Not Tonight, Kel

I'm so sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um. This past week we lost our dear Jessica Klein, who was one of our original producers and writers and just um one of the backbones of the show back in the nineties, and she lost her battle to cancer. And yeah, it's it's it's hard, especially you know, it's this is a family, this nine O two on group of people, fans, actors, you know, everybody, the crew, everybody that was involved over

so many years. You don't ever forget them. And then when something bad happens, you know, we all sort of unite and um and come together and grieve. I saw on your Instagram Instagram. So did she right, I choose me? Yes, Yes, that was That was one of many of her um more memorable famous moments, like important moments from the show. Yeah,

I love seeing that scene on your Instagram. I mean I've obviously seen it, but it's such a beautiful, iconic mo moment in not just nine O two one oh world, but like you know, for us girls, it's like, Wow, what a moment. I know, I can't wait until we get to that episode to really, um, you know, talk about that because I haven't. I've seen that scene that I posted, and I've seen it before recently too. I mean, it was such an important scene to me and the

trajectory of Kelly and yeah, the history of the show. Yeah, I mean, and I think if I'm not mistaken, she wrote, uh, Donna Martin graduates no, oh my god, which I think I saw on Tory's post. She wrote, just some of your most iconic, sort of impactful, um soft feminine voice that you know, the the girl characters really needed on the show. And um, she she was just a beautiful, beautiful human being. And wait, will you say her name again?

I'm so sorry we tell everyone who's a good cline. Yeah. Wow, she even wrote I think the episode we're talking about today, Yes, she did, she did, which was weird to watch it and see her name, and that's it's gonna be weird. I mean, it's gonna take a while to sink in. But we just wish her daughter, Shira, and her brother, everybody, her whole family, all her grandchildren, everybody. We send you

all of our love from Yeah. Well, I mean, what a beautiful legacy to have written these amazing episodes that really people will watch, you know, on and on and over and over again. Yeah, it'll live on. She will live on forever and ever. Which is it doesn't ease your pain, but it is, you know, at least it's it's something special for those people. I mean, I think about that, like you have that you know, you people will watch your work. It's kind of it's kind of interesting,

you know. I think that just that line I choose me became a sort of an anthem for independent women, you know, and they've used it. Jessica would have said they stole it. They stole her line on other shows and in other places. But um, that just feels very great anatomy to me. Yeah, I don't remember what other show I remember her mentioning it, but what other shows have used it? But not not when our show used it,

and not for a young girl, you know. And and it's sort of like become a movement for that sort of you know, wear my choice, I wear my sweatshirt you gave me all the time that says I choose me. I love that it sort of was ahead of its time that moment. Well, no, I mean because there was

the whole women's live movement already. Yeah, but that felt that tells me more like career to me, like women could be president and women had their careers like to really, especially on nine O two and oh, which was so about these relationships for your character to say to both of those like perfect humans because I love them both. I mean I love them both. And I watched that scene again, like I can't imagine just looking back at that scene and thinking she got to pick between Brandon

and Dylan. Wow, I know, I started thinking about it because Brandon, although I like up to this point, like he's such a babe and I love him, he hasn't really had his moment yet to be Dylan, you know what I mean, Like he hasn't had that and it's coming. But it's like for Kelly to say, yeah, I don't take either of these amazing proposals. Essentially, she just was

there in her in her life right then. I can't wait to watch that episode because I really don't know like what lead what leads her to that declaration, but I'm excited to see that build and unfold. It's a bit of a different Kelly in this episode than that Kelly it is. Yes, let's let's talk about this week's episode. As we mentioned, it's written by Jessica Klein and Steve Wasserman, her late husband and partner writing. Okay, Season three, episode

twenty three, Duke's Bad Boy, aired March third. Do you want to read the synopsis? Amy? Oh yeah, wait, I don't even have it. I've never read it. Do read it synopsis? And this actually brings me to a question, which So this aired in March March March, y'all looked like you have fresh haircuts, So I noticed that right out. Okay, I'll read this and then we can talk about it. Brandon's gambling addiction hits a new load, and Duke is demanding he paid up David apologizes Steve after losing his

recording contract thanks to scummy producers. Kelly starts taking diet pills. Andrea I almost mailed it to. Andrea tries to ease Dylan's depression over his father's murder by asking him if she can do an editorial on him, which I actually loved that whole storyline, even though it was a tad cringe e. I was sort of with Brandon that I thought it was inappropriate. But there's something about her that Dylan like he picked up that call and like, yeah,

