Rivers to the Rescue

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Cast and Dogs ninety four feet podcast, Your boy Bixek in the building. I heard my brother Dre ninety four feet Nation was good with it, excited to be back for another show. It's good as you know, this is the two out of the three here. Somebody had something more important to do with that's neither here nor there. How is going? It's good man, you know it's I'm glad it's not so cold. Man. It's been cold man, It's just has been a

heat with it. Literally, like I finally turned my heat off. Like I have electric heat and I live upstairs. So if you know anything about living upstairs, heat rises and electric heat, right, you can turn it on and you're and it's hot in a matter of minutes. So I haven't used heat for the last four days. So uh, we energies. I'm sure they're somewhere pretty upset right now because they've been killing the last couple of weeks. Man. So well, I was just gonna say they're gonna get

all that money? Well, I mean, for like, I got my bill, and you know I live in a one bedroom apartment, right, no big secret there. My bill cut off I think it was like last week and it became it was like one hundred and twelve dollars. I never used so much heating by life, bro, because I'm a hot box man. I sleep with a fad all right. But uh, I'm glad it's it's cooling off a little bit, man. So it's been good. Man, I'm good. I'm I'm happy. You. How you doing, brother?

You look a little sleepy, man. It's a little turning, uh little under the weather. But man, first of all, it's the season. It's a cold. You ain't walking around with the dead. You're good. I'm just saying, colds are our sickness too. You know you could have threw a mask off. You could have called in I'm here, yeah somewhat. You know I'm here. I made I made the that true true toe and because I'm dedicated, but you know, I don't need to get

going. It look like some cough sirt b That's what it looks Texively, it looked like do you watch power so you know that look like some league And then you mixed it, bro, watch too much? Man. That was kirk ole Ban. That that was that kirkle Bands. Anyways, going to the injury report Dre. Yeah, Boston Celtics are without Porzingis ain Ko day to day. The Mavericks are without Kyrie Irvin. He is out with a thumb injury. I swear he's out more than he plays. I just

you saying it about everybody. But he's on your fantasy team. He's on my fantasy team. He's doing trash like my team. He's your fantasy team every year. Well, this year our auto draft for the first time, because the two people in my league that had auto draft won second place two years in a row. But now I'm doing worse. Listen, I'm about done with everything n B but my season tickets and and close to being done with those. If they don't if they don't stop raising the prices, okay,

but we gotta pay three coaches. But we'll get to it when we get to it. I'm just saying, we gotta pay three Who else is who's paying for it? Us? The kids? Oomer uh. The New York Knicks are without Julius Rando. He has a dislocated right shoulder. I saw that game. I would bet he's probably done for the season. No, yeah, it wasn't it. They said it wasn't as bad as it looked, okay, because I was gonna say that was a pretty ugly hit.

And we talked to We got on the shoulder rant last week, that shoulder and and and and and Uh, ironically, the next day, my shoulder was hurting a whole week. Was hurting the whole week. Gotta stop sleeping on two pillows. It affect so much. Uh. The Sixers are without their up and coming superstar, my man Tyrese Maxie, who better be an All Star. He is out with an ankle injury dating day and b left knee day to day. Interesting note about Mbid, he and Joker.

It's kind of following the lebron kd thing. And what I mean by that Embiid hasn't played in Denver in six years. He hasn't played in six years. And the other note, I don't know if this is on your docket, but it's important to know about these injuries. The hard stance that the NBA is taking. If he misses five more games, he's not eligible for any season awards, including MVP. You know what's funny, including MVP. I did not know that well. I knew about we we talked about the

rule change, and we all agreed they'd be like it. I didn't know if Beid had missed that much. But if that is the case, that would be a tragedy. And to be honest with you, I think he will make the NBA take another look at it. I don't think it will. I think it's I think it will make players stop coddling some of these injury. But that's true too, that's true. But what I'm saying, like bron out there forty balling out, don't do that. Step out there

at almost forty balling out. If they can do it and be suit up and play ten minutes, I was wanna say this. We're not gonna talk about the Battle of the Losers. We ain't. That was a great game. It was still the Battle of the losers anyway it was it was it not the battle of the losers. The Phoenix Suns are thought Nurkics with a thumb injury. Day to day. You will not call step current loser in my presence, I'm sorry. Does he not have a losing record this year?

His team has a losing a losing team the Golden State. Isn't he a part of the team they're playing for playing out of the team. They are playing for playing, which is why he was so a losing battle to battle the losers ain't gonna time for that. So we're gonna go around. We're gonna get to the shoot around. When we talk about news n b A news around the NBA, rumors, trade talks on and so forth. The Miami Heat have acquired Terry Roseier from the Charlotte Hornets in exchange for Kyrie

Lowry Kyle Lowry in a twenty twenty seven first round pick. What did you think of this trade? All right? So for me, I think personally it's a win for Miami simply because Kyle Laurie is washed. I say, I hate to say that, you doesn't I did. Kyle Laurie is washed. When you start getting traded to the more uncompetitive teams in the NBA,

you're starting to see that your season is ramping up. In fact, I'll make a bold prediction Charlotte will try to trade him again before the deadline, or they'll buy him out and he could go to a contender and give three or four points off the bench. But I think Kyle Lawry's obviously his best days are way behind him, and I think his NBA career is coming to an end. Usually I am a draft pick. I am a big protector

of DRAFTI you're a big advocate for draft picks. But in twenty twenty seven, these kids are in high school right now, right, so it's hard to know what they're going to be. But also, Miami has been good enough that a late first round draft pick has done nothing for him, right, meaning they don't I mean they don't pick they got I can't think of

his name right now. The Latino guy he has been balling out. I don't know if he's a first round draft pick though, but I'm saying that to say that they don't never pick high enough to get a superstar caliber player. They'll get a decent player. So I'm okay with this. I like what Miami Heat did. I like this. Charlotte once again acknowledge that they'll be at the bottom of the NBA's pool this year. You might as well shut down lametal lamellow ball and not risk further injury. Kyle, he got

his championship. He has two, right, he has a two? Or one? He has one? He got his championship with Toronto, went over to Miami and got paid. Uh, but his career is on the Domard spiral and it's near the end, so good for Miami. I don't know how Rod is gonna fit in Miami stacked. They're not at the point guard well, I mean, yeah, I guess, so, I guess. But he's just gonna start or come off the bench, not over tie the shooting guards, Jimmy Butters small small there. They need. They need somebody

who can not run the floor. They just need somebody young. I thought this was, like you said, this is a way for Kyle to get to a more competitive team and all. So this is Miami to get some young people there because they always aiming for like a superstar, but nobody's been coming there lately. So I think this is nice, a nice piece. I think he's gonna finish. I think Terry's gonna fit in pretty well with him. He's been wanting to go to if you social media, he's been

one to be in Miami for actually a minute. With these kind of trades. I always think that, especially when there's a buyout involved, and I can't actually can't wait for the buyout market to come along. Do you think the Bucks should pick up Kyle. I think we should. I think we should. No, why not? Number One, we have a new coach,

so that's already a growing pain we have to deal with. If our two players are on the trading block, which are Pat and one other player, I believe Cameron Paine Kyle Laurie does nothing to make the Bucks better, not one single thing, not one I wanted. Not. That's what I'll say to that. That's what I'll say to that. I'm always I think one of the things the Bucks are missing is a dog. We did talk about that, and I think especially in the guard position, I think Kyle

can do that. He doesn't have to shoot a lot, he doesn't have to be you know. I think I think you put Kyle in a position where he doesn't have to score and he is effective in other ways. I think that's where he comes into play at As far as the Bucks go, we need somebody that can, you know, kind of get down with it, especially with we're trying to make a championship run, which is what we're trying to do. And we'll get into that later in Bucks talk. But

