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Shackin' Up

Jun 11, 202332 min
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Elliot Page says she was in love and had sex with co-star Olivia Thirby every day on the set of "Juno."...Jenna Jameson marries her lesbian lover Jessi Lawless...Chelsea Handler's threesome turned into her leaving her boyfriend...My time at E! under president Mindy Herman's watch.

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Hey, everybody, aj Benzi here with Famous a Bitch. This is your free show should land on June eleventh, twenty twenty three. I promise you guys the second free show before the weekends through and I'm delivering. I know I said I'm going with one free show for now on, but my name has been bandied about quite a bit and many many different newspapers and websites and podcasts, and I figured, you know what, let me strike while the iron is hot. Don't mind the voice. I'm developing some kind of chest

cold. I feel like I've been a human experiment, a human guinea pig. Yeah. I don't want to get in trouble here. I don't give a fuck. I've said it before. I don't trust what the government put on those shots, the vaccines and the boosters. I just don't. I had my own specific reason for getting the vaccine for myself. I tend to develop pneumonia. I don't even know why. I never smoked in my life, but had surgery on my left lung about six years ago. Maybe I

can't remember a year, but terrible had to take my lung out. A rib cage had deflated, pull it out, scrape all the gunk off it and then put it back in and inflated. But before that they tried to procedure went from my back. They couldn't get what they wanted in the lung and terms of a biopsy, so they tried that, they tried something else, they tried meds. Nothing was working. I'm suffering. I ended up spending thirty days in the hospital and then came the operation and it went well,

so I was released home. But in the first time I got COVID, it turned into COVID pneumonia. The first one was pretty rough. The COVID pneumonia was awful. Awful. I never knew how much pneumonia hurt. But you know, that's that's why I got the shot. Not to mention, I kept flying to Illinois to see my little nieces and seeing my sister and her husband there in their seventies. My nieces were both two and under at that point, and I just felt, you know what, you'd feel

awful if you took this dread illness back to Chicago. So anyway, that's my reason, but I don't trust it. I wish I didn't do it, because I do feel different ever since that stuff was put into my body. So I'm not going further with any of the boosters, that's for sure. And then yesterday I find out that the shot that I did get, the Johnson and Johnson, which was a one shot deal, has now been taken off the market. Wonderful one of them. If it was such a

great drug, why is it being taken off the market? What? What? What's that about. We're gonna be long gone, many of us before we find out just how much bullshit we were fed. I think the files on COVID A closed for the next seventy five years or some shit. So one of youngsters out there who aren't listening to this show, you're too young, you might find out, but most, if not all, of us who are listening right now will never know. But then again, we do

know. We feel it in our guts, all right, That's that. Anyhow, excuse my throat clearing here and there, because I am stuffed up in the chest and I just have to get through this with some over the counter junk. But looking through the papers the other day, I still say papers, you know what I mean? Looking through the Internet, and I swear to God, I've never saw a time when so many women want to make their private life public. It's crazy. Nobody can keep their mouth shut.

The other day, Elliott Page former formerly Ellen Page, admitting that she and her Juno co star Olivia Thurby had sex almost every day while they filmed the movie. That the movie Juno, lots of scissoring going on. Oh you know, look, maybe if she knew she wanted to be a man even back then, maybe she brought the strap out. I don't know, well, brought out the strap on? Could be. I don't want to picture it, but it certainly could be. I don't call Elliott and he

I never will. To me, Elliot Page is always Ellen, and he's a she. That's it. I'm never gonna go for that. I don't care what kind of excuse or reasoning or rationale anybody gives me. I don't know if you feel the same way, but I just don't like. I just find it very odd and not even compelling. I found it extremely odd that there are so many people attached to Hollywood that either want transgender surgery, are identifying as a different sex, are proud to be part of this movement.

