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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. It's another episode of ninety four feet podcasts. Your boye exeking the Building. I'm here at uh Casey, those good, good people. I'm also here with Dray. You know, America, you can you can always tell the kind of mood. I'm gonna say it again, you can always tell the movie he's in. Because we get to here with my brother when he's not too annoyed, but then it's just first names. When he's a little annoyed, you go

there. I'm how you're gonna be annoyed with me? Jo, I ain't did nothing to you? What y'all? And then y'all turn around you and just shot to whatever. I'd be like, bro, why are you breaking me into it? He did it? I didn't do anything. What did I do? That's cool? Marry Christ happy to be in the building with Zeke and Keith. How y'all doing, family, How y'all doing? Man? Going on? I'm great, man, I'm great. Great. We can't great n B A action. You know what I'm saying? All good,

bro Rick oh Man? All good? What's good? Everybody? What's good? Everybody? Like I said before, it's ninety four feet podcasts. Usually I kicked it to Dre for injury report. I'm honest with you. I was too tired to do it. I ain't gonna hold you. But that's what we do here. We keep it one hundred on this podcast. Transparent, transparency, that's what we do again. I try to be keeping it, you know, I try to keep it like I don't do that.

And then you got you know, African Americans, they shot right away, no questions asked. It's cool. Don I don't worry about it. Don't worry, good people. I'm looking at the injury report of what's going on around the NBA. I don't really see anything else. Say, he said he always took a shot, so you know, it's a perfect time for me to throw in my shot there. I should have played a little louder, played it at all. You can't appreciate Broadway. You can't appreciate

Broadway. Man. You didn't put the injury report on man. Let's I didn't. Let's just move on. Let's let's just move on. Lets anyways, we're gonna do around. We're gonna do our shoot around segment. You talk about stuff going on around the NBA. Anyways, Uh, the Los Angeles Lakers win the first ever end season tournament by beating the Indiana Pacers one O three to one O seven. Lebron James wins MVP. Rigged, rigged, rigged possibly maybe maybe not. I predicted this last week. I predicted

it two weeks ago. Yes, I did. I was listening to ridiculous he did. I didn't. You said the Bucks and the Lakers. After the Bucks and the Lakers, and I said the Lakers would win it and Lebron would win mv P. I didn't. I didn't in your kids. This is when you was ribbing me about basketball scheduled to make forty million dollars guarantee contra team play. No, I couldn't say nothing to my podcast. You already know that. But I wasn't All Star Break. Yes, I

was listening to it in the car. But here's the thing. I said, Bucks and Lakers the probably m v P. I don't need to prove you. Go back and listen. Keasey said the Lakers wouldn't be Phoenix. He had Phoenix, and then I forgot how to both picked. I forgot who you picked. I had the Bucks and that Boston. Yeah, Boston. I had the Bucks and the Lakers. I'm very end of the day, I said Bucks and the Lakers. I'm very disappointed in the Bucks.

I'm very disappointed in the You said, I don't think it's rigged. I told you, guys, when you go back and listen, you gonna say Dre said it. I said. Lebron shines in moments like this. He shines in moments like this. All the cameras are on him. He's in Vegas where he wants to be a owner. He looked like he was playing in his twenties again, because it was a moment to do something that has

never been done. I'm an all time leading scorer. I'm going to be the first player that wins the end season with they're calling championship right, they're calling it the tournament champions. They got gold medals and an MVP Trophy. It just added to his greatness. There was no way that Lebron was not going to go into Vegas and not come out victorious. Because you know what,

Bron and the Lakers. Let's not just count out his team. Because Ad was balling, Austin Reeves was balling it, all were playing Okay, Lebron James and the Lakers treated this nd season tournament like the playoffs, and that's what the NBA was looking for. That's what they were looking for. And they just set an example of how you have to play when you come to the Ncason Tournament if you want to win. They did a hell of a job, a genius. I'm not gonna lie. They did a heck

of a job Garden Halibert, which slowed Indiana down a whole lot. Otherwise Indiana would probably have beat them rigged, but they put size on Halibert and then was a big distraction to what he normally does. Why do you keep saying rig You ever gave any stacks or proof why this is rigged? Rigged? How rigged? How rigged? You know? Just watching it brought you by. Darvin Ham did a great job coaching rigged. Hats off to Darvin

Ham. It just reminded me of I was watching my nephew and them played a couple of nights ago, and I guess New Berlin got this little guard. He was just lighting up lights out everybody they put on him. They put my nephew on them, which is who is six, He's about six four. The guard is about maybe six foot at the most. Size makes

a difference. When you're guarding a top caliber guard, you're gonna have to put size for them to make a distraction to some of them shots, and the Lakers did a good job of that by putting Cam Reddish and Vanderbilt Mohalibert, which made a lot of his shots tougher than it was during the normal games during the season, and it slowed the whole Indiana Pacers offense down.

Question, both of y'alls in job so high on all Lakers. Do you think if this would have went like let's say, a three game series, it had been the same. So that's where I'm not gonna comment because it's not the playoffs. That's the playoffs. I'm saying, that's the player. I asked the question, what do you mean? You're not gonna ask you the question because because one game, my question to you is you're devaluing the accomplishment. I ask question one question to you. You're devaluing it? Why

are you so? What do you call it? I still I'm not even not even the word I'm looking for. It's what's not a word critical of the there's another word he's looking for. While you so, you're you're so critiquing the system of something that you knew was gonna be the system going into this. Why do we got to critique it now? Why not just except they won? Move on, let's get ready for I just asked playoff. Do you think three games? We can't? If it was a fift we

all be drunk. Yeah, you said that. That's he's he's saying. I am asking a question. Do you think that this is a three game series it would turn out the same. Yes, against the Pacers, it might be as sweet. It might be a three games sweet, might be as sweet. I don't think so. Well, that's okay. Here's the thing. Not only did the Lakers beat the Pacers, they beat them badly. Not only did they beat New Orleans, they made New Orleans look like

they didn't belong at all. So here's the thing. So the Lakers earned this in season tournament. I'm not here's my thing. And as far as being it rigged or whatever, I'm not gonna have a I'm glad you asked, because I got this, moved this right here, and then this and such and such as such. I didn't. I'm not. I don't have that. That's why I said rig I didn't say, man, this team sucks, I said, I said rigged as in believing in conspiracy theories and

all that kind of stuff. Should curry now. Anyway, the point I'm making it I don't I believe that. I do. I watch the game. The Lakers had a really good plan. Darvin Hamm really coached a really good game. I asked that question because even though the Lakers played don't even have to play these teams one time. When you have to play somebody one time, it does bring the pressure and it does changes how you approach the game. So that's why I asked the question. So you can go like,

let's say Milwaukee would have lost the first game. They might have They probably would have. I think they would have either A took it to three or B beat these guys the next two games in a row. So that's what I'm saying. That's why I asked that question. I'm not sitting here trying to diminish what the Lakers accomplished. I'm just asking if do you think, if this is a three game series, it would have went there to beat them? Still, I don't know. I don't honestly, I don't

know. I don't know, but I don't think they would have. But I don't know. Just because Anthony Davis put up forty and twenty, I don't think he's gonna do that consistently. So that's one of the things why I ask that question, because that's one of the to me, that was one of the main reasons they won. Yeah, but Anthony Davis doesn't have to put up forty and twenty consistently against the Pacers. It's the Pacers,

Okay, Halliburton. The Pacers are top five teams here. The Pacers are moving the ball, they're shooting it at a high percentage, and they're young. So when you say and it's they say it's the Indiana Pacers. East Indiana Pacers beat the Bucks not once but twice, and they probably gonna beat them again. So have the Raptors. So what's your point. My point is, like I said before, Andy Davis is not putting up forty and twenty on consecutive basis for one good game he can give you. So here's

the thing. The New Orleans Pelicans and the Pacers. I was glad to see different teams in it. I am. I was very glad to see that the Pacers knocked off our Bucks. Uh, New Orleans knocked off was it Sacramento? Two predictions that I that I was wrong on. Uh, But you can't call it rigged. It's just Lebron is built for this. He's for it. He's built for the He Casey says it all the time. Not everybody's meant to be in the stars, right, Not everybody's meant

to be in the spotlight. Bron eats this stuff up. There was no way King James was going into Las Vegas to lose to a team that were probably in his basketball camp, or in high school or just being born when he was coming into the NBA. There was no way this was gonna happen. I was listening to the Paul uh to Kevin Garnet and the Lebron Hater podcast, and even Kevin Garnet, in all his critical news had to snap on PGE for not acknowledging that Lebron James is the top five player still in

the NBA. The reason that the Los Angeles Lakers won the nd Season Tournament is because Lebron James was the best player in Vegas over these four days, I think the I think Los Angeles Lakers won this because it was a simple one game elimination. That's what I think. That is a regular season game. And it just added the titles regular season game one and done. And now we got that out of the way. What do you think of this performance? What do I think of Lebron James performance at his age? It's

always amazing at his age, always amazing. Is he is he still a top five player? I mean I can name probably five players better than Lebron James right now, but name five Luca, Jason Tatum better than them. They're better than Lebron right now. And I ain't giving up Luca maybe, but definitely, honest, definitely, KD, definitely, Joker. I't even say Joe. Maybe maybe Joker. Once you get past once you get past them to everybody is suspect. You call it what you want to call it.