I feel like veterans like this can still bring something to the table. I don't see why we can't like fit them in somewhere because the people that we have, like we need an upgrade in at that position, in the back court positions. So having somebody like that, a veteran who can even like run the offense, so you know, I will say this thing about Kyle is that he's not a great jump shooter recently, but it can possibly change. I've never known Kyle to be a great jump shooter. I've known him

to be a spotty shooter, so spotty shooter. If you're adding Kyle to your team, you're not adding him with the understanding that he's gonna help scoring, right, You're not even adding him for IQ. You're almost adding him for a roster spot. Kyle has nothing to contribute anymore. I think it's over, and it's okay for it to be over. I think it's done. I mean, just just listen to some of his his his stats here, real quick, two points, two rebounds, twenty five minutes with the

shooting. I'll get the full stats in one second. Two points three rebounds, four points, three point three rebounds, two points, four rebounds, zero points, zero points, zero points. And this is when he's averaging twenty five to thirty minutes a game. I'm gonna, like I said, I'm not expecting him to come in and shoot averages. He's averaging twenty eight minutes eight points a game, which is which is a stretch his season average

eight points a game, which is a lie bield goal percentage. He's shooting forty two percent three point percentage. He' shooting thirty eight percent, which I then again, I think he's a lie. He is. Let me see zero zero zero zero. He is zero for twenty four over his last eight games from the three point line. Rebounds, He's averaging three assists for steals one. He's at one steal the last ten games. So Kyle Lowry is

not There are a lot of players who are not signed. There are a lot a lot of players who we can trade for that are way better than Kyle our past our past. This discussion came up. I think it's from Twitter from Kevin Durant. He was he put himself no, he said, well, I don't. I'm okay, real quick, I don't know. I do know this conversation came from k D and I also know it came from Twitter and He was just like, why am I not in the goat

discussion? And what do else do I have to do? Now? He said this, and the floodgates opened the good I do want to say that to me, I think two things. Gilbert Reena said something out that kind of like brought it in for me. He said, Number one of the goat debate is a debate. It's two people. It's about two people. It is usually Michael Jordan and Lebron James. Now, who depends on who

you're talking to. Some people could say Michael Jordan, Kobe. Some people say Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, so on and so for blah blah blah. But it's always two people. Now, if you talk about a goat discussion or a conversation, that's a little different. That's when that three, four and five come in. That to me, if someone weren't, you say, KD is in the goat discussion or conversation, I would hear them out. And the thing about it is he has the stats and the statistics

to be in that conversation. It's just that it's hard for somebody who, to me, who honestly knows basketball, who's not just a fan to put him in that conversation. So let me ask you this. I got two questions. Two part question for you, is he in the goat conversation? And no? Yeah, is he in a goat conversation? And we'll start with part one. Is he in a gold conversation? For you? No, you don't want to do you want to expound on that or you just

want to keep it, keep it playing it. I mean, the bottom line is Kevin Durant joined the best team in the last thirty years. He joined the best team in the last thirty years. That put him out in the conference finals. That that, right there is one. He's done nothing to prove that he can carry or take a team to a title. That's number two. Uh, he's two and two in the finals, like Lebron is four and ten in the finals. Right, he's two in two in the finals. So fifty to fifty, he's not even top for me,

he's not even in my top ten all tip. So to be in a goat conference sation disrespectful. No, it's not. I can easily name ten players that are that I will put over him, over him, all time, all time, all time, continue, because he's a top seventy five. He's a top seventy five, and so it is Dame Lillard and he's done nothing either. Right, I'm just saying, if you look at the top seventy five, listen, the top seventy five is in the eye of

the beholder. No, I'm saying that this is gonna say about that. And this is why I was huffing and puffing because these do nothing conversations. It's people get accolades and then we're like, well, what has this person done. Let's look over their resume, and then it depends on how you feel about that person, how you code it. I feel like somebody like, if the only thing that we're holding against KD, how many championships does he know? I'm not done. I'm not finished, and I'm not holding

him joining the Warriors. He hasn't let any team to a title, even though he's had the best lineups the past ten years. He has I will He's had stacked teams and has not led them to a title. He's not a leader. He's not a batman. He's not a superman. I mean, he's a prolific scorer. Absolutely, He's a closer. He has clutch Jeans. But KD is no Michael, He's no Lebron, He's no Steph Curry, he's no Magic, he's no Shaq. There's five right there,

Okay, he's none of those. He's no Kareem. They're six. He's no Tim Duncan. That seven, right, there's seven players that I would take in a goat debate over KD twice on Sunday. He's no Hakeem Elijahwan. Okay, Keim was a killer. You better ask them about I say saying that when it goes down, KD will be one of the best player from his position, arguably the best to play his position. He's a small forward, right, so I arguably him and Scotty Pippin tip for tat.

I might go with Scotty because Scotty actually played defense. He's one defensive players of the Year. Right, He's six and on the finals. Right. And Scotty at least carried his team after the Bulls to one game shy of the conference finals. He couldn't get it done, right, he couldn't get it done, but he took his team there. Kevin Durant has yet to take his team anywhere after losing and blowing a three to one lead to the Golden State Warriors. KD, you are a great player, but you are

not in the goat debate and you never will be. I'm gonna just sit here and say this. I'm gonna say I totally agree with everything Dre said, but I agree I agree with a lot he said. I don't think I to me, KD is in my top ten, but I think that I'll say this, with all Golden State, he probably wouldn't have any championships. Ain't no problem, I'm sorry, ain't no kids, don't use or

ain't no probably to it? No, probably to it. And they got lucky because never mind, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, ahead, go ahead. They got lucky because KD would have three if he didn't get injured. Okay, but if he stayed with OKC, they would still be here now talking about who's the problem, him or Russ. We blamed Russ and saw KD try to lead a team and couldn't lead a team. Kd's on his fourth team. Goats don't be on their four for fifteen.

Okay, Michael did it with one team. We're gonna skip those Wizards here. Lebron did it with Cleveland, Miami, went back to Cleveland, and then went to the Lakers. At the live at end of his career, KD was in his prime, flip flopping from team the team. Goats don't do that if he wants the goat crown. Here's how I would put him in the goat debate. Again. I'm saying, arguably the best player in his position, small forward of all time, arguably Scottie Pippen. Like I

said different that I'm gonna go with Scott Kevin Durant. If he was to go back to OKAC and deliver them a title, I would then consider him in the goat debate, but he would still be behind Steph and Lebron and Michael. Not even name Kobe, I mean name Kobe, because Kobe for me is not Kobe for me is not in the goat debate either. This was in his life and in his death. Rest in peace, Kobe. Kobe was a great player, but he is not in my goalt conversation.

The goat conversation, when it comes down to it is between Lebron James. I'm sorry, it is between Michael Jordan and Lebron ja. It's debatable. No I'm saying, I gotta have a follow up. It's debatable, but Kevin Durant, you're not considered. Okay, go ahead, I mean no, hey, go off, Stephen B go off. I mean, like I said before, I mean I hate to I hate for it to be like this, To be honest with you, is because Katie's a great player,

great shoot, great shooter. He's one of the all excuse me, top seventy five, like he he fifty fifty ninety fifty forty ninety guy I think a couple of times, and like he is one of the greatest players of all time. Unfortunately, the decisions that he's made has put this cloud over him where he's not in that conversation. And like you said, if

he was to go back to Okay See, he has to. I will say this, he does have to right his wrongs, and one of his right and his wrong will be going to Kate Okay See and then winning the championship there. And I think, to be honest with you, this is never gonna happen. Though I don't think it's gonna happen, but I think it's it's not gonna happen because he is still trying to quote unquote lead a team. And if he were to go to Okay, see right now,

he was playing second fiddle to s KA I mean s GK. I mean Ant had to do it to Kyrie. No, he didn't. He he came in and he was king, he was king. But Kyrie still ran that offense. If Marie doesn't steal that ball, it's still Lebron, John, thank you. No trying to give it No, no, no, Because I like Lebron. The difference is I'm objective when it comes to Lebron. I like Lebron, but the bottom line is Lebron as clutch as he can be. He does the first way too much to be a superstar.