I just find it too much to bear, and most of the stuff I read about celebrities. I just don't think this sort of thing is happening to many regular folks around the country. I don't think too many little boys and girls in Oklahoma or Nebraska, or Arkansas or West Virginia are going through this trans movement. I don't see a lot of black kids that are going through it. I haven't seen any Mexican jet go through it. Always seems to be white kids. And let's put it this way, white kids with

well off parents most of the time. Because I will always believe, especially with children being born now, that many parents are pushing this lifestyle or this this whole gender switch to be talked about to be popular. I don't know why you do that to your kid. Life is hard enough to go through it and change your sex. Thankfully, the younger generations seems to be okay with us. I know my kids are whereas I still see a change and a kid that used to coach six, seven, eight years ago and I

go, not go. Isn't that Claudio from the soccrate. Well he's Claudia now, Dad, he's claud Now he's Claudia. Yeah, you're okay with that? I don't care. Yeah, kids just don't get And maybe that's the best thing that the transgender group is going to get out of this, that the younger generation doesn't care, but the older generation is six of them targeting our children. I'm not going to get into the whole target and has a bush bullshit. We've done that forever. But I think businesses are starting

to finally realize we gotta slow this push down. I know they want to do it for social points. How much higher they can get out to social scale and being seen as woke a woke corporation. How they don't get it is just beyond me. Speaking of bullshitters. Jenna Jamison, former porn star Jenna Jamison, is now a married woman. She married her very heavily tattooed girl friend, Jesse Lawless, in a typical Las Vegas ceremony back at the

end of May. She told People magazine the details about it. She said, I found the person I truly should have always been with. Come on, I know poun stars are weird. I dated a couple in my past. They have a whole different view on sex, and you know, they're just They're just much more free and they don't keep too many things close. To the vest. Most women in porn, I would think are by.

I would say, I'm pretty right about that. So they don't see any big shock when they go from men to women, back to men back to what. They just kind of travel back and forth like a ping pong ping pung bull. I don't want to say it's a mental condition. I mean, I think people can legitimately be bisexual and like both sexes. I just I feel like, after a while, and you gotta pick one, You're gonna make a decision, you know, Like Andrew Dice Clay used to say,

what do you wake up in the morning and flip a coin? Heads? I got hair pie tails, balls across the nose. I think that's how the joke went. Dice was so way ahead of this stuff. My God, But would he'd be canceled on the second nowadays if he did one of those nursery rhymes Jesus Christ, little boy blue. He needed the money. Oh, I can't do that stuff anymore so. The Las Vegas Records of Clark County revealed that they got a marriage license the day before their ceremony.

Jamison came out as bi central what seventeen eighteen, nineteen years ago, and she said she was only romanced by men in the past because she wanted to have children. She told People Magazine, I try to go over in my mind why I ever dated a married men. And it's selfish and bad to say, but I think my driving force worked children. She's got three

kids, and she's now approaching fifty and now she with lawless. But she says she's finally found herself and she's finally accepting of everything that she feels inside and just don't shove everything down anymore, or doesn't shove everything down anymore. Now. Remember she's got fourteen year old twins with the name's a Journey and Jesse with the x mme a fighter Tito Ortiz. And she has a six year old daughter, Battel, with her ex Leo Baton Israeli dude. She

was also previously married to Brad Armstrong and Jay Guardina. Oh this chick. I mean back in the day when she was doing porn, I mean, there was nobody hotter than Jenna Jamison. She was a rock star, you know, she just she was killing it. And I forgot the other one's name that I love too. She's all tattled up now, she got sleeves on both I figured the name. She hasn't met an easy time of life

in the last ten years or so, but I can't remember. She was huge, but nobody was bigger than Jenna Jamison back then, no one was. And I've met her and I used to follow her on Twitter and Instagram over the years. I watched her life, you know, go on from one chapter to the next, and we would talk back and forth to each other. I used to actually stick up for her on Twitter because sometimes most of the time, whenever Jaman showed up on Twitter saying jama whenever Jenna kept

showing up on Twitter. I can't believe the way men or let's say, boys would treat her the ship. They would say to her, these are the same guys that a few years ago were masturbating to her videos, and now that they have a chance to talk to her and maybe say something nice, they have to put her down and call her a tramp and say, oh, sorts of horrible things. I remember when she was studying to switch over to the Jewish faith and people took her to town on that just every

