Coaching Carousel

Uh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. There's another episode the ninety four feet podcast. It's your boy because hek in the building. I hear my brothers Dre what's good, everybody happy to be back. I'm also here, my brother Keith. What's good? Good people? Good to be in the building. How y'all doing today? Doing great? Man, it's finally summary. I'll go to man. That glass is a

little brown grass, that crass. If you're a homeowner and you take care of your lawn, man, you are really up that right now, because that grass is danger first. And I don't know if y'all remember the last time the gas the grass burnt like that and all the trees die. It takes years to recover some good grass and some good trees. Now here's the deal, though, shems hit a lot of water. Yeah yeah, I'm not tripping. I'm not I'm not a homeowner. I don't care about the

grass. But do you like the beauty? You want to you want where you live in your city to be beautified? Man? And summertime? Nah, Man, I like sun dresses and no panties and big booties. That's all concerned about I'm not. I'm not. So here's the thing about being concerned about that. While we love to see that, Yeah, it's not wrong with some green grass, right green grass. But man, I'm loving that. The summer is off to a great start. Man it is. This is a nice, great start to the summer. Uh, it'd be

even better if we were the NBA finals. We were the NBA Finals, this city be acting oh fool right now. Probably good we didn't. It's probably good we didn't because you know, the city of Milwaukee can't handle mark for things. At the same time, I would be acting a full right now pleasant like you said, the admiral did they win? I was traveling yesterday to the Admiral's game. No lie to you, fellas. This is

how crazy the city is. I got on the highway. I always checked my series to see what's going on in the area, so I don't have to take the interstate. So I serious, I said, what's going on in Milwaukee? They said there are no events plan So I got on the interstate. And I was on the interstate. It should take me fifteen minutes to get to downtown Milwaukee from where I live. Bro, I guess there was a Chris staple Tin concert at OH. I had no idea. You

know, my music tastes diverse. I don't know who that is. Bro traffic was backed up for three hours. Same time the traffic was backed up, it was a shooting on the interstate at six o'clock. So that's what happened. It was a shooting on the interstate, and it was a Chris staple Tin concert. It was. It was jam packed on the freeway and I had no idea why. It's like, I'm thinking, oh, Admiral's game. But the funny thing is, I don't know why this is.

I don't know why. But you, like you just said, you check ser no events going on in this about Emerald game, like Amerals don't get no respect. Well, so here's think about the admirals man. First of all, I shout out to the admirals man. My mentor hairs toward the

admirals are Ahl team. So if you don't follow hockey, you don't even know that they're playing, right, and they don't get They play in the Panther Arena, which is not even eighteen thousand people, maybe six thousand, so they draw a good crowd, but not a crowd that's going to cause a jam on the interstate. Oh okay, that's what I'm saying. It's crazy they win the game. They are not. They are down three games to two, so they're done. They have to three three to two,

so they're still in it. They're still in it. So they have to play in Palm Springs. But here's what's stuff about that, man. They have to go now, win a game six and seven and this will be go to the championship. This is when they'll go to the Calder Cup, which is you know, the Calder Cup, which is the championship of the AHL. So but i'm your friend because I could have said something, but

I'm your friend. Listen, y'all should know me. Not much bothers me because my job, your friend, my job bad, game is great, But your friend, I'm gonna say. Anyways, anyway, anyways, shout to my brother. I did I didn't. Oh no, I didn't because he took all the air time. No, but you start talking to me, what's going on? Man? Man? I'm good, Man, I'm good. I like your hat man, very nice. Appreciate it. Ye. Yeah, so part of the collection. You know what I'm saying.

Very nice holiday. Actually comment to my hat at church today, Not this one, man, I wore the red one with the green Bucks on the side, the original. He was like, Man, I ain't never seen that Bucks hat before. Did you give it to him? No? But what he can buy his own. What should have been like your brother, here, brother, here you go, Man, I'm good on that to sign it. No, man, we can't, you see y'a. I'll not start strucking. I don't. I don't want to. I just want

you to be like do a cop and be like here you go. Yeah, And then Drew be like, oh man, thank you. I don't think you need from me. You let me know, bamnet. There's some there. There's some certain levels of respect, the respect you give it to him things we can and can't respect. That's why he could have could have gave it. He don't want to. I won't want to. I know I got the same one. That's a nice so to complimented. So a Bucks player likes our gear. He didn't even know we had it. You

copied off of me. Kesey, I had the hat first, So you didn't, Kesey? I had the hat first, didn't Kesey? When did you get the hat? Don't make a bet with him when you get that. When did I get the hat? When did you get the hat? Like April? Beginning of April? When did the playoffs start beginning? They I went, I went to the pro shop and bought four bucks hats at

the same time. I remember when you went out already had That's why it makes MupA Now many people got the same prayer shoes he got on his feet. You haven't been wearing the same Bears shoes. Shoot on, shout out to my brother, just like with the SUV. Yes, I have a very nice black but no, you all right since you brought it up? Can we can we just can we just leave alone? You know what I'm brother where you can't say I get the last leak because I'm always get the

last So stop breaking that up. Can't you just move on? I don't know, I don't want to. Let me see. Well we're seven minutes here. We can move on. Happy Sunday. Brothers. You've been to He was no good when he came in with that Laker hat on anyways, so you want to be to move on, Let's just move on with what I didn't have a bet to wear a Lake your hat. But you from Milwaukee, you know where you don't where Chicago stuff. The exception is the

Bulls, the old Bulls. Oh, one more thing before we move on. I saw a great clip on Facebook that made me really excited. It was when Scotty Pippen was with the trail Blazers and they were up by seventeen on the Lakers, and the Lakers came back and beat them in the final three minutes. That was when Scotty was the leader of the trail Blazers. So shout out to the Lakers from twenty years ago. We're beating Scottie Pippen

and the Port and Trailblazers. Let it go on. Well, because we know that Scotty can't do it without Mike, and that tape proved it. So Mike said it. Mike said, Scottie people, my greatest teammate ever. I couldn't do it out the Scotty, absolutely, But we also know that Scotty definitely couldn't do it without Mike. There you go that too. But also, you know what, I'm not gonna let you pull me in. Did everybody know Jordan Wout Scottie Pippen was a loser and it's fine.

We need the hospitality back. Bro're fridge in the water man, y'all know you listening to bring us some water? Anyways? Um injury report, no injuries, no excuses. Uh. In other and other news around and other news around the NBA, Nick Nurse has reached an agreement to become the next

coach of the Philadelphia seventy Sixers. Uh. Nurse chose the seventy Sixers over the Philadelphia over the Phoenix Suns. Nurse wants to work with Embid and has a history with GM Darnell Mooney. What do you guys think of this pair? Again? What concerns me about Nick Nurse is that he passed on the Bucks. He passed on the Suns to go to philip I'm not convinced that Joe l. Embiide is fully bought into Phoenix, nor am I convinced Nick.

No, I'm not convinced. I'm sorry the Sixers. I'm not convinced that Embiid is going to stay there, and I'm not convinced that James Harden is going to stay there. Well, I know James Hurd is gone for show. Yeah, so Nick Nurse. This will prove if he's a good coach, because good coaches do need you need to be able to coach superstars. Joe Ellenby has missed the FNBA finals again. He can't even get to the Eastern Cameras Finals. I don't say he's never been I like Nick Nurse

with Joe Ellenby. I think Nick Nurse is a good coach, but I don't think coach in Philly is gonna be as easy as he thinks it is. Because Joe LMB is plagued by injuries. You're not going to have the same supporting cast. You gotta pay some people or get some people out of there. I like that he's loyal to the GM because again they do have history. I like it for Nick Nurse, but I don't think it's gonna be easy as he thinks it is. Do you think he can get them

over the hump? So without seeing what their roster's gonna look like, I can't really say. I think he'll be a good coach for MBA because he was a good coach for Kawhi Leonard, so I think it would be a good coach for MBAT though I don't um many this question even though Joel Embiad has one U MVP, he led the league in scoring. Um, I think we can all see that now. But even though he led the league in scoring and or, I don't know if he led the league onto his

top three, do you think? Um? What do you think as far as Mbat as an overall player? Do you think he is? I heard a commentary say he was lazy, Like he's the laziest MVP I've ever seen in my life. And to me, it goes back to like Nick Nurse isn't a player's coach, so he's not gonna coddle you. He's not gonna say, hey, good job. He's gonna be on your he's gonna be on your butt. He's gonna demand hard work. He's going to demand more of a of a Joel embat especially if James Harden isn't there. You got

Max in there. But still I don't they're gonna pretty much have the same roster. Um they're gonna ask somebody kind of, they're gonna have to find somebody to replace James Harden. But I don't see. I don't know about them getting over the second round. I think I'm kind of with you dre when you talk about like you need to see that roster um because Harden ain't given to your Harden is a free agent. They're already saying that him to

