Fame. He'd liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty, kinky sex games. Is the guy put the cock in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Ben's are here with famous a bitch. This is your free show. Today's May tenth. I'm recording this at night eight twenty four pm. You'll get this, I assume someday Saturday. I just decided to hop on here because a couple of things occurred and I got into melancholy mood. And whenever I get that way, I love
to talk. And I figured, why not, you know, let me give I'm gonna give a show. Well, I feel that I have something to give. Normally Fridays is a little bit of a break for me. But you know, I got my free shows during the week, I mean Patreon during the week and my free shows, which I promise you guys. And the politics, of course comes every weekend. Sometimes it comes Monday because to me, to me, I always say Sunday ends the week. I
always think Monday begins the week. I don't trust calendars, and it's just Sunday's the end of the week, you know what I mean. It's just not the beginning. I don't know who's one of that, but it's wrong. So today we have to move hotels. It happens at the one hotel I stay at. If you stay more than twenty one days, you got to leave for a day, then you can come back for twenty one more days. So it just happened to be this morning that I had to leave,
and Rocco's at school. He's got a lot of stuff, you know, the guy, his computer screen, bunch of clothes, a suitcase. I got my suitcases, begs, you know, food that I keep in the fridge. That's parish. I got a lug with me, yogat cereal, all that kind of stuff, my backpack, my stuff for the podcast. And it's only like a mile two miles away. But of course I get here and I'm complaining because there's no cart outside to take all this junk
up to the third floor. Not only that, the elevator doesn't work at this quality in so I had to make four trips up, up and down the steps. Not good. Probably the most cardio I've had all week, but not the best thing. I'm pissing and moaning about it, but I get hit with news that the great Sam Rubin died entertainment journalists who I knew pretty well. And I'll get to him in a second because we were tied together for a bit there and we're gonna do something with a TV show that
didn't pan out, but got to dome. Great guy, great guy, just the kind of guy you just can't say anything bad about. Sixty four years old. I guess the heart attack knocks him out and never thought or never, I mean, this is a guy that lived a clean life. You know, life, kids, great job, red carpets all the time, interviewing movie stars and TV stars. I'll get to him in a bit, but first I wanted to say some of the most fun I have is when I drive my son to a friend's house. It makes you feel young
because they're doing young things. Where are you going? Can you take me the cell and So's house? What are you gonna do? A got a big basketball court and he's got a hot tub in the backyard, and you know some girls are gonna come by. And I said, don't be an asshole. No, no, no, no, his parents are home. No, I wouldn't do that. That. Okay, he's a good boy, but it's a lot. Like my father and I. We got close during car rides. I knew my father loved me to death, but car
rides were something that I cherished because isn't it stupid? We did not have to look each other in the eye. I don't know why that was a thing when I was a kid, but it was easier to talk to him next to him. Not looking at him makes no sense. He wasn't mean. He was always funny. I mean he got angry at times, but never never scary. He never hit me, never let a hand on me. But so car rides became a thing I look forward to. And when't
you know it, that's the way. It is a rockall and I so, uh, We're taking the Lincoln down into Vannys, but a really nice section of Van Nis, believe it or not, those of you know California. You can make a right or left and suddenly be on a beautiful street with beautiful homes and you just wouldn't know from you know, two hundred yards away, but there it is. Then he has friends to live up on Mohand Drive, and that's when you go, oh my god, what does
that guy's father do? You know? And he casually tells me, oh, that's Jamie Fox is her uncle, or just he comes out. He doesn't care. He knows these famous people. Yeah, Jamie was at the park birthday party. I'm like, how could you not tell me that? I don't know? He doesn't care what I do. Most kids don't care what that dad does. So we're driving the car and I'm I Usually we
sync up with the bluetooth, his phone, his rap songs. You know, all the hip guys that are out now, the guys that I like some, you know, the Drakes and Lil so and so and Shorty so and so, and you know Kanye who I like a lot. But I said, I'm gonna play by music tonight, and my father would say the same thing. And I put on ninety seven point four The Wave That's out
of here with California. It's a great station on Friday nights especially. They hit you with songs upside your head that you just you didn't forget about them. But the second you hear the first note, it jolts you back into where you were, who you were with. What else does that but music? Nothing? So right away, boy, George's on do you really want to hurt me, and I'm trying to playing to him. Who boy George was He's still around, But I said, you have no idea. We
didn't know what this guy was. We didn't even know if he was a guy. He came out with this different colored hair, and he wore like look like big pajamas. It was a very strange thing. His nails were painted. He didn't come out and say he was gay. But then again, I come from the generation where we didn't even Knowlton John was gay. So what did we know? We just loved his music? So do you