day. I said, what are you doing online? Just go go, don't go on Twitter, it's it's it's a snake pit. She goes all, fuck, am I gonna take it? But I don't think she could because she developed a drug and alcohol problem. It's like pills and alcohol. God knows what else she was on, but the pills and alcohol were definitely bad for her, as they are for most people. So I saw this whole thing in her life actually happening in real time, and I watched this

lawless chick kind of. She had her own Instagram channel, still does a lot of followers, and she does crazy shit on her Instagram channel, Instagram reels, Instagram stories. A lot of it is her acting kind of masculine, decent body, but dresses like a man. She happens to be a I'm gonna let's just call it what it. She's a barber and a social influencer, and you see her surfing. She's got like a six pack abs, very masculine looking, but still looks like a man to an extent.

With the hair is short and the hats all over the neck and all over the body. I don't know what a woman can find sexy and that in another woman wearing that all that inc I could see if a guy had that if inc turns you on, but another chick looks like a guy, I don't know. If that's bisexuality, then why not just stay straight and fuck men? And I you know, but they had a short fling some time ago, because I think I even brought this up on a previous show last

year. I would follow both of them, and then they were sending each other public messages back and forth about how they how turned on. They would get from each other from each other's pictures, and I saw like comments like Lawless would pollose and Jenna would write back gorgeous hot, and Lawless would respond all yours. And I'm like, is this happening right in front of me?

Am I watching this happen? But like I said, what I don't get is the woman she's with now is a lesbian, of course, But with all her tattoos and her male like physique, her videos of shooting guns and doing a lot of manly stuff, is it woman that Jenna Jamison really wants because Lawless looks and acts like a man. But Jamieson has been through the mill. At the wedding, Lawless's father walked Jenna down the aisle.

Previously Jenna lost the ability to stand because of this mystery illness. Of course, these two are married by a Johnny Cash in person or not Elvis, but Johnny Cash, and it all began. It was some TikTok's Maybe TikTok is the place to go if you want to find that bisexual mate. Lawless said, the very second that I was in her presence something about this woman. There's no words to describe the energy that she has. But the very second that I was in her presence, I was like, oh fuck,

this woman was made for me. Everything about it felt like home. All Right, I'm guilty of saying the same shit happened to me with my girlfriend Andrea, So I'm not going to judge too much. Let me maybe we should wish these late in life lesbians luck. Fine with me, but I just can't help but think about Jenna Jamison leaving three kids behind, especially after she studied to become a jew for her last husband, Leor, and it all seemed to be great until one day she just left him and her son.

She did the same shit to Tito Ortez and they're twins, huge pillhead back then, and Tito never trusted her along with the kids. He actually eventually feared her. I mean, think about one of the great MMA fighters of all time being afraid of a five foot three x porn store that he actually had secret secretly had cameras installed throughout their home to see just how she was treating their kids. Or maybe she was sleeping through the day and not

taking care of them. Either way, he didn't what he saw and that was it. He went for full custody and got it. I mean, I remember the days where I was. I did an episode of the CBS show Numbers with Tito and we had a little talk about it because I knew him through my nephew Joey working with the UFC, and Tito was a big name back then. He knew who I was because I mentioned my nephew's name. My nephew was the right head man to Dana White for a few years,

so he felt okay talking to me. But they had Jenna and Tito engaged in some really nasty fighting when when things got a bit physical a time or two, and look, look, Lawless is no angel either. She's a barber, like I said, barber influencer. She's always on TikTok or Instagram addressing stories of a violent past. I think most recently, she was trying to end a relationship with some chicken. I wasn't going smoothly, so the girl apparently spit in her face, and with that Lawless picked her up

by the throat and body slammed her. Cops her called, and she was charged with domestic violence and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The delinquency of a minor charge is because her children were home during the event, but they weren't in the room, but they were still there. Meanwhile, this rare disease that Jenna has had for a long time, it's a rare autoimmune disorder and which a person's own immune system damages the nerves. It causes muscle