come over, Like I know, I'm jumping way ahead. That was a very interesting storyline. Well it was so Andrea. So it's so gab Actually it's um sort of have that a bill to break those barriers for people and and befriend people and people feel comfortable around her. And she has that maternal instinct. I was just about to say that, right, she's very motherly. And they both played it so well. It felt very real and like, yeah, she I kept thinking, you know, she she's going to

get the story, which is her job. And like Gil, although I hate calm, Gil, Mr Myers was right, like that's her job, but she handled it well and then I loved that he wanted to write his own story and she said, yeah, I'll help you. Yeah. I just liked that. First when she was talking about it with him on the couch, I was like, Okay, how's she gonna get and broached this subject because she's there for alterious motives and it felt weird and I felt like

it wasn't gonna end well, but uh it was. She had a way of sort of disarming it, and and he but he was still like I kind of felt the same way. At the end of that conversation, I was like, I didn't I don't want it felt like a real baiting that switch same. It felt really like exactly what Brandon sort of said it would be. But she handled it well in that You're like, she said, you can say no, And it wasn't like I'm only your friend because of this, I'm your your friend and this.

It was a little cringey, but yet I was like, right, I wonder she Andrea knew that it would help him aid him in his grief process to be, you know, have that lethargic sort of release and to give a voice to all that stuff that he's dealing with inside or or if it became that, because then he decided he wanted to write it. Yeah, I do think she went into it. I don't think she has like a mean bone. She's smart and wanted to get the story,

like if we're really thinking about her. But I do think she was like, I'm gonna go and talk to him about this, and she kept saying I'm a good listener. Yes she is. And he said, I've said no, I've said no to whatever. Well people, people, magazine, La Times, whatever it was. They all wanted to talk to him

about his dad. You know. It's it's interesting because like, I don't know if you've ever had to do that, but I have to do that all the time, ask people, Hey, do you want to come on and talk about this? And it's like, oh god, I hate it, but I just do it. Do people often like Okay, So, who's somebody You've had to come on and ask you're talking about like on another podcast or on another yeah, or like on Ryan C. Krush Show. Because it's we do

topical and news. I'm not in hardheard news, which is really brutal, Like those people that have to go and someone's in the like the most tragic situation of their life and then they have to talk to them. But we definitely have to talk to people about sticky thing like breakups and and you just kind of go through it and say like, look, this is how we're going to ask it. You answer it however you feel most comfortable. I never recommend to people like I don't want to

answer that. Move on. It's like there's such a better way to do it, even if you don't want to talk about it. So we kind of go through a lot of that. Yeah, I mean work around on this show. It would It hasn't come up yet, but I'm sure it could if you know, if there was a person that came on, or maybe somebody that didn't have the best experience on nine oh, but wants to figure out, like, hey, I want to talk to Jenny and Tory, but how do I talk about that? I want that. Let's get yeah,

and then you'll tell me how Alba. I hope we can get Jessica Alba, because it's like sometimes it's best to just like say it, yeah, say I believe in that. Yeah, Well we didn't. The title of this show is Duke's Bad Boy. Sorry, I'm kind of happy it's come doing end. I hope it is. It's gotta be it. I think this is like the clax of it, which was there

was no climax. Really, the thing that I loved about it was Nat really saving the day, being sort of that father figure to Brandon, but like the friend or the uncle that that Okay, look you got yourself into hot water, I'm gonna save you. But that was really firm with him. I really thought for Nat, it was a real moment for his character. Yeah, and I like seeing that because he was he was nurturing, but he was still strong. It was matt I like that about him,

and Brandon was like, oh, I have piste off Nat. Yeah, Like it was a little dumb, like the high school bookie and like all that he's in high school. I never did. I guess I wasn't into gambling, but did you ever? I mean across any but I don't think I've ever bet on a sporting event like I'll play blackjack or like pull the slot machines in Vegas. I don't. I don't know, on a sporting event. Well, it was kind of dumb. I actually liked the moment in the

bedroom with Jim and Brandon really rude to him. It felt very teenagery to me. But I felt like Jim knew. Jim's like, I know what's going on. He didn't really really know how like in debt he was if you figure, that's probably like fifteen thousand dollars, now, oh my god, because if they if he was fifteen hundred in at least that's ten thousand. So it was kind of a lot. How much how much did you think he was going to sell those baseball cards for them? Wait, that's a thing.

