Thank you see that. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, casts and dolls. Welcome to another episode of ninety four feet podcast It's your boy, big Zeke in the building. I'mna here with my brother Dre. What's good? Everybody? Happened to be back with y'all on another episode of the of the ninety four feet podcasts. Also here my brother Dre. I mean kiss, what's good? Good people? It's good to be in the building to day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How's it going, fellas?
It's good man. You know, it's hold outside, but it's good. It's chilling. That's it's not bad. It could be worse. This is what's kinds of it could be worth every time. I like, it's cold in June, like it could be worse. It could be, but it also could be seventy five. Yeah, I'm happy it's not seventy five for other reasons we discussed off the mic. Don't need to get into it, but uh, I'm happy about that. Yeah, um, let's go ahead and get started. Uh. Injury report, no injuries, no excuses,
but okay, I mean you was taking your sweet time. I mean I wasn't sure. I mean, I mean it's it's in the things. It's in the things. This is Isaiah Moore in the ninety four podcast David Ruffling. Am I going to see you out this. Everybody's covering to listen to me. No injuries, no excuses, no right, very much. Now this is not on This is not on the docket. But it was in the news, NBA news. We ain't TMZ, but we're here for the NBA drama off the court and on and it's not gossip. Okay.
Now, it was I little like, okay, all right. I was like, okay, boy, look at this time of the season, whatever we grasping at straws. At this time of the season, we are grasping at straws. So whatever we can get we will take. Zion Williams announced his UH baby girl with his UH. I said, I guess girlfriend. UM. I do not know her name or not familiar with her. Um.
Apparently she is very popular amongst IG models so um. And once he announced this uh arrival of his new baby, there was uh a woman, another woman that Zion was dealing with, who was very upset about this. Now she is a little bit more familiar with me and other millions of gentlemen. Some women too. We don't discriminate here. She is a porn star name Mariah Mills. I'm not familiar with that name, but hey, yeah, sure you're not. Anyways, she used to be an Instagram model.
No no, no, no, no girl his girl. No no, no, Mariah Mills used to be a big time Instagram model. You sure she used to be a big time Instagram model. She got she used to be. I saw her on one of those talk shows where they called her in the audience like a question and they asked her what she did. She said, she's an Instagram model. So but I did see that come across the feed that she went on a Twitter ran. So she went on Twitter rand talking about Zion how he did her ball? Guess how he did her
wrong. He didn't tell her about the baby on the way, and she was the one hyped him up. She warned him about women like this, blah blah blah blah blah blah. But how you warning him about something he already want it? Probably it made so I'm glad you brought that up. Is I think there's a hierarchy here that we, you know, we don't pay attention to, like I'm gonna say women are women, but women are
women, and but some there's a hierarchy here. And as gentlemen, like I said before, we talk about NBA stuff on and off the court. It's gonna bring this up real quick. I g model versus porn star, real quick. Who has the hierarchy of this situation? None of the situation, just in general your perspective really quickly, Drey, you knew her as
an IgM. I don't want you to start us all. I think the awkward silent moment from both of us and situated the fact that we're gonna waste air time talking about which is I said, real quick, neither of them have a hierarchy. They're both each other's side chicks. They should be happy that Zion is gonna be paying them both. He's not paying nobody. He's gonna pay well, baby, he gonna back. But what I'm saying is this what I'm saying. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is this.
What I'm saying is this hierarchy. I mean hierarchy like, oh, who dude gets look, get a little bit more respect. I mean, honestly, if you a side chick, now side check. Don't say keep saying side check, neither one. Well, if what is a girlfriend? If what is the girlfriend his side check? You google Zion Williams and the story that pop up is Scion side chick is upset? Upset. Okay, if you're a side chick, you knew you were a side chick. She
didn't know she was. She didn't know she was. Come on, bro, come on, bro, this we're talking about millionaires. If if she talking about she tried to she tried to warn you. She knew something. Yes, she tried to worry about girls like this. She said, you had a baby on me. She had slipt on Twitter and she posted a screenshot of Zion saying how much do I have to pay you to be here? She knew she was a side chick. That's different. No, that's
different. No different, nobody. I mean we see. Let me just in my comments so we could pass on talk about basketball. This is another episode of an angry side chick this man, because now she looked like the stupid one. Okay, you knew this man wasn't gonna leave you for his chick. You were his side chick. You're an adult film star who no judgment, he has a chick in your in your porn star. Come on, he was likely fulfilling the fantasy sor are you putting? Are you putting
the ig model over the side over the porn star? This is whatever Zion wants to do is just gonna cost him money. It's gonna cost him his reputation, It's gonna cost them money. So whatever he wants, I don't even care. I thank you, Casey, thank you said no, no, I'm letty, no, I'm asking you. Are you putting the porn star over the ig mine order I g model over the porn star. They're both in the cycle back. That's it. That's it. You know what
I mean? Women are probably gonna pop up now because because most ig models got only fans, and most porn stars that's the only fans. That's it. So I mean, that's all in the same cycling back. That's it. They just keep on getting passed around, that's it. I mean, Kardashian, she's on like her fifth NBA player, right. Scottie Pippen's wife is Dayton, Scottie her nephew. And you know what I'm saying, Come
on, man, come on and let's be honest. Unfortunately, when situations happened like this, how many more women you think for the pop up? Actually another one did pop Yeah, another one. I'm gonna do. Zion flew me out, Zion floor out. She took pictures of them. I mean, Zion been slipping since dude. But well, well, won't get it. We won't get into that single. Well he was, uh, listen, Zion is a young man with money and he's doing everything else and
stuff of playing basketball. That's everything else. Anyways, all right, let's move on. By the way, this is who's a nasty I'm gonna leave alone. He's living a tree. Anyways, move on. I sent me on as long as he takes care of his kids. With um and other NBA news, other Toronto Raptors have hired former Memphis Grizzlies assistant. It was a dark old ran scoutsky. They hired something like dude and I I felt
bad for Memphis, I mean, not Memphis, but Toronto. Um. Apparently they think he can either do help with a rebuild depend if they want to keep their core, or he thinks that they can also help the core move to a different level. Um, we didn't really we kind of touched on this last week, but like the coach, the coaching carousale, number one they lost um and number two UM. I understand people getting opportunities, but it's just like y' y'all was better off with Nick Nurse. Yeah,
I was really better off with Nick Nurse. If this is the best y'all can do. And that's the thing about the NBA. They give a lot of people opportunities and chances and no more. I'm starting to see there's no more legendary coaches, but we're also running out of legendary players, and I think we're coming to We're coming to a very very dark ages in the NBA. Low key, low key, We're coming to the dark ages of the nbages because after Lebron retires and Steph is pretty close, who was up?
We got who k they is also in that rum of retiring in a couple of years, Luca Joker, I mean, but that's who. But these guys aren't delivering. These aren't delivering. So it's cool to have the name, but these guys aren't delivering. I can say Jason Tatum and you see what happened with him. We listen, we already talked about this three weeks ago, how there's only been six teams winning winning titles the last twenty years.
Let's not act like this is different. But to get to your point, your question, when Toronto hired the coach, I had a KISSI moment. I said, who we all did? I said, what we? Toronto hired him because Toronto is entering a rebuild. They need a fall guy. Toy'll give them two or three years and he'll be out of there. Toronto got Let's not act like they got lucky with picking up Kawhi Leonard. Anyway. They still have a nice core. They're okay, they have a
nice core, and they have some young guys. So that's why I was kind of like puzzled a little bit. But it is what it is. He's what you think about that pick up bro Um lost for a second. I was looking at something, reading something that's coming up next. He was looking at the pictures, remember what, Yeah, you're pregatively. Oh come on, man, let's look it up right up. So I don't living his life gonna all right, all right, I don't even know that help
at all. You're doing everything but playing basketball. I don't even think I don't even think I remember hearing this name even when he was in Memphis. To be honest with you, either, but I mean you passed like but still not coaching. Dan Tony's not coaching, Mark Jackson not coaching and coaching are coaching? Well, this seems like the new era is let's try something
new and see what happens. Steve Nash isn't coaching j J. And the thinking about like I was saying Kesey legend, we're running out of legendary coaches. Legendary, but they've been going, they've been leaving. It's still some. It's still some really good coach. I know what it is because we have a dude, Um the guy used to coach for Dallas. I forgot his name. No, he still coaches. He coaches for the basers. Is he a head coach? Yes, well I'm looking where he at.