Yeah, I'm telling you right now, Giannis one, Joker too, Lebron's Steph probably three four and that could be interchange right it's right now in the league looking at play, Lebron and Curry are still top five. You want to say whatever you want to say, you know what's funny about that. The thing about that is every year they come with top hundred hundred players, top one hundred every year, Lebron James not on that list, and it's disrespectful. They hate him, how they hate him. The last three

four days, that's all we've been hearing about. Le Bron James at this age is amazing, fir. The point is when it comes to everybody, when he comes to his rankings, he's not there. But why do you think that is? Because he's not what because he's not a top five flaritymore he puts from the performance like he just put on for this tournament. So he's still not a top five, which Luca didn't make, which Tatum didn't make, but any other superstar you want to call didn't make. You know,

what to think about the Nason Tournament is it's still in season. When it comes to Lucas got no ring, Tatum ain't got no rings. His keep going were you talking about were you talking about Lebron James resume. Yes, these guys don't add up, but we're talking about guys who can take their team to another level. Lebron James is forty years old and still the best player on the Los Angeles Les, which he isn't supposed to be, but he has to be. He has to be for them to be even

slightly relevant. And the thing about it is this East Season tournament is a in But what does that tell you though? If he still if he's almost forty years old, then he can still make his young team k went win and picked up four superstars to hit him, and they're still not relevant. They got superstar money, of course they do. Everybody do. It's the NBA, everybody getting baid Man. Whatever you say, man, what's what's

what's what's Phoenix record? Right now? What Phoenix looking like? I just want to prove a point because the only time Lebron and them is not Lebron's team is not relevant is when they loaded with injuries. Kind of like how Phoenix is right now. They loaded with injuries, so they record don't look HOWE twelve and ten, so they record don't look NOWE should look right. They're a playing tournament right now. I'm just saying, records don't look right

when your team is injured. Every year that Lebron team doesn't look relevant is because they're injured. I don't think that's true. So I'll go back and look, I'll say this. I'll say this, the one thing that is gonna hurt Lebron with this. Winning the nd Season Tournament now, I believe has now set the championship expectations high. So now if you don't come and do this in the playoffs, now people are gonna say, oh, man, that N Season Tournament don't mean jack right, because they still say it

don't mean the thing without the ring. What I'm happy about is players at the end making a million dollars now get an extra million added to their paycheck. You know what I'm saying. So players who don't make big money get a chance to make a little money. They get a chance to celebrate. They got medals. Now they have an nd season turf Trophy. The NBA pulled out all the stops with this N Season Tournament. In the beginning, we were like, what, no one wants this? Now everybody wants this.

I think this was I think the way it was marketed, and it did bring it did He accomplished his goal in bringing excitement to the beginning of the season and revenue. Yeah, but excitement to the season to me when I seen the floor in Las Vegas. Honestly, I wasn't too impressed. But I'm like whatever, but still I just wasn't. No, clearly, especially when it comes to Lebron. It's not just Lebron. I'm just not thinking. No, when it comes to Lebron, you're not impressed at all.

You're overly impressed. That's the problem, because he's great and people need to recognize this greatness and stop hating on every little thing that they can hate one A right, go ahead, I don't care what you're saying, Adam Silver. I mean the whole weekend was Mark right, Like inside the n B A and First Take did Assignment CASTZ right, So they were on each other show. It's one it's one game, and that was great. That was great. They did it Thursday too. They did it Thursday as well.

I'm saying it's one game instead of it instead of the NBA usually stretching this stuff out, you know, whatever, seven game series, it was one game, one time, so on and so forth. One game. No, I don't think it was fair to say one game. It was. It was plaid. Each team played one. That's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't. It wasn't. On top of that, it wasn't a situation where uh NBA countdown does it and then t n T do It was

like, oh, we got to combine the the the two. I just feel like, like I said before, Lebrin James, fine, hey, Rudy to you when to go. But at the end of the day, if you ain't bringing home a real Lombardi, a real we got a few of them. M Marti, Bro, that's the NFL. I mean, Larry, Larry O'Brien. You ain't bringing up he ain't bringing in the real Larry Brian feeling you feeling good for them? Put that next to the shelf, Put it on the shelf and keep it moving. Go to go to

Brinnie. James matter of fact shot out to him he started his first when he had start, but he played his first game, Jordan. Anyways, the point is that's cool, wrap it up and just keep it moving. Russell got ten What okay, I'm just saying, he throwing out the sky is blue? Man, why you got don't don't don't don't don't don't come down on Mike because he coming down on Lebron. I'm not coming down on Mike. I'm just saying, I'm just throwing out numbers. Numbers. You

always gotta be just let it be the whole time. You get to talk about like his feelings hurt. That's what's wrong with America right now. They don't they don't want to embrace Lebron because they're so stuck on Michael Jordan. What KG said it BESTO, here we go. I'll better embrace this greatness that's going on right now. I bet I've always said it. I'm this greatness that's going on right now. Embrace this, be right, embrace it, Embrace it for what. Now, let's talk about the losing team Pacers.

This is they're coming out party, I think do I think this is they're coming out party, and they I think it was more important for them to win it. The Los Angeles Lakers disagree with the coming out party. Why this was the Milwaukee Bucks have a problem party. I don't think that because the Bucks. We should have the Yeah, the Bucks should have won. They should have beat the Pacers. At one point I was watching, they were up by almost twenty going into the four fine and to come back

and lose the way they lost. Reports are coming out that Bobby Porty's had some words with Griffin. Uh. Again, it's on the coach. It's on the coach to say that the Buck's on the d that's fine, But I can't focus on that because you're saying Indiana's coming out party. No,

Indiana got lucky because the Bucks drives. The Boss sees the thing. If you said, rig goes okay, no, just like you said, rigged, rigged, Just like you said, like the Bucks, the Bucks got outplayed the fact that the fact that the Lakers is like, we'll just just do real disrupt their pick and roll. And to be honest with you, Tayrese Haliburg shot is ugly. The fact that they ain't being blocked on a consecutive on a consecutive basis blows my mind. But Vanderbilt and Camp represented the

job on that shot. They did. They young, They act the athletic, they're on top of it. We got Brooke coming off the screen and he's slow. He forty, he's he's slow coming off the screen. So yeah, Halliberg got an open shot. My thing is about to me, to me, to me, I don't want to focus on the disappointment of

the Bucks. It was to me, it was more because this ain't the first time they beat the Bucks. This is the second time they beat the Bucks, and both times they beat him, they beat him with being young, athletic and the fact that this Indiana team is I ain't gonna say thrown together, how to thrown together, but put the weather, they're put together. They run the ball, they shoot really well. And you got Hallibert who's not doing he's not doing turnovers at an alarming or rate, doing like

I think he had like fifteen. I want to see how they learn when you get the game forty. Like I told you first twenty five, you keep pushing that back because at first it was game twenty to twenty five. Now we're there, now it was game forty. Which one I said, I said, you keep pushing it back. I said, after game twenty, you'll see people starting to slow down. Let's see what they record look like when they at game forty. So now because they were at twenty,

we had twenty. Everybody got they run in. They fresh legs, they fresh bodies, no injuries, no nothing, lots of injuries. I'm saying now the injuries kick in when you get the game twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty that's what most of the injuries kick in for the NBA season five thirty five, forty seven. All about the Benjamin's baby man. So, speaking of twenty five, then John Moran kids come back this week he does, he gets to come back. I don't know if that's gonna

save their season. No. I mean that's a big thing to crawl out of. And I bring that up to say to the point, you can't keep pushing it back. If you don't have it at twenty five, you're not gonna have it at forty. Okay, the season gets tougher, but that's not easy. But that's what I'm saying. I'm going back to what Utah did. Remember they started out that first twenty five games slamming everybody killing.

