¶ X-Men 97 Reboot and Diversity
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Welcome to the Afternoon Pint . I'm Mike Tobin , I am Matt Conrad , and who do you have with us today ?
Well , thank you , sugar . This here is Lenore Zan aka Rogue of the X-Men From the X-Men .
There you go . That's amazing , and we were talking about this . I flew in .
I just flew in . My arms are tired , amazing .
So X-Men 97 has been a huge show this year . It's on Disney+ Marvel Television and the Marvel Universe . It's a reboot of a very popular 90s Marvel cartoon . We watched it . We watched both . We watched it as kids and as adults the new one and it was fantastic .
We loved it . The storyline was amazing . This year they picked it right up . It was great . And you know what else I liked about it . It felt like it aged with the people who watched in the 90s .
Exactly Right .
It was a real fan service type thing , exactly .
It was fun to watch , so now are you guys telling me you were nerds when you were younger .
I played sports also , so I'm balanced it out .
I'm comfortable to say I was still two years ago .
You know it's cool to be nerd now Of years ago , but uh , you know it's . It's cool to be nerd .
Now , of course , nerd being a nerd is cool . Yeah , you know , when I play , uh , I played .
I played competitive football up until about two years ago and I'm telling you I I played with , like you know , I'll call them kids , but I played with kids who were 18 , 19 years old and all of them like anime and all this other stuff and stuff that I think is kind of nerdy yeah but they're all into it and I was just kind of like , all right , cool
right .
I mean you know we're complicated beings , right , but yeah well , you know , I get a lot of um fan mail too from people that are in the military a lot of folks that are that are stationed overseas , and so back in the day in the 90s , I used to get like snail mail yes written by many soldiers who were stationed , like in the gulf war and things like that
, and they were in ships and they had . They brought with them x-men tapes touching them while they were trying to like relax and yeah , take their mind off what they had to do , so , yeah , so I mean
nerds are everywhere I think the thing about x-men , though , is I mean as much as , like you know , wolverine is always like one that that's considered a really big fan favorite obviously , spider-man and stuff like that , but I think amongst Batman , batman , yeah , that's on the DC side , but yeah , you're right , that's a huge one .
But Rogue is right up there with a lot of people and I think , at least with my age , rogue was like number two .
Well , she's strong right , like number two . Well , she's strong right . She's the strongest woman in the universe . Yeah , yeah , you can take anyone's power right . Yeah .
The special thing about X-Men is how advanced they are and how like of a criticism it is on our society . It's so deep .
Yeah .
And I know that and I'm diving right into it other things . So , yeah , we're here . That's why you're going to chapters .
So you're going to becon November 10th for the costume contest .
Yeah , so we're going in there for that . So we're going to be there .
And you're going to be dressed up as Wolverine Maybe .
We'll see about that , but yeah , I'm sure that everyone would love to see you back there someday , I know that you said you did it once .
I would love to go someday . Yeah , but yeah , we'll make sure that you yeah well , you're everywhere this year , Holy smokes .
The thing that's special about being about X-Men and there's a little controversy around Morph and his non-binaryism and all that stuff , which that's a whole other topic . But the thing that's great about the X-Men . It kind of came and went , that whole thing it did .
It was like before the show actually aired the new show , there were a lot of people online . Well , not a lot . There were more people that were really excited about the show coming back Absolutely . But , there were some people who were like oh yeah , it's Disney , they're going to make it all woke . Oh , they've got this non-binary character . Blah , blah , blah .
But he actually is fluid , he is .
Or they are yeah , yeah .
He is a fluid being .
They can become anything they want , or she or it or they and whatever yeah .
Like Morph , is a fluid being Always was . Yeah , always was , but that's the thing that's lost . I think about X-Men is there's a lot of people who were riled up about that that miss the point of X-Men , the genius of Stan Lee .
Like you know , we're talking like 40 , 50 years ago now , creating a group of people that are misunderstood , that are , you know , under-serviced , different or whatever Considered different . Except , and they're just trying to exist in a world right that hates them .