Um Monti Williams got paid seventy eight million for a reason. Manti Williams got paid because De Trey wasn't bringing nobody else to De Troy. But my point is, no, there we're running out of legendary coaches. But do you know why that is? You call Manti legendary. Say legendary, it's a good coach. I'll say good players now don't have the respect they used to for a coach. That's true too. That's the problem it is everybody think it's the coach Faud. Oh, it's the coach Fauld, it's the coach
Fard. And then on top of that, everybody not taking accountability for their parts and why things don't go right and why they don't win their championships. If I'm making a hundred and if I'm making I'm sorry. If I'm making two hundred and fifty million dollars, I don't have to listen to you, but I'm gonna tell you like this. I think all these assistant coaches getting hired represents the era of the rebuild. Our Milwaukee Bucks included, because we
can try to see how everybody rebuilding. Who if you're hiring assistant coaches as your head coaches, you don't have a lot of hope right now. You have a lot of hope right now. That's not the case with us. Well keep watching it. I want to say rebuild word. I just want to say we're looking for some new blood. But moving on, um rumors were Chris Paul Griffin, Brome's gonna just look at it like this. This is what they I'm talking about. You did it all man. You keep
seeing it had a word. Look at it like that, the same look at it like this. Nick Nurse his first year, what he do won the title? Steve Kurr first year, what he do second year, second year. But I'm saying, yeah, you get it, I get it. So I mean Steve kurt didn't, wasn't an assistant coach. Steve was Nick Nurse, well, first of all, was he was in San Antonio,
he was the GM he was not. Oh yeah, here's the thing about that, though, those two situations when you walk you're when you're those two coaches, whose two guys, especially Steve Kurr, you're walking into a winning situation. Nick Nurse too. That's what those two guys are walking into a winning situation too. Eric rost Uh, you know what happened to him. He was in the video room and he ended up getting the job, and then he got ended up getting Lebron d Wade and Chris pots That had
nothing to do with the coaching. They had to do with the players. And I can coach Lebron James and championship. So you're saying Miami running because the spectrum is because of the players. Yes, no, that's fine. How's it found? It was like, real quick, are you sure you want to go here? Because they're down three one? Well, they're in the championship that no one expected them to be in either. All they did was outwork other guys. That's why he get That's why they down three one.
Eric Sposcher out coached but he didn't. Yeah he did, but but but I'll coached himself. He coached himself out of that job. He did know he coached himself out of the job. I don't want to see. I don't want to sit here and talk about how I'm not giving Spoth no credit because he ain't did nothing since the Brondal, Since Lebron left, they've been to the final Street time and the Bubble. They've been to the final Street time. What happened in the bubble? My thing? You said he'd
been to the final three times? What happened? Because we all talk about this, what happened? And when he got to the finals lost not did they lost they lost badly? Not? Now it's one thing if you lose. Hey, I lost in seven games, Doc Rivers, I lost in seven games. It is what it is. No, you're a loser. So so Greg Popovic is a loser. Where Papa has had some championships, not with Lebron James. I'm talking about with championships like a stop stop what
make no sense? I make no sa. Popovich is won titles with Tim Duncan and the Para believe the greatest power forward ever. David Robins groomed them though I'm not saying that that's not true. Just like that, Yo, Nope, nope, because just like yo, like you said about the Warriors, they were drafted there. He wont Lebron James and chrish Bosh decided to go there after they were who they who they were, and they didn't go
there because Air is supposed to such a good coach. They'll say, dab was like, you want to come may come on, man, let's let's let's win some championships. So don't sit there act like that didn't happen. You know the fact that you are are are criticized as spoke for Miami has had more good seasons than they have bad seasons. They have horrible seasons and not they do not trade. They barely getting in the playoffs, not every year, almost every year. Listen, man, like every time they make
it to the finals. It's a miracle. We like gifts. And next part of that is coaching. Game two, Mike Malone was out coached, Bye bye bye. And then what happened game last, I mean, champions, it's sober Effy's gonna win it all tomorrow night and you know we'll have our go home episode of season. But I told, I told you was gonna happen. They went that game because of coaching. They won that game because they had a lot of energy that night, and they still almost lost.
Who the Heat he wasn't to blow out exactly, But I knew they was gonna win one game. It's over with now, But I'm just saying I knew that's how it was gonna come. That game. I thought Jimmy's gonna get him least one. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Jimmy ain't been good since Boston. And I want to say, I don't know what, I don't even know all those games he was that good. So so the Miami Heat the last season were fifty three and twenty nine. The season before
that, they were forty and thirty to forty four and twenty nine. The Miami Heat the past, let's just do this for the sake of time. The last ten years, they've only been under five hundred twice. Let's see where they where they where they landing in those seasons that you're talking about, because I don't care about you being over five hundred. Where are you land
in the seeding? So and the East is easier? It is. So they won the Eastern Conference Finals this season, lost Eastern Conference Finals last season, lost it in twenty one, uh first round, lost in the finals in twenty lost Eastern Conference Finals in seventeen eighteen, lost in fifteen sixteen. So no, no, no, you're you're proving my point because the past ten years the Miami Heat has had mostly winning seasons, and they have our runs. I want you to take away Lebron seasons. Okay. Lebron left
in fourteen, So left fourteen. He left in fourteen, so that was less than ten years ago, right, Okay, nine years okay, And they've won two, three, four or five six. Eight of the nine seasons they were either in the conference semifinals or conference finals or finals. They only lost in the first round twice in the last eight years. Okay, come on, man, you gotta get nothing. I don't because because you know what's funny, it's always give Spostra something because he's doing what low key
what Bud has been doing. But we honestly it not to cut you off. An argument could be made that the Bucks firing Bud was very reactionary, very reactionary, because the Bucks, although it's been a disappointing two year run in the finals, the Bucks have been winning the last five seasons. They have basketball true basketball heads would say, even though we couldn't stand but it was a little reactionary for him to get fired, let's just keep it up.
But let's just keep it up him. Here's my thing, Like I said before, I said this last week, I'm gonna keep on. Was it not reactionary for them to get rid of Bud? I'm only getting honey, keep it a buck. But asked me answer this though, but one of you the moment who told me on our way out the door of the game that fans are gonna be calling for Bud head of course, because so do you think the Bucks had an obligation to the fans to prove that.
At the end of the day, this is about Yannis and Janice wasn't happy with me, and Yannis wasn't happy with Bud. That's the bottom So here's the thing about that. Here's the thing about that. That's the bottom line. Everything he go out the window. So everything, because remember Brian wanted spost for gone. You remember that he wanted Spost gone when they lost that first year in the final, they were calling for Sposter's head, asking pat
Riley to come back down and coach. And what pat Riley saying, Eric Sposhter is the coach of the Miami Heat exactly. So like what I was going to say was, when you talk about coast culture and when you talk about it's up give the coaching such and such, it's pat Riley who's saying, now I'm gonna let him rock, I'm gonna let Rock. No, No, I'm gonna le him rock. But what about what I'm spos to? Who got into it with Butler or something he got into No, he
got into it with what's his name? And then uh, it was somebody but Butler. Butler got into with somebody and it might have been a coach. Somebody got into it the coach and hassle them. It was Butler and has them kind of bullied him in there, checked them. But it's just one of them. Think it's one of them. Things are like, I'm like, Poster is good, Supposter is good to a point. What's wrong with Hasslm's hair. Well, I see we're gonna all over the place.
