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Survivor's Escape Plan TRIGGER WARNING

Jun 22, 202544 min
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After Victoria's powerful interview about surviving domestic violence became the podcast's most popular episode ever, Michael and Victoria return with this crucial follow-up discussion diving deeper into practical escape strategies that saved her life.

Victoria shares the harrowing reality of living with a violent narcissist while pregnant with her daughter. "He testified that if he hit me once, he hit me 200 times," Victoria reveals, explaining how she made the agonizing choice not to defend herself—despite having two black belts in martial arts—to protect her unborn child. The daily terror included being woken by punches to the face, having every text message monitored, and being denied even basic medical care after brutal assaults.

The heart of this episode centers on Victoria's ingenious survival tactics that anyone in danger can implement immediately. She outlines specific methods for secretly saving money (getting cash back during regular shopping trips), hiding evidence (using photo printing services to store screenshots of threatening texts), and "abuse-proofing" a home (replacing glass items with plastic versions that cause less damage when thrown). Victoria also details how she documented the abuse without leaving electronic traces, opened a safe deposit box under her maiden name, and kept a burner phone hidden for emergencies.

Beyond the practical advice, this conversation reveals the extraordinary resilience of the human spirit. Victoria describes how her daughter became her lifeline—literally kicking in the womb whenever Victoria contemplated giving up. Years later, after escaping her abuser and building a new life, Victoria and Michael have created the Contagious Smile Academy, offering courses to help others navigate similar situations with scholarship options ensuring no one is turned away for financial reasons.

This episode isn't just for those currently experiencing abuse—it's for anyone who wants to understand how to support loved ones in dangerous situations or recognize early warning signs in their own relationships. Join us for this raw, powerful conversation that proves survival isn't just possible, it's the first step toward a thriving future.

Check out contagioussmileacademy.com to access resources and courses designed to help anyone escape abuse and begin healing. Remember, you are never alone.

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Welcome to Contagious Smile Unstoppable

Speaker 1

Really Howdy y'all . Welcome to another episode of Contagious Smile Unstoppable .

Speaker 2

Take three .

Speaker 1

Yeah , this is our third date . I keep messing up y'all . So this is Michael and this is Victoria . Hi , sexy Vixen . I'm Vixen , she's sexy y'all . Hands to the mind , don't get any ideas , jj .

Speaker 2

Are you kidding me right now ? Did you really just put that , do I ? Oh my God , he's laughing . Yeah right , he's a great person .

Speaker 1

He is . What's he coming on ?

Speaker 2

The Ripple Retreat . He honored me and allowed me to interview him on his birthday and after he had been sober for so many years , and what an honor that is . That is a stellar stand-up person who has an amazing yet sad story , and he has come back and now he has what's called the Ripple . Retreat . You need to go check that out . That's anywhere on podcast .

Well , you can go to the Ripple Retreat website too . He's just a stand-up person , Y'all can check him out . So , now that my husband already has a spit in his mouth , happy belated birthday .

Speaker 1

Thank you , love .

Speaker 2

How was it ?

Speaker 1

It was outstanding .

Speaker 2

Because you had no drama trauma .

Speaker 1

No drama , trauma . I had good cake , good presents , good family , good time .

Speaker 2

Do you feel like you've missed anything by not hearing from people ?

Speaker 1

No .

Speaker 2

Really .

Speaker 1

I've only heard . One person I heard from was our other daughter . That was it , as I'm telling you . You know , we became the black sheep of the families . Yeah Right . Just because you know we make a stand on some things and things and you know we're not going to take any more shit .

Speaker 2

We bring out others demons . That's really what a black sheep is they ? They bring out the ugliness of their truth , because we won't cover them anymore , we won't hide for them or give in to their needs or wants anymore , and when you do that , then they have no use for you .

So because they cannot take accountability for any of their actions talking about narcissists . then they turn around and flake in onto you and make you look like you're the bad person . You're the liar , you're the bad person who just did them wrong .

And they try to slander you and defame your character left , right and center , and we both had that so so the wife is still working on um some of our websites for our academy . Go to facebook , type in a contagious smile academy and you'll see that there we will never turn anyone away .

The courses are valued so much more than what we have been listed for monetarily . It's the fact that we don't want anyone to not be able to partake in these courses . We have five different collections right now . We just added the Valor Circle for military vets and a lot of our courses will coincide with other collections .

