He say it like, that's really powerful to say to somebody, right? Like, yeah. Especially, well, I don't know how personally I want to get, I have daddy issues and my dad was not strong enough for my mom. So to hear that is really like, Oh fuck.
Like that's, that's kind of fucking love, you know, to , to recognize yeah .
The trauma or the family dynamic or whatever of someone that you love and say like, I don't want to repeat it.
That history I thought was really poignant. You experience whatever you experience in your lifetime with your family or with your other relationships in your life. And , and you hope that the,
The bad things don't repeat themselves, especially in , um, I dunno when you start , uh, dating someone or whatever, like that's your relationship, that's your thing to build from the ground up. So you hope that you're able to build it free of ,
Um , that bad kind of energy, those bad habits that were present in your family dynamic prior. Anyway , um , that's just, that's sort of my little bit that I wanted to talk about with that song. And I totally blanked. I totally forgot that it held that kind of weight for me, but it does. And , uh, am I gonna listen to this when I'm drunk and alone and feel like crying, maybe
¶ Track 7: The Feud
the next song on our list to talk about is song number seven on the album, the feud, mostly because , uh, there's a goofy little thing that you two noticed with the progression of this song.
There's , there's a , uh , cut in the guitar track and the feud like around the one 55 Mark. And I don't know why, but it was one of the , the things that stuck in my brain. I was like, I like noticing the little production errors because it feels very human.
Like you think about albums as these like perfectly crafted, like, Oh, we spent years in the studio and , and we came out with this incredible piece of art and then there's like one little cut in the middle and you're like, Oh my God, that's in there. People made this
Well, I'll try it. Let me get it set up real quick. I think it's so humanizing. I mean, the guy was producing and Cabot , I think maybe, maybe his scissors just weren't sharp enough. So listen really closely. I'm going to play the song by and uh, it's like a little a scavenger hunt. See if you can notice the guitar hiccup
[inaudible]
[inaudible]
though , right ? One more time. Cause I, I think it's really ,
[inaudible]
Just that tiny little jump it's like, it's like a shiver. It's like, Ooh , what's the rest of that buildup is like goosebump inducing. Oh, totally, totally. Um, there's a part a little bit later. That'll go ahead and play.
[inaudible]
The hand claps. Get a little back into the , the head of the tune, how crazy that they have that tiny little weird edit and then it's this whole cool thing. I don't think we would have a sound bite , but then that song ends and like, like the drums, just follow the time and everyone like just plays fucking whatever. And it's just let's show like a , like a cool way to show like, like the songs about like, well, I guess I'll go in the band. Just like, fuck it. Yeah .
Oh my God. Yeah. That's a really good point to bring up is the whole song is like , um, you want this guy over me? Cool. And it's, it's sounds angry and it's like, I'm hurt. And this blows and then, and then it switches this kind of light, like folksy , uh, kind of uptempo thing. It's a bummer man with like little hand claps.
¶ Track 10: Lone Star
So going from one beer song to the next, we have lone star, Zac originally you were kind of making a push to have lone star be the beverage for the evening. Yeah. But we didn't try very hard. No, we didn't. I thought we could do both in case we wanted to, like, it is a lot of work, only drinking to cocktail for like an hour. I'm having a real easy time. That's the work we're willing to put in art. Yeah . But a lone star, but it is the only skippable track IMO in my opinion.
And I'm like, eh , that's just one of the ones you want to talk about specifically. Yeah. Well, I want to talk about it cause I wanted some hot. Yeah, I disagree. And I'm going to bring it back to tick tock. Alright . Because lone star is one of the other songs that I've seen a lot of tech talks about and it's a song that has a lot of really interesting like theory behind it. So , um, I'm going to play just sort of the beginning part of this. Um, you know, he's going to talk , uh ,
Paying a lot of money and his pregnant girlfriend. I'm just going to play it and pause it and talk about it a little bit.
[inaudible]
430 . So
No, no.
