Rob Shuter from The Royal Wedding

He does the Wendy Williams Show all the Time, that Today's Show, Good Day New York, the Elvis Durant Show. He's the guy with the awesome English accent. Anyway, he's coming up next on the show, but it's check him out right now. From his new podcast, The Royal Wedding, Megan muchles half brother insists that his children should not should not be invited to the Royal wedding because they

have not seen her since they were children. So the brothers coming forward here, the half brother and really saying it, although everybody wants to go to this wedding, goodness en

as we do. I do that her family, her distance family, I guess should not be invite, So rather before we start talking about the wedding, I'm I'm interested to talk about you and you and you know you've devoted most of your life to celebrity and talking about celebrities and and I just wonder what was the first, you know, like piece of celebrity gossip that you remember seeing and going, God,

this is really hard. It's even deeper than that. I can remember being in the playground when I was six or seven and Craig Smith was caught kissing this girl behind the bike shared and I told everybody at school, and I was the most popular person in the whole class. I learned, I really learned at an early age to be nosy. I'm just nosy person, and I love people telling this stuff. And I don't know why they do, because it's painfully obvious. I'm going to tell everybody else.

But I experienced gossip at a really early age. And I think sometimes people think with the word gossip they think of bad things or or it's a little bit sleazy or a little bit naughty. I don't know. In my family, around the table, gossip and chalk and chatter and laughs about family members and friends was what we did. So I grew up in a household where to gossip was sort of a positive thing. It meant, it meant we cared about each other, It meant that we wanted

to know what everybody was up to. It wasn't a bad thing. It's it's sort of like a different angle, a different way of looking at gossip. I grew up in a world where chatting about people it didn't have to be me, and like gossip doesn't always have to be be me, And so I grew up in a world where we're gossiping and talking was sort of a

good thing to do, you know. And I think that's one of the reasons I think people do trust you is that, you know, you came from a world of being a publicist where you're putting out, you know, kind of what people you want people to think about somebody to gossip to. It's it's it's like you said it as this connotation, but the way you do what you do this naughty but nice kind of It's I like to say that my website, Naughty gossip dot Com is

a pinch. It's not a punch. It's really easy when I think about it, when I go out for dinner with my friends. My really mean friends are so interesting and so fascinating, and I sit there gasping at all the mean things they say. But when I get home, I need to have a shower. Now. My nice friends are awfully nice, but they're a little bit dull, and so if I can be in the middle, if I could be naughty but life, then I think I've sort of hit my sweet spot. And by nature and an optimist,

I like people, I like celebrities. I'm not a mean girl. I'm not I'm not sitting there thinking of mean things to say. I think it's just as interesting, if not more so, if you've got engaged, or you fell in love, or you met somebody really cute. That to me is just as interesting as a breakup or a divorce or something a little bit more more tragic. But you're right. For years and earth, I worked with Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Simpson, Alicia Keys bon Jovi, But the one that I learned

the most from was PDD. Puffy was a client of mine for many, many years, and I say this is love. I worked for Puffy, he paid me. I don't really know what he does like he's deelish, but I don't really. I think he sells t shirts. I sort of think he has a vodka. But what he does do better than anybody else is he makes the world more interesting and more exciting. And he's he's our generations Barnum Like he just puts on a show. He's a he's a

ring master. He's in the middle of the circus in a red coat, waving his arms and even changing his name, his name Sean. You know, I called him Sean, and so I learned from him how to have fun and tell tales and have an exciting sort of life. And so I really thank Puffy from that, and that's how I really got into the business of being a celebrity

gossip columnist. I do think it's people's nature to be to enjoy self righteous indignation, you know, where we love to be like, oh, I'm so indignant, and the Internet has just made it more so, it has it has. But I think I'm a big believer in gentle hate like.

