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Die große furchtbar reale Trump-Show

May 24, 202435 min
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Der Schweigegeld-Prozess gegen Donald Trump offenbart zwei Versionen des Ex-Präsidenten: Den bekannten Krakeeler und den alten Mann, der vor Gericht einschläft. Doch Amerika bekommt nur den Wüterich zu Gesicht. Trumps Narrative haben in den USA so längst die Realität ersetzt. Aber wie weit sind wir in Europa, in Deutschland von diesem Zustand entfernt? 

SPIEGEL-Korrespondent Marc Pitzke hat wochenlang jeden Tag am Gericht in New York verbracht. Dort konnte er Richter, Geschworene und den Angeklagten Donald Trump aus nächster Nähe beobachten. Im Podcast berichtet er von seinen Eindrücken und über den Niedergang seiner Wahlheimat USA. 

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A quarter-naps for a rig trot. It's a rig trot terrible. But we're doing very well in this rig trot Here is Acht Milliarden by the Auslands Podcast. My name is Olaf Häuser and in the past weeks I heard the reports of my colleague Mark Pitzke about the money-per-game process against Donald Trump to my favorite lecture. Mark had a generalist in the court and could watch the episodes of this show from next year. Because it's a long story from the show when it's about Donald Trump

He found his own narrative from the beginning. He had the reality as a lie, defamated and has been lying for so long until his hangar and many others are accepted as real. This is the condition Mark has experienced in the USA after more eight years of Trump. This is just one real deal. But there is no need to panic behind me as such, right now during the social struggle The Trump show is as before and under pressure, no question.

First of all, if you think of Europe, the head is shaking and thinks, why can this unneeded pop-pans with their bad Platten lie still so much to say? But maybe you should ask yourself why this is working as before? As important as reality has been, facts have been made between, when you also have a curious, curious, curious, big, ridiculous story, even if nothing is there. And how far are we in Europe? In Germany, actually, from this condition still far.

And that's why there is no only this episode about the former panel representative of the Prime Minister of the United States, about the former Trump-fascinated Michael Cohen and about the pre-war against Trump, but about the two realities that the process against the former president has heard. So, about Russia, actually nothing more. The Trump-angate AAPA. You had to say that this is the right-to-beard.

This unfulfilled, this really historic old, shabby, dirty, right-winged-to-beard, where all the criminals from New York through the march in the night of the day, every day. And that's where the president, in the former president of the US, is to see from five meters of education, we sit behind him, it's already interesting. And then again, the whole story, almost through, to decline, over which we have then been forced to have.

2015, as with the war against the US, 2016, how was the story with Stormy Daniels, with Kerram and Duval, this other human-mute-massive affair. And this insight into this powerful, gangster world, in which Trump has been lived for a long time and has been slaughtered by him in his house. That was already him. And these whole actors, again, I have to see Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, who was involved in the former, and now crowned against Trump.

David Pecker, the former colleague of the National Enquire, and this clotsplot, where the city was found. These people, which I see in my life, were like in movies. And it was shocking what happened, as we didn't notice. Like the women we had, like the money we had, like the waves we had taken to the NASA. That was already over. In this five-year-old process, two versions of your Trump came to an end. The one you know, who only used to use it before the cameras.

On process-free days, for example, on his rallies and events, and especially in the gangs of the church building, where he regularly looked for and that, although he already started the right to a so-called gang order, so to speak, a real Mao-Kopp. Of course, Trump did not pay anything else with his statements as the open-minded opinion to influence him, as much as much as it is as what happened in the church. But that would be the reason for the mistake of the fair.

And that's why he didn't get any German translation from us and was not always the same. It came from Biden. And I don't know if it's Biden, because I don't think Biden has any idea what the hell is happening. But it's the fascist that circle in the Oklahoma office. It's the beautiful, resolute gas that's being stinked out.

You really look at how behind the scenes, there is this film from the Zauber van Oss, there is this scene where the big, soft, old Zauber once is released, as a small old man, then the old man. So is that. Where the Zauber van Oss was a good, mutigian man, and Trump is also not. I already have a lot of processes covered here, but something like that. You spoke of Donald Trump as a man there, and Zauberd was there.

Do you remember the impression that the public or perhaps even more important in the jury and in the court in the court has transported? Yes, there are two different things. So in the public, he didn't have any camera with all the people he could see. So it was only in the public that the work was done through the work. That means, the Fox News Foundation is not good enough. So you can assume that the half of the Americans have not been with you, what actually happened in the case.

There are no photos, but very shortly at the beginning every day the 45 seconds of photograph will be photographed before the treatment begins. But I don't think that the public or Zauberd has at least the wide public that is, the more and more people who decide in five months if you come out in two more days, I have seen a question that only a book part of the question is a process of being in a way.