By the time they got the forty, they was already in the playing and by the time they got the fifty, they was out of playing. And then by the time they got the fifty they started trading their whole roster. No, I'm trying to tell you something to make a point, and yet you're not listening with your sun know your point is the season gets harder and people get get it does get harder. That's the whole point. We know that. Okay, y'all, relax, that's my whole point. I'm

trying to get my point. I'm trying to still. I see what you're saying. But the point you're making is obvious. The point of the point of predictions is not to say, oh, fifty games, Oh I knew this team was gonna do this. I told y'all fifty games in I see that reminds I told you that. No, I get it. But at the end of the day, that's the point of making predictions. The fact that Indiana is in the top five, they're usually not there. They didn't

make the play in last year, and they didn't make the playoffs. That's He's right, said he, I promise you when he is that crazy kick crazy, he said, Lebron James is gonna have is going to uh lead the league with a for a couple of years before so before some people recognize how he is. I don't think we're denying how great Lebron James is. You are not, because if you was, if you knew how great he is, you'd be more of finding congratulating him on the things he just did.

Rather than criticizing what he just did serious, he criticized everything about the playing that Lebron did. I'm saying, this is what I'm saying about Lebron James as my criticism about Lebron James forty years old and everybody said he played like he was twenty. Just because hold on, just because you start walking at one years old, that don't mean I'm gonna start praising everything you do for the rest of your life. You don't have to praise them. You

just said that. You just said, I'm not praising him for what he just did. I just think you are, at Takisi's defense, you are a little overly critical of Lebron about everything. I'm not about everything. Yes, even when they want in the bubble. Man, you was riding them when they wanted the bubble. First of all, I'm the thro person who said about the bubble. But to think about it, I mean the fact

that he ain't win it. Sentence, Hey, it says a lot, but don't because I'm saying I would say this, this is end season tournament worked in Lebron james favor, because, like I said before, it's one thing to go against the team one time and show out. But it's a different thing to be in a series. That's why we had the seven game series in the playoffs because things can turn around quickly. So you think the NBA did this as a favorite to Lebron. I don't think it did it

as a favor, but I think it. This just works in Lebron, and Lebron willhouse. This works in it not even the big light. I'm just talking about, Oh I gotta play this team one time. Oh okay, I can just give you forty one time and move on to the next team. But what but take your time. It's not just he did it one time. He did it the whole playing They played two or three games. Really they played like ten because you got to think about all season season.

That was part of the season. Yeah, but it will still consider a play. They played two okay twice, I mean, but that's just like playing hustle on the court, right, you lose, you get off the court. Yeah, I get it. I'm not what I'm saying is did this or did this not work in lebron Days favor? It worked in his favor, but it worked in anybody show It should have worked it worked in anybody's work at everybody favor because the teams we thought were should have been

there, they weren't there. So so huh why they wasn't there? What do you mean why they win? They had a bad night, you know what I mean? I had a bad night for ten games, because it takes ten. The play in was Judge on War. You're to win four games in your group to make it there, to make it to the semifinals, to make it to Vegas, you have to win four games. Lebron and James won four games. I wasn't back to back four games. It

was periodically twice a week Tuesday Friday. You win those games. Then a couple of weeks I think the next following week again or two weeks you play again Tuesday Friday, and then you move on to the semi finals in Vegas. So, like I said before, you play these teams in your group twice, okay, and you're not even playing them on a back to back, you're playing them periodically. Okay. So what I'm saying when I said work in Lebron James favor. Lebron and James and the Los Angeles Lakers play

Denver in the seven game series. How many games they win that series? They won one game? Correct, Yeah, but that was one game and it what happened. They got swept. No, they didn't win at all. They got swept because they did not. They got smoked. When they played the Nuggets, they got swept after they won one game. They got I'm sorry. The team that won one game was the Miami Heat. Okay, the Miami won one game, but they they got swept. Okay.

So my point is it's different when if you have one game to win, it's all on the table. Well, I don't so, Zeke. I don't think it's that. I just think it's where we are in the season now. If we had to, if we had another perspective, if we had a mid season tournament, that's another perspective, then you might be like, yeah, maybe this is not as rigged as I think it is.

Because now in the mid season, players have these miles on their body, they're tired, the back to backs are picking up the schedule, right, you know, you think about the Lakers, so well, here this is what I will say. I won't say rig but I would say the schedule was a little favorable only because Vegas and la are on the same time frame. Yeah, okay, whereas you know Indiana the bucks two year, two hour difference, which makes a difference in the by it does. But let's

give Lebron his flowers. I'm not saying I'm putting on the show Lebron James fire. Hey, great show. He won, he won, he won MVP. He and we should go next year. I mean, he won, he won, we should go. Congratulations. You know it was one of the things. Yes, it is Terrence. It was brilliant. It was brilliant. I mean brilliant. Like I said, it was exciting. Like you said first when we first heard about this, this is stupid,

but it was exciting. It turned out to be excited, and I think if you like basketball or you love basketball, it's going to be excited. He played both better than most twenty and thirty year rows. Just play just playing time. Congratulations, kick crazy, You and Kesey are in the two p's in the pot, two pie's and a congratulations. Yeah, that's a

good point. I think this is a great kick off to Christmas because the casual fan does start watching it because like baseball, unless you're like NBA fiends, like I'm a fanatic. The basketball season is long. Eighty two games is a long time. I'm watching all season. I always do as a league pass holder, I always do. But the point is, I'm gonna give you some props. Yes, that what I said, Casey. You gotta leak, you don't pay attention, you gotta leave I do. Wow,

we'll talk about that. You can't get any Bucks games though, because they block them, they black them out. I know, but I'm just just find it interesting. It's on local television. Yeah, it came with the scene tickets. I told you that. To your point, you got it. Yeah, I ain't paying for it. Few the point that Kesey was making, the NBA season is long. The teams that are in the top five right now may not be in the top five in twenty games.

So it is as great as Indiana was in this end season tournament. So they might finish seventh. But first of all, I think for bringing it back. So you're saying no threat, no to nobody, to nobody, to nobody, to nobody, totally agree to nobody. They're not a threat to nobody. Halli Burton is a good you know what this reminds me of and I hope I'm not cursing Halliburton. Halle Burton, I'm very proud of

you representing the state holding it down for the drake us real quick. I'm not finishot him out the wiscons because he ain't no real from scot and he from Oscott, but Oscotch. But god, here's the thing. Hold on, sayon, here's the thing that irritated me about when he was talking about it. He looks like Devin Hare is number one. But go ahead, that's funny. But he said, He's like, well, I really wasn't a Bucks fan like that growing up. I came, you know, I

came to watch the games when Lebron James came to town. Are did you? Son? But what's wrong with that? I don't like that? What's wrong with that? Either? You rep the see that you don't don't. He's not from Milwaukee, he's from Wiscon. Do you wrap the Packers? Okay? Then point okay, so you have to rep the bucksh talking out just because I wrot the packers. I wrepped the brewers, and I wrecked the Bucks when it's convenient, No for the brewer, when it's convenient Isaiah,

you been here wearing Chicago White Sox hacks. We're gonna do that real. Have you ever seen me were another sports basketball players, basketball teams hat. I've seen you were nigga on the bed so apparently again exactly so, I wasn't wearing a Lakers hat, but you're anyway that has something to do with nothing. You maybe missed my point, the whole point of this pace. I just wanted to put that out there. And he ain't know Wisconsin

like, he ain't know Wisconsin represented to you like that. He's no Wisconsin Rep. Okay, But what the Pacers are doing reminds me of the year that they had the Paul George and what's the other guy named Danny Greener Danny Granger coming out party. It's hot for now and people will forget about them when the playoffs come. The Pacers are no threat to the Eastern Conference. They're barely in fifth place, barely. Halla Burden is a star, he

might even he should be an All Star. The Pacers should ink him to a big deal before someone else does. But the Indiana Pacers are no threat to anybody in the NBA, not one team. This is what I want to say to that, not one team. This is what I want to say to that. This is what I want to say to that. Say what you go to say when teams like this come along and we be like they're no threat, they're no threat, they're no threat. And then the

teams, the teams who are bless your brother, bless you. The teams who are supposed to be a threat, the teams who are supposed to be dominating the East, they're not. The cell Ticks are number one, the Bucks are three, the Sixers are four. What do you mean they're not. I'm saying it's in my pocket. God. But the point is that these teams are. But the way I'm just seeing you had a point like you use it that should be. But my point is that I'm just not

gonna take I'm just not gonna uh. Every year, we also have a team that surprises everyone. Yeah, and that's the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference. And this is the thing exactly. People don't give it to you until you do something. So I'll give you that, but like I said before, like I said to Kisi, I'm not gonna give it to you after you then did something like hey, I see I see you like I see the Indiana Pacers. Y'all doing stuff. Y'all beaten teams. You're not

supposed to beat y'all in a position you're supposed to be in. So I'm like, Okay, I see y'all. I rather apologize like I had to do the Denver Nuggets than to say, yeah, they're gonna be dope, no show me in twenty games and the nd season tournament is as good as it was with the Lakers, I'm not impressed. I'm sorry, Bucks should have one, but I'm not impressed with the Indiana Facers. I'm not. I'm not, and you shouldn't be. I'm not. I mean, I'm

not impressed by the lost Lakers, and I shouldn't be. Uh, I'm not impressed by the Bucks and we should be. That was saying for Buckstock, thank you. Going to like I said before, Casey the other thing every year, and he'd be like, twenty twenty third games, you can't really judge nobody. M dum dumb, dump dump dumb. So we're doing predictions about twenty games in we're doing some predictions. Is that okay? What you do? Yeah, we're ty three games then actually is that okay with

you give me some endiction. Thank you. I appreciate that. Man. You both have one really dope winter Bucks knits. I just want to say that, appreciate it. Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome. First prediction. M v pas. Hey, I want to say this is too. We're thinking about m v P. Shout out to Jordan Love on this NBA podcast. What for coming into the coming into his own man. We was hard on Jordan Love, man, and I still am a little bit.