I don't like that. I like gentle hate like and it always makes me laugh, Like this morning, before talking to you, I just did the Wendy william Show, and I work up with this huge sort of cold stare on the side of my map, this massive thing to say. And but the show had to go on, and the people in the makeup room had gentle hate and it made me laugh, like I can laugh at my own flaws and imperfections. I think too. Everybody asked me where

do I get gossip? Where do I find it? And to be honest, my best sources are reporters at The New York Times, are at ABC or at my Heart radio, or I'm just allowed to print stuff that you might only say or my only whisper. And so I think it as journalism. I know that's going to annoy people and sound nothing but the same effort that goes into reporting a story at ABC or NBC. I make that

effort with celebrities. I call sources, I call restaurants, I have backup um and I got over there being in the celebrity world for as long as I was as a publicist, I had access to stuff that celebrity columnists never gets, like. I've been backstage at the Oscars and the Golden Globes. I've been there when j Loo's shoes

didn't fit. I've been there at photo shoots for the cover of Vogue and Vanity Fair, and so I was lucky to have access for all those years to these amazing places, and that's really paid off now with the with the quality in the tyber gossip I get. You know, my very first producing job was for g Gordon Liddy, Like, oh, well, that's the thing. I have a couple of things that I really know I can't say, and so he's dead. He's dead. I'm going to let him out. I mean,

I know some deep ship on this. Do you think the culture has changed a little bit? Maybe the Housewives or the Kardashians have done this. I feel bad now for the old school celebrities like the Julia Roberts and the Cameron Diaces, who we just don't really care about it anymore. Like I want the Real Housewives, I want nine leak snatching a wig. I want the Kardashians, you know,

causing mischief. I think the world has really changed with sort of like reality shows and celebrity shows, and the old days of these really sort of like a list celebrities have sort of gone like I would rather, gosh, this sounds terrible. I get more hits on a sort of interesting story about a Kardashian than I would on a great story about George Clooney. People want to know

about these reality stars amazing. I guess the point too, I was going to ask you, was, I mean, do you still have those stories that you know you can't tell or is it to the point where everybody just knows everything's gonna get told, so there's no point keeping it in. Well, it's interesting as as a as a publicist when when something terrible and to a client, whether it be involved in in illegal drugs or sex or stuff, they that would that would get out. It's going to

get out. So as a publicist, I would give it with my client's permission to a friendly outlet. I'd rather appear in a place where that that that would frame it in a way that would be kind and gentle. Then it breaks in as a real hard news story. So often people call me with stuff that it's going to get out. So rather do it on laudy Gossip than on some other site that's not going to handle it quite as quite as kind as I had. But I do have stories, like you know, my husband's a songwriter.

I've been married to Bruce for years and he wrote a lot of the Barry Man of those songs, like you know Barry came out the closet recently on the cover of People magazine. I've known that for but but for twenty years I didn't say a word like So there's stuff that I know. It's also true whenever I go to a TV show, I do that Today Show and Wendy Williams, anything that happens in a green room

I won't report on. So I've seen celebrities, a real A list superstar celebrity haven't melt down and melt down in the green room over a very very innocent question that was going to be asked for her, And ultimately she walked off the show that that was delicious, and I sat there in the corner absorbing it all. But I never reported it because I was invited into the house. I was invited into that living room, I was invited into that family. And so there's places like that that

I'm I'm careful about. Yeah, And I also I don't I don't act people. There's a couple of gay celebrities now who have not come out, not of the older generation, but you know, in their twenties. I know I know at least one, maybe two singers at the moment who are struggling with it. I'm not going to act them. I know two health stories at the moment, one involving a major British star that I'm not gonna do something. Yeah,

I'm careful about it. I think what makes me for good is that for as much aside Prince I, there's there's there's another fifty percent that I don't do you think that celebrity is now vying for attention from the reality show we call the Trump Presidency. Yeah, well, Trump's sort of like a I don't say a symptom, but Trump's reflection maybe of what's going on in America and around the world. Like Trump is now an example how celebrities really really powerful and knowing people and think we

knowing them. I think a lot of people think they know Donald because of the Celebrity Apprentice. What they don't know is that that was a set set up in Trump Tower on the twentieth floor. That's not his boardroom, it's not his office, it's not his assistant. I guess it's his children. But but like but but it was little Like I said, I've been into his apartment. I went there to interview Milania when she had a jewelry collection.

And you walk in or you get in the elevator, you walk up the elevator and there's these two massive gold doors, um and they open the doors, and the first floor of the apartment it's a set. There's light in the ceiling like on a on a movie set. And they also have a fountain in the living room, this big fountain. And when I left, I heard them flick the switch that the fountory went off. So it's a it's all like the whole thing is set up

for television. TV is really really powerful, whatever your politics are. You know, there's no doubt that he's, you know, the star who knows how to be. He knows how to make things about himself. And there's a gossip columnists, you know, that's that's delicious. I think that for yours. There's been stories about Donald's when he was a celebrity league in stuff to the press and the papers, and he knows how to He knows all the columnists, he knows them

all by name. He knows phone numbers and our emails, like Donald Donald knows how to how to work the media. Now I like to check out the rags all over, so I check out the British rags, and he knows a lot of coverage on the Trump presidency and and and then on the flip side, you know, to kind of uh, you know, he's into this Royal wedding podcast. You know, Americans are obsessed with English everything. I was I was thinking about this this weekend. I was watching Victoria.

I was reading about the Napoleonic Wars from the perspective of an English captain. And you know, Eddie Izard had this line where he goes, well, I'm from England, That's where the history comes from. And it's true, we are obsessed with English everything. That is. I don't know. I do know that I've benefited from it. I know that here now. Honestly, I'm really not that smart and I'm not very interesting, but having this accents makes me sound

like Mary Poppins. I can always murder who in Britain people would have told me to shut up years ago. If you went to London, you would be a sensation with your adorable accents. It's just I don't know. Being a Britain in New York in America has certainly helped me. I think that I think that we have to really credit the Royal Family for this. It's it's the first reality family of all time, and they're awfully good at

have package in it and and given a storylines. And so maybe you know, there is they hate me for saying that they're the original Kardashians, like the Royal Family just have have sort of really set up a way to be really digen It's hardly interested in sixty million people are in America over three million. It's always the one. It's a one story. And so what the Brits have done with the Royal family is tell the story of a nation through five or six characters. It's like a

soap opera. And so now that Megan has married into that family, we have another character. And so I think, I think part partly that's why people are so obsessed with Britain. And there was a time many many years ago when Britain, you know, sort of ran the world.

So I think we all somehow have a linkage back to the Motherland or you know, I mean, we all have a relative or a distance relative, or a very distant relative that might have been British at some point my friend's joke, there's so many Brits now in New York. It's like we're getting the colony back. Like I feel like I should wear a red coat to walk around, Like I feel like I would say that America, but that they're They're awfully kind, and I think America's in America.

Ricans in London are really welcome if you ever travel to Britain as an American. The Britas love Americans. We love American TV, we love American films, we love American food in the same way that there's some difference towards Britain in in America. In Britain, we love the Americans. I'm now, I now want to either start a podcast or ready book called the Plantagenets the Original Kardashians. They really really well. I die with dit An Abbey and

all these other shows that are so successful. Oh please, I could be nothing but great for my career. I hope more more more royals get married, and then after the way that I'm sure I'll have a podcast on the babies, and then hopefully not, but maybe there'll be a divorce podcast. Like you never it, let's talk about that. So you know, I'm a I'm a podcast nerd. I left morning shows ten years ago to get into starting an app called Stitcher and been in podcasting ever since.

