What's good? Everybody was good after twenty twenty four? What's good? Bro? What's good? Good people? Yo? It's the ninety four feet Podcast. I'm here with my brother Keith. What's good? Yo? And we signed to a one day contract. You know what I'm saying, a one day contract on the ninety four feet podcast. Man, this is my guy Chris. What off everybody? I'm happy to be here. Thank y'all for signing me to that one day contract. I'm I'm coming off the bench like
Lou Williams. I'll be Lou will for a day. What's up? Retire? But hey, Lou Williams was highly regarded as one of the best six men that ever played the game. So you know what I'm saying. You a step over low in my book. But uh, you know, Chris in the building with it, and who knows, perhaps he might get another contract if things don't change. Are out here, I'm out of this. I ain't say nothing no for real. Shout out to our brother Zeke, who is out of the out of the building today. I hope to have
them back next week. Happy New Year, everybody. How was the new year? Man? How was the New year? My brothers I mean we only was seven days in seven days in Well, how did you bring the new year in? Man? How's it? How's the treatment so far? New year is a new year, you know what I mean, new goals. It's time to get started. A lot of milestones this year they achieve. We got three hundred and what is it? Sixty eight days? No, three sixty six? This year we got three sixty six. It's a
leap year. This is lybya That's how I'm trying to figure out what a libya? Yeah, we got three hundred and uh fifty nine days. Let's it, man, three hundred and fifty nine days to go. Let's do it? Good people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ninety four Free Nation. Thanks for sticking with us on our road to one hundred, y'all. Can you believe it? We've been doing this now going
on. This is our fourth year doing this. We'll celebrate episode one hundred and several weeks and we're gonna do some stuff a little later in the year. Uh, nothing big, just yet. But keep a watch, keep it, watch, keep a watch. Let's talk to basketball. But whoever thought, man, I know I'll be doing this four years? I mean, how many times have each of us quit, I mean every times,
it'll be quit. How many times have we called an audible? How many times that we said, you know what, you take the lead, you beat a point guard. Listen, man, let the record show. I don't mind playing shooting guard. I don't need to be charge. I'm just saying I like being the superstar. Well, it's a superstar on the team. Well, as long as you're the number two superstar like Lebron is to m right, as long as you're that superstar. Yeah, in your books,
let's get into it. Listen, y'all, it has been a crazy couple weeks in basketball. The NBA injury report is ridiculous right now. But we're gonna go ahead and get started with the injury report. Go ahead, keys, all right, let's run down the injury report, starting with the Atlanta Hawks. DeAndre Hunter right knee information. He'll be reevaluated in two weeks. I can't really say much about that because you know, the Hawks is on a kind of a slump right now. So I mean, I guess
I'm Wessell Helper brother out the Celtics. Chris Chris snaps porzingis right eye irritation day to day. You know that's lightweight for porzingis right there. You know the nets been him is out back injury, back to being you know, reevaluated in two weeks. The Bulls Alex Caruso neck injury, day to day, and then that ain't nothing to play with man the Calves, Darius Garland jaw injury out. I wonder how long you're gonna be out today? I
think I think January eleventh. He's uh, he's when he's just dealing with an eye injury where he had like a bad eye injury. Nothing long ago. When that last year last year. I and uh, he was out sometime last year. Man, let me get some significant injuries. Evan Mobley knee surgery on his left knee will be evaluate re evaluated in six to eight weeks. And and that's a hopeful. That's a hopeful. Like and after six six eight weeks is like minimum, and and and and that's that's a
knee surgery, bro, Like that is a knee surgery. Not not a risk, not even a hand or finger. We're talking about your need. Think the part of your body that you probably use most for the NBA. He'll be a I mean, I guess that what do you call it? Trade they're gonna go through no time soon. Then, well that's that. That's that young nucleus the Cavs have with Darius Garland and Evan Mobley. Both of them were out, but they still maintain it. I heard they had
what you call it on the market. Who Garrett, I mean not Garrett. What's the big man? Oh Garrett? Yeah, Jared jack Jared Jackson, Jackson Jackson jack Okay, Jared Jackson, Jared jack I heard he was on the trader Larren Jackson. Jared Jackson was on Really he was on the trade block. But I'm pretty sure they're gonna take that off, the offer off the table. Well, because you gotta remember man and let you get too off topic Cleveland. No, you're good. No, that's what we
do here. The first twenty minutes. We never pay attention. Usually we start to show argue when talking about sneakers or something. But it's a new year. We're trying to do some You know, when you think about the Cleveland Cavaliers, man, they are fully aware that my man's PG what's his name, our point guard, Donovan Mitchell. They are very much aware that he is gone after this season, no doubt. They are very much aware
of that. So they have to do whatever they can to either build around our big or or find some assets to help build for the future, because once Donovan Mitchell leaves, Cleveland will experience those lebron those post lebron ars. I'm telling you they are better off getting their trade for him. That's before it's too late and he leaves nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We also got the MAVs with Luca questionable whether Acho injury is listen as
day to day. The MAVs are without six other players do the injuries. That's so think about that. That's half their roster. That's half their roster. Yeah, fourteen fifteen. I think it's twelve to fourteen. I don't know how many of those are active. But if you take seven players away from the MAVs, man might the forfeit that game. They might be on the brinks of a tank in this season with that type of stuff going on. The Warriors are without Chris Paul per usual, Jonathan Kamingo, and Gary
Payton. A third per usual Chris Paul. It just got announced right before we came in. He's gonna be out about six to eight weeks himself. Well, what he just had a surgery. He just had a major surgery on it was either his hand, his wrists or his arm. And he is going to be out a significant amount of time. And he has a fact fracture in his left hand, so he has surgery. So he is going to be out for I believe they said, you know, six eight
weeks as well, so Chris paul Man. But the Warriors, we'll talk about it later. We don't tank time. The tank time for quite a few times, to be honest. The Rockets, Dylan Brooks Torso injury. How do you get that in basketball? I don't want to judge, but how do you get a Torso injury in basketball going up for a rebound? Yeah? I don't know Dyl Brooks, so I don't know. I don't know what he did. He probably tried to take a file on somebody exactly
on Dylan. Shout out to Dylan Brooks. No shoutouts here where they didn't need them last night. The clearly the Lakers are without Anthony Davis, per usual, D'Angelo Russell, Rule Hatamur, and Gabe Vincent, who hasn't played all season. He's sixty. The Memphis Grizzly is our wild John Moran is questionable for tonight's game, while Memphis has five other players out as well,
so they are six down. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Zion Williams is day to day, Joel Embiid is day to day, Robert Coverton is day to day, Tobias Harris is day to day, Eric Gordon is day to day, Boy Boyle is day to day, Kevin Durant is day to day, and DeAndre a Ten is day today. Is there anybody playing in the NBA, That's what I'm saying, is anybody want to show up? Does anybody want to do they get? Do they get PTO? Well,
you know they don't get PTO? But if they are. What I love about the new NBA rule is if you don't play a certain amount of games, injury or not, you're not eligible for bonuses. You're not eligible for those end season awards. So for all these players that are out and listed as day to day, if it's a real injury, be injury right,
sit down, get healthy, get well. But if you're talking about I'm just not playing because I don't want to play, yeah, come on, man, this list, and I'm gonna tell you, when I was compiling this injury report, shout out to Z who normally does this. It's a pain in the butt because literally every team had five to six players By the time I got down to the Memphis Grizzlies, I said, you know what, other notable names because we would have been twenty minutes on a freaking
injury report. The NBA as much money as they make, and I know we don't like to use the word bums. He got a lot of bombs, bro, because I look at the names, like who, you know, what's your favorite line? Who? Andre? Who? Like Bruh. I didn't even know boy or Boyer even get minutes Boyle. In fact, Shaq has been making an argument that he's just as good as Victor waight Old. I think I saw that argument. I saw that, and I said
that they're just saying he's in the wrong situation. He's in the wrong situation and he doesn't have the hype. Yep, he doesn't have the high I don't know we're talking about minute bows, the late minute bows. Yes, so man, well let's die intil I watched the highlights of him and their game is very similar. And people keep saying, I've never seen a seven
foot of dude. What when Namaa is doing I watched some of Boyle Boyer things after I've seen Shaq's interview, and he's doing the exact same things. Yeah, he was actually a little bit more athletic if you asked me. When it came down to his abilities. He just was on some rough teams and and wrong and the wrong plays, wrong time, That's how I put it. Yeah, that really does it. When you're in a bad situation or not, I don't even know if I want to say bad situation.
When you're in a situation that does not help you grow, you're not gonna shine. People are not gonna really see how you are and see what you can do. So once you hit that that area, you get on that team that you know may run, you know you may be a runner that running team, and you can really show what you have, that's when people start seeing. So yeah, I agree with that ball ball. I think he is uh. I think he's pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah, listen
got the hype. Though he got the hype, but he also got the tie. He got the talent. Man look like a baby Okay, listen, no, no, no, let's call it what it is. He made. He had several highlights on Yanni's all right, made him look like a baby, posted him and crossed him twice. You gotta give him credit. It happened. It happened, We watched it, We've seen it. Yan's even sung the man's praises. But let's save that for Bucks Talk around
time. I can't wait for Bucks Talk shoot around. Draymon Green has returned from suspension. Oh boy, do we think Draymond has served enough time? Or is the NBA playing around early with his return? Now, for everyone that doesn't know, Draymond has had terrible behavior. He's done a lot of crazy stuff. But I think what finally got him suspended with him choking out the choke coup didn't get him suspended, Yes, oh yeah, the issues
that he had with that uh, with with that player. So he served twelve games all in all, supposedly went to therapy, He got some counseling. Uh. What is next for Draymond Green? And does the time fit the crime? Trade? Trade? Trade plus trade equals trade, give him a trade? Got a trade? You know what I thinking about this? And I have to agree. Excuse me, let me clear my throat. I have to agree. I think they brought him back early so that he
could play a little bit. Teams can see him, they already know what he brings, and then the Warriors can package a deal, they can get him up out of here. I think it's done for him. I think he's done with the Warriors. I think they're trying to get rid of him. They're trying to get what they can and you know, let him play a little bit, get back in the flow, and then ship them up out of here at the trade deadline, before the trade that line whatever.
I agree, you know, I disagree because the Golden State Warriors have shown that they are very loyal to Draymond Green. They are very loyal Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Steve Kurr, very loyal to Draymond Green. I think, however, if you look at a timeline of Draymond's action starting with Jordan Poole, right, and it keeps going, you dating back to Lebron when he kicked him in the mid section. But now he's a Bron mid section
lover. But what ever happens there, happens Draymond Green is is the dog that you want on your team, while his actions sometimes are over the top. If the Warriors trade Draymond, they don't have a dog, right. The Warriors are almost soft without Draymond Green. So I don't know that the
Golden State Warriors plan on trade and Draymond. But what I will say, a twelve game suspension for assault right for assault of multiple players, and John Morant got twenty five for carrying a gun in which he probably had the right to do. Don't get me wrong, I still think it was a dumb thing to do. His punishment certainly fit the crime. But to bring a person back twelve games and say you're resurrected, you're healed, we believe you
now, we know that you're a change man. It takes life cycles of therapy sometimes for people to change, right. It takes life cycles for you to understand other than him missing a paycheck, We're gonna really you have to watch a couple of these games to see if it's a true Draymond. But that's where I go to the fact of what Chris said, like they're going to trade him. They only brought him back so they can get him off
the books. And get that money back. They already know his actions should be automatic done for the season because because he's done it for so long. I mean, Draymond got a history. Boy, that brother got a history of putting his hands on people like no other. And I think the Warriors are done with him. I think the Warriors dynasty is done with I think the Warriors have realized it is time to move on and bring in something else
new. Draymond and Wiggins are on their way out the door. And Wiggins problem is he hasn't psychologically got over whatever that that event that happened off the court person but personally whatever happened in that situation, he ain't been the same since. So I got a feeling that Wiggins is on his way out and Draymond is on his way out, and Clay won't return next year, and they're gonna build some more players in to play around Steph in that young core
that they got. So if dray Mind's behavior doesn't change what happens next, we're not just talking to Warriors NBA. I'm of the opinion that the NBA, although they only gave him a pat on the hand with this twelve game dray Min's behavior is on band level. Band like, if this behavior continues and he doesn't approve, I can see the NBA showing him the door.
But that's that's why the Warriors are the only team that could take that gamble to let him play a few games and prove itself so that they can bring him back so that they can trade him. Because other than that, what do you need him? Because I mean, he's not gonna make that big of a difference where they're gonna win that many more games. The Warriors suck
today, they suck tomorrow, and they're gonna suck next week. The Warriors are that's how they do Lebron. So that's so get off my second favorite team. You don't have to be you have to you have to make it there. But I'm just saying now, Steph is filling the raft of playing with a bunch of scrubs and or a bunch of players who are just role players, and you don't have that core like they had. They're wearing Steph out. Steph look exhausted at the end of games. It is time,
you know, to bring in some younger, more active players. Tremont is older too, so it's time for like the Kamingas and the little young guard they got. I can't think of his name at the moment. Left handed, he's pretty decent too. So So with that said though, there's also reports coming out since we're talking Warriors that a lot of them are upset with Steve Kerr with the minutes. They're upset with the minutes that they're getting.
So, you know, we talked about Golden State dynasty being over. When do they say, Okay, Steve, it worked while it worked, but now it's time for you to move on. So is Steve Kerr the problem in Golden State or is it talent? It's Steve curR the problem. I mean, have you all heard the rumors the reports about the players are being
upset, you know, not as bad as the Lakers. Like the Laker problems, which we'll get to. Their agents are called on the front office, like what the heck is Darvin Ham doing with which we'll get into in a little bit. But is Steve Kerr? Is it time for him in the Golden State Warriors to go their separate ways? Go ahead, Chris, I think so. I think, all right, look really quickly, I don't want to go too far back. But Dre, you just mentioned every team needs a dog. Yeah, to all my pitt fans, I love
Yeah, I love pits. But when it starts to get pit level and you know that you can't control the what do they do. I'm not saying in this situation, you know you got to get rid of you might have to get rid of Draymond. I think ban level. I think next if he gets traded or if he comes back and does whatever again, he'll get a year, I think, and they'll stick with that year, and then after that they'll reevaluate some things, I think, and then the band comes.
Now moving over to Steve Kerr, I think Steve Kerr, I don't know does he really coach? I think that was some of the things, like, he doesn't coach, He sits back. He has a lot of great things to say after the games. I think it's time for for yeah, something new fresh blood. He's doing that he has that he thinks he's Phil Jackson where he can sit there long enough and it'll correct itself. But he doesn't have that ability now that he doesn't have the talent that he had
for the last six seven years. So now what I'm saying healthy young, Clay young, Dre young, Steph. You know what I'm saying, y, you know what I'm saying young KD because KD was at what four years ago? Four years ago is a big difference in a career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know one of the things I think about Steve Kerr maan, if you even look at sometimes arrogance is a downfall of a person. Right where we grew up in church and we're taught pride brings
a man down low. I think Steve Kerr has spent too much time on the sidelines being the popular coach or the coach would swag, right, because you saw Andre Igudala coaching on the sidelines, right, You saw Steph in his player's ear. So as long as Steph Curry is there, Steve curR is untouchable. I personally believe that. I don't know that. I don't want to say that Steve Kerr has lost the locker room because if Steve Kerr was a black coach, let's let's take it there, you know, and
and and we're not a racist podcast, we love everybody. But if if if Steve Kerr, Let'm not even say a black coach, if Steve Kerr was any other coach, and that Jordan Poole footage would have leaked. What if the he said he lost the locker room. We're firing the coach because the coach let that happen. Steve Kerk no, no controlling that none, no ownership. If that was agent Griffin, what will happen. Oh, he'd been out of there quickly he be after the leak half an hour.
That was Agen Griffin. How fast well Egend Griffin had been out of that organization. That's what I'm saying. And so Steve Kurk does not take ownership of some of the actions of his players. And because we would have been all over Griff he lost the locker room, Griffin gotta go like Griff fought Terry Stotts. So they say, luckily there's no footage out there. Luckily there's no footage. But the rumor Mills said him and Terry Stott got into
it because Terry Stott called over the players. Uh, the coach called for a huddle, but Terry Stott stayed back to talk to some of the veteran players, and Griffin felt disrespected that you're not respecting me as a head coach. So they got into some words and that's what caused the breakup. Now,
if had that been physical, Griffin would have been out. I say that to say I think in Golden State Warrior land, the issues with Draymond, the reason that Golden State has continually to deal with them is because Draymond has a protector known to Steve Kirk. Steve Kerr protects Draymond, He protects his players, and I believe in the in the Golden State Warriors landscape, Steve Kurr is untouchable. I'm just I hear you. I hear you, Dre. I'm just wondering. So so you're saying, as long as Draymond
is there is around, Steve Kerr is good to go. I'm just kind of wondering because I don't I don't know Steve nash got his walking papers with the with Brooklyn. He should have never had it though he should have never had a but awesome Steve kurt That. I mean, Steve nashan have the resume that that Kerr got behind him to back him up a little bit. You know what I'm saying. Those those four championships back you up a long way as compared to Steve Nash coming in and he got nothing. But I
can bring up a name, Mark Jackson. That's all I'm gonna say. So, Mark Jackson. Pissed off the wrong people, man, Mark Mark Jackson, Mark Jackson. If he goes back and he repents to doctor Jerry West and he admits that he was wrong for putting him out of practice and and taking that hard tone with doctor Jerry West, all will be forgiven. See and in the landscape of Hollywood, just like Milwaukee, a little bit, just like kind of no right, just like kind of nonprofit tone.
We got insurance here, man, we got a death so close to my elbow it might be broken. Was abotaged What's Up Injury podcast? And would have just would have torn rotator in his elbow. It's just going. But you know, Mark Jackson, you know, in my opinion, I think we give him too much credit for being a good coach, and we give him way too much credit. I ain't bring Mark Jackson, he'd give him way too much credit. Yes, he helped Golden State, but so did
Phil Collins help the Bulls. But Phil, I'm sorry a duck Collins. Phil Collins, one of the greatest singers of all time, Souse, I confuse that Phil Jackson is the one that delivered the rings. Right. Rudy tom Janovich had the Lakers, Okay, Byron Scott had the Lakers and got the death stare from Kobe and was gone the next day. Phil Jackson brought the rings. So coaching coaching matters. Jordan didn't deliver those rings until Phil
Jackson showed him how to master the triangle offense. Coaching matters, right. Steve Kirk Klay Thompson didn't learn how to play off the ball into Steve Kirk taught them that. So let's not act like Steve Kirk didn't bring the level of coaching to the Golden State Warriors to help them win those four titles. Now they were fouled for going out and getting kd after they okay, file for going there, and then they have a winning record before the Steve Kirk
came in there, they had a playoff record. They had forty four and in thirty eight and forty six and something I'm paraphrasing, But they weren't considered dangerous until Steve kirricane and they continue to build their team to the draft that's real. So you feel I said what I said, said what I said? Moving on? Whoop, brace yourself, America, don't even do it. Don't be that guy today. The Los Angeles Lakers have lost ten games
and only won four since the end season tournament. Are the Los Angeles Lakers defenders or pretenders? Reports also indicate that Darvinham is at odds with his players, and agents are calling for road agents are calling the office. What the heck is he doing? My clients are not happy. This is a two part hold up a second. This is a two part Lakers question. What do we make up the Los Angeles Lakers? Because once they hung that banner, it's like the Lakers quit and I'm gonna go ahead, no, let
our guess. All I want to say about the Lakers is yeah, that the end season tournament championship. Okay, cool? Yeah, Ever since then, I don't know what happened. They just I don't know, the bottom dropped out and it just seems like that was their championship. Lebron is still going hard doing this thing, but I don't know. They're missing a D again. Gets hurt a lot. I know that was their chance. Yeah, hotchi Morow is hurt, like a lot of their players are hurt.
Borre, he's hurt. I don't know. I just don't see. I don't see much out of the Lakers. They don't scare anyone. They don't have a dog. I don't think. I just I don't know a d and Lebron together. I don't know how much longer we can talk about that. You know, Darvin Ham, if Darvin Ham would have waited one year, he could have been the Bucks coach one or two years, he could have been the Bucks next coach. I saw what was happening. He left,
did this thing over there. He's doing this thing with the Lakers. But I don't know he's if he lost the locker room in LA. That's just tough for me to imagine. I mean, I know it's out there, but he just seems to me like he's a hard nose. He just wants the best for us players. He gets at you if you're not, you know, giving it your all. If they don't like that, then okay, let's package your deal for some of these you know, some of these cats and get them up out of here. I don't know. That's
how I feel. The Lakers don't have a lot of assets. Though the Lakers don't have a lot of assets, the Los Angeles Lakers have traded their whole future. They've traded the whole future. They have nothing. There is nothing attractive to the Lakers, not even Anthony Davis, not even Lebron James. Because the only thing that makes Lebron attractive is the fact that you might
get Ronnie James. So Lebron can still contribute to a team. Yes, but there are not people lining up to trade for Anthony Davis because he's too inconsistent. Fact, you've said that, you you blame Anthony Davis more, do you blame Lebron? Okay, first off, since you want to go there, let's get on these Lakers. First off, they are pretenders. I'm gonna go there, Okay, the Lakers on record, Keyzy said, what the Lakers are pretenders. Lebron and ad have been pretty consistent this year.
They have not missed a lot of games this year. So you cannot blame them this year and I'm not going to blame them this year. Go ahead, go ahead. They got up, they got a lot of players. A d and Lebron have to have shooters right in order to be successful. They got a lot of players who are inconsistent shooters. That is where their woes come in. So now you got he played twenty eight minutes,
but he only scored two points. I'm sitting on the bench and I can't get those minutes, some of the minutes to try to bring us a couple more buckets here and there. So then that's where Darvin ham is having his issues with his rotations because he's given players who ain't producing too many minutes. So where was the point where this happened? Because they won that end season
title and then they've been doing it all season. They just got lucky for a few games nine and oh they didn't lose one game in in season tournament. I just said they got But that's what the that's Lebron's wheel haul. Tournaments, that it's his wheelhaul. That's where he's playoffs, that's where he's he is the most dominant when it comes down to big games, he's dominant. But if he don't have a supporting cast, and it just so happens
some cam Reddish had a good tournament, Ruey had a decent tournament. One game, So you each player had a decent game in the tournament, so that's what helped him with Lebron's ad played really well too, though I can't lie, but he hasn't been injured as much as he normally is the Lakers and I watched the guil Arena and he said it perfect. Lebron need to get a garbage bag, take it in the locker room and put all those trash players in that bag and take them out so Lebron gets a pass,
is what you're saying. Lebron hasn't change. He hasn't changed in twenty one year years, as you've noticed. If you don't put the right stuff around him, they're not going to succeed. It's just it's just playing and simple. If he did make a comment to say his son could play for the Lakers now, they probably could right now, he probably could with the way they play. You got what's the dude name? No, the other dude with the dark can do with the dreadge toyon Prince taking eleven threes a game?
How in in the h E double hockey stick is Torrian Prince taking eleven threes? Do you see why some players might be getting upset if Torrian Prince is taking eleven threes, but he's averaging like four points a game. What's Austin Reeves doing? Like, wasn't he a man? He was Austin He's doing this thing. He's he's it's Darvin Ham's fault because he put him on the bench, tried to make him like their their something to come off the bench. You're six man. Yeah, you paid him all that money to
come off the bench. No, you paid him to be in that starting lineup with Lebron and a d. They fit together. Those three work together. You just got to figure out those other two that go along with them. Yeah, and and D'Angelo Russell was not consistent. Yeah, oh well he's he's the most he's the most untradable player in the NBA right now, in my opinion, with star status, right he's the most untradeable player in
the NBA besides maybe Dremond and James Harden. But the Los Angeles Lakers for me, but if you can find a trade for James, you can find a trade for Russell. I'm gonna be honest with you. To me, the Lakers were only after winning the end season tournament. They celebrated like it was a title they brought in Champagne. They raised a banner. I get it. I was okay with it until they went ten lost ten games after that to some bums, to some scrubs. The Los Angeles Lakers not only
are they pretenders, they are barely a playing team. There is no one right now of the top six in the Western Conference that I have the Lakers beating in a seven game series. They can't beat Minnesota in the seven games series. Minnesota is too quick. You're too fast now with those too big bigs Minnesota too. I said what I said, Okay, the Oklahoma City Thunder with them, dog the Lakers. The Nuggets have already done it. It's a repeat of last year. The Clippers hit her miss, hit her
miss. That might be the best matchup for the Lakers. The Kings have already shown that they can own the Lakers in Dallas might be hit or missed. Right now, the Lakers have fallen out of play in tournament. We're getting ready to hit the half season mark, and the Lakers have to compete to try to even get in play in now. Because if you're losing games consistently to teams, you should beat what is that gonna happen when you start playing contending teams? The Bucks, the Nuggets, right, the Suns,
the Clippers. So right now, the Los Angeles Lakers, to me, they let that team just do whatever they wanted to do. They celebrated way too early, and now they're feeling the faults of this. Now they're feeling the faults of this. And so the Los Angeles Lakers, not only are they pretenders, they better step up so they can become a playoff team. But let's get this straight though, before you before you count them all the way out, they caught them all the way I'm just saying, before you
count them all the way out. They didn't lose to some scrub. They to a Memphis Grizzlies with a hot John Morant. But go ahead. They lost. It's fox, But since John came back, they ain't been on that losing street. He's one player, but go ahead, John Renn is a lot dude. Uh. They lost to the Heat. They're not horrible. Jimmy Butler didn't play. Next, they lost to the Pelicans. No, Repelicans are not bombs. Okay, what are they standings? Right now? You're six? Wis has been in and out. But okay, I
don't mind that one. They lost to the t Wolves. Okay, but you said they can beat them. They only lost by two. I lost as the loss. A loss is a loss, Okay, they just they beat the Hornets before that team they're supposed to beat. Yeah, they lost to the Celtics the game before that, the team they're supposed to lose. They beat the Thunder Okay. They lost to the t Wolves okay twice not yeah, Okay, So here's to say they ain't lost to some real life
people they shouldn't be losing to, and they're not getting blown out. They just ain't closing out games, can't hit shots. So that's what it boils down to. It's time that trade deadline is too close. It's time for people to start making moves. But what does Chris No, I was just gonna say, Drake, didn't you say that they have no trade assets? None at all? None? So what do they do like if they don't start with you know, I can't see I don't know if I can see
Lebron. I mean, it's happened before, but not making the playoffs, just looking this bad, the whole team just being down and out that bad last year. Remember didn't they make the playoffs? Though? They because they made a late season run after they had the trade before the trade deadline. See then they okay, but with no trade assets, that might not happen
this year. It's not going you know, it's not going to the Lakers are a first round drive pick into what what was it, He's like twenty twenty nine or something like that because they traded for Russell Westbrook or some other stupid stuff. You know, the Lakers don't have a first round drift pick for years. I don't believe someone have to fact check me, t if you're watching dropping the chat when the Lakers' next first round drive pick is.
But let me tell you something. Nine is that it no twenty twenty seven, brun that's four years away. That's four years away. And Lebron you're not trading him. Let's be for real. And Anthony Davis, you're not trading him. D'Angelo Russell is not a trade asset. He's tradable though, he's not an asset. Though. No one's calling the Lakers about D'Angelo Russell. Okay, the Lakers are calling teams about D'Angelo Russell. Hey, do
you want Russell? Do you want Russell? Russell makes eighteen million dollars and puts up What is it with people with the last name Russell and putting up bricks? Because that is what D'Angelo Russell does. He puts up bricks. He was sad for the start of the season. I don't know what happened. Yeah, he has always been inconsistent. Even when playing with Minnesota, he has always put up bricks. But that's why they brought in gave Vincent
and he hasn't even played. That's why the Lakers got rid of him the first time to attract Lebron because you were putting up bricks. And he came back to the Lakers and now he's putting up more bricks. If you look at his shooting percentage, it is got awful. The Los Angeles Lakers have no trade assets. They do who reeves he's valuable, very valuable. Austin reeves he's valuable. And I was gonna say, but why would you trade him because he's like he could be like the future. I mean, I
know, he's a nice he's a nice roll starter. He's a nice roll starter. He's not a franchise. No, he's not tagged, not at all. What you think they can get for him, I mean you can get you can get some decent for for Reeves. Puts In and Russell in a deal. You can get a nice deal, okay. Or you put Max Christie, Christy and Russell in a deal because he's young and he got a lot of potential. So the Lakers have a couple of trade options. It's just a point of which direction do you want to go? As la
Max Christie. No relation reminds me of Doug Christie for some reason. I don't know. I'm just that's just off the record. I don't know why I said no. I think I looked it up and it said it's no relation. But yeah, he kind of reminds me of that bigger guard six ' five and just you know, just does a few things here and that. So let me ask you this, what do we make of players being at odds with Darvin Ham and agents calling the front office allegedly to complain about
Darvin Ham. Is that overstepping the line? Is that going too far? Or is Darvin Ham screwing up the Lakers franchise that much? Because I make no mistakes about it. Darvin Ham is no Steve Kerr. Darvin Ham is no Greg Popovich. And one call from Lebron? What does the David Grooper say? One call? That's all? One call from Lebron. The Darvin Ham experience is over. And don't let these be a clutch sports players. I don't know if they I don't know who the agent are, but don't
let these be Team Lebron players calling the front office. What do we make of players now basically tattle telling and going above the coach's head going to the front office. What do you make of that? That's been going on for a while. This ain't that first rodeo? Is Darvin wrong? Here? Do the Lakers need to make a coaching change? Is he part of the problem? Is he part of the problem when the Lakers are four and ten or four and fourteen over the last couple of weeks? Is he part of
the problem? Has he lost the locker room? Has he lost the ability to leave the Lakers? All of these role players that can't shoot? Is the problem? Every time I think about it? And I've seen that Torrian Punch took eleven threes in a game I couldn't believe it. That's tough. Yeah, I can get he's a three and D guy, but eleven, that's tough to come back for it. And you only scored two points that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have to say
that how far are we from that end season in season tournament? How far are we from that? Uh? In season tournament ended around December ninth and eleventh, so we're about a month about a month. It was all good a week ago, you know what I'm saying. It was all good when they were winning and doing that. I think some the injury bug kind of
got to them a little bit. Darkenham got them into the playoffs last year, they won the nd season tournament this year, and now, you know a little bit a few weeks down the line, everyone's now hurt, you know, calling their their their agents to call. You know, I'm not getting my playing time. Whatever injuries play apart. But I don't think you can turn your back on Darvin Ham yet. I think you gotta give him
some more time, at least at the end of the season. Then we'll see what happens the rest of the way from this point, and then after that we can decide what they need to do. They already made their bed, like you said earlier, Dre, they made their bed with some of the trades that they had. You know, they have nothing to give anymore. The all these people that they brought in, they're there. Nine shooters, that's them. That was they call. So I think you stick with
Darvin Ham. I think he's a good coach from what I've seen when he was here with the Bugs assistant coach and stuff like that. But you know, maybe it is him, but I think you need to give him some more time. Yeah, I don't. I don't like the players. And I've always said this on this podcast for the past four years. Players get an escape, coaches get a pat on their hand and they're out the door. Right. They're always held to a higher standard, And I get it.
Darvin Ham. For me, you can't overlook it. He took a play in tournament Lakers to the conference finals. They got sweat, right. He took a hobbled Lakers to the n season tournament to win the championship. It's a championship, whether we like it or not, it's a championship, right, he took them. Now, if you don't like your minutes, then asked to go somewhere else. There's a reason why Darvin Ham is trying
things out. Well, what I will say, Darvin four and fourteen, since the play into tournament is not okay, and you better fix it fast. You better fix it two weeks because Lebron James has a year or two maybe left to play. And if he goes down on this tanking or sinking lakership, Darvin's going to go down because Lebron James, unless he he's injured. Lebron doesn't have losing seasons. He doesn't have losing seasons. He has
championship seasons. He has finals appearances, he has conference finals appearances. And you're losing games and players are starting to complain about minutes that they can't talk to you. That is the first sign of a lost locker room when your agents are calling. But you know why that is. I don't Darvin Ham. Don't play no games, y'all. No. He he is like the Tasmanian devil. He will tear stuff off the walls. I'm just gonna say it like that. And I can feel that you can be intimidated by a
coach who has a dominant personality like Darvin Ham. You wouldn't feel comfortable going to ask for a minute because you don't know what it's gonna outcome. Gonna be Yeah, because Darvin Ham ain't gonna take no mess. Yeah. At the same time, but at the same time, dovern Ham got to do something about this rotation? Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. It's horrible. It's bad. It's almost like chick ag League team. The Lakers are horrible to watch, especially if Lebron is not playing right. The Lakers are
horrible to watch. And you know, Lakers have old money, right, they have old fans. The old Laker money ain't gonna stand for that. Jenny Buss has already made a statement that they stand behind Darvin Ham, that she's standing behind him. But we've also heard Mike Dundley v say Jordan Pool's a part of this team and he was out the door of what two days later. So it's good for now, but Darvin better changing He better change it quickly. Trade rumors are going crazy right now. One of the biggest
things on the market is Pascal Sayakam. The two teams that are most interested are the Detroit Pistons and the Indiana Pacers. What is his trade value? In which team needs him most? Who would you like to see him traded to? First of all, I admit I didn't know his value was that high. I did I know Sayakam people were breaking the bank for Pascal Sayaka. What is his trade value? You know why he's so high. He's sixteen, he can handle the ball, He's an elite defender, and if
you really need him to, he can score. What's his season stats? Man? Put pull up his season staff, Chris? What you think man about Sayakam and his value? And in which team? You know what? I like Saakam. I think that the Golden State Warriors if they get him to go with Steph, to go with Clay, I think you can. I mean, I would try to get I'm I'm gonna stay on it. I would try to get Draymond up out of here for Saokam. Draymond maybe, And what we say earlier, Wiggins, you know what, I don't
know. I don't know if that can happen, but should should we try that? But I would like to see him with the Warriors. I don't like him to see him with Steph. Yeah, and Clay. So he wasn't linked to the Warriors yet, but he could be. That's a good that's a good analogy when I looked it up. Right now, the Kings were the number one team, but they dropped out because they said Toronto wants too much, uh for him. So now it's it's the Pacers and the
Pistons. So for me, no one wants to go to the Pistons right now. You send that man to Detroit, you would kill his career. You would kill his career if you send him where to Detroit? Yeah, he's done, you give me. Yeah, he returned. Could you see what happened? Was to call it? When he went there? Who's at Blake? Oh man? Oh man? Yeah, think about it was Blake still had a couple of years left for him, but he wanted Detroit and in roady math. That's it. So if you want to kill the man's
career, then you send him to Detroit. The Detroit Pistons are three and thirty two, right, three and thirty two already eliminated from playoff contention, Wow, already, Like NBA never does it that early. They're already eliminated from playoff. They're not, but they're at point eighty six. Is averaging twenty two, six and five. Yeah, the them some decent numbers.
I like him with the Detroit I'm sorrying with the Indiana Pacers. And I'm gonna tell you right now, I said at the beginning of the season, and I'm eating my words now, I said, ain't nobody worried about the Indiana Pacers. If you add say I come to the Pacers, the Pacers are a problem. Yeah, the Pacers are already a problem. I can admit to it. Now. Halliburton is a problem. He's a pest, but he's a problem. For who are you giving up if I'm the Pacers.
When you look at right now that you are having a good run, that you are beating one of the favorites to go to the NBA Finals, and you're not just beating them, you're beating them in a in a dynamic fashion. You feeld now when you give up some of those future assets? Right? So, if I'm the Pacers, I would look at some draft picks. I would look at some of those role players that are not like super valuable to your team. But adding say I come to Indiana, I
believe would make them a favorite in the Eastern confege. But you got to give up something to get him, because he ain't gonna just said that, but but you gotta give up something, not not to give up a little something. You gotta give up something. Yeah, So who are you going to give up? If you're Pacers, is the question? Buddy healed, you got it. They've been trying to give him up for a month, so that's okay. But but if you're Toronto, are you gonna take Buddy?
I would if say I come once, I absolutely I'm gonna take buddies. Buddies is a is A is a shooter and Toronto needs help scoring they need a shooter. He should, but he doesn't shoot a high efficiency. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you are known, if you're going to lose, sayakam anyway, you have to try to get something before you get nothing, right, you have to try to get something. And so if you think about who the Pacers trade assets are, obviously it's not
Halliburton, right. He is their superstar, he is the future. He is there Reggie Miller of the nineties. He is their guy in the order to keep him happy and to keep him not considering other teams you have to look at upbreaking a piece in so you can look at another name that's on the table, and people may not like it. But if i'm the Pacers, I'm adding Miles Turner, Miles Turner and Buddy Hill give me, say I come and give me a future draft pick. Can we call it even?
Oh? And we call it even? Because who would you rather have playing next to Halliburton, Miles Turner or SAA. I'm taking SAA. I'm taking Miles Turner. Chris with your commentary, I'm gonna have to keep Miles Turner. I'm thinking of giving up someone like I don't know, like Obi Topping, and possibly I'll give up topping it and Hide. I'll give up Toppling and Buddy. But to give up Turner, that's a lot, is
not to replace. That's a lot. Turner does a lot in their victories and him being able to stretch the floor as a five, it's big for Halibert. He makes it easy for Halliburt because they're picking roll it's through them. That's a good point. Think about it, because if you help out on Hallibert, either Turner's going to slash because he can finish at the rim or he's gonna pop and he's gonna shoot it and he shoots at a high clip from the three. Or if you drop and you and you take Turner
and you and you get Hallibert that space, he'll shoot it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you're not letting go of Miles. I'm keeping Miles Turner. I gotta keep him. He's the big man, he's the center, and you know he's gonna do everything that Queas just said. You know so. But but if you think about adding Sayakam and you get rich Okay, say they pulled it off and you have Sayakam, you have Turner and Hallibert. Now you got a problem because Turner and Sayakam sort of play the
same position, power forward center. No, you put you put Siakim at the four, you put Turner at the five. And you don't believe none of their stats are impacted by playing on the same team, the two of them. Yes, No, how keys, how what do you mean they're the same player? Essentially, I'm gonna say they're the same player, the only different squad. No. I think that someone is going to some scoring is gonna drop off for one of them, whether it's Siakam, whether it's
Turner or Halliburton. I mean, you know, it's not gonna be as fluid anymore with those three. If those three were there, I think it wouldn't be It would be kind of like a clogged up lane. Then they would go from being small too. Now you got a problem. The problem is what people don't understand is has never been a player who needed a play call for him. Seacam has never been the player who offense was built around. Siakim just the type of player who fits in where he fits in.
He doesn't have a problem with that. That's why he has stats across the board. Think about it. And he can shoot from the three. He's not great, but he can shoot it. He also can handle the ball and take some pressure off of Halliburn at points. You know what I mean, when haliber goes to the bench, So they got some young players to go along with that. If say, I can want to get his money when Halliberg goes to the bench, or Turner goes to the bench, or
the vice versa. When he goes to the bench, the other players step up. It would make Indiana more dangerous if you brought him in there. But I don't see Indiana getting him, and I I like Hallibert, but I think the hype is gonna be gonna die down in a minute. I think the hype is gonna die down in a minute. I like him, but I just don't think he as good as everybody making him seem to be. So you think he's going to it's gonna catch up with him, and
you know he's because he's because my only thing is he's not flashy. He's not lightning quick. That's that's that set shot ain't gonna continue going down for him. It ain't gonna in that set shot. He so slow. It is though at some point they're going to figure it out. Sometimes they take him a season to to figure out a player and then they just fall off the map. But we shall see if he can, if he can continue to do what he do. I commend it, but I just don't see
it. He's better than I thought. Well he's he's doing better than like you said, Like I said, he doing better than I expected him to do. And I'm just I don't see it being a longevity thing. I see it being a temporary thing. To me, he is a thrown in Giannis aside that's for sure. He's under He gets undery on his skin, so he's he's accomplished that. So it'll be a test to see what happens. We say, come but uh. Moving on, Orlando Magic have announced
that they are playing to retire Shaquille o'news jersey. I should have been did that? Is Shaquille O'Neill deserving of a jersey retirement of the Magic? Chris go ahead, bro Absolutely so the Magic. That seption of the Magic was at eighty nine. Shaquille came in ninety two, right before Shaq got there. The big attraction was Disneyland or Disney World. My bad Shaq came and for those four years he was in Orlando playoff team or he took him to
the finals in ninety five All Stars beat the Book. Yes, yes, took him to the finals, I think, averaging what twenty seven a game, twelve rebounds? Like he brought all the numbers, He brought the he brought the fans out to Orlando. Before he got there, wasn't really you know much going on there. Yes, you you It is right to retire this man's number. Superman should be retired in Orlando thirty two. So here here's my take before keys goes on. I am very selfish when it comes
to retirements, very selfish. We had a show uh asking about ray Allen's retirement in Milwaukee. I said, the Bucks owe him nothing. He did nothing for us. He didn't win a title. He he had three point contests. We almost went to the finals, but we didn't win anything. We won some games. Okay, no one's ever sat down. Man. Do you remember that game ray Allen shot the three and took us to the finals to face Philly. But they do, say, you remember when ray
Allen hit the three to help Miami he win the championship. They're Orlando Magic, Oh Shaquille O'Neil nothing. They should not retire that jersey. However, I see why they are. He's deserving. But if they didn't do it, people shouldn't be upset about it because he left. He left them hanging, y'all know that's my punchline. I hate when people leave people hanging.
He left them hanging. I remember, I said, because it's a small world, but I remember someone in the business world left me hanging and came back and thought everything was gonna be okay. I'm like, oh, we'll show love. You know what I'm saying, We'll drop up. But no, you left me hanging. I'm not going back, you know what I'm saying. Same with the Orlando Magic. He left them hanging. He went to LA, he saw the bright lights, the bright stars, and he
killed in LA. So they retired his number. Miami should do it if they haven't done it. But I don't necessarily think Orlando has to do it because let's not act like we're always talking about teams here. Orlando at the time had one of the best all around teams in the NBA. They had Nick Anderson, right, they had Anthony Hardaway right, they had Scott Skiles on on his latter years, right, they had Dennis scott Man. Orlando
had a roster. Shaq did change the game. So from a business standpoint, you'd be a fool for not to retire his jersey because everybody else is gonna do it, right, But Orlando owes him nothing. They do Why Why? Because before Shaq came there, nobody cared about Orlando. Besides the gother Disney World. You wouldn't even Orlando wouldn't even be on your top destination for vacation. Spots until Shaq came there and became a dominant presence. So
therefore you automatically owe him just off of that in itself. You know how many tickets he sold for the arena, You know how much money he made for that organization. The Orlando Magic jersey right now is a rep is a throwback because of Shaq. Otherwise, outside of Shack, who else you're gonna who throwbacks jersey? Do you want that played for Orlando? M the player that they say never lived up to the hype. He didn't, He didn't injury. He was a baller, right, But Shaq was dominant. He
was a forced to be wreckon with. He changed the game of basketball because of his size and his abilities. The greatest big man that ever played the game. But do you really think after four years he deserves a retirement after only giving that team four years? If Dame Lillard doesn't win a title here and he only Dame has what two years left on his contract? If Dame doesn't win a title here he only stays here two years, do we retire his jersey? It's different? How different? Come on, man, No
give me a reason much for one? How long have the Bucks been around, not years, years, year, many years. The Magic were in. You know, they were around for what three years before Shaq came? Nothing was going on. They didn't have anything to go off of. You're an expion expansion. There you go. Shack brought it all. I think you got to and then on top of that, took him to a title, or took him to a finals. They didn't get the they didn't get the chip, but he took him there. They had they had a great
team. I think you gotta I think you have got to definitely retire that. Like this, who's more Before you answer who's more valuable? Who was more valuable to Orlando Magic, Dwight Howard or Shaquille O'Neill. Before you answer who was more valuable? Who gave that team more shack lies? Shack lies? Because listen to this, Chris, I was gonna say, Okay, here's I'm stipid, go ahead to jump in. What more did the White dude than Shaq did? Because they both took their teams to the to the
finals. Didn't they go? Didn't the White take them to the finals. He went to the conference final, he went to the NBA Finals and loss of the Lakers. He had a squad. Uh there, Yeah, Lewis Lewis, he had Jamiir and Nelson, they had a squad too. Yeah.
I think Shaq come on, could think just think of it like this, Dre without shock they coming in that the dispension team, they'd already had three bad seasons, right Yeah. Do you think they still exist right now if Shockton come in and have his presence on that franchise, because they be gone like Seattle is right now Vancouver exactly, they be gone like the Grizzlies. They be Vancouver Grizzlies. They be gone, and they be gone like
the Seattle SuperSonics. Here's they be out of here. They would have never even been at the White and Orlando. Here's why I say that, Shaquille O'Neill, No, that's real. Give me, you're my guess. Okay, let's let's let down. You know, you know it's I'm gonna give the ball. You can get the flight in the way. Listen to White Howard though, and I'm not all the people in the listening to Chris to
Marquis, to Zeke, to Terrence to Tom. I am not saying that Dwhite is better than Shaq, but the White's contributions to Orlando compared to Shacks were way better. How many years? How many I'm gonna get there? Dwhite Howard while in Orlando delivered three Defensive Player of the Year awards. Three while in Orlando, Okay. Dwhite Howard averaged a near triple double while in Orlando. Nearly every season that he played for the Magic. The Magic were
a playoff team nearly every season that he played with that team. The only reason he left was because of his feud with stan Van Gundy. Now what I'm saying is, if you're gonna retire Shack, you dang show better retired to White Howard because he made the Magic relevant again. How long was he in Orlando? He played his most of his career until he got older. But he played in Orlando UH one, T two, four, six, eight, eight seasons in Orlando before he was traded around the league. Eight
seasons in Orlando. He played eight seasons. They got no championships, went for they have no championships and still did not get a title. He did he got all those defensive player of the years didn't or whatever you know, and didn't He didn't get a chip I don't think, not with Orlando. No, not with Orlando mand Wight. Go on. Now that's a difference. He might not he might not get he might not get no retirement, you know what I mean. Just I'm just saying, I'm being real.
He might not get one because of it, because all this stuff that's going on him. Listen, I'm going to say this, Orlando. Is it a worthy thing that they're doing. Absolutely, it's shocked the all time greatest. Yes, But I don't think anyone loses sleep if they don't retire his jersey. Is he Worthy's sure? But I don't think they owe him that they do. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't hate left. He became great. He was great before he left, but he
went and been great somewhere else, and then he went somewhere else. Have been great when he was a record breaker, he was breaking down realms. Yes. So if you're so, this is what I'll say. Orlando retire his jersey because he's in a he's a once in a lifetime player, not because of the contributions he gave to the team, because there were none. There was besides relevancy. What there wouldn't be no Orlando Magic right now.
Okay, he gave them a chance to extend their life expectancy. Because when when most when most expansion teams come, if you're bad for the first five years, non ti ten, they move you. Oh yeah, look how many times how these cities that the Grizzlies been too. Bro The only expansion team that has worked, I think for the past couple of years, it's been Toronto. Right in Vegas would work because it'll have Lebron's money. But you know, I'm not I'm not down playing what Shaq has done for Orlando.
It's take it like this. It's in that same boat, like Oklahoma City with KD. Without KD, that team would have lost. It's franchised without those key players. You get what I'm saying, Like Oklahoma City because Seattle lost out and they became Oklahoma City. Right Yeah. Without KD, Oklahoma City would have been done. They would have been done, They'd have been finished. Without Shaq. Orlando would have been finished without Vince Carter.
No Toronto, No Toronto. I get that, you know what I'm saying, Like there's certain players who do certain things for a franchise and saved them Shack saved them. Well, you know, loyalty means a lot to me, and I just don't think Shaq was loyal. He wasn't loyal to Orlando, just like Ray Allen wasn't loyal to us. Okay, while you over there talking, just like Carmela wasn't loyal to the Knicks. Okay, just
like Phil Jackson wasn't loyal to the Knicks. Right, Just no, no, no, no, Because you're over there on pay per view giving your commentary. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk about the Nick. Well, the Knicks how good? How about the Knicks were good? The shots have fire? Christ he was just Cleveland Brown's hat, all Like, what what? What? What are you trying to prove her on that Cleveland Brown's hat. Man, I was gonna say, Lebron loyalty he gave. You
know, he was loyal to the Calves. He left, went to Miami, did his whole thing, and then came back and got him a title. So, Dre, I see what you're saying about Shaq never bringing the title home. But I don't know if Lebron came back didn't get the Caps the title, what will we not retire his number, Lebron. I think the difference is Lebron didn't give for Lebron here eight seasons, and the white did too. We're not talking about the white. I'm just saying he's talking
about uh Sha, I know. I'm just saying you're talking about the white gay. I'm saying you saying the white argument is on the wrong scale. I'm just saying, think about you saying the white did eight years. Lebron did eight years and they were in the finals seven of them. You're talking about the white. Did you know the finals one time? You know what? The White couldn't get to the finals because of the Lebron stopper. The Lebron stopper. But anyway, man, let's get into Bucks talk before we
wrap it up. And here's one that I'm really interested in, you know, because we're all hometown guys. Uh are the Indiana Pacers the Milwaukee Bucks kryptonite? The Pacers are four and one versus the Bucks this season, including in season tournament. If they were the match up with the Bucks in the playoffs, could they beat them? Could they beat the Bucks in a playoff series? No? First answer. The first part of the question are the
Pacers the Bucks kryptonite. Chris, you said you gotta lot to say on this. I guess we'll let you go first. Are they see that they're they're the bucks kryptonite until the Bucks decide that they want to play small like the Pacers. If they continue, will and our Brook Lopez and Chris middles will because that's how I feel. They play pretty slow and they can't keep up with the Pacers. I think for now, until they do something different,
all right, let me let me go back. I didn't want the Bucks, and this might not be popular opinion, but I did not want the Bucks to re sign Chris Middle or brook Lopez. I think it was time for a change from last year. Yeah, you play a certain way, you end up losing or No. You gained Dame Lillard, you lose Drew, so you you know, we know what happens there. You gained some scoring, but you lose some defense. The big guy Brooke to me, he just played slow. He he's a good player, he can shoot
from the outside, he can defend. I just think they need a change. Chris, he's hurt a lot, and I just think he's slow on defense. But until they do something about that, Yeah, the Pacers are there kryptonite. Mm hmm. I said, wait, wait, oh, my see. I usually don't like to agree with ours when they come to my Bucks, but when you get to talking about trays that I should should have happened a long time ago. And I've been saying this how many seasons
straight now three? I've been saying Chris Middleton should have been on the trading block two seasons ago. It got somebody younger. They can do exactly what he do. But is they the Bucks kryptonite? No? I think the Bucks already allowing them to do what they want to do, just so when playoff time come, they can't figure them out because it's because almost it's almost inevident you're gonna have to see them some point in the playoffs, true,
and playoff Giannis is different from it regular season Giannis. Playoff Chris is different from regular season Chris. And we all know big Shot Dang is gonna step up to another level when the playoffs come. So I think the Bucks are kind of like testing things out when it comes to Indiana because they feel like
they're in an area right now where they can do that. And it might because we have we do have problems with younger teams, and we can go younger if we really needed to, But the Bucks like to stick with what they stick with until they really have to. But like you said, this season, if we don't win, if Chris is on that roster next year, it is going to be a big problem for the Bucks and they won't be able to get rid of them. Then I'm gonna say this. I'm
going to say this because y'all know me. I am probably the most objective Bucks fan that y'all probably know a long time. She's the ticket holder. When they're playing great, I say they're playing great, when they're playing trashy, I say they're playing trashy. Milwaukee. You know you always hit the ticket holder. You said it on every episode. We're saying as long as y'all know, as long as y'all know who, the real point is. So the point is, are they the Kryptonite? Absolutely? Absolutely? Uh
we we we. We did not take the Miami heat serious last year. Look what happened year before that. I'm not gonna count that because it was Boston the year before that. We swept Miami. Year before that, we didn't take Miami heat and they beat us, the Milwaukee Bucks have to absolutely take the Nyanipacer series. So your theory is that this is all a plan is stupid. You should not have said that. That was not one of your best lines. It was a terrible one. Okay, So back,
I didn't say that. I'm just hoping that's what they're doing. Well, thank you for saying hoping, because that that that was because Janni's was offended. He was offended how Halliburton was laughing at them on their home court. He was offended how Halliburton posterized him multiple times. The Bucks as an organization are starting to even question the equipment manager's role in all these losing games. Yanni said, it starts with the equipment manager. Maybe he's not washing our
clothes well enough. Now, obviously that shut up. Yes he did, Yes he did. Obviously that's probably sarcasm. But the Milwaukee Bucks better not sleep on the Indiana Pacers because they're showing that they can't beat them. Okay, it is what it is. I didn't do it, the records did. Okay. Right now, as it stands, the Milwaukee Bucks cannot beat the Indiana Pacers. And here's what I see it's a matchup problem. It's
a matchup problem, right. Uh. You put Halla Burdon on you and it's fine, But they're Miles Turner can't Brook can't keep up with him, right, you know what I'm saying. Uh, the Indiana Pacers, Actually he can. Miles Turner is not really that I'm telling you. The problem is that young dude they got. I can never think of his name. Uh, Benedict Matthern. He is a problem for the Bucks. I don't know what it is. When he plays the Bucks. He is a match
up problem because if you go small, he outpowers the Smalls. If you go big, he out He's quicker than the Biggs. So he's he's the problem in our matchup, along with Halliburton having good games. At the same time, it's rough and it's like they want to beat the Bucks. They like they want to play that. Everybody want to play their hardest against the Bucks. When you play Giannis, you want to play your hardest. When you play Lebron, you want to play your hardest. When you play KD
you're gonna play your hardest. Yeah, But in a series that's a lot different, a lot tougher because the game slows down, and that goes for everybody that running gun doesn't happen in the playoffs like that, like Indiana's doing and beating us doing the regular season. All I'm saying is we're a worse off defensive team. Yes we don't have we score, Yes we we we score, but we're letting the Pacers put up one hundred and forty points,
one hundred and thirty points. Our Dame scores thirteen and and Giannis gets a double double and Chris Middleton maybe shows up to work. If this happens in the playoffs, and your words adopted from Shaq, the Milwaukee Bucks are barbecue chicken. The Indiana Pacers are not a team right now. I'm not saying that it can't get better, but we should be very concerned about a matchup against the Indiana Pacers in the playoffs. The Bucks are losing. Do we
lose to the Spurs that we actually steal that one? We beat the Spurs. We lost to the god awful Houston Rockets last night, the Houston Rockets, So hold up. Sometimes the cred rock hit a rock and it's rocked four times for the Pacers. Okay, And if we get in the playoffs and we have to match up with those Indiana Pacers. It might not be the outcome we're hoping for it. That's all I'm saying. Now we have all up. We got half a season of fix it keys. Okay,
I get half a season. I get you, But don't knock the Pacers and the ability to score, because they ain't only put up numbers on us. They put up one fifty on the Hawks US. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, go back. The Hawks don't have Giannis, don't have Dame. Next, come on, they put up the Knicks. Okay, who also just did a ridiculous dumb trade. We didn't put that on the docket. But what were the Knicks thinking trade their talent
for? I don't even know who they got. But let's talk about rebuild. But that wasn't that wasn't smart at all. On the Hornets without a little man, one little man with the fine Instagram check LaMelo ball, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, God still working on me. I'm one hundred and thirty on the Clippers, okay, one hundred. So you're proving my point. You're proving my point because if Yiannis doesn't show up and Middleton has an off night or Dame has an off night. You know, they're good
for an off night every three or four games or so. In the NBA playoffs, the Bucks don't fix the woes that they're struggling with, whatever that is. The Indiana Pacers will mess around and eliminate the Bucks from the playoffs. They are absolutely on the heat too this season. They are absolutely all cryptoi. So I take back what I said at the beginning of the season. I said, and I'm sure my boy Zeke has a voice memo somewhere. I said, no one was afraid of the Indiana Pacers. No one's
gonna take them serious. And now I stand correct. Didn't say that about the n You did. You were the only one at the table. No, I think you and I agreed that no one is gonna take them serious. I think Zeke was the one that was like, what what y'all crazy? No? I said that, go back and listen, keys. You know, if you said it, I would tell you said you agree with me. I said Indiana and the Lakers. Remember no, I said Indiana and BA Lake, And I said the Lakers would have lost to what you
call it? Who did they play? I don't remember, but we both were on the same train. I didn't say the bus. I knew the wouldn't win in the season to turn No, no, no, we were both You did you picked Indiana and a Sacramento. Yes, I said, those two young teams you're gonna have to watch out for. Yeah, yeah, that's what. Yeah. So here's another controversy one, and we'll wrap
up in a few with this. Is this Milwaukee Bucks team a team we trust to win a title in twenty twenty four, Chris from what I've been watching, No, I mean I know we still have Oh yeah, yeah, I know we still have some time. Like it's still some time. All right, let me let me put no asterisk. There's still a lot of time left for them to get it together. But I don't see the Bucks playing defense. I don't know what it is, but the defense is
just not there. And yeah, we can all you know, blame it on Drew being gone, but they're just they're not showing up on defense. And then have you all seen like Dre you just you just kind of mentioned it. But they go on these laws where they miss shots like it even happened in the end season tournament against the Pacers, they start missing shots and you know, you can't get a bucket. Giannis will go and do his euro step and then you know, miss it off the backboard. The team,
you know, the opponent to get it go down score. They'll come back Chrystal miss a three, They'll get a rebound, pass it out to counterton Hill miss a three. Like they'll go through these laws where they cannot get a bucket at all. So I don't know right now, I don't know if I trust them to win another title this year. Right now now again they can get it together. I don't know if they're looking to, you know, make a trade or anything, bring someone in here that can
knock down some shots they got damn Yeah. But right now asterisk No, I don't trust them to win it. Asterisk Kesey, Well you think can do we trust this team to win a title in twenty twenty four. I trust them. And the only reason I say that is because even with our record that we have, we still number two in the West. I'm saying, like, even with our record, we would still be number two in
the West. Either way it goes, we would be number two in the East or number two in the West, and with the Bucks at number one is when we flop in the playoffs because the first time was Boston and the second time was Miami. We were number one. We don't need to be number one. We need to lose some games to humble us a little bit
before the playoffs because there are some arrogance there in the Bucks. You're saying, Yeah, the arrogance of like you think, like every time every game, you're gonna come out to shoot that many damn threes and win games. It's not gonna be that all the time. So the Bucks got to figure out a way. Well, they know how to do it, they just don't do it often enough. Yeah, and Adrian Griffin has to coach.
Yeah, Adrian Griffin has to do better. He has to put his foot down the till and stop shooting all those threes, because that is the biggest issue with the Bucks. When they lose, they shoot horrible from the three and they lose, and that is not how to win games. The Bucks are shooting thirty to forty three is a game we were at a game I'm just going said think about that game was at and they were shooting twelve percent
from and they kept shooting, and they kept shooting. No one took the ball in, no one went in for the layups, no one took the twos. They kept shooting for the Milwaukee Bucks. What I'm gonna say is, I absolutely think I've already spoken on the Pacers being to krypt nine. They are absolutely the Rypto nine. So you could come on, we're about to wrap up. They are absolutely the Kryptonite. Adrian Griffin needs to coach better. So this is not just on the players. Okay, Adrian Griffin
has to coach batter. I don't see a coach. I see an apprentice out there that's struggling to gain the attention of his team, that's struggling to gain the attention of the talent that he's coaching. Bobby Portis is going off on him in the locker room. Players on a bench are not even respecting
the calls that he's making. So Adrian Griffin needs to figure out what the heck the Bucks need to do. The general manager, Brian not Brian Windhorse, whoever our GM is, he needs to say, Okay, this rotation, this Dame experience, as great as it is, we need another piece here. We gotta have a shooter Brook Lopez. I like Brooke, but I do start to see the windedness. I'm starting to see it now. Brook is a killer on defense, a killer, but the offense is the
issue. But the defense, we were ranked right before for the Christmas Break like twenty one or twenty two in defensive efficiency. That is god awful for a team to try to win a championship. So do I see the Bucks in the twenty twenty four title right now? Picture absolutely not. Because the Bucks can barely beat the Pistons. They certainly can barely beat the Boston Celtics, and the Eastern Conference has changed dramatically. It's a changing of the guard.
I want my Bucks to win. I am a hardcore Bucks fan. I will get on this podcast and say, yes, I will pick the Bucks to win it all. Double injury Jesus Man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And so I will say that. But the Milwaukee Bucks, it starts with the coaching. It starts with the coaching. So before we wrap up, Mal, we have a guest here, Chris, Me and Keichy just gonna throw out some random basketball questions. One answer, that's
all you gotta do. We'll throw out some questions, you just give us an answer. All time favorite NBA player, all time favorite NBA player. I'm gonna have to take it to New York, Alan Houston, either, Alan Houston, and he a lot of people like who Pistons, you know, the Pistons. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm just I'm just I used to be a shooter, and I just love just the way he
he just you know, he can shoot. Most overrated player in the NBA right now, right right now, most overrated player who I don't know. I will probably have to say Haliburton. You know what, Dang, that's a great question. I might have to go with Halliburton. Okay, current MVP, current m VP right now, Yes, let's give it. I don't want to say, let's give it to Luca. Wow. Give it to Luca Wow. He's got them kind of there. Wow. You know,
I don't know. NBA Finals prediction, NBA Finals addiction today today, right now, I'm gonna have to go West Denver Nuggets. I'm gonna have to say they're gonna get back in and the Celtics. Celtics and the Nuggets we got, but I'm hoping that the Bucks can get it together and be there who you got winning it winning it all, winning it all. I'm gonna say Denver again. Okay, give us your all time starting five shooting guard, shooting guard, all time shooting guard. You gotta go with Michael
Jordan's point guard, point guard, staphy small forward, small forward. Oh, I might have to take it. No, I can't go with him. Uh. Small forward was Kevin Durant, the small forward? Was he power? He could play both? He played both. Not Kevin Durant, Kevin Gardinet, Kevin gard power. All right, I go with Durant as small forward, okay, power, power forward. I might have to go.
Dang, y'all getting me. Let's go with a Kevin Garnett Okay center shack okay, top three of all time, top three, top three of all time. Kareem Abdude Jabbar is number one, number one, okay, Michael Jordan's Okay, Kobe Bryant okay four and five, four and five, yeh shaquille O'Neil. Five. This is great. Oh that's very interesting. Oscar Robertson six. What is going on? This is six? Wait? Six, six of all time? You're honest? Seven? You know what
he's doing how far down Lebron is? Is Lebron in your top ten? He's in my top ten, okay, but he's not in his top seven. And on that note, this has been an episode of you I like to think I'm not good? James Harden or Dwayne Wade. James Harden and Dwayne Waite. Come on, d Wade Wade Way. He took Dwayne. He took James Harden over Dwayne Wade. Not our big brother Zeke. So listen man. Well, Chris, thanks for being with us today. Man, it was a blast having you with us. Man. This has been
another episode of the ninety four feet podcast. I have to take my brother Keith. It was another good one. Appreciate our guests here today. Man, I am my main man. Chris in the building killing itlas. Appreciate y'all. Thank y'all so much. I had a blast. I had so much fun. This is dope. Let's go Yeah, yeah yeah. You can listen to us on all streaming platforms wherever you can download your favorite podcast. My preferred is Apple, Keasey Ben and Android, Man and All.
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