¶ Healing Trauma and Finding Purpose
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How can trauma bring you your own personal growth ? I'm Beverly Glaser and I empower women to overcome their challenges in life business with so much more renewed purpose , and you can always find me on reinventimpossiblecom .
But a word of warning here If you've lived through a childhood trauma , this episode may not be for you of rising from sexual and emotional abuse , having an out-of-body experience and many of them and finding purpose in helping others heal through their darkness . Let's dive into the powerful story of Sahara . Celestial Welcome , sahara .
Oh , thank you , hello .
Sahara . I want to ask you if you could just share something to give some background to what your story is really all about when you were a child um , well , I , um , I was , you could say , an awakened child .
So , um , I was aware that I was , you could say , an awakened child . So I was aware that I was different from everybody else in my family and those around me . I had past life memories , for a start , and I knew not to talk about those experiences . Talk about those experiences .
So , from the word go , I was aware that I felt I had a soul , divine purpose being here , and it has taken me I'm 57 now , so I've been on a journey to discover more about what that sole purpose is , and it's taken me to this time to come to a place of a really fulfillment and holding peace .
So , yes , yes , because I really struggled with severe trauma here as a child . And how did you handle that trauma when you were living through it ?
As a child I actually tried to sit especially my father down . I used to try and sit him down and try and talk to him . So I was a typical codependency relationship when you've got adult children .
I was trying to parent my parents , but I also had a lot of spiritual experiences that assisted um to balance the darkness and the light um , so I would at times feel very alone and isolated um , and I was even homeless at one time as a child .
So I didn't feel I was getting much support from other uh human beings um , but I did feel I had support from from nature actually , and other um divine beings .
So that's where I went for solace and support and felt I could come to a more of a sense of harmony was out in nature um , and also because I had that um , it's very close to a near-death experience , I had a very big outer body experience and that gave me an an arc to hold me through my and still does hold me um through my journey , my journey .
When was the first time you ever had that out of body experience ? Because you probably know , because you're also a child psychotherapist as well , that many abused children , both sexually and emotionally , have these out ofof-body experiences . It's , it's a coping strategy . It's just so difficult to live in your own reality . Did you this first happen to you ?
When did you first experience that ?
I think you make a really um , answering that question . You make a really good point because at some points I would feel very dissociated , very I'm not in my body . I would cover up mirrors because I would see somebody else looking back at me . I was so not feeling present .
So I would know what that would feel like of lifting out of my body and going to what I would say is heaven was such a huge experience of love and peace and light that that was so different from freaking out when there was mirrors and having panic attacks . So I know what the difference is .
I know what , um , I felt held , I felt loved , and I realized that there was a bigger divine source , that is god . And so , yes , that that's um , it's beyond words , really beyond words . Um , yeah , and I feel very , very blessed to have had that experience .
Um , so that was , uh , when I was a 10 , when I had that experience and it's amazing that you could say that I'm very blessed to have that experience .
You chose trauma to work through your own trauma . Someone else would perhaps want to reject trauma and not want to go there at all . Why did you choose trauma , Zahara ?
That's another very powerful question . Through my journey , very in my sort of teenagers into my 20s I came across people saying that you chose your parents or you chose your life , and while I was still holding the trauma not not I still was holding a lot of the emotion and the post-traumatic stress that felt like an accusative , judgmental statement .
I did not understand it . I could not cope with that . Um . So I'm very aware of that .
Depending on where someone will be on their journey , that can be can be very jarring , um , but for where I am now sort of to do the leap and fast forward because I'm aware of the time that we've got um , which is all perfect , um , I in 20 , um , I think it'll be 2018 , I went to Bosnia and I stayed with some Bosnians there and I recognized the same
energy . Because I'm also a healer , a spiritual healer , I recognized the same energy of that , what they were describing and there was . You could feel it in the , in the cities , with the people of the war that they've been through . It was the same energy as I had experienced as a child in my family and that was one of the big sort of it .
It's more than a light bulb , more sort of aha moments , because I was able to support the people there , because people kept on wanting to come to me and tell them their story , because I felt that they knew I understood . I understood what they'd been through . It wasn't exactly the same , but I understood the trauma , what they've been through .
It wasn't exactly the same , but I understood the trauma . I understand the places that human beings can go to and I've healed from that and I understand so many sides .
So , for instance , even though I had psychotherapy myself in my 20s , I then went into an abusive relationship in my 30s and so I understood , like , from my mother's perspective , I relived the pattern . So that was very powerful .
So I chose everything so that I could understand , not just from a singular microcosmic perspective , but the macrocosm , and that is what I feel and believe and experience . That is what we're doing in humanity is where we're seeing the bigger picture now . Yes , we're seeing the bigger picture now , yes .
So Was that the turning point that you had to help others heal in the same way that you're learning , and have been learning , to heal yourself ?
I'd already been healing people for many years , like you mentioned , child psychotherapy . I'd already started energy and spiritual healing . That was a turning point in that I understood um in a way . What you've described was choosing the path , choosing the experiences and um and then understanding forgiveness .
Because that's another tricky one , because when you're in post-traumatic stress and trauma and holding the emotion , that can be um misinterpreted , I think , because it's it's not about forgetting what's happened . And for me the turning point with that was that I didn't want to hold on to the fear , the rage , the hurt , all of that .