But if somebody can't afford it and they reach out to us , we will keep that confidential and we are offering scholarships , whether it's a one-time donation of $5 or a monthly donation . However you wanna do it , then we will take that out of the pot and allow these other individuals that just need a hand right now , because you never know , I know .

Speaker 1

I said hand .

Speaker 2

But you never know it could be your mom , your sister , your brother , you never know , and we want to make sure that we give everybody that

Becoming the Family "Black Sheep"

second chance , because you never know when dire straits could transpire .

Speaker 1

And that's what we want to help with , so we're not doing it to get rich .

Speaker 2

We're doing this to you we're definitely rich , that's true . Um , we're doing this to pay it forward and help others that need to be reminded how amazing they are . So , yeah , my husband is not going to be happy , but what ?

Our number one episode of the like 300 and I don't know however many that we've done , plus however many I've done separately , has been when you interviewed me about what I went through now . Is it easy ? No , even though I've talked about it for decades , it never gets easier .

It gets more tolerable because you become I become accustomed to it almost get like calloused over it and I had so many people come out and send messages to me and emails to me thanking me for being so raw and so vulnerable and so open , and I've done that better with you than the hundreds of people I've been on interviews with , as they've interviewed me about

it because it's you , I'm more comfortable like you're the only person who can touch my neck like if I , if my shirt is crooked or even if he just walked up . He is literally the only person that can touch my throat , and that's because , after being strangled and suffocated , I it's a trigger , but when my husband does it , it is not .

So just having him talk to me and talk about this has brought so many people out and thanked us for doing it . So I thought we would just kind of do a part two to talk about it and then tell everybody go to the . Academy . There are some free classes in every one of the collections so you can go and check out the mini academy courses as well .

Um , we just don't want anyone to ever go through this , because my husband and I have both been through our own types of abuse , where we have survived with partners and family , and we just don't want people to have to go through it alone or go through it at all , really . So my husband's giving me this . I love you , but I don't want to do it .

Look , and he gave me that the last time . But how about this ? We'll compromise . I won't ask you to read any of the book because the last time you did , you cried , but it is right there I know I'm not , I'm not gonna read it .

Speaker 1

So y'all , yeah , now I see the book . Y'all go on Amazon . Type in who Kicked First ? By Victoria Curie and her last name is spelled C-U-O-R-E Curie . Okay , who Kicked First ? By Victoria Curie ? It is her memoir of what happened during the eight months and possibly longer .

Speaker 2

Well , there's been more really that she was with that monster .

Speaker 1

you know , to me it's a horror story , but it's also , you know , a story about a hero who survives with the strength of her daughter at the forefront of her heart .

Speaker 2

Her daughter . That's her name .

Speaker 1

Her daughter . Wow , she's your daughter , Mrs Troll .

Speaker 2

No she openly says she's yours when she's bad and she's fine when she's fantastic .

Speaker 1

I tried to read a page on there one night y'all of her book Food Kick First , and it was like now you're false . My wife was triggered and I started crying because she was crying . It was just too emotional and I couldn't do it .

Speaker 2

Who has not read the book .

Speaker 1

Y'all be prepared . To me it's a hard read . The reviews have said it's a hard read . The tissue's ready . Nobody's been able to put it down .

Speaker 2

People triple lock their doors .

Speaker 1

We've had some producers say they want to turn it into a movie . We'll see . We got Tyler Perry down the road . We'd like to give it over to him . I would love . We'll see .

Speaker 2

We got Tyler Perry down the road We'd like to give it over to him .

Speaker 1

I would love , but yeah , get on there and check it out . Who Kicked First ? By Victoria Curate . So my wife went through hell for the eight months that she was buried to this monster . I wasn't buried for eight months .

Speaker 2

I was with him for eight months . Yeah right , it took me a while to get away from that .

Speaker 1

After , because of the medical and she was , If you , if you can name it , it was done to her . You know . She tells me instance where she will wake up with him straddling her just wailing on her face with his fist

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, Screaming at her to get up and get me a glass of water . Now , if you know anybody whose wires are crossed this bad , you need to get the hell away from them . Guys , if you see something you know with one of these ladies that have the telltale signs that there may be abuse , say something .

Speaker 2

Do something about it .

Speaker 1

Help them get out of that situation . Ladies , if you're in that situation , ask my wife for some advice . She's written classes , courses , she's got books out how to make your escape plan , how to start surviving after all of this , how to start thriving Thriving . You know she was there all by herself .

