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happened to David? Right? He holded off the island. He got a boat off the island. Anybody come to see you otis and he died. He had a leading group and he died of a cocaine overdose in a parking lot. So if you want to be saving, so you know, what's good? Everybody? What's goods good? Always a pleasure to be before the fans, the basketball nation. Jesus, what's up? What's good? Good people? It's another day. Hey, I'm great man like life is good. Life is good. Uh, it's always good. This is the It's
always good. This is the last episode of the season, season finale, per se season four. Uh, he's in season four. You're gonna go out with a bang. It it is going with a bang. Free agent started early, starts in eight minutes to be exact. Yeah, it starts early. So this is uh, this is this is gonna be a long, lengthy episode. Please sit with us if you're a basketball vent, you want to sit with us anyway, because we got some stuff. Well, well, breaking news already are we can we do that? David? Not
yet. I'll get there. We just got breaking news across my teams, got breaking Oh my god, you are David. It's not even that serious, you know, I think, I mean, your breaking news might not be the one I'm referring to. Well, okay, you want to break it, so no, you breaking first? We got the same apps. You break it first. You breaking first, because it's catching up, because it might be different. What's the first one you're breaking? My breaking?
I have a couple of breaking But go ahead me and we talk. I got I got Chris Paul getting waved by the Golden State Warriors. That is phenomenal. And you know why that is. You know why that is. They're about to put all that money into Paul George. You better believe it. You better believe it. Well, then here's ada. The other breaking news is that James Harden decided a two year deal worth seventy million. Now that's a little bit more. That's a little bit more. I am still
surprised that he's taking discounts. Man, who James Harden? What you mean he's taking a discount? That's only thirty five million a year? I'm sorry? Is he worth more James Harden on any team? Not to me, because you know how I am with the money. Oh, I know who you is? James Harden on any team as a super Max player. No,
the days are over. The days are over. You think, so the days are looking stats up. I don't know, man, I don't even want to say his especially considering I'm shocked that he signed without a commitment from PG. Now that's a little bit because that's gonna make that team terrible. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like James Harden is one of those guys. He can't carry a team, but he can make a team slightly better with the what he can do. He's a playmaker.
He's a playmaker. He's not that. He's not that put the team on my shoulders guy anymore. I think he had those days are behind him and he realizes I'm older now I can do more things. And here's the latest breaking news. Klay Thompson to meet with the l A Lakers and the Clippers to accept You just want to tell it? All I think is this Donald? You say that now, but then you have the you know you downtown all right? With ramp or nothing? You downtown? Oh he's been stealing
his life anyway. He won't lie. But starting with the screen, bro, I know, I said. Starting with Toronto Raptors playing to sign Scottie Barnes to an five five year extension worth two hundred and seventy million. This will be he would become the highest paid player in raptors histy overpaid, underpaid, the just rang who Scottie Barnes over who overpaid? Well, but who else were they going to get in this market? That's all they're gonna get. Whet He played hard. He's their star, he's a starter. I
mean, he's the he's their star. But so second, I think he's the second team All NBA kind of man. Five years, year three. Toronto gonna look at that deal and say, what have we done? Because ain't nobody else going to Toronto? But I get it overpaid, but for Toronto, Hey, you got your sol star buill Toronto. So it's either do that and pay him and he or he leaves, somebody else pay him and you stuck with nothing. Because don't nobody really want to go to Canada?
Canada? I mean, I don't say nobody want to go to can I think Toronto is in the rebuilding phase. I think they had a team, a nice, olid team, and along the way, you know, the stars left, but I don't think nobody left that really made a difference to the point where like CONTENDERSWHI Leonard was gonna leave regardless they knew that was a rental. But I'm saying, like, guys like, what's his name,
Kyle Laurie, are you talking about uh? Freddy? Uh? I'm sorry, I'm just talking about since since their championship that we already knew that once Kawhi left, that team slowly but surely started to fall in ranks. So I think this is a good starting point for Toronto because in five years they pat some draft picks, they can, you know, get some guys, maybe get some guys around. They might even get some guys to come to Toronto. Toronto's good city. Drake, Huh, I don't know,
Drake, just I just listen. I don't like Grab music. This song is really cool. You got him in it. I even like Grab music. But Kendrick went hard on that. It's a little if I'm Drake CJ talk about it? Are they recording Dayton CJ talk about this on your next podcast. Nevertheless, Drake made some interesting accusations and songs like that, gotta be careful with songs like that. He called the man a pedophile. He made a lot of he he made a lot of interesting accusations. So I
like to beat. Let me rephrase it. I like to beat, not so much to song. Thanks. I like making your you know, your social commentary social coming. I had to plug CJ. So what's the name of it, Beaty? Are you plugging it? Brew City Beats. I don't know if you're doing a good job of plugging it, but you're plugging it. Shot out to Bruce City Beats my cousin CJ. He's still in his rookie deal. Yep, he's last year. It was the career high
for him in points, rebounds, and assists nineteen eight and six. So I think those are good stats for a guy who is still young in his rookie deal going into his next phase of his career. Well, here's why I'm okay with it. Even though it's overpaid. I'm always I want to say, just right by the way, I'm over I'm okay with it because I like players that are loyal to their teams and to me. Of course that bag helped, but he could have easily said, you know what,
I'll take forty million. What's the difference between fifty four and forty two more million in taxes? You know what? I'm saying he could have took that talents somewhere else, could have took that somewhere else. So I like that he stayed loyalties. But you're still saying overpaid. I think it's a bit much. Man. That's fifty four million dollars a year for a guy who has approved. We're gonna sit down one of these days, just have a podcast them and I really want to see. Yeah, if Bud be back,
I love to we'll see what we can do. But we'll we'll see, really we can We'll see what we can do, and then we'll just I don't wanna see these numbers you want to give, because I'm just saying, if you want to give, it's like staff, I want to see what you really go pay with your pocket at steps age. Now, he
wouldn't get no fifty million for me. Jesus Christ, why do you think their parton ways with Clay Well that we're gonna get in there, but because you know we're gonna get in there, but Miami, he bam out of Bayo playing society three year, one hundred and sixty six million dollar extent. Jesus and my thing is with Jimmy Buster say the numbers one more time and got my calculator up. Three years, one hundred and sixty six million extension.
Now with Jimmy Butler possibly going fifty five million dollars a year next three years, well at fifty five is really only like twenty five right now, but we're still looking at the big number. Kisy I get it. Taxa is we get it. I'm just saying an era that we in. They get that right off. Trust and believe fifty four million right off? They know right off. Listen to me. I am in circles with very wealthy
people. I'm not one of them, but you better believe that the taxes they're paying up front, the money they give to charities, the money they give or need social or they're getting it right back. They're getting it right back. So a lot of them don't even pay taxes. But that's another story for another day. That's why they give so freely. You think a lot of them have good hearts, yes, But do you think these players, I mean, bron gives millions, he gives millions. I'm talking about
the NBA. I'm talking about the NBA in general right now. Do you think they just want to give all of them just because No, that's why they teach them. Start a foundation, start a scholarship fund, start this because you're going to have to offset paying all those taxes, or you might even owe If you look at some of those players on the thirty for thirty broke, if you watch that documentary, not a lot of them gave money to charity. Not a lot of them gave money to churches. They tricked
off their money. They gave it away, but they didn't give it to the right thing. So I get you, they gonna make all that money back. Though they make all that money back, not really, thanks j I'm saying that what I was trying to say is in the way of inflation, fifty four million today is really like ninety twenty five million. Probably are you taking fifty four today? No, I'm just saying you. It's not like I'm not saying you can't take it, but I'm just saying, like
the value of a dollar is not what it used to be. Here's why I don't agree. I agree, but I don't because it like this. I remember growing up, you can get a dozen eggs for thirty nine cent. Okay, how much a dozen eggs run you right now? Do you know, y'all? Do I know? Because I'm gonna tell you because I go go to shopping a lot about six dollars, about four bucks. But here's the thing, here's the thing, Kesy, think about you before you
three dollars and sixty more than what we pay. Grow up, zick zeke. You're taking the fifty four million dollars you represent Bam out of Baio. You're taking the three fifteen Jason Tatum, and I'm gonna take the Bronnie James four point five million in a year. Guess what the A carton costs? What the same? The same? So your fifty four, your twenty five, my faux, the A carton costs the same. Obviously if you in
California, your gas bible, little mom. But what I'm saying is even even like you said, Bronnie coming in at four point whatever, rookies wasn't getting that back then, that value of four point zero was really only like what was the minimum back then, four hundred, four hundred and fifty something. Yeah. But Kesey, what I'm saying is you can't. Don't everything costs more, don't undervalue a fifty five million dollar contract to say only twenty
five because that's still life change. I'm not I'm not saying it's not a life change, of just saying everybody looking at the number nowadays that like man Miami for I remember, I remember Jordan doesn't even have taxes. I remember Jordan getting his contract and he was making what twenty something million? Thirty million is first his last three years he had thirty thirty five obviously, and we thought that was outrageous. That's I mean, the obvious thing here is the
money situation. I'm looking at this from a basketball per section. Can we do that? I mean, I mean, do you mind? Do you I ain't a de rough and I'm just like, you know, we already know basketball players get playing crazy amount. You talk to an NFL player, You're like, how much you get paid? One hundred and sixty I couldn't see one hundred and sixty six million if I wanted to. But they got a better chance of making a roster than the NBA. Who NFL players,
No, they don't. It's harder. It's harder. Why do you figure that? Because they have a limited number of positions and there is no Hey, let's just send them to the G League. There's no G league. In the NFL, there's and then you if you're talking about if you're talking about the UFL, you're talking about the Canadians. They getting paid no, because they have practice our salary. They didn't pay our salary, so they played. They have practice squads of players who practice, and they're getting paid
our salary. They getting paid minimals. They aint getting paid that twenty five. I'm just saying, you said, at no G there are practice squads, and you like your NBA, they have the G lead. The NFL can't afford to have a whole another league. There are other leagues, but they getting paid the bare minimum. Boom. But my whole thing is there's
like eighty eight spots breaking. The Golden State Warriors are working on a signing trade for Clayton's I'm just saying, if I forget it to the basketball stuff, ya, we want to want a whole financial rate like we that's part of basketball? Is it? What he just getting notifications from getting on Twitter? But my question was, yeah, I believe I'm talking to mister Davis with with Jimmy Buster, with Jimmy Butler possibly going to free agency, next
year. Smart? What are your thoughts on being on this team being BAM's team going forward? I think I told you I called this earlier this season. I did call it, if you let me finish, David, that Jimmy's final days with the Miami Heat. Oh, because what he's okay what he said off season? Yeah? And I think this is for Miami to position a trade. Is this better though? I don't know that Jimmy.
Jimmy shows up mostly when it counts Bam. I have not seen him show up when it counts, but Bam is one of the few solid big men in the game. Again, you asked me, everybody's overpaid, but if I'm Miami, you did a good job locking him up. Jimmy not signing an extension is smart for business because he can get a bigger one next year. And I also think Jimmy's on his way out. I've said it all
season. I think the Jimmy and Miami days are over. Whether it happens before the season begins or by the All Star break, we don't know, but this is the last who are out for Jimmy Butler in Miami. I feel like this team with being Bammed, like being the guy. If you can, if you can surram, if you can surround BAM with some good, solid players, maybe another all star I don't want to say all NBA, but maybe an All Star caliber player. I can see him taking Miami
just as far as Jimmy did. Just it's just it just was as Jimmy did. Who want to be broke? Yeah, and then on top of that, if you want, I want to say bro because one hundred and sixty six million in today's NBA is not a lot extension wise, But I feel like them, Like you said, I do believe them locking up BAM is a good move. But this being and also this being BAM's team is something in the It's something to look forward to. I think we'll keep them
in contention, but I don't know. It'll be very interesting to see if BAM can do the same things Jimmy could do as far as taking his team to like an NBA finals. Have that much faith in BAM, I said, I don't know, it would be interesting. So the way you be riding my man's from Minnesota, you be riding cat like he is trash, but you sing BAM praises to take a team to the finals. I'm taking Bam over a cat. I'm taking Bam over cat. I see, y'all
don't talk about the Lakers breaking news. Did he just come there? Did this come up? Max signs four years? We got a lot to talk about. That's not that's not that's not breaking news. Dog. Yeah, I was gonna say that that the Lakers and that D League team in the Bacon as a D League team in the make it. Let you forgot. I don't really care what Bam does. He's not that guy to me. He's not that guy to you. He's not Wow, why you say that he's not a game changer. He's he's a good player, but he's not
a game changer. He's a He's not a player that's going to be like. He's not a player that's gonna take over a whole game. He's gonna do what he does. He's gonna get his double double, but outside of that, he's not gonna change the dynamics of the game. So you're going with the narrative he can't do Witham, with Butler can do, he can't
do it. He can't do what a healthy butler do, but he can do with a bummed up Butler do bum mm hmm, because if you notice, over the last three to four seasons, but Butler's been been battling injuries every season, which has been hindering him from being who he is, and that my friend is a hot take. I I if you want to keep it a buck, but two bucks. A lot of things that Bam do takes the pressure off Jimmy, Like what you can't You can't. You can't
go into a game and focus all on Jimmy. You can't because Bam is there. He makes his presence stone. Is he a thirty and fifteen guy? Not all the time. He'll give you He'll give you the double double. It may be a sixteen and ten for the series, but Bam, it has to be. You have to account for Bam. You saying it like he is, y'all saying it like it's just Jimmy in the Miami Heat, and I'm like, really, it's just Jimmy and the Miami Heat. I didn't say that because hold on, hold on, let's not act like
it's not Jimmy and the stop your fingers. You scared because what happened when Jimmy didn't play this year they got Boston What in the first round, but Jimmy played as the ABC. They went WHAT to the finals twice in four years. So let's not act like Jimmy Butler is. I'm sure we all know Dragon. We all know can no superstar doing by himself, not Lebron, not Kerk, no superstar can doing by himself. Agree, Jimmy worked
his way to become a superstar. What I'm saying is, I'm not just going if Jimmy, Jimmy is not on this team next year, I'm not. I'm I'm sitting here and saying they're not a lottery team. Throw the team away. Without Jimmy Butler. They are absolutely a low. If they're not a lottery they are playing for sure. And that's not good, my friend. That first of all, they're playing with Jimmy, That's how he made it to the finals, to the playing They're playing with Jimmy. But
Jimmy didn't play full season. Jimmy didn't know he didn't. They didn't know he didn't. They didn't know he didn't. They made it to the finals. Where did they come from? Jimmy, But Jimmy was hurt off season. Jimmy was heard off. Did y'all not hear what I just said a few minutes ago? Keeping ballet injuries? All signed with you? You're saying, are you so you're saying? Are you saying the same thing? Are you saying without Jimmy Butler? This Mammy's team, as constructed is a playing
team, not even playing team, a lottery teams. Barbecue, barbecue chicken, no faith? Wow, all right, it's like the Bucks counts KCP. KCP is expected to decline his fifteen point four million options to become a free agency this year. Do you expect him to re sign with Denver or to take his talent elsewhere? Big mistake? And what do I knew he was gonna do this? But this woman go you first? What does the Nuggets look like without KCP? I think the Nuggets look fine? KCP?