That hates them only because they're different and they're not understood Exactly and they want to try and make a better world where everybody's accepted and where everybody can live in harmony with each other .
That's right .
And that's so beautiful . I mean Stan Lee . I wish I had met him while he was alive , but Stan Lee wrote it back . Actually they're about 60 years old yeah , yeah .
He wrote it at a time when , you know , racism was rampant and during the civil rights movement , and it was a lot to do with that , and that's what the X-Men stood for everybody coming together and being one brotherhood and sisterhood of man , so to speak .
And a lot of people think that Professor X was a little bit like Martin Luther King and Magneto is a little bit like Malcolm X .
I can see that the different ways of approaching things Right because Magneto is a little bit like Malcolm X . I can see that , yeah , the different ways of approaching things . Right .
because Magneto's kind of like burn it all down . You know we'll do whatever it takes .
More aggressive . Yeah , right , and .
Martin Luther King was like no , no , we need to be able to have peace , love , no violence .
Yes .
And so that's how it all came about . And now , when you look at what's going on in the world today , there's still racism , sadly .
Yeah .
Right , but also there's this otherism of migrants , immigrants , people of a different faith . Lgbtq People from the LGBTQ community yeah , and so a lot of those folks they've related to the X-Men all these years .
Yeah .
And many people in the LGBTQ community relate to Rogue because she can't touch anybody .
Right .
And so they've always felt like it was hard for them to be able to express their affection for somebody of the same sex , because they felt they would be shunted . And you know , hurt yes .
Right yeah .
And so that's why it's really quite beautiful that we speak to so many people and they say you helped me grow up , you saved me at different times in my life . This is what we hear from the fans .
Wow .
Because you made us feel like it's okay to be different .
Yeah , I just wanted to start off with that because I thought it's a really cool thing to be a part of the X-Men .
It is .
As much as like there's . You know , obviously Disney's huge with Marvel and all that stuff right now . You know they're going to get their chance .
Well , they bought Marvel , yeah .
They're going to get their chance to do the X-Men right and then they did Deadpool . Yes , and .
Deadpool's a huge success .
I saw that twice . Yeah , it was a riot . Oh yeah , no , that was fantastic .
I got to watch it the second time with Kevin Feige .
Oh , no way , oh wow .
Yeah , and I got to meet him afterwards and stuff like that . He met me for the first time . He goes oh my God , you even sound like Rogue .
I'm like I wonder why . Yeah , to everybody , you sound like Rogue . It's amazing .
The crazy thing is , too , is I'm stunned that I didn't put two and two together , Because I actually the first time I met you , you were MLA for the NDP party here in Provincial E and I was up an event in Truro and you stopped by and were kind of saying hi to people and stuff like that and I was running into a barbecue part of that , and that's the
first time I met you and I had known you because I'm a bit of a political geek In Victoria .
Park In Victoria Park , exactly , yeah , Okay right and yeah .
So I was like , oh , that's cool , and I've watched you in the legislature and stuff like that . And actually you had recently just I can't remember exactly what it was , but I remember my wife and I were watching the legislature and you were giving it to someone .
And we were just like ooh , oh , this is like reality tv kind of like you were .
It was a spicy over what I wish . I honestly wish I could have been the teachers .
It was it . No , you know what I ?
or the film . Getting rid of the film and television it was one of those .
It was around that timeline , but the teachers .
I was the education critic and I was up there fighting for the teachers and fighting for their my wife's teacher collective bargain . I bet that's so . I bet it was teacher thing .
It was my wife's teacher and we were probably watching it a lot then . That's probably what it was , yeah , so yeah , so we were re-watching it and I remember . So I met you just like a couple weeks after that , and I remember telling my wife I met you and everything , aw .
That being said , though , had I known you were a rogue Okay , no , like you know to that , and I was just kind of like I would have geeked out probably back then , because I was like bro
¶ Uncovering X-Men Impact and Personal Journey
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There was something I saw about the X-Men that you guys didn't really know . It was as monster of a success as it was , because at the time things were kind of different .