She had no one to turn to , no one to help her , because that narcissist and asshole had so much control and power over her that you know she could barely breathe . And a lot of survivors I'm not calling y'all victims . A lot of y'all survivors are probably the same way calling y'all victims a lot of y'all survivors are probably the same way .

Speaker 2

Well , there's a twist , if you will , to this is that I honestly own what I do and what I've done , and I agreed not to defend myself against him as long as he stayed away from my stomach . I was pregnant and he knew I had two black belts .

And he openly admitted In martial arts yes , he openly admitted that he would have never raised a hand to me if I wasn't pregnant . He knew that . But one of the first things you learn in any martial arts is de-escalation and you learn to fight , to flight . Right , that's the first thing get away from the assailant , get away .

but when you are literally straddled in your sleep , and being punched in the face that you're pregnant to go get some water . You know that's not how it goes , and so I made a deal that as long as he didn't hit my stomach- so that I could protect my daughter , that that I wouldn't fight him back .

But the whole time I was gathering proof , because I needed to not only get out and survive and thrive , I needed to make sure he couldn't be anywhere alone and alone with my daughter . The stories that he said he was incredibly charismatic .

He knew the buttons that needed to be pushed , if you will , metaphorically , in order to even have me consider this as something . I would have done , and it's awful , because if , for instance , the bed wasn't made the exact way , I would hear you know . Why do you make me do this ? Why do you make me do this ?

Speaker 1

Do you think I ?

Speaker 2

like doing this to you , and if the laundry wasn't done and put away like it's supposed to , then there would be a reason If dinner wasn't on the table at exactly a certain time or if there wasn't . He had severe OCD and in the beginning I thought it was a joke and it wasn't as predominant as it is now .

So I kind of thought things were funny when he would do stuff and like oh , I have to have three of this on my salad and I thought he was kidding , and then none of the food could touch .

And then if we were driving anywhere , he counted the clicks on the turn signal and if he turned and say it fell on an even number , he would do the turn signal again to get it to go to an odd number , and so that I just thought that was you , you know whoppers back then .

I mean , I was young I'm not saying anything against anyone with OCD but OCD wasn't a big , you know , predominant thing back then and I had no idea . And so control is an understatement . I couldn't go to the bathroom with the door shut . I was raised understanding that that's your private time , that's your time you go in there and it's your relaxation time .

You just don't barge in there . You know I . Multiple times he threw me in the bathtub . There were times he took my metal brush and beat me in the face with it . There were so many times and so many different incidences , and he testified that if he hit me once , he hit me 200 times .

And he also testified that if I cried , whatever he did , he would do it again . And so , literally , the judge told him you trained her to accept your hand Because , like an alcoholic , if you want to get drunk , you have to drink more than you're used to in order to be drunk .

And so I was stabbed over a dozen times , and so if he stabbed me and I showed any emotion , then he would stab me again , and when I would go to the emergency room I would say no to any

Victoria's Survival Story Begins

kind of medication because I didn't want it to go to my daughter . And so they would say but we got to give you hundreds of stitches and I'm like .

Speaker 1

Well , you know what .

Speaker 2

I didn't get any of the knife stabbed . I don't want them now because I was so petrified . I didn't want any of that in there and I try . I don't want to tell everything and I couldn't in an hour anyway . I did try at one point to leave the first time .

The average person goes back seven times but it's because they don't have the escape plan set up and ready to go .

Speaker 1

Go back to the abuser ?

Speaker 2

Yes , and he shot and killed our puppy to show what he would do if I tried to leave , and that just floored me . I mean , you're talking about a six-month-old , very healthy puppy and we ended up taking the dog to the vet the emergency vet and he made sure I didn't know where we were .

I was in a city area that I had never really been to ever in my life prior , and so he drove all these different ways around and whatever , and uh I had no idea where we were and he was so good at lying like it could be bright sunshine outside and he would make you think you're crazy .

And he would make you think there's a tomato like right behind you . He was so good at lying that you , you would just you know , when I got in there , I thought , oh my god , thank you , thank you , they're gonna call the police . This is , you know , a ? When I got in there , I thought , oh my god , they're going to call the police .

This is , you know , a felony . This is a felony , this is animal cruelty . We shot and killed our dog and they said you know , we have to call the police .

And he just stood there and he was just all of a sudden like just started the fake emotion and said , no , we've gone out to dinner and and if somehow they got , whoever shot him got in the backyard and they asked him if he had another dog and he did .