We were on Jordan. I have a you know what, I'm not gonna say you have i' even talking about I don't even care if we make the playoff. I'm just talking about him coming into his crack. That's it. Cut the crap. You've got to make the playoffs. There's no love for Jordan Love. Let's just cut the crack. Don't don't do that. Don't do that, dred because you do that when it comes to the packers. Don't do that. Shut up. You don't can make the playoff. Cut

the crap. No, cut the crackause don't make the playoffs. Here's why, you know, here's why you fact that he is giving y'all some light with the one of the easiest schedules in the NFL. Easy, we beat the Chiefs, one of the easiest, beat the Lions. Relaxed. Top two teams and the top two teams. Ye I ain't beat the Eagles. We ain't played them. You ain't. Okay, so relax, So playoffs. I don't want us to make the playoffs to get balanced. We're six

and six. We're six and six. A six and sixteen doesn't deserve to make the playoffs. But I can still give Jordan Love some love because the last three games his his stats are comparable to Jaalen Hurts. Let's just move on, okay, all right, one of these you know what, one of these days, I'm gonna throw this out here. One of these days, for one episode only, we should have a NBA special NFL podcast, just one one episode, one episode, just talk about the NFL, talk

about our Now. This is after this is after the UH Packers don't make the playoffs, right, I think it should be right before you know, when a wild card weekend comes a prediction machine, whether they make it or not is what we'll do. We'll do that right before last season, last game of the season, we'll take a look at the studs and stand in the NFL special. So, so to answer your question for me, the at twenty three games in the MVP of the NBA right now is a joker?

Really? At twenty three games in the m v P right now is Joker? Why stats? His stats have not changed since they gave it to NB last Let's talk about this. Let's talk about stats have not changed. I know they have a Let's talk about this real quick. Are they ever? Why is Michael Jordan the greatest? I'm asking why is herely regarded is the greatest. He has elevated the game. I't even talking about of a financial level. I'm just saying he elevated the game to a different level to

where Okay, Phil, that's the stop, that's the philosophical answer. Would you say earlier to Kesey when he said Lebron has four rates, you said Michael got six? Okay, Michael got six? Has he beat the best? He always won? If Joker has the best stats every year, why shouldn't he get MVB. Before you answer Kesey in your opinion, how no, how many MVPs should Lebron James have right now? Yes, at least five. I would say six to eight. I would say six to eight,

at least five. Joker so far should be going in leading on his fourth MVP. Only should it be his fourth, it should be his fourth straight. That's okay, I just real quick before you go on, Okay, I just want to say that I'm saying Joker right, this is what I'm saying about that that that way of going about it, or a way of thinking about it. If you have the same stats every single year,

that's just what you do. Even with Lebron James. If you have the same stats every single year, or around the same stats every year, that's just what you do. That means I have to take a wider look around the NBA to see who is having a spectacular season. That's who I believe the MVP. But that's why I believe the MVP should go to a person

who is expectacular season. And to be really honest with you, to be really honest with you, If the Indiana Pacers are top five in the when it's all said and done, they top five, whether they lose in the first round, second round, third or you know, I finals or whatever case may be, Tarry's Alibert should be in a conversation. He's already in the conversation. Low conversation. But to break your point on why Joker is my MVP right now? At twenty three games in, Joker is the only

player averaging the near near triple double. And that's what he do twenty nine, thirteen and nine point eight assists a game that's almost ten assists. Okay, he's the only player averaging game near triple double. That's why he's my current MVP. Casey, who you got my current MVP right now? I'm liking Anthony Edwards right now. He's not even in the running. And that's the thing. The league doesn't do that They go by household names, and

no they don't. I'm saying, like, you gotta give these other players. It's the same name, the same household names. You hear every year every janis Joker and yeah Lebron Steph before that, I you know, honest with you, before ten games in, Steph, it's changed. But stph, I see what you're saying. You're right, usually same five names, rotation of them, no matter how how your stats look. For any other player, if you're not that top household name. You're not getting the vote,

okay. And my thing is, and I like the way you're going with direction you're going because you're picking somebody different, which I commends you on. I don't think, I think to me, he to me, because you're saying the most valuable player right yeah, you're right. Most valuable player to their team right now is Anthony Edwards. And on top of that, to go to your argument, the Timberwood are number one team in the West right now, number one one one team in the West right now, and

that's because of Edwards. I'm not gonna to get it to but look, look at Denver's record. He got those numbers, but they down there on the border of being five hundred. Who uh, Denver, Denver, I'm talking about cat. You know what I'm saying. Fourteen and nine. That's five more losses than Minnesota. Yeah it is, Yeah, it is Minnesota's. And we'll talk about But okay, let me give your mind real quick. You know what, I have so many different but I'm a miss trust

they got the same record as the Lakers. I'm messing with that. Key, go Anthony Edwards. I like that you're messing with that I'm messing with that you date you in and that he you have. Hey, let me tell you something. Ay Everwards is an uper coming star. He's an upper coming star. So then why is it he's on the number one team for now? He's the number one team. You're the main one who said this. You've been saying this for years, since we've been doing this. You

said it's the most valuable player to their team. Right, is joker not the most valuable player? He's on the team, he's playing and it's still fourteen to nine. I'm messing with. But I will say this, Uh, Jamal Murray was hurt for a while, but I'm just saying it was gonna put out. So then is Jamal Murray that is a uh you know what I'm saying? Is it Jamal and the Denver Nuggets is a joker in the Denver Nuggets? And you know it's the funny things. Like I said

before, it we're looking at it from Dray perspective. He's a triple almost tripled up. If he's not a triple double, he's damn near a triple double every night. That's the last four years doing it. For four years has been doing the same thing for four years. Dang the triple double every night and it got him what one one one to back to back and he wonted Player of the Year with the m v P. Here's the the first player to do that his MIC and he earned it. I heard it.

I'm like it was, like I said before, that's in the league. But what I'm saying, like I said before, that's what these people do. And that's why people it's hard to give somebody MVP three years in a row because this is just what they do. And to me, last year, I think Joker should have won it and b you know, he wanted fine whatever, and he didn't get hurt at the end of the year, so it's easier to give it to him. But my thing is, I

like the direction you're going. You got the number one team and the best player on that team, which is Anthony Edwards. I'm messing with that, Anthony Edwards. I'm messing with that now. I don't think he'll win it because probably come back Player of the Year, but still or most come back, most improved. But yeah, MVP, I don't think it's most improved because this game is most improved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm messing with that defensive Player of the Year, the guy we all love to hate.

Who to go back. I'm going to Brook Lopez that I feel like he got robbed because they got the best record. Anthony Edwards is averaging twenty four point four, five point six and four point eight rebounds. So with that being said, you can't give Edwards the MVP. Why not without giving Rudy Gobert the Defensive Player of the Year. No, because it takes defense to win those games too, and there's nobody doing more defensive stuff other than

Rudy. Then maybe Anthony Davis and Yannis. That's all you do, that's all you do. We all got our rolls, right, What did Royman do? What did Rodman dobound? That's it? What does Gobert do? Rebounding, block shots? I'm not gonna. I'm gonna that's your pick, that's what That's fine. My pick is brook Low. I feel like he got robbed last year. He's still doing the same stuff he was doing last year. He did your robbed, I would agree, So I'm gonna go

with Brook Loz. Detensive so far, Brook so far, brook Brook defense is he a little slow, but he's slow and that's what that's what killed them in the Indiana series. Here his slowness, Yeah, his slowness for that here, I give him that, like you got that Haliberd. He forty As a coach, you gotta figure out how to slow the game down so that it don't kill him. We're gonna get back to that Bucks talk. Uh, coach of the year not Griffin? Who not Adrian Griffin.