Well , there was no social media . No social media , there was no email .
There was mail bags , but they weren't always getting delivered . So to think .
I know the cast of the original X-Men are all Canadian . I really can't push that enough .
That's insane .
It's amazing . So that show , the X-Men , the animated series from the 90s , became one of the top two animated series of all time . That one and Batman .
I was going to say the Batman , the animated , yeah .
And X-Men , and that's in a time and we're all Canadian that was really like kind of like in those early 90s .
It was like a highlight , like maybe prime of animated superhero , because there was Batman but there was also Spider-Man .
Yes .
Like they tried a couple other ones they had , like Avengers and Iron man and things like that as well . There was a lot of good animation in the early 90s that you guys had to compete against .
And Saturday mornings , Saturday morning cartoons . A lot of kids would just get up out of bed and they'd watch the show . In many towns and cities that I meet people at the Comic Cons they say that when they were kids they used to rush home from school , depending on the time zone .
Some of them would rush home from school to watch X-Men and some of them would rush home from school to watch . X-Men , oh yeah , and some of them would watch it first thing in the morning before they went to school . Amazing . But they all said that it changed their lives , it made their lives better and it made them who they are today .
So we never knew the effect we were having on people until about five years ago . Five years ago , just before the pandemic , maybe two years before the pandemic we were invited those of us in the original show invited to Texas to go to a reunion of the . X-Men to celebrate the 25 years of the X-Men , and we went there and the fans were just incredible .
They were so excited to meet us . And then from there we were invited to LA to the LA Comic Con , which is a big one . I just was at it this past weekend actually signing my books and stuff , and there were 100,000 people at that one and they roared .
When we came out on stage to do a panel , we had lineups around the block and we all looked at each other and went what's going on ? And then finally we found out that all of these folks had been huge fans for years .
Yeah .
And we never knew it .
Wow .
Because there was no social media , there was no emails , there was no nothing .
Yeah .
And Fox who owned the show back in the day .
I found out recently that there were all these bins full of fan mail at Fox and they were lined up down the hallway , up to the ceilings , down two hallways , and one of our producers for the show said Lenore , we had no idea how popular the show was , and then we got stuck with all this mail and we didn't know where to send it .
So they never sent it to us , to the actors . We never did see it and sadly , those kids never got us to write back to them . But now we are able to talk to them online and at the Comic-Cons and it's been really amazing .
Yeah .
Yeah , it's really fulfilling to know you've helped some people along the way . Absolutely yeah , so back , really fulfilling to know you've helped some people along the way .
Absolutely yeah . So back when you were recording you said it's all Canadian cast , were they in ?
Toronto .
We were all in .
Toronto . I was living in Toronto at the time , being an actor doing movies and television and stuff , and X-Men was only my second animated show .
Wow , okay , what was the first one ?
The first one was one called Stunt Dogs . Okay , it was about stunt people and I played a southerner in . That called Sizzle Okay , and so I got to practice a southern accent .
So it helped with Rogue . It did . Yeah , yeah , okay , all right , you were born in Australia .
Yeah , born in Australia , sydney Australia .
Moved to .
Regina , saskatchewan , for a year , where my parents were teachers . And then we heard how beautiful Nova Scotia was , and so we drove across the country and we camped all the way along , like Banff and Jasper and Niagara Falls .
You know we did the whole tourist thing , but we camped all the way in a whole summer and then made our way to Nova Scotia , to Truro , and we never left .
Yeah , yeah , that's awesome .
We just fell in love with it .
So yeah , so yeah , so yeah moved Truro . Obviously you laid down some roots . Yeah , because you know you decided to really get involved .
Yes , yeah , well , I bought a house and you know the voice acting was great . Like I did a lot of film and television , I did a lot of theater . I did it right across Canada and also in the United States and in Europe as well . I even worked and lived for a year in England , in London and Stockholm , sweden where I did a play .