really want to hurt me? As a I love that song. It's such a it just pulls the heart out of you, asking somebody, do you really want to hurt me? Kills me? So we go from that song and oh, by the way, I forgot I when I made the movie PS Your Cat Is Dead with Steve Gutenberg. I love the movie. It's a small independent film. I did a good job in it. I played a crazy gay guy who wanted to fight and fuck. Excuse my language. That's the way I told Steve. I see him a guy that wants to
fight as much as fucking. He loved it because he asked me, how do you see this crazy Carmine character? And I I pierced my eyebrow, I pierced my nipples. I got a wig, and I cut my hair really short to have the girl style this wig into this crazy style. I worked out twice a day. I got big, I got beefy. Somewhere
there's a picture. Maybe I'll post it on the podcast obsess page. I wanted to look rough and tough, and I got a lot of definition, and I wore a mesh shirt and I went to the movie premiere, and you know, it's when you see a movie, you know what's gonna be a big movie, like a Rocky bell Bow. Oh you know, Okay, this is a little Nietzche movie, an independent film, small budget. People will find it. I was glad to share the scream with Gutenberg,
who's one of the nicest guys in the world. The credits roll and it's it's boy George singing Crystal Blue Persuasion. I've always loved that song. It just does something to me. That's a beautiful, pretty lyric, beautiful music behind it. And I remember I felt like I was in a real movie because as the credits rolled, I heard boy George singing, and I thought, Wow, this is fucking cool. I can walk out of this premiere. It just felt different than some other things I've done in showbiz. And
then I got rocked right back into Hollywood because the girl I took. Some girl I think I went out would have liked three nights and I just said, you want to go to this movie thing? It's yeah, I'll go. And like two nights before that, she came over my my house and we had some fun and I wasn't doing any drugs at this point. I mean I was doing a pain pill now and then for my back, but
there was no cocaine in my life. Nothing. And she goes to me after the movie's over, she goes, you know what I forgot your house? I said what I'd never even heard. I couldn't believe it I was hearing. She goes, I left some crystal meth there and I didn't even know. I go, you left what crystal? Myth? Well, what does it even look like? It was wrapped in a little piece of paper. It's behind the lamp on your night table, and you could just throw
it out. It's so little that was like hardly anything left. I said, do you you take to use that? Oh once in a while, just you know, once in a while. I couldn't. I'm like, yeah, you're in Hollywood. And then I realized, well, I didn't have to realize this, but there was so many girls in LA, not in New York. So many girls in LA. Because the restaurants close and
the nightclubs closed at two, people still want to go. They want still want to party, and you end up going to people's homes and people have drugs at their houses. And I began to think, all right, well, it's like keeping liquor at your house. You gotta have a little cocaine at your house. You gotta have some weed at your house. I couldn't believe I was doing it, but I did it. It's stupid, but it's it's stupid, stupid, stupid. But I'm not blaming the girls because
they didn't make me do it. But that was like the agenda. Anyhow, we got through that rough patch. But the next song comes on, never Gonna Get It by En Vogue, Never Gonna Get It, never Gonna get It, never gonna get it, never gonna get It. Don't overlook that song. Don't overlook that song. That song is a killer if you've ever had a girlfriend and you've done her wrong. And the way that song begins when she says, I remember how it used to be. You never
were this nice. You can't fool me. Now you're talking like you made a big change. The more you talk, the more you said, the more things sound the same. And then she has like the girls next door who are like her girlfriend's giving you shit too. And at the end or towards the end of the song, the lyric is like, it doesn't matter what you do or what you say. This is her friend saying this. She doesn't love you no way. Maybe next time you'll give you a woman
a little respect so you won't be hearing her say no way. Oh my god, that song is so painful. Now I'm not going through a breakup. That's not why I'm bringing it up. But look, there are some truckers driving through the middle of California tonight, bringing produce and what have you to different stores and through in the middle of nowhere. I know they hear that song and they're shedding a tear. I don't care how big and how bad they are. That's a killer song. With a girl and her girlfriend's
telling you how you fucked up and you're never gonna get it anymore. It's a killer. And I was explaining to Rocco how it was at nightclubs, you know, because he's always with his phone. Every kid his age the phones in their hands constantly. And I said, you know, like it was different than you. You have to go approach a girl because what happened to the next song was Michael Jackson Got to Rock with You. And I'm like, oh my god, Rocco this album and I could still see Michael
Jackson while he still looked like Michael Jackson. I said, you have no idea that Michael Jackson you saw uh at the end of his life. This album, this song one of the go to rock with you. You think of the songs right now that these rappers think or or or even the female rappers think, or love songs or have any kind of element in them that makes a guy want to be with them. And then you hear Michael Jackson saying, girl, close your eyes, let that rhythm get into you.