He and I will say this, The thing about Lebron is his presence. You have to adjust to him. He makes it for better, he makes people bad. But that's the whole other conversation. But my thing is this. But I think it's this, Like I said before, it's to me is hard because I like, I genuinely like KD. I genuinely like him.

I like he's not with the Warriors Jesus Christy. But it makes the decisions he's made in his career has put him in this position, and so until he leads the team to a championship or go back to Oka see and and go to a championship there, it's not gonna happen. This is not gonna happen. Agreed. Let me ask you this question though. Yeah, here's here's my other question going about this discussion. Got said before you have a debate where you got two people Michael Jordan, Lebron James. But then

you have a discussion where it brings in three, four five. Mount Rushmore is four people? Yep? Who is on your Mount Rushmore of goats? Okay? I always can you always say I tapped dance. I prefaced this by saying I started watching basketball in the late eighties. I was about seven or eight years old. I start understanding basketball in nineteen ninety ninety one, so still under ten. So I'm gonna go from based on being a fan from nineteen ninety one to present. Okay, really quickly, this is your

list, brother, you ain't got the zil. But I think it's fair to say that because as you mature in sports talk, you learn that certain debates will never get you anywhere. For example, y'all know I work with a lot of college students right in their twenties, young teens, right, I'm about twenty years older than them. I don't debate sports because they've never

seen Michael play. They've barely seen Kobe play, right, so they have what they're They can't say Michael is their goat because they never seen them play. All they have is highlights and really really popular sneakers. So what I'm going to say is based on nineteen ninety one to present. What is that twenty eleven, thirty years of watching basketball? The Mount Rushmore is led by Michael Jordan Okay, easy, Lebron, James, Tim duncan, say it,

say it and keep it moving, Shaquille O'Neill. Really, there's only four people on Mount Rushmore and those are the four. Now, if you said to me, well, we're gonna like if we want to do some no no, no. If we wanted to do some dictator stuff like a former president and throw another person on there and say there's gonna be five people on Mount Rushmore, then I would add Steph Kurky. But since there's only four Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Tim duncan, and Shaquille O'Neill.

I'm surprised by the answer. What are yours are Michael Jordan's Yep. Now, I'm gonna say it, Michael Jordan's Oscar Robertson. That's just those two personal and then I'm gonna go Steph Curry Wow Wow. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Shaquilla meo wow. And give yourself a hand. I'm giving you permission to give yourself a hand. Tone, come to the mic for a second, because I don't want people to hear you screaming in the FI.

Yes, come to the mic, though, because you want to hear it loud, and we want to hear it clearly on the table, not from paper people. Yeah, and you've been watching basketball since the seventies, right, I don't want to I don't want to aid you. But in the mic. So Tone has been a basketball guy since the eighties, but was born in the seventies, so he understood it a little bit, right. So give us your ford. We just want your four you can and

you can get back to what you were doing. Who is your four mile rushmore j M J bron Yep, Magic m So And it's a it's a toss up with me between Kareem and Will Hm because I was looking at some old old Wilt Chamberlain stats and his stats are so NBA took is because of the era he lived in. He had an insane quad double that I don't even believe in real, but the fact that he revolutionized the way I'm a

backup. I'm not gonna put I'm not gonna put Kareem on there, and I'm not gonna put Will put Doctor J real Doctor J inspired Mike, Right, you wouldn't he really He's the first person to bring this freakball aspect into the league because there would be no ABA if there was no Doctor Jack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so again I'm going to respond to a viewer that just typed in and said, interesting, no Magic. Remember my perspective is from ninety one on up. I got to appreciate Magic once in

the NBA Final. What do number one? Don't defend your stuff. I will say this. I'm not defending, but I'm responding to a comment. I watched Magic one time and he was great. He was absolutely great. But Magic's career was not better than Michaels. It was not better than Lebron's We're not just talking titles. It was not better than Tim Duncans. It was not better than shacks. Where did y'all p so much? Now? And the reason why I'm bringing at that specifically because next to John Stockton,

levery Bird has been the white boy of the league. Now, going back to Dre's not everybody's been around to see certain people. Me and one had a conversation that when you talk about the top fifty, it was done during the timeframe that was pre Lebron, So most cats who were in the fifty

back then would most definitely not be in the fifty now. And that's so true that they end up extending into the top seventy five because you know, if certain names fell out that list, regardless of what the order they was in there, people will have a fit. I thought they just added, you technically do add. That's why I went from fifty to seventy five. But let's be honest, the top ten in nineteen ninety is not the top ten and two. Oh yeah, that's definitely true. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. Yeah, because with him bringing up magic, uh huh, no, magic, that's interesting. Well, you really can't put Magic in the conversation with conversation. That's true. Here's my question, here's my answer for that, here's my answer for that. I'm not, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna sit here because my thing is this your listens, your list like our listeners said my thing about Magic Johnson on top of bird. That's one perspective of it, like you can't put one in without

the other. And then some would say the same thing without with Lebron, like you can't put Lebron in without put without putting Steph in. But my thing about that is and to me, to me, my my four on my route Mount Rushmore are the people who who captivated this game and we haven't seen anything like it since. To me, Michael Jordan is something. He turned the whole world. He turns basketball into something that it wasn't all the time. To me, now, Oscar Robertson is somebody that I didn't see

play basketball like that because he was in the seventies and sixties. But to me, having an averaging a triple double for a season and then it hasn't been done for what twenty eight thirty years until Russell Rustbrook did it. Something like that is just so phenomenal, and so Russell because because he did it first, Russell did it after. So it's one of the things like even after Russ do it, I don't know if it'll be ever done another thirty

years. Like So that's that's my whole point of that. And then I said, I said, Steph just because he took the game to a whole nother level somewhere that it hasn't been before, just for his position alone. And then on top of that, now Shack again, somebody we haven't seen to this day shoot what he does for his position. So that's why my four is my four. I don't I don't take in consideration like stats and well you have to take a stattic because it's racis, but championships and stuff

like that, because Oscar Robertson only has the one maybe two. So I just think that those four guys, to me and my opinion, took the game to a whole nother level. Now, Magic Johnson did, and like I said, if we were doing five, I probably would put Magic in there. But the thing about Magic and Bird, I would say this Bird, maybe because he was white, didn't captivate audiences like magic, did he He did, hold on second, hold hold on second, though, to

the point, to the point, his first name is not magic. But you when the last time you heard somebody say Irvin? Okay, okay, number one. Until the introduction of the ABA incorporated into the NBA, NBA was pure white. Okay, it was Bob's white as his damn table. Okay. But the thing about it is is once people like La and Bird and all then was dominating the league. They were looking for their white hope, their white savors, their person that can ball. Larry Bird and the

Boston Celtics was a prime example of what organized NBA basketball looked like. When I tell you, people in Boston would riot over that boy, okay, he he he. I don't care to. I'm not a person who judges you by your color. I judge you by your skill. I have my moments where I don't like certain people who just happened to be of a color.