He had two and he was like , well , how come the other dog didn't get hurt and he just got like , uh , and then he said , oh , the other dog was in the house and it was just I couldn't believe that he was getting away with this .

And then he got away with everything , literally everything , and I was of the mindset that this really couldn't be , happening right like I could watch enough , or um , sleeping with the enemy , and think it's comical , like it's a comedy show and I'm not making light of anything , because I've always said one hit , one slap , one kick , it's one too many , it's never

a competition , it's just no . but when you literally , like I , started connecting with the evidence and I would go back and look at it because I really couldn't believe what I was seeing , I couldn't believe what I was enduring , because you just you can't fathom and think that you know they turn it on you . Why do you make us do this ?

This is we had just done what I told you to . This would never have happened . You know like he would follow me to my office but because of my job , I parked in the executive parking so he couldn't get in there .

I would have to call him from my office so he would see it on his phone that that's where I was , or he would call me , and it was just so suffocating . I felt like an asthmatic in a room of smokers with no windows or doors Craft and helpless . Yes and alone , Very much alone .

The only thing that gave me savior was my daughter who , when I would want to give up , would kick me to remind me she was there . My grandparents' memories I constantly thought of them and I always thought of Michael . I always thought of Michael and always thought of michael . I always thought of michael and I thought he killed me .

I never said I would never see my husband now again . And that was really really tough . And here I am and here you are now 25 years later well , 25 years later but yeah , we've known each other for a long time . Many decades .

Speaker 1

I met a couple today on my job and they said we just had our anniversary last week and we had 57 years together .

Speaker 2

Aww .

Speaker 1

And they were just like us , just each other up and their banter was comical . So it's going to be us In 57 years Old biddies , rocking chairs .

Speaker 2

Old biddies . Yes , my husband is trying to divert , he has to .

Speaker 1

I don't have to ask . Yes , you do . What is my question ? I have to ask , we have to talk about this . People need to know . Think about you know , people who have no idea what's going on .

Speaker 2

What is my question ? I have to ask . We have to talk about this . People need to know . Think about you , know people who have no idea what's going on .

They know where they're at , they know they want to get helpless , they feel lost , they feel like they have no control over absolutely anything and you know what , if they are cleaning the house and they have their earpods on and they're listening to this and they feel they have no one to go to , they have no one in their corner , okay , and they have questions ,

but they can't write . He watched everything I did . He checked every text message . He checked my browser history . He checked everything on the computer when he wasn't participating in disgusting things that I didn't know about . These sweet , amazing people need to know .

Speaker 1

One they're not alone .

Speaker 2

B this is not your forever .

Speaker 1

You did not deserve this and you do not have to stay in this and don't say it's because of the kids Don't say it's because of whatever , because let me tell you something and I can tell you firsthand If he's hitting you .

Speaker 2

It's a matter of time before he hits the kids takes it out on the animals , the pets and when I say animals , I don't mean your furry friends that are family members I'm talking about if they see an animal on the road , if they see a stray dog on the property or a stray cat on the property , because that happened too Like those are the things and you know

, like I said before , I own what I did . I was not perfect in regards to the fact I told him to go out with other women Because one he wasn't home beating me and I'm pregnant Not that that made a difference , because you shouldn't be beating on anyone . Anyway .

Also , he would be in the courting period where he would be trying to get somebody else on the side . And so I okayed him to go out and have another woman . I absolutely did , because then he wasn't home beating me , he wasn't at the house hurting me . If he's out with other people , then he's not out at home , beating me half to death .

And because I didn't consent .

Speaker 1

That makes sense .

Speaker 2

Because I did not consent for intercourse after the abuse he was sexually assaulting me and so if he would go and he had other people , then he could go and be with them and leave me alone , leave me and my child alone . So , yes , I absolutely told him go out , you know . You know , meet other people , have other women . That way you're not coming back .

And you know , pounding my face into a cabinet because you need three of everything and there's two and a third but you can't have a fourth . I mean these are how the things would be constantly . I mean , every single day felt like a lifetime . My favorite day of the week was monday because I was in the office .

I was always there bright and early in the morning , before everybody else , and I was always the last to leave so how can you mention that there's there's a lot of paper trail with electronic devices , social media .

Speaker 1

There is Okay , that's one thing , but how can they start their escape plan , how can they start their exit strategy without leaving that paper trail ? Well , there's a lot of things you can do , and I say this to survivors in that very situation from the , from the job .