Yeah , I saw that and it was fantastic , you know .
so I got a chance to live in a different country where they had different political system . They had like a social democratic system and I was very curious and very interested about politics . So the book is also about that , about my travels and about everything that I learned from traveling around the world .
Yeah , you were born in Australia University of Toronto .
I went to York University . Oh , okay , in Toronto , oh in Toronto , yes , york University in Toronto . And you ?
studied drama arts and political science .
And political science . Yeah , yeah , there you go . That's weird . You did all those things Because I was interested in all of it .
Amazing and Marilyn Monroe .
And played Marilyn Monroe . Marilyn Monroe was one of my well , that was my first starring role when I was 19 . Amazing . I got discovered over at the Charlottetown Festival . Okay yeah , I actually started at 16, . My first professional show at the Neptune Theater right here in Halifax oh cool , okay , it was the musical Gypsy .
Yeah .
And I got paid $75 a week and I loved it , wow . So I had an apartment here and everything and I lived with my boyfriend and we were in the shows together and then I went back to school . Then I came back the next summer , I did more theater , got an apartment again and then Charlottetown Festival the year after that Playing small roles .
But you know , when you're an actor and you want to be working and learning the trade , you know you're happy to get it 100% . And then at the end of the summer in Charlottetown I had been understudying Anne in Anne of Green Gables .
Okay .
And so I never got a chance to actually go on as Anne , which was disappointing .
Oh yeah .
But at the end of the summer they did like a concert called the Maude Whitmore Scholarship Concert and you got a chance to perform anything that you wanted to perform , that you felt could show what you could really do .
So I did a song from a musical called Funny Girl , oh yeah , called the Cornette man , and it was a real razzmatazzy , real showy kind of number .
And I walked out on stage in a trench coat and fishnet stockings and a beret with my hair and finger curls and then I , halfway through the song , ripped off the coat and was in this sexy little number underneath the coat and did this little routine and belted out this song .
And a guy happened to be in the audience who had just written a rock opera on the life of Marilyn Monroe . And they were looking for the right actress to play Marilyn Monroe and they'd been searching for a year . And he turned to his wife and the two of them said that's Marilyn . Wow , and that's how it happened , so you never know .
And then your life from there just went . I mean the book , I mean just I read a bunch of notes on the book and I mean you've met Spielberg , you've worked with yes , Spielberg , keanu Reeves had a wonderful weekend with Keanu .
Reeves .
Yeah so tell me a little bit about that , matt Dillon .
Matt Dillon , oh my gosh Andy Gib , who's the younger brother of the Bee Gees , oh yeah , yeah .
So yeah , your book has the good and the bad and the ugly . The good the bad and the ugly , and I mean , I think , the ugly bit , I mean , you know , paralleling with Marilyn Monroe . Yes , getting into your 30s , addiction became a bit of a problem .
Exactly .
And by the sounds of it , what you said , you had a bit of a spiritual awakening .
Yes , I mean , marilyn Monroe was this beautiful woman who had , if you would think , on paper she had everything . She had the men , she had the money , she had the fame , she was gorgeous . But she never really learned how to love herself .
And what many of us do , who don't know how to love ourselves , is we try to fill in that void with something outside of ourselves . That could be a substance , that could be food , that could be sex that's not healthy , that could be shopping , addictions , gambling , you know , you name it .
So Marilyn Monroe died at the age of 36 from an alcohol and drug overdose . And by the time I was 36 , I'd done a lot of movies and TV and all that stuff . I'd done X-Men . I had done four seasons of the X-Men . We still didn't know the show was successful or popular . But I reached a point in my drinking where I really hit bottom .
Where I was just I couldn't keep food down . I was vomiting all the time and I just felt like it was a crutch . I needed it in order to just live .
