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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulowww.athingortwohq.com
Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We've heard this weekly podcast described as a 'unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things,' and we're very much on board with that take.
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Episodes

The Last Episode, 10 Years Later

Bobs! In surreal news, this is the final episode of this podcast. To close things out, we answer listener questions, walk down memory lane, share our final Thingies, and recommend a few podcasts to fill the ATOT void. Starting with a hot take: Labubu is not for us. Now for the Thingies to end all (podcast) Thingies: We are loving Botox for migraines, a skateboarding corgi , a breakfast spinach salad (relatedly: Dinosaur Time ), Painterland Sisters Skyr , Dill Pickle Flamin’ Hot Cheetos , and Pri...

May 19, 20251 hr 4 min

Cam’s Thingies and What’s Giving Us Comfort in or Homes, Brought to You by Sixpenny

On the penultimate episode of this podcast, we’re talking about the things that make us feel happy @ home, courtesy of the wonderful crew over at Sixpenny . (Remember the chair and a half ?! They’re responsible!) Also: our final—and dare we say most exclusive—Thingie guest… Sixpenny ’s furniture just makes us feel GOOD?! Check out the Neva Chair , order some fabric swatches , consider the power of a slipcover , explore the best-looking storage ottomans you ever did see. A whole bunch of little w...

May 12, 202539 min

Character Actors, Josie and the Pussycats, and Weeknight Dinner Slumps with Lana Schwartz (Author of Set Piece from 831 Stories!)

Thingies time! We’re so excited to sit down with Lana Schwartz , the author of the newest 831 Stories release, Set Piece . We talk favorite character actors, joining ClassPass in 2025, and an incredible podcast season that inspired her book. Lana’s Thingies include ClassPass (she’s been hitting up MADabolic , Lucent , Good Move , and New Love City ), Lorne by Susan Morrison , Sex and the City rewatches, movie trivia at Syndicated , the Rilo Kiley reunion , and Easy Weeknight Dinners by Emily Wei...

May 05, 202545 min

Exclu: The End of This Podcast is Nigh

Coming through with an exlcu: The A Thing or Two podcast is airing its last ep on May 19, ten years (!!!) since we started this thing. Get ready to walk down memory lane in the coming weeks, but for now, we’re sharing what we’ll miss about podcasting and what we’re ok to leave behind! But: The A Thing or Two newsletter will live on! What were your favorite moments of the podcast? Share em’ at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com , @athingortwohq , or our Geneva .Launch your store on Shopify a...

Apr 28, 202538 min

How We’re Getting Dressed, Brought to You by Nuuly

Thank you to Nuuly, both for sponsoring today’s episode and for making it easier to get dressed during these hardest times of the year for CLOTHES (spring for Erica, summer for Claire, thanks for asking). Have we sold you on Nuuly yet? Use cases: trying out a bunch of jeans (or, gasp, shorts), dealing with wedding season, test-driving a bunch o’ new looks without having to own them, navigating maternity and post-partum dressing…we could go on. And! Right now you can get $28 off your first month ...

Apr 21, 202540 min

Birthday PowerPoints, Kuromi Tattoos, and Role Model(s)

Follow-up time! We did some boots-on-the-ground reporting, and so did you: We have updates on anxiety bookshelves, Santa, calendar systems, PowerPoints as gifts, and (but of course) Kuromi.. Delighted to spot Kuromi in the flash tattoo folder at Haven Tattoo Studio ! If you’re heading to the theater soon, we highly recommend seeing Buena Vista Social Club and Grief Camp —and you’ll find us at LaGuardia High School’s All-School Musical come December! Do you have any updates on our updates? Share ...

Apr 14, 202541 min

Backronyms, Greeking Out, and Tiramisu Trolleys

Boy, do we have topics to cover: a go-to kids' podcasts, sweet treat updates, a new approach to nyms, duvet cover drama, and more. Yes, we know about the Greeking Out podcast from National Geographic, and it is great. Speaking of NatGeo, we love Mickey Rapkin’s Pattie Gonia profile . Our sugar fix(es): Katz Honey Vinegar , tiramisu served tableside at Piccola Cucina Osteria (or in a wee NY Yankees cap ), See’s Scotchmallows , Zu’s Candies chic boxes , and pandan in cereal and ice cream sandwiche...