Speaker 2

Let's say , you go to the store , like when I would go to the grocery store , I would go to walmart or wherever he . Well , and back then we had like the what is it ?

Speaker 1

the razor phones or the flip phone ?

Speaker 2

whatever it was right . So we didn't have smartphones like so I would have to bring a receipt or I would have to , or he'd see the bags or he checked the statements right , so I would go get everything now . I could never get anything for myself like I got chapstick once and this is the version .

I'm sorry , I got chapstick because I had very dry lips in the winter and I was a whore because I got chapstick . Chapstick . Really because I was a whore because I got chaps in Chaps in . Really Because I was a whore because I got it and he ended up throwing my face into a metal , Anyway .

So whenever I would go to the store and you go to checkout , it would ask do you want cash back ? I always took cash back and , depending on how much I bought at the store . So if I bought $180 at the , store . So if I bought , 180 dollars the store , then I would get 40 back . And if I had you know coupons or ? whatever .

Then I would use the coupons , not tell him and that money you know . I would say , oh , I've got coupons and you know whatever . And then he would make the difference , but I would always get money back .

And then what I would do is in the vehicle I had , it had a compartment in the back , nobody knew about , and I would make the difference , but I would always get money back .

And then what I would do is in the vehicle I had , it had an apartment in the back , nobody knew about , and I would stick the money in there little by little , and every time I would go I would get more money . And then it doesn't show an ATM withdrawal , it doesn't show a bank withdrawal . You know . It doesn't show any of that .

Also , you know I changed jobs and I negotiated my salary , and he did not know what I was making , and so he didn't know what I was really making , and so I took the difference in what I was making and put it in the account he had no knowledge of . So that also was another way , and I had it tagged to my bank card .

Um , but I would go to the grocery store , I'd go to the walmart or whatever and I would get money back . Then I would also get gift cards , uh say for gas , gas cards or like a walmart gift card or something like that , so that I would have those as well . And that was the way I started to get stuff together little by little . I had a gardener phone .

I got an extra charger because when I got back to the house it was another home . When I got back to the house , I wasn't allowed to have my phone and we didn't have a landline and he would take the car charger or the home charger too , so that I couldn't charge the phone . And if he beat me and he left , he took the phone and the car keys .

So I was helpless and without being able to call the doctor .

So I got a burner phone and I always backed in Because if I had to get out quickly I could not have to worry as much About trying to get out of the garage or the driveway or whatever , because I'm already backed in , so not have to worry as much about trying to get out of the garage or the driveway or whatever , because I'm already backed in .

So that's another option that you can do . But gather proof , gather evidence . One of the other things that I did at work was I would take screenshots of the text messages and I'm going to kind of be cryptic .

But he sent me a text message because I told him that I felt like a single mom right , and so he said all single moms are Satan's spawn and they should all effing die .

So I took screenshot and I uploaded it to an account a dummy account or like a Walgreens CBS or anything like and I put it into that place where you can go and have pictures developed and pick them up , right , and then I would delete any and all ever evidence of it so that they couldn't be found .

And that way I started to have proof that way as well .

Speaker 1

Did you take any documents out of the house or did you make photocopies of anything ?

Speaker 2

I did , I took documents out , I took photocopies out I went to a different financial institution than either one of us used and I opened a safe deposit box , told them what was going on and so I put , oh , that's good . I went in there and did that .

Speaker 1

Does the bank have some type type of you know clause or something ?

Speaker 2

now they can't no but any of it out to a spouse no , I didn't have them on as a signer and so um , and I had not gotten a new driver's license .

Speaker 1

Yet , even though you'd like 30 days .

Speaker 2

So I used my old one , I put it in my maiden name and I went in there and got that and then I started . Like my grandmother's already meant the world to me .

It still does , and so I I took things of that nature and I put it in the safe deposit box so that he couldn't destroy them , and then any paper evidence that I found I would take it and put it in there , or , if I thought he would look for it later , I would make a copy because we had a printer or copy machine , and I would take it and put it in

there , so that there was another way I was getting proof .

That way as well , I would slowly you have to do it kind of on the slow side know , make sure you make your house as as abuse proof as you can and I go into extreme detail about this in other places but , for instance , never keep things on step or the stairs ever when your kids are there , you tell them , no matter what you hear , you go far away or

run out and get help . Another thing is , if the abuser has a tendency to

Creating an Escape Plan

throw things at you like glass jars or glasses or things of that nature , slowly whenever they're broken , or you get clumsy , quote unquote and you break it by accident , then go to the dollar store and replace it with plastic , because plastic doesn't hurt as much as glass .