To me, this is a great case of overestimating your value. Uh, KCP got lucky to join Denver. He was I'm not gonna say, a vital part to the championship run. He was not a vital part. He was a part. He was a part. A vital part means listen, if we don't have certain vitals working, we we know good Denver could have found someone else to get that ten and eight that he provided, could they not? I did not. I think I think I put KCP in a category of six man slash could be a starter. He to me, casep
he has four man's bobby parties. I whoa. I think KCP is a better man than elite bleek milk of Easley Beasley. Okay, you can if he if he was on the Bucks team, If he was on the Bucks team, I think he's one of the few still three and d Yeah, and we could be like, oh, we're going to the final for fifteen million dollars, Yes, but not twenty twenty five and thirty how many eighteen? See? See now we're getting ticky tack because now that's pennies. That's
pennies, is it? Teen? Eighteen is pennies different twenty five and fifty five? That's a big difference. If you signed him, if you sign him for four years, Let's say you signed for four years, you give him the eighteen. You'd be like, if anything signed for four years, give him twenty. If anything, I would sign him, maybe I'll give him an extra year. Keep it at fifteen million, so maybe give him ten, twenty thirty forty, give him four year, sixty million dollars.
Give him an extra year. Because if you look at it, as the players are getting older, they're not necessarily chasing the money per year. They just want the extra time. That's why Chris Paul reconstructed his contract in Phoenix. He wanted the extra time. That's why bad needs. Chris Middleton reconstructed and took less because he wanted more time. Because now you can make my money stretch. So if KCP Caul will pope ops out and he wants more
money, I think he just overestimated his value. If he opted out to restructure a new deal to add more years, I think that's smart because now you're guaranteeing your longevity because we have to remember, the NBA is guaranteed money. Even if Wade you getting paid, you ain't getting paid as much, but you're getting that check into a team resigns you, right, So it's it's a smart busines this decision. If he's waved or if he opted into
free agent to reconstructure a longer deal. But if he's thinking twenty five thirty, he'll just stay with Denver. Do you think he'll do that stay with Denver. Denver is still a contending team in my opinion, and I think he will because think about it. When he was at the Lakers, he was an afterthought. He was not good playing with Lebron. It happens when you play with Lebron, it does for some first suck, first sung. He was not an afterthought. Yeah. Problem is LA is a different type
of monster in itself. I just think about it like that light. The lights in LA is always no rather it's Kobe, whether it's Lebron, whether it's Shack Diesel, whether it was Kareem, whether it was magic. The lights have always been at a different light any of the arena. The rise to the top. Yeah, everybody doesn't perform that way. Think about Julius Randall l A. He looked like a bump. Well, I think they gave up quick. He went to New York. They gave up on you
know, they didn't give up to him on quick. Everybody can't stand the limelight that comes with playing in l A. So you send him to New York with a limelight is just as big. It's big, but New York, New York, the New York been thanking for a few years. So you know what I mean. You get what I'm saying. I do. So he didn't have a lot to go against. When you step into l A uniform, automatically, it's automatic championship goals. And that's not on every
team that you step on. It's championship goals automatically. But when you go to LA, it's automatic. What you're gonna do to contribute to us getting this ring really quickly. It's not about being an l A, finished about knowing what it is. Hey, I just take the question. I'm not I'm just saying okay, So my question for you with my question question for I was looking at him the whole time. I just happened to do you feel like he re sign with Denver? And what is Casey? What look
like without k I think Denver days are over. They had their window and now that window has closed after one year. Because Joker, he ain't that dude who really loves the game like that to bring them back to me. He's MVP. I get that, but at the end of the day, he doesn't love the game like some of the other players do. He doesn't love the game, but it doesn't take away from his performance we shall see,
which shall see. He already won a championship and to come back and get beat the way they got beat by somebody wasn't expected to beat them, or they didn't expect it, didn't expect them to beat them. Let's let's not act like differ. They come back and win three in a row. They did take them. It doesn't at the end of the day, they lost, right, it wasn't they didn't expect Minnesota to beat them. Nobody. That's what it all boils down to. Minnesota was a better everybody handled
that. I think getting getting beat after your championship run, it's tough. Look at the Bucks, But have we recovered from it? No? Okay, think about the Lakers when the Lakers won their Bubble championship, how they recovered from it? I let it ride Golden State Warriors that last championship they got. Have they recovered from it? It's hard to recover. I stand
by that. My thing is, it's hard to recover after you win a championship and you come back over the next year and you lose, and you know what it takes to get where that ends, that end journey, that journey you're talking about Denver overall, Denver overall, I feel like I think the players are done with that environment. Some players are ready to get paid, you know what I'm saying, a lot of them took some pay cuts
to stay in Denver. The only person who left doing that championship run to go get paid was who Bruce Bruce Brown, who put on the biggest show for them during that period during that playoff, that final. I think Kawhi Leonard. I think Bruce No, he asked a question about he asked a question about them being traded. So, Kawhi Leonard, you talking about Bruce Brown and Kawi Leonard? Right, what are you talking about? Bruce Brown?
Bruce Brown when he was with when the agency, he left the free agency because they won the championship, right, apologize, here's my thing. Yeah, I don't know what that's about. Paul George has agreed to a My thing is this. I don't know what this brother, My thing is this. Be honest with you. I think you will re signed with Denver,
but also longer deal. Right, maybe a younger deal. But I feel like without KCP different is uh is different, way different, And I feel like they kind of it kind of takes them further out of contention unless they find somebody to replace him. You have a lot of faith in these these players. I have a lot of faith in because I know, I know in today's NBA you can't just have Steph Curry on your team and win a champions So like the Bucks draft pick to no, I don't know,
you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying is this, you can't just It's been proven time and time again. You can't just sit here and have a superstar on your te automatically. So it's not just like let's have a Lebron James Steph Curry conversation and after that there's no point of talking about it. These guys who guys like se KCP, guys like uh Malik Monk, guys like Scottie Barnes, Bam out of by you. You have to have
them on your team. We're not We're not saying that. So what I'm saying is when you talk about KCP, you take that's up to me. I'll just say that to me. To me, CACP was a big part of their championship run because to me, Bruce Brown over estem his value. Then on top of that, the things he do, he can't do that
on another team and think he's gonna have the same results. I think that's where he found out and going against, uh, going against going into free agency last year when I think he got drafted by Indiana and they traded him to Toronto. Now he don in Toronto just playing out his contract, said drafted. Well, I'm sorry, drafted. I mean, but that's what players do. After that second or thirdeam, look at uh, what's our boy named PJ? PJ Tucker. He picked up his option and I don't
blame him to get that eleven Newnion and Hill on the pitch. Yeah, Butler to come to find out Bucks, it off from nothing if he had offered um he stayed Yeah, well, because the Bucks were going, they were trying to pay that to pay Brook, they had to pay Chris, they had to pay Drew. Let's see you see so it's Arthur. It's Arthur. I told you it's hard to get back because everybody wants stay cash man. Just like k CP Denvers looking at it. You gotta look at
it like this, Denvers looking at it like this. You're a year older. You gotta pay can I help you. They gotta pay Jamal Murray, you got you will hurt most of the playoffs. Jokers eligible for a super Max next year. We need we can't go over to tap. The younger players are ready for their extensies. Now where's the money going to come from? And and you have to remember, I know you don't want to hear
this, but Luca hasn't signed anything because they're linking him to Denver. So if they're opening up door, listen, man, anything is possible, and it's uh uh buddy, buddy NBA Luca. Okay, do you think he'll go there? What if if Luke Luca just lost a championship, they would have to give up Murray and you wouldn't give up. You wouldn't give up Murray for Luca, not no Murray and Porter because you're gonna have to give up double because of your Dallas. I'm not giving up looking for no one
if you give it you trying to. Let's just say, for arguments sake, that Denver was entertaining Luca, order Jamal Murray and draft picks and you're not even your whoever else we think has potentials on in these least three paint. But here's the thing and words, the white boy that can Playhout Brown, bron Brown about but even him, even him, you have to give up. You would have to give up everything on the kitchen sinking for him,
everything but Joker pretty much. Can you rebuild off of Joker and Or and Dudgeon or he can go in free agency, But that's four years from that, that's two years from now. He just signed. I don't know, I don't know, I know, But nevertheless, I mean, if I'm Pope re signed with Denver, try to run it back to get a longer deal. I'm trying to go somewhere and get paid. Wow. The Denver Nuggets are expected to give Jamal Murray a max four year, two hundred
and nine million dollar extension. What are your thoughts overpaid fifty two million dollars for a guy who hasn't played a full season in two years? I can you give take my nephew to the gym. I'll sponsor some AAU as long as it's in the contract that I get taken care of when he make it to the NBA. Because I'm saying what they're paying people in drafting people these days. You don't even gotta have that much to take my thing. He'll take the deal, take the deal. We don't need your money. Tell
I got you? Are you telling me Jamal Murray is now four year, two und nine million dollars extension. Not for fifty three million dollars a year for a guy who on who has not played in two years all season? He is? He is? He not the reason they have a championship, Jokers, the reason they have a championship. Stop, don't get it twisted. Stop no, you stop, you stop stock it because he held Difver down while Murray was the reason when they got healthy. That's the reason why
they be. He was a piece basketball the team's or you can basketballs you can't. You're right, you are one thousand percent right. So everybody, everybody, at least two players on that team deserve max contract. And you telling me one is not Jamal Murray. I didn't say that he was. And I just think fifty three million dollars for a guy who hasn't played the full season two years is risky because man, even this year, didn't he go down in the playoffs this year? No, he didn't. He went
down in the season. He was season was kind of iffy. Playoffs, he got shut down by ant I would have I guess for me, I saw a bigger, stronger player. I would have wanted a shorter deal, more of approve your self contract, like will give you a two year extension two years, year eighty million, two year eighty five million. But to give this man we're he you're talking about guaranteed money. Have we not learned
anything from Grand Hill? Have we not learned anything from Baron Davis? Do you not reward players for doing for playing good, for delivering you a championship last Year's just saying that might not never make it there again. Listen, fifty three million dollars a year for a player who hasn't played a full season in two years. That's all I'm saying. So what I'm saying, what are your thoughts on this extension for Jamal Murray? I mean, I don't
think it really matters. What are you thinking say that? Because man, it's just like playing with Lebron James. The money is can't be calculated no more because it's the deals with these networks are so high there quick casey, I'm sorry. The Golden State Warriors declined a trade that would have seen Andrew Wiggins and CP three to the Bulls for Zach Lavine. It's just broken. You just wanted to just want not all the good moments, but there's nothing
there to really talk about that. That's a lot. We're just breaking the new vis Go ahead, go ahead, bro, he said, are you a Jamal Murray fan? Bro? Like, do you think that he's really worth that fifty three million dollar deal a year? Like I said earlier, is just gonna be about the money, the values that we're looking at. You looking at it like it's a lot of money, but it's really not, because it's a lot that goes into being an NBA player where that money
has to be stretched out and nowadays everything costs more. So what I'm sorry, yes, please, So fifty four million dollars. My thig is look at it like this. You just want to talk basketball. Who you going to get to replace Murray? Tell me one player that you're going to get to replace him? D Low Well, he picked up his options. So that's all. He making twenty seven, he making eighteen eighteen, he make eighteen, making eighteen. He picked up his player options. Smart man.
Smart man because he ain't getting paid like that, No more, no, no. Dlo is always approved eighteen, eighteen to twenty two. You know it's season. He's a ten to fifteen, especially if he doesn't put buckets in the basket. Dlo is always going to prove prove yourself contract situation. He's always he's always on the contract. But and he usually comes to when it's uh when when his contract? So this might be a phenomenal year for del. I'm just trying to say, who who you going to pick up?
