You're listening to episode 753 of A Very Spatial Podcast, January Podcast. I'm Jesse. I'm Sue. I'm Barb. And this is Frank. And this week we're going to be talking about something. But first, some news. First up in the news some good news for remote sensing. The Sentinel. 2C, so that's the third satellite in the Sentinel 2 series of the Copernicus broader mission has been commissioned. So it launched back in September.
And of course, after satellites launch, they have to go through a series of tests, calibrations for the instruments and all those kinds of things. So that is now complete. In fact, I think there's a sample data set already available. So the Sentinel series, so you had Sentinel 2 A, which launched back in 2015, I think it was, Sentinel 2B a couple years later. These are satellites that give us information for essentially land use environmental monitorings.
So I think the Sentinel 2 have 13 spectral bands, so those are the bands wavelengths of light and four of those are at 10 meters they have a couple other bands that do some other things, but essentially that's the visible and near infrared for those of us that work in remote sensing area, but this is another good resource in the Sentinel 2 series, which are really valuable. So, good news that it's online and giving us data. 2C is up that allows 2A to become kind of a, a backup, if you will.
So it should be flipping over to B and C being the primary two. Yeah, cause you think about it, 2015, so that's 10 years, 10 years this year. Also in imagery like news, those of you who are drone operators, SUAS operators in North Carolina, have less restrictions.
So if you were Operating for commercial or government use in North Carolina up until December 1st You were required to have a North Carolina license So you had to pass North Carolina test, which was an online test very straightforward It covered the same things that the part 107 test covered but with just a little bit of extra information about some of the privacy and data Limitations that were specific to North Carolina. Basically, you couldn't use thermal for certain uses.
That was basically it Basically, the other question, but now as of December 1st, 2024, that is no longer required. And so if you are doing commercial government flights, you just have to have the part 107. That's pretty cool. But also, you know, considering the do you see the pictures of the firefighting plane in California that got hit by a drone by private drone? I did. Yeah. Yeah. And so things like that.
Yeah. It's it's always gonna be that push and pull right between, you know, freedom to allow people to do things without too much oversight. But at the same time, safety, security. Now, admittedly, that would fall under the whole, you know, national regulation. Of things, but still, you know, that news is coming out this week also makes you go, ah, but I get why you don't, you know, let people do whatever they're going to do. Yeah, no, it's, it's part of 107.
And even the I just forgot the other name, the acronym for the name that private flyers can do that aren't doing it for commercial, but everybody has to pass the test. if you're flying anything over 250 grams. And it's part of both of those tests that if there is manned aircraft in the area, you are not flying it. to fly. Mm hmm. So everybody should know that. And there's emergency services things that are part of part 107 as well.
Other things, we can just go through this, but it's, you know, you can talk about the smoke essentially being the same as clouds and you're supposed to be X distance from any cloud whenever you're flying. And so, yes, that, that would fall into that. But in North Carolina. So this opens up flight for to a little bit again, it wasn't a large hurdle to get over by any means if you were flying in North Carolina before, so. Was there a cost associated with taking the test in North Carolina?
Do you know? No. It was free. So the U. S. Navy surface fleet? No. Is training on GPS alternatives in case of a GPS denial situation? They are saying that anyone who is on the ocean should be training to operate without GPS. And it feels to me like it was only last year we were talking about a lot of the different fleets getting rid of paper maps and plotters.
But because of the increasing probability of not having GPS for navigation they are training in ways to adapt and they feel that everyone should be aware of the history of navigation and the ways that different ways that, you know, Have been used for navigation one thing not in this article, but Recent in December and such is a push for conversations about quantum navigation so That's one of the one of the many different technologies besides the replacement Elorian
and others that are already being put into place A portion of the u. s. Fleet I think is this or beginning this month or beginning of December. We're starting to test You quantum navigation technologies as well. So we are looking at other technologies for when GPS is jammed, but yeah, just being able to read a map is the important part. Yeah. I mean, cause honestly, for anything, we've talked about this for many, many times on the podcast.
You just cannot guarantee that that service will be there. And really, for navigation purposes on the oceans, which is the primary concern of the Navy there's a lot of techniques that are very old and very effective. Getting from point A to point B. So, you know, we've come to rely upon the high accuracy.