Houston is a done deal for a ridiculous amount of money. Really yeah, because I'm gonna tell you, man in me O Duco players like him and people like him. I don't know if y'all, and I don't know if this is on your docket. The coach Nia long husband, I mean Duco right kecs his name, yep, Amy Uduco. I don't know if y'all saw the recent headline. He took all the assistance from the Boston Celtics, yea, all of them. That's a team that was just in the conference

finals and a non proven rocket team. He took all the assistance. And he's a type of coach that's going to be able to draw in players and coach still, so Houston might be able to get some additional talent behind James Harden, perhaps Za Kyrie Urban. I don't know what that dynamic is like with him and James Harden. So with Harden not being in Philly, I don't know if the seventy six are is good. That's just me. Honestly,

I don't know if it's good without James Harden, They're not. No. He draws a lot of tension, even though he ain't who he used to be. He draws a lot of tension which allows him be to be as successful as he is. He can get you twenty five, but when Harden is there, that twenty five is way easier. Agree. I agree with that. I just don't feel like I do feel like Nick Nurse seeing a good GM. He's seeing a future Hall of Fame players, Like I

can work with this. Him passing up the Bucks and him passing up Phoenix. To me, it's screen. It's to me. It says a lot about their team. But I wasn't too high on Nick Nurse. I was. I was cool with it, but I wasn't like too high on this. I wasn't like tripping, But everybody in the NBA wanted Nick Nurse. He was a top candidate. I think Nick Nurse is a decent coach. But at the same time, I was watching Um the Gill Show M and he was just like, how do all of these superstars keep getting all of

these none what do you call them? Hall of Famer coaches. None Hall of Fame coaches. Yeah, what happened to all the Hall of Famer coaches? They assistance? They're assistant again, old because the bug, how do you be? How do you be a Hall of Famer coach? Are you assistant? Now? Well, because sometimes you have to prove yourself back. You have to prove yourself back. It happened to Frank Lawrence. It happened

to Mike D'Antoni. It happened to uh PJ. Carlissimo. It happened too what's the black coach they used to coach for New Orleans before Minnie Williams like Lenny Now not Lenny will be. Lenny's an old school coach. Um Alvin Gentry, I'm sorry, Oh no, it happened to Alvin Gentry. So it happens. Terry Stotts is now a new assistant for Milwaukee. He was a head coach for twelve years. Report So once you've lost that kind of leading, uh, it happened to Tyron lou Tyron LOUI became an assistant again

for Doc Rivers. Once you become kind of that head guy and you lose a lot, you go back to the rotation, you gotta start all over. It sucks though it's terrible. I mean head coaching. We really didn't get into it. But like head coaching overall in the NBA, it's a terrible job. And that's why I feel like a lot of our superstars, like they said, a lot of our superstars are not fulfilling their full potentials because they don't have those type of coaches no more. I think they don't.

They don't respect coaching altogether. Um, A lot of these guy come into it like I wish, I wish him would tell me what to do. Just think of it like this. Think of think of it like Yannis had a coach like Phil Jackson. How much more you think he would have developed knowing that he went from Michael Jordan to Kobe Bryant to now I got Yannis on the coombo. I mean that's true, but just think of how how him knowing because Mike is one of the biggest ass you can probably have

as a coach, right, think about it? Yes, and no, come on, man, everybody know that. Come on, I don't I know that. But I'm saying, like, if anything, Phil Jackson got Mike to buy in, so if he can get Mike to buy in,

Yes, arguably, but who one of the worst teammates. But but the thing about to think about that is this to me, to me to think about that is this, when you talk about that, you talk about it goes even deeper because we have two coaches in NBA Finals right now, he and Mike Malone and Eric Spostra, where the ownership was like and the gym was like, you know what, I'm gonna stick it through with this coach. You can't because Eric Stostra to be gone and should have got whatever name

is, he should have got fired like a while ago. But Pat pat Rod was like, noticed, my guy, why, which means why why should he been fired? A long time? A su Miami has made the playoffs literally every season under Eric Spostra. They won four titles under Eric Spostra. Why should he have been fired? Okay, number one? The title Lebron James don't count. I can win the title with Lebron James. You can, yes, you can name he ain't did it. Who who's your

coach? Now? Army Ham didn't do it. Ham didn't do it. This is an old Lebron David Black didn't do it, come on Prime, Lebron, David Black didn't, Yes, he did. Black didn't not do it, No, he did not. Luke Walton didn't. You want to bet that one? Oh, I'll bet that one on the table. You want to bet that one, Okay, because you know you can so you can snatch your Walter, so you can snatch your wallet. Mike Brown did not get one either. By Brown didn't move that. That coach did?

He got after Tyron Lou won because he got five four the four coaches that coach Lebron, Tyron Lou got one. Eric Spostra got to and um, who's the guy that Frank Voco got it in the bubble? Yeah, so that's three, right, that's four, that's four four. Eric Spostra is the epitome of the grow your own culture. He started in Miami. That culture. That culture is pat Riley. No, the coach is, the culture is pat Riley. Cultural is loyalty. Did y'all watch pat Riley?

Did y'all watch the Greg pop of it? Y'all got to watch the Gil show? What come on? What is it? It's on YouTube? You did it? Um? Daryl Wright was talking about the Miami heat culture they got it down to like you could only have a certain amount of body fat or you get fined by the team. Yeah, or you don't get in the rotation. Yeah. Jimmy Butler was like, they run. They do have a they run a military style kind of thing, where like everybody, I don't care how much money you may, you run it. If you

don't want you to run, be running. Jimmy and Jimmy Jimmy thrives in that. So when you talk about culture and you talk about coaching, and that's what kind of irritates me about Jimmy. Jimmy is a hard work, That's what. Yeah. So, but what I'm saying is everybody can't thrive in that. And my thing about the whole culture and the whole coaching situation is you're the person behind you has to be like you know what, I like you, I'm gonna stick with you no matter what the situation is.

And that's what he That's what he was. So as far as Miami building the culture, that culture starts with pat Riley and it trickles down since not Eric Spostra developing the culture. You don't you know who you know who could say I developed a culture here. It's uh, it's pop pop can say I developed a culture here? That's crap. How that is crap? Because if Eric Sposter lost and Miami would have lost to the Bucks in the first round, y'all have been calling for his head. No, he's a a

ced he barely got in. Why would I call for the head meaning he's out of here? He got swept in the playoffs before, did he did? He not? He did the Bucks swepting. Okay, he got title and then he got beat in But the year before that he was in the finals and the No, he wasn't. He was in the bubble and the bubble that's the last name. He was in the finals. And what happened I sweat And what happened in the finals they lost to the Lakers for one

on one. So hey, that's okay. So my point is other coaches have been getting fired. But since that type of the bubble, we got beat twice by Miami, like we got beat this year. Yes, yes, yes, we had four one for one, so both times in the last three years. So let what I'm saying to you, argued argument Jones. What I'm saying to you is supposed to put in work. And here's the thing they keep haslum has been around as long as he has because of

two reasons. He's the enforcer on that team, like the sergeant Arms and because of loyalty. The Miami Heat would have gave Lebron James the keys to the kingdom. Heck they did that. Wayne Wade took about a robbin approach, but Lebron. But Lebron felt the need to make things right in Cleveland. I'm glad he did. Eric Spostra, Greg Popovich, Mike Malone are the last of a dying breed. Those guys will be a part of those

organizations for as long as they want. Another one is Brad Stevens. Although he's trash that he got promoted, they are They are loyal to Brad. Dude is the only coach I had to lose the seasion that got promoted. What does that have to do? Does that have to do with what I'm saying. It has to do with it. Because players trust their coaches. Superstars get coaches fired, not gms believe the high pip you want to blood ain't there because of Yannis. David Black wasn't there because of Lebron Okay,

Phil Jackson stayed as long as he did because of Michael. Okay, the whole Chicago Bulls dynasty was destroyed because of the late Jerry Krauss did not want to commit to Phil Jackson. You commit to Phil Jackson, you got Michael, Jordan and Pippin possibly for another three pete run or that's what I'm saying, or well, I think, first of all, every situation is different.

