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AHLA's Speaking of Health Law

American Health Law Associationwww.americanhealthlaw.org

The American Health Law Association (AHLA) is the largest nonprofit, nonpartisan educational organization devoted to legal issues in the health care field. AHLA's Speaking of Health Law podcasts offer thoughtful analysis and insightful commentary on the legal and policy issues affecting the American health care system.

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Episodes

Succeed or Struggle: How Health Care Joint Ventures Can Either Flourish or Flatline

Jerry Chang, Managing Director, BRG, speaks with Brynne Goncher, Vice President/Deputy General Counsel, Piedmont Healthcare, and Tom Hark, Partner, King & Spalding LLP, about the factors that increase the likelihood of successful joint venture partnerships between health systems and other providers and the factors that increase the likelihood of struggling joint venture partnerships. They discuss some of the drivers and characteristics of the joint venture partnerships they are seeing; issue...

Aug 15, 202545 min

Cybersecurity in the Crosshairs: Legal and Financial Risk in FDA-Regulated Medical Devices

The FDA has begun urging manufacturers to treat cybersecurity risk management as a material business concern. Hal Porter, Director of Consulting Services, Clearwater, speaks with Allyson Maur, Associate, McGuireWoods, about the implications of the FDA’s growing focus on cybersecurity as a core component of medical device safety and financial risk and what that shift means for legal, compliance, and risk professionals. They discuss how manufacturers and providers should navigate these expectation...

Aug 12, 202538 min

Career Journeys in Health Care Law Firms

Alé Dalton, Partner, Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP, speaks with Tenia L. Clayton, Associate, Baker Donelson Bearman Caldwell & Berkowitz PC, and Caroline K. Abbott, Associate, Greenberg Traurig LLP, about life as a health law associate at a large firm. They discuss what drew them to health law and their particular firm, how to remain resilient in the face of unexpected challenges, what a typical day looks like, how they’ve gotten involved in AHLA, finding the right firm culture, and what ...

Aug 08, 202554 min

Health Care Corporate Governance: The Important Role of the Finance Committee

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine, Partner, McDermott Will & Emery, about the role of the Board, and the Finance Committee in particular, of monitoring the financial affairs of health care organizations, especially after the enactment of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA). They discuss the Finance Committee’s responsibilities, how the Finance Committee should exercise oversight in light of the OBBBA’s potential impact...

Aug 05, 202519 min

The Current Landscape of Vaccine Law and Regulation

Brian Dean Abramson, Adjunct Professor of Vaccine Law, Florida International University College of Law and University of Houston Law Center, speaks with Vanessa Burrows, Partner, Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, and Dr. René Najera, Director of Public Health, College of Physicians of Philadelphia, about the rapidly changing environment of vaccine law and regulation. They discuss current availability, recommendations, and funding of vaccines at the federal level; implications for companies inv...

Aug 01, 202541 min

Refining the Legal Framework of the False Claims Act

Adrienne Frazior, Shareholder, Polsinelli, and Jody Rudman, Office Managing Partner, Husch Blackwell, discuss recent legal developments related to the False Claims Act (FCA) and how the FCA is changing. They cover significant cases ( SuperValu , Loper Bright , Polansky , Zafirov ), circuit splits involving the FCA and the Anti-Kickback Statute, the overall health of the FCA, DOJ’s Civil Rights Fraud Initiative, the renewal of DOJ and HHS’ FCA Working Group, and future areas of increased enforcem...

Jul 29, 202543 min

Reproductive Health Law Updates: Planned Parenthood, Mifepristone, Shield Laws, EMTALA, and More

Sheela Ranganathan, Adjunct Professor, Georgetown University School of Health, speaks with Kim Mutcherson, Professor, Rutgers Law School, and Diana Kasdan, Legal and Policy Director, UCLA Law Center on Reproductive Health, Law, and Policy, about the current landscape of reproductive health law. They discuss the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Medina v. Planned Parenthood South Atlantic , the ongoing battles over mifepristone in the courts, the rapidly evolving patchwork of state-level shield ...