Instead? What do you mean by that? Do you are you saying you're going to pick up that's going to have the value of a Jamal Murray? Why would I have to pick him up when he's already on the teams. I have to say, I'm just saying your point. I'm agreeing with you, okay, because he's saying, what, how did Jamal Murty worth that amount of money? Who else are you going to find out their position that's going to be as good as him? Who's going to hit his biggest
shots as him? Who's going to play as good as him? My question about when you say who who else are you gonna get? I feel like you're saying we might as well pay him. There's nobody else out there. That's what I feel like, That's what I'm saying. So but when you say that, though, are you saying he's worth he's he's not worth it, and you're saying whatever, But are you saying, oh, he's worth it, you gotta pay him. My thing is quite a few players might
not be worth it. But at the end of the day, well, I guess without different and no different than Toronto when Scottie Barnes, thank you Kesey for saying that. I think the way I'll start responding is based on the team and the value. I'll just keep it the basketball because when you put it like that, it's like, just like our butts when we cashed out on Middleton, what was the line? Who else are we gonna get? Who else is available? So I give you that, so think about
it. I'll give you that. Think about it like this, even even if like the Bucks, like the bus, you know, Bucks, the Bucks had that. The Bucks had that choice too with Middleton, like he said, because it was either that or the Bucks go after Bradley Bill. And look what Bradley Bill turned out. The dam fine, Like Judd. So you love and your future partner, you ain't doing nothing but here just for context and this this helped me a bit, like I'm gonna just keep
it a buck. Just helped me a bit. The Golden State Warriors are worth seven point seven billion dollars. Can I just finish plus go go? This year they made eight hundred million dollars in revenue in revenue, and their operating budget was two hundred and fifty million dollars. The New York Knicks six point six billion. They only made two hundred and seventy eight revenue. So you look at teams. We're just talking about the Denver Nuggets. The Denver
Nuggets only made two hundred and seventy three million dollars in revenue. How much did they spend out? Sixty seven million dollars. That's operations. I'm that I'm assuming that doesn't include salaries. That's operational income. They spent of their operational income, fifteen percent of it was debt, So that means they paid fifteen percent off of their operational income. When you think about the money that these teams are making. For example, the highest payroll Bucks payroll right now
is with like one hundred and twenty something million dollars. The Milwaukee Bucks, for example, they are worth or are they? Here? We are the fifteenth most valuable team at two point three million dollars, and we generated three hundred and fifty two million dollars this season. And how much was the operational the operational income? I mean, we made money about fifty one million dollars,
but fourteen percent of it was debt. So I say that to say, if you made three fifty two and you're paying out one hundred and twenty five, I mean, I guess that's still some good money. So perhaps these players are underpaid by looking at all the money that these owners and these
teams are making. That's Dre Trey. You of all people, of all people, I'm not gonna get into your business, but you have a team, correct, I do see if you're one of your people came to you and said, hey man, y'all pulling in this, y'all doing this? Why ain't got no raise yet? What you're gonna say to him? We nonprofit, Go work somewhere else. Hey, but what you're gonna look at him crazy? Correct? I'm not gonna look at him crazy? Look at
him? No, I'm remind them of what their value is to this organization, But is it what we can and cannot do? What basketball is the same way, because there's thing what about every team want to play that luxury? What the other team like Detroit looked like considering they were the worst team in the NBA this year. Literal, But y'all remember the TV deals still help will make money. I know, I'm not just saying, I'm just like the Detroit pissed, just thinking about it, like, like, what
is a what a team might Detroit for somebody? Who? Really? So I'll give you this. I'll give you this. The bottom five. Orlando Magics are worth one point eight billion made two hundred and seventy two in revenue. The Indiana Pacers are worth one point eight billion made two sixty four in revenue. The Hornets are worth one point seven billion, may two sixty nine. The Timberwolves are ranked one point six two hundred and seventy million in revenue.
Memphis, which this doesn't surprise me because they didn't have job play all year, but they're worth one point six billion, two hundred and seventy two million in revenue. And then the Pelicans are the least valuable team in the NBA at one point six billion making two hundred and sixty eight million in revenue. So the Detroit Pistons aren't even in the bottom five. In fact, the Detroit Pistons are worth a little more than the Milwaukee Bucks, if you
can believe that, which is shocking to me. The Detroit Pistons are ranked based on this study. So before he goes into all thirty teams, what is your reason faction for that? I just want to know what it looks like to be the bottom and what it's like to be at top. Because here there's a lot of bottom teams in the top fifteen, bro lot of bottom teams. Washington Wizards, Washington Wizards. I just know. I just know Toronto Raptors are worth four billion dollars. I I just know that,
especially the trait. But my thing is, with all this whole stuff and all this contract talk is number one, this money is already set aside. If hey, this is how much we can spend a salary, so it's already put out there. I just want and then everyone I bring out these numbers, they are like, oh my god, because we're not in that tax bracket. At all. We're not even close to that tax bracket. So I get the whole. But like I said before, when you talk
about what these guys, just take it to basketball. When you talk about these guys and what they can do for your team, what they with this person value is Murray could have set the number to Hey, I want two fifty because he wasn't eligible because he didn't play a full season. So no, we couldn't. He's that. No we couldn't. He's that. State the facts. Don't know because you're going on to facts. Now state the facts. First of all, that him him not playing all those games is
more towards his awards, is his incentives and what kind of contract. You don't know what kind of track. He's not for supermax, but it's not a supermax. But this is a though. So what I'm saying is this, if he's his value is what you said? It that So on the Nuggets team, I'm second, I'm robbing to the batman. So if I won two fifty and he's supposed to get three fifty, I deserve the two
fifty. Sure, So that's what I'm saying. Sure, I'm not saying that, Hey, what are you paying how much your team is worth. I'm saying, as a player who is second in on this team, I deserve the fifty plus million a year, especially when I see guys like Jalen Brown with that situation is all up and down. They both in Iraq in three hundred and fifty three hundred plus, but that that backed up with a championship. This man just got out of a championship in twenty twenty three.
Yeah. But my thing is, though, look at it like this, like like I said, go back to what I said, like who else are you gonna get? Ain't no different than the Bucks? Scit ain't no different than the Bucks when they had to pay. But you can wait and then you're gonna be battling with somebody else a you're gonna stend them and then you got them December. December decided to do the latter. They know different than the Bucks. They took Middleton, right, they took at the time.
We need to do. But we also had the option of taking who Bradley Bill and we did. We made the right decisions and that's where we had to do. That's where it pays off at because it's like who else could I get but it was like, I could have got Bradley Bill, but then look what it got. Look what Bradley Bill gave Phoenix this year. I see what you're saying. Now, I'll take that perspective. I'll take that perspective. I just wanted to know where you was coming from.
That's what I'm trying to say, Like, you don't know what you're gonna get out of it. It's a gamble. It's always a gamble. Owners are gambling every time they picked somebody. That's that's that's part of the game. That's part of the game, and they understand that's why they get to make the money that they make because it's a gamble. It ain't no more than a Vegas odds like, that's very true. In your favor may not be your favorite. I could get hurt. That could be end of the
year, that could be the rest of your season. You never know. That's very true moving on the end of your career. That's true to the Atlanta Hawks trade DeAndre Murray, John Ray the Dion Trump exactly, John John Ty Murray, Yeah, John Ty Murray to New Orleans Pelicans for Lance Nance Junior and two first round picks. I thought that who to New Orleans, Perlicans, New Orleans Pelicans for livery nance Junior exactly. I think first round
picks. I don't think they're rebuilding. I think they're trying to get better. I know, because they're gonna they're gonna Atlanta. Are you talking about New Orleans because they're gonna get rid of Ingram. I think they're gonna use. I think they're trying to build there. Okay, let me do. They're trying to get a younger core. I'll give you that. I think that with Murray and because they don't have a real point guard like that, they got my colum at the point guard. He's a little older. That's
what I'm saying. You got at the point guard they want to take They want to take her their starting point guard is is somebody else? It was? Uh No, it was. I think he didn't need to come off the bench. And that's what that ball. And then my thing is that's that is people are so crul My thing is with this trade, I feel like number one New Orleans. New Orleans got off pretty easy, and I feel like Atlanta is I don't want to say on the cusp of rebuilding,
but they're trying to figure some things out. But this pair didn't work, so one of them had to go. I knew it wouldn't work, though I thought it would. I did. I knew it. It's two point guards, but still I thought that I thought they would make it work. The two point guards who are score score first mentalities, one of them got to be the opposite, you know what I'm saying. For the work ain't just like with the like when people pick up ron Though to go along with
another point guard. You know, you want to score and point guard because Rondo is a past hers guard. But the thing about that is this though, when you talk about Atlanta, I thought they would at least try to pick up a shooting guard in this deal. And they did, and I feel like they just picked up Lance and it was like, whoo, who y'all want? And they was like, will give us Lance you, I
will give us Zion, So give us Lance. But I would mean to me, I'm taking not an equal trade on paper, It's not an equal trade because Lance Lance Nance Junior Larry Nance Jr. Is not that guy who can give you a double double. I'm gonna tell you like this this was He's solid on boards. They wanted those draft picks because they know the Pelicans are going to suck, which means they get higher draft picks in the next couple. Come on up, Drivet, So are you talking about Atlanta?
So you say, are you saying Atlanta is rebuilding getting ready to rebuild? M hm? Trey Young is still young, is still very young. They kept the number one pick, I I know, so they trying to get a younger core and it's gonna take a few years. Tray will be a good veteran body in So you are you okay? You know the experiment with them together didn't work. Y'all still sucked, so we might as well get rid of one of them, suck a little bit longer, and then just
build up our roster over the next couple of years. I mean, next year draft is gonna be very interesting. It'll be some it's it's a good pick in there. It is. My thing about this is by far the weirdest. It was a horrible draft. Horrible draft. No, you know, it's a lot of potential draft. I want to say horrible, I say potential draft. By six ten years from now, we'll be like,
what about the twenty twenty four draft. It's gonna be the one that that everybody's gonna be talking about what was the worst NBA drafting history since Andrew Bennett. We'll see what happened. I but this trade was the interesting to me be just because it feels both needs on both sides of the both sides, both teams filt needs one more than the other. And so we'll see what has happens. Dre. I like it, but I think it's debate more teams to take a look at Ingram. I think it's debate more teams.
I think New Orleans might use it as trade bait. I think they're rebuilding uh Zion. How much more time do you give them? I mean, he's had four years already, I get it, But when do you put him on the market. So I don't necessarily like it for Atlanta because I don't get what they're doing over there, because Atlanta didn't get better with this deal, they got worse. I mean, we've seen the second round draft picks four point five average points, two point average points, three point average
points, so I don't see what they're getting out of it. But I mean I think they're trying to build something to get the number one draft pick. It's a lot of it's a lot of we'll see. It gives Atlanta a lower payroll, it gives them atall. I mean, they could go for somebody big in the next couple of years. You're right, it could. Atlanta is a market, it is a somewhat big market, but they're not a real basketball time what I want to tone here for this next one
but whatever, well not this next one, but this coming up. The Dallas Mavericks traded Tim Hardaway Junior and three second round picks to Detroit Pistons for Quentin grind Don't get it. I don't see how that helps either team. I just don't. They need to get rid of it. I knew they needed to get rid of Tim Hardaway Junior and then not not for nothing. And I also knew that Tim Jim Hardaway Junior was kind of frustrated with his role. He really didn't play in the finals. He really didn't play in
the playoffs. But I think I think he would have came off injury, but it really didn't when he played like twenty minutes just to make him good trade value. That was only to get him some trade value. Who do him a play. Yeah in the finals. Yeah, he had a good game. He had one good game and that was the reason they traded. He don't never he don't never delivered to me, to me, he don't never deliver. Every time he goes to a team, they looking for him
to be the second or third star to the star. And he don't never pan out like he used to. So I'll just be like and then I'd be like, I guess whatever. He's becoming a journey man. Which is it is what it is. It looks the thing. This next one hit the hit when it when it happened, it was pretty big. I know why it was pretty big. But you know, uh, the Brooklyn Nets are trading Malik Bridges. It's not believe mikeel Micheale Michale Bridges to the New
York Knicks for Bandjanovic. Four unprotected first round picks, a protective first round pick via the Bucks, an unprotected pick swap, and a second rounder. With this, with this, with with this, the Knicks have have completed it set. All former Valilonova teammates are have been acquired. Did this move make the Knicks the top five in the East? Well, without seeing them play together. I can't say that. But why did they give up so much? They gave up a lot for mikel Bridge. I feel like the
Knicks are in a win now. The Knicks are in the win now, Brooklyn is uh, we're trying to They're in the rebuild. They're in the rebuild. They fired their coach. He's a versatile wing. He's a versatile wing, Michael Bridges. But for all that, well, that's what I mean. What the bus didding for? Three point? Jay Crowder? So? Who Jake? Exactly exactly. I don't want to never I never want to get into that exactly. I didn't hear what you said. But but
I said, I'm wondering why they're giving up all this stuff. But I think it comes back to the draft sucking. That's why they're giving up so much. Like second rounds. The last talked about second round pick was Draymond Hate well, not necessarily. Genoble is one of the greats for that round picks. I said the last and Draymond was the last second round pick. That's that's talked about, is it not? Is he not? That's all I'm saying. True, That's what I'm saying. True. True, but
yeah, you know I feel about Draymond. I don't like it. I do. I don't like him either. I don't like him. I don't like the way the league treats him. I don't like the way the Warriors treat him. Let me scratch that. I like the way the league treats him. I don't like the way the Warriors treat him when they play their first game. I'm not surprised if you do. But I hope he dropped forty on him. Kesey, what is your thoughts on this? What is
your thoughts on the Knicks with this trade being top five? In the top five? Oh, I'm sorry, I misspoke. Joker is the is the last greatest second round pick? Joker Jokers? Jokers? Jokers? But he went forty one. If Briannie Adams stats, he would have went first round. We'll get there. Uh, Keiz, what do you think about? You ain't joker too? Bridges going to the Knicks? Man, You just you real quick. You make it hard for me to say. You know
that Lakers fan slash Lebron can't do no wrong. You make it hard put out there. Jaylen Brunson also one second Nicks the Knicks get better. Top five in the East, definitely top five with that pick Cup, especially if Og comes back healthy. I think Jalen Brunson re injured his hand, so I don't know if he's gonna be good injured. So they showed on ESPN
him and Tyrese Halliburton. We're on WWF SmackDown on Friday night, and they showed a clip of Jalen Brunson getting in the ring picking up a chair and you could see him do like this to his hand. He's like like he re injured his hand. That's what the clip showed. And they ain't just showed out on ESPN for nothing. So I mean, think about that, and I don't still that's good what you're gonna say, he'll be straight back game that's in three months. The Knicks are cursed. M No, I
don't. I don't. I don't want to take that and be like, I know. I'm just saying they are cursed because they even though they make some good choices, it don't always pan out the way they wanted it to pan out. Ain't no different than the Carmelo Anthony and the Marie Stid of my experiment. Everybody was that in New York was excited about having a Maris Stardamyer and Carmelo Anthony at the same time. Oh here we go, the New York Post, says Jalen bruns and reassures that he is fine after SmackDown
injury. I'm just saying, we all saw on ESPN BR and the way you was in that hand is wrestling. Yeah, but just he just heard it though, so I mean it ad he didn't have a cast on or anything. That's what I'm saying is surgery. What I'm saying, I like Mike call with the Knicks, but then make no mistakes about it, the success of the New York Knicks is on the back of Jalen Brunson. I think they didn't win that series because they don't have somebody like make Mike Michael
Bridges that they had him on the team, they win that series. No, no, they're not. No, yes, yes, why not? No? Why not? Because I'm gonna tell you like this, OKL Bridges is not a game changer. He's a role player. He's a nice player, but he's not a game changer. What was the nixt number one problem? Think about? Think about? Think about what was there it was the bigger problem. What was the biggest problem, shooting, scoring, injuries? Oh? Well, you know what else was a problem. You know what
else was the problem that nobody never noticed either. Si, they didn't get Bigger's saying, mmm, they didn't get bigger. You mean to tell me, you mean to tell me? And Brunton is a liability on defense because most of the guards that he played against are bigger than him. Jason Hart is not that big. Josh, what you mean? Yeah, Josh? My thing is this number one they had? Uh? I can't think of his last name. First of Isaiah, like you said, the white boy.
