Nice to Meet You, Dylan McKay (S1, E2 “The Green Room”)

do you think we're doing? I think people loving fun. I'm liking it. Yeah, And how did you guys like? Watching back episode two? Oh my goodness. I I was like, wait, it's over so fast. It went by so quickly compared to it. When it was over, I kind of wanted to bench and like keep going, But I waited. You wanted more of your own show? I did, but I didn't. I waited for everybody else. I didn't want to, you know,

be ahead of the time. My husband is watching this with me for the first time because he didn't see it when it first aired, and so he's trying to just like kind of like get a grasp of everybody. So Dylan's like a bad boy, but like he doesn't live in a house like it lives in a sweet Is it holding his interests? I'm very curious. It really good. I'm very happy right now. Yeah, I'm so ready he's doing that. That sounds so cute. What I like that? Wait? Now? Why? Okay?

Is it because he's younger than he didn't watch it for around the first time, or because he's a boy or both. He's two years younger than me, so I'm robbing the cradle. Um, But yeah, and I think he was just younger. Such a cougar. That's glad. I'm glad. Oh the nails, you guys. You can't see her right now, but let me just be your eyes right now. Tory looks radiantly beautiful. She's all gussied up, well lit, beautiful lipstick on, and she's got these nails like fancy lady nails.

Are they fancy lady nails? Or they're I mean all the kids are wearing them. I mean, hello, have you watched Instagram? Like all the like millennials have these long nails. I just never had because you mean, like a poopy diaper, and uh, I don't want to like cut his balls off or anything so aggressive, but we get it. I'm not gonna lie. I put mittens on the change them. But I have these long nails. Who've been playing a character that's supposed to be a milf? So what's that? Mother?

And I'd like to free mother. I'd like to ask. Uh, it's my kid's favorite thing. They're mom, Mom, tell everyone the character you're playing. And I'm like, okay, I'm playing Shoshana, a forty year old. I just like, that's Showshanna, forty year old, blonde, jewish mouth. What okay? I know, I know how excited you are to be playing a milf deep in your heart. No, I'm excited because I get to wear makeup, wear my hair and dress and wear these fancy nails, all these things that she would never

let me do if we were together. That's not true. It's just the nails. It's the it's the nails. They're long and they're flashy, and I don't care. Don't like when I'm flashy. She doesn't like when I'm gussied up. I do like you gussied up. It's just the nails. They creep me out. We can move on. I'm gonna wear these nails back to l A and scratch. They literally just give me like he get the ships when I think I'm just scratching. No, don't touch my hand.

But do you do? You look real pretty? Thanks? So do you? Before we got on here, um, you guys were discussing was it a picture that you guys were looking at from the past or one not? Because it's started with I think I sent you this week, like three pictures of you and I from the internet from some feed that I saw. I like message them to you and said, we have a problem. We're starting to

look alike. Oh my god, you guys. Okay, So first of all, she deemed me my best friends, lit into my Instagram d M and was like have you know you were like, look, you showed two pictures like when we were younger and the one now, and you were like, do you think we're starting to look alike? And I was like, wow, that on good call. I thought it like midnight, So d M D back, you're morphing into each other. But that reminds me. That reminds me of the other picture that you sent me. So we went

to Israel for twenty four hours hours. This was like a year ago. Yeah yeah, to do a campaign for a kid's brand, clothing brand, which was a really cool commercial that we filmed. We literally flew fifteen hours, I think it was fifteen hours. Off the plane, went to the hotel, slept, got up, went to a sound stage film, got on a plane and went home your entire trip and they had us done up all fancy, and we took a picture in the elevator I think right before

you went to the ampom to come home. We thought we looked really good. We did we think we looked good? Or did we think we look No? I felt really like I look good. Like these Israeli artists just did some magic on me and they made me look good. You do yourself, I have to was it me or you that had it? Listen? Okay? So you guys, okay, no, no, no,

this is even better. So we arrived there after this fifteen hour trip and we get there and they're like, oh, Jenny guard Tory spelling, need to know, everyone's so nice, and they just kept bringing a sushi and we're like, well, we want to tell you like your food and They're like, oh, sushi, because in Hollywood you guys eat sushi. And we're like, oh, that's one sushi and Israel. But they were so nice.