That's a thing guys in their baseball cards, totally still a thing of Everything about that was so good because it was so like he's got these cards like he's a little kid, but then he's gonna sell it. And then I love that they're like jose Canseco rookie card because like I know, jose Canseco is like it wasn't a baseball player I hadn't heard of. I mean, it was like twenty bucks. I'm like, dude, I hope you

have like a thousand cars. He didn't have a whole box full my my first half Mountain my second husband had a box full of baseball cards that is now lost somewhere and he's real piste about it. But my husband has a box of baseball cards in the closet to they just can't park play them. I wonder, did you ever open baseball cards? And there was a stick of gum? The hardest gum, I mean, like a brick. I've never like, I've never even touched a baseball card.

Do you have brothers? No? Are you an only child? No, you have a sister. I have sisters. I have sisters and brothers half half sisters, half brothers, but they're all older than me. I had brothers who like collected baseball cards. So that's how I knew about the gum. Fun fact. I just learned, though, stuff make is worth money. Did you know if you have an unopened original Back to the Future VHS tape, it's worth like a ton of dough? Oh my goodness you we have to have my friend Mike.

I want to talk about this a dork, but um, he just gave me an immense edge. He has all that Back to the Future stuff. Oh, first of all, I love it. I wonder what would be the most profitable nine O two one oh item. I'm going to assume Dylan's car, right that or or your BMW if somebody still had that those cars, yeah, what else would be saying? I mean yeah, but who Yeah, all the cars I think would be charitable auction. And they auctioned off the shell of the car. It wasn't there wasn't.

It didn't work the car, but it was just the outside of the car. And somebody bought a dough Obviously all the cars were working cars right then. For a minute, I was like, are these freight cars? Because because weirdly in this car episode we see David Silver drive up. I really have we seen this dude drive? We've never seen him drive. But he wanted to prove something. He wanted to prove. Look, I drive to I'm not too young to drive a car. And his blue whatever that

was sidebar right, it wasn't. It's not as fancy as y'all's BMW's sidebar. Henry Winkler sold his Bonzie jacket for seventy five thou dollars. I just saw that on Jimmy Kimmel not that long ago. Wow, anything more than one? There were five, he said five and ones in the Smithsonian. I think he still has one. He sold one. One had to get the lining cut out. Now we're doing a happy Days podcast, but one had to get the

lining cut out for when he jumped the shark. Is there an iconic There were iconic fashion moments, but nothing like the Fonzie jacket. No, no, not that was like every episode you thought, Yeah, I can't think of what else would go for other than the cars. There's a jukebox in the peach pit. Yeah, those things that were on well, the big one, yeah, and on the counter ones. I remember. I think I think Iron had one of those. I think he touched g Donna Martin graduates poster board.

Was there was there a poster board? Did they just chanted it? Maybe they just chanted it. I don't know, I don't know. I'm sure I digress, but yeah, a lot of people have these collectibles. So I think that I have a lunch box thanks to you, because you guys got I took it from I don't know what that was, and we did alive. I want to take a white beyond that, because I'm not totally sure. I'm not gonna lie. So David Silver comes in hot because he's late, and Donna's in the d J booth with

the sunflower hat, which was iconic. I didn't love it. I did love yes, I love the leopard vest, but I wasn't crazy about the black under it. I know, I'm like going into fashion. But and then she sort of announces he's got this record deal, and he's like, why did you do that? And I'm proud of you. How come to the studio. I'll be like, Yoko oh no, And it was like and then has this literally when he was in the recording office of the the guy that didn't like that, we already heard the song like

eighteen times. And then when there listening to it with the guy eyes and he's waiting to see how they like it. I was like I said to my daughter and said, if I hear the song one more time, I'm going to jump out the window. Like I couldn't take it. It's the word I literally wrote. This is awful, awful, awful, And Surge is such a jerk. But David should have stood up and said this song sucks. He didn't have anybody to support him. He didn't have you know, he

didn't know he could say anything. Probably, so you have made that what he made like precious to you. A hip hop song. If it like it's I thought it was precious to me. That's sort of bragging it. It's precious too. It was precious to somebody, not I wrote it down. What do you think of that whole storyline of him, David and his music career. I mean, I like it. If it is it going to go somewhere? Is he does he become a musical music was like

a thing. I mean, I think it doesn't disappear. It's weird because our show was so known for having such great musical acts throughout the whole thing, whether it was songs on the show or whether they're later. It was after dark where we would have actual artists come in and perform. Maroon five, I mean, I don't they weren't Maroon five then, but it was Adam Levine liked, but I did. Did David go go to the peach pit after dark? I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

probably he probably performs there. So wait, did you notice well, first, back the gum is back. I want to talk to you about. Yeah, the gum, the gums back right straight out of Do you think is with that? Okay, I'm gonna I don't know. He's either an act of defiance. Let's narrow down what it could be. Yeah, I'm gonna chew my gum because I could do what I want to Brandon or um he has like an oral fixation with the smoking. He had to have something. That's what