We know who it is. I didn't say the last person to win it? Uh, who you got coach of the year. So see, this one could really be a toss up for me because you gotta consider the coach of the Celtics again, you gotta consider the coach of the Timberwolves. You gotta consider the thunder. Uh, you gotta consider the Magic. I mean, listen, Minnesota, go ahead. No, I was gonna say, speaking of them, my coach of the year, I don't even know his

name. I don't know his name, you don't for the Rockets almost it was it was sarcast I hope. So I mean the way he was talking to well, since you don't know yours, my coach of the year right now is from the Orlando Magic's Jamal Moseley. Okay, I didn't know his name. That's why. Okay, it's Jamal Mosley. Because no one had Orlando here this early, no one. Orlando's playing exciting ball. Can't wait to see them next week against our bucks. Moseley a brother, you know.

I'm cheer for everybody black. Happy to see him coaching, coaching that way up Minnesota. Here's why I can't give it to him. Because they have at Worsk, because they have Bobert, because they have Cat. Orlando has nobody. That nobody, I'm gonna say they got nobody. They just have a bunch of guys, have a bunch of role players that are jelling. Well, I get that they have a bunch of role players that are jailing. And they got what's his name. This is dude's second year.

It was Pablo was Pablo. Yeah, but I'm going with Mosley right now. You don't give it nobody. Let's just curry. You don't give nobody. That's not true. I think the honest to win many times. You see who you got your coach of the year, bro so far, twenty three games. I'm liking. I'm not an okay se coach they're young. And then the top of this then is in the West Daggett, I don't know how say his name, smart even butcher, Johnny Knot. And they

be honest with you, they had a golden state number. Oh well, everybody, everybody got golden state number. Right, I don't know, I don't know about this, Okay, got the number. Specifically, we got the we got your number. And my team two or three and my team

and my team they're not the Bucks are my team. I just happened to be a fan of Steph Curry. You act like I can't be a fan of Case is a Bucks fan, but he's also a Lebron guy, right, and you're a closet packer fan, but you're also a DA guy through my blood. Yeah. And then when that's why I want to talk the Lakers, I'm looking at I'm looking at you. Well, who's your team? Oh yeah, Mike Colley in the Utah Jazz and the Orlando Magic. I'm like it. I'm liking ok though, coach. Let's say also,

they got the former Milwaukee kid on the on their coaching staff. Mike Wilkes shout out to Mike, Yeah, I know that. Yeah, work. They're developing young guys. But I like Orlando just a slight edge over him, and they're actually fun to watch to man, if you haven't had a chance to watch Orlando, no one does, no one has ature. But you know, I was listening to us coming in and Kesey last you. Kesey was talking. You said team were slow. He's talking about teams that

run, magic run because they're young. The young teams are running. You either got to have size or you gotta be a run and gun team in this league. Right now, I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now, I wasn't gonna go down the list, but Rookie of the Year is gonna be obvious one Victor ain't. I don't see them. I don't even think I heard of any other rookies. The guy that was a guy in Detroit and Troy and twins and Okay, see oh yeah,

and Chad. Now the Chad home brewing can get some more. To be honest with you, it depends what Okay, see layd at at the end of the year, I can see him taking away the Rookie of the Year. To be honest with you, I know to your point, you talk about Rick there's no way that Victor wingspan is not winning. Man, that's cool, But if your team is at the bottom of the barrel and they done lost fifteen in a row, no not giving you tapping. Lebron got

it when Cleveland sucked. They didn't suck that bad. All got it when Charlotte sucked. They sucked that bad like the bottom of the barrel. Well, you know San Antonio is the bottom of the barrel. They're rebuilding, they're getting lottery. Well, you can't get Rookie the Year. I'm sorry, as long as Victor played sixty five games. Again they didn't say. I mean, I'm not saying I'm not I'm saying he shouldn't. I'm saying, if you're gonna pick a rookie of the year, pick a rookie year

thinking some serious impact. But we know how that's gonna go. Most Improved Player of the Year. I think it's like I said, I think I think it's Anthony Davis. I mean Anthony uh Edwards, but I like the m V him for EV and P. I like Tyre's Halliburd And it's most improved Player because didn't nobody talked about him last year. I mean, they did, but they didn't. They was losing, but he wasn't. He wasn't playing like he is. Now that's true, okay because them turnovers?

Yeah, three turn off is just uh what that three? Five? And one of the like ten games? When did we get okay with celebrating mediocre? What are you talking about? The Pacers are six and we said they're winning five and we said they're winning compared to last year. They're in fifth place compared to last year. Cdre to think about it in the last ten seasons, didn't say that, don't say you know what I'm saying there. And here's my thing. Here's my thing that the Bucks are in fifth place.

You'll be in here having a whole fit. The expectations are different. The expectations are different, yes or no. Yes, So that's why because that's okay, I'll give you that. And you know I want to This is the NBA podcast, So I like to expand our horizon here. It can't be Lebron James, Steph Curry and the Bucks. That's it. Let's give some love and spread out. Hey, we're talking about to every shots, bro, who're talking today? Lebron James. Okay, all right,

cool. Did you throw Michael in there? You don't throw Michael, you bring Michael. Shout out to slaughter chat. He said, Chet is looking great? He is. I said that Chet Homer is looking phenomenal. Who you like to talk about? Lucas, Mike Conley and the Memphis Grizzlies. My most approved play. Shout out to Mike doing this thing over there in Minnesota. You're shooting forty percent from the three point range. Yeah. My most improved is Halliburton so far. I like that you gave yours to you

who Edwards? Actually, I wonder what can he do both? I guess if Giannis can win m v P and defensive players, that's different. That's a that reward to me. You can't do both to win. You know what I'm gonna say this, You can't do both. But you gotta be balling. I was, you gotta be balling and win Most Improved and MVB. You gotta be ball Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's never been

down. I don't think it has ever been done either, But I'm saying you gotta be ball can also win and most improved too, because he stepped his game up. Orlando Oh, okay, I can see that. No, I can't. In the second year, it's not not when you're competing with Edwards, you're competing with Halliburton, you're competing with Jamal Murray. You're competing with players that are just last year missed the statch and step and habits it again. But yeah, what's the next one? Is he touch player

of the Year Dame Lillard? Yeah, that's that's a lot. That's a lot, Dame Lillard. You want to win a game, put him in it two minutes to go. Yeah, I can see that case. Most clutch. You better not say Lebron because we know you. You'll find a way to Lebron this up. And I didn't even say Steph. I didn't even say Steph. You call Lebron n No, I wasn't. Now will Lebron clutch by pass? He would definitely win. I'm just I just can't. I'm just kidding. I like Lebron Anyways, the second greatest ever dollar

is probably Clutch. Clutch, Yeah, Clutch, that's who you got to Yeah, hey, I got Clutch. Yes, dang, I don't think because this is he's gonna be he gonna need it for the Bucks to get to where they want to get. But let's also let's also not downplay. Uh my man's from okay, see shake Gilder. So he is, he's in the MVV conversation but to me, but he's also clutch you think, so what I'm going with Dan? Because right now Dan leaves the league and

clutch point B shy shot shot Alexander Shae can be clutched too. I'm still good to Dang, but SHA's in the tops the playoff predictions and play in now. Right now, we're looking at like I've been. Like I said before, we're looking at the top five teams in the East. I mean top ten teams in the East. Uh, Celtics number one, Orlando number two, Bucks number three, seventy six Ers number four, Indiana Pass number five, Cleveland number six, The Knicks is number seven, eight, the

Brooklyn Nets, nine, Miami ten, the Atlanta Hawks. What's the question? The question is do you think was will stay the same? But do you think some somebody's gonna make a jump from those bottom teams into the playoffs. So this is the one question you're asking us here that's really hard to answer because I mean, we've seen it last year, teams we thought were just great either fell out the playoffs or fell in the play like the Lakers

fell in to play in and end up going to the conference finals. Facts right, the heat were in playing and ended up going. Well, you know what took us out. Let's do champion? Top four? That means two in the Eastern Conference too, in the West champion. Break it down a little bit more. I'm saying, who do you think is gonna be in the Eastern Conference finals? Who the top to in the East and the top two in the West? No, who do you think is going to

be in the Western Conference finals? Is gonna be Eastern Conference finals? And who you think is gonna be a champion? Okay? So the top four in each? I said, yeah, Well, I said, I'm not saying top four because eighteen because AC could be. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying that who we think is going to be basically saying conference finals and champions? I said, final four, final four, champ, champion. Uh at twenty games in? Is this a season prediction or based on

twenty games in? So are we I'm saying prediction for the year? Okay? So I have in the conference finals. I have the Celtics and the Bucks. Over in the West Western Conference, I have the Denver Nuggets. That last one gets tough. Have the Denver Nuggets and the Phoenix Suns. Really yeah, Golden State, I don't think looking at their season, I don't think there's a bounce back there. I think there will be some good games. I'll think there'll be some wins. There might even be playing.