Okay, but I don't judge you by that. But but when it comes to Bird, his game was unstoppable, bro, he was so you there would not be a big interest in the NBA if you did not have that l A Boston rivalry and that La Boston rivalry existed because of Bird. LA was stacked back then. La La has always been somewhat stacked. Boston has never really been stacked until they did the Peers KG years and even then that's still a questionable stack. But Bird was it was Bird. It was

it was and dudes, it was Bird and some dudes. I'm ask you a question though, because what I said was words are important. Is that I said Magic captivated? Which is you know, brought audience? Like who is this dude behind the back loop? The loop and such and such and such? Like you said, the boy themselves is very fundamental. They know how to play the game. They're how to play it right. It was

Bird a bunch of dude. But I just feel like with Bird, Magic and the whole show time, it was like, Okay, I ain't never seen them. You ain't never seen You want to know the reason why Magic caught everybody's attention On a pretty stacked team. You had a six to eight point guard out the door. It's already Uh, what is this dude doing. You're talking about a league where a certain size automatically put you in. You too, had a whole conversation about if you under sixty three, you

can't be a shooting guard. Yeah you did, you did, so now you can't guard a shooting guard. That was in relations to Bronnie James, who is about six stree like a year, a season or two ago. I remember this. Yeah, y'all had a whole little argument about the height of a shooting guard because I guess it was all start weekend, and y'all was talking about how certain people were been putting on certain levels, like he

too short to be a shooting guard. Yeah it was step, it was I had a new step but that but that's the proven point, Like, we have a certain height requirement and a skill set that is tied to point guards. And here's this six' eight dude who could technically be in any position or running the floor. Let's see what he does. Whereas in you had a Boston Celtics team who literally went out there and dominated the game.

Because you gotta remember, let Larry Bird came in after this thirteen championship run. Boston Celtics was rebuilding, and just like Lebron and Carmelo, Bird and Magic came out the exact same time, so they were the instant comparison. So you can't do magic without doing bird bro converts even bought like, look, we give you a shoe, We're gonna give you the same shoe too, but it's gonna be two different colors, and we're gonna see what shoe

sells better. Is that not what they did? Shoo? What was your what was greed? We live with a color waves, a colorway, but they gave you the same shoot. Yeah, so so they even they know marketing. Why y'all two go together. Yeah. So I'm gonna say this about we appreciate, We appreciate that, we appreciate, appreciate the history. One of the things that I'm gonna say is, you know when you look at the Mount Rushmoores, Michael changed the game. Well, I mean,

why did you list your list? My list is my list because clearly Michael Jordan is sonontymous with basketball. When you think about wrestling, you think about Hall Kovied, Right, you think about Steve Auston, you think about the Rock. Right. When you think about hockey, you think about Wayne Gretzky. You only think about Wayne. When you think about baseball, you think

about Hank Aaron. You think about Babe Ruth, you think about Mark McGuire, you think about some of the other heavy hitters that change the game. Right when you think about soccer Payley right, you know every sport has players that are synonymous. Michael Jordan is on there because it's Michael, no explanations needed. Lebron is on there for a lot of reasons, but more importantly because he did. He came out of high school and changed the game.

Okay, leron Okay, and he's the first player that will have forty thousand career points when it's all said and done. He broke a record that sat there for thirty years. Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward to ever play the game why and he did it fundamentally. He wasn't flashy one team and Shack is because, like you said, no big man has ever dominated the

way Shaq was. Imagine if Shaq was fifty or sixty pounds lighter and in what he would have done, he probably would have played well beyond his years. So for me, I mean not that Mount Rushmore needs to be explained, because if you ask fifty people, you'll get fifty different answers. I can respect the commentary on Larry Bird because Larry Bird was Steph Curry before Steph Kirk. True, okay, and he was crazy and he played d and he wasn't a punk, and he wasn't with this buddy Buddy ball crap.

Larry Bird didn't become Buddy Buddy Ball into USA. And if you watch that US end of his career, if you watch that usay marketing tape or marketing stuff, you see Jordan with the ball, Larry on Michael's left shoulder and Magic on the right. Magic. Johnson has gone on the record playfully but saying people like he said, Michael Jordan is the reason I retired from basketball because I got tired of chasing him around. But like I said, you

know, everybody's stuff is different, So I'll say that. Congratulations to the AFC champions Kings Chiefs for defeating the Baltimore Ravens. No, no, no, no, we got to get I need to say this seventeen. Let's go get the Packers. Get out of here. Man, it was the boys. Listen, we're taking applications for a Packer fans. So, if you want to let go, if you want to let go of the culture for love here, if you want to let go of the losing culture known

as the Dallas Collboys. We welcome you. Listen. Listen. As a Packer fan, I had to fill out a Jordan Love apology for him because I didn't believe the height. It was my good friend Terence Slaughter who's watching, and said, bro, calm down. He said, you gotta give people a chance to be great. Man. What I'm saying, That's what I mean. How you're such a hater. I'm just let's move on. So if you really want to send a congratulations, let's congratulate the NBA All

Stars started renamed this week. Let's let's give that a congratulations. So you go. And I have a question. Did Dame make it out of votes or did they pick him because Halliburton was injured? No, he was. He was picked beside Halliburton. Oh so he ended up edging out Halliburton. He have been at two guards, so you can only pick three because Trey Young got it right. Halliburton the Dame also he edged out Trey Okay, wow, So after every well, first of all, let me go ahead

and Andre be quiet, not chiefs. I will not be quiet. You know that church song. I will not be silent. Yeah. Say so we have the NBA All Star Starter they've been named this year, Like I said, like Andre was just talking about, we got Hallan Burton, he got Dame. For the East, we got Hallibert, Tyrese Halibert, Damian Lillard, Giannis and mb Joel Embi that center. And then we got who's the other guy? That's why, that's why Damon lies uh jis oh Jason

Tatum, I know we were forgetting somebody. And then for the West, we have Lebron James. No surprise, there's a popularity contest. Lebron James. We got Joker, we have Luca, and we have who's the third guy? Oh, Gilbert Alexander. Yea, so we got Luca, Gilbert, Alexander, Lebron James, excuse me, Joker, And who's the fifth guy? You throwing me off? I'm not you throw me off. It's Lebron, It's Joker. He s g a Okay, here it is Luca is Luca s g A Joker? And then Kevin Durant and Lebron James,

the guy who you're arguing that should be a goat you forgot. He was the most forgettable one. I said, I don't like it, but it's true, and I agree with you. Okay, So here's the thing. Every year, every time this year it's some snuffs. Word on the street is Jalen, there's some what word on the street is? Before I he some what there's always some snubs. What he's done. Well, I thought you was gonna say what you typ type stuff. Well, here's it's a

couple of there's a couple of storylines come out of here. Well we'll say that question for bucks talk. You know why, you know why he's not that, But he did get some votes, so let's put that out there. He got some votes. So okay, couple, here's the thing we got. Number one, did Jalen Brunston get snoup? Let's start there. Number that's number one. Number two, Steph Curry hasn't been a This is the first time Steph Curry hasn't been a starter since twenty fourteen, ever since

he's been since twenty fourteen. And this is crazy. That is crazy. No, but I will say this here. What I want to say about that. I think when you when we read the names last week and you said Steph Curry was up, I'm like, Steph Curry's up. He hasn't been having a great year. I'm sorry, he just hasn't happen having a great year. And the ways what's that team, the way Golden State is looking, I don't think he deserves one, to be honest with you,

So so I just need you to say is a first ball. Let's answer. The first question is did Jalen Brunson get snub? No? Here's why there are There are no snubs in the All Star starters because fans get to pick, So there are no snubs. There are no no, no, no, no no, because it is about popularity, not stacks. Now, if they took away the voting from the fans, then we could judge on snub get it wrong. The fans can get it wrong, but the