Well, a lot of people listen to the song and it's like, yada, yada, yada, you know ? Right. But there's this whole sort of speculation, which I'll , I'll bum you out in a little bit, but there's a speculation that it's
[inaudible]
Logan just sent a text message. Um , there's a speculation stopped. That was my mouth. Oh my God. I miss my mouth , uh ,
Speculation that the song is the sort of autobiographical , um, recounting of taking your girlfriend to have an abortion. And like the $437 is supposed to be the cost of that abortion, you know? And he says like, we're race, all responsibility, go back to the way things were. And this is where the tip has come in. That's how you , yeah. Right. I mean maybe, but this is another song that I see a lot of like kiddos, lip sinking too .
And this is kind of how I learned , uh, how people are interpreting this song is you watch these kids , um , like mouth, the words to this,
She looked me dead in the eyes and says, Hey, Brian , and you still believe in the Lord. [inaudible]
Hang on. Tech-Talk is , uh, the notion of like a PO V a point of view. And so someone will use this audio and say like POV we're in a Nazi camp. That's getting broken into and your girlfriend looks at you and says this. And then you go to the comments of this tech talk and it's like, Hey, you know, this song is actually about abortion. Right.
And that's my experience with the song and , uh, Tippett TD bank .
This , I was doing some internet research because I had heard this before, before I , um, placed any personal weight on it. And it turns out that , uh, the guy who wrote it, I'm forgetting his name. Brian , Brian, Brian, Brian wrote it. And he allegedly did not have any experiences like this. He just wanted to quote, write a story. So it's, it's not actually a thing that happened. Um, I was going to bring it up later, I think for everything I own. Uh , but in the commentary talks, he's like, Oh,
This is like, from an experience my friend had , or like a couple different songs, like imagine like there's one song, I think about a breakup, like imagine like , like, Hey, you know, that breakup you had, I wrote a song about it. Yeah .
Millions of copies. Yeah. That seems to be kind of the vibe of this album is like, we didn't really have these experiences, but we wanted to write songs about them and they're still so real. He's a great song , right ? Yeah . I mean, like he gives up that emotion, right. To you , I think in the commentary track for skeleton, they're like, yeah. I mean, this song is about smoking weed, but we don't smoke weed. So we just like wanted to write songs about our friend's experiences.
And it was like, all right , but also like, what are you not telling us? You fell asleep on the front seat. You got too stoned . No, you didn't Brian . It's crazy. I mean , cause like synchronize , sip , you can't see what I'm seeing here in the studio, but uh, Logan and Zac just absolutely threw their Takotna is back to finish them down . What is Sarah gonna say? Um, it is crazy though.
Some of these are entirely like fictitious or you know, someone else's story, but they feel so authentic. They feel like really well written. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of , uh, a lot of like, and I think it goes back to like, just like the lyricism is like very like, this is happening right now to me. Uh, and the metaphors are there . Definitely. But it's like, it's like a country song almost, but about being said. Yeah , I, yeah.
I mean, I think that kind of like gets to the point of like people calling this like folk punk is like, folk is like the word you use when you want to say country, but it's not like country bad . [inaudible] a little bit to , uh, millennials for country. A little bit to a what's the word I'm thinking of
Socialist .
What's the word for like , uh , like a man who has a beard, but it's very well groomed. It's very lumberjack,
A metro-sexual intersection metro-sexual for country. So it's folk interesting point. That's funny.
¶ Track 11: Backflip
I'm going to crack another beer. Go for it. Whoa. Nice. This is what this podcast is about . Alright , so we've covered most of this album. The last song that , uh , fucking, no one wants to talk about except
Me , but we're going to talk about it is , uh, the second to last song on the album. Big flip, back flip. I only want to talk about this because cause they give the bass player at intro lick .