And I reached a point , in Los Angeles actually , where I finally realized that looking at the bottom of a toilet bowl every morning was the most depressing thing you could think of of how to start your day , and I realized that I was on my way to death , which , to be honest , I was self-destructive , as most addicts are , but I decided that the braver choice
was to live and face all of my fears and face all of my fears Amazing , and so I got up off my knees from the toilet that particular day and I called AA and this beautiful black woman came to my door and she had the hope in her eyes and the joy , everything that I was missing .
And she took me to my first AA meeting on Martin Luther King Boulevard .
Oh my gosh , oh , okay .
And I was the only white person in the meeting .
Mm-hmm .
And they loved me and they said , lenore , you do not know how to love yourself .
That's beautiful .
But we love you . And there's a beautiful soul inside of you and the addict is trying to kill her .
That's an awakening , for sure . It was an awakening like you wouldn't believe and to think like you had all this stuff going on with your career . That was successful . Yeah , but you didn't really know it , right .
It's kind of like you're doing something great and you don't see it for yourself , because it just seems like you're slogging through and even when you're like Marilyn Monroe she had everything Right , but it didn't make any , Because if you don't feel like you're worthy .
If you don't feel worthy and you feel like you're never going to be enough and nothing that you do is ever going to be enough , and that you're not really a good person and you hate yourself .
Yeah .
It's really sad , you know .
It's funny too .
They helped , they saved my life .
Yeah , and that was 28 years ago . Outside looking in , like you know , people would think like , okay , you know you're in Hollywood and you know there's a lot of glamour and all that stuff that comes Like . People idolize that life and meanwhile they don't know that you're waking up staring at a toilet bowl every morning .
Exactly , right , right , exactly .
You just don't know what's going on behind closed doors for people .
That's right . So many , I mean you don't have to scratch very far to find how many people in Hollywood have died of overdoses .
Yeah , isn't that the truth . So did it come to a point for you where acting was out and politics was in ?
It's interesting because I got sober at 36 , and then I finished X-Men and I went on and did a bunch of other things more movies and TV and theater and all that and then by the time I turned 40 , I decided that I wanted to write a play about Marilyn Monroe and perform it in New York off Broadway . And so I did that .
I wrote the show in New York and LA and in Seafoam , Nova Scotia , which is where my mom and dad had a little cottage and I went there and it just was great to write and so I wrote this play . And then I went back to New York and I went there and I it just was great to write and so I wrote this play .
And then I went back to New York and I put it on and the people loved my writing and and I made it very political what was the play called ?
it was called the Maryland Tapes oh yes , okay , that was huge yeah yeah yeah , that was very popular off Broadway for a while right For about a year I did
¶ Political Journey Towards Authentic Representation
it .
And I realized that I really loved saying my own lines like what things . That meant something to me rather than just saying other people's scripts , right . And so I was like I think it's time for me to step out from behind the mask of a character and just be myself . And so I moved home .
I bought a house in Truro because I wanted to be closer to the family , and I started doing things like helping to save the old normal college in Truro , which they were going to tear it down because they said oh it just needs the wrecking ball .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , and I'm like , no , what year was this guys Like round about ? Do you remember 2007 .
Okay , 2007 , 2008 .
And I helped . I raised $72,000 . And we did a feasibility study that showed if you repurpose it , they will come . Like if you rebuild it , you know , if you turn it into something that the community can use today and keep that beautiful structure . It will be a jewel in the crown of the downtown Truro , and that's exactly what happened .
And now it's our library . It's got like a little skating rink out front . Everybody commutes there and it's just beautiful . But that was my first foray into like doing some public service and then I was asked to run for the NDP in Truro . What ?
made you choose them .
Well , because my parents had always been NDPers .
Okay .
And because I'd lived in Sweden Stockholm , sweden and I learned what social democracy is and . I believed in all of that and I thought , well , that's the closest that we have to that in Canada , Okay . So they asked me if I would run and I thought , well , why not ? Now my mother and my sister told me I was crazy . I would never , win .
You know , Truro is a conservative town .
It is , though , too , which is crazy . To think actually Like even federally , like that I mean we can get to it . To think actually like even even federally , like that I mean we can get to . Obviously , you obviously want it for the liberal party , and we'll get to that , but like that's even .