And it's certainly, if you're doing something like missile launches, you need that, but just getting to where you're going, there's, there's other ways you can do it, and it's always best to have a backup to a backup to a backup. Continue with the news. Some kind of an exciting milestone. Landsat has added their 12, 12 millionth and probably more just in the last couple of days, 12 millionth image to their collection Collection two level one archives.
So if you don't know too much about Landsat, they're basically, they are, you know, kind of regularly overhauling things, stuff like that. So collection two is the most recent kind of grouping of stuff. And so 12 million images, though, and the 12 millionth image was one of the southern part of the United States, kind of desert landscape. I think it includes the Colorado River and some other stuff.
But I wanted to just put it in the news because I think this is just, Again, an amazing achievement, amazing resource of decades of you know, data collection for science. And the things that have been done with Landsat images have just been so amazing in understanding the world. So I just think it's kind of a, a really cool little milestone milestone that happened this past week. So I think it was January 13th, 14th, they put the press release out.
So anyway, if you haven't yet and you potentially have remote sensing, these definitely check out Landsat. If you're a veteran Landsat user the archive just keeps growing. Of course, now Collection 2 includes Landsat 1 to 9, and of course, Landsat Next is in the planning, and hopefully that process goes smoothly to get that one launched in the near future. So yeah, just amazing. I'm always just In awe of the success of the Landsat mission.
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be 2029, 2020, or sorry, 2029 or 2030 for the next launch, I think is the schedule. Which, oh my god, it sounded like five years away. It is. Which, you know, for the census people, It's only five years away, but that's a separate issue. The thing I think is interesting about this is this was in a news section they have on the Eris data center called image of the week, 12 millionth image. You could do image of the day guys. I'm just saying.
I was going to say something that I've always appreciated. That's small, but I, I've actually talked about it in classes when we look at some of the imagery that comes out is the written text that they'll use to describe what's in it is so well written and just so tight and descriptive and we know in geospatial and geography, that's a skill that we learn. It's something you have to do, but I don't think enough people outside that realize how much it takes to come up with those descriptions.
And they're just really beautiful. And I mean, it's an example of just the end to end quality and, and just dedication that goes into, to creating this amazing data set of our changing earth, really. And you know, kind of maybe a little corny, but I just, I'm just amazed always by it. So 12 million images, eight satellites, because of course we didn't have Landsat 6 52 and a half years ish, roughly. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, pour one out for poor 6 , landed up in the Pacific Ocean.
You know what I'm thinking, if someone has a birthday party, and you know, you could give them a Landsat image from the day they were born. Basically, if you were born after July 23rd, 1972, there's an image for the day you were born. Somewhere around, because it's, it's 21 day revisit? Well, it may not be where you were, but there is an image. Yes, there's an image for every day. Whether there's clouds or not. Yeah. Like I said, there is an image for the day you were born, I'm sorry, yeah.
Not I was going to get the best one, but Maybe that's it, a random image for the day you were born. Yeah, there's probably a website that does that. And that's it for the news. So in watching CES this year, so if you're not, if you're not familiar with that, it's a consumer electronics show.
I got to thinking on the latest round of something we've talked about multiple times over the podcast over the years and sometimes it was in our Prognostications right our hopes and dreams for the future that this area of geospatial technology and and just tech in general would make that leap into the thing everyone wants and that is sort of the the vr ar thing, right?
So we've talked about it tons of times, but here's Here's kind of why I wanted to revisit it again is we started watching a video that actually predated CES for Android XR, so if you're not familiar, you can check that, but anyway, this new operating system, so Google's gonna get, try to get into space again, or back into the space, or become more prominent, and it just made me wanna, you know, revisit it with all of us and just say, you know, you know, Where do you think we're at with that?
Have you given up on it? Are you trying more things in the XR, VR, AR space? Should we still dream of it? Because of course, a core part of, of what was demonstrated in Android XR is the idea of using it for navigation, so deploying it on devices where you can, you know, Integrate with Google Maps and see immersive environments and historic places, all that kind of thing. So, things that we've talked about with previous iterations. And once again, the dream is there, maybe.
Rekindled a little bit, which is why I wanted to chat just for a few minutes today. But what do you guys think? Have you given up on it? Have you seen some things that maybe say, Hey, I might give it a try or, or you know, what are you thinking? I'm definitely more on the given up side.