That's the only reason I want to talk about Zac wants to talk about it. I I'm , I'm
Not a musician. I'm not a , I don't really work
In music beyond like visual arts within the music space. I'm fucking, I'm like a photographer, you know, but I definitely think there's so much weight to the way a song makes you feel. And being someone who like moved from their home town to Chicago and went to like cool, like crusty fucking alternative parties and like smoked weed in someone's fucking basement. Like there's a really specific energy to the song that I really love and we'll also play it so Zac can hear the bass
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They just gave it to him like that. Then they were like, you can go boom, a mama , put half a scale. Why not? You get four notes, man. That's all you play scale. But um , I want to listen to the first first, because again, it was my
First time listening to the song and it made me feel so good. And so nostalgic, especially being in quarantine, like for going to this like weird random party with a bunch of like friends of friends and you're like drinking PBR in someone's kitchen,
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You're getting a stick and poke tattoo and smoking weed in someone's kitchen. This album was well. Okay. I think part of the reason that I didn't care for this album very much was when I was true when I'm sorry. Part of the reason I care for the front bottom is very much when I was younger. We're talking like what in high school? Like yeah. All of the kids that listened to this album are way cooler than I was giving each other stick and pokes. And I think I was just jealous.
I was like, man, I , I didn't have a lot of these experiences. I didn't like get sticking folks . I didn't like fall asleep in vans, smoking weed. They apparently I think , um, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think , uh, the three of us at this table kind of grew into cool with moving. Is that true? Do you know uncool, Missouri is fucking Wisconsin. I really think, and I think that's my music, music.
Like this makes me feel some kind of fucking way is it makes me feel like I am 17 and I know that I'm leaving my hometown and I know that we all live in Chicago. I know that I'm moving to Chicago and I know that it's cooler. And I think about my younger self and I think about the experiences that I've had as a relatively
Alternative person living in Chicago and like my younger self would have thought that I was so fucking cool. And that's why the song makes me feel really good. Would you agree that this music helps you like live out a cool fantasy where you like are putting yourself in the position of the , the singer and the lyrics? Like saying all of the sudden you're like, wow man. Yeah. Like I think it affirms it.
I mean, like I don't have any stick and pokes, but it put the line about like , uh , a tattoo that I've , I'll probably regret one day. Like I'm , I'm a , I'm a tattooed person and my parents , uh, they're fine about it. But for the most part, they're like, what about your wedding? Um, and they think that I'm going to regret every tattoo I've ever gotten. And right now I don't.
And maybe I will, but, but thinking about , um, like bonding in a kitchen with my friends, like it's a, it's a really good energy of really good energy that I'm thankful to have experienced as a young adult. I , I just now like conceptualize that thought every party you're at, you end up in the kitchen. I don't know what it is about me . I've already hang out .
But yeah, I mean, you ended up in the kitchen cause I maybe that like , that's where the fridges and that's where the drinks are and you're going to get stuck in a conversation. And then you just back and forth to the fridges in your conversation or whatever, no realer line than like talking to your friends in the kitchen at a party bonding with them it's Oh , it makes me feel really, really good. And maybe I'm just metallic .
Cause I can't, you know, go to a party with the friends that I'm not quarantining with or the really small circle of people that I've been able to see in person during quarantine. But like thinking about that, thinking about the really specific energy of like loud music is playing in another room and you're grabbing a PBR from the fridge and for whatever reason, you're deciding to talk to your friend about like their final project for their photography major.
And it's , it makes me feel really good. Yeah . I love the song for the same reason, but a different lyric and it's a breathe in Holden . Now let it out. This is the other really important part about this song is smoking big weed baby. But yeah, there's a lot of , uh, lines on the song about like maybe outgrowing kind of the notion of like being a stoner. But until then, I'm just going to try and relish in it. And I think the line is like, feel all the effects and it's , it's sick.
I mean, I always say it's more of like a, like I'm going to commit to the status quo even if it's not exactly how I like personally feel because , uh, I don't have lines pulled . It
Pulled up here. You can kill it . Go looking, go back to your mic. No , that's okay . I'm looking at the lines. The lines are important. I wait , let me try to find out control F Oh yeah. Well, I mean, okay , so he's like , uh, he's going to realize he doesn't need it cause it's not actually who he is. And it's like, yeah.