And now back with I Heart and I was when they got the when we got I got email about your podcast. I was like, Ah, this is the kind of podcast that I want to see more of because I think that the world podcasting evolves and we're finding you know that it's going from being these NPR podcasts. He's really well produced and what you're wonderful to, you know, podcast more than the everyday person wants to. Like you say about the scrappy podcast, I'm not saying that, I'm

saying that. I'm saying that it's more mainstream. I think to hear your flaws. They want to hear everything they want. They want now to to hear you pick your notes. They want to hear you missproducial words. I think people listen to podcasts and all media now as if we're their friends, and I'd love to be. It's it's fun to communicate in a way that's really authentic, that you don't have to be too fancy, you don't have to

pretend to be Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer anymore. I'm friends with Holder, who's just been um Announswers a co anchor of the Today Show, What hold of successes? Apart from the fact that she's brilliants, so she's authentic, that really is who she is. So when you see her on camera on the morning show or you go for dinner with her, that's that's hold up. And I think that people mag and smellophony. And that's what's so delicious about the Successful podcast is that I think they really

capture the truth. You know, you had I read a quote from you. It said and you said, the amount of effort in time people have spend trying to cover something up, even their own personalities, is ridiculous. Just find the truth, and yeah I did. It's it's it's easy to talk in soundbites on TV for two or three minutes, but to see I was terrified when I was offered this job to do this podcast. I was terrified of

sitting there for half an hour. So twenty is half an hour and rattling on and on and on, and like the accent is good for five minutes, but come on, it's just Ania and so I just it was like, what am I gonna say. And then once I got past myself and just started to sit there and enjoy it, I was like, I can go to a bar tonight with a friend or or a new a new friend, And like I said, there were hours and talk. So why am I worries about half an hour? I think

that's the way you should go into this. Like it's I pretend I'm sitting there. Maybe I don't put them, but with a glass of wide I sit there and I talk and talk and I find all the great news of the week and all the breaking stuff out of London. And then I think what we've done too is we found some really interesting guests to come on

and tell us the real dish at this. This amazing royal expert Nicki Gostin Australian, she came on and she went there like she talked about sex before marriage, had Harry and Megan dune the deed, which in the Royal family is quite shocking. You're not really meant to do it. But Nikki was hilarious and it was a really really fun episode. This week's episode, there was a rumor that the Cake Boss Buddy the Cake Boss, was going to make the Royal cake. So we slept out to his studio.

We went out to the bakery and we walked. Did we were invited, we did just like completely sort of darted, but we will did. He was in the kitchen and he came and talked with us about the royal cake and he didn't deny it, but he didn't confirm it. But then he told us about if he did get to do the cake, what he would do and how he would get it there. Could you FedEx the cake to London or does he have to go and bake it that. I think people are really interesting in life,

not just some podcast listeners. Really listen to this, because in life, if you think somebody is a bit dull or they don't talk very much, is because you haven't found the subject that they want to talk about. And everybody wants to talk, even quiet people, when you find the subject, and nine times out of ten, it's what they do for a living. People love to talk about what they do for a living. You could follow anybody around with a with a camera and make a documentary.

I think I think he could. There's a story within everybody. And and when I first you know, you know, looking at this podcast like how they can do a podcast about this every week and you know, a gossip and what's going to happen And it comes down though to to the host and and this is where your skill as a true interviewer comes out and making it a conversation and not just you know, you know, you know, like you said, sound by TV stuff, and the conversations

you have on this podcast are fascinating. People talk to me, I'm shocked me. That's my questions that I think I get away with it because the accident. I asked them, if you don't you do your personalities, why you get away with it? You just said it. The accent gets sold. Although I did hear when you said it's twenty minutes

and you're done with my accents. I did say when you said Sean from when you're talking about well, if everybody said it the way you said, if you'd be very happy to be called Sean all the time as you're recorded for every shot out there. But if you write, if you talk to people and ask them questions, and then if you're smart enough to just shut up and let them talk, they will tell you everything. They really