Yeah, the Isaiah, white boy. Uh, the white Isaiah he uh he he was solid. Dicenzo's size. He's six seven. Know, he's sick. He's smaller than Steph Curry six sixty three. He's not looking at Okay, he might be like six three. He's small. He's probably six two. He might even be six to one. Oh, you want him the smallest Bronnie. You want everybody smallest Bronnie. That's hilarious. You must be excited about Bronnie. I'm actually happy for him because people are brown
of nepotism. And I love it. What is nepotism? For all the people who don't know, nepotism is using basically getting your family in and there's someone better. Favoritism. It's another word for favoritism. To hear you say it alls so everybody in the world knew what you were talking favoritism because they've been debating about this all week, Like, is it a problem when doctors helped their sons get in school? Is it a problem with six four?
Ain't six seven? That's a big difference, bro as a big six one. It ain't six to either two inches matter better than your three? No? What, No, Diddy? Is that a thing? Now? Hey, it's been a thing. I'll continue to say I didn't even hear it because I didn't. Wow, I'm gonna I'm gonna have an interesting typees because I wanted to tell him to say something about this, because but he's not
here right now. I think the New York Knicks was the top five team before this, but I think it makes them I don't say gearing t but if they don't make the Eastern Conference finals, I feel like there's gonna be a disappointment. Well, be ready to get disappointed. Because if PG go to the seventy six ers, be disappointed. Well, obviously if things work out, you know, but I fifth was you know, I get it. So but I mean if we took it too much for right now,
I think their top they should be Eastern Conference Finals bound. Now who they'll face makes a big difference. But I feel like, you know what, I'm gonna give you some praise here. You have a lot of confidence in role players. I have a lot of conference because that stuff matters. But what did I tell you was gonna have it to the Knicks? What it was gonna get injury because they run him into the ground like he did, like he did. D Roads Me and Andre said that all season. We
yeah, we even saying it all season. I never say it wasn't true. But if you're gonna have somebody, this is the guy to have. Who's you are exactly you're gonna pay, You're gonna you're gonna he needs Who's gonna play eighty two games? Michal Bridges is that guy, hopefully, because Tom Thibodau runs you raggett he does. Paul George has declined his forty eight
point seven option and making him a free agent he had. He had met with the Clippers seventy six ers and the Magic also talks with the Clippers doing a sign and trade with Golden State. Where do you see PG landing? What is his best fit? I can see PG I at this point in his career. I can see PG going to Golden State. I thought Philly had the best chance until I saw Golden State. If you put PG in with Steph, with Dremond, if you put him in that lineup, that
is a potential championship froster right there. I can see Golden State really quickly. Hold up, I can here, I can see Orlando. I don't Here's why you gotta remember. Florida has no tax day taxes either. It's a warm climate and the potential. They're a young team that was pretty good, and if they can pull Clay and PG, that's a good look. If they can pull both, Clay's already said he'll go discount for the Lakers or the Clippers exactly. So you know what's interesting. Let me take that
all that back, Let me erase that rewind. I can see Clay and PG almost being a package deep. They played the same position. What does that mean Clay's near the end of his career. He's not that far. Clay can also the two can be interchangeable. One can play shooting guard and one can play small forward for Golden State. I'm not talking Clay's done in Golden State, just in general. I said, I can see those I
can see one going where the other goes. So if PG resigns with the Clippers, I can see Clay taking that pay cut to go to the Clippers. If PG goes to Philly, I can see Clay going to Philly. I can see them both in Orlando. What makes you okay? Because here's the thing. Here's why I say that, Because they're both meeting with these teams. Who's meeting with Orlando if you just don't want to get paid?
PG wants a title. He ain't mean with Orlando for no reason. There's something else happening that we're not pre v too that would make that man take a meeting with Orlando money. They have a lot of money, but PG wants the title. Pg's made money. We're going in on his third what is his Kesey look it up. He's gonna read be his thirteenth season. So he wants a title. He's made money for a team. So that's why I said, why would he be taking a meeting with Orlando if we
don't know something? Let me finish. If I'm PG the best chance of winning the title, I'm going to Golden State. Golden State didn't offer Clay that title for a reason. Bro, that champion at that contract for a reason. Let me tell you some disrespectful Uh well, we'll get it. How disrespectful goes. Here's some word breaking news. Westbrook is on the trading block and the Clippers have made him available. He just signed. He's just
signed to deal with him picked up his player really quickly? What really quickly? Uh? No, no, real quick? Tom? You text me Villanova boys in the building? What is your thought? Are you back on the bandwacky? Oh? Yeah, I'm here now. You want to buy my nixt tickets to the event? How much they're going for my? First of all? Ton of off of that fall forward? Second of all? Tone? Are y'all top five in the East? Yes? Are y'all Eastern Conference? Final? Bond or bus? Do we have a healthy bucks healthy
Bucks score? Oh? Team as as constructed right now, these teams and y'all can beat the Bucks as constructed right now? Sure? All right, So I don't want my Milwaukee people think I don't love them, but we're going. We're there, We're there the bandwagon, fantasy back ladies and gentlemen. You know what my ex lovers for us to work out and they we ain't got no boys. You for doing what I asked? Baby? Do you better hope? You better hope? Uh? Bays Bay's bay? Uh?
Uh? What's that coach? N ain't Tom TV do don't run him into the ground. All I know is this, y'all can need to get rid of Randall. Okay, y'all got y'all got bridges, get rid of Randall and hey, you get rid of Randall. I'm with you. I'm like, oh, they're gonna they mean business. Do York mean business? They get rid of Randall and get a big You're right, you're right. If we were talking about it, we've been breaking news all day. But
I just need right away. You might enjoy this one. According to the latest Dude, the Bucks are moving on from Pat Beverly. We'll see what. Oh well, that sucks, but I'm not surprised. Kesey PG playoff P. Where do you think he's gonna land where you think his best fit is playoff p This is all antics. He's going back to the Clippers. This is all antics to make them pay him what he wants to. I
don't see him going anywhere because he's comfortable there. He is from l A, you know what I'm saying, Like, the only other option is God State that far Golden State. Oakland is not that far, or the or the Lakers in the same arena. But he doesn't want to play with Lebron facts, and I don't think he wants to play with Steph like. I don't think he's in that in that frame of playing with them in that same era. I think he wants to play with Steph is different. No,
it's not. It is you under the limelight. You just under the same type if you're playing with Lebron, is that dude? You know it's different. Though you know it's different, it's different. I want to say say it, what's the difference Steph makes people better? I wasn't even gonna say that. I was gonna say, Steph is want to make sure people better? Did you? Did you not see contract Steph? Let's not go back there. That the Bucks paid him fifty five million dollars. Some days is
over. Those days are over. Let's just cut through the crap here. Lebron James is very assertive with the ball. He has to have the ball in his hand. He needs control, he needs control of the offense, so on and so forth. Steph Curry is like, hey, man, getting where you fit in. You just what you like to do. That's cool with me because I'm gonna get mine. Don't worry about it. But it's not. That's not You're about having somebody hold on, hold on before
you go. He don't gotta deal with Steph energy. You know who The real line in the room is Draymond. You know he offensive. Don't nobody I get it in today's I don't see Paul George able to handle that type of face the way the way Draymond talks ship to them. I'm gonna just keep it a buck You a little sensitive, Yeah, I'm just gonna say he can't handle that energy that Draymond is going to bring to him when he is messing up or when he's being playoff. P You know what the funny
thing is this, here's the thing to me and towards your point. When you get somebody like playoff P who is a a diluted version of k D, should the Bucks go after I'm sorry, should the Bucks go after Westbrook? No? Okay. So when you someone just text watching this show and I and say what you think, dread, let me ask the crew what you're gonna say. That's a Bucks talk. But you know you need to
get your get it out there. Steven be on up, Steven. But I feel like I feel like, I just feel like when you when you have somebody that's like a Steven Stephen b when you have somebody like a PG who's a little diluted version of KD, he's gonna even give that much credit. Yeah, he's even he'll even shrink even further when they come to Draymond
like k D has a like who you think you're talking to? I'll just leave, like how he only he was like, I'll leave, Like if you talk about KD is a bait that we talk about KD a is a bait all the time. PG is even worse to me. To me, he's not gonna go well, I think the difference is KD. But working with Steph, I think it's a perfect I think PG also knows he's not a start of team anymore. He is. He's cool with not being a starter team though, and I think that's why with fit with Golden Stated.
I think that's his best chance to win of the title. I mean to answer my own question, because he's been with the Clippers how long? Now? Eight seasons? Has been that long. But he's been with the Clippers along time. I think it's been to Plopers that long. You've been thirteen years. He's been out in their life three three and four. Well, here here's the thing, because he's okay, see PG, your window has closed. It's closing by the minute, right And the best opportunity, I
think, if you, if you this, here's my thing. Oh, let me finish. The best opportunity for him to get a tie right now will be with Golden State. Because let's be honest. Let's be honest. As much as we love and be bro, don't nobody trust them thees, No, I think if you want to win a championship. He was with the Pacers from twenty to twenty seventeen. That's seven seasons. Oklahoma City seventeen to nineteen, that's nine seasons. Nineteen to present, twenty ten to twenty
seventeen was with the Pacers. That's seven seasons, twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Okay, Seeds, so that's nine seasons, okay, and then the Clippers twenty nineteen to present. So what's that nineteen eleven twey thirty first, this is fifteen season. Yeah, so wait a minute, wait a minute. So you're saying in year fifteen Paul can get a super Max deal, Marquise keepsy, you're saying he can get sixty million from the Clippers and still
trying to want to sip up in year fifteen. I don't My thing is this? Here's my thing going back to keysy point year. Waita wait, Lebron just finished what year what twenty year twenty and he's taking and he's taking a pay cut to he's the report came out he is wanting to take a pay cup for the Lakers to sign more talent and on the top of the list. But if they don't guess how much he asks me he's gonna get sixty a year, thank you? I think? Is this he's n hold
on? George? Hold on? Second? Though? Is CANPG be a heavy contributor, contributor to a championship team. It hasn't happened with the Clippers. I'm saying, Kenny, yes or no, potentially because the Clippers was the Clippers a championship team built or not on pay? Yes, fully healthy, fully healthy championship team. But they can't get healthy. And that's not that's not. Paul George hasn't played a full season, and how many years
he has played the full season? And how many nobody's playing eighty two games? Nobody's playing two games. Don't nobody's playing eighty two games. You know that, Drake. Nobody's playing eighty two games, and you know that. Don't do that. If you're playing over sixty if you're playing over sixty five games, that's a full season. If I'm PG, I'm going to the best chance to win the title and make a little money. I'm saying, do a four year deal with Golden State for four years, one sixty take
forty a year. Why what for a chance of the title with Steph. You're not taking a four year four Okay we're talking about PG. He's not cpgrec are you taking If I'm Paul George and Golden State offers you four years one sixty to one eighty. You're not taking that a year fifteen injury prone. I'll count old. Look, we all agree, injury prone, injury prone year fifteen fifteen, and you're a small forward, so you can own that position. We'll get there. Yeah, we'll get there. ETV.