I don't care about his hass him here, what he's old Now, I was just gonna say, uh, I'm not I'll give it to more of the pat Riley do give it to the post that's number one, number two. The culture there is dictated by pat Riley. Lebron left because it's not the Lebron show, it's the pat Riley show. And pat Riley let him know that. So it's one of them. Things were like, I'm not gonna give it to pat Eric Strostro when he's been doing what a lot of
these other coaches have been doing. They've been getting fired. I hear you. I just just not whatever. But um moving on. The rumors were Chris Paul. Earlier this week, it was rumors Chris Paul was being waved by the Phoenix Suns. Since then, the rumors have been cleared up and that is false. But the sea, the new CBA is coming up this year and they gotta have to do something with Chris Paul. So my question for you, gentlemen that I'm bringing to the table is what should Phoenix to
do with Chris Paul. Should they release them and resign them? Should they trade them? I don't think this story was fake. I just I think it was. I just know it was by a verified reporter, and even the NBA shared it on NBA dot Com. Even they shared the NBA hold up. NBA doesn't share fake news. It wasn't shared by um Bold. It was not It was not shared by but the NBA shared it on their
website that said X two part ways with Chris Paul. I think Phoenix, I think the story is true, but it came out too early in Phoenix felt embarrassed because they hadn't talked to Chris Paul about it. At the end of the day, I think that Chris Paul will still get waved. I not cut, okay, and they should do just that. Why are we milking Chris Paul? Is old? Some millions of dollars. He's still old thirty, and if you are trying to build a roster around Kevin Durant and
Devin Booker, Chris, you got two years to do it. Chris Paul is the best person. I don't think so. Chris Paul is injury pro. He's never played a full season. In the last what eight or nine season when they lost in the championship, had a good season, he did not play full season. Go back and look at those years. No, we didn't. For first of all, nobody plays eighty two games. As long as you get past six, Chris Paul, we're lucky. If we
can get six, launch you get sixty five, you're good. Chris Paul's best days are behind him. Uh. If I'm Phoenix, I would part ways and I would try to engage in the trade. I've heard they're engaging the Lakers. When I came in for D'Angelo Russell, Chris Paul swap. Don't know what if I'm k d if I want that, because Booker and Russell play at the same position, So don't know what you're gonna do with your point guard. Oh Russell a point guard. Oh Russell is a point.
Dangelo Russell is what your point guard? I'm a good one. I do think it was a good one, decent guard. I think it was a good guy. He's some point guard. He's a good point guard. Could you imagine him? He he's just a streaky shooting I would say, could you imagine him putting up all him bricks next to KD and Devin Fook wouldn't have to put up the many shots with him there. But that's what he's known for. He likes to shoot. So let me ask you this
question. Then, what team in best fits Chris Paul? If he does the side because he said, I'm still pointing. He said, I'm still good brother, y'all wave me in now, I'm gonna get my fift team meal and I'm good up out of here. But I'm still playing on playing a couple of years. So where does Chris Paul go if that's the case, if he can embrace coming off the bench to the Clippers, No, you send to the Lakers to start, or he send them to the Golden
State Warriors to come out the bench. Number one wants to win the title. Now he wants to win the title. I like that though, cool Chris. You can say that you think that if you want to, Chris, I mean, we don't want to be the only one from the Banana Boat cruise along with Melo, not with the title. Carmelo Anthony didn't want to win one like that. Don't see me somewhere. I'm be sitting on the bench looking stupid. Carmelo went to the Lakers to try to win the
title. He didn't get it done. He went to and then I hate to see that did. Here's my thing, Chris Paul is still a capable guard. That's number one, number two. He doesn't need a lot of shots. He rather passed the ball to shoot anyway. Yeah, that's why he fits with the Phoenix Suns. My thing is Boston because they need some leadership Clippers. I don't think he wants to go to Boston. I saw a report that came out and said he would not play for the Boston Celtics.
I can see that too, but I think he should go to Boston. I think he should go to Boston. I would like I don't like the Lakers because that's you've got an old guy with another old guy and a really injury prone guy, which is a d I don't like him with UM. Chris Paul has been on the West coast his whole life. I think it's tipped to come to the East, where's a little bit easier. Um, But Boston the Bucks. Um. I'm trying to think. Who else? Brooklyn? I think you had to do too much in Brooklyn, never
mind, but Boston. Yeah, Boston the Bucks or stay in Phoenix. I don't think you need to go to La. I know you would like the goal of La because it's closer to home, but don't don't come. What do you mean coming walking forward? Yeah? Day? Okay. We also have a Middleton issue, and that would solve it. I don't know about that Middleton man. That's me. Surgery has me worried. But we'll say that for the Bucks talking Paul and Chris Paul him move. I don't
have an inception of chession. My thing is this, don't act like Chris Paul ain't top five, top ten point guard in the league. Right now. I can name six point guards better than him, yea and Steve Greene. Okay, clearly he's number one. Keep going even though he's not a point guard. But we'll have that. We've had an argument Drew Holliday, Okay, take your time. I'm going about to look something up now ahead, do that. In the meantime, top five, top ten point guard
right now. He said he can name six at least six. I say he's top five, top teen right now, Chris Paul, Chris Baul, you're not top ten. He's not name nine like no, James Lillard, Steph Curry, Kyrie Irvin, Drew Holler Day, Fred VanVleet over Chris Paul, Yeah, okay, right now, fred Fred Vanvleek, that's six, right, Haliburt, I read Haliburton, Rea Haliburton in Indiana betterse Wallin as good as y'all as he was. Were you thinking about the old Chris Paul?
You think, Luca, I'm thinking Chris Paul Jah. If he ain't shooting m if he ain't shooting people, he just got there, but he's still there. He even gets injured for a year. Okay, Well, first of all, you will say time about time out, time time out of time out of time out, time out time time number one. I think she is a shooting guards. The point guard. He holds the ball out, but he's shooting. Take away the positions. I'm I'm saying, this is what I'm saying. Don't act like what what I'm saying. Is
this this what I'm say. No, this is what I'm saying. Are you doing? No? You name six? You got your six. So my thing is this, you're talking about these guys who are younger, faster, can shoot the ball. Some of them can shoot the ball. Something came. My thing is this, who can command and lead a team?
That's my That's why I look at Chris Paul's a top five, top ten point guy right now because you're talking about because you talking about where the places I'm talking about sending him they need leadership, veteran leadership, Chris Paul, Chris Paul? Do they do they? Because it was very lacking in the playoffs this year. Then, because here's the thing, Chris Paul is not gonna be like all right, I need to make him. I need no, be honest, I'm gonna get you the ball on your spot, just
be there, all right? Cool? Not know because the way he the way the last we've been thrown away Chris Paul for like the last three or four years before he came to Phoenix, he was getting thrown away. Oh, Chris Paul's through, He's done. Okay, see to the playoffs, Houston. He's done, He's over with. My thing is this? Where was Chris Paul when they lost in the finals? He was Which mean, where was Chris Paul? Chris Paul is hold on? Chris Paul isn't there
to get you too. He's there to get you to the playoffs. He's not there to finish the job all because you're actually you're talking about where I don't say he's a lad. He lead the team and lead the team, he's gonna take you're gonna take them to What is he? I say he's the best player of the team. I say he's the leader of the team. But he clearly won the leader. Where Where was Devin Booker? Where's Kaddy? Wasn't there that year? Okay? My last year, this year,
last year, last year, last year? The bucks? Ye oh the bucks year? Oh Chris Paul did what he supposed to do. No, he didn't, he did not, he did not. Are you kidding me? And neither did and neither did Devin Booker. Neither did Aiden David book Devin Booker was the only one who got no Nevin Booker got balled out. Are you what? Go back and look at what and how A lot of how they had him locked up, him locked up? But yeah, what the average thirty four looking up? My thing is this, Get off
to Chris. I'm not on. You are on the Chris Paul, hold on, hold on, You're defending a thirty seven year old point guard who has never won a title. Is if he has a championship in your words, pedigree to lead a team past the fair I never said he was a championship pedigree. I never said he was the best player on the team. I said he is a leader on the court. So it doesn't that lead no matter where Chris Paul goes. At the end of the day, like
you said, he still has something left in the tank. That's what the bottom line bowls down too. He's not a top ten to me right now, but at the end of the day, because Paul is still a veteran point guard that can get the job done to a certain extent, he might have fifteen probably top ten, top fifteen, not top ten. Lucas Shade, Dame, Steph Haliburton, Morant, Irvin Trey Young De Aaron Fox, arguably Jalen Brunson, Drew Holiday, Jamal Murray, something might even say Darius
Garland exact. No, No, who did I just name that that? You wouldn't A team wouldn't pick over Chris Paul right now? Oh, Jaylen Bronson, New York gonna take Chris Paul, Jalen bron the Aaron Fox, The Aaron Fox. True Holiday. So here's the thing, True Holiday. Hold up, No, you asked let me do it, Okay, Trey Young, I'm taking Chris Kyrie Irvin, We're taking Chris Paul. Johan Moran job, I'm taking Chris Paul, Tyrese Haliburton, I'm taking Chris Paul.
I'm not gonna be finish because of the top. No, because you're talking about the is my thing. You're talking about guys who ain't done nothing. He ain't either, Chris Paul hasn't either. Not what you're bissit z? What is Chris Paul done? What has he done? Chris? He's been to the finals once? Chris what he lost to the Bucks and a play where he shouldn't even play in Game six he should have been suspended. They're talking about somebody, all stars, all in all NBA. I don't know.