will tell you everything. In my PR days, we used to always know who you were by finding out who you hate it And I think that's true in real life. Who do you hate and that's who you are, so you know if Bonto hates Bruce Springsteen, did he hate jay Z, Jaylo and Mariah? But I think it's really interesting in life if you figure out who people like and who they hate. It's such a reflection. So I use a lot of my PR tricks on people. I try to shut up and let them talk. Everybody has

a story. I try to ask them cheeky questions and I asked, I think the stuff we want to know, like I mean, I do want to know about the royals and sex. I do want to know like if Kate and Mega Markle are friendly of not and not so friendly. I do want to know what it's like to leave your country, which she did. She lost, left her friends and her family, went to a palace, which can be quite a lonely place. There's not there's not a lot of people in that palace to be that

friendly to you. And now I love the little details a royal source of man in Britain come with. The big test was when she met the Queen if the core gives liked Mega, and so if Mega the Court of the Dogs, and I was like, my god, that is so true. And I've had friends who my dogs don't like and I'm not friends at the mony. The dog doesn't like you, there's something really wrong with you exactly. So I think it's applying all those things from our

lives to theirs. That makes hopefully half an hour of interesting chatter that people can can sign up to in the sun lots of gossip. Is there anything shocking that's coming up on the podcast that think? Yeah? I mean, I mean you and I are you know, we're just talking. There's some really light food questions about protocol, what what what? What she will wear? You know, she's divorced, she's a divorcing so will she wear white? Probably the off white

who's going to perform at the wedding. He's really good friends with Ed Sheering. Will he be there? Elton John has already taken a couple of days off his schedule. We noticed that just so happened to coincide with the wedding. What will happen after the wedding? What's going to be her role? She's she an amazing human being and she's TV ready because she's been on televisions for so many years that maybe her slickness is a little annoying to some of the Brits. Will they at the minute they

love her, but it's it's it's the Megan miracle. At the moment, she's everywhere. How must that be affecting Kate Middleton, who's the star of that family. Kate's are bossy boots and so Kate runs that royal family. The Queen's favorite is William. So if William likes you, everything is fine. So I think just watching this this old traditional family try really hard to adapt and make missteps. It's delicious to watch them. Man, it's so nice that they're trying

so hard. So there's tons of stuff and every day and there's another question like royal men, this get this. Royal men traditionally don't wear a wedding ring. Harry has said he will. I think that's fascinating, little bit. William doesn't wear a wedding ring. His dad doesn't wear a wedding Prince Charles, his grand Prince Philip doesn't wear a wedding ring. So I think this interesting stories about that too, and hand this this old fashioned, creaky institution is trying

so hard to be hip and cool. What will be the first song they danced her at the wedding? Well, the queen dance um. So each week we're trying to dig into these questions. Today we have a royal etiquette expert coming on. Did you know when the queen finishes her dinner, when you eat with her, you have to stop. So if you're still hungry, or if she's not hungry, you better eat quick because the minute the Queen puts her folk dad didn is over Halter that. I just

love these details. If she doesn't want dessert, that the table does not get dessert. Do you imagine? You know? It's funny because I watched you know, a lot of the history stuff and I see that with like Victoria, But I didn't think they still did that. If they still do it, they still absolutely do you know? In Victoria there's a lot of them the TV show on PBS, there's a lot of a storyline about her husband, Albert

and how he felt left out. Historically in the royal family, if you're a king and you marry someone, she becomes the queen. If you're a woman, if you're the queen and you marry someone he's not the king. Prince Philip is not the king, and so are all these rules that are so interested what will Megan's role be? She

doesn't really have a role. The second son or the second child was always thought of as a spare in case anything went wrong with the air and the stair, and so you know, historically it's only ever happened once when the king abdicated because of another American, Waly Simpson. So, now, what has Harry's life going to be with Megan that I'm already hearing that. You know, they're they're thinking of

having a house here in America. She's American? Like will they have a flat in New York that would be delicious? Or l a or or should where will they live? And so there's tons of questions that are not answered, and so each week we try to find out what those answers are, and more importantly, we'll all the listeners contact to us, like what are your questions? Can she cross her legs? Can she curtsy? All that stuff that we find so charming on Dad's and happy in Victoria.