It's pretty conservative it is , and two , two conservative premiers came out of there too , right yeah , stanfield and smith obviously the most one smith . But but my dad said go for it . You know what have you got to lose ? And I said exactly right , and that's been my attitude all along . It's just like what have you got to lose ?
And I said exactly Right , and that's been my attitude all along it's just like , what have I got to lose ? People that said , oh , you're going to try and go and get work in the States , you know how are you going to do that ? Or how are you going to get a job in LA .
Or oh , you're going to do a play in New York , how are you going to do that ?
Yeah .
You just go and you come back and you know I've never gone and stayed somewhere Like this has always been my home .
Right .
And I'm proud of that .
Yeah .
So where were we going with that ?
What was the question ? Ndp , yes , ndp . So then I ran , you ran and I won in a landslide . There you go . Yeah , crushed it , so they called it a .
Zanslide A . Okay , so tell me , how did you win over , I guess , a mostly conservative town ? What do you think did it ? I think just being myself . Yeah .
I think people , bottom line political parties , the names and everything , the colors , the banners , you know you can give or take what they are . It's what your principles are and what you stand for . That's the most important they are . It's what your principles are and what you stand for . That's the most important .
And I think , when people can see authenticity , you know right , Like they want to know that somebody is representing them , who they can trust , who is going to do what they say they're going to do , or at least die trying . You know , that they're going to give it their all .
Like a sports team , you know that they're going to give it their all and , let's be honest , like a sports team In Nova Scotia , like the three major provincial parties are not that different from each other .
True , they're not that dissimilar yeah .
You know , like they're all kind of rushing to the center , one just leans like center left , center right kind of thing , whatever right .
And then one's in the middle , and one's in the middle and one's in the middle some .
Some may argue that the names don't always match up . That's true , too , how you lean and how you don't ?
that's very true that , and having been in the ndp and then going federal with the liberal party , exactly um , I can definitely say that that is true .
Well , you would have been there with dexter I was , and and dexter , I would say , would be not as liberal as trudeau .
In some ways , although he was very Dexter , was very social democratic about many things , yeah , but I think he had a lot of people that were talking to him where he wasn't necessarily listening to those of us who had the boots on the ground .
Yeah , okay .
And we were the ones that were hearing in our communities what was going on and what things that mattered , for instance , again , education . You know , if you're going to make cuts to education , that's not a good thing .
People don't like that one . No , you don't touch education , you don't touch health care . Right , right , it hurt us .
And my parents are both teachers . My sister was a teacher and my parents are both teachers . My sister was a teacher , so I was very adamant during that whole time that I believe in teachers and what they do and they're very important to our society , and so I managed to hold on to my seat at a time when most of my colleagues in the NDP lost theirs .
We had 31 seats and we were a government , the first NDP government in history , Nova Scotia yeah . And my mom and dad and I were so happy and proud . All our friends were happy and proud . And then we lost government .
We went from 31 seats down to seven and I was one of them , and you lost it to—yes , yeah , and you were one of them , but you lost it to a liberal government .
Yes , but McNe one of them , and then you , but you lost it to a liberal government , yes , but mcneil was not very conservative very conservative .
That's what I mean too . Like he was a very conservative liberal guy right , he would be like kind of almost leaning right .
I would agree on that right .
Yes , yes so yeah , that kind of speaks to like nova scotia and how the names don't matter , right , it's kind of thing . And then then , yeah , and then you decide to run for Trudeau's .
Yeah , like I mean I won three elections provincially .
Right .
So I was in for ten years a decade . Yeah , yeah , I had an apartment in Halifax . I was in the legislature , in the province house . That's where I introduced my bill on environmental racism .
Yes , yeah , the first time in 2015 .
It never passed because by that time we were not in government , right and but I kept introducing it every year . And then finally , um , there was going to be a federal election . Bill Casey was the uh , the member of parliament for Cumberland , colchester and he came to me and asked me if I would like to run , but for the liberals .