So in a way it was forgiving myself . Then I could release the attachment I had , because I could embrace and allow myself to feel the difficult feelings so that they didn't have to be attached to the other person For instance , it might be my father or my mother .
I was able to then let them go as well , let that sort of chaining to the pain go , and so that for me was forgiveness .
For those who don't understand , explain sound and energy . Heal as you do that .
Okay , as you do that . Okay , so , in reference there , while I was talking about chaining , that is , we make attachments all the time when we communicate .
¶ Awakening to Spiritual Healing Journey
Um , most , uh , people are aware , I think , now , that when we communicate , we , the majority of the communication isn't through the word , it's through the energy , the emotion , the feeling . A lot of people have , um , a gut feeling and they don't question that , that their gut instincts , I feel it . You know that doesn't feel right .
That is not from the head , it's from the energy , yeah , the body . So , um , because I was had a lot of um outer body experiences and , as well as dissociation , I spent a long time getting back into my body so that I was not in a numbed experience .
And I think there's a lot of humanity that have experienced a lot of trauma and so are numbed to being alive in their body , for being sensual .
And emotion is energy , feeling is energy , everything is energy , and so when you are a healer , you work on that level , you , you go by direct to the energy and light language talk about that um , well , I started what you would call light language , where , because I work shamanically , um , and I would hear birds singing with the drumming , when I'd be drumming
with other people in a circle , in a teepee or around a fire , and I would hear birds singing or wolves howling and all sorts of other sounds . And so then I started sounding along with what I was hearing from the spirit realm , spirit , animal spirits and guides . And so then that in the present day is called light language .
But , um , people back then , so that was in what I didn't know many , many years I've been doing this . People would say , well , how , how , how have you , um , learned how to do shamanic singing ? And then then fast forward a few years and it's now , how did you learn to do light language ?
And it's like , well , I hear it , and then I want to sound along with like in a um , so um , it's singing , um sounding . So I I predominantly sing like language . Some people talk like language . It's very hard to relay what it is because it's not coming through the rational mind .
It's the sounds and vibrations , a bit like om , I would would say you know that from the uh , that's an indian um tradition , so a lot of that I would call light language , actually um it's healing tones um , yeah , and today we have scientific research that it is healing .
Binary , binary beats , for instance . You can even find this on the internet . It's soothing , it helps people with autism , it helps people with bipolar disorder . It's a sound that for you or for me may be completely different , and it's just a sound , like you mentioned , which comes from really within .
It's a universal sound , but it's healing and Indigenous people throughout the world . This is nothing new , but now we have scientific research , so that grounds it . It just doesn't happen . It's there and we are all emotional beings , like you said , and when we have body and spirit , it all comes together .
So how does all these life experiences today , zahara , how does it affect you ?
um it it's been . Um . It's taken me a while to accept that a lot of people who I've met on my journey , from the different spiritual um groups and traditions , have been wanting to explore and open up more . Um , my um journey has been not to open up more .
I'm very open and because of the trauma in my childhood about of of not being valued and not being loved in a way that was loving enough for me , and then , being homeless , there was a lot of rejection and I wanted to find home . I wanted to be part of a group , a family , to belong , to be accepted , to be loved , to be like others .
And yet , um , I have now come to a place where I realize the gift . It's a gift and gifts I in that dis-ease of not feeling at home on the planet or with each other , this divisiveness that's occurring . So I understand , because I've had that journey really powerfully from a childhood , of feeling I didn't belong .
So now I'm seeing it on a you know big scale . I understand what that pattern is and also the energy that goes with it , and so now , um , I'm feeling I'm able , I'm really able to . Um , now I've healed so much that I'm able to be with the I'll put it in words the bigger unity , the bigger of connectedness of everything and everyone .
And I've always been able to see like through to people's soul or their past life or different aspects , and when I was healing more of my trauma I would tune into that with people . But now I'm like , oh , let's tune in with people on the level that I want to resonate more now because of where I've arrived at .
So what I hear is it's opened you up , just opened you up to everybody . You're not fearful , it's like you've just come out of yourself . It's a gift . Yes , I want to ask you what message would you like to share to other women who are on their own spiritual path and they don't know what to do ?
it is never too late .
I went to , I went to art college straight from school , left art college not able to do any art and then when I was um , I don't 50 , I then , quite fearfully and sort of very tentatively , would just draw one line on a piece of paper and then over weeks and weeks and weeks I would sit with another friend and we would just chat and do some doodling I'm
only doodling and then the doodles got a bit more lines and then now that's a big part of what I do and I love making images . I also sound and sing . I'm not a trained singer . All this started in this stage of my life because of my . The journey was needed to be like the vessel to hold everything and then to express my journey .
So it's , it's it , that whole concept of even that phrase . It's never too late , it's all perfect in divine timing , um , and it can be fearful , but then that's part of the , the wonder and the magic , and um , it's like coming full circle .
You , you're the inner , your inner child can flower and come out and play with that wealth of wisdom as well , um , so yes , I want to thank you .
Thank you for being so open , so honest , so transparent , and it was a beautiful interview . It was really my pleasure , oh , my pleasure . Thank you very much . Zahara Celestial is an energy healer , a sound healer , a spiritual guide who has dedicated her life to assisting others in their own spiritual growth and healing . Where can people find you , zahara ?
I have a website which is my name , so it's very easy Zahara Celestial , and that's where you can find me . And then I've got a youtube channel and this , that and the other , facebook . But if you just go to my website , you can , you can find me there perfect .
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