But I don't have them going to the long haul. Not The Western Conference is too deep. It's way too deep, and teams are figuring out. What I love about the new NBA is the superstar two and three superstar players. It's no more because the caliber of players of a young Steph, a young KD. They don't exist anymore on the same team. Right. So NBA champions this year really quick. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. No I would saying who you got for the West?

I told you Phoenix, Sorry, go ahead with the NBA CHAMPI is this year and I hate to say it, but if they don't get it done this year, they never will. The Boston Celtics, if they don't get it done this year, fat key Zeke Terrence kicks crazy? What did you get? Thank you? Because your picture popped up and it said that man, relax, that's your Instagram, that's our ninety four feet I g when have you ever called me? I was going to address okay, Mark,

Keith Davis, Isaiah Moore. First I didn't say nothing. Were you was co signing signing like you save here? I mean saying fat key? What as like pow? Were you saying, Francis? Just show everybody in the nation shut up getting off it savior? Anybody here got fans and st up with dragon? Isn't that right? No? So anyway, you're gonna play something back that if the Boston Celtics don't get it done this year, they won't. So I got to Boston Celtics. I won't agree with that.

I got maybe okay, but my heart wants the Bucks. I have the Bucks and the Sixers in the Eastern Conference. I lost so much faith in Boston this this past season after they let Miami beat them the way they did. I know, but I'm just saying like there's something missing over there. You know what's missing that they went they a bitch, Boston bitch is a little bit. They don't look championship caliber anymore. Boston to me, they

don't the championship calider got. They got an eight nine rotation, a solid eight nine rotation. We'll talk about it. Well, I'm only asking because he's it goes with this. I'm just saying, but they don't have Giannis either, the league's best player. So that's the difference right there between the Bucks in Boston. He ain't Jannis, and they don't have Dame Lillard, a clutch shooter on that roster on Boston. And you see what that jumper

got them. You see what that jumper got them last playoffs? Nothing. He went County exactly when they need at that jumper, it was nowhere to be found. And on top of that, what's the call. I just think, couldn't go left? Yeah, yeah, but you don't need to. I just think with with Gianni's you said seventy six ers. With with Gianni's and and dames ability to shoot the ball, they stent a better chance to me. And if the Bucks make a move to get one more stud

there, it doesn't have to be like a superstar All Star. We just need a stud. You know, somebody's gonna fill in voids and I think we're champion. We're ready for championship. So you got Boston, you got Boston seventy six ers West, and I got the Sixers because they got rid of the drama. They got rid of the problem, they got rid of the drama and now they playing basketball killing. And I like Tyrees Maxie. Maxie is a stud and he's gonna be a problem for people in the playoffs.

That's true. Well, it's true in my Western Conference. You got to give them a number. They props until they knocked off They there, and then my one to go with them is the Lakers. I like the Lakers because they got size, and I like the way the Lakers role players are playing, like Cam Reddish and and in them and Vanderbilt and them, there's some studs on defense, and that makes a big difference for a roster like like the Lakers, because Lebron needs defensive players. A d needs somebody

that's gonna help him play defense. So you're saying, are you saying that, oh, I'm putting I ain't putting. I'm putting word in their mouth. You saying they have what it takes to go in through the Western Conference. But they're stacked right now. They stacked. You heard the question. I heard the question, who you get the win? I see the Lakers and the Bucks in the finals, and who and I see the Bucks beating the Lakers. So you have the Bucks winning the title this year. I

got the Bucks winning it this year over the Lakers. Yep, I'm I just feel championship vibes again, like it's something brewing in the air that we're not that's like that year. That like that year when we want it, but you can you can feel it. It's on that. It's on that cuss you feel. Remember how we were to begin the season, were kind of shaky, you know what I'm saying, and then as the season went on, you like, oh, we're gonna be straight this year. I

feel say that the Bucks talk. I'm gonna say I'm I'm gonna say it like I said, the Bucks made they move that year that made them get over that hump. Though, Remember what was the move? Uh dog we got dogs? What was the move Brownie and Tucker? Remember that trade we made? I was a mid season trade, Yes it was. It was God damn because he's no we talked about this, That's not what he do like I said, the Bucks are the Bucks are on that? Do they

on that custard again of being ready? They on that cuss. That's that's what I'm being honest. They on the cuss of being ready. So this is what I got for my top four because they only lost seven games too many, that's only two games out of first The games that they lost they shouldn't have lost. But I'm gonna say it for Bucks Talk. I got my final four Eastern Conference got ready, Yeah, final fource in Celtics and

the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Okay, wow, you're so you got the Bucks getting bounced in the second round, bounced in the second round, Okay, okay. And then for my Western Conference, I got, I got, I got, I got. I got the Kings in Denver. Mm hmm, I got the Kings in Denver. You've been drinking no, Because first off, Dame can win you a series. That's one that's first round. We'll talk about in the Bucks Talk. We'll save it for Buckstoll.

Let me just let me tell you why I got my predictions. A matter of fact, I'm glad you explained your predictions. Appreciate it you too. My think about my thing about seventy six ers. Like you said before, they got rid of the drama. They're playing some good ball. I feel like in Bead is letting loose. He's been doing he like he can't, can't nobody hold me. I don't have no issues. I'm good and MAXI don't mind playing the back role. He like, I'm gonna get mine.

It's cool, and he's due for a big contract. Boston Celtics, I still think they're the team to be. Now what happened last year, I don't think that kind of run is gonna happen again no time soon. But I do think that with the boss, they still their team to beat because they have I'll say this, the way their roster is constructed, I don't like it, but it works for them. I do agree with you that some people do need to step up, and I think as time goes by

they'll that'll happen. But I don't like I do like there. I just feel like they're a top two team in the Eastern Conference. So I got them two. And then on the West, like I said before I got to me, Sacramento Kings are a wild card and if they have beat the UH sacrament If they had beat Golden State, they would have made to the to the Western Conres Finals. If they had beat Golden State, what was the fifth we all be drunk. I get it. You said, if

who beat them? If Sacramento last year, if they had beat Golden State, they have been in the NBA finals of the Western Conras Final, and they'd have gave the Nuggets a problem. The Sacramento No. I told you the Nuggets was gonna sweep anybody they played, and I don't any including Golden State. And let me talk about the Nuggets real quick. They have a problem because, like I said, they lost what they in like fourth or fifth SPI right now, and that's because they lost Jamal Harry was hurt the

lost Brown. He's gonna get hurt again. That man. I'm not cursing Him'm just saying's gonna get hurt again. It looks like one of those years. Maybe not, I'm saying like one of those years. So I'm got the Nuggets making it, but I'm I'm respecting that they're champs. That's the only reason I gotta make it. But I don't see that happening. And then for my winner, I got the Nuggets, repeating it's possible, I could see that. I got the Nuggets repeating I do think they'll get it

together. Yeah, I think they'll get it together. M uh Slaughter said, I want to see if Maxie can be clutched in the playoffs like Murray does for the Joker and Middleton does for the Bucks. So we'll see about that. But yeah, that's that's Those are my predictions, and you can take that to the bank. Hold up. So on the tenth of December twenty three, Andre predicts the Boston Celtics versus the Denver Nuggets, with the Boston Celtics winning it. Casey says Bucks and Lakers, with the Bucks won

it. Zeke I said Boston Celtics versus Denver Nuggets, Denver Nuggets winning. Now, this does not mean as the season goes on and the schedule changes, we say I like the Bucks winning it, that does not mean that. Because I know how you do, how I do? Yeah, how I do. Yeah, you may come in here, I mean Golden City doing the thing. No, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about circumstances can change predictions. Yeah, that's your thing. Don't

point out can they not. Can circumstances change predictions. Yes, you're right. If Jamal Murray breaks his leg tomorrow, that can change everything. Steph Curry got hurt and I changed it that year. But y'all rolled me like I don't want to hear I don't want to hear Dre, who's hurt? Who's hurt? So at the end of the day, in twenty five games and we're recording the show, did willing my hope is that I can say

the Bucks will go to the finals. Hey, the fan in me, well, love it, same, love it, same same matter of fact. Let's just get into Bucks talk. Let's do it. Casey, you made a wow accusation and me and Dre who was back you see it? Because we don't see it. I show us what you're seeing. Please tell

me what you're seeing. Because the fact that we lost to Indiana, the fact that Bobby challenges not only the coach but the players too, because we're not playing to the standard that we are expecting, because we are what are you seuse we in the first twenty games. Like the year the Bucks won the championship, we struggled at the beginning of that season, and everybody wanted