You're looking out and you're in. You're in your eyeing a title. If your PG Mark Casey, pay attention to us. Listen, you are so unfocused today. No, go ahead, Paul George. Do you take that deal for forty to fifty million a year to go to Golden State to for a chance to win the title. I'll counter five years, No, four year two two hundred two twenty. We can we can negotiate that last twenty Philly. The Clippers are they are not offering that man fifty five million dollars
a year. They can't four years. They can't. He's eligible four years, not two. You're right, he can't. He can for years, but he can't get a fifth your years two twenty. We can negotiate the two hundred to twenty Philly with no championship aspirations. That's championship aspiration. We got Maxie and you got in bid here and PG takes and PG takes the weight off in bed and it's you and Maxie. Okay, Max. Before
you answer this, let me counter with another question. Hold on, let me ask you this for you though he's unrestricted, right, he is unrestricted, So let me ask you this so it doesn't have to be a sign in trade. It does not, but it would help. It would help the Clippers, but Wilding team want to help them. Let me ask you this is he leaving the Clippers? Yes or no? Key, so that you don't even need to answer the question, because you don't even need to
answer it because you said he's resigned with the Clippers. I just told you to know that was better. He's about it, That's why you said that. You asked that question. But if you had to pick, the Clippers were off the table. Whose deal are you taking? If I'm if I'm PG, I meither taking forty from the Warriors for four years or fifty from the Sixers. You're gonna make them pay? Who? Which team? Other than money? Which team gets PG? Seriously a better shot at the tire?
That's a good question. Philly Wow, I like Stephan them Wow. Tray Mon's on his way out. Steph is lost a step or two. He ain't like the old Steph. You know what I mean, because he picked up injuries like everybody else now as you know, because it didn't in the playoffs was what happened. All I know is this, if you take the weight off of PG, could take the weight off a superstar. My
think is hold on. But my thinking is though, if you those superstars, if you, if you're Steph and you're in bid, how are you I'm saying you embiid your Steph? Yeah, how are you gonna convince me to come to you? Or how are you gonna convince me to come to you? Four championship, no championship, But tell me your roster warm weather,
horrible weather roster to me coaching? Fourth coach championship, pedigree, no champions hold on, no, no, no, no no. He asked me defensive player of the Year. That's still a walking double double a mercy, a mercy m VP because he cried his way when we all know jokers should have four. This is all I'm saying. You can't hear me out, and I'm gonna be I'm gonna be done. You've got a lot more to talk about in this really really long episode that I love. Wait the
end the season. You can't pay PG and pay MAXI next year? You can't. You can't. Why not because Philly has Because why because I'll tell you why? Because you're just talking about the baby that you do. You think they're gonna guess who getting ready to come out the books Tobias. So there's money. Now, seventy six ers just signed drumming as long as that what was that like two point two? So that makes it really what Here's here's the thing. Say the crush all that is, crush all that wildly
he is. I'm gonna say this to crush all that. We're in the Eastern Conference. What I need to say. You don't have to see Lebron. You don't have to see it. You don't have to see that. You don't have to see Kawhi, you don't have to see the joker you he had the Eastern Conference. We're in top five every single year, top three if it Beat is playing hard, we're top reach Boston, listen current that. Come on, No you're not. We're top three, So you're
cool. We're a top hold on, but you're cool with going through a younger uh Tatum and Brown duo Joannis. Ain't no telling what the Bucks are going to do this year. And Dame and that little monster in the in the New York Knicks that just got established on top of the patients are going to get me back. And they're young. We're a top you're older. We're a top three team, on top on top of everybody in the West. Oh, we're a top three thing every every year. We're top three
every year. Only team you gotta really worry about in the West that's young is Minnesota. You think we're worried about Minnesota and in the Golden State if they signed, PG won't be worried about it. If you're PG and you're just trying to decide where to go, you know you gotta do is run through some old schools over there, run against some old schools, the young school I don't think PG is re signing with the Clippers because he wouldn't be
taking these meetings. I think he is because they could have just offered him flout. Here's an extension. The reason why this is going on because the Clippers offered him something. They didn't offer him enough years and he was like he wanted he wanted a four year like and he was like, we can give you three. Like you said before, a lot of players are leaning towards more longer time finishes. That takes him into nineteen seasons. Yeah.
So my thing is this, if you can talk about you know that that was fun. But my thing is when you talk about when you talk about your career and wanted to win a championship. I think either one of those teams anywhere, either one of those teams, you're in championship contention. I am, what are you talking about? But any either one of those teams, you're in championship contention. Either you go, if you go and go to Stay, you're in championship contention. If and it makes them a contender,
I think it turns them around. To Turner, Tobias is a free agent. Tobias a free agent. They really they stick and tied to him. They pay him a long time ago. And when me said y'all pay him over me, they was like we did bucks go after him. Who Tobias is still a major contributor to a tet there. But my thing is this, where's playing horse and all this? I'm sorry, Zeke, Where the heck is our GM? And all this you know isna hit hard? Oh well, we get the nasties off the book. That's stepartism when it
doesn't work. I can't wait to talk about this going on. Wait, so where you got him going? Okay? To me, I honestly feel like he's gonna go back to the Clippers. I got Golden State or Philly. You know what, Let me let me retrack this. I'm looking at who I'm talking about here. He's real fickle. Yeah, I got him going to Golden Stead. I have him making the wrong decision. But to me, his best fit with being Philly. I feel like the best will
be in Philly. But because of the Klay Thompson situation, he can fit. I feel like him and Andrew Wiggins would be a very hard combination, a very underneath a very underrated hard comment him and Wiggins. Wiggins is on the trading block, he is, but you gotta keep Wiggins. Now, if you signed PG, you got to keep Wiggins. Or do you sign Tobias in PG? Tobias is unreliable. That's why I Philly don't like him. I don't think. I don't think That's why I don't think that's Bias.
Is on his way to a veterans minim or close to it. Yeah, no, I think Tobias can get Fife in the playoffs. He was dropping this because there's a lot of free agents are here. He's very inconsistent. That's very inconsistent. That's why Philly don't like him. As Clay Thompson his hit free agency after him and Golden State couldn't come from an agreement. Lakers, Clippers, seventy six ers are looking at Clay along with the Magic Where does Clay go? And my thing is this, I pose this question
on social media. I'm posing it to the table. Now. Is Clay Thompson less valuable than Draymond Green? I think? Yeah, this is still blowing my mind. Shooters. Why he had he had a bad year. I get it. The year before that it was bad. It was keep us hurt. The year before the year before that, it was before you go too far away from the Philly hold up. No, no, no, no, no, before you go too far away. You have to also remember MAXI is a restricted agent. Sont Philly has to offer him something.
Yeah, they got to give him the and if they don't offer him a big deal. Another team can come right in and swoop him up. So again I say they will though paying PG, paying him, paying MB what else? Those are probles back in the day. Those are Those are future issues. Okay, whatever you sayd those are future issues right now. To answer your question, Draymond is more valuable than play here is because he is still a defensive stopper. Draymon Green, like him or not, is
a defensive anchor. He is still a top defensive player in the NBA. He he is the best defensive player on Golden State, and he is their dog. Do the problems outweigh the success? No, they don't won four championships. They won four championships. I hate when you say that because you say true, you say it like it is because of Draymond. You have one, you have one of the greatest. The heart and what of Golden State? His hurt and soul of gold I'll say it. I'll say it.
He's a hurting soul. He is a defensive anchor. Hold on the second, real quick ten sometimes he's ten and twenty. Whoa thank you? He's not quite goodness rotten. Okay, But my thing is this My thing is this. If you he's one of the few true defensive players left in our sport. Golden state is I look at the Golden State. I'm compare them to Pumpy breaks before I say this, comparing him to the three headed monster in Chicago, ro and Jordan thank you, or even horse Grant.
You take away one, you're ruined the set. You don't because he hasn't done anything in two years. He's older. No ju do did not oil him the loyalty of come on, Clay, work with us. They tried. He I just want a lower term deal. I can take less money. He said. It's over. It's over, it's over. I'm gonna tell you like this, this ain't bogus. I'm gonna very rare. There's no you watch power. There's no loyalty in this game. Basketball ain't nothing
but power. But in this, in this, in the scheme of sports, the viper of my soul that you compare the n B a power, Go ahead, it's a big the fiber of my being. You just compare. Go ahead, because he just compared. Okay, here's a big rich I can't believe with the fiber of my being. But he just did that. My question to y'all is, though, thinking about it, if you Clay, how do you get back at Golden State. You score fifty on him and we score fifty. I didn't say fifty fifties out of range forty.
I think you rejuvenate your career, and I think Clay can do it. I just I just think the know how. I'm sorry, rejuvenated how. I don't think Clay is missing the step. I just think that the issue of his contract was a big distraction for him. I agree with you. I just think I agree with you. So get him signed. You keep that, you keep that. They have already made it clear we want to keep this three together by trading pool, by getting rid of the new
guys that they were brought in to keep these three together. Bringing and you bring he's the one that's got the go. You bring in PG who damn near shows up the same amount, and you want to give him max money and he's in. That's why I said, you want to give me Nicholas and dimes. I'm going to l A on purpose. So we're not hearing anything about Damar DeRozan. We're not hearing anything about o g on the Noble
we're not already signed with the Knicks. Oh he signed it. I'm just I'm just going sign o g already signed the mart The Roe said he wait on what PG gonna donna make it? James Harden's off the table, k C as a player option Clay Obviously we're hearing about tobayas where it is? Where does Clay go there? Don't we get Tyres Jones is still out there? Clay? When where does Clay Thompson go? Uh? I told you already. I think I think it's gonna. I think him and PG will
play together. I don't unless PG signs with the Warriors. I got played. Actually, Lo, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it buck with you. If I'm Clay, it depends if he's going after money. He's going with Orlando because Orlando will give him four years, one hundred million dollars, right, But if I'm trying to win and go discount, I might I playing with Lebron and Anthony Davis. It's about going to the Lakers. I know. It's my thing is like, if I'm Clay, I'm pissed right now.
So my only way of beetting back at you light skins are more dirty, his feelings is hurt. Yeah, there they more. They're more liable to get pety with you. I'm going to l A. I get to be with my father facts and across the water in it, and I get to stay in my home. You're going Clippers are going Lakers. I'm going Lakers. He ain't going Clippers, ain't going. No Clippers. Nobody want to They don't want to go there. No nobody want to play with There's
no legacy there. He can play where Kobe played, he can play with Lebron, he can play with a d and And let's hold up, we're overlooking that the Lakers than in drafting Briannie their seven. Their pick was actually pretty good. Here's the best shooter in the draft, and the Lakers are missing shooting. And here's the thing, Clay doesn't happen to listen to me. Clay doesn't have to be Steph. Clay can get twelve to fifteen, and you know he'll be He'll be perfect for the Lakers. Angelo Russell,
no, Ray Allen. He's good. He'll be better than good. Think of it like this, Think of all those shots like Tory and Prince got and Uh, what's the other dude who was shooting all the damn bricks? Kevin Porter signs with the Clippers. Who Kevin Porter Junr? Hedy did? Whoever? Did? About? From the Denver Nuggets. Kevin Porter Jr. Kevin Porter Junior signed a two year deal with the Los Angeles Clippers. That's not Kevin Porter in Denver. That's Michael Porter. Michael Porter, Kevin Porter
Jr. From the Rockets. I was just gonna say he had to be with the Rocket the Rockets. He was over there with Martin and them. Ever, he was young with them young dudes. I thought he was. I thought he was on his rookie deal. No, they've been three years now with the Clippers. But if I'm Clay, will let go to LA.
Because here's the thing we gotta remember with these players. And you'd like to call him light Skins because you racist, like man Clay, who's really leaving California to go to a cold to Philly as bougie and as trash talking as he is going to Philly. No, he's gonna go to an LA team or Florida team, Orlando or the Lakers are picks. But do I go to Orlando and we stank it up for a while. It depends on what he's chasing. He's after money. Remember, he wants financial security.
Bro, I don't think he needs the money. He don't need anybody wants. But with the Lakers offer him enough more years but the same amount of money. But the Lakers have The report from Woes has already said that Clay is willing to come in at a mid level exception for twelve over thirteen million year to play with the Lakers because Bron is willing to let go some money. Oh this is a dude that beat up his girlfriend and the Clippers sign.