I kind of feel like this is a little bit like I was trying to have a good analogy and I'm, I'm, I'm a bit failing here, but a little bit like you know, LIDAR on phones, I think it's going to be one of those things that is evolves and happens and it's just sort of like, pardon, pardon the phrase, but augments the overall experience and not really a thing in its own right. I just feel like it's kind of.
Something it's, it's a infrastructure, infrastructural technology that has to underpin something else to have any real utility. Hey, now, hey, now, don't dream it's over. Hey, now, hey, now, when the world comes in, they come, they come, but they won't. Build walls between us because we'll have XR and VR where we can actually interact between them, right?
This is where we're building to maybe I mean, we're still doing the bits and pieces to the other thing I thought is is I'm breaking down and getting into the the meta frames world, which I try I tried to use Amazon and yes wearables, I think yes wearable, right? So I think that these are all like converging again Because, as things we've talked about, right, is when one piece makes a leap, there's another piece that's just holding it back, right, just like an anchor.
Because I remember when I got it, I was super excited about the HoloLens. So not even VR headsets, some of which were cool things, but the HoloLens. But the problem is that sucker weights so much, it literally would weigh your head down, like in relative terms. Right. And also it was just, you know, massive because they were putting a computer on the back of your head. Right. And, and, and again, they, they did improvement.
So it's not like a, just necessarily slam on that, but it's just not something. That when you add it to the cost that it's just ever gonna have broad adoption and it didn't right it didn't it was it Was kind of a niche thing, but it was really amazing like with the potential it just it just didn't take the next step And so we can tie in The leap, no not leap, magic leap? No, is it magic leap? I don't know. There's one that's leap motion and there's magic leap.
Yeah It's one of those it changes names like four times. So what have it heck that thing ended up as? Yeah. What the, the MetaQuest pro or whatever it was called for the 1, 500 one the Apple vision pro all of these. Are meant to be mixed reality devices, and they've, they've had promise, but they haven't paid out yet. But if we begin talking about the broader idea of wearables it begins to change a little bit, right? That we're not just focusing on that visual aspect, that graphicacy alone.
But we begin to bring in the audio, we can use the querying capabilities. These are things that we're already using on our phone fairly regularly, so. If we're moving those to other devices, whether they be watch or glasses or whatnot you know, it begins to change that, that dynamic of what this is moving towards. That it's not just mixed reality as a visual aspect, but a multi sensory aspect. Oh, I was just listening cause I, I agree with Jesse though.
I think, and I also agree with everyone else in that I think it's around, you know, I use it. Because I stumble on it when there's something else that I'm going to try or I still use the oculus for fun and for other things because there's so much out there to do on it. But that there's always something that holds it back. But each time we start getting these convergences, we're getting closer and closer.
So I think this is, you know, this might not be the big push, but this is going to be a significant one. In how people are using it, you know, you know reminds me of it reminds me like when you see the trailer for a video game You know, like oh, this is amazing. And when's it out? Oh four years from now. Oh, shut up Call me when you're like 60 days from release until then just leave me alone I don't need to see little teasers or whatever.
That's what I kind of feel like a lot of this stuff is at It's the And in fairness to the technology and is that this is always going to be an iterative we tried this and okay, see how this piece didn't work. Let's try to work on that and we'll try it again. Oh, yeah, but now we forgot about this piece, you know, that's going to happen, but I don't know if it's a mark of my age or what, but I kind of like when you've got this thing is they're too half baked.
They need to be a little more fully baked before they're released. Well, a question I was, I was just thinking too, to ask. And so, cause again, as I, as I was watching a few of these things and also, by the way, in a weird way, my thoughts started swirling to me. We were watching a TV show where the TV host was like being shown kind of immersed in historical scenes and kind of like the person was walking through them.
And so on a thought, you know, These are the types of things like what it made me think what really is the dream right because we have the two different approaches which you've talked about, you know, multiple times over the years right one approaches the V the true VR approach right where you're somewhat stationary you might move it's the, you know, ready player one oasis kind of idea right that kind of thing.
And you've got a headset or some kind of interface, but you're largely stationary and the world essentially is coming out from your device and you're sort of experiencing things, but you're not navigating the real world. And of course, with the X, with the XRAR mixed reality, whatever you call them the sort of that end of it it is about. Having the interface available to you, but you're still situated in the real world more more so right?