So I had to have a meeting with my dad and my mom and say what do you think ? And we agreed that we felt Trudeau was very progressive . We loved his father and his father was part of the reason why we came over from Australia to Canada . Oh no , way Okay .
Because we'd come over in 1968 when Trudeau Sr was prime minister and he had put out a call to Australia and New Zealand for teachers , because there was a shortage of teachers in Canada that year .
Oh , interesting .
We sailed over on a boat , the SS Canberra , with 2,000 Australian and New Zealand teachers .
Whoa .
Yeah , mom and dad were two of them .
And now we're doing the same thing with paramedics . There you go . We are doing the same thing Full circle .
And this is in the book . So , this is how it all starts , this is how we came to .
Canada , and then ended up staying .
So I flew up to Ottawa , I met with him and I met with Jagmeet Singh to talk about representing either one of them , and I came away and went . You know what I really relate to Trudeau . I think he's an honorable man , a very personable
¶ Celebrity Q&A
man .
I think we play the questions game here .
in a moment we're going to know one of your answers , oh okay , all right , there you go . We're going to get that in here .
Anyway , I loved him , so I said sure we might as well get into the questions . If you're yeah , let's go All right , let's do it .
You do number one . Everybody , I'm going to start number one , Okay , so these are , yeah , ten questions , fun little questions . So in X-Men 97 , there's a bit of a love triangle between Rogue , Magneto and Gambit . Which Marvel character would Lenore Zahn choose as her lover , if Her lover , if she had to pick ?
Gambit .
Oh , okay .
No problem there , all right , all right , all right , no question that one's easy .
This one , next one , I think from the last bit will be pretty easy too .
Yeah , I think it'll be pretty easy .
We've asked almost everyone this question . Yeah , Between Trudeau , Paul D Evans Singh , which Prime Minister would you choose ?
Trudeau , there you go , absolutely .
Too easy for that one . Now Number three If you could play any character from any other renowned book , movies or series , who would it be ?
Oh my goodness , that's a hard one who would it be ?
We have some deep stuff here .
Yeah , I don't know . I have to come back to that one .
Okay , I'm going to pause on that one because there's something I forgot about . We on this year had Barry Dunn on the show .
Oh yes , and talked about the movie the Madones . The Madones , yes , that was great .
It was so great to be part of that and when I was doing the little bit of research for the show here today that we did , I was like I thought of your character in that show and . I thought what if Lenore Zahn went the other way ? Other way .
Which other way ? Never got off drinking and alcohol .
And started to live a life of debauchery .
That could have ended up being that character . We could do a show about it .
I was just saying it could have been that other . It was kind of like another portal into how your life could have went . It's just kind of crazy . It was a great show . I watched it .
Thank you .
That was when we first reached out to you , right it's just kind of crazy .
It was a great show . I watched it , thank you , I really enjoyed it . That was when we first reached out to you . Actually , right , that's right . It had .
Barry on . Actually that movie and another one we did here called Stage Mother by Tom Fitzgerald , is a really beautiful movie , oh cool .
I haven't seen that one , and they can both be seen on Prime Video now . You can rent them . Okay , sorry about that . I have to think about that one . I don't know yet . All right , we'll come back to it .
So your turn , I guess , question four being an accomplished actor , politician and now author do you have any other hidden talents , anything that we don't know . Is it maybe in this book or otherwise ? Just fun .
Well , yeah , you'd have to read the book to find out . But I mean , I also sing and I will be having an album coming out in the next year or so ?
Oh , no way . Okay , cool , there you go .
Awesome Rogue Sings yes , I wrote a song actually for it , called Mojo man .
Oh nice .
About Gambit . Yeah , yeah , yeah , oh , it's about Gambit . Yes , oh , there you go .
What did you ?
think of .
Gambit and Wolverine and X-Men Did .
He was fun . I had so much fun . He did a great job . Yeah , I did too . I laughed a lot yeah me too . So number five . So if you could travel to any place in time , where would you go and why ?