Um , I got rid of my metal hairbrush and got a plastic one and , like I didn't have any glass jars around , if I had , like marinara sauce to cook with or whatever , I would put them in tupperware containers and label them . Uh , I tried to get rid of any and all glass that I could , because it made a difference .

I started to slowly take the knives out of the house , you know , just little by little , and he wouldn't even let me have ice packs in the house for my injuries , so when I would get a black eye or a broken nose , or a busted face . I had to go into our bathroom and lay on the bathroom floor , because that was the only thing that was cold .

Speaker 1

He would you know , and there's a lot .

Speaker 2

You have to go back and think what are you going to put in the book ? What are you not going to put in the book ? What do you take out ? He would empty the ice out so that I couldn't put ice in a rag and put it on me . That was a big thing . You'd always make sure he emptied the ice out and he didn't just empty it in a sink .

He'd go throw it outside , in the backyard or whatever . So I couldn't just go pick it up and so I would have to lay on the bathroom floor for it to be cold to try to reduce swelling . If there are incidences and I'm so sorry if I'm triggering anyone , I'm trying not to , so I'm giving trigger warnings .

If there was incidences where blood was involved then he would leave and I'd have to have everything cleaned up before he got back , or it set him off again . It was a trigger for him if he came back and saw blood anywhere .

Speaker 1

So everything had to be clean y'all see why I don't want to talk about this , but it needs to be talked about . I'm sitting here looking at my beautiful wife , imagining her going through all that shit and you know there's nothing you can do about it now . It's all in the past .

Little did he know that he made one of the strongest warriors on this earth inadvertently not that I'm giving him any credit at all . Little did he know that he made one of the strongest employers on this earth inadvertently Not that I'm giving him any credit at all , but I don't see her chipping down oxys or hydros I never have .

Not only , in fairness , she doesn't do pain meds like you know everyone else does . You know she goes through surgeries . You know eyes wide open . You know they just tell her don't move . She's had so many surgeries done where she has not been under , not been twilighted or no pain meds afterwards .

Speaker 2

You've never seen me take a single pain med . I don't even fill the script .

Speaker 1

That's how I don't write a script . Extremely strong person . Well because you don't have a choice .

Speaker 2

And , like in martial arts , you train and then you spar because they want you to learn what it feels like to get hit . So you know . So I really think , if I didn't have my martial art training , I think I'd be in a different place , because I kept telling myself you know , it's just a fight , it's just a fight .

Speaker 1

We're sparring , you know , and I know that's a mental trick , but you have to do what you can at that moment to survive , like you just have to .

Speaker 2

And I never wanted to tell you anything because I didn't want it to affect my daughter , like I just didn't want it to affect her . And so I got to that point . Well then , after the last time he put in icu and she was starting to come early .

I just you know she had medical issues and so because of that I had to wait and if anything I had wasn't life-threatening like I had a broken foot , I had fingers , I had a man , I had this elongated shoulder . My nose wasreatening like I had a broken foot .

Speaker 1

I had broken fingers .

Speaker 2

I had a man . I had a disorganized shoulder , my nose was broken , blah , blah , blah blah . I had a blood clot , you know , you name it . Then I chose not to get those things fixed , which was my choice , because I needed to be there for her .

I couldn't be laid up somewhere else trying to recuperate when my daughter's fighting for her life , coding every day , having multiple seizures every day and a NICU , and I am alone with no help or support . So I had no choice , so I did and I understand that a lot of my surgeries are because I waited for so long . I take responsibility for that .

Could they have just done something back in the day to fix my shoulder , probably ? But , I waited until she was decannulated and her trach had been removed before , because I had to end up getting a full shoulder replacement .

And when you're carrying around a suction machine and a pulse ox monitor and you know oxygen tank and emergency bag and backup traits and the feeding . I mean , you name it and you're doing all this by yourself . To hell with how you feel you're a mom .

That first responsibility , and only responsibility , is my child and I need to be able to get in there if there's an occlusion and you know , she has a granuloma and whatever the case may be , and so I waited , and I understand that exacerbated the need for additional medical intervention , but I wasn't going to do it with any kind of pharmaceutical assistance and

this is why I say that your daughter , our daughter now

Speaker 1

my daughter is and was at the time , still is the strength at the forefront of your heart . She's a badass , Because you put her there . She was there and she helped get you through all this .