And so there are two different ways to kind of think of it they're and they're probably more but these are two main ways I think of it And then the question for me has been what then is the dream for me? Like is it part of both is it all one or the other like at what point will I stop being maybe discouraged? You know, like frank, you know, like you're saying in what point will I I say?
Yep, that's one thing i'm going to try and i'm wondering which Paradigm it will be so I don't know if you guys have kind of thought about that if there's one way you think You know, we'll go or both will equally flourish the thing about, of course, mixed reality is that it provides both because you have that occlusion capability, but you also have the the pass through capability. So, you know, with things like Microsoft's HoloLens.
You could use it as an augmented reality device, but you could also do virtual reality activities in it as well if you you know, whenever it completely filled your, your frame of, of view. So it's, it's not necessarily one or the other. I don't think I was thinking it's going to be mixed reality because again, it brings in both, but I think it's going to be more driven by the market and how it's going to go is going to depend on which market coalesces it first.
And I'm thinking that's going to be between entertainment and business. And business is, you know, things like manufacturing and places like that. And I could imagine the uses in both. In fact, I could be like, I want the use of manufacturing you know, even for safety and efficiency. But I could also see it being driven by entertainment because I know that's where my money is going. But it's not going to be the bulk of the money worldwide.
For me, so I was kind of looking at, you know, sort of best of lists for CES. And one that caught my eye is the Lumos Lumos Lumos, I think AI glasses. And they sound a little bit like a little bit like the glasses that Jesse has now, but they're supposed to be coming out in the first quarter and they are they've got a 16 megapixel camera and who cares. 32 gigabytes of storage. I don't care open ear. Speakers don't care easy about adaptability for your Fit and lens choices.
Okay, that's important smarts are handled by chat gpt and the glasses connect over wi fi or To your phone via bluetooth. Okay now actually I care a little bit the rest of that stuff is cool It's whatever but the interesting thing to me is not going to be ar and vr You As a paradigm, but as a tool set for what I really want a pair of smart glasses for, which is a, an assistant that's with me effectively 24 seven. Cause I can't see without my glasses.
So second, I get up in the morning, I put my glasses on and I don't take them off until either I take a shower or, you know, I go to bed. So for me, it's interesting to be able to say, Hey, I'm going to You know chat gpt or siri or whoever that i've got connected my ai Can you what can you tell me about this thing? And if it were to show me using augmented reality or virtual reality, that would be astounding, right? That would be like life changing.
That would be the paradigm that I would want Which is I need i'm trying to process a thought and I need information Can you show me what the sistine chapel looks like? Can you you know demonstrate a thing real quick? That would be You Amazing. But again, the paradigm is there to support what I really want, which is the AI virtual assistant thing. So that would be the critical piece for me. So somewhat in the, the way it's deployed, right?
So in the glass, so, cause this is, this is kind of what I'm thinking too. So there's some other devices that I've been looking at over the last six months, just because I'm being bombarded by them, but even realities is a company that has a set of glasses that are smart glasses that actually has it. Text display that it gets projected onto the inside screen. It's kind of interesting because they're trying to solve this, right?
Is if you have the other things like seeing the Sistine Chapel, right? Like which was in the Android XR, or maybe it was a place in Florence, but anyway, is that you must have a way to have the display, but when we have the display, so, so to have the two things, right, to have the AI assistant, those things, which can be audio, but to have the display.
We're stumbling with the device because you have to somehow block out a little bit of light potentially, but maybe not all the time because otherwise you won't take it with you. So over the last few years, I've tried like the glasses that create like a movie screen kind of style or monitor style, but they had to be tethered because they have to be powered, but they block out lights. You can't really walk around with them or there, you know, you got to carry extra things.
That's the problem with the VR things. But what you're talking about, Frank, I think is kind of maybe. For quite a few people like the dream and I would go that it, but if somehow the device can still be lightweight, like glasses, but provide this extra stuff, I think that's the hump. And I'm starting to see some things that suggest that we could get over that hump. Well, so two things.
One, I don't think that the Lumos has projection it's, it's keeping track of your light, but it's not projection. No, no, it doesn't either. Even realities is doing that. And they're probably the one that. I've seen do it the best, and it's a monochrome image that you're seeing in front of you.