Oh , my goodness , where would I go . I'd love to go back to the 1800s and meet some of my ancestors .
Oh , okay . Yeah , I'd love to meet some of my ancestors 1800s yeah , that's a long time ago , it is .
But that's around when they either got sent to Australia in chains as convicts , that's right . Young men Two of them . I have two on both sides of the family who were highway robbers .
Oh , wow .
One was in Ireland , one was in England . They got sent to Botany Bay in Australia . How did you ?
figure all that out .
Ancestrycom .
Oh , really Okay yeah .
I did the DNA thing and then I met all these cousins and people that are related oh wow .
Insane and we put it all together ? Yeah , it was very interesting , very cool .
Yeah .
Number six . I think that's you . What's your favorite thing about life ?
Life . What's your favorite thing ?
about life , life Something you enjoy , life itself Just life itself .
Okay , well , just being on this side of the dirt ?
Yes , exactly .
You a dog , cat or nun lady ?
I have had both dogs and cats . I love them both , I love them all . I love animals , period , I love animals . But I did have three Shih Tzus and they all died , one after the other One at 17 years old , one at 15 , and one at 14 .
That's pretty long-lived . Yeah , you're up . Have you ever gotten a fist fight ?
No , I've never had a fist fight .
Disappointing , but okay , we're moving on . Yeah .
All right , yeah , all right . Question number nine name one conspiracy that you are uncertain of , but if you could actually , if you could actually it , but you think could actually be real .
So it's seriously , oh , okay , so like ros the roswell well , not necessarily that , but just ufos I mean I think that could be real . I think that there's probably life on other planets .
Our Halloween episode . We talked about that . We have a paranormal investigator on . Just before we end when this episode airs .
Right , so he's on there , he talks about it . He's a former police officer who investigates that stuff Wow interesting .
I love stuff like that .
I'm really interested in that I kind of thought , with the whole Marilyn Monroe connection , that she was going to go but the JFK was , you know , like silence .
Assassinated . Yeah , silence type of thing . Well , you never know , that could be true too . I don't know about that one , but that could be true too .
All right , last question yes , we're going back to question three .
but yeah , oh , yeah , okay . What's one thing we could all do to make the world a better place ? That's every one of us .
Be kind yeah .
Premier said , that too Did he .
Well , I mean , I oftentimes say kindness is free .
Yeah .
It doesn't cost anything and if you just take that extra time to be nice to somebody instead of like snapping someone's head off or jumping , you know the gun . Online Everybody's so quick to anger and to be like sad and seeing the animosity on social media .
sometimes I'm just like what the heck is all this about when the Aurora was going on , yes , on social media . Sometimes I'm just like what the heck is all this about .
When the Aurora was going on and everybody was just putting up colorful pictures all night and everybody's like , oh my God , and loving each other's photos Like man too bad social media wasn't like that all the time .
All the time .
It was so lovely last night .
I agree it was really cool , I agree .
So watch X-Men .
X-Men 97 . Another season's coming out in 2025 ? 2026 , they say I have to wait that long . That's a long time to wait .
I've recorded all my lines , but they have to now animate it .
But you can now read Lenore Zahn's book A Rogue's Tale . Yes , you can .
And you can answer maybe that question number three if you've got a quick answer .
I'd love to do a lead in a TV series that's maybe like a detective . Oh , okay , she's a detective and maybe she rides a motorcycle .
Oh .
And you know . So she kind of lives a bit on the edge .
But she's I think they do a female reboot of Dick Tracy .
Oh , there you go .
There you go . I think you can take that Run with that With the trench coat with the fishnet tights underneath it , you could . That'd be cool . Green and yellow that would be cool . A little bit of throwback to the road thing . You heard it here . Folks , there you go . Lenore Zan , it's been a pleasure meeting Pleasure man . Absolute pleasure , Cheers .
Cheers . We'd love to talk to you again .
We'll have to do this again , anytime , anytime , thank you . Thank you so much and thanks for tuning in .