I'm sorry, I just I'm trying to see that allative behavior. That's how you want to expose him. That's how you You didn't say nothing good about him first, just say I didn't know who he was until you gon'a say some good first, like who like, oh, he had a good season last year, but he also he did he have a good season, so he beatup his girlfriend. He you didn't say that part first, though. Did you see her face? He said, Oh that's the dude who
beat up his girlfriend. You see her her face? Okay, he gave her a nice one too, nice two pieces with a biscuit. But that's what they say. Did you see her face? I didn't see what you say. She said you her faith. Don't call for Kesey. Don't take the bait. That was a thigh. They gonna in a biscuit. They're gonna have you. They gonna they're gonna paint you as a woman hater. No, don't do it. I say you were. I said, don't take the bay two piece of biscuit and cole slaw, he's like, want
some more. Where he's signing, he's signing the opposite of where PG goes. If PG goes to Philly, go say, work out the deal. If he is off the table, no he's not. He's an unrestricted free agent. He could come back. They ended talks. They did. But if PG goes to Philly, hey, Clay, hey man, I'm sorry, let's talk how much how many years you're trying to get Let's not be a food. Don't be a food. Don't let you get you in the bottom of the barrel. Okay, So look at it like this. When
when that happened, When when talks stopped? That means that the GM is done now The only person that could convince Clay to come back now is Clay ownership. The owners got to come meet with Clay. Now. You know, whatever the owners doing, they got stop whatever they're doing and come and come talk to him, because now the GM can't get the deal done. Clay. Clay is basically told this right now, is saying. Clay is saying, right now, I'm done talking to y'all GM. Either you come
see me or I'm signing with somebody. Mike, Are you okay? You know what I'm saying? Yeah? But I think we're now. I really think about the PG. Is Gonnas going his path is going to direct a couple of people's paths. Of course, because some people who aren't even talking to right now, because it's the PG Clay Thompson market. Just like with OKAC thunder sound yeah, I mean, just like with Lebron. The whole Free agency was taking hostage that year because people thought Bron was leaving. But
here's the thing. Does PG and Clay does that in tonight or do they play this thing out? Does it go into the week, does it go into the for what's today today's Sunday? I say, by Thursday, we have a we have a PG signing. Okay, I say about Thursday. What about a Clay Clay signs right after before the end of the night. We have a PG in the night's gonna sign it right? Let me trip, let me this is a we in a panic right now, I say,
Tuesday, Tuesday the latest. Let's roll. Let's keep going. Lebron James has declined his fifty one point four million dollar option and become a free agent. Jameis willing that we talked about before, James is willing to take a pay cut if the Lakers landing established playmaker or big man. James Hardener is off the off the free agency he signed with the Clippers got Klay Thompson and you got Boutoonish So from New New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Who should the Lakers be looking a pair of Lebron James and Anthony Davis. I think the obvious answer is Clay Thompson. But if they signed big man from New Orleans, I'll be cool with that too. If I'm l A clause that gives Anthony Davis free up the big power forward. If I'm if I'm l A this is what I'm doing right now, all
right, I'm going to be stepped in. We knew he was gonna say something first, because with you, if I'm l A, I'm going to take that Bucks trade for Brooke. Wait, who are they offering us for Brook? That's what they haven't said yet, So I'm guessing this. So I'm guessing it's probably one of the young dudes and some picks bowl Champ and no, the Lakers giving up some picks for Bok get there, because the Bucks are offering you a center that can shoot and defend. But he's but
he's old. The rest of the Lakers go ahead. I'm taking that Brook deal. I give up Matt Christie. He already signed a four year deal. You're already signed a four year deal. They can do a sign and trade. Christy. He's Lakers offered them a four year deal. They can do a sign the trade. I give the Bucks somebody young and maybe Christian Woods for Brooks. Christian Woods, are you played here? But the Bucks need somebody younger. He's younger than Brook. You can also shoot at three.
Dude, I got a good question for you. Do you get the crack cocaine fresh off the boat or do you just like way for it to kind of like settle in what you mean, Christian Wood. So here are the players? Get here are the players? I got you? Who do you rather want her her ship? Neither? Listen? These These are the players the Bucks will have a choice right now, Yes they do. These
are the players that are linked to the trade. Angelo, Russell, Hawshi Mora, Vanderbilt and Gabe Vincent are all linked to this trade for brook And I say Gabe goes first because with us already he wasn't with us, he was Wami, wasn't Gave with us. Didn't he play with us that year? And had he was with Miami? That put the palls on USTe. I hate that fact that he did with most people have a career night against
us. That's what I don't want. Gave Vince. I'll see what he can do, but I already know that's who the Lakers is going to offer first. They're probably going to offer Ruie and and Gave and a draft pick for Brook. I'll take it. I'll take I'll take Hashama because give me. The only reason the only region of the Lakers are probably gonna get rid of Gabe is because they drafted Brannie and they need some minutes for him. Gabe is gonna want some minutes You think gonna play? You think Gave don't
want minutes? Gave wout almost sit you with both these microphones. Are you telling me, Brian on the practice squad, we didn't even get to this. Are you telling because that's how outrageous that statement was. Are you telling me the Briannie James is gonna be minutes away from a get from a veteran. Well, they got a rookie coach who knows and I hardly don't like d low Well. And and remember too, remember who they're picking up.
They're they're considering adding Rushian Rondo as an assistant coach that can help Ronnie's game. I don't think he's gonna have the Lakers, but Jesus so if I'm the Bucks, I like Hashimara and Angelo because it's a one year rental and he can shoot a little bit every other game and were always done for some international fan base. So you know, all right, because of the time,
we're gonna get into this, uh this pact. This past week was the NBA with a twenty twenty four NBA draft, so noticeable pickups the Atlanta Hawks at the number one draft pick. They picked up U this French black dude. You don't say the name zach. What's his name? Zachary? He said, you're better at this Who's what's his name? Zachary? What where that number? Really quickly, really quick? Talk about the number one pick, zach? Yeah, because I just got this. I just got
some news. Ksep signed with Orlando for eighty six million. How many years? I think it was four? Hold on, let me just double check real quick. Oh my god. That opens the door for PG and he signed for three years, sixty six million. Told you, I told you. He told you what I say. He was worth twenty two. I said it eighteen to twenty two. I told you money. He's after that bag in that extra year. It's always about that extra year. Man.
Players want that money to spread. I'm not. I'm not gonna see here and dog Ado for whoever he wants to, whoever he want to go, Like chase the bag, Chase the bag. I get it. But for you to go to Orlando, it's clearly about the bag. When you go to Orlando, you're clearly about the bad who. Orlando is not a bad team. Bro, not a bad team. But then if they could pick up, if they could get PG and Clay is the goal not to you know what. I think they pitched them to that too. Hey, you
know we're gonna get Clay. Like we're going for Clay, We're going for Okay. Real quick, the Atlanta Hawks picked up the number one draft pick. What was his name, Kesey. I don't even know how to say their name because I have not practiced it like I normally do. But to be honest with you, he averaged ten points. I really don't care. And he was the number one pick. He was Zachary Roshire. He's a French African American. I'm gonna tell you, man, this drift was so
hard to watch. Let's just get to it. Let's just talk about Briannie second round because this drift, none of these notable picks were anything worth talking. Here's a couple of things real quick. First two draft picks was French dudes. Be honest with you, they didn't really do anything. They just seventh foot and their teams picked them up. Uh. The last four though,
I actually do want to talk about these guys. You got Minnesota timber Woods picked up Ronnie Uh, Dial Dylon Ham dyling Ham, who's a solid PG. I hear he's young, but he's solid. Him under Mike Connelly can get him better acquainted. In the future, maybe like two years he'll be a solid point guard. Uh his name is Rob Dillionham who former Player of the Year, former player Memphis Grizzlies, got zach Ineman. He's don't do that. Don't do it to make that a sound thing. Okay,
so what about Jared McClain. The dude who be playing is knowing zeke? This draft was horrible? Okay? Can we talk about the Lakers pick? Well there there their pick was, Okay, who Briannie? You know, Bronnie named who? You know? Everybody from the draft flasses? Who to me this year? Until proven? You know what? This this draft bigs some nothing. I cried, Is that to do what you just ad? Yeah? I did. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Who are they?
Who? I'm just like, I'm just like you doing what we're talking about it. This is something the two thousands for a draft. Who are they? I don't know who they are? I don't I don't either, and I watched college ball. I don't know if that makes this bad in fact, no no, no, no, no, sorry, correct me if I'm wrong. One of the first four picks all overseas. I don't say like the first the third people san Antonio's he was he was from somewhere.
I forgot where, pretty sure from Paris. But now let's get to let's get into the mean potatoes of this. As predicted by Isaiah Moore aka Zeke aka point guard aka me. It was predicted by everybody. Shut up, I put it to this three months ago. Okay, so maybe pull a clip. So maybe pull a clip. In the second round, with the fifty fifth pick, the Los Angeles Lakers have drafted Brownie James. That's tossing now really quickly before we get into this. Nepotism exists. Nepotism exists in
all industries. I am not a hater against nepotism. I actually I can say I enjoy it. I just need it is what it is. You agree with it? I yeah, per sec you agree with it. It is what it is. It is what it is. Don't want to say agree agrees to what. I'll just say it is what it is. One of those things were like it happens, you know, just like white Man, only one was the Only problem with this though, is it's not as for so public publicized for other people as it is for him as them.
That's the way you're going with this, that's what you're going with this. You could have said so many different because it's so many different people who have used this today advantage. How not? Because how the hell do you think Austin River State in the league so long? True, don't do that. No, I'm going to do this because if you're going to call out, if you want to call out the Lions bringing in their sheeps, call out all of them, call them all out. Here's the thing about that.
That's my problem. Mike Dunley. No, No, you said call them out. I'm about to Yanni's Mike Dunley be senior. Don Rivers, stop it. Bill Walton, Walton, Bill Walton, bro Bill walk the lake. Let's stop Bill. But he did? They did? Bill Walk Walton is a pot for privilege. And that particient what about the uh? What about what's the what's the coach that will interview for the Lakers. What's the name I want to just interview for the Lakers. It's all sitting on the
bench and we don't even get off the bench on the squad. Uh, he's just there average zero point two Doug Lee not what's the coaching? The Lakers just they interviewed on you and he turned down the job from the college. Yeah wasn't him. Oh I give what you s Yeah, Son, I'm saying, say, it goes on all across the world, but nobody
talks about it. You know why, you know why? And but hold on, It'd be more like it if it was some god players that was worth talking about him, if it was some players in this draft that were worth talking about it. For Gary Payton, I would Scottie Pippen. But none of them players should be in the NBA. But bro. But at the end of but at the end of the day, the number one pick
in this NB eight draft average ten point nine points a game. And hold up, let me go Fox pick average two point nine point nine and went first round. And you're talking about the fifty fifth pick by the Los Angeles Lakers. Because he had cardiac or wrestling was had to make a readjustment to his life. Rick Berry, Greg Anthony, Mike Bibbie manute, no, no, no, you asked me tray tray tray. All those people average more than two point five game. They just beat. You're gonna make me
this person Austin Rivers was balling stop it. Then make me this person Na Rivers was balling at Duke, he was balling at high school. Then make me this person the naasing in the league. I didn't say he's very angry, he hates Lebron. I don't never said hold on, let me, never said he didn't deserve to go to the n b A. I said, you didn't talk about it. You didn't. You're right, this is
my point. You're Richard Jumar Rivers. What's college ready? And I'm he was not n b A ready Patrick Ewing n b A ready when he came in the league. He sat on a bitch and didn't move for the first two or three years. A J. Griffin, the kid of Adrian Griffin Junior. Still Ron Harper, the nasaist Gerald Henderson Jr. I earned it. I'm what has he done to on it. I'm not saying this guy is in trash. I'm not saying he's not trash, But I'm talking about
a young kid who's selling it has not even been leak. Yet you don't even know what this is. Somebody to short. He is too short. He can't he can do is jump and that gets you nowhere. You shall see. You ain't even gave him a chance to see yet. So this is what I'm going to say now that Zeke then lost his voice and got all emotional. You're very You don't look at this. You gonna look at this clip and say, man, I was emotional. You know the game. Listen, no, no, no, hey for Lebron more than level
of the game. Let me say this because you already yelled, So let me have what I want to say. Because you was over here yelling. He was like he was breaking up with somebody. Kesey was on the whole. He deserves a chance. Y'all don't even know what he capable. Hold up, you won't bring all people Austin Rivers. Z. That was a bad call. But Zeke, all people bring up You're dre. You're just naming people who fathers are in the league. And then because I'm naming people
who got in be based on nepotism, and they suck. I didn't name Austin Rivers, and every player I named sucked. Every player you named sucked, did not suck? Did they average twenty points in college? No they did not. My thing is this even Jordan's son sucked average eight points a game, sucked. Did he get to the league, Yes, he didn't. Well g league, he did, but he got waved. He got waved, he got drafted, he got your name called, yeah, and
he got waved. Scrapping to Brony in three years when Lebron retired, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Lebron Brownie James is gonna be on a twelve man roster and we're gonna be hoping and praying they put him in the game for what a moment. Look at this for the first time in NBA history of Lebron James and Bronie James in the game at the same time. Oh my god, let's give it to him. He's gonna get a standing ovation. This is not a basketball
move. This is a celebration move. This is an entertainment move. This is a business move. Yo, okay, okay, okay, Paul, business, the NBA is business. All peers getting bat like Bronnie James is not. Hey. I want to see these two on the court at the same time for a moment and pray to God, Lebron James get get a steal his son coming down the lane right behind him. He threw it back to his son. He threw a lout. Were creating the whole the wade
Lebron James cock back moment all over again. But let me tell you something. If you think it was hard for Lions o'bald when he came into the league, it's gonna be twenty times harder for Bronnie James. And and then on top of that and it's not gonna be able to handle it. You'll know that. Okay, Now, are you done going off like Lebron broken be on his heels every single time? Should you get? You listen? So he shouldn't be out there. Listen to me? Why listen to me?