Apr 07, 202542 min

Seasonal Treats, Acupressure Updates, and Cozy-Soapy Books

Update! Update! Come get your update! We learned a lot of info about Velveeta loaves, lucky girl syndrome, seasonal treats, minimal shoes, and more that we gotta share! On Erica’s iPhone note for seasonal treats in April, you will find an Ojai Pixie Party , Great N.Y. Noodletown ’s softshell crab, and Styer’s Peonies , and coming up with DIY traditions reminds us of The New Better Off by Courtney E. Martin . Circle of Friends by Maeve Binchy gives cozy-soapy, which is exactly what we want right ...

Mar 31, 202541 min

Dealing with the Mental Load of Meals, Brought to You by Ollie

We have Ollie to thank for bringing us this ep about a topic near, if not dear: the headache of feeding ourselves and others. (We have to do this multiple times a day?!?!). The app helps you figure out what to cook, makes your grocery list, and *learns what you like*—it’s a whole thing, and we’re grateful for the robots for helping us with this task. In related topics: our always-on-hand grocery items and supermarket immersive theater. Stuff always in our pantries/fridges: Chara’s Kitchen Barbeq...

Mar 24, 202543 min

Anxiety Bookshelves and Recapping One Installment of Miranda July's Newsletter

Another day, another grab bag! This time, books for dolls and/or anxious people, kitchen timers, TikTok decorum, and Miranda July’s mesmerizing Substack. Meditations for Mortals makes a great case for pleasure reading. Two of our current top Substacks: Miranda July’s and Heavies by Chris Gayomali . Shoutout to Caroline Lusk on TikTok . We will be downloading your videos and sharing them with our pals for the foreseeable future. Double shoutout to Nasirin’s Kitchen , Erica’s near–Carnegie Hall re...

Mar 17, 202541 min

“Purchasable Solutions to the Problem of Being Alive”

Are exposed ankles back? Luigi Mangione sure says so. Also, stuffie reports, Jibbitz musings, purchasable solutions, travel lacrosse balls, and more! Stuffie bag charms are happening at 10 Corso Como , we ate up Liza Corsillo’s "I Spent 3 Hours at the Jellycat Diner" for NY Mag, and we’re just getting to know Mofusand and their loreless world via their Uniqlo collab . Jibbitz-inspired living is taking over! The Boulder Public Library hosted a make-your-own jibbitz event , and shoe charms and san...

Mar 10, 202541 min

Pasta Chips, Custard Oatmeal, and Doing Our Very Best To Stay Sane

First things first: You won’t get sick from touching a bag of S’noods ! We’re also coming at you with custard oatmeal, holiday mash-ups, and the many sides of the TikTok creator fund. We have a lot of thoughts about S’noods , their origins, and the sweet kugel flavor . Custard oatmeal is the new breakfast of champs around here. Erica’s recipe is from Life Around the Table , but there are a lot of fancier versions still . The Minnesota Zoo and Anchorage Bird Rescue also got in on the fun of ex-ce...

Mar 03, 202546 min

Sitting Jeans, Unpolished Nails TikTok, and Tricking Google AI

We have some denim thoughts we can’t bottle up anymore! Also: cookies, curse words, and no-polish confidence. Here we go. Irene from the Real World made a great TikTok about sitting jeans vs. standing jeans. Shoutout to The Consistency Project for helping us find vintage denim that fits and Jane on Jeans for endless intel—the place for denim discourse. The limited-edition Tate's White Chocolate Raspberry cookies ? So good! These little wooden mushroom nutcrackers + shelled walnuts = a nice pre-d...

Feb 24, 202538 min

Julius Fanfic, Pick Me Foods, and Cotton Candy Art

Coming to you live from the couch! We have a batch of miscellaneous updates for you, from Julius and Tree Paine fanfic to food trends, cute and otherwise. Cutie news! Hello Kitty + Miffy statues have shown up at 17 State St. in NYC, and we’re excited to see these two powerhouses partner in this way. We are captivated by the very elaborate Fluffy Algodón Cotton Candy Art and floof cotton candy cakes . Also! Rebecca Jennings’s story on “pick me” foods for Vox is an incredibly interesting piece abo...

Feb 17, 202536 min

Manifestation Jibbitz and How a Cat Cafe Does V-Day

Happy Valentine’s Week! Let’s celebrate with a cat-neutering campaign, to-go Velvetta, Jibbitz vision boards. Oh, and Santa. We’re super charmed by CUNY’s callout for couples who met on campus and want our alma mater to do the same. And: Please take note of River Kitty Cafe’s ‘Neuter Your Ex’ initiative . How do we these Vans in adult sizes? If you’re in NYC and looking for Galentine’s Day plans, come to our event about the bonkbuster on Feb. 13 . Dream panelists!! Back to the onions: Pauline Ch...