What the jury goes and the judge's question they have of course all seen in front of the court are the jury. They can of course see it. There are a few meters and the judge is against it. They of course have been kept full. The question is how does an public orpotta from this.

This is in such a Pollard respect agreed for the case, and which now opts within their куда Miguel Bozer und的是 Marty, Believe it or not, that states your understanding that it's obvious that it is still not apare, okay, I read the American colleagues from the media that I read myself, but I have never watched it. And such things.

Well, I already took this challenge in your texts, but also Trump has made it to be the classic Donald Trump always in the break and through tweets and through his constant expectations of the Gag Order. Yes, that was all appeared with me. So, in years everything changed any thing to Trump as head directly from the door. In the year, they could see paintings, painted hystrod, and protesters and great gentlemen in stamping.

Some people switch to their golden hair, there when they have had a camera, and that's what we've noticed at the moment. I think a little bit where it comes from. The process, his statement, his invitation and so on. Yes, of course. He didn't say anything at all. He did it at the beginning of the round. Yes, I say of course, to my own part, but when it came to that, he said to me that the war was going on and that's how it was going on.

And he was convinced that it was also a higher probability that I would say that I am not a tourist. But the state of the world really had a good job. They had great jobs and the parties did not even have a room to pay. They tried to make the main power as a luxury to be able to distribute and to discredit the microphone and the Stormy Daniels in the military have tried to take the rest of them, but both of them did very well.

He wasn't pint on the agg "[Circuitive the armory-bones of Mr. essentially is nothing like the 엄청 active right now." So themhn are able to take over a present after the set Trump is decided. Not that we are moving around the whole thing about the real process. Trump is accused of a $130,000 dollar dollar payment to the former Pono Darsteller in Stormy Daniels' who wants to have a affair with him. It is not about the affair itself, that must Trump with Milan's hands.

It is not about the payment of money, it is about the debt, about the combination of creative research and the attempt to influence the wall. Trump is not at all ready to have a affair with Stormy Daniels. The financial transaction, but that is the irreplaceable thing that the mayor gave the manipulator. However, only so, Trump's lawyer in the opening of the platoon to protect his family, reputation and market.

The Democratic Democratic Party is still talking about a fundamental narrative of the ex-president. Everything that Trump does is democracy. Everything that is against him is undemocratic. But it has to be enough again. With the later release of money, Trump did not do anything to make his party. I do not know how it works. You should come to this utilization with the court-affirming Order of E what are endeavors in the interest of his Tencenti.

The court will test for his wife according to the report using legal authority to pay the reprochements. It is VIDEO interesante complicated because providing money for bumper reopening is not a bank seller. The roadside is when you do that to push a different roadside. In this case, the roadside is the choice of the choice. From an argument, this is a pretty complicated chain. The question is whether the people are in the following or not. It's just a baguette, so the roadside is not right.

All 12 people have the same opinion. They all have to vote over if only one person is in the first place or the first person is out of the line and say I see right-handed doubts. Then the process is not free, but it is still enough that the plant load can be sold as a big one. On the coming Tuesday, the end plateaus of the city of Walshatt and the distribution will be held. After that, the residents and participants will finally receive their decision. And then the order will be delivered.

But even if the residents are now in the right place, the roadside is the right place to put the roadside in the right place for four years. I think it's not that easy. Even if the government says that four years have passed, the roadside is not going to be a problem. Then the government will first receive a decision. It's going to be a little bit more difficult. It's the same again and then everything is eaten. I think it's not that the current developments will be held on the Wall in November.

Because the people who love Trump will continue to live, who will be in hasten, will continue to live. And the question is, well, do you think maybe 10,000 people in the swing states who then say, I'm not for them now, I'm not that secure anymore. And then we have another candidate on the other side, who is very weak, who are both. If he's a strong Democrat on the other side, I think it's different.

But the two are extremely weak candidates who only trust their basis and the basis of both are broken. So I'm not sure that even a school or even a trade route, something on the Wall's result, whether it's something else. You have the feeling that it's actually going to be in this process. Is there still a chance to prevent Trump from going to the next Wall? And what happens if it comes back to a new Wall? What is actually the narrative of America, the fact of America, about Trump?

We say, now what always happens, we don't accept that. It's also a sign how the half of the country, the institutions of democracy, not even more of a tool. In the last two weeks, there was this parade of Trump-muppets, the people in the same area, with the same red cross-border, and then they sat there and said, that it's a kind process that we know when it comes to it. That's all the squares, that's all the squares, that's all the information that they say.

But that's how the public opinion is, it's already the longest, the longest, the most important thing ever. You have no common truth in this country. The stories are like the last instance of America, where it's still in the truth. It's really bad to see how the stories, where it's really about the truth, where things are not able to spin, there's no more spin. And even that doesn't count anymore.

