The shadow and light of the church are a part of the same story and integrating the suffering and the healing that the church created is part of our necessary preparation for the next part of our journey. Acceptance of our past life in church with its blessings is a wholesome alternative to staying locked in the fight with what has been. In which case, there's no freedom to move on.
May 22, 2022•20 min
It’s one thing to know that letting go is possible and even necessary. But it’s another to stand at the threshold of leaving without feeling fear. Most of us will carry some fear. In this episode I discuss the DNA of Mormon fear of leaving the church.
Apr 30, 2022•37 min
In this episode: "Letting go needn't be truly feared. Letting go can become a friend to us, releasing us into the flow of an abundant and growthful life."
Apr 20, 2022•35 min
This episode opens up the last chapters of my time as host of A Thoughtful Faith Podcast. I aim to hang up the mic at the end of the 2022. The remainder of my time with the podcast will be devoted to faith reconstruction and exploring how to have a good church ending and an even better spiritual beginning.
Apr 12, 2022•21 min
Some years ago, Tali Aitofi found Mormon podcasts and became hooked. But Tali isn't Mormon, he's Pentecostal. His faith journey has played out with the hum of Mormon faith crises in the background. Tali recently came out as gay; he left his family church, and is currently suffering from a life threatening illness. All of this has caused deep and searching questions. Tali joins me to talk about his life journey and how the Netflix series Midnight Mass spoke to his larger questions about church, G...
Feb 23, 2022•1 hr 3 min
Painter, now documentary film maker and producer Nathan Florence joins me to discuss ‘Bright Spark: The Reconcilation of Trevor Southey’ For eleven years, artist Nathan Florence documented Trevor Southey's life with his heart and with his lens in order to tell an unfolding story that ended in Trevor’s death in 2015. It’s an unusual documentary but nonetheless affecting because like a painting it constantly unfolds. The film is a soft place among the polarized voices of LDS folk in and out of the...
Jan 20, 2022•1 hr 8 min
Utah based life coach, Jana Spangler, reflects on her extensive work with Mormons who are in the thick of deconstruction and reconstruction. She argues that being in healthy relationship with our bodies will yield precisely the wisdom we need to make critical life decisions.
Jan 13, 2022•1 hr 10 min
If you love Christmas, then this episode isn't for you. But, if you or someone you know doesn't approach Christmas with merriment and cheer, then this conversation between me and my good friend Nicola Petty might be worth listening to. Both of us are avowed Grinches and as a concession to those who have to put up with our annual disagreeableness we get together for a chat to identify our points of disagreement with the Silly Season. And we wonder if we need to cancel it next year?...
Dec 31, 2021•55 min
At Syracuse University, moral injury is defined as, "… the damage done to one’s conscience or moral compass when that person perpetrates, witnesses, or fails to prevent acts that transgress one’s own moral beliefs, values, or ethical codes of conduct." In this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Aaron joins me to discuss moral injury. Many coming from the LDS tradition have been taught to spiritually bypass our gut reactions to practices or doctrines, chalking our doubts up to our personal f...
Nov 30, 2021•1 hr 9 min
Child sexual abuse in the church is pernicious and confounding. Why anyone purporting to be Christian would sexually abuse a child is beyond the imagination of many. Yet it happens, and far too often to be dismissed. The Royal Commissions of Inquiry into Sexual Abuse in Ireland and Australia, and currently being conducted in New Zealand, have resulted in powerful evidence-based recommendations for best practices that keep children safe from predatory behaviour in faith-based institutions. Despit...
Oct 17, 2021•1 hr 18 min
Author of the Spiritual Child, Professor of Psychology Lisa Miller writes in ‘The Spiritual Child’: “Spiritual development through the early years … provides a protective health benefit, reducing the risk of depression, substance abuse, aggression, and high-risk behaviors.” It’s for this reason that the team at Upliftkids have created a resource for parents to help them spiritually nurture their children, regardless of religious persuasion. The resources at Uplift Kids help both parents and chil...
Oct 15, 2021•58 min
Australian barrister Neville Rochow QC has offered the LDS Church legal advice over the years and has appeared for the church at parliamentary committees on the question of religious freedom. For two years, he also represented the church at the European Parliament in Brussels. He has been intimately involved in the church’s legal concerns and is well versed in how its legal machinery works, particularly internationally. In part two of this series, Neville joins me to discuss the LDS Church and i...
Oct 04, 2021•1 hr 6 min
Australian barrister Neville Rochow QC has offered the LDS Church legal advice over the years and has appeared for the church at parliamentary committees on the question of religious freedom. For two years, he also represented the church at the European Parliament in Brussels. He has been intimately involved in the church's legal concerns and is well versed in how its legal machinery works, particularly internationally. In part one of this series, Neville joins me to discuss the LDS Church and i...
Sep 26, 2021•50 min
Mark Crego and I met around eight years ago, fellow sojourners in the quest to understand our shared faith in the LDS church. We had a similar curiosity about the spiritual life and consequently we both completed a Masters degree: He in theology and me in ministry. Having taken a Christian formation path we find ourselves similarly interested in the necessity of the divinity of Jesus. Was he literally, biologically the Son of God? Neither of us think so. This conversation is not new. Jane Schabe...
Aug 28, 2021•1 hr 14 min
While the Mountain Saints speak of the Law of Chastity being the iron clad rule that anything sexual should happen in marriage, the Praire Saints have a statement of Sexual Ethics. The Statement of Sexual Ethics is the distillation of years of discussion with church leaders across the world and continues as a living document up for discussion and debate. Community of Christ Apostle Robin Linkhart and former LDS members and now Community of Christ Ministers, Brittany Mangelson and Nancy Ross join...