I was thinking. It's sort of it. Or it was like a nico gum. What's that called? He doesn't have to smoke nicorette. Yeah, but the other one is um um he has bad bro I don't know I was going And anyone who listens to I have one other podcast, sorry, the Gilmore Girls podcast. I always talked about this. I'm sorry. I don't mean to mention another show. But if people listen to both, which they do, Uh, Brad Pitt's eating, like you know how Brad Panton Oceans eleven is always

eating and it's part of sort of his vibe. Maybe it's that because it's in so many episodes that maybe he pops that gum and it really makes him feel like Brandon. I'm cool, I'm at school, I'm in my locker, I'm Brandon. I don't know. I chew my gum and I'm gonna chew with my mouth. And then Steve came up and was cute. But then Brandon's like, you in my name to a bookie. I don't know what my First of all, I'm doing like a I don't know my accent is. And then she was like, no, dude,

I didn't. And then I just noted why does everyone look slightly older and that they got fresh haircuts? Every single person looked like they got a fresh haircut. Your hair was like a blunt cut in the back, like literally, like you finished the haircut six minutes before you shot the scene, Brandon haircut. Notice the guy's hair haircuts and when you see the backs of their heads, uh, you could yeah, freshly shorn, as they say. Because I was like, okay,

it's March. Like if it would have been, you know, a season premiere, I would have been like, oh, obviously everyone gets their haircut before they start school. But like, I don't know, maybe there was a little because if it was airing in March, you shot it. When when would you have shot March. I mean it could have been December before break. Couldn't have been right after the break, could have been January. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe it

was fresh off the holiday break. Everyone got there cuts, and they looked a little they looked a little up. I would say everyone looked kind of fresh. Yeah I'm not. I mean, I agree with you on the haircuts. Brenda's hair was her bangs were really long, though, I noticed in yeah, but I love them that that was her choice to have them really really long. They I'd love to have bangs like that. I just don't think I could type because it's like, you know, An, I'd be like,

there's sort of a Kelly Dylan awkward scene. Although I didn't think saying just pretend you're in Hawaii was a bad thing to say. I was sort of like, it's a nice sentiment. It's it wasn't offensive. I just I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don't see anything between Kelly and Dylan. Whatever I see with between them at this point is purely physical sexual, and it's very angsty right now. Because then Brendan invites you guys to dinner. Obviously you're you did good acting because

your face was like, yeah, I'd love to go. I hate you right now, like to Dylan, you know, like I don't want to go. And then at dinner you're like eating your pie, but kind of annoying. Kelly is annoying me with the food already, like eat the freaking pot. It's the diet Hills thing is a rough storyline, it is, and I'm sure it's triggering for so many people who have struggled with eating disorders. So no disrespect, but it's she's she sticks skinny, and she's like, I'm fat, and

you're like, I mean, it's it's all in here. And I felt like she's just handling this, this whole situation with Dylan and and the triangle of Kelly Brenda Dylan and the death of Dylan's dad. I feel like she's just here doing also selfishly like it's not about you, Kelly, and it's not. But she's a teenager, and I actually think the eating disorder is because like it's coming all that stuff is coming out because of it. Is it?

Because it's all connected, right, She's obviously having an you know, look, if we're gonna really like therapyes, yes, a skinny person could have an eating disorder, And she probably is being genuine that like she feels this way, but really it's something else. She's feeling insecure. Look, she's with a guy, and he's preoccupied. Yeah, and she stole him from her best friend ish, you know, so she's just emotionally dealing with a lot. So I do think the eating disorder

storyline tracks just but it's rough. It. Yeah, it makes me not like her, and not the the eating disorder part, just the way she's just feels insecure all the time and and out of the moment because she's worried about whatever is going on in her head, which is very teenage. But can I go out on a limb now? I may people may say, oh, you're like trying to make something out of something. She's a little overt with Dylan using like let's hook up and being hurt by it,

which I get, but she's that's there. It's repeatedly being used, like when he's typing, oh, isn't there something you'd rather do? And then in the car it's like which feels teenagery, but also like, oh no, that's not and I choose me girl, He's not there yet. No. Yeah, it's rough for me to watch it. I wonder what your daughter's

take away from it. I really would be so interested in fresh eyes seeing it that you know that aren't so invested in, Like, I am so invested in all these characters and I love them, and I'm I blur who they are sometimes in real life because it's like, I don't even know if I think Steve is cute. I just think Iron's cute, do you know what I mean? It's like I get all dumbie if fresh I saw it.