Jul 25, 202539 min

Lessons From Two Recent Fraud and Abuse Enforcement Actions Involving Routine Business Practices

While enforcement under the False Claims Act and Anti-Kickback Statute traditionally focused on billing practices, regulators now scrutinize routine business practices such as marketing, vendor relationships, and operational tasks—especially when tied to government benefits. Nicki Jacobsen, Director, Stout, and Astrid Monroig, Associate, Barnes & Thornburg, discuss two recent federal settlements involving speaker programs and the misuse of government postage discounts. They explore the key c...

Jul 22, 202532 min

Leveling the Playing Field: How Attorneys Can Empower Physicians in Employment Negotiations

Sarah Laws, CEO of Physician Prosperity, speaks with Dennis Hursh, a veteran physicians’ lawyer, and Jim Dahle, a practicing emergency physician, about how attorneys can help physicians navigate employment negotiations. They discuss potential misconceptions physicians may have about employment contracts, the connection between legal and financial literacy, potential risks during the negotiation process, how attorneys can better work with physician clients, how financial advisers and attorneys ca...

Jul 18, 202540 min

Health Care Organization Portfolio Review: Trends and Developments

Kris Blohm, Managing Director, Practice Co-Leader, Mergers & Acquisitions, Kaufman Hall, and Courtney Midanek, Managing Director, Practice Co-Leader, Mergers & Acquisitions, Kaufman Hall, discuss the rapid acceleration of major business unit or "operating portfolio" moves within health care organizations that are navigating the complexities of specialized areas such as home health, skilled nursing, DME, outreach labs, and behavioral health. They cover how legal, financial, and operationa...

Jul 15, 202519 min

Hurricane Helene: A Tale of Two Health Systems

Deanna Mool, Chief Legal Officer, UNC Health Appalachian, and Tom Shanahan, Chief Legal Officer, UNC Health, discuss the impact of Hurricane Helene on their respective health systems in 2024 and offer tips on how to respond to a natural disaster from a legal perspective. They recount their experiences on the ground during and after the storm, including maintaining proper communication, procuring and dispersing essential aid and supplies, providing community and staff support, coordinating grant ...

Jul 11, 202541 min

Health Care Corporate Governance: Issues Related to Abstention and Recusal

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine, Partner, McDermott Will & Emery, about the concepts of recusal and abstention, including what they mean, how they’re different, and when it is appropriate to use them. They discuss quorum issues related to recusal, whether abstention only applies to conflict of interest scenarios, best practices for effecting recusal and abstention, and the risks involved. Watch this episode: https://www...

Jul 08, 202521 min

Cosmetic Medicine: Legal and Compliance Issues

The U.S. cosmetics medical market is expected to grow from $22.64 billion in 2025 to $36.35 billion by 2034 according to a recent report by Custom Market Insights. Erin Smith Aebel, Trenam Law, and Chase Howard, Bochner PLLC, discuss the legal and compliance issues related to cosmetic medicine. They cover issues related to the corporate practice of medicine, telehealth, scope of practice, advertising and marketing, physician supervisors, and current trends. Watch this episode: https://www.youtub...

Jul 04, 202543 min

C-Suite Roundtable: Issues Related to Health Care Transformation

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Angela Brandt, Chief Administrative Officer, ProMedica Health System, and Daryl Tol, Transformation Leader, General Catalyst, about how health care organizations can navigate the continuing transformation of U.S. health care. They discuss some of the headwinds facing the health care industry and issues related to provider partnerships, artificial intelligence, payer mix, consolidation and integration, and the ...

Jul 01, 202541 min

Avoiding Common Pitfalls in Health Care Transactions

Jason Ruchaber, Founder and Managing Partner, RootPartners, and Daniel Mohan, Shareholder, Polsinelli, discuss how to avoid some of the common pitfalls they see in health care transactions and what can be done throughout the deal process to ensure a successful transaction. They cover the legal and transactional pitfalls that occur during the planning/pre-marketing phase, the marketing phase through Letter of Intent, and the formal diligence phase and closing. Sponsored by RootPartners . Watch th...