weakness and sometimes paralysis. It's a bitch of an autoimmune disease to get. But like I said, you know that makes her happy that I wish them luck, But I just don't see this working out. Jenna's not the kind of chip that sticks around a long time, and I think she's still soon tired of Lawless. I think she'll do all she can to ring out the publicity she can get from this event. She shall tire and they'll split. I'm gonna give it under two years. I'm gonna say nineteen months. Another

chick that just keeps spitting out her own personal information is Chelsea Handle. She's no stranger to being very honest about her life, her love life. You know, she doesn't care who hears it. She uh made it very plain on an episode on a Wednesday episode of series XM's Andy Radio and Everybody's gonna fucking show. I don't even know these people are. Everybody's got a show.

So she talked about she realized she had to break up with her ex boyfriend Ted Harbert, who was once the president of the E Network, after having a threesin with him and her female massus. Chelsea said she was very turned on by the masseus. Oh it's Andy Cohen's. I'm sorry, that's what Andy Radios and I didn't know that Andy Cohen is. And okay, that's that's a big show. Okay. She did say she slept with women but had never dated a woman, but she ended up hooking up with her

several times without the guy. You know, they left Ted out of it, and eventually the manage ATOI caused Chelsea to realize she was more into the unidentified Masseus than Ted Harbert, which ultimately led to demage of their relationship. Sometimes Chelsea likes to say, oh, Ted didn't like the fact that I didn't like the fact that Ted said I was missing I was mixing business with pleasure. Well, back then, Chelsea liked to drink vodka a lot.

I mean, she didn't even an entitle of her own memoirs. She talks about liqua one night stand, throwing up, you know, coming home after getting laid very much, Amory Amy Schumerlich, you know, always getting loaded, having some guy off sex him. They did end up not liking what happened in bed. They laid down and get sad about it, and oh, just a wreck, a wreck of a person. So once she liked being with the Masseus alone, she knew it was time to break up with

Ted Harbert. They did, or she dated him, and Ted Harbert was coming up the ranks. He made some big moves in his career. He was the former a former executive or the former chairman at NBC. He's now

married to a woman named Lisa Madrano. I think in twenty eleven they got hitched, and handler says she never told Ted that she was sleeping with the massus on the side, but she called there three some fun and said she would have one again because she says, you see, I don't want to get double teamed by a guy, but I would like another girl in this situation. You know, she can know all this stuff that I'm too fucking

lazy to do. Oh god, nothing worse than hearing a girl wanting sex and admitting she's a starfish, meaning she lays down in bed and does nothing. Not one man likes that sort of thing. She said, she doesn't love the idea of a man she's dating wanting to add another guy into the equation, no kidding. You know, doesn't want to mail partner and doesn't want to have penetration with another man. Okay, but she did say maybe oral is less questionable. I don't know. I've never been up against that

kind of conundrum. Oh God, is there nothing precious or sacred about intimacy anymore? I mean, does anybody keep their mouth shut even if your legs are wide open? Can you get your mouth shut? Because this one is desperate for any attention at all. When I look at her. She reminds me of the person and the woman who gets drunk during the day, you know, on rose or Chardonnay and ends up banging the poolboy or maybe even in the driver for Uber Eats. I could totally see Chelsea Handler being that

kind of woman. Listen that big mansion in bel Air, a mansion that when she was a kid would she would drive by with her family and say to her family, I'm gonna own that house one day, and god damn it, she ended up owning that house. I like stories like that. They really mean a lot to me. I love the fact that people are gonna have that kind of perseverance and then with a good timing and good luck, the house becomes availab you know, have millions and why not buy it.