Bud fired. Do you not remember that? Yes, because they were doing the same thing the Bucks are doing right now until we fi that one piece that we needed, that the Bucks need to do this year. So you're saying, via a trade, via a move, we can do, we can turn this around. Yes, we are one trade away from being ready. If we don't make it, we were gonna make the trade. Then I don't know, because it gotta be it gotta be made. You You're right, we do need something. I don't know what that is, but

we need. But I don't have that feeling that that year were last year feeling. I do. I got that same feeling when they said Bucks and six. I don't know because the way we see. Here's the thing, here's my thing. Last year we talked about defining moment, defining because and I'm gonna tell you why that championship. Let's say we would have lost the

Lakers. I would have been good with that because the with you, like I said before, Darvin Ham coached a great game, he coached a great game, and him coaching a great game against the Bucks, to me, the Bucks aren't Honestly, they're not predictable. The fact that we don't have an identity. You know what Our identity is clutch. No identity is clutch. Dang. No, I'm not saying dang. I'm saying, last two

minutes, dam has to save us. What if he don't make those shots, then we lose, or gets hurt, or he gets hurt, or he have an off night, then we lose. You can't, you can't. Seriously, you can't. I'm gonna say seriously, but you can't sit here and say our season is depending on Damian Lillard making these clutch shots. Yeah, because it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna be a it's always a fifty to fifty. Because we also have a chance Middleton making a splash

too. That hasn't made a big splash for the Bucks yet too. So those two things, either the Bucks make a trade or Middleton makes a splash, can put us over the hunt easily, easily with the over the hump, with the over the hump, Middleton with a Dame and a Yiannis. You tell him he can't win a championship with the way Brooke playing defense like he did that same year we won the championship. I'm gonna say no, then you need to stop going to the games. I can make that happen.

Make it happen. You're bad, your bad? What the reason? What? What was the reason? What? What was the reason for it? But last time, this time, right now, what's the reason for you saying something? Because because because Kesey said you need to stop going to game, you didn't have to say nothing. You had to say nothing. But it was like, and I was gonna say. I was like, let me see if you're gonna hold it, and as I predicted, you rolled up. I can make that happen. It was no problem. So

what was the reason, what was the reason? Where is what is it that the weird of that, because it's that of him just laying it be instead he just leave it it be? What was the reason? Because I think you could help yourself. I think you couldn't throw it out there, man, So he probably tossed me along, so I take you, you know what. I was like, I'm looking at it like you, like I'm working. I'm looking at it like he could he could just lay this up. But no, no, now dragon, nah nah, I got

a double I gotta double bunk tomahawk. This anyway, head do it. But it's the fact that you didn't have to like what was the reason? What's crazy? But no, you are so critical of the Bucks, but yet your Dallas cowboys can come in and sink it up and you still got championship hopes. No, I don't how I don't you do? Don't you gloat all season about your cowboy cow girls whatever you want to call them,

and they let you down? If you if you see the Bucks, the Bucks, the Bucks are still top three, the two games out of first place, and you still have no faith in them to even make it to the final. You don't even have faith in them even making it to the Eastern Conference finals. I don't see it. You need to stop watching sports man, I don't see it. You need to cut your sports back out here my things, because now you're putting on the show. Here's my thing.

What do you see because we're predicting this on the hopes of Dame Lillard being not only clutch player. Were two games out of with two games out of first with a player who has never played with us and didn't even have a chance to even come to training camp. He did come train camp, he was in preseason. He ain't got no reason. He came right at

preseason. He can't write a little bit before. He wasn't at the beginn any of He was in that training camp when the trade camp happens in August, in August, I know, But when did the trade happen September? No, it didn't August. It was hot a side. When he came in the city, Bucks was already in training camp, remember, because they said he wasn't reporting to twelve Budge's training camp. Look, I don't know, but the point is, I'm looking at that up because we recorded the

following day. Mm hmm, let's catch up. What are you trying to figure out something? What are you trying to figure out? Was Dame there for? When did when did Dame sign with the Bucks? Jane started the season with us when they didn't play a game. Dame came but when he wasn't for a training camp, I'm saying he was? Was he he was? He came here and uh no, he wasn't. If he was for training camp, it was at the tail end. It was a tail end.

Dame came here because I remember the holiday trade. Dame got here in late August. He got here at the end of He got in here at the end of September, got say, but the games hadn't started because the season didn't start until the end of October, so he was part training. He was part trained when the training cap start late September. October we did preseason the week of October twelfth. I think he didn't play in any preseason games but the last one. Yeah, just like y'all need the superstar.

Yep, Dre, you're being decide, sending shots. You're being unusually quiet about this topic. Well I think I mean, well, number one, you and kise when y'all get started, it's just a show. So I like to show the world that I don't actually do the most interrupting here. But the reason that so here we go with this again, whatd of just going along? You want to put people on the spot listen? I mean they listen to the show. Now, what was the reason? What was

the reason? So he talks to me the other live so you both had to get a poster tonight. No anyway, I I don't know, man, I just and you know the messed up part is last time when when you made your Bowl prediction the year we got bounced out by Miami. I've seen it. I was wide, but yes, we got this and listen to me this year. Listen, listen, that's not what I mean. I'm telling you what I'm telling you right now. My whole thing is you

have to look at the bigger picture. You have a clutch closer in Dame and you have a clutch closer in Middleton. I'm seeing on top last year though, on top of losing games to teams we should beat, where is our signature win? For the last ten years, we've been losing the teams that we shouldn't lose to, as the Milwaukee Bucks, because teams like Charlotte has been having our number for about ten years straight and will come in no

matter what our season record is and kick our butt. Right, and it was one of the teams that we should have beat that beat us, right I'm talk about but you know what I'm talking about, just saying Boston, Philly, you know what I'm talking about them top five teams got injuries. Middleton. I agree. I agree with you on this. Middleton is very important to this roster, more important than I originally thought. In the Bucks. You need to make a decision either we're gonna move on, or we're

gonna keep them, or we're gonna keep them. We're gonna keep them, and they need to make that decision in the next answer this question. I give the Bucks thirteen days to make a decision on that, the next thirteen day, the next thirteen days, because after Christmas break then the real games begin Christmas Day. You mean I said two weeks thirteen days, Yeah, but two weeks away from Christmas. So so I'm gonna say this about the Bucks. I I'm a fan, there's no doubt about it. We give

you a season ticket. I wasn't gonna say that, but I watched the games. I should have camp holiday one hundred and fifty percent. Not right. Get him, sister, Sheila, he up here, he being he being disrespectful. Listen, when you can pick up a star like Dame, it's okay to let go of holiday. And this is this is just how I keep saying. People don't know how to let certain things go that they're comfortable with. We're comfortable. We got so comfortable with him, I ain't

even like it. Ain't it. I would have rather had Middleton go than holiday for two reasons. Here's why I don't believe we're the championship caliber two undersized scards. Listen to me. We were fourth defensively. Now we're twenty four. Defense matters in this game, and Dame on defense, ain't it offensively? Dame is a killer. That's who you want. You want the ball in his hands. He is mister clutch. Giannis is gonna Yannis. I want the Bucks to kill it. I do. It's still early.

We know we have a whole half of season left in a quarter to show folks that the Bucks can get it done. My thinking on this subject matter is I'm not even thinking it's so much a trade. I think it's really coaching. I think it comes down to coach. Actually, we're not number twenty one anymore. What do we now? It eight top ten, we're number three, and what defensive rating? Cap cap cat Let me see that there's number one? Let me see that Boston. Can I see that?

Police? Can I can I see that police? Wait there, they're going by defensive ratings. That's not that that means. That's not what that means. That's not what that means. We're one of the worst defensive teams in the league. Again, look it up. So Basically, we all want what's best for the Bucks. We do. You all have your heads wrapped around the Bucks need to do a trade? Oh I do for who? And for what? I have not heard except for these rumors y'all keep making

up in y'all head. There ain't been one trade link to the bus now, is it woe? No, it's not woj But people are talking because we're missing something. Now here's my next here? What about this trade? Real quick? It's another trade Bucks in the Grizzlies. We get Marcus Smart for Bobby. Right now, the number one defensive ranked team is the Minnesota Timberwolves, and the Bucks are number twenty four. Still we're in the bottom. We're twenty two. We're in the bottom. Top team. Okay,

but at the end of the day, you got Memphis at twelve. Does it really make that big of a difference. And look at the record, I mean yes and no. I see what you're saying. The Bucks started out terrible, but we've gotten better, don't. You don't just to climb the numbers overnight. That was our identity though, that's my thing. That was our identity and we don't have that anymore. By the end of the season. And so if we're there about the end of the season, because

I don't think the Bucks started out. I don't think the Bucks started out with that defensive rating. The year Holiday came here, we got that. No, we had to earn it. We earned that, We earned it through holidays. It took time. He was our defensive anchor, but it took time of chemistry though, right, And that's just who we were. We were there and how Yiannis and you have Holiday, two of the top ten defensive players in the NBA, your defensive rate is gonna go up.