All Star Game doesn't matter. So the fans got it right. You get no incentives other than cash and maybe something on your record that says I'm an All Star. So there are no snubs. All of my starters made it, with the exception of Trey Young. Every single person that you mentioned except were all on my lists except for Day. I'm sorry. Insteah right, I had Steph over Luca Right. So when you think about the starting lineup. It sucks for Steph, but it's a changing of a guard. Damian

benefited. One of the things that the Milwaukee Bucks does very well. Shout out to the Milwaukee Bucks organization. I've experienced this firsthand as a season ticket holder and a partner of the Bucks through my employer. The Milwaukee Bucks fan experience is one of the best in the NBA. When they explained, so when you go to games right like have court shot, minute to win it

backwards eating cam right, the Milwaukee Bucks market stair team very well. When Dame Lillard hit his first game time buzzer beater as a Milwaukee Bucks, the first thing that popped up on the big screen was scan here to vote for the Bucks as your All Stars. And what do you think people did in that moment? Scan their phone and start voting. Not only that, the popularity of yani Is helped Dame catapult into that. Dame has never been an

All Star starter. Yes, okay, the popularity of Yanis helped him get there. Right, So if fans can vote, then we can vote. Like, don't tell me, that's like the presidential election. Don't tell me is wrong because you lost, you know, what I'm saying, don't tell me is wrong because you lost. But same thing with votes. Don't tell me that we got it wrong when it's our choice. It's art like we tolld about the what is it the Mount Rushmore right, don't tell me we

got it wrong. One note on that Mount Rushmore stuff one episode. I love us for us to do this because everyone can't be on Mount Rushmore. I wanted to say this because Steph is not on my Mount Rushmore twenty years. Steph is my logo. Since he can't be on my Mount Rushmore, he's the logo. He replaces doctor Jerry west Or he has some type of award named after him. That's how good Steph is to me, and that's

what he means to the game of basketball. But back to the Y'all Star game, don't get upset with me because I didn't pick your favorite player. Brunson will be a reserve absolute Stephan. Let me answer the question. Here's my question. Yeah, are you saying he deserves because I saw it silent to me, you're saying it is what it is. Don't beat don't don't boohoo to me. I'm asking you, do you believe that Brunton should be over Dame. I didn't pick him, so now I didn't pick that.

We do have a local Knicks fan in the building. They're trash, who are trash. Their history is trash. I'm sorry, and they'll let him down. And he quit the Knicks, so we don't want his opinion. He quit the He quit the Knicks like a bitter like a bitter ex you know. He he ain't going back right to what he quit the Knicks. So we love him, but he can't come and he hates the Knicks. Although that that that that overly, I just question there is a certain comment

I have a question. There's before you ask them. There is a certain commentary that's picking them to go to the Eastern Conference Finals. Now number one, I know who you're talking about. I think he said the words are important. They have what it takes to be in the Eastern Conference podcast. There you go. Words are important. They had what it takes to be an Eastern Conference Finals. I when they were talking about this last night before

the game. I think that the Knicks are in a they're in a position where their relevance is has catapulted to where they're in the top five, top five in the East. Now this is this is not a sprint, this is a marathon. So it's not It may not happen this year, it may not happened next year, but I do believe it's going to happen. Them picking up O G. What was something special? They've been twelve and two since they picked them up. So they pick up. To me,

you get rid of Randall, you pick up one more superstar. My god. Uh, basketball is back in New York City. I'll just leave that there now. Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley said something. He said trut me. He said that the Jalen Brunson has made the Knicks hasn't been Uh. He's the first player to make the New York Niggas relevant since Patrick Ewing. M Armelo made him relevant. He just didn't do anything for them exactly. So with that being said, you have to take Carmelo out. Jason Brunce

is not only making them look good that they winning. I don't care about you. You know your name, your name. He just over there making business deals too. To me, Carmelo over there making business deals. I'm saying Jaylen Brunt said winning because when when when Patrick Ewing with the Knicks. They was winning, they was going to the Eastern Conference finals, you know. Unfortunately, Jordan was like no, no, no, no, no no, this is my stuff, and they was like, oh, okay.

Cool. So with that statement being said, I was going to ask the local Nicks fan but apparently former local Knicks fan, and how do you how do you feel about this? Is that true? No comments, no comment, I'll ask Huger, I'll kick it to you, then to me, to me, to be really honest with you, this is no Like I said, he played for the Bugs. Now a couple of things, but Dame, this was working in Dame favor. Number one, that last

second shot to be sacrament so that definitely working in your favor. And trash he had. He's had a couple of those too. That's number one buzza. That was his first buzzer beaters. That was the first buzzer beater. But he had some. He has clutch clutch shot two minutes after the game, I mean two minutes in the fourth quarter is Dame time. You always

say that anyway, but check this out now. So you got that last second buzzer beating that helped him out and then on top of that, I think Day may not be in a big market, but he's in a viewable market. Portland was playing after nine o'clock, ten o'clock. It was it's hard to see them. Milwaukee's not a big market, but it's a championship market. I'll give you that word. Championship market, and we have because

of Yiannis. You're right, a lot of more eyes are on him now because of Gianna's Yeah, and we're playing He's playing six o'clock, seven o'clock at night. So THEA hasn't played on Christmas since ever? Yeah, has he ever got a Christmas Day game? I think they have maybe once or maybe once. But like I said before, Portland playing in Portland, you play at night time, late at night, like Sacramento type stuff. So that's why I'm like, well, you got a lot more eyes on you.

But I do would say this, Jalen Brunston is having a phenomenal season. So with that being said, should he have got the notch? This is the second second one he played in twenty eighteen, second one Christmas Day? Oh okay, but yeah, his So I'm just kind of like, maybe to me, it could have win either way. It could have win either way, but I think brust and overall is having a better season than

Dame. Oh to be honest with you, Dame Trey, there's many that should have gotten it, but you we can't make those choices because you get to vote. Now. I see on here you put All Star snubs. We can't, we can't. I can't wait till we talk about the All Star snubs because there will be a lot. Oh, there will be a lot. I well, I asked for the because people feel like the starting

five. Some people got snubbed in the starting five. Oh yeah, And that's why I brought it up. I mean, like you said before, when when they announced the reserves again, there's gonna be some more snubs. But I just wanted to bring the conversation just for the starting five. But I do want to ask this question now as far as like who, because last week we talked about your starting five. Who is your starting five? So who would be your reserve for your stars? I mean for your who

all Star reserves? So I'll pick five because I don't want to go through every position. Yeah, two yards too forwards in the center on the Eastern conference. I would probably say oh, man, I need a roster because there's a lot of players. Well, okay, I'll name some people who weren't starters ahead, Derek White, not on my reserve, Donovan Mitchell. So I need to see a full list. Uh, possibly go next Brown? Yes, so no Donovan Mitchell. You said no, Dole Mitchell,

you say, yeah, I need to hear more note of it. Maybe maybe Jylen Brown for sure, Jaylen Brown for sure? Yes, so the guards right there? So no Mitchell, we got forwards, Randall for the Knicks. Possibly who else you got? We got in the Eastern Conference? You want to go list just a lot? Yes, Now, I would say he's a guard though it don't have to be. It don't have to does not have to be two forwards, two guards to senates, it don't have to be. So so here here, here's what I'll say. I'll