You buy property in certain parts of California, it's only gonna go up and go up big and fast. Or in Dennis Miller Boy's house way up north in like Monticito area of California, and I don't know what he bought it for, but he ended up selling it for fifty million dollars. That's why he left the podcast world. And he's been traveling with his wife all over the world India. It'll like they just have gone everywhere. Haven't heard from Dennis or seeing any hide nor hair of him, or heard from him

or heard anybody else talk about him. And I don't know three years now, he just did not like the way the world was changing and the wokeness and all that shit. He felt like he was bound to get in trouble if he opened his mouth and said something about somebody at the wrong time. Whenever somebody's at a party and got his opinion wanted his opinion about something, Dennis would come up with an idea that he had to go to the bathroom right away and then leave the party. He just felt, you know what,

it's better than not give my opinion and get canceled. I'll just go home. Might not be bad advice, but I want to say, I remember when Ted Harbert first got to the E Channel, replacing the clueless lesbian leader Mindy Herman, the woman who canceled My talk show way back in two thousand and one. As much as a liar, Mindy Herman was, especially when she included herself and all the articles about me and the upcoming talk show AJ after Hour, she was always picture with me on a bunch of articles

that came out back then Variety, Hollywood Reporter. One picture in particular, I remember she was standing on the fire escape of the really cool studio space in Tribeca that we used for my show Downtown New York City. She's all smiles and always used to gush about me in those articles. Aj has what it takes to enter the late night space, late night talk show space.

He's funny, he's smart as a whip, and he has this ability to talk to people and get them to admit to things they otherwise never would. He's a real shomer. Yeah. Meanwhile, Mindy knew all the while she was gonna can my show took her four weeks to do it, and after working eighteen months on the show, it took her four weeks to do it. But before she did that, she slashed my show's budget in half, kept putting the show on at these ridiculous hours when nobody was gonna see it

one am, two am. It was never in the same time slot twice. I mean once no one knew where to find it or what it was on. Now, could I have been a better host? Of course, I was learning how to do it I had the dump shtion and I had the confidence I had to wearwithal that I was doing something that was different. So of course they would have gotten better all the time. You know, no one's qualified raine job. They get you grow with it, and eventually

you're good at it. So I never got that shot. That's a tough feeling. But later on I learned that Mindy Hermann was a part of the Magic Johnson talk show, which failed miserably, and she was part of another talk show, maybe The Chevy Chase, so maybe they also didn't fare very well. So she came to E knowing she was not a huge fan of that format. Meanwhile, the bosses before her had known me for like six years, and we're really really behind the show. We've been working on it,

like I said, for over a year. We filmed the pilot in New York City. We filmed the pilot in LA but I didn't know what she felt about talk show, so she canceled it without really giving it a chance. But like I said before, we shot the show in a place called Studio seven, which was on the boarder of Chinatown and Tribeca, which was downtown New York City. I even had an old Asian man who operated the elevated by hand like the old days, and the show was canceled in

mid June twenty two years ago. Next week, and his fate would have it, when the twin Towers were destroyed by the Saudi terrorist fucks. That whole neighborhood was shut down and nobody was allowed back for weeks. So who knows what would have happened to my show? And I think I've said this before, but sometime around two thousand and nine, I'm sitting in the computer

room at my house with Roxy on my knee. She's like five years old, and I'm showing her videos of great singers like Sinatra, Sammy Davis, the Beatles, Edith Poff, Charles asn of War, and suddenly I see that Minnie Hermann sends me an invite to follow her on Facebook. I couldn't believe it, and look, believe it or not, I was still sore and pissed off seven years later out of the cancelation, and I couldn't believe

what I was seeing. So I write back to her, I hope you're reaching out to me to apologize and admit your mistake of derailing my career, and she said, yes she was. She said she felt terrible her self because after much thought, she felt she didn't give the show enough of a shot. As you think four weeks isn't enough, they're gonna read on anything. Once again, she admitted she was wrong and very very sorry. So

I called off the dogs and I slipped into being decent towards her. And takes a big person to admit they were wrong, and I'm glad she possessed the balls to do that. And suddenly, in a matter of an hour, I felt so much of the bitterness inside my body just began to dissipate. I suddenly had a calm this about me, and once she said what she said, I was over it. I just should have not taken in so personally, because everybody in Hollywood has those horror stories that really hurt.