Feb 10, 202544 min

Back Scratchers, No-Churn Ice Cream Sundaes, and a Remarkable Hair Oil

It’s time to treat ourselves to a good, old-fashioned catch-up. Ready for some updates on workouts, hair styling, hot dogs, and marriage? Kayleen Schaefer’s Elle article “How 50 Pushups a Day Helped Me Cope In an Uncertain World.” Three hair recs: Ranavat Fortifying Hair Serum , the Dyson Airwrap , and Christophe Robin Temporary Color Gel . Shoutout to PDT , the speakeasy behind Crif Dogs, and the Turkey and the Wolf Cookbook by Mason Hereford and JJ Goode . High-end fun?! Claire’s beloved Kikke...

Feb 03, 202538 min

Incense, Italian Hand Gestures, and Dating with Upasna Barath (the Newest 831 Stories Author!)

Ah, we can’t wait for you to get to hang with Upasna Barath ! We chat *THINGIES* with the author and playwright—and also discuss her experience writing Comedic Timing , a modern bi-awakening with exceptional dialogue and the most charming friendships. It’s the next exceedingly delightful 831 Stories release, out tomorrow! Upasna’s Thingies include incense in the mornings ( Upstate Stock’s Albany Black Spruce , specifically), scented body oil over perfume ( Nuxe FTW), a red lip with no makeup ( V...

Jan 27, 202553 min

How We’re Taking Care of Ourselves, Brought to You by OSEA

In the throes of everything 2025 is throwing at us, we’re discussing how we approach wellness and the small things we do to take care of ourselves (at least a little bit!!!). Major thanks to OSEA for bringing us this episode—10% off your first order with the code ATHINGORTWO! Can we start with some praise for OSEA’s Undaria Algae Body Butter ? It absorbs quickly, it feels excellent, and it’s making Claire actually moisturize every day. Claire is also exercising with Cam, opting for phone calls o...

Jan 20, 202541 min

Our Top Thingies of Last Year

Before diving into the newness of 2025, we wanted to reflect on our top Thingies of last year. Fashion, framing, food, and a full-blown flurry of favorites ahead! Claire’s best-of Thingies include the PJ Library , Wisp , Épice Paris , Bluesafe24 glasses , Caro Chambers , and the Natori Bliss Girl Brief . Erica’s Thingies of the year include Biryani Bol , Nelle Atelier (specifically their Laura style), Susan Orlean’s Wordy Bird Substack , Framebridge , Buena Vista Social Club the musical , and, o...

Jan 13, 202544 min

Goop Kitchen, Isitpacked.com, and the Slow Death of Ellemenohpee

It’s time to let your inner Larry David out because we have THOUGHTS to SHARE! Gen Alpha has a new (jarring??) way to learn their alphabet . We were suspicious of isitpacked.com for planning a Disneyland trip, but we’ve changed our tune. Things we won’t shut up about include OSSA phone straps and Goop Kitchen . Let’s discuss Uggs , shall we? Do you/kids in your life have daily affirmations? If so, send them in at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com , @athingortwohq , or pop them in our Genev...

Jan 06, 202534 min

Crowd Favorite: Olsen Oracle, Holiday Cards, and Inspiringly Nutty Ways to Use the Notes App

Call it a classic grab bag from this time last year! Please note that we are still in the market for your Notes App intel… Gained some wisdom from @OlsenOracle , a perfect fan account (that is maybe even Olsen approved ???). We’re having a Marcella Hazan moment, thanks to, as Food & Wine put it her “radical simplicity.” Some recipes we’ve been cooking: THE tomato, onion, and butter sauce , grilled fish romagna style , pesto , rice and smothered cabbage soup , and chimney sweep’s gelato . Spe...

Dec 30, 202435 min

Crowd Favorite: Alison Roman’s Thingies and One Last Kid Gifting Idea

In a rerun of an *absolute hit* episode from last holiday season, we’re talkin’ Thingies with Alison Roman, the woman behind a SLEW of recipes we cook all the dang time. We know you know her, but JIC, she’s the author of NYT bestselling—and gifty!—cookbooks Sweet Enough, Nothing Fancy , and Dining In , she doles out the most delightful kitchen content in A Newsletter and on her Home Movies YouTube channel, and she delivers guidance of all kinds on her Solicited Advice podcast. In essence: She’s ...