What would fresh Eyes think of Kelly in this particular episode, like being very overt with her like sexual advances and he's like rejecting her, and then the diet pills thing and the sort of the I don't know. Well, my daughter who's the nineteen was watching it with me last night for a few minutes, and she saw what Kelly was doing and she was kind of like, oh, like she was she I felt as if she had no

patience for that kind of yeah, you know. Yeah, I'm trying to think of like the only example I can think of, as I just watched the trailer to the New Handmaid's Tale, and I'm like, Kelly isn't in June. Oh yeah, the trailer just came out. I think it's like the teaser trailer, so it's not like the full trailer, but June is just a badass and do you watch it? But it's just yeah, I mean those are completely different.

That's just a totally different situation. But yeah, I don't know, like I'm trying to sort of think, like what would Carrie Bradshaw do if she were Kelly. I don't know why that's going into my brain, but it's like it's hard because sheep. We have to remember she's sixteen seventeen years old, like and still and she's just learning everything, and who would want to go to dinner at the perfect Walshes with your boyfriend's ex girlfriend and who sort

of was your best friend is your best friend? It's all blurry, yes, really awkward and messy. Yeah, I was uncomfortable whenever it was Kelly Dylan or Brenda Kelly Dylan time. So I don't like that feeling. I hope that we get back on track with something, but now it's going to be about the die pills, so it's not gonna be fun love and good times. And Dylan's still grieving is the loss of his dad. So I'm gonna take me home just to seek me home, just take me

in the cards. Like that's very teenage too, like older us would be like wait, let's sorry, let's talk about it, like what do you what? What do you need from me? Like how can I help? You know? And I like that Dylan's writing the the article, but she's sort of but hurt by it. It's like the best way to say it. She just feels like on the outside and she doesn't know how to get in. And she thinks she feels like Brenda's in and family in there because they have that history with him and his dad and

and they do seem to say the right thing. Hm. You know, Brenda's very cool. She's coming across very cool right now because she's definitely not being selfish, right, do you want to come for dinner? My mom wants to see you. She doesn't need anything from him or Kelly says to need his attention or adoration or something. And I just I want her to stop it. That's all I have to do. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Huh.

There's a lot of not tonight, kel And it's just like I felt like they were like fifty years old, not tonight. I've got a headache, Honnie, like that you know where you're like, oh god, they're not good. Moment you know. It's funny how Michael cutlits because I love him and Walking Dead. I literally I wonder if people see him on the show and then make the connection to Walking Dead. And he's such a and he's so like the later the gambling guy, and he's sort of

always a jerk. It's weird how they had so cute. He can't you can't be mad at him. He's like, yeah, but and he doesn't really like you guys. It's weird. He's like Brandon, like he's too cool. What did you think when Brandon really took that guy by the neck and then Steve drove up like magically, but he got hot, like intense. It was so Crazy's like, what the hell are you doing? How did he know to drive in right then? And how did he know to come to the back door of the pace? That's what I was

gonna say. Why is he parking in the back? I don't know? In his vet and his vet it was all very convenient. But was a little frightened of Brandon and a little like, whoa slow your role? But he's just a high school kid. It felt like, um, an older guy beating up on a younger guy in that moment. It was like, I wonder how old that actor was that played Was it Curtis? And it was so hypocritical.

It's like you're literally terrified that someone's going to do this to you, and now you're doing it to this guy. And he sure took Steve's three hundred dollars fast. I'll take it. I'll take it. Remember Steve offered him money like a couple of episodes ago, and he was like no, no, no, And now I was just like he's worried he's gonna get his Uh, it's gonna end up in the river what they don't give him? Yeah, and he's like, don't

give him my home address. I knew now I remembered not saved the day, Like I definitely knew that's what happened. But it was still pretty cool, you know. But the whole gambling thing is like, God, let's just be done with this. Yeah, I oh what I did to see what's next? So you know when the young guy at high school, the bookie at high school, he's like pulls out that gadget and he's like, I keep it little right here, like like what or was it like a sidekick? Well, no,

this is before sidekicks. It was it a calculator. I don't know because okay, so it's nine three. So at the time, people had word processors. So I was in college and people had word processors. I weirdly had a computer that was like a giant screen and then you hooked up this whole thing and then it had a keyboard and you could print. But most kids had word processors, and that's what I thought Dylan was writing his paper on. No,