Speaker 2

And she says the same thing , which I just think is crazy she's a little mean to you .

Speaker 1

I tell her that all the time you were just like your mother . Thank God . And she said damn right .

Speaker 2

I think one of the funniest things she said was literally . I mean she's been spunky from the jump . But we were walking around the grocery store one time and she said to me I mean she also knew sign , because she was unable to be audible because of the trach she had . And then she was diagnosed with apraxia , which she has overcome , like everything else .

and she looks at me in the freezer section and she puts her little hands on hips and she goes mom you made a seriously kick-ass daughter with some ugly spare parts and at first I thought she meant her , sure , and I was like what do you mean , ugly spare parts ? Thought she meant her sure , and I was like what do you mean ? Ugly spare parts ?

And the only thing I ever told her was that that makes her mom like I didn't go into anything specific . She didn't need to know . She's a kid , right ? I'm not going to tell her any of that , and I was a single parent for a very , very long time , and so I asked her what that meant , and so she knew that it took a mom and a dad to have a kid .

That's all she knew , right now , oh lord please don't ask her now , but she knew back then it took a mom and a dad to have a baby . And when she's walking around she looks at me and said I made a kick-ass kid with ugly spare parts . You know any medical mom is gonna be like what do you mean ? Why do you say that , you know ?

And she's like no , I'm not him and she didn't even know that . Like he was the inside of a hemorrhoid ugly physically . But what a lot of people don't realize is that when she was in the womb she recognized his voice and she would become tachycardic when she would hear his voice .

And when I went to court they had a recording of his voice and I have the picture , because they took a picture of this and when they played the recording . She wasn't even two and a half years old . She the horror . Look on her face . She looked like she was in such fear when she heard that recording and I have the picture . She remembered the voice .

But then , all of these years , while I was a single mom .

Speaker 1

I always told her there was only one person that I would ever allow to be her father , her dad .

Speaker 2

Anybody

Gathering Evidence Against the Abuser

can do two pugs in a bush and impregnate somebody , right . Anybody can do that . That doesn't make you a daddy , that doesn't make you a father right . It makes you a sperm donor . So I told her there's only one person that I would ever , ever allow that position , that role , and it's Michael .

And we were only friends and you know we spoke off and on and his disgusting , tyrant , nasty second wife you know , got nasty with me and I reminded her that I had him before her and if I wanted him now , I'd have him again , but I'm not going to be the other woman .

So when this marriage ended and I reminded her , that it would , then I'll come back and get him , and so I waited for them to be done , and then we got back together . But , what was so sweet is that my husband asked my daughter's permission to marry him . And ask permission .

That's what I'm watching you trying to go to sleep on me and it's my back certainly , I work all day hold on . You were home by 3 pm . Well , I worked all day . No , no , no , no , no , no .

Speaker 1

Dave , I'm a hard worker . Look at these hands Just wrought with calluses , calluses , oh yes .

Speaker 2

You got more calluses than I do so what does that say ?

Speaker 1

How the hell does that ?

Speaker 2

happen . I work 20 hours a day .

Speaker 1

Sitting on your butt up here on the computer . You close your mouth , you get some flies .

Speaker 2

From the shit you're talking Serious Really .

Speaker 1

You went from serious to jovial , like a light switch .

Speaker 2

Because you're with me Okay . Because you're with me Okay , because you're with me .

Speaker 1

And I was the only man to be the father of your daughter . That's right , I wouldn't let anybody else . Boy , what a pain in the ass she is to me . I mean , I love that kid to death .

Speaker 2

She still got you wrapped around her little Bullshit , you Really .

Speaker 1

Don't do it .

Speaker 2

Tell them how we're always on the same page . We're always on the same page . No , you gotta give an example . An example so sweet . An example , twice today alone .

Speaker 1

The last time my wife called me here about two something .

Whatever she the phone ring , as my finger was no more than I'd say a couple millimeters away from dialing her number from from hitting her on my , on my phone pad best examples our wedding right a couple years ago what I describe it , because I forgot what , what , where you and I decided we're we do different rings every year and like oh , what are we going

to do this year ?

Speaker 2

We're like , we don't know , we don't know . So we both look separately and then we show each other and it's the exact same ring .

Speaker 1

That's your soulmate going .

Speaker 2

And then the dog . What about the dog with the amputated leg ? No way .