I think he's top five in all time assists. You're talking about and here's the thing, you're talking about, guys who are who are unproven, who are unproven? Chris Paul Hollingburg just got an All Star game. He just got an All Star game. He ain't did nothing. Chris Paul is Chris. He's about Darren Fox. Darren Fox is fast. Then the Aaron Foxes. Just first of all, you just got onto the Aaron Fox train just what two months ago? Not during the season, just two months ago.
But no, suddenly, no, no, no, no, all a sudding. He's better than Chris Paul. You up, I didn't say better Christ very skilled player, he's a nutcase though I ain't got time for that with a title. Because Lebron, if you quit Chris Paul on Lebron team, don't give me to this because he's because he almost in the same boat. He almost in the same boat as h as Green. He almost in the same boat as Green. Take away, Lebron, take away,
step carry. What have you done, sir? Nothing? So so you with a straight face, ye would take a thirty eight year off ailing body. Chris Paul over the young core that we named in the NBA right now, yep, okay, and your team will come up short every year. They won't come up short. Who do you think he should go to. I just told you either Boston. I would like him to come to the Bugs. Why I'm Milwaukee. I just told you why. Both of those
teams are in need a leadership. We have skilled players. Both of those team have skilled players, but they need they're in need a leadership. Let's not let's sit here and act like that. I'm not saying Yannie is a leader. Jannie is one of the best players in the NBA. Round either number one of them two depends on who you're talking to. But don't sit here and act like another. Because Adam Chris Paul is just a coach on
the floor. Drew sometimes tends to be a little timid. I think Drew has got the job dumb for us though, right, he has got the job done. Goes in the past. He got a championship, right, he doesn't have a championship. Championship, Chris Paul doesn't. Never been locked up. Chris Paul didn't he did he lock up the player? Are you defending it's a player. He put the pauls on multiple times, who Chris Paul drew number one? Like I said before, I had never said,
like you said, Chris Paul has something left in the tank. So I'm not gonna sit here. Let let y'all just disrespect him because it's some younger players him. I'm saying what I'm Could you act like what? I don't know what I'm talking about. When I say Chris Paul is, like I said, top five, top ten, You're just naming off a bunch of younger players. They're not. They are. Stats don't lie. Stats don't
lie. Obviously, what's funny His stats have declined as he's aged, right, as they should as they should right, So then why should he still be better than the most of the young core of the NBA. Wow, I just find I just find it funny because the narrative, it's Lebron better than most of the young core of the NBA. Lebron said he's not that's
what he believes, But is he? It depends on who you're talking to you at thirty eight years old, as the straight face, are you drafting Lebron or Chris Paul first out of the sea of current NBA talent, probably probably over Joker over Yannis. They don't play the same position, so it doesn't matter over KD. You're drafting at Lebron at thirty eight and Chris Baard thirty eight over over those players that I just named. Yep, Okay, what's that? Listen? Yeah, this is not the point. Let let
let me live with some holy water in there. Man, because you over one on one, you on you, because because I'll put because I'll put you about Lebron James and Chris Paul over you talk about Chris Paul and Lebron James over uh, Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Lebron's the exception. But I'm not taking Chris Paul over in Jaylen Brown nor Jason Tatum. I don't care how bad they just played in the in the conference finals. I'm not
taking Chris Paul over many players you just named. And not just because okay, we're overlooking that. Chris Paul has, in my opinion, someone ruined the culture of the NBA. Here we go, they're actually about to create a D game flop rule thanks to Chris Paul. And yeah, it's a lot to do with it. Chris Paul has created a league of cry babies. He's created a league of flopping and more importantly, Chris Paul is still a good player. No one said that, nor KC or I said that.
But what we're saying is Chris Paul may have to embrace a bench role or a six man role because his starting days on a good team are likely over. Unless you do a full out swap of point guards, Chris Paul might be coming off somebody's bench. Can we agree with that or no.
So what I've been hearing is it depends on where he goes. What I've been hearing is if he go to LA, because I heard LA is in the process of coming up with a deal for Russell, right for Russell to get Yeah, then League will be the starting point guard from what I'm told, and Paul will be coming off the bench to one of the second unit. And what's wrong with that is all I'm saying. I'm here save it
for Chris Paul doesn't have to be the best player on your team. He does not do Chris Paul does not have to be um the second best player. He can be the third best player because you piece of money Jesus, because him today, I'm on Chris Paul. I'm just I'm not gonna just throw Chris Paul under the I'm just like because when you go for staff,
like when you're going hard for Staff and the Golden State Warriors. But it's one of those things where titles later though, zeke four titles like five you know what, I'll let you go hard for staff when you go hard for people like Draymond Green four times. When you when you go hard player of the Year, keep going. I got answers for you. Go ahead when you go when you go for hard for players like that. But then you thought Chris Paul underneath the bus like he ain't did some things in his league?
Who threw him on the the bus? Who? How did we throw him under the bus? Because I'm saying that he might need to be a sixth man, I'm all I said. And what did I say? I said, it depends on his situation. Come to the Clippers. He should not come off the bus for Russell Westbrook. No he shouldn't. He was so when you talk about I don't think. And I also said he shouldn't go to La Lakers because you got another old man with another old man with
an injury poem play. Well, I don't I said those two things. I don't think I said he should come to the Bucks because if we don't have veterans, least have some valuable veterans, some guys who can bring something to the game. We have guys who can fill in, and we have veterans who can you know, all right, cool, you give me good five ten minutes a game, maybe even fifteen if you on hot Street,
but other than that, or he can have a seat. So my thing is when you talk about like when okay, you say he is coming off the bench in Boston, Boston kind of iffy about. I'm not the biggest Marcus Smart fan at point guard anyway, So I'm not saying I'm sitting here is he's younger, not by much, but he's because But my thing is, it's more to a point guard position than youth and defensive presence. You
have to you have to command that offense. So when I look at Chris Paul, he is a leader on the court, an extension of the head coach. And That's what I'm looking at. And I'm like, okayah, Bucks, can you use a guy like that? Everybody keep talking about we should go young, we should go young, young for what, tell me your young team? Who's won a championship? Tell me a young tell me an old teams. Every team that's won a championship has either had veterans on
that team or have been really good offensively or really good offensively. When the Golden State Warriors was winning championship, it wasn't because they was young, because they had a scheme and Steph Curry was pretty much in his prime shooting lights out. And then they added k D and they added KD another lights out shooter. So that's what that's all I'm saying. Okay, So at the end of the day, my respect for Chris Paul is there is it is
absolutely there. I mean he's a flopper. I mean he's he He's made the game terrible in that sense. I still think he has a good two to three years left, but it may not be as a start point guard. That's all I'm saying, Bro, That's all I'm saying. Um. Damian Lillard said the Miami Heat would be the first choice in the hypothetical trade if that were to happen. His other choices are the Boston Celtics, New York Knicks, and the Brooklyn n He didn't say in that order. He
really said that. He said Brooklyn Nets. He said Miami if they don't win a championship, Brooklyn, and then he said like the Knicks, and then he said Boston. He really didn't want to go to Boston, but he said, I think it speaks volumes to how Boston does things. But anyways, Miami, Brooklyn, New York. What do you guys think it's the best fit for Damon Lillard. While he's thinking, I'm gonna go with a team, he didn't say, here we go. I'm gonna go with
Milwaukee. Here we go. I don't think he said Milwaukee because he don't want to get caught tampering. I think he's said Milwaukee because well, first of all, we can't afford him. If you get rid of Middleton in holiday, you can absolutely afford and we would be horrible. No, we wouldn't. Yes, we would two players who have our best, our second and third best player for one guy. We had Chris Middleton two seasons really season and a half too, because clearly he did what he won the man
this playoffs. Either. So my thing is this. Let's say let's say we do trade them too, and then let's say we get Damon Lillard. Show me what a start and just put on a starting lineup right now. Dave, Well, you're not gonna get both. You'll get one in some draft picks. Let's start there. You're not gonna get both. You got Dame at the one. I think you can move Holiday to the two, or they're interchangeable. Drew and Dame are interchangeable. They can play either position.