In Chicago, situations different. My thing is I don't want to get I'm not I still can't sit here and give all the credits to Eric's stroll struck. I'm not saying give him all the credits. I'm saying give him his flowers. Eric Sposer is a definition of a good coach. The reason we be is a decent The reason Miamius is because of coaching. I don't know that's not true, that's not true. But was our coach Casey was? But our coached or not? I don't think that's I don't think that's

true. I don't think that's true. But our coached or not? But was our coach? Yeah? That's serious, yes, but I don't think that's I don't think that we've seen it twice. I know, I know it was not in a game at that time, and he got out. Coach his hips to bottom. Not only not only was his heading in the game, players weren't not in game in the game either. That's because they

quit on their coach. And my thing is, like Miami in this run has been we wanted more, but I don't, and we're gonna We're gonna play like we wanted. I don't think the players gave up. I think it was more of I think in Philadelphia they gave up. He didn't. He didn't give up rotations. He didn't he didn't do the right rotations. Players would put in positions whether they wasn't successful. It's the coach's job to put your team in positions they be successful, and Bud didn't do that.

But especially like even with the Jay crowd of situation, how he played seven minutes in two games. When you trade half the team for him, you know what I mean. Thing, You traded all of this for him to come in and play that PJ. Tucker role and you don't even use them that way or sat on the bench. That's bad coaching. I want to say. I don't want to sit here and say all of this is on. But and you finished the game was with with three times three or three

time outs? Yes, there was some bad decision man, and you let Grayson Allen take the last shot with Middleton holiday on the floor. Well, support coaching. I mean, my thing is this, I believe. I always believe it's fifty fifty. Coach can draw it up how he wants to me. It's fifty fifty. Coach can draw it up how he wants to But it's up to the player to um to put it in motion. So as far as like Jimmy Butler, I got my best defensive player on this

guy. He giving them buckets. I don't know what else to do. Now, do I believe that Budd made bad decisions? Yes? I do made Budd made bad decision. You got three times out, you got six minutes to go, you you not call a one. You're just watching it go by. That's what got the coach fire before him. So I get that part. Was it Jason Kidd? I mean, JA might have been Jason Kidd. It was Jason Kiddy. It was Jason Kidd. It's Jason Kidd. Yeah, who was the coach before Budd, Jason Kidd. No,

oh, no, it wasn't Jason Kidd. Was it was? I don't forgot I want um oh no, Scott Scotts was a minute ago. It wasn't. But what's the due name the coach? Wasn't it black coach? Dude from uh Larry Drew? No, no, Heretic Mill. No, we didn't have mll. It was Jason Kidd. It was Jason Kidd, and then they had Joe Prunty halfway through the season. They fired Jason

Kidd in the middle of the season. Ok so, but has been here five years day in a minute, um Monie Williams and the Detroit Pistons have breached a six year, seventy eight point five million dollars dude to be the next head coach. Let's clap just for the money. I just want to clap. The deal could the deal could reach one hundred million dollars in incentives. This is the largest This is the largest coaching deal in NBA history.

He is making more money than any player on the Detroit Pistons roster. What do we think about this? I'm gonna let Kissy go, but one line I want to say before my brother goes, that's a lot of pressure. Dot. I'm happy he got his money, but that's a lot of pressure. Piece. My thing is he turned it down, and it was like he turned it down initially turned out he turned into what I'm saying. He

the first time going around he was like, now I'm good. Yeah, and it was like, well we got the bag, yeah, how much? Yeah? I just don't understand how, how? What? Or why? Why? Which mean why? It's been it's been known for coaches to make three to four million dollars a year, maybe five to seven if you really did, but to go in the category that they're going in. First of all, we've basically saying they're trying to shift the power back over to

the coaches and out of the players with that move. Have you seen a roster? Is that a statement that they're trying to make to their players. That's my thing. I think I'm paying him this so you better listen. I feel like they're paying him this amount of money because number one, they're desperate. Number two, they're trying to turn the franchise around. I will say Mighty Williams is a voice that players do um come into and him.

But he turned around the Phoenix, that Phoenix suns organization. But turn turn around. The deal is six year, seventy eight million dollars guaranteed. That's guaranteed. That guaranteed, that could also reach up to one hundred million dollars and incentives and up to eight and up to two extra years is extra thirteen thirteen a year. So so what it tells me is that Detroit they're invested in him. But here's the thing. You would think the man is Phil

Jackson for Steve kerr An a proven winner? Is he not? I don't see the rings on them fingers don't remember they got the gentyman sweep from the Bucks. They got the gyman sweep from the Bucks. And then after he went to thet to me, to me, this is more on Phoenix than it is them and the finals this year. See, here's the thing. To me, this is on Phoenix more than them because Phoenix he took them from cool to entertaining to a contender. And as all as a coach,

that's all you as an organizations, all you can ask for. Now us we as fast. I want a championship. I want a championship. Now here's the thing. If I'm gonna choose over Monty or the DeAndre Ayden. I'm choosing Monty. They chose the ladder, they went they we choose an Aden. I'm like, all right, cool whatever. I think he's gonna bite you on the butt later. But I think they gonna trade them bright still he is gonna trade the Dallas bound. But but but to your point,

Manti Williams turned the franchise around. But we played basketball to win titles and for you to shell out that kind of money on Monty, you have now set a dangerous precedence in the NBA. But other coaches, Oh man, you think so. I don't think no other coach worth that. So Manti Williams is getting thirteen. Craig Popovich, let's get a little, is getting eleven and a half. Quit retired? No, he did not. He just got the number one draft picked that everybody retired. Greg Papa vishould

not retire. Come on, Zee, that's two bad stacks in the same podcast. Stop it. The San Antonio Spurs coach did not retire. Okay, Steph Steve Kerr, you better praise Jesus Steve Kerr nine point five million dollars a year, Eric Spostra eight point five, Rick Carlisle seven point five, and Bud was making seven or nine million dollars as well. So I'm happy that Matti Williams got his bag. But that is some serious pressure.

Doc. You would think Matti Williams is coming with the triangle offense, Michael Jordan, Jesus Christ, Steph Curry, Lebron James, and everyone else. So what I will say is Detroit is a young core of talent. Manti is known to, as you said, to allow players to buy, to help years buy into his philosophy. But Detroit not moving nothing in the east and Mantia and that twelve million Detroit gonna regret that because by year three, if they don't make the playoffs or have a deep run, they're gonna be

calling for his head. And you're gonna owe that man nearly one hundred million dollars. I don't think so. I don't think so think de traite wing to get turned around. They are. So he hasn't retire, But that's just the rumors that always happened every year the older he gets. Yeah, he is not retired. He's gonna coach his new dude and to be the next Tim Duck and the man. People hope, people hope. I'm not saying and I ain't seen the Man play. I'll see him in the Summer

League next month. But he's They're banking on Greg Pop to bring the Spurs another title within the next three to four years. They overpay him. MONI yes, I don't think something. Yes, I don't think something. If I'm Pop, I'm saying, man, trade him and get me two superstars right now. Yeah, that's true too, That's what I would do. I want to finish my career with two superstars. I don't to do this

all over again. This is a five year process. Yeah, to get him where he needs to be. It's five years or Tim Duncan run Rookie of the Year and the title his rookie year. And Tim Duncan's not Tim Duncan. I didn't say he was. You don't even got the body frame of Tim. I didn't say he was. I'm just saying Pop coaches players and we don't even we don't even know if he got the heart of Tim

Duncan yet. Well, Tim Duncan is gonna be his coach position. Coach Tim Duncan, my new Genobli. They're all coming together to coach and train him at um. Are you sure? Yes? On the North of June and twenty twenty two, you're saying that twenty three whatever. You're saying that this new guy, what's his name exactly, it's just hard to remember his name because it's long. I don't know, but you're saying, the future number one pick of the NBA. We gotta get this on. Let's get

his name, let's get this. I'm doing this. What you're doing this for? I mean you used to haven't paid? We used to asking the laker? Had I think I swept? Uh wow? So no, no, no answer the question. I'm not taking anything. Victor won by yam win ban Yama. Victor win ban Yama. You're saying that he's gonna be a bust. Ain't saying he's gonna be a bust. But you're saying he's not gonna live to the thing I can keep seeing. I'm gonna be honest

with you. Only thing I keep thinking about when I see him, every time I watch him play. They're they're they're nice looking. He reminds me of chet Holm chet chet chet holgram over in Okay, see the rookie who has not played a game yet because he ran out to Lebron James and the Drew League. Not that he failed on him, he ran into him and he has not played a game since. I mean, when you My thing is this, we're probably getting into this in our season. He's he's he's

very thin. These these athletes in the league are strong and are very muscle. He's stan he thin. He really mean so, and we're gonna I wanna, I'm gonna get really I really want to get into this next week and we will. The landscape of the NBA. The landscape of the NBA right now is if you're tall and you can shoot threes, you the next big thing. And my thing is that has yet to pan out. It's working for Joker. It's working for Joker. But Joker had the number one

put in time number not that much time. How when did he get drafted that much? When did he get drafted that much time? Like five, like two thousand and eighteen, something like that. Keep in mind he was a low draft pick. He was very low draft pick, and everything about him has still been the same. He just has bulked up. He still can't jump Joker got drafted in twenty fourteen. In twenty fourteen, so nine years so n like the last five. No, he's been joking for the

last three. No, he's been down. I'm telling you right now. If I'm if I'm the Spurs, I'm telling you right now, you see, I'm give me two superstars in a draft pick, and you can have him. So why not on the future, In the words of the Bucks, why not work with him and let him grow and develop? Because the history of the NBA with these guys and this body type does not pay. They do not last a long time. They don't pan out well. But y'all don't y'all don't think he can. Greg Old Chris Persin gets um.