Dame is not a defensive player. He what he is. And then on top of that, these guys are thirty, they are who they are. John Portland at number ten and they six and fifteen. So the defensive rating stuff is kind of like not it does. It doesn't make up break then at this moment right now, because at the end of the season, that's where it matters. Half second half of season. So again, I like the Bucks. I like our chances to compete. I just don't have that

this is a chance. If the Bucks are a championship team, of course, I just don't get the feeling that they're going to send me to trade again. What's the trade again? You said there isn't any He's making it up. I'm just saying, sim me to trade he was talking about. I'm sorry I shouldn't told America that your stats are wrong. The trade. This is a possible trade. He said it's not wo so it don't matter. No, I was gonna say, Marcus Smart, we get Marcus Smart

and we trade Bobby, Pat and bow Champ. No, that don't even make sense because that's giving up way too much. Marcus Smart. Smart's hurt right now, ain't even playing even playing not no, no, but you're talking about Marcus Smart for giving up Bobby and Pat and bow chat our future. No, no, no, no saying our future. He is the future chat. But then it ain't looking bright. Please stop saying taking him, Please stop taking them to the games. I'm tying of this. Look.

I like bow Champ, nice guy, great guy, but he's not the next Giannis. I didn't call him the next year. You say he's the future. When you say he's the future, you're talking about no. Then on top, we're talking about the NBA, where if you're not a top five, top ten, he's not even a top twenty. You don't say he's the future. We need to we need to get better in you said what is there? He was not? He wasn't even wait when when the Bucks knew when the hold on. It's the potential that you can see

in the player that if are our future. Bull Champ has a lot of potential in room to grow. And that's what you have to look at. Okay, seiling is not cap you know, go ahead, go ahead, that's what we're talking about. Bold Champs. Seiling is not capped. And you can see he got so much room to grow and learn. For what Because that's the point that I was making is I'm not. I didn't call I didn't. I did not once call Bowl Championni. I did not once

say the top player. Teams have to have a player to plan their future around. And for the Bucks is bow Champ. You think they drafted him just because they drafted him because he's a nice brol and he can have the potential. That's cool. Going back and forth, Come let me say this, No, no, no, no, let me just say this. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. I'm not I don't have anything against bow Champ. I don't have anything against bow champ.

You sure. I'm starting to go with Kesey's theory of you riding the bucks. Now it's getting a little out of hand. No, what I'm saying is this, y'all sitting there talking about man bow champions, the future bow champions, this bowl champions dead. I'm saying that this window, this championship window, this championship window is not a huge one. This championship window is

a small one. So you talk about when you talk about bow champions, the future bow champions, did if Yannis were to leave, If Yannis were to leave, you're telling me we're good. No, not what we're saying, So don't tell me he's the future. What I'm saying is this, this is a small window. We have our future. So we have an opportunity to get rid of somebody who's not shooting. Well, that's Bobby.

If we have somebody who is older but also kind of irrelevant on this team, one of those older white guys you're talking about, we need to get rid of, get rid of him. Pack. If you're talking about somebody who guys you said, I'm saying that, but you and you and I know your connections. Blah blah blah. You don't want to say it, I'll say it for you. One of the older white guys. Get him out of here. On top of that, we only got rid of one. I would never say that we got rid of Grayson Allen. I would

never say that. But I will say is we do have a lot of players on the team that shouldn't be there. But you don't trade three of your core pieces of your offense for Marcus Smart a. You make it it seem like Marcus Marcus Smart as the former decent player of the year. Yes, no, three years ago, two years ago. He's not a he's not a savior. He's hurt. Boston got rid of him for a reason.

Okay, Boston because they still number one without him. Look I'm not saying and we're still top three without Holiday, we have all that defensive player of the year stuff. I'm gonna say this saying we have an issue. You just got you just gotta have. You just gotta have the right chemistry, right time, and the right coach to have your players. We don't have. So if you look at the Lakers and Beth if you look at Cam cam defense with no team he's ever played for. But Darvin ham has

got him to buy in on the defensive end and he looks good. What you're talking about is what the Bucks are lacking. And you think Marcus mart can do that one player, one person. Do we or do we not need some type of help on defense? Yes for you, absolutely do Okay, I'm look, I'm not just saying is we need some help bow Champs? Untouchabow for me, bro and you missed the draft picks we have.

Listen, we have nothing for the future. We have nothing. If the Bucks trade away these three players now we're riding on yan Is for the next three hoping that Dame resigns into at his older age, you have nothing. So if you trade away bow Champ now you have nothing to restart with when Yannis does walk away, hold up, hear me out, and then and then you can bring us home and TikTok us or whatever it is, y'all. Do you listen to some ticktok more? I'm gonna tall like this,

Andrew Zavi Douglass full name. I ain't building no more Bucks teams, I ain't owning no more features. I'm not So if you're trading away talent that can get better. Like Kesey said, to build around and bring pieces around in the future. I'm not with it. I'm not with it. And Marcus Smart. You could have said anybody, but you said Marcus Smart. Anybody you said, Marcus Smart for three players, that's nowhere near a valuable

trade. That trade wouldn't even go through. No commissioner wouldn't even let you do that stupid trade. What did you even get that from? Where you picked that up from? Now, I'm just saying, what what? What? What made you pick that trade website? There's a mock trade. We picked it up Wikipedia. I don't know if well, then you need to stop using them as your source. This thing. The numbers don't add up

because you asked Okay, I ask your question. Because we've been going back and forth about this trades and stuff like that for the last couple of weeks. Actually we ain't getting zach lavine for nobody. You got to give up something, You got to give up something. But three players for Marcus Smart, you got to give up something. Marcus Smart is a tip for tat trade one player for one player? Sorry, all right, okay, Like I'm not saying it I'm just saying this, and I give what y'all y'all

coming from. Be honest with you think y'all coming from a fandom, because Bobby ain't been putting up numbers like he's not like he used. And Bobby can be on the table. Bobby can absolutely be Chap, but not Bobby Bowchamp and Connieton. You can have one for Marcus, but you can't have three for Marcus. No, I'll give you two. That's stupid. You can get Bobby from Marcus, but you can't have three from Mark. And then on top of it, you talk about being stupid. Why would somebody

take Let's say, let's just say we put up Bobby and Pat. Whybout somebody take that? That's the stupid trade. I think I'll come from a fandom. There's not a fandom. Listen, let's keep it a buck. Let's keep it a buck. Since you want to talk about fandom, I'm sorry. Portis nor Conington are trade assets, so neither trade could just be centered around them. They're not assets, Okay, they're just pieces. So you know we got assets Chap, so you know we have assets Boat Champing

for middle Those are the ass he's older. We're talking about older guys here, and the Bucks aren't trade Middleton. We know that. Yeah, but we're talking about older guys here. I get you. I get you. This has been another episode of ninety four. So we're up. Just so America is clear, we do not have an agreement, nor do we think we are not on the same page as how the Bucks of the tress. What's happening on our roster? Mind you, America, we are here debating

this for a third seated team, a third seated team. Have we become that line that the Bucks can't make any mistakes? Have we become hold of have we become that arrogant that the Bucks have to win it every year? You take that that packer mentality out the window. Okay, that's what you're doing. Don't do that. Don't you do that. Don't you take that packer mentality over here. That's that's the packer, that's the packers, that's

the cowgirls, that's that packer stuff. And then by the time, right, good people, by the time the boat sink, then you want to hop off the ship, hop off the ship rally. Anyway, let's wrap it up. Uh, but anyways, this has been another episode of ninety four feet by cast. Shout out to my brother Kesey. Appreciate it good being here. Appreciated being here again with you suckers well sucker and my brother Trey, thank you for coming in on the brother dre. Yeah we are

the brother title. It's been good, y'all. I always enjoyed this THEAE ninety minutes with my brothers. You can get us on on all social media platforms Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. You can also listen to all stream platforms Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Preaker, and SoundCloud. Agree with us, probably not. This is ninety four feet podcast. Peace, good people