There's suggestions that the meta Ray Bans, Ray Ban metas, are potentially gonna have that this year, but again, it's not been announced, but because of the The announcement of Orion their, you know, development classes that they're not actually going to sell that Meta is doing where they have waveform technology in the lenses. So you're seeing things and hearing things. And then with Snapchat, who you can actually buy their developer glasses.
That are kind of looking at the same thing, where they're, again, pushing out imagery into your, your glasses. Between those three, the one that's actually viable, and the two that are more development packages we are seeing this move forward.
This was the idea that, What the original apple glasses were going to be and we still haven't seen that That's why I think they pushed to create the apple vision pro just so they could have something out there even though it wasn't what everybody was expecting from an actual place pair of glasses, but we are At that capability now, it's just a question of what it's going to cost. Cause even realities is 700.
I think six, I think it starts at six, but, and, and it's, you know, a company in, I think it's Denmark. So, I mean, it's a little bit difficult to get, but you can. And then you can get the, what are Amazon's called again? NECA glasses. There we go. Frames. I think, yeah. Frames. So you can get those for 250, whatever. Same thing with the Meta. Ray Ban metas, which are roughly 250 if you don't currently those are no display.
There's well, actually this is 300 And both of those are no display, but they give you that capability to talk to something now with the meta It's talking to llama their AI with the echo frames. It is not yet a I but it is still Alexa, it's Alexa. So Yeah, you're still able to ask questions. It's just not the same source. So those are some of the technologies that we're seeing right now that's beyond the VR portion of it.
And of course, with the announcement of Android XR, the announcement that they're that Google's working with Samsung and others as well to create these visual glass styles. Means that we're probably going to see something in that vein, maybe by the end of the year, but definitely by 2026, I think so. So in my Star Wars steampunk dreams speaking about if we can think big something I saw at CS that I think I saw at CS and it was, it was, you know, around was that purse robot.
And I know it's not a full blown robot, you know, speaking of talking to something, so in my imagination, I would want any, you know, mixed reality to speak to a little purse robot size, something small, none of this big stuff, goes out and does things that you can have it do, so that you get that, that reach. You know, if we're gonna to dream about how this would work and, you know, give it more capability. So even more than a drone, something else.
And to give it a little bit more context besides just purse robot, it's, it's basically a mental health caregiver type of device that there there's two or three companies that had various options, but there was one that was just amazingly cute and would respond to you. So the ability, if you then could con connect with it.
And get that feedback, you know, it's, it's nice to have it there kind of responding to you and giving you something to think about, like, you know, having a, a, a care animal with you. But then actually getting it to respond like you're talking about, that just is, would be, yeah, definitely cool.
Yeah. That's why I'm saying if we're going to dream, you know, and we're, we're getting to star wars, you know, universe levels of, of dreaming, you know, Something that small robotic, not scary, not horror, but you know, useful. But, you know, can we take a second to reflect on the stunning pace of change here? I mean, this, this feels a little bit like the AR VR conversation feels a little bit like when we're talking about location based services is that it's not there. It's not there.
It's it's and then boom, it's everywhere. Right. So I kind of feel like.
We're very much on the cusp of not maybe someday like not too distant future in my life This is going to be a very viable product what we're talking about here Whether it's like a little assistant thing that barb was talking about or you know projection glasses that are Connected to a larger ai and sort of like a virtual assistant that give you a wealth of information I feel like we're just on the cusp of that being possible
And I think one of the things, I mean, because, you know, Barbie mentioned sort of when we've had these discussions in the past, one of the things we have talked about is uptake, right? That what's going to drive the success of whichever one, right? So the VHS versus Betamax or whatever will be either the killer app or the killer design or whatever it is that will give it mass appeal.
And if that's in business, as you say, or something, or consumers using it for other things like entertainment and stuff, or ideally one that could do both things, then, you know, You know, and I, but I do think like, oh, you're saying Frank is yes, we're, we're almost there. Like I can imagine some of these devices, if they just could somehow, you know, mate and have a baby that we would have the magical device. Right. So I think, so that's why I kind of just wanted to revisit it.