They have a couple of good years. But after that, we'll say, get that first injury, it's hard for them to come back, and they keep on piling on too. I'm telling you right now, if I'm if I'm the GM over it in San Antonio, I'd rather take a gamble on Lebron James and uh Anthony Davidson trade. Hm, let's not get crazy. So but Monnie Williams, did he get overpaid? Yeah? Huh overpaid? Money. Williams, Oh, well, well, Overpa, I could have seen the sick. I could have seen fifty five. My thing is there,

if you're gonna sev me to Detroit, you're gonna pay me. Oh, you're gonna pay me. Nobody want to live in Detroit. Nobody want. Oh you're gonna pay me. But also terrible. It's the outskirts. You know what I'm saying. But you gotta what you gotta remember he coming from Arizona. We're a hot year around and he used to win in So if you'm if I'm gonna come in here, you'll gonna pay me. They can't. They probably came around that first out. I had about how about

fifty two? How about no? And then he was like, all right, we got seventy eight. He's like, nah, it's an unappointment. Nah. He probably came in, well you was minded to Turkey? How much? They probably they probably they probably came in at seventy and then Monty was like, I need I need any and they was like, all right, well they will give you seventy eight point five and then when it we'll give you some. He's like, what if I make the playoffs? There?

What if I win in Eastern Conferences. He's like, we'll throw some more in there com out. Well, that's how coaches and players do That's how players do it. That's why they're always gunning for All first team, All second team, right, all thirteen. You know, John Morant lost what almost forty billion dollars because of his little little baby gun. So coaches should also be able to build in incentives in their contract. Yep, I'm not mad at the incentives. I'm mad at the number. That's a lot

of money. That's a lot of guaranteed money. Or an unproven coach just say, how's he unproven? Has not won the title? So you mean to tell me just because you want haven't won the title, you are unproven. And also you got to remember there's no one of the caliber of Devin Booker on that roster, or Chris Paul or Kevin Durant you got because he was you talking about Phoenix coming him, You're talking about of them have the caliber of twas coming. He's nothing coming. Now. He got a long

way to go. I watched him play A long way to go Lo Lo lotle way to go Kay. Speaking of Phoenix Suns, Frank Vogel is in tern is in uh. He is has reached a long term agreement to be the next head coach. Thoughts of whoos they hired Frank Vogel He won a championship in the bubble. He won a championship Bubble, he won a championship. He won a championship in the bubble? What that mean? The not? Is it not on the stat this I am a champion. So are

the Admirals in twenty twenty during the pandemic when they canceled the season. Yeah, so I am surprised. Let me just say this, this is Kadi's fourth coach in four years. It is It's not his fault. How did this fund saying? Is it a fun you you made up? Sometimes coaches aren't the problem. Sometimes it's the players. It's kd culturable requestion. I really hope he is. I really hope he can at the Golden State. And if he does, what it's gonna be your reaction? But continue,

Oh I'm gonna hate it. I'm gonna hate it. Yeah, absolutely gonna hate it. I hated it when not enough? Uh. Frank Vogel is if he coached Lebron to a title, he coached Anthony Davis. I think we can say he's a star. Now you're talking about me. Look at his face. I think we can say that Frank Vogel is a superstar coach. He might be good for KD, but KD is no Lebron. But you gotta remember that's a toxic situation over there. How every anywhere kad you

go is toxic. Anywhere. You gotta remember, you got Khe not to mention the eighton situation Chris Bass, Chris bas situation Chris. Both of them is probably on their way out the door. Chris Devin Booker is halfway out the door. No, I think so they everybody is all a step for Katie almost so Kadie for the end up in another situation, everybody gonna leave him. How toxic would that be for Vogo to have to come in and

deal with that. That's the only reason that you would sign him. I would think if you Phoenix some other coaches you can go with besides Vogel, Vogels look like the fall guy for everything that's about to happen, over everything. He was a far guy in LA. I give you a title when you let me go to the next year. Come on, man, that's fine, that's fine. But we gave him two years and he blew it

both years. At least we gave him two two times. Frank Vogel, I do not think that's gonna be a good fit because k k D needs coaches that are I think Steve Kerr was a tough coach. Oh man, please Steve. Steve Kerr is coasting off the cape of Steph Curry. Let Kurr is today's Phil Jackson, right he what meaning? He had old Field? You to an old field. Anybody that didn't get up, anybody could have coached Jordan and to the title. Okay, that's what I'm saying about

Steve. Okay, that's I'm saying. I mean, people don't respect it's it's hard to say that. And here's why I'm gonna disagree with myself. Because until Field came, Michael didn't win. And Tip Field came, the Lakers didn't win. That's okay. Until Steve Kerr came, the Warriors didn't win. Is it? Is it false? Prove it it's not false? Is it false? Gas? Because a lot you know what it is now, a lot of the coaches don't even got no real schemes. So it's

just like they playing motion basketball. And so Frank Vogel, that's what the league is now, Frank Frank Vogel, is that that was a commercial. I'm sorry, Frank Vogel. Stop stop making noise. Frank Man, it's gonna be all of the park. You've been talking to us, he brood. Really, that's what we do it. You're sacking the table, ke

see, don't slap the table again. Gonna break it. Uh, Frank Vogel, I don't think he's a terrible coach, but KD Man, I don't know that he's that special coach that K I think KB can be coach. I think it's everybody around k be. KD picks bad situations. He picks really bad situations. To be really honest with you, he should have stayed in Brooklyn, should stayed in Golden State. I hated it, but if he wanted to just ride out his career as the champion, he should

have stayed in Golden State. But that on our episode of The Sensitives, we knew that it is Raymond Greene fault. It is, But Frank bog I don't I don't too much care for Keys what you think. I thought it was funny, But I see what you're saying. Key. I can see him being the scape goal for everything that goes wrong in that organization. That's what I'm saying. That's all I can see. If everything's gonna hit the fan, like I'm thinking it's gonna hit the fan over there in Phoenix,

he's the scapego Monte got out just in time. I think they have an opportunity, though, to change things around if they If they can get a good pick up for Chris Paul, and they can get a good pick up for eight. But the question is can Vogel get them to buy in to what his what he gonna say. For some oddball reason, he got the Lakers to buy in enough winning championship. Yes, brother, Gardless is

in the bubble. I want that because Lebron ate Lebron's IQ, because we already well it's just like the Bucks boot and we don't want because a booten Holser. We want, we want. No, we did. He made adjustment. We no, we did. He made Ajust he wont because of Yannest. He made adjustment. Y'all have saved us. Yannest came and saved us and drew Holiday with the steel he adjustments barely made a just So what I'm saying is, how come it's okay for Vogel butnot but but continue?

Kis continue? What do you mean Lebron's IQ won that title. Every every championship that Lebron James is one has never been because of the coach. Let's cut the craft here. I've said that many times. Coaching Lebron James is easy as so I'm gonna draw it up for y'all. Lebron's gonna go here, he's gonna pick up the ball. He's gonna pick up that path. Once he pick up that pass. You hit the corner, You hit the corner, clear the lane, somebody big behind him. All you gotta do

is get in your spots and latch Lebron James work. You know any time that works, Fresh Prince, just pass it to Will. Yeah, just pass it Lebron And I wish Trump now back in the day when it was Jordan, they said it. They just what was the game playing that last play with Michael Jordans as Michael the damn ball? What posed to say here? What are we talking about here? We know who the ball is going to get Lebron the ball? That's what about d Way? What about d