I'll give you. I'll give you three players from each conference that should be reserves for sure, starting with the West, Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards, and Kawhi Leonard. Those should be reserves right there. For me, I'm gonna give you three from the West and three from the East. East Brunting for sure, Trey Young, Bam out of Bio or Maxie. I will be okay with either one. I'll give you three and three because it's too

hard without seeing the full list. So I'll give you three. So West, Steph Edwards, and Kawhi, Eastern Conference, Brunson for sure, Spam out of Bio and Tarre's Maxie. You know, I want you to do the triggers out because I'm finna. I have some, but I want you to do this because this is my help. Okay, look at Well. I have something here that says what a possible reserve might be. No, I want you to look at the Eastern Conference because you look at the team

and it kind of sparks sparks some stuff. Because I got this is what I got full the West. I have Jamal Murray, I have Anthony Edwards, I have Townsend, Karl Anthony Towns, I got Darren Fox, I got that Brook. I don't think that's gonna make it this year. You don't think I'm gonna make it this year. I can see him not making it, but because his team, because his team is in the top of this top, Rudy will make it over him. No watch, no watch,

defensively. Yes, yes, Rudy and Rudy and make it over Cat watch Jesus Christ watch okay, and then town oh and then is that four mm hmmm? And then like you said, Kawhi, and who else you said? You said somebody else? I said, Kahi, Anthony Edwards, Steph I said, Steph Curry, and Steph Curry. No, no, no, Paul George, I'm Paul George. He ain't gonna make it because Kawhi gonna make it. So you gotta give it to both of them. To remember it's only twelve, so they can only pick seven players. I

gave you five, okay, you want to need me five? Five Steph, Anthony Edwards, Kawhi, Rudy Gobert, and Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis, I gonna make it. You're gonna make it. Name second long and let's not listen name out there. When Anthony plays Anthony play, you know how big that it is? That it is the size of this room. That's that's how big. You know, if he played what say, I was a fit, we all be drunk. If it was Anthony David, you'd be drunk seven days a week, exactly. It's a two leader.

It's a too leader, not a not a fit. If it was a too leader, we all be drunk, so to me, And you can actually pick seven players because each it's twelve. For rosters, it gets seven. But on the East Brunson, I'm gonna just pick five, Bawn, Maxy, Trey Young, and I would even probably say Perzingis. But I would probably give it to Randall, even though he sucks as a as a teammate. I think that's a person he sucks, but play wise I'll get

hopefully he's not. On the East, well, here's the other parts to remember, Brunson still might get the starting now because Halli Burden might not be available to play. I know, but that's that's you know, I hate. I ain't say I hate that, but it's not a starter starter you just like there. They even announced that the game in place of Tyree Holler Bird Jayleen Bron saying like, oh god, well, I actually would be

the person with the next amount of boats. And then on top I think it was I don't know, I don't know, but so for me it then on the East of Brown, Jaylen Brown, Tyree's Maxi, Jaylen Bronson, Rando Mitchell. Bam, I'm going Tyler, I'm not giving it a Jimmy. He missed many games, all right to me personally, and then

that's it. Let's go Detroit Lions. So I mean, my my thing is like again, we'll probably bring this up again when they have when they do snub, when they do select the whole, I believe they'll be picking the reserves like right the week before the game, really to the To be honest with you, the most exciting thing this is the first year. I'm not looking at the dunk contest this is but this, this three point contest is gonna be something very interesting. I believe they're going to have the women

w n B a player. This is a good stuff. So I forgot her name. I can't think of her name right now, but I think she's gonna be competing against Steph. And then Damn said he's gonna participate in the three point contest. Crown. You're gonna defend this crown. So it should be very interesting. Just for that. A Loon All Stars will be revealed next this Thursday. This Thursday, this Thursday at seven o'clock on So okay, I gonna say, bro, come on well, I'm like,

I know that wasn't me. I know I'm loud, but I can really hear myself out. But no, the All Star Game will be on inside the NBA this Thursday. They will reveal the reserves, so make sure you watch watch So then we'll we'll discuss who got snub completely next week. Now let's get to the criminal cram Bucks talk this week. This is there's been a lot of Milwaukee Bucks talk, some for good reasons, some for bad

reason. But isn't a lot of Bucks talk just because our coach after thirty three and ten, Adrian Griffin, has been fired and replaced with Doc Rivers a couple of things. Let's just get this out the way. Nobody, hold up, before you say it. If you go back to last week's episode, I said, and I quote, the coach has got to go. I don't think you said that. Oh I absolutely said it. Then before you say that, Before you say that, nobody in the city Milwaukee

was surprised. They shouldn't. Everybody outside the city was like, man, that's crazy, wod tell you why? Once we get to it, go ahead, nobody was Nobody outside nobody in Milwaukee was like, wow, that's surprising. That's number one, number two, this whole situation, this was okay, this is what I heard from WOAJ. The the Bucks, Milwaukee Bucks when they first got Adrian Griffin. They got Adrian Griffin because they because Joannice did not want Nick Nurse. They also got them because No. I

think that's a good move. I respect him for voice in his opinion. A couple of things we have when they signed him, we did not sign Chris Middleton yet, we did not sign Brook Lopez yet, we did not have the roster that we have now, and we didn't have Dame left. I like that. You keep on saying that that's I do. So I feel like I feel I'm not saying that Adrianne Griffin was set up a failure. I'm just saying I don't because they think people saying are saying he got

a bad rep due to this situation. I just feel like the man they weren't the Bucks start were kind of moving on the fly and so they weren't prepared for it. And on top of that, Yannis hadn't signed long term. So I feel like that Adrian Griffin didn't get he didn't get set up for the Oakie Dough. I just feel like maybe we didn't. We weren't expecting all this stuff to come together as the time went by. Now I want to say this too, the Bucks is very few times the fans and

the organization are on the same page. I've been sitting here saying for weeks it just doesn't look right and something has to change. And I went from coaching to the rotation to maybe we need another player, maybe we need to make some trades, blah blah blah blah blah, And I don't feel like all of this is put on the coach. I came across some stats and

statistics that was like, was it Adrian Griffin's fault? So the first question for you, Dre is should the Bucks have let him ride the whole season? Up? Don't you do that? Because I got it? I got it. Okay, Okay, okay, okay, I just want to should have let him ride the whole season? Now? Or was this the right move? If I hire you to do a job and you do it well part of the time and not circumstance change, Okay, this is what I'm gonna say. Adrian Griffin was in over his head. He should have never

had the job. Hold us, let the ouzi off, let it off. He has never been an assistant head coach, he has never been an interim head coach. And he worked under who was coaching under Nick Nurse. Okay, Nick Nurse as good as he is. You didn't want Nick Nurse, but you wanted his backup? No, no, no, no, he said he didn't want Nick Nurse. Hop out, Yannis had a choice. I want to throw out an interesting fact and then I'll get to your question. Since Jannis has been with our team and the man, we've had

six head coaching changes and we're still paying for three of them. We are. We've had Jason Kidd, We've had wait, we had Larry Drew. Remember Larry fired after one season, which he should have because he's stunk. We had Alvin Party, the guy who's the interim head coach right now. He got canned after one season a couple months. No, yeah, it was early. We had Jason Kidd, who I think helped make Jannis into the player that he is. I don't think Jason gets enough credit for Giannis's

development. He put his book. I'm not a Jason fan, but he gets some credit. Then it was Bud who I think we were hard on this call up. Let me finish. This is karma, This is karma. We are part of that. I was. I said it was hard on them. It was hard when it came to fire Buck. You listen, man. Then we had Griffin. This is what I'll say to this and I'll let you they say what you need to say. I answer the

question, but yeah, go ahead. The Bucks were absolutely right. I don't care if we were thirty five and five because here's why, America listen to me and listen to me good. If you look at the Bucks schedule from this thirty and thirteen, the Bucks had the second easiest schedule to start the season. We went four to one against the Pace. We're losing by we're losing to the Pistons. We're beating them by four. We're playing no