Jun 27, 202551 min

Rural Hospital Partnerships: Addressing Distress and Strategic Drift

Jeff Sommer, Managing Director, Stroudwater Associates, speaks with Tom Waldrep, former United States Bankruptcy Judge with the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Middle District of North Carolina, about how financial and operational distress affects rural hospital partnerships and why strategic drift destroys value and jeopardizes strategic options. They discuss the early warning signs of distress that could lead to bankruptcy or sale, strategic options for mitigating distress and entering ...

Jun 24, 202550 min

Workforce Issues in Health Care Transactions

Tom Donohoe, Shareholder, Hall Render Killian Heath & Lyman PC, Kelly Adams, Region General Counsel, Intermountain Health, and Barb Grandjean, Partner, Husch Blackwell LLP, discuss the various labor and employment considerations that are present in health care transactions, with a focus on the current M&A environment. They cover issues related to pre-due diligence, due diligence, the transaction itself, and integration. Tom, Kelly, and Barb wrote an AHLA Briefing and spoke on an AHLA web...

Jun 20, 202536 min

Health Care Corporate Governance: DOJ’s Criminal Enforcement Plan and Board Oversight Responsibility

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine, Partner, McDermott Will & Emery, about the Department of Justice Criminal Division’s recent release of its new white collar criminal enforcement plan and the board’s oversight responsibility for corporate compliance with the law. They discuss how the new plan relates to governance, the government’s current approach to health care fraud and abuse enforcement, and key compliance takeaways ...

Jun 17, 202521 min

Operation Brace Yourself, Part Two: Defending DME Clients

Operation Brace Yourself, a massive 2019 Department of Justice operation involving the durable medical equipment (DME) industry, was one of the largest health fraud enforcement actions in history and had major legal and compliance repercussions for DME companies. In this two-part series, Stephen Lee, Solo Practitioner, Law Office of Stephen Chahn Lee, recounts the true story of two DME owners who unwittingly found themselves in the crosshairs of this massive government enforcement action. In par...

Jun 13, 202552 min

Operation Brace Yourself, Part One: Advising DME Clients

Operation Brace Yourself, a massive 2019 Department of Justice operation involving the durable medical equipment (DME) industry, was one of the largest health fraud enforcement actions in history and had major legal and compliance repercussions for DME companies. In this two-part series, Stephen Lee, Solo Practitioner, Law Office of Stephen Chahn Lee, recounts the true story of two DME owners who unwittingly found themselves in the crosshairs of this massive government enforcement action. In par...

Jun 10, 202544 min

Eli Lilly’s GLP-1 Litigation: Issues Related to Corporate Practice of Medicine and FDA Regulations

In a groundbreaking development for the digital health world, Eli Lilly, one of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies, has filed lawsuits against a growing number of telehealth companies over the sale of compounded drugs Mounjaro and Zepbound, two popular GLP-1 medications. Nawa Lodin, Associate, Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, and Lauren Petrin, Associate, Wiley Rein, discuss the background of compounding and when it is allowed under FDA regulations; the legal and regulatory issues...

Jun 06, 202528 min

Putting Price Transparency into Perspective

Jackie Selby, Partner, Epstein Becker & Green PC, Maria Nikol, CEO, Revelar Analytics LLC, and Karen Mandelbaum, Senior Counsel, Epstein Becker & Green PC, discuss current trends and developments related to price transparency. They cover why price transparency is important; provide an overview of the hospital transparency rule and the transparency in coverage rule for health plans; and detail how the rules are impacting providers, payers, and consumers. Jackie, Maria, and Karen wrote an ...