Don't try to fight it. There ain't nothing that you can do. Relax your mind, lay back and groove with mind. You gotta feel that heat and we can ride the boogie and share that beat of love. It's I remember hearing this song. I told Rocko at a club called uh double Metro seven hundred because it was Metro seven hundred and a few nights a week, and it was double oh seven, two nights a week for punk rock and new wave. But I trow seven hundred was you know, good regular music
that you danced to, You actually danced to. You went on a dance floor and found a girl your thought was pretty, and you danced next to her until she saw you. And if she didn't give you that look, you moved on. And if she did give you the look, you'd start talking. Can I get you a drink? And he goes, he's laughing like it's so not like that now he goes. People just DM they just text. It's I know. I said, it's ruined you, guys. You lost. You have no idea what you lost. Case you never saw
it. To go to the bar to get the girl. What did she want? A mellow ball, Bay Breeze, a tequila Sunrise long all iced tea. Those were crazy bitches. Don't get with those. But uh and you got to get the number on the napkin. The napkin, and usually you didn't bring a pen with you. It was usually ribbon lipstick and you put it as safe spottle your body, but you're sweating, it's hot,
you're dancing. The last digit is smudged. You can't read it. You've spend that next day, Sunday morning, trying to figure out what was that last number, and you go through the whole rotary dial trying to find if that girl is home, and the girl was dancing. I'll never forget. I don't know how many years this ago. This is the eighties, Rose Gonzales. I saw this girl dancing. I couldn't take my eyes off her. And I'd never seen a girl dance to go to rock with you,
and she was dancing alone. And it's funny. I was listening to David Spade and Dana Calrvey today about best opening lines, and they would you know, they were making a joke about it. You know, there's plenty of funny opening lines that don't work, but they're just funny. Guys laugh, girls don't. But you know, this is my face. It's leaving in five minutes. If you want to get on it. It's like stupid shit like that. My name is David. I like me so far, stupid
shit. But I didn't know what to say to her, or she was alone. Nobody was approaching her, and I said to Chico, Chico hated these places because he didn't dance. I said, I can't leave it. I getting this girl's name and number. I can't, I can't. And I got next to her and I said, can I just watch you dance? I've never seen a girl dance like you. And she was so nice. Yeah, you can watch me dance. Oh god, thank you.
I don't care what you dance to. I just want to watch. I'm not being creepy, just I want My name is aj you know, my name's Rose, she said, Rose Gonzales. She ended up giving me her number. I got the digit right the next day, and I think we went on on two dates. Nothing ever materialized. She was really Latina. It was a different cultural thing. But you know, when you hear Michael Jackson's lyric al on the floor, there ain't nothing there but us. Girl,
when you dance, there's a magic that must be love. Just take it slow, because we got so far to go, I'm like, and you've got Cardi b singing about wet as pussy and all these Megan the Stallion and Nicki Minaj, who I like. I like Nicki and Megan. I even like Carti's music sometimes. But what the fuck has happened to music? And how a guy's supposed to approach a girl. Something's missing and that romance. I mean, Rocco could just shake his head and laugh. And that
was actually what we did. And that's how you found a girlfriend. You and out there and found a girl like a fucking caveman. No you didn't drag her back to your cave, but you went and founderr. You went up and down the clubs of Long Island or Manhattan to find a girl that you thought was very pretty, that maybe you could have a relationship with.
That's the way it worked. And then I finally pulled into the hotel and I got out of the car because George Michael was about to sing never Gonna Dance Again, And I can't take that song that you know, that song kills me. That's such a sad song. And when you think boy George and George Michael were both singing about guys, they worked with every day. It rips your heart out. They weren't singing about girls. They loved singing about guys in the band. Just that's a killer. That's a killer.