Speaker 1

I was just scrolling through Facebook seeing if anyone else wished me a happy birthday other than our other daughter . There was just a picture of an amputated old sailor with a monkey doing something . He had two peg legs , this old guy , a really old sailor . My wife shows me a picture of a dog with an amputated leg .

Speaker 2

Now , in fairness , I couldn't see what you were looking at . Yeah , I had no idea what you were looking at .

Speaker 1

So we're both just , you know , looking at , not that you know that was the topic of the evening . It's just coincidence . It's just things like that happen all the time with her and I .

Speaker 2

Yes , let me guess what you want to go take 10 ?

Speaker 1

No , I've got some items to take out of the van . Uh-huh , and I'm going to do a little clean up and then I'll cook y'all our dinner .

Speaker 2

I have your dinner ready for you . I got you what I'm about to have , what , what I cook for you all the time . What are you talking ?

Speaker 1

about I'm the only one who doesn't make the fire alarm go off . You know that . A couple thought it was sweet saying that I bring you breakfast in bed .

Speaker 2

It's very sweet for you to defrost frozen waffles .

Speaker 1

yes , Woman , you can left it alone , okay .

Speaker 2

But you're sitting here saying I don't cook you dinner ever ?

Speaker 1

I didn't say that ever . That's a lot of silence that's a lot of silence .

Speaker 2

You're so ridiculous , you're like babe no , you do so much , I bring you breakfast every day awful and tea . Okay , hold on hold on when you and cutie Patootie have father-daughter movie night every time , what am I doing ?

Speaker 1

Working .

Speaker 2

And when you take your 18-hour naps , what am I doing ?

Speaker 1

the whole time , I don't know . I'm asleep , I get up and things are rearranged .

Speaker 2

So I'm cleaning .

Speaker 1

Or working .

Speaker 2

Right . So on average , how many hours a day do I work ? I don't know I'm cleaning or working , right ?

Speaker 1

So on average , how many hours a day do I work ? I don't know , I'm not here , I'm working . Oh touche huh .

Speaker 2

No , not when you're sleeping . No , no .

Speaker 1

You said on average .

Speaker 2

Okay , on a weekend .

Speaker 1

On a weekend , sure , I don't know about 10 plus a day , ken .

Speaker 2

I'm not going to have this Seriously .

Speaker 1

Don't call the dog . Stuck was right there .

Speaker 2

I can't believe you .

Speaker 1

All right , so I won , you lost .

Speaker 2

This man . When he plays cards with me and I lose the hand , he says , oh , you're upset because you lost your hand , your hand . Or if we go to a store , he's like look , it's half off like you . These are all things that he does because he thinks he's all you know when you'll go get in the jacuzzi what am I doing ?

Speaker 1

working okay so well , that's not fair right now , because you have stitches .

Speaker 2

My stitches are gone .

Speaker 1

No , they're still on your back .

Speaker 2

Well , they're in your back , they're dissolving , but I cannot I'm not cleared to do anything or submerge any of this in my back for another three weeks .

Speaker 1

So

Making the Home "Abuse-Proof"

let me , let me I still can't say it reiterate you did it , say opioids no . Who Caked First by Victoria Piroletti , because I ain't reading that dang book y'all , and I dare y'all to read it , okay , and the wife put out there if y'all want to help us out , then contact us . The bottom of the webpage it says contact us .

Speaker 2

Well , it also says buy me a coffee on the website .

Speaker 1

I'm just talking about help actual help , Because there's some stuff on the web design and different things that my wife is not properly trained on . She has to learn all this herself and she's incredibly talented and smart and she's built some dynamic , amazing platforms and all this crap . It's crap . Well , you know what I'm talking about .

No , no , if y'all want to help out , because this is , you know , only a two-man show up in here .

Speaker 2

Oh , you're talking about faith .

Speaker 1

Y'all reach out to her and say hey , I think I can help you out a little bit , but y'all can buy her coffee anytime . You have my permission . Permission , they can buy you coffee , but you're taking , you're solid with me , you're my soulmate , I love you . How many ever say to my wife Thank you for listening to Unstoppable with Michael and Victoria .

Goodnight y'all .

Speaker 2

Click in recording what do you want me to do click in recording ? Why would I want to do that ?

Speaker 1

woman turn this thing , off , click the button now . When off , hit the button .

Speaker 2

Now .

Speaker 1

How do you get the button ? Oh , goodbye .

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