Jun 03, 202540 min

Issues Related to Health Care Employment Arbitration

Linda A. Michler, Arbitrator and Mediator, speaks with Christopher C. Murray, Partner, Ogletree Deakins, about arbitration in the health care employment space. They discuss how arbitration works; the strengths and weaknesses of arbitration; and issues related to selecting an arbitrator, cost, mediation, class action waivers, and mass arbitration. They also discuss special considerations related to health care employment arbitration, how employers and their counsel can make employment arbitration...

May 30, 202545 min

Practical Guidance to Enable Health Care Compliance Programs to Assess and Monitor AI

Andrew Mahler, Vice President of Privacy and Compliance Services, Clearwater, speaks with Kathleen Healy, Partner, Robinson Cole, and Robert Martin, Senior Legal Counsel, Mass General Brigham, about how health care compliance teams can build effective governance models, monitor legal risks, and prepare for enforcement activity related to artificial intelligence (AI). They discuss how to build an effective AI oversight framework and assess AI systems for bias and transparency, compliance consider...

May 27, 202534 min

Behavioral Health Hot Topics

Gerald (Jud) DeLoss, CEO, Illinois Association for Behavioral Health, Tania Archer, Counsel, Moore & Van Allen, Allison Petersen, General Counsel, INTEGRIS Health, and David Shillcutt, Partner, Epstein Becker & Green, discuss hot topics in behavioral health, including trends in managed care behavioral health, federal and state funding for behavioral health, and school-based crisis programs. Jud was Faculty Chair, and Tania, Allison, and David were members of the Faculty, of AHLA’s new co...

May 23, 202544 min

Preparing for and Responding to Ransomware Attacks in the Health Care Sector

As ransomware attacks grow more sophisticated, health care organizations face not just massive data privacy risks, but real-time threats to operations, patient safety, and regulatory compliance. Dave Bailey, Vice President of Security Services, Clearwater, speaks with Kirk Nahra, Partner, Wilmer Hale, and Paul Schmeltzer, Member, Clark Hill, about how ransomware impacts everything from hospital workflows to enforcement actions, and what health care organizations can do to prepare and respond to ...

May 20, 202533 min

Medicare Advantage: Navigating Uncertain Times

Medicare Advantage (MA) is one of the most popular insurance programs for the Medicare-eligible population, however it faces significant headwinds from both payer and provider organizations. Alan Lassiter, Principal, ECG Management Consultants, speaks with Christine Worthen, Member, Epstein Becker & Green PC, and Joe Mangrum, Partner, ECG Management Consultants, about the current state of MA, the complex issues confronting both payers and providers, and strategies for successfully navigating...

May 16, 202535 min

Evolving State Privacy Laws and the Impact on Digital Health Innovation

Omenka Nwachukwu, Principal Consultant, Privacy and Compliance, Clearwater, speaks with Kaitlyn O'Connor, Co-Founder and Partner, Elevare Law, about the growth in state privacy laws covering wide ranges of health data and how digital health companies are being impacted. They discuss the role state legislation is playing in addressing gaps left by federal health care privacy laws, how state privacy laws are going beyond the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) in certain ar...

May 13, 202538 min

Health Care Fraud and Abuse Investigations: Latest Trends and Developments

Joe Wolfe, Attorney, Hall Render Killian Heath & Lyman PC, speaks with Crane Pomerantz, Member, Clark Hill PLC, about the current landscape of health care fraud and abuse investigations. They discuss government enforcement under the previous administration, notable recent settlements, and enforcement priorities under the current administration. Clark is the author of AHLA Health Care Fraud and Abuse Investigations Handbook, Third Edition . From AHLA's Fraud and Abuse Practice Group . Watch t...

May 09, 202531 min

Health Care Corporate Governance: Developments in Board Refreshment Practices

Rob Gerberry, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, Summa Health, speaks with Michael Peregrine, Partner, McDermott Will & Emery, about the concept of “refreshment” and how health care systems can use this concept to effectively address board turnover. They discuss various refreshment tools such as director removal, term limits, mandatory retirement, evaluation mechanisms, director offboarding, and fitness to serve, as well as when to use exceptions in a board refreshment policy. Es...

May 06, 202522 min
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