Tell me somebody in the for you go on. Let me before you go dragon, tell me, just give me one person in this NBA draft of twenty twenty four that you are looking for that you are looking for to sing. Tell me one player that you are looking for the scene in this NBA draft this year besides Bronni No, but tell me one person. Let me tell you that you are specifically looking for to play beside bron who can't say their name. So listen, you know, I don't know, I
know, I don't don't know what. So let me let me can I please? Because you just had a Stephen e f g h I moment. Okay, may god, he's made my head hurt any moment. Listen to me, Kevin Durant Junior. Okay, Kevin Durant, listen to me. Listen to me. You are acting like you didn't know that this was gonna happen. Hold up, let me just don't make it. This is rhetorical. This is all rhetorical. This is all rhetorical, so it means you
don't have to say anything quick. I only interrupted. I knew Donald Trump was gonna be president. Tell me I gotta like it. I don't think anyone knew. I think we were all shocked. We knew we were our fingers crossing what gonna happen, But we knew did we have to like it? I gotta ticket sitting now. Listen. We ain't gotta go ahead, so we're not gonna bring politics into it. Yeah, I bet you all go ahead, go ahead. So to e TV's point, his assist from
his father is gonna be his first point. No greater moment than that. Uh shout out to e TV for common other day. Here's the thing, here's a thing. I have zero problems with Bronnie writing his father's coketails to get drafted. Here's my problem. Oh, he's taking away a spot. No, the Bucks drafted with the twenty second pick, a player that averages less than Brinny number one. Okayt number two. That's a lot of players that shouldn't have been drafted. But you gotta go with what you gotta go
with. Do I think he's NBA ready? No, it does not change my mind that he is not NBA ready. It does not. However, I have no problems with Bronnie being drafted to his father's team. Your father is the greatest player that ever played the game. You take away basketball privilege and nepotism has been going on for years, and public traded companies, fathers and sons are CEOs and let me finish and coos. Right, Let's take
it to a scripted business World Wrestling Entertainment. Before they sold it was Vince, his son, his son in law, his daughter, and his wife all running the company. Right, his grandkids on the roster, right, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, all his cousins, his whole Samoan heritage are all on the roster. So the greatest player since Michael does it. And it's a problem. Here's why I have no problems with it, because I just named fifteen players that sucked in the NBA. Didn't mention Clay, didn't mention
Austin because they were somewhat good. Bronnie is now here. Kesey says, give him a chance. No, he gonna get this smoke too. He gonna get this NBA smoke because now you on the team. It ain't no more. He just a kid. No, you've been drafted with the lights of Hollywood, the Los Angeles Lakers. The type of thing that he's about to experience. Yes, it will be pressure, but he was born for this pressure. He is the son of Lebron James. They booed this kid
in high school. They booed this kid at all American Games. They booed this kid just for being Lebron's Oh no, you you you and and crying for ten let me finish in another suit. Cross some more for Brianni I am not upset that he was drafted. Is he NBA ready? I'm sticking to it. He is not. However, he has the greatest coaches and his father. He has the greatest agent and rich who basically took the NBA
hostage. He called teams, threatening in them not to drive. He says, gonna go play as hilarious, hilarious, hilarious, but it shows the flex hilarious. Welcome to the NBA, Young King. However, play times over. That's all I was saying, Welcome to the NBA, but play times over. Hold on ago. He said, you wanted to hear his name, and he'll play for three years until Briant. I get what you're saying. He wants to smoke. He gets the smoke right, and I
agree one hundred and ten percent. He get the smoke now, he get the barber shop talk, he get the podcast talk, He get all because he sucks. He get all the talk. But at the end of the day, we don't know what he's capable of. Cac stop it. A lot of people underestimating what he might be capable of. He got Lebron James in his DNA Nope, loo guy. They talked about Lebron even even what
he did, they still talked about him like a dog. They Darius Miles said, you think this young kid is going to come in and change our franchise? Lebron not average four point anything. Ever, you still not finish he he doesn't have to to come in and be able to make a difference or make a name for himself. He's not going to be Lebron James. Everybody knows that. Everybody on the dam I'm planet know that. But at the end of the day, he got some DNA and he got some basketball
IQ that he can survive in the league if Austin Rivers can. So let me just go to this real quick. Thank you Geezy for this. Okay, I just got just gotta do it. So me and CB and CJ another talent here on Death Fresh Network. What is this called TDR network TV tone Deaf network, Well deaf frustrated them of a show. So it's all in, y'all get it do it to rupt me. So he posted a meme and it says when Briani requested the trade in twenty twenty six, and
it had Ghost and Tyreek on it. So I responded when his dad retires, he'll get cut anyway. Book it so CJ young younger guy went on a little rent. Y'all, gotta stop hating on my guy. He's not a generational talent, but he can find his knit somewhere. I said, I'm happy that Brian used his influence to get in, but basketball sciale, he ain't got it. Doctor Bird liked the stat and CJ just went on the red. He said, very good three and D player. Stop listening
to the media and the internet. He played good in the All American Game and had one of the best draft combines out of anyone this year. Top five in verte and in int vert vertical vertical, thank you, top two in shooting percentage. Watched the film and then doctor Bird goes, oh boy, you're gonna glaze bron and Bronnie two. And then CJ goes, y'all, acting like he can't have a Gary Payton two type of career is crazy. You know how many scrubs are in the league. He's gonna be a
two way and get playing time around the All Star break. I said, if it makes you feel any better, the Nasais is fine. When is out? When when Greek retires too, he said again, acting like Brody can't have a GP two careers? Crazy? He plays great defense, It can hit an open three, y'all acting like I said, he's the next go I said, c J, you're a little sensitive there, brou Are you on the payroll like CAC? Are you want to pay roll like GC?
So there are some Bronni supporters out there. I'm glad. I'm glad he made it, but bruh, he is. That's facts. That's facts. I just I like that he was drafted, but he is in for a ride. I just want this to be I just want this to be said, because then think about it, y'all be bringing up all these players and something like that. Look at these college stats, but they didn't have but they didn't translate to great NBA careers. If Bron didn't go in this
draft, he might have went undrafted. Oh f go in this draft. Next you's gonna have some stuff. Well, it's gonna have some stuffs, and Bron might play two or three more years and then you know what's funny about this? To me, they're gonna drive well Bryce Maximus two. They asked Bryce, hey, do you think your father will play until you come into the league, which is in like two years. He said, I hope not. That's o D. He'll be forty two. I said,
you are right, son, what's old? What that's oh? What that's o D. What's overdoing it? Overdoing it? You think? So? Yeah, I think he'll be forty forty two. He's forty and still he's forty and still he's forty. Outworks all these young guys. That's all he does. He's I'm not mad at that. He's forty and he's he's still averaging. He's still max ready. He asked your question this drug testing.
Of course, if he has, they wouldn't tell us about it. Let me stop, because that's that's so Brian getting JJ higher Briannie on the same team as the greatest basketball move I've ever seen in mine time. I am actually surprised that NBA didn't hit him with tampering. Are you crazy? I know, I'm just surprised because there's a whole I have a question for you, though, this is my question for you. Anybody say, but he
did it all through rich fall. This was brilliant, brilliant. Hold on, I got a question, how long do you want to see Lebron James play until because you see what happened to Mike. Do you want to see that happen to Lebron or do you want to see him go out in a blaze of glory? Because it's it's the only two options, him going to blaze of glory or him getting to that ugly point to be like, why are you on a court? What's the ugly point? Because forgetting those wizard
years. My thing is, though, even if if Lebron takes a back seat all the way back seat roll, he can play the four and just getting minutes like Blake Griffin did for a few years. And that's the that's what you would sell you how you want him to go out? Because Blake Griffin was left averaging like four or five points a game, barely getting in Because you know that the NBA is a young man's game. That's fine. So I'm asking you, how long do you want Lebron to play and till
his body tell him it's over? So you want him to go into he averaging That's what Kobe Bryant did. Kobe went into his body, said he was he was terrible. He said it, He said it himself. I played until my body told me no. So you want him to go out like that? That's how they go out, That's how the greats go out. Jordan went out there until his body told him no more. But he left the game back twice. Don't do that. And on top of that,
we're talking about don't do that. It's not taking away from anything to do with greatness. It's him as a as a as a competitiveness in his mind still that I'm gonna still do this until my body tell me I can't. That's the mentality that him. Kobe shot all of these goods. Look at shot look a cow many years it took him to lead. I disagree with you. I disagree with you, hole up Ze. So are you telling me Kesey this is the most dominant center in NBA Kesey, this is
a legit question. Right. He was on like his twelfth team. He retire and I think so that's gonna ask you, are you prepared for or do you want Lebron to go out? Sad case before you answer his question, because I've had a burning one. Do you think that Lebron only decided to play this long to get Bronni in the NBA, and do you believe that when he retires, Brianni will be cut? Two part question, do you think lebron only played this long to get his kid in the league?
And do you think when Bronni caused a career, when bron caused a career, that Bronni will be cut. Bronni played in the league this long as because of his love for the game and his passion for it. It just so coincidentally he get to do a part of history with it. Ain't no different than him breaking Kareean record. He did it because it was a part of him still being able to play. Hey, that was one of his
goals played. The sun was on his goal. It wasn't he didn't have a goal to break that record, but they just came across and he's like, well, I might as well do it. Ain't no different than damn. I'm still good as hell. I can still play with my son, come in the league. I'm gonna do it. If he's still feeling that way in two more years, I still feel good. I'm gonna play mother
son, come in the league. That's on him. None of us got the choice to tell him when it's time for him to sit his ass down, because after gave them Vincolins should have sat his ass down a long time ago. You know what I'm saying. It's a lot. But in their
minds there, what are you mind's playing tricks on you. These players don't understand what life is without basketball, and it's gonna be even and it's going to be even harder for people like Bron, Kobe and Jordan them who have been the faces of the league at for many many years, to be like, I'm done telling us, because if that's the case, then Bron could have been done. So you're telling us. So you're telling me you want
to see your forey of your favorite players go outside. What you're telling I want to see Bron play the game until he he knows he can't. That's not about going outside. How's it going outside? If that's the same case, then Kobe went out sad. He did. He was terrible. He was not terrible. He he was yay, he was he was Come on, you, you don't like you don't know what going out sad look like.
Yeah, his final game was good. Yeah, his final game was good because it was between and they still lost, so it didn't help him in his career. That's the thing you gotta remember. I just want to know what Karl Malone he did it sad sad. I'm just saying, you call it sad, but it was how they wanted to leave the game. I'm not saying it's right. What's wrong with it? You was a fan? What is wrong with it? Going out sad? What's wrong with it?
They're going out sad? Gary Payton did it sad? Gary stayed around, because that's true, he got one with Miami. You know who didn't go outside? I think, uh even know he left that. John I say, John Stock, don't Vince Carter didn't go outside. I don't think he went out side. He went off. He went out on fourteens. And Dark didn't go outside. Dirt didn't go outside. I thought Vince Carter even when he left indecent. Do you not remember Dark? And last year
he was go back to the Luca Luka rookie year. Go back and look at his stats. But it was more of a don't look at it. Don't look at his stats. Go back and look at Dirk. How he played. He all he did was played, he plays, He was mentoring, he was he was that's that's it. And what do you think Lebron is gonna do on his way out? He can mentor for he can mentor for three or four years on his way out, called the shots. It's not you getting mentor by the goat for three years. And so daddy,
that's his teammate now. So you know what I did see? What was funny? Them lot of memes. I'm curady to say. I saw two really good ones. One was don't say the way one not that one that's inappropriate. It was it was, hey, son, uh, with what we do when we do, when we do on the road, you don't go back and tell your mama. That was funny. That was funny. Bed They for the filed about bridside chicks like you cheating on my mother. That's the first one, the one from basketball, Yeah you got these girls.
And then the second one was on the court when they have a disagreement in practice it's so get your over. There's a dude on YouTube videos and they were doing the press conference Ron he got signed, and the other dude in the back was being Lebron and he was telling him all states like yeah man, and yeah he gonna start and you know d ain't okay? You cool that right? And he was like, no, I'm spot No, no, brother, you're gonna go ahead and start. You're gonna start by
twelve games. And then he was like, okay, so I'm gonna start referred to as Lebron? What what? What I could even have? Nass, you have a friend. This is all I'm gonna say. Because he's a free agent too, if the Bucks re signed him, I know all I need to know, y'all. Nasais is a free agent. Yes he is. He is. Remember he got hurt over and what you call it? He's still a free agent win huh? Before he is still a free
agency. He is a he is an unrestricted free agent. Tore his a C. He tore his a C. L know that was his exit. Come on, man, ain't gonna sign them. No, they're not gonna sign him. That was his exit off the roster. So that the people could stop talking about it. I liked that conspiracy theory. I like that.
Some of you other pretty stupid. But that's a good if he if he just because if he just go out and regular free agency, they're gonna be thinking they're gonna have all types of things to talk about your brother brother like this. Yeah, while you go play in Greece. So it's all types of stuff. So you say and retire. He d too, he made money, he sucked well. He has a couple of records, most files ever committed, lowest points, every score, Bridy, don't go after
those goals. This is this has been a very long episode. Real quick, before we go, we gotta spend a good and what we will be dead after this. We got to spend a good five minutes talking about the Bucks. What are they going to do? It? Really really quickly. Hey, Dre, you're the first person. All right, let's wrap it up. Back, guess it has been two hours. If anyways, I've given I've given a lot of Sunday to y'all for the past four years. At least you could sol some respect, clown. Listen, show, I
just gave you some, my man. Listen. Okay, let's real close this. Okay, So the Bucks said, you know what, stupid, don't do that anyways? Uh fine, I missed me when I'm going we got to So the Bucks picked up two draft picks. I didn't know they had the first round draft pick they did. It was it was terrible. It was terrible. It was a J. Johnson. He'll be wearing number SEVENC. We should have took Brady insteap Hey J. Johnson? Cheezy?
What up? Bro? Who should the Bucks resigned off the current roster? More after to day the last episode than oh year? You know? You know what I'm saying, Yeah we got we got live on cheesy for me. The Bucks have a number of free agents to keep it a Buck ag. Yeah they do. They have the nazis Is off the books. Pat bever the question. He asked us, who should we resign with the current roster? Uh, cheesy. They all can go. They all can go.
None of the current free agents the Bucks need to resign. That includes J. Crowder, that includes Pat Bav. It certainly includes the Nasais. They all can go now. I will say this my heart, My heart, says Pat Bab. My heart says Pat Beav. I was surprised. I'm not surprised, but I'm I'm man. We moved off of him. Crowder can go. Everybody else can go, But my heart says Pat Bed. I ain't gonna hold you what you got on that with, Bro.