Way? He was a part of that championship at work. Yeah, yeah, But who are we all focused on? It's always Lebron's name about Yeah, Chris Bosh is there too? What that mean we focused on Lebron? Who's Lebron gonna pass the ball to? Is Lebron gonna take it to the rack? Actually had the ball in his hands in the game, and he didn't give it to get to the double tend No, didn't give it to the get it to lebra knew it was up Nad won't said it. I

knew it was up. He Way though he was the closing, Lebron wasn't to run the whole game. Oh man, Man, don't be that guy. Everybody know Wayne Way was the closer. Well. Last week Sunday, I think it was Sunday. Last week, the Miami Heat beat down the Boston Celtics one h three to eighty four and a Game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals. After the game, Charles Barkley said, the Boston Celtics played bad basketball. They are so undisciplined and un unfuntamentally sound. They win games

strictly on talent. What are you guys thoughts. I think he's spot one. Barley said the bossons Hell just played bad basketball. They also so undisciplined, unfortunately sound they win games strictly on talent. I think he's right on point. I agree. I think he is, and I think it ran out when they ran across a good coach like Sposial. Oh God, here we go. It's not. I feel it. It's not. It's the only reason they won those games to get back in the series is because Miami

was dog tired. It was because they were playing guys, the same guys, the same seven guys played all game, and on top of that, they really should have lost Game six, Oh Boston. Yeah. So, like, my my thing is Miami was Miami, And I think Jimmy Butler knew, I'm not scared of these guys. I'm not scared of these guys. I'm not worried about these guys. Even when they was up three nothing three one three two three three, it was like, I'm not worried about

these guys. That affect that, y'all. They blew them out the water at home in a Game seven is crazy. Now, I can see if y'all lost by like two at the buzzer or whatever the case may be, that mean y'all even fight. And you know, people want to put out there that Jason Tatum sprained his ankle in the first quarter. I don't want to hear that crap. I don't want to hear about Robert Williams throwing up and being I don't hear that crap. This is a game seven. Chuck

it up, swallow, you'll throw up and keep it moving. Really, you twist your ankle, you tape it up, you keep it moving, because this is game seven. This is These people, especially these light skinned folks, coming with this mamba mentality pisses me off because it's a disrespectful to Kobe. Kobe played with broken hands, broken fingers, sprain ankle, torn achilius. He played with the injuries like he was a dog. But you know what it is, though, And for you to see here, Tom,

some mama mentality. Uh was it apologetically the best player in the world whatever shirt he was wearing, Oh, humbly, the best player in the world. I'm like, dude, shut up. You can't talk crazy when you first of all, you was down three nothing to an ABC. Then you lose getting Now now only did you lose, you got blue out at home Game seven, blew out. So my question to you guys, is Boston bench as deep as they said it was? Of course it isn't I

go back once again, remember how we said that our beaches too. I go back right, not to me, but so do you blame coaching in that situation? It's a hundred percent this situation. The Boston's Celtics beat the Milwaukee Bucks by forty points a week before the playoffs began. The Boston Celtics breathe through the playoffs, but they didn't play nobody. I don't think they breathe through the players they played Philly. I don't thinky breathed through the play

I think Atlanta to Atlanta took them to six four. To Philly took them to six fourt Okay, I'll give you that. But what I'm saying is they didn't have to work as hard as they did in the conference finals. Like it's the eighth seat Miami, the Miami Heat again, coaching matters. Jimmy Butler is on another plan and arguably the best playoff basketball player of his error the Boston Celtics. It all came down to coaching, because think about

it, it didn't come down to coaching. I'm gonna tell you what it boil down to. Are you as good as shooters as y'all led people to believe all season? Expositional exposed them. Let's see if y'all gonna beat us in a series? Shot like that is terrible. Let's see if y'all are going to beat us the series? Shoot all them threes like y'all normally do. Yeah, And they were exposed Tatum Jumper and as as lethal as they thought it was, Brown Jumper and as Aletho as they thought it was,

Marcus Smart and as lethal as they thought it was. I'll tell you this, man, the best player on that series, on that team, to me was Derek White all series, and I'll tell you this what it did for me though, Uh, to Chuck is not one hundred percent wrong, But we need to stop crowning everybody superstars just because they have a good game. You are you? Are you taking away the title of superstar? Label a superstar on Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I never called Jaylen Brown a

superstar, never ever have I he's a star. Jayson Tatum, he's a star, he's not a superstar. Superstars get it done, Kesey, superstars get it done. They get it done. That's two years in a row. Yeah. If they have made it to the three years in a row, three years in a row, four years in a row, thank you,

because they lost last year when they should have won it. Remember, everybody picked them to beat the Warriors here before that, here before that, they didn't get it done, and they beat the heck out the Bucks, rem beat the heck out of us. Didn't get it done, and even before the seven right, and without Middleton, without Middleton, So we are overly critical. If Lebron missed a free throw in a regular season game, nah yeah, yeah, nah yeah they I'm not even talking about Boston and

Tatum and them like that. So if that was but if that was Lebron and them, yeah, number one, I blame you for this. Well no, because this isn't because they given him the same title. Right, he's a super show like Lebron. Right, let's hop on his heels because they were. They hopped, They show hopped on Yanni's heels. They hopped on Yanni's heels, if you especially after he got on TV and said the season wasn't a failure. Yes it was, okay if you think it was.

If you think they didn't hop on Jen Brown, they did not, and Jason Tatum. But yeah they did, Yes they did, nowhere near, Yes they did, they did, nowhere near. What are you talking about? All week? There's been talk up, do you break the duo? Up? Do you pay Jalen Brown? Let them go? They only talking about the money, that's it. I know. They're not talking about the game that they played and how horrible they looked. Ye oh yeah they're

not. All They keep talking about who're gonna get paid? And who ain't That's what I'm talking about, Yeah, who working painting? And who wait? But also talking about tell them the king ain't the king? Tell them get them Yannas sain't a superstar like they thought, and all you gotta do is pack the paint to beat Yannest. Yes, that's all they kept saying, over and over and over and over. They figured out Yanni, they

figured out his game. But but Miami did the exact same thing they do to Yanni, to Tatum and Brown, and they looked horrible that they're supposed to be jump shooters, right right. So what I'm saying is like the Bucks have to earn our trust back at being a championship team. Bus start a championship team, they have to they have to earn that Jason Tatum, you need to earn that superstardom, bro, because you're not one of them. Got the Dogs get it? They're not worth the money that they're getting

paid. We're talking about half a billion dollars for two players who got shut out, not just in Game six and seven, but arguably the series. Okay, game four loss was a fluke, right, Miami was tired. Game five, yeah, Game six, d eight got what do y'all say? Hesy's favorite line even the dogs sometimes on the Dogs sometimes That's what it did for Boston. And because we were I think we watched it together, we were major Gooseby and we all were like, that didn't go in?

It was like like what did who saved them? Though, uh, you're white white he was the savior. Awesome. But the thing about the thing about it is, and this is the fact he was just he would just savel for them all playoffs. If you really look at it. Yeah, But my thinking about it is Tatum had numbers. Don't get me wrong, he had numbers. He had numbers, but they were not fourteen eleven the final game. They weren't. Um if not fourteen points in your final game,

but you're a superstar. They weren't efficient. Scooby, If you're listening, we don't apologize, you know, Scooby, maybe shout out schools. Well, if you're listening, we don't school for how bad your favorite team is. My thing, my thing is um. My thing is that I agree with everything y'all saying here, because superstars do show up, um my, and I do believe that. I believe that Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown was getting flack. Um. It depends on what you're listening to. Is

how much the flat they were getting. Um. But to me, this whole playoffs them when they played in Miami, and Miami did the same thing they did everybody else like they they I don't care how challenged you are, you still have to go out there and play hard. And to me, Boston was coasting off their talent. That's how they beat Philadelphia. But also think Philadelphia put on their coach. Um. I didn't expect them to beat the Knicks. Nothing Knicks. I'm sorry, I didn't expect them. Like

the Miami outplayed the Bucks. They outhustled us, they outplayed us. The when Miami came to New York, I didn't expect I expected Miami to beat New York because I don't, you know whatever. And um then you got uh when they when they came to Boston, they just outplayed them. They really just outplayed them and out hustled and out and wanted it more. And the thing that killing me is because Jason Tatum and jay Len Brian. If y'all take the way, if you take it back to talent, you have

to look at do y'all want it? Derek White wanted it. You can tell by his energy. You can tell by the way he would is hustling. I wanted that contract. Al Harford, he wanted it. He was playing, he was giving out there, giving effort, but he owed. Did you hear what he said at the end of his press conference? So Al Horford, this season was a failure because we didn't win the title. Oh yeah, of course, I think Janas is just saving face. But

and then you got, uh, Greg with that Grant Williams. Grant Williams out another guy who wanted it, who wanted it, he could tell by his effort. And so my thing was my thing has always been Boston just talented. And so we're looking at that, like there, you're very talented. So we're looking at we let the other stuff slide, and it caught up with him finally. So I mean, going back to the questions that has been asked all week, do you break up the duel and do you

pay Jason Brown Jaalen Brown? No, he doesn't get the max. Nope, one of them gotta go and then it ain't gonna be take them. So let's see what we can get for Brown. Jesus, you almost have to do a signing trade for Brown because otherwise the Celtics will lose him for nothing hit they'll be lebron because I think Brown wants a MAX still and unfortunately the max he may have to pull up James Harden and go to a sucky team to try to see if they they can pull it off. And Boss,