That was the way it was back there. That's when radio had great songs. On a Friday night, you almost hated to go out because it was so good Friday and Saturday nights. Man, everybody was listening to the same station. As you drove up a certain highway two thirty one Deer Paul Avenue, windows down, springtime, summertime, you hear the same song on every car, just like we used to hear Howard Stern bellowing from every window in
traffic on the way to the city. Speaking to Howard, I got, you know, just first of all, his interview with Joe Biden was so ridiculous and so stupid, So asked Kissy. Obviously, he was given a list of things he could ask him. He could not ask him about the border, he couldn't ask him about inflation, he couldn't ask him about Ukraine. And Howard, the biggest Jew on radio, super Jew, doesn't ask about Israel, and Hamas doesn't ask about all the anti anti Israeli people pro
Palestinians who are everywhere. I'm looking at TV right now. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Every college is being shut down. These kids are not graduating where. These are kids that didn't get to go to prom because of COVID, maybe lost a scholarship because of COVID. Now they can't have their graduation because of these assholes who don't know where the Gaza strip is on the map. You think they're not gonna come out fucked up in society down the road
if they're not already anyhow. Speaking to Howard Stern, Jerry Seinfeld was on Dana Carvey and David Spade show Superfly or Fly in the Wall, one of the two, and he said something really profound, but then he had to walk it back because that's the way we live now. You have to walk back everything you say. He apologized to Howard Stern because he said on the Spade and the Carvy show he didn't think he was funny. He said,
I really feel bad about what I said about my friend Howard Stern. In a conversation with David Spade and Dana Carvey, talking about the glut of comedy podcasts, I meant to say he must feel surrounded, but I said out flanked, which sounded terrible and insulting. And of course none of these little shows or any threat to his giant show anyway. It was bad, and I'm sorry, Howie, I still love you. Please forgive me no the
nother threat, because Howard Start makes his money. But let me tell you something, serious is an awful trouble people who have stock and serious radio. Is that even a thing. I'm not a market guy, but I'm sure it's a stock. They're not happy. There's no big numbers for Howard Stern anymore. And the way this whole thing began was they were talking on Seinfeld was talking the Spade and Carvey, and he said, the popularity of podcasts
now are very big. He said, Howard Starting basically invented the format. But then Jerry said, but we're better than him now. He said, how is interesting. Howard's a great interviewer, but comedy chops, I mean, can may speak candidly. And they said sure. He said, yeah, they're all great, let's face it, but he's been out flanked. I'm sorry, but Jerry said the first time was right. Howard has been
out flank. There are podcasts out there that are hysterical, namely Fly on the Wall, Superfly, SmartLess, Aim is a Bitch, that's your cup of tea. People aren't afraid to say, well, I'm in a different category. There's a few shows I mentioned that are kiss has shows. Smartness had to have the three presidents on which is the biggest the biggest blowjob of all time? And nobody asked an important question. It was a love fest, and Biden said the least. And he just scratched his nose the whole
fucking show. But he said to the guys, to Spade and Carvey, this is the best one on the air, you know, because you guys play nice together. It's smooth, you're not jumping on each other. And listen, I was there for Howard's during for years in that studio watching him work, sitting right next to him. Well, no, Benji was next to me, then Howard. But I've told you how this operated, how this worked in the past. Fred Norris and either Jackie Martley or me or
Artie Lang was in that middle seat. Then there was Benji, who's a brilliant comedy writer, and then Howard and Robin's in a whole other glassroom. There's a tray in the middle of this big table where all the desks converge, and Fred and Jackie or Benji, the three of them just write jokes, right questions. If he's on the phone somebody, they have a quick quip, a comeback. Ninety percent of the stuff that comes out of Howard's
mouth that makes people crack up and almost get it. The car accidents in the old days was from Fred Jackie, not Benji because he was new. But Benji's great when it came to me and Artie, he kept on microphones on which to me was an honor. I very rarely put a piece of paper in that trae because Fred and Benji was so fast. What was the use. And Howard had a camera that aimed down at the tray and the joke appeared on his computer screen. Not many people know that, and that's
why the show was so brilliant for years now. Of course, how It has a talent and still does have a talent to converse with people and speak with people in a way. He's great. He's great at getting people to admit to things they don't want to admit to. But no, no, he has been outflanked more. There are podcasts that are way more interesting and funny that are out there now than the Howard Stern Show. I love the Guy, but the he's been passed by. And lastly, Sam Rubin,
great guy entertainment reporter. We shared the same manager for a while, the Great Howard the petis who passed away. And there was a time where before TMZ hit, Howard had the idea of me and Sam doing a gossip show. Sam being the nice guy, the red carpet guy, and me being the guy that was out all night. You know, Sam's on the red carpet and celebrities walked toward him, Celebrities see me and walk away from me, that kind of thing. And it was tentatively called Sam and Bam.
I was Bam obviously, and we shot a sizzle reel. It was funny, We liked it. We tried to get it sold and it didn't work. But I always enjoyed Sam in the mornings when he had a movie review or an interview with a celebrity, always cheerful and happy. Sixty four heart attack boom. It just sucks that that, frankly, it sucks. Another good man is gone. That's all I can say to end this show. The older I get, the more people you just lose. And Sam was
a good guy, good guy, all right, no crying. That's it. That's it for your free show today. I'm out of talking. I'm too emotional. But out of all that came a wonderful woman with my son driving and telling him about what it was like in my day to find a pretty girl. God knows what he'll do. I hope it's not a dick pic. But if he takes after the old man in my work, I'm aj Benza. That was your free show you'll probably get at sometimes Saturday or
Sunday because I sprung this on Joey late. Here's the next pat shows to appear so late in the fact, he's probably well, he's working now for sure, and he won't go home through six am. So you'll get it this weekend, all right. In the meantime, hungry people you love, because it's over in a second. And that's if you're lucky. That's if
you're lucky, tucky soon, Thank you for listening. Fame as a Bitch is an aj Benza Workhouse Connect production featuring the Endless Wisdom insightful commentary and sometimes fucked up perspective of aj Benza executive producer Mike Agavino