Cause we've have a few times is that my hope was dying. Cause I'm like, oh, I could use my VR stuff for certain things. And, you know, I've got, I had the echo frames and I'm like, well, I can listen to tunes and talk to Alexa. But now some of the things I'm seeing again Are making me think, oh, well, you know what, maybe it can happen.
It's so, so anyway, that, that's why I kind of, I wanted to, as we start off to the year of 2025, right, halfway to 2030, I thought it would, would be good to just, you know, see what we're thinking on that.
Well, I think you can also point out the fact that this is one of those things where with location based services, what we Saw coming wasn't necessarily what arrived and so what we've been looking for in the past Cause again, I mean, we, we've been embedded in this since before we started doing the podcast. You know, we had access to a full cave. We've had access to VR headsets, you know, we've had gloves and this and that and a lot of immersion into this area.
And so we're kind of in some ways actually limited by the sheer length of time we've been looking at this. It kind of drags us back from seeing what could be. And I think that the thing that's going to tip it over the edge are these. mobility things that Google Lens kind of started, but it's going to be more than that. And it's, I do think it's going to be a mixed. A mixed media as opposed to just mixed reality.
So it is everything except for maybe smell because you know that's as we keep coming back to any kind of VR. Smell is the only thing that we don't really want. Did you see Dyson's thing? I don't, again, I don't want smell. No matter what Trevor has said. Dyson has an air purifier now that's like a headset and then it looks like. It goes across your face, and I was like, well, you could put a smell thing in there. You could, yes.
Well, yeah, I mean, like, that's just it, right, that we know that we have to affect the sentence. Like, so the, another thing, was it at CES, was I think it was Japanese researchers have come up with a spoon that will make you think that you're tasting salt, but your food isn't salty, right? So for people who have to be on low salt diets. So that is it, right?
It's, is the, the way that we can interface with the human senses And sight has been the one we've been able to intervene with maybe the most, and sight and hearing, but the other ones, potentially. So, because I always thought, too, one of the things, right, is that always kind of separates you out takes a step back, like in VR environments, right, is you can't feel the air around you.
Like when you're doing things like thinking that you're moving or running or whatever I mean one of the things is resistance to the air and stuff like that.
We've never been able to replicate some of that and I thought you know what if you if you added that sense, which is essentially feel or touch or whatever then I wondered how close you know, how much closer you would get so not that I want that on a mixed reality thing Haven't Try to convince me that i'm walking down the sidewalk in in miami, but i'm climbing mount everest Yeah, no, i'm good with not having that You know, when I think about these things now with Sue, what you're saying,
you know that I worked early on with a company that was doing things like exercise machines in space, stuff that we're planning for the future for when we have, you know, extended stays that, you know, became a reality. But these are things now I'm looking, what you're talking about, I'm going, but I could see why that would be important in certain environments. You know that that really that might be the thing that that kicks that off and the salt spoon and the salt spoon. You could Google it.
It was kind of kind of interesting, but that's it for this week's topic in the web corner. Ken Burns documentarian PBS has Ken Burns in the classroom. And one of the focuses for One of the documentaries on Leonardo da Vinci is maps are in the environment, which looks at cartography and Leonardo da Vinci. It's really a very good talking about the history of navigation. Just a good history of.
What map map making and the thoughts about mapping were like during Leonardo da Vinci's time, and it's a good resource. Again, I mean, I was actually I, I will be doing digital cartography for my university students, and I'm actually thinking about applying some of this. For their early exercises where we talk about how you represent landscapes and how you view the world and how that translates into map making. So pretty cool resource.
Soon I will be in tandem there because I will also be teaching digital cartography this semester. So we can, we can compare notes to how it turned out. Yeah. There, there you go. Or if you, if you want to compare notes early on, I'm doing a couple of different things this time. So we'll see. I'm knuckling under and doing more web stuff. Well, obviously given my predilections, I'm going to be. Primarily web stuff. Oh yeah, but you gotta have those, you gotta have those principles.
Yeah. Color theory is color theory no matter, you know, what. That is correct. That is correct. On to the events corner. There are no events this week. You should go out and find some. You should start going back to conferences if you can afford to do so. That of course is a larger hurdle than it used to be. As costs continue to rise for everything. So yeah, head out and check out conferences. If you'd like us to add your event to the podcast, send us an email to podcast at veryspatial. com.
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