That was a great show, it was very interesting, it was really important to find out what really happened. But it had some consequences, I don't believe it, but I came here, of course. I also heard in 2016, a very Brazilian thing, but I really felt that it didn't really change. It's really changing. There's always a way to show a image, a narrative that is believed to be more and more. I would not be as wrong as I thought it was and look at what it was like.

That was already a matter of the same as the most important things he had to look at. And as the images, the story of the story, he simply said, the images were done. The same happens now with the unwise mass, the day for him to protest. Trump says that the police doesn't care for anyone in the near future, even if thousands of people want to stay there. But other than that, many TV viewers who just think Trump's lies were really marked there every single day.

And the only one he saw there for support was Trump's Republican language lesson. And they only came to the challenge. The investigation of the matter is very Trump has started to protest mass protests in order to get the report. And then two people came to the first day and then two people came to the second day and three people came to the third day and seven people. And then there were only two of them who were around.

They were new. They had an Alpron, with the Alpron in their lives and read the Bible with a megaphone. So there were such people there, so there were no mass protests. And then he said, yes, of course, because everything is so dark, there is no light here. The police also said everything. There were very few streets, people were around, the government was still there. There were a few experiments, but the country was around. The state was on the ground, the state was in the crowd.

And then it was so heavy that there was no return, that even his health in Congress said, you have to come and show the flag. That means if you want to say something to something in a powerful Trump government or as a vice president, that's why we are looking for a joke, you have to go to the right to sit down and then the other parties are out in the park against some things. And then they did everything.

On the first day of the day, two people came to the market Johnson, who sat down there, almost as a coalition behind him, and he didn't have the right to sit down alone. In this cold, cold, cold, right-wing party, he was very cold. It was nice to be so warm that we almost looked like we were all out. So we have another day of court in freezing courthats. It's very cold in there. For the purpose of the day, they don't seem to be able to get the temperature up. It shouldn't be that complicated.

And that's fine. That's just fine. The armed Trump, very alone, at the beginning of the year, was no one from the family. It was as if it were the most important thing that the chief of the party, the hot blanche, had in his opening pillorium said, this is a family man, a man of the family, that loves his wife, his mother, his family, and his children. No one of them has allowed themselves to see him. For a week, no one has allowed the people who had the Trump pay.

His relatives and some helpers and the women with the mobile phones. Then someone called Eric, he got the message with him. And then at the end of June, the evening, the day of the war, the Melania was not there. He had his birthday birthday on his birthday. I want to start by wishing my wife Melania a very happy birthday. It doesn't be with her, but I'm going to court that happy birthday. She said, for her, I'll be going there. The seat of the gift, it was case finishes that was horrible.

Unconstitutional gifts. This must be a vorstellen. There's a little choral out there in his small glitter. And wish his wife a happy birthday from the process, where she went to the hospital with a piano teacher. If this wife was a parent, she would just have a birthday party at home. Then you get the message and how it was recorded. It's like a real estate business. You don't come here to tell me how much it is, because there are so many people who say that it's the strategic strategy.

That you're so overwhelmed by this love of the big test, that you're the big test, as you're with the audience. I always think that it must be something that a certain percentage of people are so nervous that they don't have any more pockets. Like a soap that runs for a long time and somewhere is it a lie? Yes, we've always hoped that this soap was put on. But I think that's what it has. The magic movement is almost like a sect, like a cult.

And you think you have to believe in it, to be there and to get out there, to really be programmed. There's no way that the love of this organization, this destruction, this slaying of the normal, that's the rule for most people there. It's for us for a long time, but I think the 40% of Americans who are behind the Trumps, have already said that they could have killed the 50s or someone else and the people would continue to stand up. And that's really not prophetic, that's the right thing.

What can you do there? How can you get out of the people? How do you get out? And then you had to go to the sect and I was going to be there. That's exactly how Scientology or some other world started saying, if you're dealing with the reality of the animal or with the absurdity of your reality, then you're going to put the whole life of the question in the whole life, the whole life structure. And that's very difficult to get into.

And then there's also such a process, then just so directly connected that it's also in this pseudo reality that's going to be passed and that it's the case that the murderer is for the movement that is from the Democrats, from the fascists who are the Democrats, who are already being punished for the crime. It's also like Putin, the Ukraine fascism that is being used and even fascists who are being arrested there. Total projection, total projection.

Yesterday, we had this scandal, where a verbal video, a barcump video, that Trump has shared also a social thing there, truth social. It was such a video montage. How great it is when Trump was again elected again. The mother is not a member of any other country, no work, no more work, and then they always had such fake slaughterhands. And one slaughterhound was asked by Yulifai Dreich, a commoner. I looked it up and looked at it.

It was really a screenshot of Wikipedia and it was a picture of the first world war. There was someone who had built it with it. The question is, what is the signal and the people who are in the Trumps? The one who always says that it is good to have a good thing about it. And that the neo-Nazis from Charlottes will be very great people. So fascism is, when there are fascist ties, they are one of these two sides in America, but not in the democratic world.

