We are all the same: John Barnes

John Barnes is a former Liverpool, Watford and England footballer who would like people to think hard about discrimination and its origins. He has a new book out - The Uncomfortable Truth about Racism - which explores the human propensity for creating illusory hierarchies in our minds and putting people on pedastals. John's point is - whatever our background - deep down we are all the same. While we are all prone to mental conditioning, we can move beyond it. *** Follow me: on instagram https://www.instagram.com/simonmundie/ on twitter https://twitter.com/simonmundie And for the 'Mundie on Monday' newsletter - featuring three of the best Life Lessons from three years and more than 150 of these conversations - head to simonmundie.com *** Thanks to the sponsors of this episode Pure Sport CBD - whose support enables me to put out weekly episodes. Whether you are anxious, stressed, struggling to focus or sleep – there’s something for everyone in their brilliant range of oils, capsules, balms and nootropics. You can get £10 off your first order using the code Life10 at checkout and puresportcbd.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices