Face/Off

Uh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. This is another episode of ninety four feet podcast. That's your boy, but ezeche in the building here, my brother Grey, Yo, what's good? Everybody? Happy summer? My boy Kesey was good, good people, and we are here. We are coming down to it. The NBA Finals is here. If you do not know, If you do not know, I think the lost time we recorded was Game five of Dallas and the Timberwolves. Dallas

gave them a nice spanking. I don't know the score, and I can recall it. It was. It was bad. All I know is Luca went off and they could not recover. I'm not surprised. Well, no, what, I'm sorry, I am surprised. I'm very surprised. I thought after Minnesota beat Denver they were bound to go to the NBA Finals. I will say that I thought their NBA final NBA Finals bound, but they tell them not. And then Boston be Indiana for a handle in a row. Now, I want to say easily, because they swept them, but

should have won three two of those games actually should have won three. Let's be honest. I think they should have won like two of those games, So that game that serious should have went first. I think they should have won like two of those games. You know, on that topic, since you mentioned that, I am we were pretty hard on Indiana because we don't like them. But I wonder if Halliburton played how different it would have been, because they almost did win game one, they almost won Game two,

they almost won Game three. U. Let's be honest. Boston had to really earn that game for victory because it was back and forth. It was never such a blowout. So they won two with they lost two with Halliburt in the thing, and then they lost two more without Halliburt. So I don't think Halliburton is the factor into how they're going to win games. You know what the factor is going to be is them getting more maturity in learning

to take advantage of their leads and and that comes with time. And they're young. Some of the players on there ain't been there the whole season, and they kind of lost their balance in the going against Boston, who has a balance because they play together all year. Indiana is not a horrible team, they're just young, and I don't like Halliburt, young and cocky. Yeah, I think they got they gotta they gotta they gotta find they gotta find a chemistry to get them over the hunk. Yeah, that does with

time. I think that. To me, the difference between Boston and there difference between Indiana and Boston was Indiana didn't have a closer. And now what I mean by a closer is somebody who can keep scoring. Man, that's the maturity part. But I don't know if that's gonna be a maturity part because if you if you're sick. Because the person so game so three and four, I think I don't know his name, I'm gonna try to I

disagree. But finished guy, the guy who was carrying them through the first three fourth orders, like the first four little Bone Thugs and Harmony, Little Bone Thugs and Harmony from Indiana. He was carrying them in game two and three and four. He was carrying them all three quarters and they had a substantial leave. When it came down to that five minutes in the fourth quarter, Boston like kind of shut him down, and he was making mistakes that

a young player makes. So I get what you're saying, but I still feel like, even let's say Hallibert was there, I don't think he would have made the difference as far as them being the closer, because he's not a closer. He can't score whenever he move, he could just score anything. That's that's the reason I said. Maturity comes where you know how to get a bucket and stop the bleeding like a Kyrie. Irvin, he knows when he got to get a bucket. Yeah, Luca knows when he got

to get a bucket. Tatum, he he kind of knows when it's how I said, kind of just say all the way. Sometimes he's still he's still finding his way a little bit too. But I think Drew was giving them their balance. One thing about Indiana that I think was missing. I think kind of like the bucks. They need that third scorer if Indiana, because the people that Indiana did play with, when they went cold, they

went cold. In Game four, it was eight minutes and nine seconds that Indiana didn't score not one basket, and when God forbid, that's the Golden State Warriors, right or Dallas with sharpshooters, and they're continuously scoring and missing. So to me, it seems like Indiana was missing just a small piece. And we said it, well, Zeke and I said it all year because you know, you can't be objective Kesey when it comes to the Bucks.

But we said all year it's true what you got to say, well, because leave me out of it. Zeke and I said this all year. The Milwaukee Bucks did not want to see Indiana in the playoffs because we didn't believe they could beat them. And with or without Gianni Is, Indiana made it look easy. With us in the playoffs, Boston barely beat them. And I'm gonna say this, I think it leads a segue into your first topic. I am concerned about the Boston Celtics ability to beat the Mavericks

to win the title. I am very concerned for a lot of reasons. I don't know we're there yet. We're not there yet. I'll stop, but I am concerned and I'll share it when we get there. I am extremely concerned about their ability to beat the Dallas Mavericks because the Boston Celtics, I have a lot to say about their game play. Well, like I said, speaking of the Boston Celtics, many would say the Boston Celtics had an easier path to the NBA Finals. Is this an advantage or a disadvantage?

Going into the series. I think it's a big disadvantage. One of the things that I see, or that we've all seen with the Boston Celtics is when they're on, they're on. But when those Cats are off, oh, they are off, and they are off terrible. Right, for the first round, they swept, right, they got what's it callor got one? Boston's only lost two games, right, Boston's only lost two games this whole series. I think they're twelve and one of Miami and one and

one to Cleveland. Cleveland. Okay, so Miami heat, No Jimmy easy, Donovan Mitchell sat out what the last two games of that series? Two games? Yep? Easy? Right, Indiana was hobbled. Indiana was easy getting there too. No, no, no, no, no, you can't say that Boston didn't have it easy to say. Indiana they have Giannis, they had a wishy, washy Dame, and we had a banged up Chris Middleton. So Indiana's pathway was just as easy as Boston's. Come on, now, I don't want to say that. Well, it was just

as easy. They took they took, they took what's it called, took them to seven and I think they took the Knicks to seven. Bronson got hurt. I think if Bronston didn't get hurt, it might have been it might have ended differently. And as far as them playing the Bucks, the Bucks didn't have Giannis. If the Bucks are who we say they are,

they should have been Indiana. It would it should have went to seven, but they should have been Indiana. But as I think it's as far as it being a disadvantage or an advantage, I think I kind of think it's an advantage. You have yet to play the best basketball and you have yet to be put in the position to uh a position to you. You're scrambling,

per se. They were scrambling. Don't let they were scrambling. Don't let their twelve and two record fool you in the playoffs because they had to fight for all those when the only tea they really destroyed really was the Miami Heat. But like you just said, without Jimmy, without without Jimmy, I think when when it came to Cleveland, I think I think Donovan Mitch would have got them one more win, Cleveland one more win, and then

they had Indiana. Indiana is just inexperience. I think that was their only thing. But I think that it's an advantage because you have yet to play your best basketball. I think that when you come when you talk about the East, it was it was it was Boston Milwaukee. It was Boston Milwaukee, and the Knicks came along towards the end of the season, but it was really Boston Milwaukee. It was Boston and Milwaukee's to lose. And especially

when uh what's his name? Plus you when NB got hurt and stuff like that, it was it became a wide on the thing. But to me, I think it's an advantage just because they have, you have to play their best basketball. They have yet to have a real challenge or whatever. And I knew that was gonna happen, actually, but I think it's an advantage. Casey, take your time. Take your time? What proverb sixteen three? It's the Bible lab Sorry, really did, Casey? You?

You've been in a dialogue for sixty seconds and I hate said a word. Really do? It is the first thing you got to say. I did say something. Man, we talked about this just this recent Yeah, you're weird talking about this, he said, Casey. You was like, because I was getting ready, getting ready for Claire, you're sound like your clients, y'all making lose my whole train of thought dealing with y'all. So I like your clients anyways, I haven't lost track. Oh Jesus Christ, I

lost whole trying to thought listening to him, the whole BI belong. What I asked was the Boston Celciers had an easy path to the playoffs to the finals. I wouldn't say an advantage or a disadvantage. I don't say a disadvantage, but I do say it's not an advantage or disadvantage. I mean, it is what it is. Remember we keep saying that every year since we've been doing this, a lot has got to go right in your favor to make it to the finals. And this is the type of stuff we're

talking about, injuries and that. But that's shooting. But I'm gonna let you series, you know what I mean. Like they just had series that go the way they wanted it to go. But they are number one seed, just like the different. It ain't no different than when the Bucks one we was the number one seed. I know, I'm sorry, we number two seeds, but at the end of the day, we played a injury

of Brooklyn got injured. No, Kyrie didn't play none that series. Harder got injured that No, he got injured Game one or two that was hard didn't play that series. No, Kyle didn't play that series. James hard than the one who got hurt the game. Yeah, didn't play in that series. Okay, he hurt his ankle in some series that that year we won anywhere we had a path to the finals, we had we had to assist that went our way. And that's the same thing with Boston. They

had a path that went their way. So he said it's an easier path. It's not really easier. It just that's how. That's just how it is. Ain't no different than when when Jordan went to the finals, he had a path that went his way. Ain't no different when the Lakers went to the finals and they wanted with Shaq and Kobe, stuff went they way. I'm not gonna I usually I'm not gonna let dre tap dance around this. I'm not gonna let you tap dance tap dance, said I know.

I said, I'm usually tap dance tap dance. Yeah. Later sought out your shoes. You can't. Yeah, you're not even gonna be just tapped that. I'm gonna be honest with you. Then all right, we don't look at it like this. Then all right, they're gonna struggle against Dallas because you're going against you're going against a prime time veteran and Kyrie and Kyrie, and then you're going against a Luca who confidence is on one hundred thousand

right now. The performance he put on that last game against Minnesota Lu but he was balling out the whole shoes. But that last game he was on one. Oh, he owned, he was on one. Owned, he owned everybody that guarded him that that game. He was on one. And he going into the finals on one. And that's something you don't want. Because Kyrie gonna beat Kyrie. You don't want Luca coming in thinking he owned

one and he gonna get you. I mean, some people say it's the other way around, you know, because Luca and Tatum cross each other out. Let's go there, right. I don't know about that, because see the thing is, with the game on the line, I'm gonna give it to Luca before I give it the table. I'm just I don't think they can. I don't think that statistics, but I don't think, Luca.

You know what I'm saying. It's almost balanced. One might be a little better than the other one some games, but at the end of the day, they kind of balance each other out. Brown and even go and balance each other out. It's gonna what Kyrie have halves where he don't even score but two points, you get what I'm saying. And if Brown do the same thing, where it's halves where he don't even score, just like Kyrie, and then he'll come on and have twenty something in the second half,

but still Brown. But Brown is the difference is Brown is a definitive too, Kyrie is it long, So they're canceling each other out. Basically, it's gonna boil down to everybody after those four players, who's gonna show up? Because I think Boston is clearly, clearly the better defensive team by locked but locked. If Derek White comes out and play the way he been playing all playoffs, Dallas might have some problems. If my Singers comes back,

they might have some problem. He will be available game one. But Graphic has been playing some good ball, So I mean you I ain't gonna I'll get into it. We'll get into it. Later. But number one, the funny part is Jason Tatum North Jaylen Brown will not be initially guarding Luca. It's gonna be It's gonna be Drew. He's gonna happen. He's gonna give Drew some problems. You give him something. Derek White is gonna be holding Kyrie, and Kyrie is gonna give him some problems initially. Now after

they didn't got balled out all you don't have to switch it up. Who told you that? Because their guard, their point guards in their shooting guard. Who told you that? Though? Who told me what that that's what they want to do. I could just tell Jason Tatum, I'm gonna tell you like this, if you put Drew on Luca Dallas wins in five, you don't have that kind of faith in Drew to lock him up because let me tell you why. Because Luca, Luca is the type of player He's

gonna play at his same pace all the time. He's not going to change his pace. And that's the same thing that Jimmy Butler does. He plays at his own pace and he doesn't change his pace. And that's what gives who Jimmy does change, don't Jimmy do what he do. He bigger, He just bigger. He take advantage of it, just the same way Luca does. They take advantage of what they can do, what they're good at. And that's what Jimmy Butler did to to Drew. He took advantage of

what he was good at, what he could do good at. Against Drew. He can get him in the paint and he can shoot right over him. Luca's gonna do the same thing. Sure, mm hmm. You spent a better chance to putting Drew on Kyrie and slowing him down and putting him on Luca. Your better bet is to put Brown on Luca. Until Brown don't worry about scoring it this she'll take them to go nuts. Yeah. Well, moving on, the same question goes for the Dallas maverage, and

they had a much harder path to the NBA Finals. They were a fifth seed. They were the first team since the Lakers, since Kobe I don't know. I think it was sixteen to seventeen where he beat three fifty fifty win teams in one playoff series on his way to the NBA Finals. He'd be three teams that won fifty game plus and Luca is the first person to do that since Kobe, is this a disadvantage or of an advantage going into the series. They had a nice easy path to Cone. How they have

an easy path? They played a young Oklahoma City Thunder team, young, very young. They won fifty some games. Here who did they have first round Clippers, Clippers, No, Kawhi, both sides. That's why I said. They had a path that that went their way. And then they got Minnesota after they just put on they had to pour in everything to beat

the defendive champs. Nah No, I'm not giving you that because there's no way after you beat the champs and this is the fifth seeded team, you should you'd be like, oh I got this, we got it, NBA Finals, no problem. That's how Anthony was talking. That's how he should have been talking. But I say they I said they had Like I said before each team they had fifty wins plus despite the injuries. Oklahoma had no injuries. But you say that until your body showed different. You get what

I'm saying. Like this, you tired, You're supposed to be tired. And if anything, Luca was hurt when they played the Clippers. He literally was like hey, but what's hurting on you everything? I'm tired, my body is hurting my leg I think he had like some knee issues or something like that. Kyrie and Kyrie was Kyrie was pouring it on that series. Kyrie was not going ham like that. He didn't go hammer, but he

poured it on enough to keep them in the game. All Luke had to do is hear some shots here and there, Like Luca wasn't still leading team in scoring though he was. But but when you got a guard like Kyrie right next to you, put that can pour it on and give you a break here and there because you know your body is hurting. Who did Anthony Edwards have to give him a break? Anthony Edwards was. Anthony Edwards was burnt out. He needed somebody to step up and give him a break.

Cat didn't do it, and and and Rudy didn't do it. Nas Reed didn't do it. All of these players that everybody was talking about was this, this, and that. When it came down to Anthony Edwards needing them, you couldn't find him. I don't cashing lines with bait. I. What I say to that is this, when I agree with that, I'll agree with that a little bit, because when Anthony is off, you do have to, like other guys step up, and those guys weren't stepping up.

So I will give you that. But to say that they're they ship like this is how because you're talking about two teams who who are I ain't gonna say equally, but they they rolled the same path. They had to beat Minnesota, had to be Phoenix, who they swept and they beat. Then they played Denver where they took the seven games, and then now they had to play Dallas, who they took the with the five games. Anthony

Edwards setting himself in post game, I need to do better. I needed to get my training up, even though he knows even though I should be tired right now, I shouldn't be this tired. I should have been able to keep up with Luca and with Kyrie, even though you're you're talking about too one is a super star and the other one is, I want to say, a pass superstar. I just think he has a bad rap,

but he's still a superstar. Yeah. So when you talk about how like they both had a I mean both these teams had a Minnesota Timbers in the Boston So's had an easy path. I wouldn't say that. I would say they had a I think Minnesota, not Minnesota. I think Dallas had a rougher path with dealing with getting through all the stuff they had to deal with. What is Minnesota coach name? I don't know, dude that broke his leg Finch, Finch, Finch or something like that. Finch series for them,

I don't think. So. Why you say that? You know why, anytime you change your offense up and you make Rudy Gobert post up, you're going to lose. He had to think about this, think about it like this. Out of all the games we watch with Minnesota, how many games have you seen the offense was based around who Gobert posting up? No? I actually he should never be posting up. He should be only getting buckets that are near the like near the rim, so I should never be

guarding Luca. My only problem is he's I watched this and then watched this for those last three games straight. Mm hmmm. Because because Rudy had Luca on him, they called themselves trying to take advantage of that right and making Rudy post up, but it really only slowed them down and made them lose instead of them just kept playing the way they were planning it, the same

way they were playing against Denver or what was off off? Then you put Cat in the post and now who that Now, now Luca, Luca was was owning him too. But the problem is who listen. And then the problem with it is is like you got Cat throwing the all into Rudy. Now who is that? Who the hell should be throwing the ball to? Who Rudy should be throwing the cat or Cat should be throwing the Rudy Neither one of those things should be happy. It should be Cat is the second

best player in that team. Cats should be give me the ball. I see you all, give me the ball. I go to work. He should be, and he did not do that. He should be telling Rudy, get your big old ass over there and get and get out of my way and let me go to work. Exactly. He didn't do that. You know what he did, toss the ball, dumped him the ball in the post every time Luca was on him. He scored here every now and again. But it wasn't efficient enough to help them win games. So that's

why they lost games. They went away from what they were good at transition defense. And they couldn't hold Luca, but they couldn't hold Joker either, or they couldn't hold up Murray. But Murray got locked up, but you forced him into tougher shots. To help you out. I'm gonna go on the other and you transition in order to help your defense out. Because the more you transitioned on that Dallas, the more you would have You would have

put your foot in Dallas's neck because Dallas don't play defense like that. You was set, you was. You were sitting there letting Grafford sit in the paint and slap your damn shot all game. He was blocking Cat shot like Cat was one of us. I'm going to go on the reverse side and say I I hear everything you said. I just think Minnesota because they had to work so hard to get there. Right, Minnesota sweat Phoenix, which we were all shocked about. Right, let's just call it with no one

expected them to sweep no Phoenix suns. I thought so you they didn't. You had Minnesota in six. I thought the Minnesota. I thought they would be Phoenix. They sweet. I still had Phoenix winning even when it went down to Oh, I'm like Jon k d but knowing who Kevin Durant is shouldn't surprise any of us. They had to come back what no, they had, Yes, they had to. They were up three to zero and literally had to come back and defend themselves and play four more hard fought games

against the defending champions. So I think Minnesota by the time it got to Dallas, Minnesota is not as quick as people think they are. Edwards is, but Minnesota offensively, they don't move too quick. Dallas moves quickly. Guarding Kyrie and Luca was a problem for Minnesota. Anthony Edwards was held to season low numbers all series against the Dallas Mavericks. You can tell he was

tired. I think he put too much pressure on himself. And Dallas did something that no one else has been able to do with these two players all season. They kept their big men in foul trouble Cat filed out what two of the of the game against Minnesota, Rudy filed out in a few of the games, and Dallas created so many mismatches that Dallas had this in the bag. A lot of people think that it's a mismatch if Zeke is guard if I'm guarding Zeke because I'm short, right, But it works both ways.

It was a mismatch for both of those bigs to be on Luca. It was a mismatch. No one could hold Kyrie, not one person on that Minnesota team. So it comes back to Minnesota and experience. That's why they lost because Minnesota played. They played hard. But we also seen. If anyone questions if Anthony Edwards is the guy, I tell you he is absolutely the guy, because we saw what happened when he doesn't score thirty or more. I mean, they lose. I don't think he's the guy,

but they lose badly. I'll say this. I ain't gonna say he's not the guy. But you know, now, at first, I was like, if you make it to the NBA Finals, we might have to look at this Jordan thing. But now that's when the curse started. That's what he started losing with. Y'all start calling that man, Mike, that's when the curse started. Y'all quit. But like I said before, Jordan and his playoff career high was in a losing series. So they'll probably be back

next year. We'll see what happens. I don't know man. One of the things that I am singing in the NBA and let the record show, I am very happy for the Boston Celtics. I'm very happy for the Dallas Mavericks. As a longtime Bucks fan, as a Steph Curry fan, as a guy that hated the Super Team era, you we all got to admit. We let's all admit it is nice to see different people in the finals for a change, not really besides the Bucks. It is nice to see

that it's not Lebron. It's nice to see that it's not Steph Kirk. I like seeing Stephan Brown in the finals. They put on shows in the finals. I don't You don't like to put shows. Lucas will put on the show. Kyrie will put on the show. We're going to see. You want to see what Kyrie has really made of I don't want to see. I don't want to see Boston nothing. I don't want to see. This is a surprise. This is redemption for Kyrie. If Kyrie can pull this off and put on a finals m v P type of series, he

can rejuvenate Kyrie. Kyrie is already rejuvenating. What are you talking about? A star you know what I'm talking about his reputation. His reputation. I think his reputation of not having no issues for the whole season and playing in some fantastic basketball all season and go to the finals and put on a show. Well, here's the thing. He's going to get paid and people are going to have already got and he's going to get respect. You already got

that that he deserves. I think a lot of people are going to change their minds about Kyrie. I will say that since Kyrie left Boston, he's owing ten. So rather that's regardless. You know, he he was with Brooklyn ten and what owing ten and they played Boston's own ten and then remember they have a personal Vandelic for him stumping on the logo, stomping on the logo and stuff like that. So since he stopped the logo, he's been on in ten. So I mean, I'm not but no time titles have

been on the line either. That's true too. Iri is the only player in these finals that but him and Holiday that have won a title. Yeah, but Boston has experience in the NBA finals losing with Jason Taylorm losing, It's still experienced losing. It's still experience, but it's losing, is it not? Is it not? I know why you're saying it. Why because because they who they lost to. I get it, but they still experience really lose, and when it's still experienced. This said, this is going

to come down to coaching. Jason Kidd versus Joe Missoula. It's gonna come down to the stars showing up. It is, and it's going to come down to who will play forty eight minutes of basketball? Luca get ready to play the whole game because Dallas has a rotation. No, I don't think Here's the thing. I don't think. No, I don't really don't get into it right now. But but Luca doesn't need to play a whole forty eight minutes. Kyrie doesn't need to play a whole forty eight minutes. This

is this is gonna come down to. I think this is gonna come down to rotations if anything. But they should be playing a lot of minutes and they know that. You know what I think is interesting? I saw on one of the sports pages I follow, did y'all know that Kyle Kuzma had a chance to go to Dallas this year? He turned and turned it down and said they weren't a contender. I got some even better for you. And now they're in the finals, I got some even better for you.

Grant Williams was on both these teams, both of these teams at one point in time this season. So he'll get a ring no matter who win. Are you sure I thought you'd get a ring after you play so many games for a team. He didn't play that many games with Dallas. He didn't play at least forty. I don't think he did. Okay, so he will not He will watch these NBA. He's a clown. He will get a ring either way he participated in any games of that season, he gets

a ring. Not any game, not Boston. There's a certain amount of games. I think play a certain game, because who wasn't somebody who said somebody from the Bucks championship that did the same thing, but they were playing for somebody else and got a ring. Brant Williams is eligible for a ring with the Celtics. Wait wait, wait, wait wait, wait, let's see here. Let's see him in case he did not play in the preseason

or the regular season. So Boston does not have to give him a ring, Boston does not if if the Mavericks win it this year, Williams played forty seven games and is eligible for a ring. He's eligible. He's eligible for Dallas. Boston can offer him one, per the article, but because he didn't play one game, they technically don't have to offer because he didn't even play preseason with Boston. When did he? He got traded to Dallas

before the season started, and then they traded him to Charlotte. Yeah, because he got I canna say he got into it with Luca, but he was He's a clown. He's a clown. He's a Patrick Beverly want to be, but just not as good on defense. Mm hmmmm. Clown. But so, who who's going to be the best player going into the series? Luca? So was Grant Williams another player that overvalued himself, no value. I don't think he I think he's immature, he didn't think along.

He didn't get along with the right person. Because the only reason Boston traded him is because I thought it was because the type of money he was looking for. So Boston was like, we're not giving you that type of money. I say, he kind of was a nuisance in the locker room, and then he went to Dallas. Team was the same thing, talking trash, coming to the podium, talking smack about players. He just didn't He had that one breakout series against who the Bucks and then just thought he was

God's gift. But to answer your question, man, the most important player is Luca is Luca? I said, who was the best player? He's better than tain him, Luca. Who's the what best player? I said Luca too, But you said Kyrie Kyrie. I'm listening. Why Luca is hungry. I get, I get, I get he's hungry. But Kyrie is a whole another animal. Dude, if you look at it, dude is a problem and he can win one with all Lebron. I think that's

important for him. Kyrie is going to come into this series and and put on a show because because if you think about it, when Bron won, he is with him, Kyrie the one who was hitting them big shots. Was Is there a chance that Brian and Briani go to Dallas. No, Kyrie said that he wants to play with Lebron again before the career is over. He did say that, and it's going to happen, so what is

so they gotta go this. They dropped him in fifty five, So listen, Actually he got invited to thirteen different teams for workouts, right, and who do you work out for? He only worked out. He only worked out for the Lakers and the Phoenix Suns. He people even know what he look like now, huh look like clown look like, but we don't know what he what he does. It's almost like they planned this this way for them people not to know what he looked like. Like, why because every

every superstar that you know of they went to their workouts. Why don't he go to the workouts? Because he's Bron's son, He's he's he's riding the Bron name to the bank. Come on, let's list back it off. Because we talked about it last week. Listen. I hope we talked about it last year. I hope Brody come in to do something he ain't because if he don't, he won't. With the way they carrying about him, you would think Jordan or something. They were gonna dog him out so bad,

and I don't. It's going to go so ham want to go som No, No, everybody's gonna everybody has been keeping it light with Briani, and they're going to continue to keep it light with Briannie because they know what happens when you go when you happen. You talk about Lebron, Ladron James or his family and it's fine, I get it, but let's not act like we don't know what this is. But really quickly though, so I've

seen this. I've seen it this morning on my way here. The Boston and the Detroit Pistons owner or GM has a son in college and he is going to he's going to the draft. This man averaged zero point seven points a game. Noah'sists, one point two rebounds. He entered the draft. Why his father is the GM of the Detroit Pistons is he Have you seen them play? Though? What you need to see with zero points? Zero points? I'm just saying, have you have you done any research to see

why? He haven't done any research. I have never seen him play. He's average zero point seven. At least Briani can get you three more than that. My point is this, it's a lot of what what's what I

say? Zero? It's a lot of that going on around in the league, and I wish I was zek I would totally try out forty and then this is this, yeah, I know somebody, And then this is the draft because this is a really weak draft, so this will be the time for if you're if you sucking, you know somebody this is and here's why. Who are the Lakers that's making trade with? They made a trade with New Orleans. New Orleans told the Lakers to keep the first round pick.

Don't let them keep it because the draft class is so terrible. He said, no, you keep it because it was a protective pick, and they get to choose if they wanted this one or the next two seasons, take the next And my thing is this, with your first round pick, go ahead, drive Brownie, and then go ahead and bite the bullet, bite the criticism. They have to set that though. Yeah, the Lakers gotta take it. It's part of Anthony Davis. Part of Anthony Davis tight.

I know, but I'm saying, like, I know, I remember the trade, but I'm saying, like, is it that they get two picks, They get to pay, they get their first round, get their first round pick, and they get to choose. So if they didn't want it this year, they can say nope, keep it will take the next season, and they already told them that they'll keep it. Y'all can keep it, y'all can keep it. We'll take twenty five because this draft is pretty

weak. The next couple of drifts is gonna be looking like that. But they have they can say it again. They can say we don't want this one the next week, many years, gonna keep push in the back. It's it's a it's an un It's a protective first round pick that gives the uh New Orleans Pelicans the right to decline or protect up until twenty twenty nine. That's why we always say they always giving up everything for the future. Like the Bucks. We don't got to drive pick to twenty twenty freaking nine

a first round draft pick, but we got dang. But anyway, back to the question, who's the most important player in the final who already said it? Kyrie? I said Luca, He said Loka. I got Kyrie, No Tatum, no Jaylen Brown, Jalen Man. He too. Wish fact that he won Eastern Conference m v P. He should have. It's a slapping tatums he should have. This is low key. This is no longer about to be Tatum's team. Tatum is about to get that reputation of

Camarlo, Anthony k D and those guys who can shoot really well. And that's it. Oh you can shoot. Okay, they scores. They're not shooters, they're scores. They can score. And that stuff gets play it out real quick, like five six years all right, Okay, this is what you are. He wouldn't even top five MVP voting for a reason. I'm gonna tell you, like this, Kyrie is going to be the factor of the finals. I don't know if Kyrie is gonna be that guy.

Dude, he's a magician when he get the ball in the he's like the stuff, the stuff he does, how he the stuff he does with the ball, how he makes his layup, his handle. I get what you're saying. I agree with you, but I think the maturity of Irving the best part of it about Irving. His maturity in those games when he was in Cleveland, he was making those big shots and stuff like that. He thought in his head, I'm better than Lebron, so I can make this

shot. Yeah, ky The new Kyrie is like, you know what, this is Luca's team. I'm just here to help him along the way. So if it comes down to it and he he's guarded, Like when I think it was a buzzer beat. Everybody was talking about that Kyrie made against Denver during the season. Kyrie would go get that ball, but because Luke it was covered and he made that shot with his left hands. So on and so forth. But that's what I'm saying, like, and that's what

a good Robin does. But that don't get it twisted. That's still Lucas team. It doesn't steel back. It's still going to take the fact away that Kyrie could be better. To me. I mean, at the end of the day, Miami was Wade team, but Lebron was the king, was the batman. Different than it was Kobe's Kobe's team, it was Shacks team. It was Shack. It was Shacks team. It was Kobe's team, but Shaq was the better person at the time. It was it was

Shacks. It was Kobe team. Because who got traded and why did he get traded? Because Kobe didn't want him, didn't want them, because everybody was saying the same thing because it was because it was Kobe's team. This is my team. That's what players do who team it is the Alladay. No, they get old. They running by him. Hey, he's want to run. His value is what we do. Listen, come on, we have we have to there and has a little Lebron in them. This

is the fourth coach you got? You got three coaches fire man, Come on, man, he got three coaches fired. He got his brother a spot on the team. His bumps brother in the words that he got his brother on the team. Don't say he fired, he got you. He coaches fired and fired. Those coaches got fired for legitimate reasons. Lebron coaches get fired after a winning season. You gotta winning season, you get fired. That you a fool if you think that both coaches on the payroll.

Thanks Giannis. Anyways, So I actually was the best player in going into the series. Who's the most impactful player in going to the series? Two different things. Now, impactful player, I'm gonna give you Kyrie and I'm gonna give you Drew Holiday, one for each team because they've won titles. Drew Holiday defensively, there is no better player on the court defensively in these finals than Drew Holliday. Do you think you can held Krie? I do

I do listen. Just because you get a bucket or two on them and there's a height advantage doesn't mean listen. We saw Holiday do it with Booker. We saw him do it just last round with whomever from Indiana say that say that part, okay, we saw him do it with a lot of star studied players. He's gonna be holding to Luca, and Luca's gonna give him some Luca is going to give him problems, but Kyrie, but Holiday

will hold his own. I think defensively, Holiday is the most important I'll say that for Boston, but I think Kyrie is going to be the most important player because here's the thing. People think they got the playbook figured out. Just pass it to Luca, like the episode of Fresh Prince. Just pass it to Will. Just pass it to Will, pass it to Luca. I think people are going to think that Kyrie is gonna I think Kyrie's gonna be left open more than he normally would. I don't think they'll play

a lot of one on one against Kyrie. And I think if you leave Kyrie open, don't get it twisted. He's not the greatest shooter, but Kyrie can be a bucket If he needs to be. So I'm gonna say Kyrie is probably gonna be the most impactful player because Kyrie also has. What I can appreciate about Kyrie is his maturity in the game. He is becoming more mature in the game, and the way I've seen Kyrie play this season has been very calmon and I think he'll bring that common championship approach to the

game. And it starts in Boston, right because Boston what their number one and whatever in Boston, two in Dallas and then goes back and forth. Yep, two to one one two two two one one one. Kyrie is the best player going in and Luca is going to be the most impactful to me because Luca can establish himself as a face now off of this, Kyrie has been there and done it, so we know he's better because he's been there and he's hit shots in the finals. Luca's never been to the finals,

never hit one shot in the finals. Yet he gotta go to the finals and prove himself. Kyrie has proven he can hit shots in the finals and hit big shots in the finals and get a ring off the finals, and would have had more if him and Kevin Love didn't get hurt that year against Golden State. Said what I say, So you know what I'm saying. So Luca has will have the most impact. Kyrie is the best player

going into this finals. I have PJ, PJ Washington, Kyrie, PJ, Luca gonna get You're gonna Kyrie gonna get his, Lucas gonna get his. You just said that, you said they gonna get there, and you said Jaylen Brown, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum crossed them out. So who's gonna be the other guy that's gonna step up? It has to be PJ Washington because PJ Washington was the guy who was the X factor against uh the Clippers, and he's the X factor somewhat against Minnesota because when when those guys

were off, they were getting the bucket the ball to TJ. Washington. But he's gonna be that, He's gonna be the most pacful, He's gonna be the x facts. Okay, then if we go on to that, then PJ and Derek White gonna have to be the most fact impactful players. Yeah, I agree. I can agree with that. Derek, whoever, whoever has a better series between them two is going to be basically the champs. I can get. I can agree with that. I can agree because if if, if, what what's it? Calling? Has? They?

They got drewd p his ingis. But I feel like this and I was. The more I watched the Boston series, the more it kind of came to me as far as going back to the Bucks. When we were we were asking for Drew to do a lot with very little. When he when when uh when when Giannice went down and Middleton went down, he was like, Drew, you up next. Drew's not scoring thirty, we know that he can win. He who Holiday? They ain't even scoring fifteen? You

know what it is though? Shooting and shooting is streaky. That's the problem with Drew, That's what I'm saying. But my point is that once you if you, if you take him, let's say, let's say he has a bad defense. Just what I say about Drew. He keeps playing. So if he's having a bad shooting game, he's just gonna make it up on the defensive end. That's what we liked about Drew, and I think Boston likes that at Drew too. But don't get when when he comes to

Boston he's the fourth option. So listen, don't tell me you running with that narrative about the Bucks and Drew. That what that we miss Drew and we need him. Yeah, I am a defense win championship. Do you think, okay, take take take Dame out of that, do you think the Luxure still would have won, would have lost to Indiana exactly? So Drew was a problem for us too, because because if it's streaking, it's streakly shooting. But this is and that. But you hear what I said

about is being hurt and Middleton be hurt. If Middleton, let's just say, for our argument sake Middleton and let's say let's say let's say Giannis is out and Middleton is hitting. I'm confident in Middleton and Drew. Combo. Combo, I'm confident that that could be Indiana because Drew's gonna lock up somebody. He may not get it done on the offensive end, but he's gonna lock up somebody like holly Bert, all that, all that bs he was

doing lock up. I doubt it because he did the same thing against them, he did against thing against who Boston the first two games he played. So that doesn't that don't change anything, and he was doing that on Derek White Andrew. So at the end of the day, Drew leaving us was on a plus or minus. We was kind of neutral one. But he just it just it just so happened. He he got on the team that

had the right path that he helped get there. I think either way go, Boston's in the finals right now, Drew there or not Boston is in the finals? Do you think hands down, I think it's a tougher role. But yes, I do agree it's a tougher role. But I agree because Derek White is there, is there acts factor after Brown and Tatum to me lose him in the offseason because they can afford to pay off four all right, Tatum, Tatum wants a big contract. They already gave Holiday a

major contract, all right. Jaylen Brown is breaking the banks. Is breaking the bank. I mean, ain't got enough for White. They don't have enough White unless he takes a big discount. And let's be honest, the White right now is coming off like James Harden did. Like when James Harden was a sixth man over in OKC and showed everybody that he needs to be running a team and a starter of a team. Derek White is on his

way to becoming a superstar. But just a little bit off topic, y'all, bro, you gotta you acting like Derek White is not on the NBA All First Defensive Team. A little bit of off topic though. I watched the Big Three draft. They got a draft. Yeah, it was so off ice Cube teams. Yeah, they they commentary with off they on CBS this year. Yeah they they went to Chicago, but they ain't doing the tour in Chicago this year. It was it was it almost seems I don't

even want to say the word ghetto. Yeah, I c cop then they it was almost like the commentary was like they didn't even know how the show was even gonna go, Like they didn't even plan it out all, but like they didn't get a script for it for the show. It was like they almost like freelance it, like us, Wow, you watched it. I can't believe I watched it because I wanted to see how they draft went draft. I think they just signed people. I ain't so the only team

that said is that just run with it. Look you know what it is though? What so with Big Three, the only team that has to run it back with the same team as the team who wins the whole thing. Other team you can either you can sue the n B A and one. You can drop two players, or you and pick up two players, or you can drop one player and pick up one player. That's how they draft work. So like say, like they got four six people on the team, they can drop two of those and then pick up two in the draft.

I know we're talking about that. The only reason I watched it, and what made me really watch it was Larry Sanders. He playing in the Big Three. He played last season too. He's a ren protector, that's it. And I've seen him fow somebody real hard. So that's what made me watch it. So I watched that referees or they call their own call horse. So I watched that clip of him put I watched the clip of him pushing somebody out the air, right, And that's how I got to

the draft. So you watched it because you love violence. No, I wanted to know why. I didn't understand why. I couldn't figure out why you push dude out? They are like that. I just know that Number one. They used to do like a tour they still doing a tour, but their goal is to have a league where they travel to each city that they have a team in, which is very injurying. I didn't know they sue the NBA either. Yeah, they sue them because NBA tried to kind

of muscle them out of some some advertising. But uh, like they would cut off retired players from going there. Yep, like you know how they play like you you don't get you don't get your pension if you go play basketball, if you go play the Big Three specifically, they they're not. They didn't letting that ride. So I was like, huh so, no, players that retire can't go play the Big now they disagree with they actually Big Three won? Yeah. Uh well, this NBA Finals determined who's the

new face of the NBA. No, No, the the stars were hurt. Nothing else left to be said. You mean to tell me real quick? You mean to tell me if let's say to Boston. So just winning the NBA Finals, Jason Tatum is not the new face in the NBA as long as Lebron Giannis and Steph are playing in this game, they're not even No, I'm gonna stick with my note. Luca maybe because Luca was a finalist for MVP Top three. Luca has the best, say Jayalen Brown.

I don't think it makes him the face. I think it makes him finally earn that big old paycheck he's getting. I don't think nobody who's going to the finals can be the face of the league Luca. They can be highly advertised, but to be the face. I don't see that type of generational talent out of anybody going to the finals. Luca, Luca, Lucas decent. I ain't gonna lie Lucas good, but he's European at the end of the day. That means why he's gonna be the face. So is Joker,

so is Gianni's. But they're not the face of the league right now. Yes, it's still in the hands of Bron and currying them. I agree it has Jokers. The baton has not been passed. If you look think about it, like we knew one the baton was pasted to Kobe. We knew when the baton was past Lebron. We knew when the baton was pastor Jordans. We knew that you know you. We don't know that though, So people are saying that Joker. First of all, just okay,

I answer your question. I ask the question, are you when I say, because we had this discussion before, about the long discussion, long discussion, and why not you need to tell me who is to you? Who is the face of the league right now? Lebron James, Lebron James, one, don't tap dance out of it. Who's the face of the league right now? Lebron? Still all right? Cool? Joker? Mm hmm the face? Yes, no, he's not the face ship. But remember what I said, and I'm on, hold on, I'm only picking up

one because you said so. But remember I told you there are faces of the league. It's not just one thing is like is Lebron, Staff is Joker? Is Yiannis? So my thing is Luca? Who what makes you the face? Like? What what are the qualifications that make you the face TV time? You mean selling tickets? We've already went through. Let's not do this again, bro, I think we have to do it again.

I think that you we never went over what the what the qualification? Because we all had three very different different things to say, and y'all were jumping down my throat talking about it ain't just about economics. I said, it's absolutely about economics. Economics is on there. I will put equal equal economics, economics is on there, economic impact is I will give you that.

But my thing about that is this, you can't be those Winning is a big part of it because if you're not winning, how can you be the face? Because if that's the case, LaMelo Ball is the face. Because these young kids are teen and between teen and fifteen, sixteen years old,

LaMelo LaMelo is the best player. You've seen him with that behind the back popular Okay, I get that, But at the end of the day, when it bails down to it. From age five to fifty, you know who Lebron James is, you know who Steph Curry is, you know who is you know who Luke is, you might know who Joker is, and you might know who you might might cac Every time when you're in that five to hold on in the five to ten, in that age of five to

twelve, they don't look at Luca and Joker them like you think they do. People look at people. I'm telling you, and I went to my just and what made me realize is I went to my kids presentation. M hmm, and all of the boys in his closet, the presentation on athletes, right of course, and either they picked Kobe or Lebron. My son picked Lebron, not Brook. I'm surprised, listen. I didn't help him with that at all. Lebron he did all of that on his own.

I didn't even know who his person was. I've heard him talk about it every now and again, but I never really grasp that that's who he was doing his whole presentation on Preston. You get to go to the Lebron game with me next year when he comes, so you can have daddy's ticket. That's fine. I'm sorry you have ticket because he's grounded until he comes to an average. But that just goes to show me that Lebron is still the face because Kobe is not here too. Is that popularity? Like said,

but he has the biggest economic impact. So all the faces of the n B A I don't need to I don't need you, but hold but even going to our even going to the fact that thinking about us a basketball who are they going to talk about the most Steph Curry and Lebron When you go to Jersey sales, who has the most sales Lebron and Curry. When you go to shoe sales right now, outside of Jordan's, we're not gonna say

Jordan's because that's different. I got pass for the USA game and I only want to see and that's a whole that's a whole new era in itself, the Jordan's. But outside of outside of Lamellos, the Brons and Curry sell outs to well, there's a lot of there's a lot of different criterias and wet but we have to acknowledge that Luca is a face of this sport.

And if he wins, lucas getting all the covers. He's getting the video game cover, He's getting the Sports Illustrated cover, and you better make sure bet your list dollar that they will find a way to get Luca that MVP next season. Let him win it this year. Let him win it this

year. They're already they already got a Christmas game coming, They already got a Christmas Day game coming, right because they won the Western Conference, right, Luca is already one of the leading vote getters in the All Star Game. He has more prime time games than any other European player out there, including Luca. Okay, so if anybody has a chance to be the face after this. If Boston wins, I don't think they're a face. You

know why, why Because they're boring. What they're boring to watch compared to Luca and Dallas. Lucas a cry baby, but Boston is boring to watch. Boston is born to because they ain't playing about this playoffs. I'm not gonna hold you they didn't play. Anybody play If you want somebody to pay attention. If they lost, if they went to Game seven with Cleveland, we all be watching. If they went the game six with Indiana, and we all be watching. But because they boring, because they blew them out.

I don't want to say boring. I think it is a little extreme as far as the face goes very interesting. I just feel like I feel like Luca. I feel like Luca will be the face. And I feel like if Boston wins, it depends on how they win. If Jason Tatum, if he takes if he takes a strive where he undeniably is the best player on the court, I think you're gonna see something there. I think you're gonna see the NBA really pushing for him to be the next guy up.

I mean he can be. But at the end of the day, right now, until Bron and Steph retired, they're the faces the face. But here's the thing about that. Here's the thing about them being the face. I will agree with you that they are the most popular. And if you ask somebody who, if you ask a woman, hey, do you know who Lebron? They know who Lebron James is. They know who Steph Curry is. If they in Milwaukee, they know who Giannis is the most like we're in Milwaukee. If you go to cala, if you go to

California, you be like, yeah, I know Jannis. I want him in LA. What do you smoke it? They want him in LA. In New York, these are from basketball perspectives. They don't act like they want him in Both of those act like I can't go to New York and find ten people who'll be like, yeah, I'll pick Mellow over Bro. No, he gets more chairs than the next I'll the fans be waiting for the game to be over to shower Jannis, what are you talking about?

What I'm saying is this, And then Janis is Flowers. You don't want to try to kick his brother off the team and piss him off. But you want to give his flyer's business, that's business, defan of me. You can get your flowers with popularity. What you take Janni's on your knicks? Chrassey would Okay, okay, we're talking about faces of the league. One and top the top five selling jerseys. Jason Tatum, well number one of Steph. After that it's Jason Tatum, then after that is Lebron James

and then it's Victor Those were the top selling jerseys. But that's crazy though, a year twenty twenty two and what you're someone that brought it up. This is my fault, my fault. You know what that brought this Your even brought his family here. They're talking about my son didn't report. Yeah, I didn't even break his bloodline. It bro what it was about raising him wrong. It was an honest truth talking about facing the league though.

We whether you want to admit it or not, he's the face I just so the top selling jerseys this year, which also makes you the face that's a part of it. Don't act like that's the face. You just popular. You just popular. So I forget eat the top five you ready Steph Curry number one, Lebron number two, Tatum number three, Victor number four, Johannis number five, and number six. We'll just stop at six.

Is Luca okay? So all of those in their own rights. Joker is thirteen, so fine, I'll go through them seven through eleven, Booker eight, Kevin Durant nine, Dame Lillard ten, Tyrese, Maxey eleven, Moran eleven, Moran, dude, the YNG kids love Maxi twelve, Embid thirteen, Joker fourteen, LaMelo fifteen. Brunt said, but here's what's interesting, though, if you go down to the top selling team, Oh, of course it's gonna be Lakers number one. The Lakers. Number two is Boston.

Number three is Golden State. Number four is the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, we support our teams, but we don't. We were hats and you yeah, so you got a Chicken. I even realized you you had a Chicago White Sox. They played this weekend too, when the Brewers won three games to the don't do that. My point is not a Yankee, so you can't say it. Go with the fit. Oh yeah, it's not a Dodgers. You could you could maybe even do a dog you heard, you heard what you heard what Jay said, you heard what Jiga said.

Jordan's black hat, black shirt, black What are you talking about? Tom O l A. Compton? Oh and you have brow Ice Gill, but we played. If you're gonna go that round Toime, I put on some chucks too. You should have. You should have, and you might as well two step with it, not like work off topic. Hear. My thing is we didn't talk about the face. We did talking about it. We did talk about numerous of ways you can say the face. Lebron James

be in the face. I don't know if he's the face anymore. Honestly, feel like he's just the most popular person in the league, and you had to be. You gotta be deaf, blind and almost stupid to not know who Lebron James is. He's been doing it for twenty years now. Steph Curry, Lebron James, KB, They're part of a class that is slowly but surely fade in a way. I agree. So you can't,

you can't. I don't want want to say you can't. Even That's why when they come out with it, they come out with two lists every year. The number one ranked player or the top ten or top twenty five, top fifty. They come up with rankings every year and then it comes with the under twenty five, top twenty five, under twenty five. Number one for the last consecutive maybe like two three years, maybe even four years, long as he's been in the league. Actually honestly has been Luca. There's

been number one been Luca. Number two is either Ben Tatum. If the Tatum's not number two, he's been number three, he's been number He's in that top five. So we're talking about two guys who are in the top five under twenty five, and then we're also talking about two guys who are also in the rankings of top ten of being the best players in the league. So that's why I brought this topic up. But I just for you to bring up Curry and Lebron. I think they're the most popular. I

don't know that the faces of the league. That's just mine. Faces of the league still, regardless of how you look at it, and if you really want to get get jiggy with it. Yeah, and the commentator who don't bring up Broun in any conversation and final and not even then his finals and he's still getting the conversation. I know the feeling. So it is what it is. I mean, Lebron know how to get talked about. I give him that. This podcast you telling, I don't care if you

like it or not. That is what I say to that I watch. I watched two things every morning, well almost every morning. First take and uh, what's the what's your storf with Greenee? Come on with who with Greenie? Mike Greenee part no interruption? Get up, get up, get up, get up? In first take? Now, here's the thing about that number one. You always got to talk about three teams. Los Angeles Lakers the Dallas Cowboys. Those are the two teams you always have to bring

up the matter, what the situation is, what's going on. You always have to bring those two takes. I can't wait to see. Yeah, I can't wait to y'all lose. I'm see how much love Jordan Love gonna be getting for his sophomore season alone. I got the fifth party schedule this year. They and the Bears is gonna this is it? You know now the Bears. We will ever own the Bears. So uh, let's go

Championship predictions and then finals MVP predictions. I am going to preface and don't interrupt me QUI beating around it, but just let mere gonn tap dance. Let me make my stakes. Gonna let me tap dance. I don't tap dance. I feel the disc can go either way. There you go all time, New Years tap dance, Then you go either way. But I am picking. I'm gonna say this. If they don't get it done this year, they Jason Tatum will never win a title. I'm going with the

Boston Celtics and seven. I think this series has the potential to go the long haul, and I think home court's going to matter. So I'm going with Boston in six or seven and the MVP. I am going to give it to Jason Tape mm hmmm, kc mm hmmm. Let me see it. Ain't that ain't easy because it can go either way. Kandy Keys go either way. Championship editions and about bomb mm hmm, take good time. I'm going with Dallas in finals, MVP, hold on how many games?

I'll go with Dallas in six? Matter of fact, Dallas in five? What I'll let you rock with that. I just don't I don't see Boston prepared for them. Wow. And I see Finals MVP Kyrie Irving. Wow. Okay, both of those are stupid, but you see Kyrie getting that over Luca. Yeah, wow. I don't dislike it. I don't dislike If I can I say this case before you continue, I'm I picked Boston because I'm cheering for Holiday, but I wouldn't mind seeing Kyrie get a second

one. Keeping it real, I wouldn't mind I see Kyrie doing it is because Kyrie got a weight on his shoulder. He gotta get off. And I see Kyrie coming in with a different mentality than everybody else that's on the floor that they don't have because Tatum hasn't won one yet, Brown in them hasn't one one one yet, Luca hasn't won one yet. So the one person who got the finals experience outside of him is Drew, and Drew won't mas Kyrie's energy when it comes to putting on a performance in the finals.

Kyrie's gonna put on a performance that we've never seen before. Hmm, because nobody is expecting that. Everybody's expecting who Luca Luca? So if you're Dallas, I'm coming into the series thinking Kyrie is yours, your show. You take us home, Lucas, Luca that we rolle Luca all the way here, take us home. The same thing with Lebron. Lebron rolled us all the way there. Kyrie got to the finals and he took over. He put them on his back. But they gave the finals to Bron because he

Bron. But if you think about the most impactful person of that series when they won against Golden State, it was Kyrie. It was Lebron's me. But I mean, Lebron did his part, but Lebron commands so much attention that Kyrie kind of got hid off in the court. So what do you think is gonna happen with this? With Luca? Lucas want to get that same attention Bron got. I will give you that. I agree with that.

They're gonna know Kyrie can do his thing, But at the same time, they're like, we don't want Luca to get off, So Luca's gonna look at it like Kyrie, Do your think he don't mind that? Mm hmm. I'm going with I'm going with Dallas and seven and I think that m v P is they're gonna give it to Luca and they're gonna push for him to be that guy the face and I think it's but I'm going with Dallas, and I'm going with Dallas and seven just because I don't want to

see Boston win I don't want to see Drew win another one. I don't want to see Tatum winning one. I don't want to see Boston in general win one. I don't want to see it. So I'm going with so much, I don't care Dallas. Listen, Dallas unarrival Now. I hate Indiana. We changed rivals so much. I'm ain't gonna get because we only played one series against it, Dallas. We have Boston and Miami. Those

are the two teams we see in a consistent basis, our kryptonite. Those are the two teams's on a consistent basis, though they kind of go back and forth. And just so y'all are aware, in the two games they played this season, Boston won both decisively. This is that's before the trade decisive. No, these were both in January. This is before trade deadline. But the trade happened in February, did it, Zeke? I think you made that up, bro. That trade did not happen in January.

I think it did no what trade trade deadlines in February for PG right before, right before. Also they got PJ right before. Yeah, so they beat them. The Celtics won one thirty eight to one ten on March first, so the trade happened, okay. And then they also beat them on January twenty second, my mother's birthday, one nineteen to one ten, and the Mavericks roster included to your point, that was before the trade. So

before the trade they had their original roster. They were twenty four to nineteen. They lost one ten one nineteen. They picked up Graphic and PJ Washington and lost worse and lost worse. It was finding a chemistry. They found a stride at the end of the season, right when they needed it, one thirty eight to one ten. Luca played. I mean, we both know the sea. Those seasonal matches really don't mean anything. Let's not let's not go there. Let's not go there. I'm not let's not go so

but like I said, Luca scored a night. He had a bad game. Nineteen. Kyrie had no Luca had thirty seven points. Luke had a triple double thirty seven to twelve and eleven. So all I'm saying is after regular season is any indication. Let's not act like your sweet Let's not act like Boston's not getting ready to come and bring the A game. That's what astin thinking. They coming in, They thinking we're gonna beat them. I don't think so. I think Boston losing to Miami last year, Boston is

a little more seasoned season, but they're they're I don't. I don't get ego from Boston. I got ego from Indiana, I got ego from Phoenix, and I'll be honest, I get a little ego from the Lakers. I don't get that from Boston. I don't get ego from I think Boston has really nonchalantly because they they they beat every team, and they beat every team very well. So I just give really like and I mean, I will say there's one person that's what we want to watch out for, Jaylen

Brown. I don't. I don't like to tap dance around this, but if Boston were to pull it out, I could see Jaylen Brown being the reason. Why not Jason Tatum doesn't matter as long as they get a ring could be. But I see Dallas and six. I ain't gonna lie Dallas tell them what she got you on the way in on this one. You don't care, That's what I told my people. I don't really care who wins, but I am. I do want to see how they get one. What Bucks fans? We are not interested in this series, are we?

Kisi? We'll watch it because it's the NBA, but we are not sitting here with signs cheering. I'm wearing Bucks hats every game I'm watching. Oh god, I mean with this episode. Oh yeah, Finals, MVP Luca, but Luca before we get into before we get into small Bucks talking. We've been all over the place. So I just wanted to throw this out there too, uh telling you want to go ahead and play the clips? That topic going on right now? Kate and Clark says she got cheap

shot at against the Sky. I mean throughout the season, she's been getting beat up, hard, screens, elbows, knockdown. It is what it is. She's not the first, she won't be the last. My issue with my question is where the fuck are her teammates at? Where y'all at, where the rest of the INDIANAF. I've seen a couple of girls smirk when she's got knocked down half ass to pick her up like y'all supposed to protect the asset, protect the star and all. This is the team.

She's the star. You always protect your star. I was someone who protected the stars. You fuck with cob cp blake list goes on. I'm it's gonna be a problem because you got to supposed to be a family. And you wonder why you sit at the bottom of the league right now because y'all don't protect each other. Man, coach, don't do shit about it, players don't shoot do it about y'all should be ashamed of it. But the rest of league is going to continue to test her, and that's what they're

supposed to do. It's she got fucking job to have her back and have each other's back. Gotta do better, Ladies's in one thousand and one, Why I don't watch the WB Why who cares for one? Really quick? Hold on really quickly? Never almost want to address this real quick, address it, address it, address it. So you don't like women's basketball, I have never I have not watched it. So I don't like women's basketball. But I have not watched the w NBA game in years. Jesus doesn't

make me a sexist. It doesn't make me anything. I just don't like it. So does not going to hockey games make you a racist? Yeah, I'll take that. The only black person in the building. That's a lie. I'm gonna get to the point and quick and fast about this. It's a little bit of Envynus in there, yep. Selfish, a little bit of hatred, selfish, a little bit of animosity. Animosity. First off, the other teams are supposed to do that time. He said that

he was totally but that was a dirty play. He was spot on the dirty playing they've done. They've been doing everybody like that and if you watch it. I've watched w may girls. Some of them be just as tough as something. They've upgraded it to a flagrant one and they got fined five thousand dollars for it. Who did the girl that did it to Kaitlin? Yes she did, but listen, but her team got fined five thousand dollars,

a team and a the person got fined a thousand. Yeah. I know, so that Angel Reid. But my thing is, though, shut up listen and Angel reachemen taking some hits too. I've been watching her too, So what ain't just Caitlin. So if they're gonna talk about her, they need to talk about all Angel Reese as well, because Angel Reeves got I seen her get elbowed in the forehead. So one of my friends challenged

me today and I went through with the challenge. He said, he said, everybody, I need for y'all to support women's sports and buy a w NBA League pass. It's only thirty five dollars a year. And I said, you know what, I probably should do that because I was sitting next to a w NBA superstar. I didn't even know it, and right now she's number one in scoring in the w NBA. I told you she was good. I didn't deny. I just said I didn't know them. I'm saying I tried to tell you, I don't want to. I was like,

remember when I'm buying the league past. So when we sat next to her, I'm telling him like she's good, good, like you know, be like she's good. And her brother was on the NFL team sitting next to it, right, No, not him, not that wasn't him. No, okay, but we gay he's that business from racing she played for w uh uh. She went to d s h A, Yes, Divine savorit, Holy Angels, she was a problem, Yeah she is. She's

a problem now. She holds every wisconscinle record for women's basketball. He's a problem now, and she's a problem in the w n B A, and she was a problem when she was at So I have a Yeah, Tennessee, I'm gonna have a w n B A league past. It's only thirty five bucks. I'm a support. I'm a support because because he I'm sorry, because he also made a comment he said, if you enjoyed the NBA before the evolution of the three point shot, you would really enjoy the w

n B A. Cap WHOA, I'm not gonna lie to you. I watched w n B A. It's put popping in. It's a mixture of pop culture and what's going on in sports and stuff like that, so on and so forth. It's the same rea. I watched the w n A for the same reason I watched the uf L. There's nothing else on. Sorry, there's nothing else on. So I like the w n B A because but I just want, I want I put this post this clip because

I did think it was interesting. Number A couple of things. Like you said before, I do think I don't think it's as many as we think, but I do think there's some some of those feelings, some mvs, all those feelings are in there in the NBA. And I remember before the first season starts, you went on your little rant about the w NBA. You went on You're talking about how why is Kaitlyn getting all this spotlight and so on and so forth when they have been w NBA playing the league and

balling out before this or whatever. And I, like I said before, I do think her being Caucasian does have a little bit to do with it. But the thing about Kaitlyn Clark and I think this is but I've heard so many different angles from this, and one angle I heard from this was this is the same kind of stuff that Lebron James had to go through when he first got into the league. Nobody beat up n James. Anybody beat up Lebron Jay because he was too big. Wh when he first went to

Cleveland was what were they saying, Who is this dude? Why is he getting all this love? Such and such and such? Same thing with Jordan when he first came. But the thing about it is when you first when you have a lot of hype going into the NBA. But they're all but they're always okay, you can go over the whole roster. But the point is that there was a lot of there's been a lot of talk about these guys when they first into the LEADU, especially because you're getting a lot of

hype Andy and and that too. But it's one of them things where like I just I watched the whole game yesterday and they and I've watched a couple of games. Kayln Clark has been a part and they do be on top of her, like why don't Rice? I don't like that her team does not defend her. I hate that. But the thing about this, I don't think it's a rookie Hayes and I think they're They're not even used to

a teammate having this type of behavior towards her. So you can't say, well, you're supposed to jump on the teen y'all family and the NBA we're used to that. Like you go into like Matthew Barnes, Matt Barnes, you're an enforcer. Nobody had to tell him he's an enforcer, but he knew he was an enforcer, and Kennedy Carter said after she was fine, she said, side street points shooting. What else does she bring to the table, And that's number one? Number two, She's like, I don't

even want to talk about. She got fine, she got fined. Her and Andreurie got fined because they want to talk to the press afterwords. And Kaitlyn Clark's stats are better than hers to see, Kaylen Clark has has some nice stats. She has some horrible stats, but you have some nice stats. Sixteen and she's starting and she's starting to come around. So I just find it. I thought that was very interesting thing that Kayln Kark is getting. I don't think it's so. I don't think it's a hate thing.

How long before how long before this becomes a race issue? It's not a race issue. I'll never be there, I think exactly. I think I think this is more of a situation where nobody has ever nobody has ever come into the league, and with this much hype in the w NBA before, no matter how many great care on, knowing how many players they've had greater than her, no one's coming to this much hype, maya more. None of them have never come in with this much hype, and that's a little

bit of the time she got. So she got a lot to prove she do, and she's balling. And if she's not capable of putting on the show like she did in college, she's going to the window. I don't I don't think that she will do window. I think she'll be fine. I just think she's gonna tap it, toughen up, get a little bigger, and get some thicker skin. She cried when she got home. I

bet I don't think so. I mean, you would say that you don't like when it's basketball twenty one man and everybody has feelings, even the toughest person. We shall see. We shall see. Before we get about of here. Going to the Bucks talk. The New Orleans Pelicans are going to trade brandon Ingram. They consider in a lot of Eastern Conference team. Should the Bucks put their hat in the ring? We don't have no assets. That's something that asks you, of course we should. Why wouldn't we?

Of course? But the only person that we could probably only give up for him is Chris Middleton, Christ Middleton, Jay Crowder Brook low fast, j Crowder, Jay crowded resigned. I heard bow Champ I said it. I heard. I heard Chris Middleton's requested the trade. I heard that too, But it did not come from an actual, viable source. It came from one of those opinionated tetes. There wasn't a blue check. Yeah, it wasn't from Woes, it wasn't from Sham, it wasn't from stephen A.

It was from one of those uh opinionated tweets. I hope it's true. I hope it's true because he can go. I'll take Ingram for Brook and Chris Middleton. I'll take them, really, yes, for both. That's too much for him. That's a lot. We gave up seven players for Jay Crowder. We mean we gave up seven players. Gave up two players in five second round draft picks, seven players. Five of those players probably wouldn't even be good enough to make the roster. Five of them wouldn't.

It really wouldn't so two if that we gave up the kitchen sing for Dame, he's dang. I don't know what we've been sitting. Are We still be at home whether we make that trade or not. Chris Middleton and Brandon Ingram are not a tip for that trading it is. It is Tiff attack

Christ which Middleton is a better shooter, Chris Middleton's a better shooter. Both on the injury all the time, branded like you don't care sometimes like I think he'd be coming to the game high if anything to help his career out, remain focused. Then will keep him Brook. No, that's crazy. You can't send Brook for Ingram for Ingram Brook, because who's gonna The only reason I'm saying for Middleton is because he would take Middleton's spot from the starting

lineup. Play the five. He's seven foot, he's Ingram. He's a small forward, Brandon Ingram seven. But somebody like Anthony Davis, somebody like Anthony Davis, somebody like Anthony Davis just think of it like this long length. But he doesn't have the body to stay somewhere near I think you haven't confused. Some follow out that game. He don't even have an attitude of team. Play the five every game, every game. I think he made one All Star All Star team. Randon Ingram is okay, he's not quite

sex sixteen. He's sixty six nine. Okay, he's six' nine. Okay, I stayed correct. In what position you play it doesn't say here. But I mean, I'm not saying, y'all not wrong. You played the small for he played small four. I thought he played the five because I always see him playing next to Zion, and he's always the man in the middle. He's always guard in the center. That's why I assume he played the five. Ingram is play the middle, Yes, he does.

Bro. When he played us, he was on Brook got the bad attention a little more than you did. No. No, you played the small four where he got switched off on Brook quite a few times. But okay, fine, switch off. I reason I'm offering up Brook because we need to get younger, and we don't get younger. But my thing is who going after making a package deal? Bring him in? Valgowski's over here. They play for the same teams in the vow. He's a pretty decent who

is about now? Just call him bow to call him bow? He plays for is how you're said. I ain't gonna try to say that. I'm gonna make myself a little more horrible than my man's over here. But making the package deal, just take the al, don't bring it down with you,

just take down. Make it the package deal. Break vow and Ingram over for brook in Middletown and bow Champ because they're gonna have to give up something else, bow Champ just to win over bow Champ get rid of him because they gonna want something young a a time just for them making the trade him a future drive bow cham just because Ingram is is younger than Chris. But Chris is a better score and shooter. Facts if he plays, If

he plays, that's the thing. If he plays. But you said Ingram's pretty injury prone too, is Look, then why would we want that? Because a lot of centers at court because younger. He's just a little bit younger. If he's injury pron I don't know if I want that here because Dame is injury prone and should we said one thing about but one thing about Ingram. Though he can score, he can when he plays, he can score when when he plays, when he plays, He's like Middleton. They

can play when they play when they play twenty five. But but the minute you scratch him on the elbow, they out for six weeks. And like I said, is to me for me, it's effort for Ingram because his he'd be strained. Strange, It's just maybe he need to get around somebody with a mentality like honest, that's what I'm saying. That works hard. I'm saying if he can, Milwaukee would be better for his career long jepards. He doesn't have anybody in New Orleans with that type of young pedigree taking.

Zion is still over there taking down porn stars and Instagram models and eating sandwiches and you know what I'm saying, and playing the game, just a stack of sandwiches and gumbo sitting next to him, and only bet they got a C. J. McCullum and listening in. I was just gonna say that, and they ain't listening to him. They like, you just got over here, bro, just take a seat. You're supposed to be quiet. So but yeah, so I just want to get that out there,

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