I mean, all of your cool friends are in the kitchen smoking weed and whether or not that's like who you are as a person and whether or not who that's, who you're going to be in 10 years. Yeah, exactly. You're like this song is just all over the place. Cause the end line is like talking about being in a pickup truck. So your boyfriend can't see me. I don't understand this one. This is the second list of possibly skippable . Really, really like this side . I agree .
I feel like this is the song that like makes me think about high school and be like, there were a lot of things I did to like hang out with my friends because my friends were cooler than I was.
Yeah. I'm going to do a little bit of a sidebar, but there's um, there's an Intuit over it . EAP that I really, really loved. It was a split that they did with the band Koji. Um, and on the album, it's five tracks and each track is a neighborhood of Chicago. Like that's what the titles are. And the first time I listened to it was my first summer ever living here. I had moved to Logan square and there's a song on the album called Logan square.
And I thought there was something so fucking cool about having specifically like my experience reflected in a song and having my neighborhood and having something that I was a part of be reflected in a song. Cause when you're, when you're in high school in Southeastern Wisconsin and you work at party city and you do competitive dance, like no one writes songs about that. And I think there was a part of me that really yearned to have that sort of a poetic , uh , alternative experience.
It was really cool to see. And uh , this makes me feel the way that I felt when I first listened to that.
I think that's kind of one of the overriding themes of this album is nostalgia and putting yourself in a place that you were five or 10 years ago and being like, remember how things were, whether they were good or bad, because I think a lot of nostalgia people tend to be like, these are the good thoughts that I had the Rose colored, but a lot of it is just the really shitty stuff that you had to go through to get to where you are currently.
Yeah. And I think plenty of our like early childhood or like high school memories, like this just kind of suck. Yeah . This album is like, remember all of the awful, awful things. All of that. Yeah. I agree with that completely, but I think it also highlights some of the really good parts. Yeah,
Totally. It, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't Rose color, the nostalgia a hundred percent. Totally. That is a really cool point in their thought.
But , and I think another thing, and this is kind of my final point, I think regarding this song particularly, and the installer that I feel with this song is , um, the memories that I have about, you know, smoking weed and bonding in a kitchen might be with people that I've outgrown or people that I , uh, might not smoke weed in a kitchen with anymore, you know, but to know that those experiences are kind of under your belt to know that that that's the way that your life was and the way that
you did life with people is really , uh, something that I remember fondly even if, even if , uh, you know, the people that I did that with, I might not remember fondly anymore. I still reflect on those experiences and think that , uh, those experiences were very formative and cool.
¶ Track 12: Everything I Own
Cool. Uh, do you guys have any wrappy uppy thoughts? We're just going to skip this last song cause it's bad. Yeah. Sorry . No , the , uh , in the commentary he's like, yeah, we wanted to pick a really strong opening or a really strong ending for the album. And I had like a knee jerk reaction or like bad picked a better one. It's fine. Uh, so the one part that the one line that I liked from everything I own is who's gonna push my wheelchair when I'm sick.
I thought that that was something really like poignant. And again, like I'm just an emotional kind of person, but like a kind of wonder the whole, song's kind of about , um , wondering whether or not you should end a relationship that may or may not be the best for either of you. But that line is like, if I give this up, am I completely on my own? I thought that that was something worth noting. I, yeah.
I mean, I think there are several points in this album that are like this relationship's not really working. Is it better to like continue it or call it quits or yeah. Some of the main points of this album are relationship based and some of them are nostalgia based. Yeah. Um , and that's, that's all I got. That's all I got. But
¶ The ReBrewski for Talon Of The Hawk
we also wanted to re reward this album with an album, rubber brew award or a brewski Rooskie ski , if you will, this is kind of going to feel like a , like a yearbook superlative. Um, so the one we're giving talent of the Hawk by the front bottoms is most likely to smoke weed in a car award. If anyone from the band would like to come and claim the word , uh, we'll print it out , uh, from a Microsoft word document. Just the word it's just like an open can of Ducati [inaudible] .
Um, thank you so much for listening. Uh, if you have a suggestion for an album that re should re brew, let us know and maybe we'll do it otherwise. We'll see you next time.