that was a typewriter. I think it was electric though, like an electric and some of them had tiny little screens where you could see like a couple of sentences at a time and edit those to make sure you didn't have typos before it like printed. Yeah, but that was like a handheld situation before there was that that guy had out there yet. No, I don't know what

that was because I had a cell phone. His cellphone hooked in the car, like you guys had my dad brick ones that you could right like very Zach Morrison saved by the bell with an antenna that stuck up, and literally they were so expensive. My dad would go crazy on us, like who were we calling from the cell phone? Because it was like a dollar a minute, and you're like, so busted. But what that guy had I don't know what that was. I don't either. I don't think he knew what it was either. He was

just faking it. Okay, So there's a ce and that I'd love to talk about. Two Kelly and Brenda in the bathroom and then Andrea comes out. Remember that. I was kind of like Andrea was in there the whole time exactly, and she's sort of like, kind of even wise words. She comes in for the save totally the words of wisdom from the elder. But thank god, I mean, that wasn't at first. When it's when Kelly was started to go off on Brenda, I was like, oh, good lord,

here we go. I don't know what's gonna happen. But the thankfully she reeled it in and apologies said sorry, yeah you blazer. By the way, Yeah, I thought she looked great. I thought she looked a little tired. She looks great. She looks a little stressed, Yeah, a little bags under her eyes. Maybe you know what those diet pills are. They're spinning her out, man already. Then she that message she was just on wanted at time, message to everyone at home. Just say no, Just say no.

She says, what they're from the drug store. I'm sure they're fine. I'm sure they're perfectly. What are they just gonna give you diarrhea? Like everything from the drug store is harmless. You don't trust a lot of things that you can get at the CBS that are not totally totally but yeah, and then she's just popping them. That was rough. Yeah, that's I'm worried about. I will give a shout out to the disco duck reference. Did you hear that? So because you know Rick D's. Rick Dee's

is the one who likes saying disco duck. Oh my god. He was the Seacrest before Seacrest, right and it was like disco duck. Oh god. Do you think Ryan Secause knew he was gonna be Rick D's Like yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I mean I knew Ryan then. So I knew Ryan in the We met in ninety six ish about nine, and yeah, he wanted he knew day one, he wanted to be Dick Clark. Rick D's is like Griffin all these like, yeah, he knew and he hasn't

changed a bit. Everybody asked me like, is he different now, I'm like, nope, same as the kid that just was like let's try this. You know, he's just yeah, he's he's the coolest. He's just the coolest, I know, the most down to earth you'd never because he's just exactly the same as that. I think we were like what but we're we twenty two something like that same kid. Well, I remember when I can remember because I'm looking at the image of Kelly and Brenda in the bathroom for

that scene because of that look. That was a great look. The blue blazer. Yeah, very legit high school bathroom too. I'm assuming I don't know where you shot. That was looked real. It looked very real because that's exactly what high school bathrooms look like. Yeah, I think that was real. But I remember um going into the diet pills world and knowing that the character was it was going to

be a continual thing I was going to build. I remember, like, looking back on it, I can see starting to like kind of she's looking a little different, like not quite a lit not you know, I thought Tory. I wish Tori was here because I thought Tori made a really

really excellent point. A few weeks back, talking sort of the blurred lines between Kelly and Jenny, Donna and Tori and then and and sort of asking you they give you this storyline why and you having to deal with it for Kelly, but then as Jenny going why are they giving me this storyline and having it blur like do I look all right? That seems like it would be.

I mean, obviously you did. Of course, I think for any young actor to be given something to do like that, I mean, and now disguise the limit of what what what they put people through for some things now, But um, back then, I think that it definitely soaked into my psyche and I did develop body dysmorphia and uh, you know, feeling like I my body looked differently than it than other people thought it looked, or and in trying out believe me like I want, I thought maybe I need

to start throwing up, like starting to start starve myself. I took diet pills like I feel like this was all so imprinted in my just my my growth m that it it could not seep into Jenny. You know, yeah, I mean when you first think about it, you're like, of course not, You're an actor. This is a storyline. It's totally separate from real life, but like God, it does blur. It's weird here. And you know how everyone says Austin Butler talks like Elvis, now, do you know

what I mean? Like they're sort of saying, he has this totally different accent. Well, if you talked with an accent for three years or two years or whatever. It took him to make that because he had to get the role, learn it, and then there was COVID. Of course it's gonna seep it, you know what I mean? So like that as actors, I kind of for me, I'll only speak for myself, but I feel like sometimes I can equate it to um, either like a dish

rag or a sponge that is squeezed. All the juices are squeezed out of it, and then it puffs up with whatever the new liquid is. And so like you, you suck up all that liquid of this new character or all those new traits or all the problems or all the every thing that they're going through, and then you're you're walking around with that even when you go home, and now it's still in you, it's still you're carrying it.