I'm asking, should that half a billion dollars eague? Yeah? No, yes, to lose and not win titles? Fine, fine, if you want to remain the status quo. Fine, pay the man. I pay man. You don't want to pay nobody, not you. You won't pay nobody. You don't pay pay Steph. You can pay Joker. You wouldn't paid people. You wouldn't pay people that you would have a lot of incentives in there. If I don't get a title within the first five years,

I'm taking away seventy five million dollars. Seventy five million. We still gotta pay if they don't win. Right, my season tickets didn't get a disc call. They went up. Still, they went up, and I still they made a payment since we lost. Mmm, you can make one though. I'm gonna get my stuff, but they're gonna they're gonna need to swept this one out. I need to see what we're doing, so, uh do not. You can't pay both of them. The Tatum Brown experience

has been tried and it's fails. My question is, take the back. Who do you get for Brown though? Sign him to him? What do you do? Sign both of them to Max Dials and then trade him Brown to let's say, maybe Phoenix, I mean not Phoenix, trade him to Uh? What about? What about Tatum and Tatum and a Lillard combination.

How would that look? Let's word on the street about that, lear about it and and I don't know if it's on your docket since we got it a little later, but Dan Dave Lillard has listed his Portland home itself. I don't think that means his name thing, but I think it means a lot because when Lebron put his clear from the house on sale, everybody knew what time it was. It ain't know what time it was bo he put the house on sale the first time he went to Miami, the second time

he went to la. When players put their homes up for sale, it means the door is not He's trying to see what the market is like. Yeah, okay, he wants to be a real estate agent. Now he's just trying to see what the market looking on. Hey, Isaiah, don't don't drink this poison, but go ahead and see what the points. I'm just saying, just trying to see what's out there. Yeah, so for

so we get ready for his next team. So so I'm well, I guess my question is this it was I think it was on first take, there was like this type of money is made for the number one option. We know what bost We know who Boston number one option is is Jason Tatum? Yep. Does Jalen Brown deserve this type of money, whether it's from Boston or from somebody else, No, he does not. He's not a number one option, so he doesn't deserve the number one deserves a nice check,

but not no Max deal. Hm. I like Brown, but not a Max deal. Okay, because um on first take mad dog Russo these players are better than Jaylen Brown? Are you for the name them? Yes? Do you want us to say agree or disagree? Yes? Okay? Kevin Durant agree. Better than Jaylen Brown agree? Kevin Durant agree, Joel and Be agree agree, Steph Curry agree, Jason Tatum agree, agree, Jannis agree? Agree? Who is this guy? Booker? He said these

guys are better than Jaylen Browner agree? Hold hold up, hold up, wait wait wait, I'm gonna say this partially agree, but Jaylen Brown is slightly more consistent, Dude Booker slightly more. But Devin Booker is a bucket. Would you rather have consistency or a bucket? I'm asking y'all, I'm gonna take Booker over Brown. Okay. Who Kawai Leonard right now, right

now, I'm sticking with Kawai. I'm sticking with Kauhi. He's sticking with Kauai because if Kauai can get in the right coaching system and play every other game, he can play twenty games. You don't need them every other game. He went a title for Toronto playing every other game. Casey fucker. Right now, man ain't play the full season. I don't know how long, but continue. But when he's on the court, though, he's better than Jaylen Brown. Yeah, okay, Joker, definitely, three times should

be three times in a row. MVP. Yeah yeah, Luca No, no, oh, you're so fullish. No, I'm taking Jaylen Brown over Luca. Don't play defense, Lucas. Luca doesn't play defense. Jaylen Brown can lock you up? What lock you're where? Mcdowells. Jaylen Brown could play better defense than he couldn't even get chickil A. I'm going with Jaylen Brown. Jimmy Butler, I'm gonna go with Jaylen Brown except for playoff. Jimmy has been different than this year. Playoff Jimmy has been dealing. But

I'm gonna go with jay. I'm going with Jimmy, are you yeah, I'm with jim I'm gonna go with Jimmy. I'll take Jimmy over over Jaylen anyway, I'm gonna take I'm gonna go with Jai Brown. SAG I means s g A Shan shan gil just aleaxanm there. I'm gonna go with h Jaylen Brown. I'm going with jay Len Brown. That one? Really Yeah? Murray? Which one? Jamal Brown? I'm going Brown Murray? Really Murray is having a comeback season. Ask me this question again. Next year

it might change. So you can't. You can't be too high on comeback players because sometimes it's just the momentum and you gotta make sure that I think I think we just we don't pay it. We just haven't been paying attention. It's like being good in Sacramento. Told you, are you good? I know, I know Murray is good, but Jaylen Brown is a different good. M uh Donovan Mitchell, Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown, Kay, Paul George, Jaylen Brown. Playoff pe is just as bad. Playoff pe

is just as bad. I don't see before you ask, I'm going with Paul George. I don't see. Maybe, but you're win Kawa, but you win Kawa, not your four feet Nation helped me see this. Y'all can text me, y'all can at me. McDonalds. What's up, sister Sheila. Thank you for being a loyal listener. She's known us since we were kids. Out. I don't know if y'all remember she's known us since we were kids. I don't see the hype in Paul George. What is

it? Why does everybody like him? He's just as bad as Jason Tatum. He doesn't finish the playoffs either. He can't win big games either. He is a robbin on every team he goes to. I'm going with Jaylen Brown. I'm sorry. I'm going with playoff pe. I like playoff pe Man. I'll play a little bit too. H Morant, John, what's John you talking about? On the quarter? Off the quarter? First of all, off the court. He's a shooter. Okay, he's like a

black man down damn huh um. John Morant is an explosive player. I don't necessarily see great play. John Morant actually reminds me of Derek Rose, and we saw with that gout Derek. I'm talking about explosiveness. He's too explosive on his frail body. But I might have to go with John. You got you can't. You gotta go with John Job. You got to who you gonna better? John? Come on, man, are you crazy? Wow? You can get a GM to trade Job. I'm gonna ask

this question. I know, I know what he's gonna say. I know what he's gonna say, Lena ask. I'm gonna go here first, Uh, Lebron James right now, ain't Miami Lebron. You see my thirty year old that was huffing and puffing got them thirty eight points or whatever. He almost died on the court. That's what we're talking about. That'shi being facetious because he oh, that's an old, a bad old John. You should

never make that joke again. I'm gonna say it like this, thirty eight year old Lebron took a hobbled Los Angeles Lakers from playing to conference finals to get swept by the best team since the Golden State Warriors. Okay, Lebron James is better than Jaylen Brown. Definitely to ask that Golden State will take that deal, I mean the state Boston will take that deal right now, No questions asked. From if the Lakers call him right now and say give

me Jaylen Brown and I'll give you Lebron James. What do you think, Boston? What do you think Boston gonna say? BOST's gonna be like, what other thing about it? Because Lebron is pretty old. Noll Man, you're crazy a D different positions, but I'm a I'm gonna probably take. If you asked me to pick a player, I'm picking Brown over a D on my team ADS two injured. He doesn't even play enough to even be after this playoffs. I'm gonna say a D really, because when a D

plays, he's in VP caliber exactly. Every odd number one, three, five, and seven is in there. He's in there. But Jaylen Brown just showed he ain't that good either though. Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, I think Anthony Edwards are rude. Jaylen Brown, no, not at all. I'm going with Jay I'm going awards. I'm going j Edwards. I like awards too, but not more than you don't like awards. You don't let me let me, let me let me flip this. Would you take

Jaylen Brown or Chris Middleton? Don't take Jaylen because because he's younger Jaylen Brown or Chris Middleton just because he's younger and Jaylen gonna play longer, He's gonna play more games. M hm real Middleton? Yeah got range an three A lock? He did? He still do? Kyrie this last one? Kyle? All right? Cool even nutcase even with the b S. Yeah, okay, all right, just check him, Okay, NBA Finals, we've seen games one. Uh, the Denver Nuggets beat Miami Heat. Um,

I'm sorry I didn't beat them. They beat them one O four ninety three. Yep, she's right. It is beyond the Miami Heats abilities to beat Denver. Perfect segue, serie. They beat them. They beat them on a Thursday, one oh four ninety three. Where do you got? What did you guys see in the first game? Now? I want your prediction that I wanted you to like prediction. You want us to see it first? No, we've seen game one. You want us to talk about.