But it will always be projected on the other. If you are lucky, then you say you are lucky. And with that, you are the whole consciousness of the people. It is a classic strategy. Now I understand what you have said. That it is above all a veritable opposite of the data and the opposite of the democratic field of this show, a opposite example. My two sides are of course good. They are all the same. The whole concept of the Trumps was created and it always makes videos.

But of course he has a connection with Gaza and Israel and Palestine completely destroyed and fallen off his half-base. And of course both of them are the youngest. So it is possible to see each other when a girl comes that she is somehow besieged. But is Trump actually a bragg? But he is better than that. He understands that better. The question is of course how is it going now?

So if we come back to the process again, we already talked about that even a shulkspruch says you would not be influenced by the truth. That it is not very optimistic because everyone is consuming their own media blades and the public has been in the oil field for a long time. Malpro and Malcontra Trump. There are three more street processes that can be connected with this process of some development. Can or can find that many later. So the three other processes are first clicked on ice.

They will not be able to get any further. So you have the process in Washington because of the capital. We are waiting for a quarter of the Supreme Courts of the Trump in Moon. Or not to the time. The order comes as a union. That means the process was always the beginning. It will never happen right away. Then we have the process in Florida because of this connection of secret information from the white house, which was once established in Malago.

The process is separated from the existing rights and is still a termite. That is a Trump-rich that has the end-of-the-art of the next year. Or on his wish to the supreme court. That will not be enough for a long time. And then it will be a couple. In Georgia, too, because of manipulation and there we have the scandal with the state world that a party with its chief administrator. That has been a whole month for Zögert. There is also no process termite in view.

And so the government will continue to move on. And the state world and the plan you will will be re-weld again. Or they will have to re-weld again. They have won both of their previous elections. The question is whether they will re-weld again. These are both Democrats. In my opinion, when the jurists sometimes see from the state of different countries. And if the Republican party is set up, then it is also legal. So I don't see that until November something has come to an end.

And I see what's happening with these two businesses. And it's just a thing. They go on all came rooms. The order comes in either next week or next week. And then we have five or five hundred a year. We know what's going on. Then we have two debates from Trump and Biden. And we have the two party days. The later ones will always be re-weld again and until November 8th, for example, the most people will forget this process. But it shows people, or people who are interested in this.

What really goes ahead of the mask? The mask. And how do the business do? How do the politicians do? How do people bring the black people to the black people that I should talk about? How do the other people prefer that I should talk about? But what they want to talk about. These masks have been used for several weeks. In the meantime, they are talking about fake emails, chat messages, and maybe hand-picked.

No matter what Michael Cohen has said as the man who has this black money is the angel of this affair. No matter what he said, we have all still been involved in hand-picked. So there is really a lot of noise and there is no doubt that this is happening. The question is, is the black money relevant? I can still see that I have already prepared a little bit. I have already the role of the black people if they are taken away. But I think maybe there are a few more people who read these reports.

A few more people who know that there is a mask there. That there are the mechanisms to treat today and that they play behind the coolest. I don't know if it's enough, but if a few people are used to it, I would be happy to ask. Yes, unfortunately, our teacher is not going to take the blame. That's the problem. So I'm going to have a few times as a guest in the American TV series, the people who know how we see it. And they were really shocked.

They have our whole story about the Belgian Proyecerat in the studio. And they were shocked how we look in there and how interested we are and how shocked we are. And they say, yes, the Americans see it. And that was really a human being. When we saw it, we would see it. Then we could move it. But in America, most people are interested in how they get it or they already have their own pre-order or they don't know why it's going on. Or they let themselves be from France. What's the difference?

There are so many events where this is a joke. At the beginning of this episode, I have asked the question, how far we are in Europe. In Germany, actually, from the famous visit Trump in the US has created a world. While I discuss this number, I discuss a video from the Poshny-Klub in Söd. You see, often clearly well-situated young people with classic Södklamot dancing. You hear how they sing out and Germany and the German. And luckily. Not at all how serious it was.

How many alcohol or something in the game is there or whether they only have a more than a tasteful search. It shows me personally that these people do not find anything more between these people. And I ask myself, how does it come? It is obvious why these people who often often do not from night grills or because they are socialized or still. That was 8 billion of the dance podcast game.

I thank Mark Pitzkel for the speech, his reports from the right and also for his emotions and his existence of his Wahlheimat did not be affected. I thank Regina for the introduction and the help she has with it. And Sandra Sperber for the Relational accompaniment of this episode. I thank Fiddep Fackler for the post-production of his always-be-freedom and his patience with a little effort. And I thank all people who listen to us to our comments and to our viewers. Stay healthy and healthy.

I will see you next time with your close to the face.

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