With you. Well, it's like they talk about like social workers or therapists because they are dealing with these issues all day long. How do you think those people just go home and forget about their clients or the family they're working with. I'd have to assume the same thing for you, Like you're dealing with this storyline. And even though it's like I feel like trama, like maybe with a therapist or something would be there's like a sense of like there's a barrier because they're not put a

shield a listening to someone else's problem. But when you're an actor and you actually step into those shoes or that body of that person and you have to emode it and like portray it and you have to feel it on such a level that it's got to be really like it's got to come from real or it's not going to work. Right. I think about that with the episode I can't remember if it was last week of the week before where where Luke Perry had such a powerful episode how right he had you. You can't

just do that like a light switch. You must take on the pain, you must take on whatever it is or drawn it. I mean, I'm not an actor, so like what the F do I know? But like, I'm not an actor because I can't do that. I used to think you had to have a lot of like life experiences, you had to have a lot of traumatic things happened to you or like, you know, a lot of stuff in your life history in order to portray it on screen. But I didn't have a lot of stuff at that point in my life at a young age.

And I feel like, you know, there's I think that's what they always say, like, oh, their method, like they they become the character and can't shake it off and they walk around like that character. And sometimes that works, and sometimes you have to do that, but you have to go off. You have sometimes you have to go home and back to your quote unquote real life for

six hours or something. But I feel like when I work, like I can instantly like put myself in someone else's situation so deeply that it I feel it, and it it you know, it comes out in whatever way can you remember at this time, like specifically maybe with Kelly's sort of arc right now, because it is a little bit more MOPy, dramatic, heavier going home at night, like did you feel happy at home at night or were was? Were you coming from? The set? Was sort of this

baggage of that what y're okay? So this was and I would have been how old? Who can do math? I can't wait? You're like if I was twenty, I was nineteen. You were probably twenty something but not much older. I was like nineteen, So what I think? It's a little now, who can you twenty two? You weren't old, You're like twenty two. Literally, I was going through some Yeah, did you have your twenty first birthday? Like with in the nine World? Can you remember that at all? Like

what did you do for your twenty first birthday? Because I think you were on nine one? Oh oh yeah, no idea, no memory? What'soe? Sorry, I'm trying to remember mine. My daughter, I took her to get her jars lest the other day, she said, and she she didn't pass her test. Oh no, they none of them do. I was like trying to remember when I did that, and I can't even remember when I got Like I can remember sixteen better than twenty one because I remember literally

driving to school. I got my license in the morning, I went home with my mom and took the car and drove to school for like the second half the day, and I drove smiling like a fool, like I couldn't stop smiling, like I drive. Now you remember twenty one either, I mean, it must have been a was I went to cal so I must have been there. But yeah, like, do you can you remember this time? Like it doesn't sound like it was all unicorns and I had already

been married if you can imagine, No, I cannot. Actually I think I got married when I was twenty one for for like one year. God the difference between I mean and I'm sure people like listening like because I was close to your age, but I was totally in college, living to sorority, watching this show every week with like twenty girlfriends were our biggest Like literally we did not have a care in the world. Someone cooked every meal for us. We literally would go downstairs to the dining room.

We didn't have to do dishes. You have to take your plate to the sink. That was it. And then I just remember constant gummy candy, like getting like that for me back sea glass boxes with my name Puffy painted and just eating gummy worms like that was my life. And then going to class. No, we were working sixteen seventeen hour days. We were uh, did you did you

want a house? I had a mortgage, I had a husband, I had car payments, more than one car payment, and and meetings with men who told me they were managing my money. You know, people that were managing my money or managing my career. Big girl meet like adult things under my eyes. My biggest thing is I was about that. It was probably nine three and we were having a sorority sneak, which means like I think older girls took pledges, and someone told me to get in the back of

a U haul. I'll never forget it. Like they opened up the back of a U haul and said everybody get in and I was like, absolutely not. I was like they're please. I was like, there is zero chance I'm getting in the back of a U haul. Other girls get in there totally they didn't care. And then like this a girl who I'm still totally best friends with, who was a senior. She's like, that's okay, Sugie, jump up here with me, and I wrote in the front. I was like, I'm cool, ran in the front. That

was like the crap that was going. That was my biggest dramatic moment like and you're dealing with like life bleep, and I'm like, I'm not getting in the maganat you. I'll eat my gummy worms up here. I wonder I'm gonna I gotta, I gotta do some memory searching or just ask Mr Schobez when did I get married? When did I get divorced? When did I get remarried? And that could tell me, and I could tell me, you know what was happening in young Jenny's life at this moment.