We're going to find the answers to each week, all right, speaking of questions, I'd like to end with my three killer questions, so I've got them for you. The first question I ask is if you could listen to a podcast featuring anyone in history, whose podcast would you like to listen to much A really, really good one. I think it would be Queen Victoria because I'm watching the Queen Victoria serious at the moment. I'm obsessed. I think it would be Queen Victoria, although it might be more

interesting to talk to Queen Elizabeth's corgy. Corky has seen it all. Dogs have seen it. Dogs have seen it all. That's a good question. Next one, okay, the next one is if you were going to build a celebrity Big Brother House right now, who would you like to see in it? Oh? God, I'd have to have a Christianna. I'd have to have Christianna in there. I would probably like Matt Lower in that little country versual but at

one and find out what's going on there. And then I love myself some Liza Minelli, just old school, fabulous sequence and show business. A share or a a Liza. I would imagine them in the shower the show would have come out with with Liza, I saw I saw. So Lisa did this reality show and she taped it in her apartment and she was married to David guests at the time, and somebody I know, a camera guy, had like two minutes of footage that we've watched endlessly on

Loop and sat in his room and drank wine. It's the best two minutes of TV I'd ever seen. Yes, I'd have a lie, definitely, Liza would be in the house. And what's the last podcast that you've benched that I've listened to? Yeah? That you yeah? That? Or that you listen one? There's got Elviston ran on Z one hundred. There's a lady on his show called Bethanie Watson and

her and two girls have a podcast. It's three of them, and I love it because I'm a guy and it's like listening to a lee and the most I mean and the nicest possible way that the questions they they ask and the things they say have me absolutely howling. And even as a gay man, I love how how different our minds work and our experience as a life is. And so the last what I listened to is Bethanie Watson's podcast on My Heart Now, and it's trific. It's

really fun. Well, I hope the next time that someone asked you that question, the answer is Access podcast with Maddie. Maddie, I'm gonna listen to it right. Thank you for having the spending time with me. Bye. That was funny. That was He's great. I really enjoyed talking to him. You

guys had a great rapport. I think guys like that are so used to not getting to talk about themselves because they're talking about celebrities all the time and everything, and and when you're in that kind of job, it's it's kind of like, hey, monkey boy, perform, you know, come on, talk about this one thing and then go um where. He's an interesting guy, Like I didn't even get into about half of the things I wanted to get into with him because I just I just find

him to be a solid human being. I've read some good articles with him, and just he's he's he's just a good dude. I really liked him, So I hope he had a good time. I hope you like me. As you can tell, I don't have a voice. I'm a little sick. You got me sick? Thank you? No, No, it's the illness. It's going around the office. It's a plague. Um we call it. It's the I Heart Digital plague. Everybody's had it. Uh, we're all in quarantine. It's bad. It's bad, but we soldier on into our show. So see,

I want you to talk a lot. Tell me about some podcasts that I need to be listening to. All right, So these are all based around pop culture culture podcast and the first is The Cooler with Emmanuel Jamdra and Carly It's part of San Francisco's NPR station k q e D. And they're young, they're fun. They just hit on anything that's going on recent to what's going on in the world, and funny and cute and yeah, I love this show. Let's let's hear a little taste of it.

Now that I am a parent, I have to deal with this Valentine thing. Last year in kindergarten, I had decided what to do because you can't just go hand and candy out Willy Newly anymore. People have allergies. Some people it's like Halloween again, gluten free exactly. I'm just like, there are guidelines. It's like my childhood Celiac. No offense anyone with elect disease I hear it's bad. Now Jamdra has reached out. I think they're coming on the show hopefully.