Although I'd rather have the rock in Holiday's hand. It's a point guard. Yannis can play three. Who you have at the four? Crowder at the four if he comes back, and Brook at the five if he comes back? What do you? What do you have? I don't like Dame kind of Milwaukee continue. I'd rather see Dame. Honestly, I'd rather see him Cook. I'd rather see him La. Course, you day everybody, you owe everybody, So you want Chris Baul any day. I don't want
Chris Paul in La. First of all, day, I never said that. You never even get me a chance to talk about that. Dame will never and I say never come to La. He did. I would would you point in me for you can't give me a chance to even answer the questions. Answer a question about where he wants Chris Paul, are you over there looking at mariad meals? Wait for that? Who's my meals? Oh? I really don't okay, answer the question where do you want Dame to
go? Milwaukee's not an option, but I would like to see him there. Go ahead the places that Dame probably is gonna go, he ain't gonna speak on. He's gonna exactly, He's gonna speak on places that that probably he don't want to go. So like he's gonna say, my miam may be a good place to go. His house is up for sale if that's where you want to live and have a good lifestyle. He's probably sick of the cold, so he probably wouldn't want to come to Milwaukee off of that
strength a long but is here him? Are boys? They're not? Remember what he said? The one player he wants to play with is Jannis. How many boys? It was an interview watching Lebrons didn't want to play It was Stephen. It ain't gonna happen. May never Lebrocket pull off things that people can It may never not. This season not this season, for it's all said and done. If Lebron wants to go out and win that fifth title, and if he has a chance to join Draymond and the boys in
Golden State, don't think he won't. Raymond won't be there. No, he won't. He won't go there. He wouldn't. Uh, they would have to come to him. We don't exactly. So to your point, since we're gonna play along here, if I'm Dane for all those teams, him going to Brooklyn doesn't put him in a winning situation. It doesn't. Him going to Boston is not likely because Boston can't afford him. They're they're talking about signing give him both their top two guys, the extensions of half
a billion dollars, so they can't afford it. You trade Brown, trade Jaylen Brown. I wouldn't mind him with Tatum. I think that's dope. But if I'm him, I think Miami sounds like the best fit him. Jimmy Bucketts. But who did you give up for him? Tyler Hero? Some draft picks you keep Palot Hero. He's not making that much money. Yeah, but I think Portland has to get something out the deal. That's true. They pakett because they because the thing about Portland is which everybody's thinking,
because they got to the number three a four pick. Either they in a rebuild, but they saying the same they sing in the same song. Hey, we're building around Dame. That's what we're doing. We're building a round Dame. They got they're trying to get rid of that pick. So either they gotta get rid of that pick. What they gotta get rid of Dame this year? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They had season before.
Before it comes down to it, one of them gotta go. Yeah, and Dame shall move up and yeah the number three pick, right, Yeah, they're trying to get rid of the number three pick. Yeah. Dame said two things. Number one, I'm not playing with no kids no more. I'm done doing that. That's number one. Number two. He
also said he would go to Miami if they didn't win a championship. I think Dame wants to go somewhere where they don't have a I want to say championship pedigree, but they don't have They're not always in the mix like the Bucks are always in the mix. But we're still a very small market team. Miami is is never really like in the mix like that. Even if like next year and next year bettings and stuff like that, they're not gonna be in the mix of championship teams. They're gonna be fifty six after.
They're gonna be after the Lakers, I think. But I do think Miami is probably the best place for Lillard. I don't think he's gonna win anything in Miami, but it'll be nice to see. I think if he really wants to win a championship, his best bet is to go to the Bucks or Boston Celtics. Now, how you get there and how do you how you got to get there is a different thing, But I think it would
be his best bet to win a championship. But I think Dan wants to leave on the terms of not, hey, I'm not I'm not chasing the ring. I just wants to be in a continuing conversation, and in all seriousness, him going to the Bucks or Boston doesn't necessari put him in the championship situation. I think it. I think it does. It makes it
better than Portland. But as we said before, the Milwaukee Bucks have to prove themselves that they're a championship I think I think, if anything we learned this season, the East is wide open, like anybody can win in any day. And so yeah, I think that when you come over even Philadelphia, Philadelphia needs and needs of a point guard. Him and Embiid and Maxie and tires Uh, Tobias Harris and those guys. I think they could use a point guard like Dan. They don't have enough assets. Well, ain't
nobody over there really making no max contract? Stuffing in b and Harden's gonna leave un Let's take right, and what Harris is on one of them big contracts? Who not no? Two fifty like a one something? No, it's like two. I ain't no two look look that up. But I think that um Philadelphia is even Let's say they had to give up Tobias Harris, it wouldn't be that big of a deal Tobias is making. Tobias is the highest fade player on the team this season, making what thirty eight million?
How many years? He five year? One hundred and eighty million, five years million, forty next year? Max and b to make forty seven next year. Harden, if he picks up his option, he'll make thirty five. But like those are a MAX contract and they don't have a big they don't know max contract. I mean, they have one hundred and sixty million dollars payroll next year. But James Harden, we know, is leaving
like likely. Um, Philly has a lot of work to do too, man, because they don't have a whole lot of players on their roster. That's true. I mean speaking of Philadelphia, James Harden is currently since they fired uh, Doc Rivers, which he wanted there, he's torn in between resigning with Philadelphia seventy six ers or signing with the Houston Rockets and low key there's the dark horse. If the Phoenix Suns, he could also go there. They're drop about a sign and trade. That bad happen signing trade?
So where should uh, what should James Harden do? Or what should Philly do? Philly, it's time to bust it up. Bust it up? What do you mean? Bust it up? All right, he's already crack, So what do you got? I'm serious, Just think about it. Bust it up like this. They wanted all this time to get everybody healthy. You got everybody healthy, and you still couldn't do it. So what is the excuse? Now? Now you put it on the coach. So what's gonna be your next excuse? It's in bed. It's time for somebody
to go. It's time for some change. It got to be more than just a coach this year. When you say bust it up, though, are you talking about the whole roster? Are you just talking about James needs to go. They gotta pick between James, Rover and b One of them gotta go. And you gotta get rid of Tobias because he ain't doing what he gotta do for one eighty. For one eighty, I just want twenty six fifteen points a game. You want what? Twenty fifteen points a game?
That's it. Fifteen points a game, fifteen twenty points a game, five year, one hundred and eighty. Do you know he's making forty million a year. Would have to do anything twenty to fifteen a game. It's all I need, That's all I need. You would never run my team? Are you kidding me? I'm telling me you get in a man thirty five million. I'm gonna give you the bare minimum. He's making thirty six million dollars and the only thing you expect out of him is fifteen points a
game. Fifteen twenty points. Again, no, your team will be banked up so fast. He needs to be a double double. Look how much Drew Holiday is averaging? Holiday took us a look how much Drew Holiday is average? How much is Drew Holiday deal? Like it's a max, it's a max. But Chris Middleton is that a max? And they both helped us win a title? They both? Did they not? Did they not? Look they're talking about that. They're talking about what these guys are averaging
compared to what they're paid. What Drew Holidays is what one hundred and thirty four million, four years? He got like two something? No, no, yeah, a year one hundred and thirty four million. Jannie is at forty five. Chris Middleton's at forty, Holidays at thirty. So us now no matter what the average because he does a lot of things that he does a lot of things that don't show up in a stat book, that you
don't that you can't put in a stat poop. My thing is this thing is this when you're talking about great help, side defense, when you talk about your head it's all around, great teammate, when you also have well, first of all, we're not in Philadelphia, so we don't watch we watch Bucks in Philadelphia. Seventy six is two different ways, that's first of
all. Second of all, when you talk about the league and where we're at as far as how much money these guys are making, let's say Philadelphia is given to Bias one hundred and eighty million for what four years, five five years, whatever. The point I'm saying is this, when I say I want fifteen twenty a game, that's all I expect from you, because I expect if you're making more. If you're making like two hundred, then I'm expecting like twenty five. It's not that many people averaging thirty, So
are you kidding me? It's nothing people averaging thirty. How many people average thirty in the league? Two? Maybe three? Steph Curd didn't even average thirty this year. So when you talk about like beaut the comparison to what these guys are making into what they're averaging twenty points in them the average twenty points in the league right now is very hard. It's difficult. It's not easy. Is that what you think? Yeah, that's what I know.