No, I want you to talk about what is your reason for picking the team that you're gonna pick. Sure, So I want to remind everyone that watch game one. Although that score was only eleven points, the game was never close. I want to remind folks that joker did not score in the first quarter until like the last thirty seconds. He didn't even played the fourth quarter. He played four maybe three minutes. When they cut it, they

cut it to team. They was like they put them back in. I'm gonna tell you like this, here's my prediction of the Miami Heat or barbecue Chicken. Uh, they might get swept. Um. These Denver Nuggets, they're a good basketball team. My only thing is they're good basketball. They just got three days off, so my Miami might come and win tonight, but they won't win another one after this. If they win a night, so you know, a sweep or four one, yeah, a sweet or

four one, So you're going You said, are you going sweet? I think it's gonna be a sweet? Man. You said four one, four one, it's gonna be a sweet. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't want it to be a sweet because that just means basketball season ends quicker. But if there is a sweep, our last episode is next week and we can do a great gift exchange. Um, yes, I'm all about the presence. Uh, we try to fire you for three years, get out. We'll count me out because you know I ain't got I'll just

shot a new career. I'm taking my gifts back. You know what, D drag at you? I got you? Hey man, I got you. You know I I just said I got you. No, I don't trust y'all because then y'all look if y'all show up in here and give me a hat with some rido, whoa my gifts going back? It's a gift first of all? Do I just I just said I got you, that we're doing this or not? All right? I got you? So back to your question. Man, the Miami he had a good run. Uh

I saw, I said a total friend of church. Today, right before church, we're talking about basketball, and I made the comparison of how the Denver Nuggets are the new Golden State Warriors. And I made that comparison because remember, Golden State had a stretch where nobody could stop them because of step everybod body who listened to this podcast, every time he bring up Lebron James, that's the shot. Every time he bring up Steph Curry and the Golden

State Warriors as a shot, what need to know? Okay, Well, every time Zeke says something wrong, bring up a shot you'll be drunk by the episode for all three of us, all three of us. But no, the Difford Nuggets power power. Um, they're they're proving to be an unstoppable offensive team. No, you think about it, they could be down by seven and then up by twenty. Nobody can stop Joker Jokers, the

best big man in basketball since Shaquille o'd I ain't gonna lie. The Lakers did the best job on him of any team they played, and they still go. But the only thing was the problem was they didn't have nobody to guard Murray. Nobody, And I was gonna say Murray is a bucket. Nobody on Miami can staple well, it's been one game. He ran circles around Miami. Granted, Miami just came off a brutal seven game series which shouldn't have been. That's on them because you should have swept Boston too.

But if Miami wins a game, they better do it tonight. Otherwise the Denver Nuggets are gonna win. The Tile won their home for I think y'all underestimate Miami. I think I think an underestimate Minami. Miami heat better than the Los Angeles Lakers. Yes, I just don't think they I just don't think they have enough. I just don't have it. I don't think they have enough in them after all they've been through. I don't think they have it in them to knock off a team as good as Denver agreed. I

mean, I feel the same way. I just don't think. I don't think it's gonna be a clear domination. And only I'm saying for the only reason I say that is because the Lakers are very They were number one the league defensively from ads from the trade that line up till they got there to the final, to the Western Conference Finals. If they couldn't stop them, I don't see Miami doing it. Yeah, but I think about that. Is this because they were younger and more athletic than than Miami, who was

the Lakers. They was inexperienced Lakers, and Miami's got experience. Besides Jimmy, shut up, man, I'll slap your head out that seat. That's that's he went from McDonald's to First of all. First of all, First of all, what I'm saying is this, are these fresh off the boat? Yes, they fresh off the boat, all of them the boat. And another saying of fresh off the boat. What that is a slavery reference. Another that's not a slavery reference, that is an immigrant reference. And

just like this, they're both terrible. If you fresh off the boat, you fresh off the boat, you terrible? Way did really get you? The fused the pitions of this podcast sad. And also you gotta remember every time they beat the Lakers it was only within five points with the Why he bringing up the Lakers, I'm saying, because they're a DEFENSI a better defensively sound team. To slow them down, Miami has no bam. Kicker was given a d buckets until they put who on them? Who he was getting

too? No, he was not. He was getting hit. I would say that. That's what I say about that he slowed he slowed them down. But to think about it, when you when you slow him down, he's such a great passer. He's not slowing the offense down. Yeah. And he and he could hit the three. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Joker doesn't necessarily have to be in the play. Joker hits from

some wild shots. He come on them them three is he was falling away the wild shots exactly, And that's when I that's where it goes back to where a lot of commentators say, to win a championship, a lot of things got to go your way. Yea, And right now everything gets going Denvers way and you and if you want to, you can call it what you want, but everything is in their favor. They're healthy, they got size, they got shooters, they got pastors, they got rebounded hold ups,

have great role players. This one thinking about Miami, even though I know, have you seen Eric Gordon beat is good? Oh no, he would just open and he had a small curse. He had a video the playoffs period. Well he hasn't been a tribute the playoffs. Yeah, well here's the d junior. Here, here's what I'm saying. Here's that come from. Oh, here's what I'm juniors. They did and he'd just been injured a lot. There are a number one seed for a reason. Yeah,

they're number one CE for reasons. So when you have a number one seed, the whole point if you're having a number one seed is to have a easy path to the NBA Finals, A better path, A better path I say easy, I say easier easy. Yes it was, yes, it was, it should have been. We were getting owned by all the good teams. But my thing about that is this, you're a number one seed for a reason, to make the easier to the NBA. So Miami, like the Bucks, they should have beat Miami. They would have beaten

New York and their biggest chance should have been Boston. Boston people, they're supposed to do. My thing about dinner, and I don't take away anything y'all said about them. I just feel like we're undervaluing Miami heat now. It's like to say these guys are fresh off the boat. They are. Also, they had a bad shooting night. I don't think that's gonna continue. And on top of that, they got Hero coming back, possibly possibly tonight, possibly tonight three, probably Game three. So my thing is,

I don't I don't think Hero's not enough. He's not enough. Who is he gonna be able to guard Murray? Murray is a bucket right now. Here's a bucket he's And if Murray's being a bucket right now, there's nothing. If Murray's being a bucket right now, there's nothing you can do with them. If Murray's on, there's nothing you can do with Denver because that allows Joker to be Joker. He's tapping into his Steph Curry. He can

hit them anywhere, and he has great handles. Murray has been jogging whoever they put on him, unless you put Jimmy on him the whole game. Miami doesn't have a chance. It's true. And Miami small Mammy doesn't have a chance. Um I say four two, y'all say you say four zero, you say four one, maybe four one. I'm thinking about a sweet though. Yeah, I just don't think they have enough. I think Jimmy, I think Jimmy is due for a forty point Jimmy dono. Though Jimmy

can get forty, Jimmy can get forty. But let's not forget how easy it is for Joker to get fifty. Joker numbers are crazy. Even in Game one, ro didn't score in the first quarter. Is a triple double, a high triple double. The Miami heat. It was a great run. Denver is about to fire up some fat blunts because you know it's legal there. The night they win that title, you ain't gonna be able to

smell none. But but we but the other thing too. I think we have to remember Denver, the altitude plays a factor in how you play the air quality and all that, but uh, Miami ship, they better win tonight so Denver don't get crowned on their home port. That's embarrassing. I can see them, I can see them not winning to night. They still winning too in Miami. Yeah, but if if Denver doesn't win tonight, they can win Game five on their home quarter. I know what I'm saying.

Like, if they don't win, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you some stats to show you how hard it is gonna be for Miami to beat them. The Lakers lose them by eight, Right, Austin Reeves has twenty three, Lebron has twenty six, and Anthony Davis has forty. Yes, how do you think anybody on Miami can put up them numbers and still beat them? Right, That's what my point is.