It's all on the internet. Jenny. That's what's so crazy. I don't google myself, Jenny. Do you ever google yourself? Why would I? Oh? I know celebrities that do what do they? They're pressed? They want to see what the press is talking about them. Jenny Garth first marriage. Let's see what it says the Beverly Hills nine one oh alum had been married twice before. Oh, that's talking about your guy. Now. I won't say everybody's names. Let's see.

Uh wait, I was the first guy's name start with A, dried, married him and and divorced in ninety six two years. Wow, I took a minute. So you were dating him right now? Oh? Yes, okay, all right, okay, I'm dating him. Wow, I don't even remember that. I remember Peter obviously. That was like that was a very high profile marriage. We can talk about that another day. Oh my god, my god, So you lived like you were like, it's you were a kid, it's a child. Wait, let me see if there's anything

else I love. I would go off on tangent something literally. Okay, but wait, okay, we've already talked fashion. We love the blazer. Uh, I don't know. There wasn't anything I really up. He had a plaid sort of red sure that I loved poor Andrea, like I just it's like a different stylist is dressing her. Yeah. My kid also asked me while we were watching this, is she one of the teachers like Andrea? Hello, Nat was a baller in this I think we're hopefully putting a pin in that storyline. Precious

to me, precious to you, terrible terrible song. Steve was sort of cool. Everything about Steve was sort of pretty cool in this episode. Just the way he strides into a scene is cool. I think he walks in thin leading with his chest or something. Yeah. I also think Ian was in my dream again. I don't. I don't know. It's like I can't really shake him. Even Mr Myers recently.

Did you see him? I always I'm like, I have a crush, like not a weird crush, but just like he's so cool, so cool, Like we are just talking about We're just talking about the I Heart Radio Music Festival in Vegas. Did you see my text about that? So I texted I'm like talking to Jenny talking about Jenny. But I texted Jenny and Tory to see if they want to come to the Heart Radio Music Festival. I'm like, I haven't texted Iron yet, but of course I will. I'll be like, do you want to come again? Oh?

I didn't. I don't think the girls last year. Look the line of school, I'll look at it. Yeah, I mean I don't want to. I'm nervous about Vegas because of COVID. It's like I don't got all the germs, but I guess we just lived with germs. Um. Yeah, I feel like we covered it all. He did good. I feel like we got it all and uh yeah, I'm I'm happy for me. This episode was that we were out of high. I was really excited in this episode was like like I kind of took a nosedive.

I didn't love this episode. So yeah, for me, it's a very classic less Less Dynasty, more classic nine O two one. Oh, but I get it. I was a little bored. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have that. But how next week will perk things back up? We'll have news. Oh you know we didn't talk about quickly was when Cindy was doing the dishes and Jim Walt walks in and she says, hi, honey, and he says hi baby. They kind of like love each other. They have to

have a perfect marriage. Look, we're both fanning ourselves. So I don't have air conditioning where I am. Just I don't like to turn my air conditioning on you guys. I'm like that lady, because you don't like to your frugal or like you don't like air conditioned air. I just feel like it's a lot of energy and it's people don't take it, like they leave the doors and windows open and it feels like not the air. Yeah, I don't like it. I run my NonStop. I'm not in l a right now, but run. I mean, do

you wake up in the night sweating? I'd have that. That's the thing. I sleep with a fan. Get a fan, it'll be your new best friend to turn at you all night. I have two fans in here, but I have to turn them off because the microphone picks them up. Now that we're big podcast stars, I have to turn my microe. Okay, next week, everybody, we will cool down and we will watch perfectly perfect for next week. What,

Oh my god, I think it might be your birthday either. Wait, not your twenty one part of me, part of me, your eighteenth birthday. I'm so dumb. I know that's coming. It's either next week or the week after Kelly has a party. I don't remember. I just know your birthday, your eighteenth birthday is coming. I'm excited. Yeah, we gotta do something special. I'll look at I'll peak ahead. Okay, let's do it. I hope you guys enjoyed this week, and we will see you next week. M hm