I'm gonna tell you like this man, and then I'm talking about you just say, Chris Middleton gave us what a season and a half or two seasons you said he ain't play? And how much you make it? The average thirty three, Luca average thot two, Jannie Abash thot one, named Little average thot two, Shake guildrid a Legenda average thirty one, thirty six, Kevin twenty nine, twenty nine. So that's six. So since got averaging thirty It's not easy, but it's a thirty is twenty nine? Is a
lot? Average? Twenty nine? Oh god, are on that games coming up? And y the day was average twenty six. He shouldn't average that. I mean, now, I'm sorry, he shouldn't average. He should average more than that. I'm gonna tell you like this. You know I'm I'm gonna tell you like this. Man if I mean it's true, Chris Paul show Man um if five, James Harden, you made a comment about going back to young players, right, like James doesn't want to do that.
All James Harden will doing Houstons get paid? Does it? He's not a leader? Does it? He'll make Probably he'll probably get a three year, hundred and forty five million dollar contract with a fourth year player option and that's it. They won't win anything. But coaching makes a difference. Man. They're saying mp M, what is it, Ezy Ammy Uduko? Who oh oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You're saying that he is the coach to kind of coach James hard needs, so that that's not
gonna it's not gonna pan out well because I don't know. But if I'm James Harden, I'm gonna given another run with Philly. I don't think him and Phoenix is the answer. Uh, him and k D and Booker not enough ball, not enough ball. I say, I say, if if Phoenix really wants to win a championship, you look into the you look into the hardened situation. I know Katie ain't gonna do it. I know Booker ain't gonna do it, but that that new owner he needs to find out
with James Harden, what's on your mind? Hey, James, what's in your mind? But that also another report came. I don't know if it's in a dockey you're looking to get rid of Bam too. So if Miami yeah no, um, I'm sorry Aiden oh yeah yeah, yeah, they look they lived him. If you can get rid of Ayden and bring in James Harden hardened Booker Durant doesn't have a bad ring to it. It does not. If anything, it says championship. Now here's the thing about James
Harden. He's a quitter. He's a quitter. Like he not feeling it. He just he just stopped, stopped, and we talk about like James Harden during the season it is cool, but playoff James Harden sucks and so um. You have to take that into account. I think James Harden sha honestly looking to the Phoenix situation. But if he can't get into the Phoenie situation, he needs to go to the JA. He needed to go back
to Philly and run it back. I think KD is done with him, so he ain't going to see the thing about it, and the thing about it is every time Katie's never the issue because he's a beta. He's a beta male, and so he ain't gonna speak up. He ain't gonna hand no issues with you. Really, only reason only reason he not even Golden State right now is because Dreamond Green got in his face. Because he's a bus rider. I was gonna I was gonna say something else. But that's
another PG way. That's a PG way of saying it. What I was gonna say. I think Keiths was going the same way. But I think that almost said it. I almost said it too. But my thing about KD like, he's never liked the issue. Even when he was in Brooklyn, Kyrie was the issue. Now I will say this is now in the docket. But Kyrie um chucked it up and was like, you know, I'm gonna talk to Lebron about him joining the Mask. Now we all did that one's gonna happen. We all know one wasn't gonna happen, but he's
something to talk to him about it. I said, all right, cool, I like it. I hate it. I hated that would be the worst situation ever it would, but I like it. That would be so toxic, you know how I like it because this Kyrie emitting admitting in his own way, I mucked up. I shouldn't stay with Lebron. My career
was on the up and up when I was with Lebron. Right now, he probably have at least two more, at least two more championships, at least two more, and the fact that you left one Brian hanging the way you did the way you left Lebron hanging, and now you see that you need them. It shows maturity. But we know it ain't gonna happen. But it would be dope to have Luca, Kyrie and Bron. It would be the worst line. I can't say worst line of every because you don't
have in Dallas. It wouldn't work. It would I don't know. It would have to be in La. Well, Luca ain't going well. Luca ain't going to La. But Luca mined up with Yoker. Luca might look better than the U in the law. He can't marketing. Luca can't handle that Lebron pressure because Lebron will make him play defense. He'll fit in with Lebron's crying, but he Lebron, ain't. You ain't gonna be able to just sit back in the whole NBA cross do that. Lucas crying on a
different levels. Child, he's post child. He crying like which one Isn't Lebron be crying or not? Lebron's not a cry because he gets hurt, filed a lot. He's been filed harder than more than anybody else in NBA history. Hold on. It's like that, y'all. Are y'all, Are y'all oblivious to what be going on? It? Are we what oblivious to what were going on in the games? When y'all be seeing, have you seen Lebron get filed in the game, He'll be a cry baby. Bro
got a cry baby. He's demanded what real question? Real question, This is a real question. Did he get found that last play when they got sweat? Did he get volved? Yes? Yeah, no he did move on? No, nope, nope, nope, nope, We're gonna move on because I just wanted to see if he was gonna if he's gonna if he's gonna fess something like nose all ball, Nope, when I want, we're gonna move on. It was the body contact. It wasn't It wasn't the hands. It was a body contact. What body contact? He had
a ball to get that call. Job would have got that call. Jo would have got a pistol that would have got that call. I'll see you after the game. Just see his campus trying to say it was a toy. That's why you see was not in the duet docket. You see why Adam Silver says, so I take silver, though Adam Silver said, your job arrest I Kobe playing a basketball for a while, so being respectful to the finals before he makes the announcement, but says he's gonna miss about forty
games. Um, now, this guy. This has obviously been brought up um the last week or two about um the Miami Heat run this year and also the Denver Nuggets run this year. UM. I want you, guys, I have four teams, four different years. Want you to rank the greatest playoff run? Really? Yes, the two thousand and twelve Miami Heat pull it up, I know, but it was a good run. Let me tell you about it. Let me about twenty and twelve of Miami Heat. That was the second that was a comeback here, right, that was
a comeback here. Then one playing on games they had laughed at Dirk in them caught that ale and they wasn't playing on games that year. Here. Ray Allen hit the three when all the fans left out. But Lebron by himself was doing very That was prime. That was prime Lebron. That was prime Lebron. You know, that's when we all hated him, but he was still that guy. We didn't hate him. We just didn't like what he did, how he did it, and he was still that guy.
The fact that he didn't because he did it how he wanted to do it. So that's why it was a problem. He did on the National TV. He left his seam hanging on National He didn't did you call it what you want? Left him hanging on when they when the name make Lebron's, Uh, it was the named ma Jordan's. The bull was they were the
bulls. Thing that they did on Netflix undisputed, the last dance when they make Lebrins the last dance, That chapter is gonna be the worst told chapter because the way he did it, the way he carried them them bums for all those years. He could have did it how he wanted to do it. I'm not going there with you. You don't leave your TV, bro. He didn't leave him hanging. He did. He announced it on National TV that nobody knew what he was doing. So what that's his decision.
He's a grown man. But you don't have to go tell nobody what you're gonna do next. Do you listen? Do you got to answer this question? Listen? Answer the question what I'm saying, No, listen, to what I'm asking you. I hear you answer this question. Okay, if you getting ready to make a decision on what you're gonna do next to your life, do you got to let him no answer it. I don't have
to go on a Facebook life. It tells the world, girl that I'm about to leave the ninety four feet podcast, and y'all hearing about it for the first time, say, I didn't say, but that's what we're not talking about the podcast. We're talking about your job. Even worse, that's what he did not answer the question. That's different, that's a job.
But he did on National TV. Those are his teammates. Who was the teammates, Who was the teammates to that roster, don't you know National TVV look at the rosters have to do to Hear's the thing even Lebron was like, I shouldn't have. I shouldn't We're not saying that he could have left. It's how he left. That's it. That's what ain't him as a you're talking about that. We talk about Championship Run two thousand and twelve and everything that he did. He made, He raised money for a good cast,
He raised money for the boys and girls clubs, but exactly. But it's still the way he whatever you call it, what you want to call it, I think it was fair. So talking about championship runs here two thousand and twelve Miami Heat, Ladies and gentlemen, before we get into it, please don't leave your employer on the Facebook life without First of all, please put it in the proper notice with management, and not do a babe for TV special. No one's gonna watch it. Who's gonna do all that?