defense. We went from number two to number twenty seven. Yes, well go You don't have Drew Holiday. One player doesn't change the whole defensive scheme. You had Yiannis who was not respecting you, changing plays in the lineup,

not coming out the game. Bobby fort Is, who is mild mannered, snapping on you in the locker room, We sat on the floor two weeks ago Bobby double double, Cameron Payne couldn't miss, and you bitched him for Pat Connington, who went oh and something and still played in the game. The hard part of the Bucks schedule has yet to begin. This is the second half. We have the Clippers twice, the Lakers twice, Voden State one more time, right, Phoenix twice. We have a hard schedule

coming Upton Boston. And if you're trying to build a championship pedigree, I don't necessarily think Doc was the guy. You have to have experience, and Griffin did not have experience. He looked like he didn't know what he was doing out there. Now. I hope he gets an opportunity again. But go coach a scrub team and let's see what you can do. Go coach the Pistons like Manty Brown is doing. Manty Brown. People say, well, you didn't get fired. He's a Detroit. Washington just fired their coach

too. You know what I'm saying, Brown, Manti Brown? Is it Manti Brown? Isn't it Monty Brown? I don't know, Manji Matti Williams of the Williams. Thank you, Manti Williams. If you look at Manti Williams, he said, well he's not fired, but Detroit is slowly getting better. Their losses aren't blowouts somebody. They are a piece or two away from figuring it out. The Bucks should have been one. We should have won the play in tournament, and it was just too much drama surrounding that.

So the Bucks did what they were supposed to do. I feel bad because you never want a person to lose a job. And I'll take a page out of your book when we talk about trading for Chris Middleton. When it comes to the coach, who else was we gonna get? Yeah, yeah, I knew that. When they was talking about, well, a couple of things, he's a couple of things. Number one. Uh they said, Docs was you know, giving him advice during the getting He was

a consultant. Yeah, but he wasn't a higher consultant. He was just calling Doc Rivers was a higher consultant. He was a higher consultant. That makes it, no, it makes it. It makes it more understandable. Because they fired Adrian at noon and Doc was hired by three pm. People might be looking at Doc like you dirty, don't leave your woman around Doc when you leave the room, Doc on here on your check is that it's a business. He he can't help. He got a he got a resume

and you don't. He has a resume that is very distorted his resume question, but it's a it's a resume. And he has one championship with with with the superteam with a super I don't know about the super team. Yeah, he had a he had a Garnet superstar. He had a superstar and Ray Allen, and he had a superstar in Paul Piers. And he had a starting point guard who was the best at the time in Rajhon Rondo.

He was definitely he had a superteam. Boston was a super team. I'm not even gonna get into the I'm not gonna get into it because that's thirty minutes. It's not fact. Was Boston superteam tone yes or no? When Doc one barely was there a superteam? Yes or no? Yes, America America, you chime in and let us know what's Boston the super team? Because if they weren't listen, the only thing Doc is holding on to is that one championship. He's blown more three ones. He's never won a Game

seven. Okay, so Doc has a lot of pressure on him, especially because in the eyes of the casual fan, you stole your boy's job. So here's my thing. Okay, well and your boy is a brother, and we go. Let's just say what people say. It's a doggy dog world. Saw someone posts and it irritated me. Someone posted, Hey, Doc, look what they did to Larry Drew, Look what they did to

Jason Kidd. Now Adrian Griffin as a black man, I wouldn't want to come here, and I just I usually don't comment on social media because I like to keep a mild mannered approach. I have to protect my piece. But I literally comment and said that has nothing to do with anything. All all those coaches you named were trash. They were trash, all those coaches. Now, Jay, he didn't put Jason k You talked about Larry, you and Griffin. I said all them coaches were trashed, Yes, all

of them. The only way they trash all of them. Not only were they trash, are they coaching today? They're not. They are not steal trash. Still, So here's my thing about Adrian griffat this, Like I say, I said before I came across an interest in some stats. That was very interesting. Uh one one hundred and eleven point five defensive raty Bucks starting lineup this season, which is second best in the NBA. The Bucks starting lineup had a defense. Yeah, I had that defensive raty that's worth

second in the league. When Jannis Middleton Damon Lopez are on the floor is one ten point eight, which seems like with what when the bench players have to play without one of the Jannis or Lopez, things go off the rail. The numbers improve when Connington comes in from Middleton. So my thing about that is this is it really is it really a coaching situation but not more of a roster situation. It's both, But the thing about coaching is you

have to know your roster. That's very true. We were up on the Kings by seventeen. Again, I go back to Bobby In, Cameron Payne and the other guy. No black dude shooting three a little bit, killing, killing, and he benched dang up until that last shot. Couldn't buy a bucket, couldn't buy a bucket, Low Pazz, couldn't buy a bucket, or I like brook Brook is old, it's time for us to whoa. We slow knew that going in, but we did. His age is

showing we didn't have a choice. It's showing now, oh it's been shown. It's showing. And I like Brook, but thank you for the memories. But it's time. The coach is sixty. And you know, always been like this. I always start firing a coach was a cop out. I always thought that. But in this situation, sixty forty sixty forty like sixty sixty coach forty players. Because here's a thing, Doc, Doc will be here because the Bucks ain't gonna play another player, another coach. He'll

be here for three. He gonna ride his contract out. I think he's outside for two. Didn't three year deal forty million dollars fifteen, seventeen, eighteen a year. But Doc rivers, this is your final chance. They say coaching. That's word on the street. Redemption, that's word on the street. If you don't take the I don't think you have to win. You have to win to stay with Milwaukee, to get more than four, more than three. But if you don't win in Milwaukee, you're done.

And here's why I'm gonna give Doc the benefit of the doubt, because every coach the last ten years have had at least three stars. After Doc left Boston, he didn't have multiple stars. Clippers debatable now then to now then to he had a city had an injured Brook An injured Chris Paul and and and and and live city was not enough to win titles. It was nice to watch. I used to watch, but he they couldn't stop the Lakers. Plus he coached in the Golden State era. I played on the players

James Harden left. He could anyone showing up. He wasn't showing up. I think him and him and James Harden don't get along. Okay, so this was Okay, here's my doc is never I'm gonna say this, Doc has never had Dame and he's never had he doesn't he I don't think he's ever had two superstars who are dedicated to improving and making Because this there's no distraction here. They're no distracting here. So it's it's based on focusing on

basketball. By the way, this is a home coming because Doc Rivers played basketball Marquette. They actually I was a game they introduced some Saturday at the Market game. Yeah, he was at the Market game on Saturday. So my thing this, sorry to cut you off, but they just mark just ready for the checks. They just ready for that alumni donation, which is more likely now that he's back, and it's more likely to come and think get a championship. And my thing is with this whole situation is, like

I said, it didn't look right. It hasn't looked right all season, even though we was winning, we were second place in the East. We are second place in the East. It just doesn't look right. I still think the Bucks need to make a move in the trade deadline. I can't wait for people. I see people get get bought out. I'm hoping we can pick up PJ. Tucker. I'm hoping, honestly. If we don't pick up Murray, I hope. I want us to pick up what'sn't called it. I want us to pick up Kyle Lowry just to see, just

to see. But I want us to pick up some dogs, some guys who can come off the bench and give us some life behind the bench. Or if we need to pick up a starter like Murray, can move somebody from the start a line up to the bench. Now I will say this's about the Bucks. Number two you're right. This second half of the season is going to really prove who we are. That's one. Number Two, we got Crowder coming back, so that's that's good. When I hate,

we'll see what happens and then you know our team is starting. I don't know what Doc Rivers can do because, like you said, I like the analogies that you said, sixty forty sixty players, forty coach, so Doc can say all of everything he want to say. But you gotta have number

one. You gotta have guys who can buy in. Having a championship does make guys buy in absolutely, And I will say it helps with guys who want to, you know, win, Like I have a championship, I know what it takes, and we're like, all right, cool, we can win. I can see Doc not losing the locker room in Philly and in Los Angeles. So it's one of the things where like I see where