Shows that get canceled weight too early is a common theme. And what you gotta do is go about your business of getting the next job and the next job. And I was, perhaps foolishly believing that I had what it takes and the show was going to get me back to living in New York City and nothing was more important than that. Back then, and when I look back in the whole situation, now it turns out that Mindy Herman and given

me the hook was actually a blessing. As a lot of bad news is if the show kept going on, that means I stay in New York City and never moved La and never would have met my wife Lola, and I wouldn't have had Roxy and Rock with the loves of my life. And then if Lola and I hadn't fought like Captain Dogs so much, I wouldn't have met Andrea. So indeed, everything happens for a reason. And now I see that the cancelation was actually a blessing, and God putting Minnie Herman in

my life was actually a gift. So take it from me. And you know, don't overreact whenever the bad news hits. You just know that in every dark cloud there was always a silver lining. And there's the other proverb, when one door closes, an other one opens. Blah blah. It's true. That shit's all true. I've lived it. If I hadn't stupidly slipped into a drug and alcohol phase to suppress my anger and sorrow, my

career would and could have gone a very different way. Because you see, nothing good happens to you when you're sitting around and feeling sorry for yourself. I think most of you know that. But anyhow, Minny Herman ends up splitting the network right before I did, and she left with a twenty million dollar parachute for starting Ease I think the Style Channel. Meanwhile, she left with all that dull despite a scathing published report alleging numerous financial improprieties and bad

behavior on her part. Under her guidance. E had one short term hit in The Anna Nicole Smith Show, and that ran for two seasons under Mindy's watch, and a lot of people at e and in the business felt she was exploiting Anna Nicole Smith's drug and alcohol use. And I'm sure if you look back at those clips you'll see no studio head would have kept this going. Any network had would have seen how Anna needed obvious help and an intervention

or at least the rehabs was in order. But Mindy wanted ratings, and as Anna got sicker and sicker, the show's ratings dropped a lot, even though they had a strong debut. The show went right down like a rock and a river, and it would because of how she let anna be exploited that many A lists began to refuse interviews with the channel. That had never

happened before. When I moved to LA, the E Channel was a type of channel everyone in the industry would leave on all day in their house because we were typically very friendly towards celebrities, and that all changed with Mindy at the Wheel. We used to have a huge competition with VH one in Bravo, both of which moved into ease pop culture and celebrity space. But then it all went to shit, and ratings for the channel are flat by the

end of two thousand and three. Anyhow, long tangent. When Mindy left, Ted Harbert came aboard, I took one look at him and felt he was a creepy kind of guy. I just felt that way. At some point in Walks, Chelsea Handler, who was looking to get her career going after the hidden camera show she co coasted with the stand up comic Kiis Sultanovich, called girls behaving Badly. When that was canceled, Chelsea went to eat, and obviously Ted Harbert got a heart on a fur and took her right

in. She found she could openly flirt with her very married Ted Harbert, and she seized the opportunity and they carried on an affair while what do you know, Harbert gave her her own talk show, Chelsea Lately. That burned my ass for a bit too, But I haven't liked that show. I can't lie I liked Chelsea Lately. This is before Chelsea Handler. I had to make sure everyone knew her political viewpoints and just how left she was.

Back then at E, all she cared about was getting drunk and getting laid, and then she'd latch onto Ted Harbert before eventually becoming a public public couple from twenty eleven to I think twenty fifteen. So Handler brought up a marriage, screwed the president of E, got her own talk show. I mean, she definitely had a game plan that one. And you see, this is something only a woman can do. It's a lot easier than a male employee or a male host trying to carry on in a fair with a married

female executive, for sure. But you know what, I'm not, I'm not hating her for any of it. Who knows, if Minnie Herman weren't gay and happened to be cute, maybe I would have done the same thing to scare my own show. But like I said earlier, everything happened for a reason, and I'm now so glad it did. I'm a J. Benson. That was your free show for June eleventh, twenty three. There'll be another free show, I believe midweek. Make sure to catch it.

If not, go to patreon dot com slash fame as a bitch and drop a fiver in the slot and you get me for a whole month, twenty or more shows per month. You'll dig it, all right. That's you, guys. Have a good rest of the week and I'll talk to you in a few days. Take you

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