You read it again. You think I'm trying to bring up because Austen Reeves had twenty three, Yeah, Lebron had twenty six, A d had forty four. D and it's still lost. M hm. Not to mention Hatcha Murray has seventeen. To go with that, there's no one on Miami that can give you that those numbers massage Butler, Butler, Uh, Gabriel, Tyres. This has been another good episode in Honey, Hey, Hey, where the street was? Gabriel should have got that MVP for the Eastern Conference

Finals. Not Jimmy. No, it should have been Martin. No, it should have been he was the man in that game, but not the whole series. No, with hero Hero's coming back, that means Martin's coming off the bench. No, who's better? No, it doesn't mean what you mean, It doesn't. Tyler will come off the bench to start. They got to test that hand bro to start. Listen, he'll come off

the bench. They got test that. You know what if they come if he plays the night they had the first game, yeah, none three points? Yeah, win one. You played thirty minutes and score three points. They had a bad shooting night. Everybody had a bad shooting night. Well, here's the thing that general, Yes, I know, here's the thing. They had a bad shooting night and Denver only scored one hundred and four points. They didn't even score a lot. Denver use these scores in one

twenty one thirty. Yes, so Tom will tell me, I mean twos to the game with. My thing is this, I was gonna watch the whole game. I can watch game two because I have regular TV, so I'm excited about to watch. They went from twenty to ten. They brought Joker in, they kind of stretched it out and stuff like that. Miami gonna keep coming and that's my that that be my thing. Like Miami watched it. And that's what Denver does too. They don't stop. They don't

they stop a little bit. No, they don't know. Yeah they did, unless they they did when they took Joker out. That game up about what you talk about the Lakers, but Game one, every time the Lakers off day was coming back. Yeah, dinner was like all right, let's dinner was like all right, we gotta turned it up another. And miamis no no no, Miami is not no no la. I don't care what you say, how you say, how you put it. The numbers. I just read it off to you. There's no three players on Miami that

can put those numbers up and beat them. Here's the thing. They've been doing it though, who Miami and they've just been jimmy. But look what they're doing it against. Though Boston discombibble at it Boston, the Nick because overrated Nicks and the Bucks with not with the oldest bitch in the NBA. Martin used to give us buckets in the season. But you know, some somebody always have a career game on us. We know that it was consecutive

though. Player always have a good game on us. Though that's true always so um before we get out of here, els like they have Bucks talk um Terry style. Like we said earlier, Terry Stotts is the finalizing that did to join Adrian Griffin staff of the one the Milwaukee Bucks. Does this guy you make you feel better or worse or same? About the Bucks coaching decision? It screams rebuild. Still, yes, I think I think Adrian has forty two games, and at the forty two games, if we don't

like the way we're looking, they're gonna put in Terry Stotts. Yeah, yeah, which I still don't like. I didn't like Terry when he coached when he was our head coach here before. Oh that's when he sucked. Though. Yeah, it doesn't make me feel better, um, worse or saying I don't know, I'm not happy about this coach. I'm let me not say I'm not happy. I'm not enthused about it. I'm not excited about it. I'm not excited about it. I'm not even excited about the

Bucks season. Like I said, the Bucks have a lot to prove. We had two years where we just blew it and adding these coaches, these old coaches that, yeah, I'll give Terry Stotts this. He is a seasoned, veteran coach, which could be helpful. Um. Plus, you know Adrian played under Nick Nurse for the championship run, so what could be helpful. But I'm not you know, I'm not losing those sleep. See, we just got Jerry Stotts. What I'm saying we would have got Tom

Thibodeau or you know, uh Luke Luke Walton. Luke Walton wasn't a bad coach. He was a bad coach because he just had on the stake. But it doesn't make me happy. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm in different. I don't really care. Um. I think this is let's try something different and see what happens. So so you in different words, better how you feel? Honest? Wanted something different and the Bucks went different?

So how are you feeling about this? Is better worse than different. You don't care, I mean I care, but I'm I'm just like, let's see what happens. I mean, we can't. We can't do no worse than what we did this year. I'm in, I'm in different ways. We can't do a lot worse because even though we didn't win, we were a number one seed. But that's worse to have the number one seed and loser didn't be okay and still make it in and do better. That's very

true. I just hate the fact that, like with the whole Cherry style thing, I'm still I'm with Dre. I don't care to care. I don't like the coaching situation. Um, I do feel like the Bucks are headed down a very very ugly path. I think people see it if we if they can see it, we start to see it because we ain't blind.

And all of a suddenly we got a situation where, um, we either we're right back where we started and Janni's leaves, or we pull out one more championship and a lot of things got to go our way, and unfortunately, I believe our championship window has closed. I think we need a dog. But I will say this too, besides Jannis, is there two other players even one one other player? No, I say too, two other players that own this buck current Bucks roster that are untouchable. No to

you, No, you say everybody can get it? Everybody besides Jannis, everybody. Everybody's up for grabs. Oh oh, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying. I'm saying, who's untouchable as far as like in our opinion or like your opinion, who is untouchable on his current roster. Lopez doesn't count. He's a free agent, free agent, just Jannis. Everybody else is up for grabs. Speak speak hold on who else, speaking of Lopez is up the market for Lopez right now? It's serious. It's high

Phoenix, La, Dallas, Brooklyn. They're all looking to offer brook some serious money so he go get brook might be out of here, I don't know. Probably on Brooklyn, probably get a three year deal and ride off to the sunset. Brooks about to get some bankers. I think brook like like like Holiday, he liked it here. He likes it here, but he also wants to win another title and get paid. So to answer your question for me, besides Yannis, everybody can get it. Wow, everybody

can get it. Everybody can get it. I agree, do what you need to do to win. Everybody but Drew and and and Drew. But no, let's be honest, and I like Drew. I'm not going out of all three of y'all, probably the most vocal. But you're telling me right now that if the Portland Trail Blazer's call and say Damian Lillard for Drew Holiday two future first round picks, you're not doing it. Have to think about it. I have to think long and hard about it. Now.

Here's the thing. The Bucks are known to be a defensive efficient team, and Dame don't play defense. He does not, So if you're gonna get over here and you got to play some defense either, I like Holiday, but but he puts us to the whole new caliber when it comes to offense, though he does when you play, but think about a pick, but think about it a pick and roll with Yannis and he don't have to work as hard. What does that mean? You can pass the ball? That's

the ball? I know. I won't gives thing, not be and not be worried about who he passes the ball? Too? Thin about that is as much as everybody want Dame. He's no spring chicken. He's old and old a lot of money, and he's old a lot of money. Besides the fact he always hurt. And I can say always hurt, he gets hurt, and when he's hurt, he's down. He is always down. He is always hurt. To me. I gotta remember when he's over in Portland, he has to play forty five minutes. Yeah, if he comes

to walk he Drew doesn't have to play forty five minutes duey No. So imagine Dame having to play less minutes and being on a more efficient team. It's your longevity is going to last longer. I can see that. I just it's see y'all only see the negative in it. You gotta see positive too. I just that negative kind of overwhelms that negative positive about it. All I said was Dame is injury prone. That's not get his facts.

So so you're saying, so you said, everybody can get it. What you say everybody but everybody, but be honest, hands down, you got you have to go back. But you gotta have options. You gotta have options. Right now, we don't know what Chris Middleton. After that first one, I was asking you. This is what I'm saying. I'm asking you because I know what you're saying. As far as the quote unquote money goes, Yes, Drew, I mean not Drew, but Middleton. Can

he can go? My thing I asked that question because he won't probably, But my thing is did because because if what you say, everybody's on the table. You're talking about Bobby. You're talking about the rumor has it Bobby wants to leave anyway? I heard he wants to leave anyway. I just heard he might on the now he on the block. But he's a possibility to say. He unfollowed the Bucks on on social and uh, the Lakers are a dark horse team to get Bobby Porters and they're not gonna bring back

a couple of their young guys too. So say that, but to me, Bobby's untouchable. Uh, Drew is untouchable, Bobby, Drew, what do you The Bucks need to do whatever they need to do. I would I would like us. I would like us to bring back Crowder and bring back Lopez. But but who I like to bring them back just to see it for a full season. And uh, but to me, Drew and uh Bobby, they're untouchable. If we could keep Drew and Bobby, I would be happy. But in order to build an other championship roster, it's

gonna cost you. I would say this. I don't like the fact that, like you said, we had one of the oldest rosters in the in the league. Me. So my thing, if you my thing about that is this, if you go young, that means to me, that's that screens rebuild. If you go, you gotta go. It's it's a sweet spot. It's a sweet spot. I want to experience, and I want I want veteran that's experienced. I don't want to know just a veteran.

There's a lot of veterans out here who just haven't had the opportunity. But to me, I feel like if you have somebody who um can dictate how this team operates, we haven't still have a chance here. And I think we just need a small quirks. I don't think we need to just tear the whole roster down and then we'll see what happened. No, but you ask who's on you said, who's untouchable? When you're the Bucks are in a state of emergency. The Bucks are one in four in the last five

years, and they should have had at least three titles. Okay, at least three two, at least three bubbo and last year and possibly this year, so let yeah, three bubbo bubbo yes, and then the year no, okay, five, little thing got hurt. This year we were the favorites to win in this year. Okay, this year. Let's say this year the year we were Okay, So the Bucks have to approach the off season with urgency because it just picking up an assistant head coach is not gonna

do it. This roster that we have, and I said it on this show the univer this was not a championship roster. I said it. Awesome, they're old. If you run it back with the same roster, you're gonna have the same results, coaching or not. H Well, spend another episode of ninety four fee podcast. You can catch us on all social media

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