Dec 23, 202438 min

A Double Dose of Eighties Content and Pizza Hut Wine

Are a majority of today’s topics serendipitously eighties related? Yes. Are we inadvertently excited about that? Indeed. Pizza Hut updates! Tomato-basil Pizza Wine and American Girl’s Book It! Set . Someone barefoot 24/7: Buffalo Bills wide receiver Mack Hollins . And spotted! Cutie eyes on Kacey Musgraves merch . We are loving Rivals , which is based on a novel by Dame Jilly Cooper. See also: her takes in this Financial Times interview and “It’s Family ‘Sex Scenes’ Night” by Anya Kamenetz for T...

Dec 16, 202437 min

Animal Updates and Thingies with Sanjana Basker, Romance Thinker Extraordinaire

You ready to talk about romance, feminism, and monsters? We sure are, and so is Sanjana Basker, a psychology PhD student and bookish content creator who we’re obsessed with (in a totally normal way). Also: some animal updates, thank goodness. Animal Updates! Kacey Musgraves is an NYC rat defender (join the club), the raccoon at LaGuardia has captured our hearts, and Claude has arrived at Erica’s house (by way of Long Island Rabbit Rescue )! Sanjana’s Thingies are Rivals on Hulu , mass-market pap...

Dec 09, 202448 min

Where to Gift Guide and Photo-Dissecting Icon Emily Keegin’s Guest Thingies

We are so excited to chat with photo director/visual cultural commentator/incredible Instagram follow Emily Keegin about her Thingies! Also: some thoughts on where to get your gift guides this year, should you not be overwhelmed with them already. Thank you for respecting our decision not to do 2024 gift guides! If you want past installments, we have five year’s worth here . For the freshest stuff, check out Helen Rosner’s for the New Yorker , Goop (the modern Neiman Marcus catalog?), Caroline M...

Dec 02, 202444 min

Good Bitchy Bosses, the IG Comment Section, and Book It!

Welcome to Article Club! A few that require our attention this week span topics from an important anniversary to management tips to recommendation culture. Now off to go eat a personal pan pizza… Is it an overstatement to say that Book It! is one of our generation’s premier cultural references? This NYT story commemorates the 40th anniversary, and an LA Times article from 1985 made us feel nostalgic. See also: pins for sale on eBay and Tejal Rao’s fascinating review of Chain . We loved “Want To ...

Nov 25, 202438 min

Minimalist Shoes, Eat/Pray/Love, and Wrinkle Makeup

Another day, another kookalook collection of topics from us, including new lingo care of (honorary Bob) Jack Schlossberg, wrinkle makeup, minimalist shoes, LaGuardia Airport, and a straw cupdate. Wrinkle makeup—not what you think, probably! Check out a couple of looks by @shine__rising and rachy_mua . Related: crackle lips . In which we dip our toes into the minimalist shoes conversation: Gait Happens , Born to Run by Christopher McDougall , and The Infinite Race 30 for 30 doc by Bernardo Ruiz a...

Nov 18, 202446 min

Farmonious Sounds and Hardly Strangers Author A.C. Robinson’s Thingies (Shoulder Pads Included)

We are DELIGHTED to have Alana Cloud-Robinson on today to share her Thingies from her perfect, wood-paneled home (more on that, clearly). She’s the author of the 831 Stories release Hardly Strangers , out tomorrow, and, wow, we can’t wait for you to read this one. Alana’s Thingies include shoulder pads, thrifting (see: The Council Shop !), her home in Century City, and Irish culture (shoutout to Fontaines D.C. , and Say Nothing ). Want more Alana? Check out The Artists Are Frightened , her premi...

Nov 11, 202449 min

Marriage Merch, Whenharrymetsallying, and Chewbie the Hi-Chew Mascot

After this episode, we have some action items for the Bobs: 1. Petition Dairy Queen and Carvel to make their ice cream cake minis available nationwide, year-round. 2. Use “whenharrymetsallying” in a sentence. 3. Send us your thoughts on NYC Marriage Bureau merch. We aren’t doing gift guides this year, but we’ll tell you good places to look once it's time! Start with giftguide.substack.com . We’re excited to meet Chewbie , Hi-Chew’s new Mascot, but perhaps this is a "say less" situation? The Rat ...

Nov 04, 202442 min

Kuromi, Workout Pants, and Milk.com

We have some very serious reporting about very serious topics coming your way, including the official Sanrio character rankings, a Jellycat status update, and some wild news from the domain-hoarding beat. We have to take a moment to show some love to Kuromi , the third-ranked Sanrio character overall and Sanrio costume-sourcing, ℅ Sueju Design and Nerdy Treasures by Amy . How Jellycat became so popular with kids and grown-ups alike . Also: Their pop=ups give Sew Your Soul vibes, in our opinion. ...

Oct 28, 202451 min
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