All you do is you be like, hey, I ain't coming back. Notice he didn't do you. Notice when he left Miami, he didn't do at that time he told them the right way because he wasn't because he said, hey, I did this the wrong way. Let me do it
the right way. So to answer your question here man Miami, he hold on saying, let me just go through the team, the twenty twelve Miami Heat, two thousand teen Los Angeles Lakers, Kobe last championship, the two thou twenty one man Milwaukee Bucks, and the two thousand and twenty two Golden State Warriors. Well, the twenty two gold State Warriors only one one that year, So you can't say a run with that, which means I think his question is, let's be afraid of the NBA finals run. Let's pathway
to the finals was the PASSA. That's on my point. I'm gonna go with the Bucks. And here's why I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna go to Bucks, because we wanted fifty years to the date. Literally, that's part of it. Fifty years later. Also, nobody had the Bucks winning it that year. Nobody, And in my opinion, it was harder because that season was spread out because of COVID and all the different rules. We didn't win that title into July right, that was almost two months later than
the normal season would end. So I think the Bucks pathway was harder. They had to beat tougher players. Back when Kobe and La Royn won, they were dominating the league. They were the favorites every year. The Bucks had never been the favorites until they won the title. So I'm gonna go with the Bucks for that win because we had to beat some monsters. We beat KD we beat the Sun, we beat the Celtics, we swept the Heat, we beat the Hawks without Jannis. We beat the Hawks in the
conference finals on the back of Chris Middleton. So the Bucks, uh, and we were down, and we were down to zero, and we were down to zero. We gentlemen swept the Phoenix Suns. All the rest of these were easy wins for these teams, except for the Miami Heat one. I'm gonna give ray Allison credit. That Ray Alan three that brought them back into the game was honorable mentioned. But I'm about to go in my Milwaukee bucks Man. Obviously I'm a fan, but if you just look at how
the drama surrounding that season, how we traded for PJ. Tucker at the half season and he started playing for US. I like the Bucks run Los Angeles Lakers. Oh yeah, they beat UH, they beat um? They beat last title? Didn't they beat uh? Or is the Orlando It wouldn't I think it was. It wasn't Orlando. It was the Boston Celtics. I'm sorry. They beat the Boston Celtics a seven game They beat the They
beat the Big Three in seven games. Um, Kobe had two, they were down, they beat the Big Three, and it was this is before Shack, this is after Shack. Actually this is his sixth title, so he had one more than Shack. I'm sorry. This is fifth time. I'm sorry. But he won one more than Shaq and um he won with Paul Gasol and he um he beat uh like I said, beat the Big three, but he was he was. Uh. I'm trying to think I was the same. Oh two, he was down three two. He was
down three two and won two games by itself. It was him and Paul Gasol talking about a tragedy. But um, I think a tragedy like a tragedy, roster, a horrible roster, tragedy. What I say, same thing? Now? When you just said, what did you say? Really really crazy? I didn't say anything up. First of all, i've seen your face. Your face said it's the light right here. They keep blaming in my eye. But the point is this is Kobe's last great run.
And I assume you come about you want to vote for twenty and twelve Miami with Lebron. That was a great run, but the Bucks one was better to be. Now, are you saying this as a fan? Are you saying this at the basketballing or as a Bucks fan? I'm saying it because of the Bucks in six ye and it's stuck around the whole playoffs, not to mention what he said. But the fifty years later to the dating, then that just put a cap on there. I will say, Yanna is
putting in sweep. What do you mean a sweet? The Bucks won four straight? It was sweet, not really but okay. At the same time, twenty twelve Miami one was a good one though it was it was a good ride. It can't lie that Rode was good. And you remember that's the year they won like twenty some games, like twenty seven in a row, twenty eight in a row. And to beat Tim Duncan, that's tough. And you know what, for me, that was probably one of the
better finals of the past ten years. And you think he beat Tim Duncan in the finals the Bucks be who but Chris Paul and the Phoenix Suns. Yeah, so I mean the Bucks did do something. So it's I'm on the border with that one. But that that run by Miami and to come on and you beat Tim Duncan, that's tough. And you and they had a young Kawadi Into who actually had Lebron kind of up, not locking them up, he was containing them. Locking up is a is a strong word.
Lebron ain't seen defense like that iris across Mike in the words of you, Jordan fans, no iris across Mike. So cool. I locked up Lebron. It's so kind a lock up. It's not of the lock up, lock them down, it's not a lockdown. So he contained them. That's the better word for it, is contained. Lock up means yeah,
you know, I know, Keys, relax, It's okay. I agree with you, though I ray Allen rescuing them from that game with that three pointer after all the fans left and tried to get back in this arena just lives in my mind a fair weather fans, right, even though we know the Bucks were losing, We me and Kesey stayed the whole game. We stayed the whole they were gonna come back because though they gonna come back with
the Bucks. Yeah, I mean, Jimmy Butler shouldn't have made that basket at the end of the game, pushed off, But yeah, we stayed. The Miami Heat fans they hit it, they hit it, and they showed them running back to the building trying to get in after they hit that three. So that was a great final series for me. But like I said, the most special to me it gotta be the Bucks and then the Warriors last season. See we can't go off and us special to you?
He said, what is the greatest run? Well, that's in the eye of well you save Miami. I said the Bucks. But I said the Bucks. I said that Miami run was special. I did say that, and it was one of the best to watch. But I had to I'm picking the four. I'm picking the Bucks. But they all as a as a basketball enthusiasts, all four were good. Though the Warriors was the least memorable because it's it's the Warriors, right. People knew that they were gonna
win. Well, I knew they were gonna and they got there because of a lot of injuries. They really did. They got there because a lot of people, a lot of injuries got guess how they got there. I want to see teams be healthy, teams like to beat like like the brond them beat a healthy team Duncan and then that year like speed up. So Drake, So Drake called me. It was like this this Finals is boring? Am I wrong? Is he wrong? Casey? I don't think so.
Let me ask you this. Let let me take over the show right now. But she would just say what you want to say to say. You don't need to frame it like that. I didn't take up the show right quick, I can though, ze, How seriously, y'all, how many of the games in the finals have you watched? Watch all of them? Casey, how many have you watched all the way through? I watched all of them the finals, Yes, all of them. Now I fell asleep. I didn't watch. I got rid of cable. I literally watched
because because we know who's the real fans. It's well, if if me calling the finals boring doesn't make me a fan, well so be it. See the thing about it is my think my things back me up. Why, here's my thing? If you had personal bias, If you had personal bias, I get that in the finals, that's a lie. I watched last year. I watched the year before that. In fact, I went, you're proving his point. I'm not. I watched you before that.
Listen, what's the difference between this year and last year? Boring? Boring? Who won last year? Boring doesn't matter? Listen, folks, tap into us nation. How many of you agree with me that the finals have been boring? There? Now here's the thing, bet you when the ratings come. This is gonna be the lowest rated finals in recent years. Biggest Why would you now you were talking about the finals. I wasn't watching last year. I was not watching that. I wasn't watching it because you knew
you didn't want to hear my mouth. That's beside. That's beside. The point Steph Curry and them in the NBA Finals is boring. Now, all reason I say is this that was actually exciting. Now here's the thing. I'm mad because Draymond Green has more time to talk about stuff. I don't want to hear Draymond Green talk about stuff real quick. This is just this clutch sports. Most born finals ever. The NBA Finals have been dubbed the snooze Fest ESPN troll for most born NBA Finals, The Miami Heat the most
boring finals, uh, the most casual NBA finals ever. Would you be watching if it was Boston Verse Lakers? Um, I'll be honest with you, man, I am a big fan of the sport. I watched just listen, man, I watched the highlights. But I'm not gonna lie to you. When the Bucks got eliminated, it was hard to use personal bias. Then I was a little I'm a little hurt. Are you saying personal bias? I'm a little hurt. Are you saying because of personal bias?