Let's let's get on there. I'm looking forward to having them on and they'll be in studio and we'll do that on a Facebook Clive too when they're in studio and access podcast. Yeah, we should have done today, but I wasn't feeling good. I don't feel like doing it. But we'll do more of that. We've got some cool cameras we built into the studios, and U and Z is the keeper of all of that. I am the gatekeeper. Yeah, you're you're. I don't think people know what a video

queen you are. You work for the San Francisco Giants. I did The Warrior, the Warriors, Stanford on and on. Not the A's though, which are really the good ball team in the Bay Area anyway. So our next podcast is called The Daily and they're by the New York Times and it's hosted by Michael Barbaro. And like The Cooler, it really dives into a certain topic that's going on right in the moment. So sometimes politics right now, mostly about the Olympics, and I'll pick one little thing and

explain it in twenty five minutes. This is for you, one of the hottest podcasts out right now right, So I start my day with it, you know, just to get a quick bit of news. Yeah, if you want to sound like you know what you're talking about with podcasts, exactly started the daily and they'd be like, so did you hear on the Daily today? And then people with automatically think you're smart. Let's hear a little taste this weekend.

At the opening ceremonies of the two thousand and eighteen Winter Olympics, one hundred and sixty nine plainly dressed athletes arched out in drab gray coats and blue jeans, competing not for a country but under the name Olympic athlete from Russia. What Russia did in the last Winter Olympics to earn them that punishing I know. Two Dip Queens America America. The two Dip Queens TV thing was like listen, I'm like, I'll go back to the podcast. Well, here's

the thing. I'm against this in general because I'm a fan of audio and this American life couldn't pull it off. This American Life tried to do a TV show and they admit it fully that it didn't work because this is an audio medium. It just doesn't have Let you go on Facebook live for a quick minute. Then I feel like that works here and there. But yeah, a whole special or TV shows, it's just not for me. Not my thing. Not my thing. I'm an audio guy.

But hey, you're gonna make a buck. Make a buck, and if you'd like to turn this into a television show, we absolutely love to do it. Thank you very much. I love talking with his voice. All right, what's kind next? So my last one is a sports slash art slash life one and it's called Open Run. I don't know this one. So it's by the Uninterrupted Network, which is Lebron James's network. And come on, Lebron James not a fan fan, I don't know, but I love you wor

the finals? Once? How is how's Lebron when you're you're like working, you're down on the court, locked in. You know, he's focused. He's not rude to anybody, none of the players are. Yeah, he's not flirting or anything. No, he I mean Lebron. Once he's on the court, he's on the court. He's there to play the game. But you've had you've had some players flirt with you. I will not say you have had some with you. By Jesse Williams. Still the Lady. This is by Jesse Williams. Were talking

about open red, Go ahead. Okay, so Jesse Williams, he's on Gray's Anatomy and Stefan Stephen, Mark Calacus, mar Lacus. Was it Draymond Green? Did my lips are sealed? It was Clay Thompson. He's quiet, but I bet he first, as he's super sweet, but it was not him. Um, yeah, it's great. They talked about sports. Sometimes they have Lebron on the show. They do live shows with like Real Union to talk a lot about the Warriors too, because you know that's cool. We are dope. Let's check it out.

Let me spin you a little tale of childhood. Michael Jordan ruined my fifteenth birthday because, uh, I went to the Knicks Bulls game where he dropped the double double Nickel. I love, I love Lebron. I mean you can't, as if you're a fan, you have to. You have to appreciate what who he is and what he does, and but I can still just you know, hate on him for being Yeah, because he's a baby, and he cries, and he gets every call he wants, and he travels and and but he's he's oh my god, oh don't

get me starting on that anyway. Go Warriors dubbed Nation Forever. Alright, good job, thank you. I appreciated those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for listening to Access podcast everybody. The show was produced by z and we have had our engineering done by David Williams and Horse Wong and Red Reads a big, big help with us in the studio in fact, and Anna, let's mention Anna Anna, who's an engineer here who put in the video system which you'll be seeing on all

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