Everybody can go. Everybody but they're not free agents. But yes, I'm just saying that Beasley can go to the most inconsistent shooting I've seen all seasons. No, no, no, Beasley had the NBA record all season. He needs to stay. He had the record, but in games where it counts, he doesn't always show up. He's inconsistent. He is very inconsistent. I didn't like his playoff run. The whole Bucks is inconsistent. I didn't like his playoff. I say, get with a doc. Has to
start over real quick. The two draft picks we have up here, here are the Bucks free agents, the Nasais, Malik, Pat beav Crowder, Gallinari old self and Ty Washington junior. They all can go because I'm tired of us being the oldest team in the league. Can state he's still young. Everybody else gotta go. Everybody else can go. I'm saying all I say I will. The books are in the situation that we don't find ourselves saying we have the money to spend. Well, here's another one who shout
the Bucks targeted free agency. I like the center from New Orleans. Uh, I like him. I like Tobias Harris and and I don't I don't think we can get into it, but I think we should get into the Clay, the Clay sweepstakes. Clay, we're not doing that. I'm not saying that we are, but I would like you just said about terrible weather in the East, Coach, I don't mean I can't hope, I can't. We're better than Philly by long shot. By long shot, Philly is
a terrible Let me stop, let me not knock. If you add, if the Bucks can pick up somebody like Clay, it's gonna be problems in the East. I'm saying, tell you something. I know it. We know it's Clay Clay. A different conversation. Hey, hey man, okay, well told already bought the chickens. What do you need me to help you? Help you help me? Okay? Because Clay is guaranteed ship that's where that's how value championship pedigree. That's that's guaranteed because because remember the Bucks
passed on him in the draft. That's very true for Brandon Jennings. We ain't know about him. I think we picked up Jennings just like now we think he's a you know the these knees per se uh Trey Middle make a miracle that would be that would be hilarious. Well, let's also forget that. Clay Thompson said on the Bucks not drafting him, I thank God every day. I know, yeah, California for that's I know. I don't know doct twenty fifteen, when they asked him about the Bucks passing up on
him, he said, I thank God every day. That's all I want the Bucks to target in free agency. Here, uh, Andrew Wiggins, brandon Ingram, trade Middleton and make a miracle? He above in my eyes? Who else we gonna get? Cheesy? Man? I want? I want brandon Ingram or Andrew Andrew Wiggins. I think Andrew Wiggins is a missing piece that we don't know we need. I like that too, But who do you give up for Wiggins? I'll give him middic He's inconsistent shooting though,
that's what we struggle with, need shooters. But he'll make it up on the defensive end. Who's gonna score the buckets? Though? Dame and But that would be nice to throw Wiggins on everybody. You throw Wiggins open open. Wiggins is money, but you can throw but you can throw Wiggins on anybody. Want to exactly get him I'm not worried about about Wiggins. That's what That's what Goden State did. They just sit Wiggins on everybody and they said, shoot the ball when it comes to you. So he's our
new Drew Holliday then, because that's what the Bucks did. They put him on all the defensive and he not small, he's he's tall, lengthy, solid. But we gotta give her the Brook first. Yeah, I'm uh, I didn't. I Don'm not the biggest fan of what the Lakers are offering us. If they give us, and technically, who do you take them from the Lakers? Then for Brook? But thirty five, well Brook remembers Brook has one year left. That's the problem I want and I'll take.
I'll take you like Hashimora like that. I don't like him like that, but I'll take who Hashamara and who? Give me Vince too, Gabe, No, give me, give me and give me d' angelo. Russell. Russell is a is a big kind of We don't need Russell. We can use his shooting. He wants to start up. He too streaky, That was streaky too long. Give me, Gabe, give me Ruie and give me Christian Woods where I can at least have another big to put him, because who else you gonna replace it the big? You gotta have some
Bobby down there. Bobby. Bobby is not them. I love this podcast. We we don't say what you want. We're passionate. Bobby. It's not him at the starting five. I'll give you that put back there. He is not a starting five. Go after barely starting five. Go after vow from New Orleans. Vow from New Orleans. He owed his dirt too. He's better than Brook. He's not not go watch outside the block shots. He slows gasoline too. That's fine, Brook Brook Beck is a touch
awight for being cracked broken. The only try I'm taking, the only the only trade I'm taking from New Orleans for Brook it's Ingram. Other than that, I'm not taking no Valacunians. He's free agents. Don't want him at oh, but when I do it, when I do both with that's fine. We pass it. I don't care. I don't. I just want something back for Brooke. I don't want like I see what I get what you're saying, Key, But I don't want Christian Wood because he probably gonna
play. He's gonna be what thirty five games while we the bus got rid of him. Can't stay healthy. But you fell realized he's healthy. He wasn't that. He wasn't healthy. He wasn't in their rotation. He couldn't put the points up. No, because they didn't want to. What are you saying? We were forced to The Lakers wanted to run a smaller lineup with Anthony Davis at the five. That's what they wanted to continue to run with uh Wood Wood at four. Yeah, and Anthony Davis wasn't going,
of course exactly, he was going. Johannis and Christian can play the four five together and switching and wouldn't have and wouldn't have a problem with it. That's my thing, like they wouldn't have a problem with each other, all right, and Wood can also shoot the three Jesus lead. You lost me now you lost you lost jes out for Julius Randall knicks up. Hold on, hold on, I agree with I agree with you, easy though on that Brook, Brook and Middleton package and get us a stud. What's a
stud? No, what's a stud? I usually like brandon ingram stunt, what's the stud? Because you know what's the stud? Because this and no, he's not he's a but you ain't giving up he's solid. But you're not giving up Middleton and him for for vows for vow and Vowells is A. He's a. He's he's off the restricted free agency. I'll take Ingram Thou and one other piece for Middleton and brook that's a lie you ask them when you ask for two pairs and and another one. That's a lot on
three for two. Well, here's the thing, because Brooklyn has one year deal left and and and Middleton has too. You pair them to with uh Zion that could do something, but now you just now you're the injury All Star team with all three of them together. So I don't know, man, the Bucks need to do a lot because I am not as a season ticket holder, I am not like I'm not feeling confident about this season. I'm not feeling confident about this. And that young dude that always kills Indiana,
Miles Turner. I would love that Indiana won't make a deal with us while they help us, then helps them and giving them a solid veteran it does along with Brooke at the center. Okay, so last question then about the Bucks. If the GM doesn't get it, right this year, it's the out. Yep, gym's done. You say, what if the GM doesn't get it right, If we don't win this year, the GM's out. No, here's here's a hot is if Doc Rivers don't get the right
Darvin Ham would be the starting coach after All Star break. Oh, this is Darvin Ham's last chance to coach. We said that at the beginning when we signed that, when we signed Doc. Let me stop because we needs from Doc Rivers. If he doesn't get it right with the Bucks, he's done full season. He will never coach an NBA season. I think they give a full season, full season. Give him a full season, Doc Rivers full season, taking the full season because they're paying too much. They
have a four year deal. Yes, think him a four year dee. This is not Adrian Griffin. He at least makes you through the season. But if he don't do good, Darvin Ham takes over. Yeah, I ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Are you saying we don't make the finals he's fired. Are you saying we make the finals he's still good. I think the Bucks have an expectation in the front office that the Bucks are a championship team. I don't know where the expectations are
coming from because we are not We are in a championship team. We're top five in the East, in the West. I don't think there's a lot of teams that can beat us in the West. We own the West. If you put us against we could beat there is always in our own come. I'll give you that. So the Bucks can compete for a title, I wouldn't say if they make it to the finals, you can't fire Doc for that, bro, they went to the final. No, no, if he makes first round out of there, ye, second round out of
there, he's conference finals. I think you keep them. Think you keep first round, he's done, second round, he's done. We at least make it the least the Eastern Conference finals, Eastern Conference sweep. Done, We're done. You're You're done with anything like this? Finals or bust for the Bucks next year? For him? For Doc, Yes, he has to get us to the finals or he's done. I'm gonna give you a
better one. Not only is he done, Dane's gonna demand the trade because then, let's be honest, Dane, you want to be here, and he shows sometimes. Man, I was gonna say somebody's E's wife gonna do that, You know what I'm saying. I don't think Dame Head was in the game because of everything was going on in his personal life, and people don't understand that part of people. You remember his welcome party, who was four hours late walking away. You were out there waiting. They probably had
been cussing her off for three hours before you are. You never knows can't come with me. They here, they hear my mama, here, they watch. I ain't got nobody to watch. I'm just salty that the fans were waiting. There was thousands of fans out there, and Bro came and just waved and walked in the bi He could have got the mic and said a long trip from Portland. But what it did scream was not one, not two, not three. It did scream that, Hey, I thought
I was on the bandwagon for a little bit about a whole week. The week I remember, we had a whole emergency episode for that. Listen, Dame don't care about location. He just wants to win. You see that now, But then your kids missing. But I'm just seeing him if personal life took a toll on him and he got to find a way to bounce back this summer. I think this will be the summer. This summer, I think things have have, you know, regressed. He's been in a
situation. Now now he knows, he knows what's suspected of him. He knows how to come in next year. That's true, and he the coaching staff. Like it's said in concrete, I don't think it's gonna move. I do like the move of Darva coming into training camp with everything set except for the Washington and hopefully gets for the better. I don't expect the Bucks will make a lot of noise in free agency because we have a money problem. But I'm telling you the Bucks need. The Bucks need to hurry up
and make some choices now. We don't have time to wait until September. We don't, is he The now is either now or never. Either you're gonna keep what you got and just see what's gonna happen next year, or you make a move now. I know this, whatever you can get get it now. Tobias is available. I want to pick up the vice. I know we're not gonna pick up the bias uh baltoonas even though Kesy don't like him. I like him for every agency, We're not gonna pick him
up. I think we're gonna be picking up the bottom of the barrel free agents like we always do. So you're saying we're gonna stay old. I think Brooks. I think they trade. I don't want to see that. If the right trade comes, Brook goes and Middleton. But you know, but it has to be the right trade. I agree. I I'm not saying that. This is the second time we've heard rumors about brook being traded. And here's my thing. I'm not saying we trade our team for no
draft picks because I don't even care at this point. I'm like a Laker fan. I'm like Kesey, you know, Laker. I'm like, do whatever you need to do to win, whatever you need to do to win, now, that's okay. I like, go to State. He likes Dallas. You sure, do whatever you need to do to win. Now, the Bucks just give me the real Yeah, he likes me. Uh no, because he thinks he think he think you gonna we're gonna sign Clay about the bus tickets, go ahead. I'm not worry about the Bucks tickets.
My money long enough to get my own you think just because I something. You remember that next year it's time to pay them. Them tickets going up paid, you're gonna get you gonna get a quick email mm hmmm. Of course, once you sign your deal, you good. You locked in for the same price. Once you signed your deal. Oh don't like the Bucks ain't gonna get us someone they can't once will be no more. Uh you know what, you know what they're gonna get us is gonna go from
sixteen to twenty that ten dollars about you go go to nobobout you. That's already included. That's already part of the package. I know it is. But I'm saying they gonna take that away, like yeah, after some budget cuts. Oh they can't do that. That's a lawsuit. Not really, not really. If you signed it, you sign it. You you signed a deal to be a ticket holder for for three years. But there is a clause that says m not I'm paraphrasing. Goodies or incentives are subject to
change. Heck yeah, now once the season starts. But let's say he signed Clay. You remember back in the day when we signed with the Bucks, they took away our meal car right before diseases. Pure. Yeah. We used to do a lot of stuff. So we was in a fifth row. We was in the fifth row, and our tickets like, oh you see the ticket over come in. We had weekend Yeah we can't package. We had we had weekend package. Twenty two games. You paid eight
hundred and fifty bucks apiece. We had four seats and they was giving us food. We had one hundred and fifty dollars meal voucher. We had parking, and we had two club cambrias per season, all for about eight hundred bucks apiece. Now eight hundred bucks won't buy you ten games. Eight hundred bucks all have you with binoculars? With binoculars for for ten games unless you are up. And I'm not knocking it because I didn't grow up. I didn't grow up privilege. Sure is, I didn't grow up privileged. So
we sat in the dog pound, right, so I get it. But even even uh, think about where we sat in the playoffs though. Tickets, That's what I'm saying. We were paying about. We paid eight hundred dollars a ticket. I remember, don't please don't remind me, Oh God, I remember, Please don't remind me what I'm saying, is fight start
for him now? And I haven't been up there to know this, but from what I hear, even the upper levels, not really, because our upper level now is still lower than with the three and four hundred section were in the Bradley Center. Yeah, but I remember men being way up there. I'm not doing that no more, God forbid. But the cost, it's not a family function anymore. Like if you want, unless you were
going to break the bank, not count your money. But if you wanted to take a family of six and you bought tickets flat out to a Marquee game, the chances of doing that number one is slim because tickets aren't ever on sale like that. But you're paying for goodbird tie you three and four hundred dollars a ticket. So to take a family of six, you might be paying five bands, depending on how close you want to see it.
And if you want to feed them, and let's not talk about their crazy parking, seventy five dollars, one hundred dollars, The kids will souvenirs. That's it. That's it, that's it, shout admiral. That's why I take them one at a time when we go through in the season is one at a time show turn this week, so don't yes, but really see who real quick before we get up out of here. Breaking news Paul George. Paul George is unlikely to return to the Clippers. Seventy six is a
strong front winner to land George and free agency deal. Wow, it was very interesting. Wow. This has been a very entertaining season with an entertaining episode to end the season. It was fun, good good times, good times, good times. So this is your boy by Zeke. He's your boy, Dre, It's your boy, Keith. This is ninety four feet Podcasts. You can catch us on all social media platforms. You can also catch us on all streaming platforms. Ana go over the list. Agree with
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