I'm hurt? Tone? Since Drad does want to answer the question, are you not watching the NBA Finals because personal bias? Uh? A little bit, A little bit, I won't lie, Doctor Bird said, somewhat boring, but I am enjoying watching Joker play. Agreed he should have won MVP. Thank you. That's my My point is this, when somebody put up thirty twenty and fifteen, you gotta see that. I mean, we see it all year. Who I mean you said when you watching the different Nuggets
play, I ain't staying at that late. I ain't staying at that late, be honest with you. I like Joker the way he played, but it's very tim duckan I don't. I don't think he's the reason they're winning right now. Murray Brown. Actually the last game it was because of Brown, Bruce Brown. If you want to get technical, I watched the game. How are you gonna say that you don't even watch the game? I
watch I watched the highlights. Joker didn't even Joker didn't even score in the first half of the game and came back and still have almost a triple double. What are you talking about? That's what you do. What I'm saying the players who make an impact to win the games. Different players make impacts to win games. So here's my think about. I get what's been doing what he does. He's the stat sheet stuffer. We know that. Y'all say the same thing about Lebron. He's the stat sheet stuff. Well that's
different. So joker Luca stat sheet stuffer. Whoa whoa whoa whoa stat sheet stuffer. Let's relax here. First of all, if anything, you're watching a master at conducting in offense. Yeah, that's what you're doing. That's number one. Number two Miami is still Jimmy Butler and the guys fresh off the boat Bruce bound in that last game put on the show. We had twenty that's it. That's the game winners right there. How much they win by knowing like teen eleven. So okay, without his twenty one, they
don't win. They don't win. I get that. I mean without without Jamal Murray twenty something, they don't win that game. I get what you're saying. Like different guys and Denver Nuggets have stepped up. I do different guys have stepped up to help them get over the hump. I do agree
with that, but it doesn't take away from what Joker is doing. Yeah, but I'm just saying that, and I think about this is like I said before, I think one of the things is one of the things about oh think about like the Nuggets is that and my team get about Nuggets and Miami High Friday got Miami was out playing Boston, Milwaukee, New York. They were just out playing them Denver like y'all not anna outplayoffs. We're gonna show y'all who y'all really are. And they are uh Schroder whatever his name
is, and uh what's the name Vincent? And uh what's the other dude name, I don't know, whatever his name is. Three dudes fresh off the boat. That's what they're looking like too, three dudes fresh off the boat. And so when you talk about like the Boston, I mean, I'm sorry. The Denver Nuggats have an all around better team with better u just better team chemistry. Jimmy. Jimmy and his team have been just making it off of we're gonna outwork you and in the East you can outwork teams
and win games. But but let's not die. Let's let's not dial play the Denver Nuggets because I told Zeke the other day, I said, they're having a very San Antonio Spurs like season. They are fundamentally beating you with fundamentals. Joker, let's be honest. He's a great player. But there's nothing exciting about Joker. Nothing nothing. That's what I just said. There's nothing exciting. So you're proving my point. That's why it's born. My
own Miami's only superstar is coach Spo. It's not it's not CB. Jimmy is a star surrounded by role players. Time players don't always show up. What makes it somewll born is exciting. When those dudes step up, they're limited. That's from doctor Bird, a long time listener. But what I'm saying is coach. What I'm saying it is coach Doctor Burr. Listen to
this early podcast because he was dogging your boy, Coach Bo. But anyway, Joker and the Denver Nuggets represent the new San Antonio Spurs, and here, if the NBA is not careful, Denver might be around for years to come. Because you see what they did. They pulled off a trade in the finals to build more talent around Joker. I've never seen the team trade
in the finals. They traded players in the finals. More importantly, they traded draft picks so they can get higher picks to get better players to build around Joker and Jamal Murray. How did they do that? You legally came, you can't. You can trade, You just can't. Just doesn't get done. Doesn't get done. It's stuff, right, it's not approved it to the it's in principle. But the Denver Nuggets, as boring as they are, they might be the new sentence on your Spurs. No, no
time will tell no. You got the big fundamental. Hold up, you got the big fundamental in Joker. You got a number two player in Jamal Murray. Right, you got a number three player and Porter junior. The Porter junior going to get paid. They could pay them. They can't pay pay of three of them. Number one Porter Junior not worth whatever he told about getting paid. Let's stop there. That's number one, number two. You're talking about San Antonio Spurs, and I don't like the narrative that you're
talking about boring basketball boring bas fundamental basketball. Boring basketball to me? For you NCB is watching the two thousand and I think it's two. I forgot Lakers in the Pistons. No is watching Golden State go ham across the country. That's not boring. It's it's boring. Hold second, it's born. It's boring because I know all the top y'a off of a win by twenty, but y'all having to win by thirty. That's not fun basketball. It
made I said that. So when you talk about boring basketball, that was boring basketball. Always clowning me about Steph Curry? But who hated Golden State the most when Kade was on them? Because who hated them the most? Me? Because it made the game what boring? So when you talk about a competitive team, a competitive team, now I will say this, the juice has ran out, the streak is done. Miami has come across a real team, and they like, you know what, we're not gonna play
with y'all. Everybody who's playing with them, Boston more talented, but y'all was playing with them. So they did what they supposed to do. Beat y'all. And even the Bucks playing with them, They're like all right, we're gonna beat y'all. And Miami had a chip on their shoulder when they played the Bucks. They might want to talk about that, but they had
a chip on their shoulder real bad. So my thing about when you're talking about boring basketball, you talk about guys not um, you're not talking about guys not playing good basketball. I think that even though the Nuggets and the games are closed, they're close enough there, like, Okay, you don't know who's gonna win this game. Now, it does look like the different Nuggets have better players. They're they're they're guys off the benches stepping up and
that's what they're supposed to do when the time comes. So it's just one of these things. Were like, and the fact that we're talking about coach Spostra is one of the key players is the is the essence of how bad Joe team is? Is the essence of how bad Joe team. And we talk about the year of the unit of coaches. He's the one, him and Jimmy and what stop it. Jimmy should be averaging thirty if he was
that guy, he should be averaging thirty. But he's not. Joker is Now I'm gonna wrap this up. It wasn't a hot tech, but if it makes you feel better or fine. And then on top of that, the fact, the fact that you took about the twenty and twenty two Golden State Warriors buyouts. Oh yeah for buyouts books, never a bite I ain't get. But they want two million dollars though this year getting paid Uh like
a baseball player. Dude has been paid for last We got to remember, look at with the with the new agreement, can they still hold onto these top four players? They'll play some serious luxury taxes. Here's the thing. Hold up before you go, Denver doesn't know what it's like to win the title. They will tomorrow night. You think they're not gonna be like Milwaukee and invest in a winning culture because once you win, you can't go back.
Because one thing about the Bucks we want we wanted them titles, but we ain't had a losing season in like six or seven years now. My thing, the only thing is you're talking about forty six million. The Joker yep thirty three, two Tomorrow yep, thirty three, to Porter yep, twenty two to Gordon yep. Too much and another fifteen to call will poe Yep, can they keep balling them if they're in the game for them? If the only person who don't make a lot of money that has been helping
them out a lot of Ruth Brown he only makes six million. Yeah, So my thing about that is they can though. That's the whole point of them making no trades. But I thought with the new collective bargaining or whatever it is, they don't they can't hold on. They can hold on, but they're basically the new salary cap is not giving you room to be flexible. Meaning if you're going to have these kind of players, you're going to pay stiff penalties. That's all that means. But that's the whole point of
it because because that's what Golden Staate was doing. What the sake the penalty, That's what the Bucks is doing. They everybody they stopped. They stopping that. Are you sure? Yes? That's the That was why the GM from Golden State was like, because he had to make a decision between Dreymond Green and Clay Thompson. He had to make a decision and he wouldn't make that decision. Okay, so the new sal recap of Green men. We gotta wrap up here and we were good. So the cap and the luxury
tax, here's the good news. The basic structure of the salary cap is not changing. Players and owners will spit still split the league's basketball income fifty fifty, YadA, YadA, YadA. This season, the NBA uses a soft cap, as opposed in the NFL's hardcap, meaning teams are allowed to exceed the cap under a variety of circumstances. This year's cap is one hundred and twenty two million, and some teams are spending as much as one hundred
and ninety one. The salary tax line is a higher figure, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. And the new CBA. So we're gonna go ahead and round No, no, no, I'll stop it. Stop. First of all, you are talking about this. That's okay, But I'm not done. Nevertheless, was nevertheless, Dad, I'm just done, you know David Ruff? Uh? Well, am I going to see you? Otis? You want to put that to the test anyway you want to put that? Listen? Bad? There is no podcast,
you know what. So nevertheless, whatever happens to the Dinver Nuggets, they are going to be used to winning and they're going to invest whatever they can to keep their core together. I can see that. Congratulations of the different Nuggets. Tomorrow night happen on win an NBA championship and the next year they're looking at one hundred and seventy two million dollars in and he just one one
one million is what most teams are spending. Yes, but anyways, um, this has been another this has been This has been another episode of ninety four feet Podcasts. I love the think my brother Dre you're well thanks. I also think to think my brother Keisey been a pleasure you could get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can catch us on social media platforms. You got you're gonna be an a note about this or oh now I can't be an adult because you are. Okay, five kichus on all
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