I can see both sides of this thing. But I feel like all the reports are coming out, does it None of the worth that's coming out make Adrian Griffin look like we did him vogus because everybody's seen it. Everybody's seen it coming. And I'll say this Doc Rivers is under a tremendous amount of pressure, a tremendous amount of pressure, more than I was gonna ask you question naxt more. No, I'm saying more than Damon, more than Giannis. Yeah, I think so. But also listen to me and listen to

me. Well, if Doc Rivers blows this our GM, I think his name is Brian Horst, John Horse, he's out, because really he's out. Because here's why you do not hire an inexperienced coach to coach a championship team. Hold on a second, hold on a second stop. I have to stop you there. That's why I preferenced. This is when I first said we didn't have all these these Dave got signed after Griffin, he got

traded after. Does it matter why when they fired Budd, you knew you were building a hopeful championship roster with Budd right for you should have went right for a coach. Yanni said no the nick Nurse. They said no to Mark Jackson, they said no the nick Nurse. They interviewed five coaches, but he's only said no the nick Nurse. If you don't think said yes to Griffin, I got a blank check for you hold a second, You're right he did say yes to Griffin because didn't know who Griffin was. He's

like, more of a reason. Why listen, there is a fine line between he said anybody but Nick Nurse. That's what he said. He said, anybody but Nick Nurse. He was like, we got this Griffin guy in the corner right here. He he coached under Nick Nurse. He's like, that's fine, but you can I on him. I'm like, all right, cool, Nick Nurse would have been great. I don't know about that. Nick Nurse is a real coach. I don't know about that. You see, hey, you see what happened at the choir left of Toronto.

He didn't have a body, and they still did. Okay, they're still okay. They almost made it. They made to play a journament. They still did. Okay, Listen, we fired Bud, a two time coach of the year. Now only did we fire, but we fired Bud after he lost his brother and we had to. We had to love it with no choice, no choice. Okay. Now, this here's my thing. Here's my thing. This is why GM is good. I'm gonna tell you why GM is good. I don't think I'm gona tell why three coaches

on the row doesn't get it done. Out of here? Hey, hey, we have to He like, we have to win now. We have to win now, not next week, not next year, not two years from now. We have to win now because us winning now is the only is the only thing. Was like, all right, cool, I see what you're trying to do here. I'm just our resign. Dang, we got dame for the other three years, Dawn. I do like I said before, I think we need to make some roster moves. Unfortunately, we

have no draft picks. That's the only reason we ain't got murried. We have no draft picks, no good ones, not for least three for years. Again, a team that is trying to win now. So is Doc Rivers here for the next two three years? Yes, but if he don't bring us to the NBA finals at least two out of those three years, I would agree with you he's got to go. But my thing is this, what is Doc River's gonna do? And on top of that, who else was out there? Who was out there really beside Doc Rivers? I

think they were names. Thing out there was like mc millan. I was like, who I knew who bu but he ain't got no, he ain't. When he ain't won nothing, he doesn't. But he also has coached in more. He has coaching experience. He has very he's not a lot of coaching experience, but good experience. He has good experience. But he has coach Indiana. He coached was it Atlantad? So there wasn't a lot

of coaches out there. I mean, the three names that they had were Jeff Van Gundy, Doc Rivers, and people have had Jeff's name in the game for a long time and Jeff has no desire to coach. Hopefully they bring them back to commentating. So I mean, it is what it is. I mean, I wish Doc Rivers the best. He'll make his coaching debut tomorrow against the New Orleans Pelicans. Oh yes, you're right. It's against the Denver Nuggets, which is a big game. But I don't know

if Doc has practiced because he's been watching the game from the skybox. He watched last night when we lost to Cleveland on Friday night, and then he watched last night when the Bucks score one hundred and forty one points, Like, where's the defense in the NBA where's defense? Why our team scoring one

hundred and forty points in regulation? I can't stand it? Well, God, I missed the NBA really Okay, all right, so another thing in Bucks talk is okay, another thing in Bucks talk to Bucks are reportedly seeking a trade package that would include Pat Countington and Cameron Payne. What do you think of this possible move? Both can go Pat, especially because Pat's going to expect a big pay day. I think that's I think that's the opposite. Yeah, Pat can go, Cam can go, But without knowing for

who, it's hard to say. What do I think? As long as we're not trading boat Champ because I believe Doc would bring the best out of him. I think bow Champ is highly overrated. Well, keep watching, okay, keep watching. No, he's been there for the last couple of weeks on the bench, andywhere else has it? Yes, he's there. I'm balling out. I have not seen How did you hear that? And I've seen a couple of games. Okay, Well, good get as much

practice and click if you can. Because you got a ricky coach. He makes ricky mistakes by not playing talent, and bow Champs should be playing more than Pac Contington. Bow Champs should be paying more than Camp. He should be playing more than when you have a coach, he doesn't know his rotation. No, I blame Griffin for his lack of development of boat Champs. But I like it, especially if it brings a shooter. But for who is the big question. The NBA trade deadline is approaching very quickly. Yep.

So whatever the Bucks are going to do, the rumor has it, you know, I'm kind of connected, but a lot of people are linking pack Contington to Atlanta, and I don't know what and how they're linking now. But if we can get Murray over here, oh man, oh man, you talk about some First of all, the Bucks are going to be in a big salary cap issue if we get Murray, because Murray has a huge contract. You better look that contract. Yeah, an EXTENSI I think

he had an extension. He does. So the NBA trade dad line is February tenth, February ninth, February. It's February nine fifty trade dad line and Murray his contract is let's see here, it's pretty is it's pretty hefty. He has a Murray is getting thirty million dollars a year. He got a four year deal to twenty seven, twenty eight. He's in year one. So if you had his thirty on top of Middletons twenty five, on top of Dames forty eight, on top of Giannis's fifty plus, you're looking

at it. Hold up, you're looking at a starting lineup of two hundred million dollars plus a coach that makes forty million dollars and three other bucks. Payroll is about to be knocking at Golden state levels, Los Angeles Lakers. But if you want to win a title, you gotta do it. And I think Murray, I don't know that he's a missing piece, but he takes care of some of those shooting problems. Like I said, I think Murray. You put him in the starting lineup, puts these guys to the

bitch and we have a phenomenal bitch. You got Murray, you got Murray and Dame in the backcourt, you got Giannison, Middleton, bro I'll take it. And then on the bitch, you gotta take it. Beasley a crowder. We just need a point guard. Vote stop hating. No boat, yeah, hay, no boat chance. He just not what y'all think he is. He's just athletic. I don't care about that. No Lakers

have offered. The Lakers trying to get into but they didn't get They're they're going hard pick D'Angelo Russell, who's been balling out the past couple of days, but it's not consistent enough. So yeah, so we'll see. I don't think the Bucks will do anything to be truthful. I think they're gonna want to cut the buyo market and try to get some them veterans on the

team. We need to we need to really quickly. People are talking about Doc Whever's gonna bring your son on the squad, which is hilarious, which I'll take anyways. I'll take it. I'll take it. We need to solid point guard and camera Paigny doing it. But that has been another episode of ninety four feet podcast. You can catch us on all social media platforms. Hold on, so let's reverse that this has been another episode of ninety

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