Aug 25, 2021•1 hr 36 min
When I began questioning the LDS Church, I did not expect the Stake Relief Society president to join me. Nicola Petty went from orthodox and loyal member guided by the priesthood to a Stake Relief Society President who had been woken up by the Ordain Women movement. It was in this capacity that I watched her press priesthood button after priesthood button advocating intelligently and determinedly for the women in our stake. And then, when the church was no longer reconcilable, rather than spit t...
Jul 25, 2021•1 hr 45 min
Born and raised a devout Mormon in Utah, Katie Langston chronicles her unexpected conversion to orthodox Christianity with candor and theological depth. Her remarkable debut memoir explores themes of religious fundamentalism, mental illness, and family belonging—culminating in her surprising and liberating encounters with the grace of God in Jesus Christ. Gina and Katie dive deep into the question of faith and family.
Jul 12, 2021•1 hr 18 min
We were made for tenderness, gentleness, openness, authenticity, vulnerability, compassion and caring. We are threaded through with the strands of genuine goodness. Our true selves, our inner landscapes are beautiful and potentiated for wholeness, fullness and love. Mormon trauma is most profoundly felt into being culturally, or institutionally permitted to be our true selves but to live in this highly controlled world where we are treated as potentiated for evil and best kept managed, where the...
Jun 12, 2021•1 hr 16 min
Some people say that Community of Christ is just LDS lite. This simply isn't true. Despite their common roots, you would be unlikely to find two more differently wired faith traditions than the Community of Christ (RLDS) and the LDS (Mormons). To discuss how this came to be and why the RLDS set about revising and reforming their church in the 1960's while the LDS took on a renewed commitment to restoration fundamentalism and American political conservatism, Professor of American religion, David ...
May 23, 2021•1 hr 10 min
Ambivalence, ambiguity, lack of accountability and spiritual abuse characterize Natasha Helfer's membership council. Her witnesses speak out about their experience.
May 19, 2021•2 hr 22 min
Spencer Wells and Isaac Barnes May seek to put the recent ex-communication/name removal of Natasha Helfer from the LDS Church into the broader context of church boundary maintenance in America.
Apr 30, 2021•1 hr 7 min
As a performance artist, Andi has been feeding her culture with bread for many years. She bakes, graffitis and gifts her bread warm to those in need. Artistically weaving mountains, fire, lament and bread comes from an elemental and a cosmic drive to make the spiritual immanent. Andi and I talk about how material culture becomes spiritual culture.
Apr 26, 2021•49 min
Natasha Helfer (LCMFT, CST, CSTS )is a licensed clinician and mental health professional who has been summoned to a LDS Church trial for her public stance on sexual health. Taking offence at the idea that the LDS Church is a toxic religious home for our LGBTQIA+ community, and that masturbation can be both appropriate and healthy, a Kansas Stake President has held onto Natasha's records for 18 months in order to execute this action. Natasha joins me to discuss the broader context of LDS Church c...
Apr 18, 2021•1 hr 43 min
This month, our discussion comes from listeners' questions about; white supremacy, intra-faith marriage, community belonging, spirituality and the true church!
Mar 31, 2021•1 hr 13 min
One of 150 siblings, Mary Jayne Blackmore is the daughter of Mormon leader Winston Blackmore. Mary Jayne Blackmore grew up within the closed-off polygamist community of Bountiful, BC. Her family’s staunch Fundamentalist Mormon faith imposed fanatical doomsday preparation and carried an instilled fear of the world outside her community. Mary Jayne has written a memoir 'Balancing Bountiful' of her evolution as a woman with a most unusual childhood. Now out of the church but still in the community ...
Mar 29, 2021•1 hr 30 min
Today Katie Langston returns to the Spiritual Advice Line. We discuss spiritual abuse; unhelpful images of God; spiritual direction; the necessity of community, and how to read the Bible. If you would like to submit a question you may do so by going to katielangston.com (These discussions are not necessarily representative of the official positions of either the ELC or the Community of Christ.
Feb 27, 2021•1 hr 21 min
Emily Rose is the Campus Minister for Faith, Justice and Solidarity at a Jesuit University in Kansas City, Missouri. In this episode, Emily Rose joins me to discuss eco-spirituality, eco-justice and eco-feminism and the way that the environment undergirds her relationship with her faith, the Divine and ultimately with the rest of the human family. As a young person in the service of younger persons, her voice is essential as we think about the future of faith, spirituality and Christianity....
Feb 22, 2021•44 min
Eco-humanitarian and eco-theologian BYU Professor George Handley joins me to discuss his immense concern for the Earth and its future. Professor Handley argues that humanity must be seen in light of our intimate and dependent relationship with Earth’s natural systems. The Earth sustains and nourishes life but it needs our reciprocal care to ensure that it can do its sacred work. Any theology that positions humanity as superior to the Earth or entitled to take what we like is why we face this cur...
Feb 07, 2021•1 hr 21 min
Katie Langston joins me to discuss Christmas; Why it's perfectly fine not to take the Bible literally; Why Jesus is not the Jehovah of the Old Testament; Finding new images and symbols for God, and the power and versatility of spiritual practice.
Dec 31, 2020•1 hr 10 min
Liz Brown MacDonald was curious about the effect of the behaviour of religiously rigid parents on their children who disaffiliate from the LDS Church. This is Part Two of the discussion.
Dec 27, 2020•50 min