And then I sit down in the hair chair first and they were like, okay, so uh so we're just gonna go underneath and we're gonna make these tight braids to pull your face back under your hair. And I sat there and I'm not gonna lie. My my eye teared up just one and I was like, oh, man, I look bad like I'm one been really cold if they got to do that. And then they're like, no, no, no, no no, we do this with everyone, even like young models. And they brought and they did to Gen two. So

I feel a lot better. And it hurts like mother, they medicate you and do this to your hair all at the same time. So we but we were like, whoa, this looks good. Looked like we had just had I don't know, some crazy face. Faces were like pulled and it hurts so bad. But we were like, oh, we've heard of this, like Hollywood actresses, they really taped their faces back in the day in the fifty right, Okay,

so we were thinking we were looking really good. We were taking pictures and posting and then may I say what The first comment was, may I did Jenny Kirth have a face lift? And then she got mad at me and she's like, I knew didn't look good. I was like, I think you look great. We just both looked super Yeah. I couldn't even close my mouth. I don't think they were making comments about both of us. And anyway, I love that picture still, so going back

to later that day, I stand by it. Going back to later that day, we had a picture side by side, and then I think you brought it up. I did. I brought up that there was a striking resemblance to some people that I was thinking of. Oh you know what, you were right. See you do have a good memory. Someone did mention it on on Instagram. You were right. We we we looked like, um hot chicks. Is that what it's called chicks? Yeah, in white chicks the way and brothers when they are in makeup to look like

white women. Now that you're say it, every time I look at you, I think, yeah, sorry, every time I look at myself, I see it. Like So then I mocked up a picture of our faces from that shoot on the poster of Marlon and Shawn Wayne's from White Chicks and if you're lucky, I might share it with these this Oh my gosh. We actually decided we were going to post it. We were all riled up a couple of glasses of wine, and then we didn't post it. We rethought that with a crazy trip though hours. But

it was fun. We had so much fun on our flight and it was just like we were first. It was so nice. Yeah, I had a good eighteen hours of sleep or whatever it was, and you sat there biting your real nails because you didn't have those hideous fake nails. Then you were biting your nail nails and you were like playing on your phone and asking for more champagne the entire eighteen hours. Every time I woke up and glanced over you, you were doing the same thing.

Are you a champagne drinker? On flights? I'm just a terrified flyer and she knows that. And here's the thing. I'm so scared of flying that there's very few people I will fly with in this world and she is one of them. Me lucky you, um. But it's really hard because she runs the gamut of like on one side, she's very nurturing and she'll hold my hand during takeoff. And then on the other side, she's just like, Okay,

now I'm gonna go to sleep. I'm and do my thing and buy and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, don't go to sleep, hang out with me. I'm I'm a tough lover. I believe in tough love. Yeah, were mixed with you know, like a softness. But so she went to sleep and I had to eat like all the chips and candy packets on the flight already. Woke up and they're just wrappers everywhere, literally everything really long. Did you guys get to travel a lot with Beverly Hills? I know, I know that you you went to Did

you actually go to Paris Tori for those episodes? I'm jumping ahead. I did not. That was on the back lot. No, you're killing my dream Universal. Oh it Actually I actually traveled a lot though there there were trips. Where were the trips? You went to Israel? Oh yeah yeah? We uh I in Gabrielle, myself and Parker Lewis can't lose but for pleasure reason went on tour of Israel. No whisper Fox and I think he had a show on Fox at that time, so that's with us. But yeah,

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one device, unlimited facials, endless results. Sign me up, sister. You guys are being hesitant to get back into this episode only because it was Luke Perry's first appearance on the show and we can't speak about him and without addressing the obvious and yeah, I could imagine that's really

hard for you guys. Yeah, that's what we were just kind of trying to um how we wanted to go about talking about this, because yeah, this is Dylan's first episode, So Luke Perry's first episode of Beverly Hills nine O two and O and um, that was a pretty exciting thing for everyone, I think, not just for those of us that got to work with him, but it was a big deal, like Dylan McKay was a big, big

deal in the history of like television. And it's a hard thing because as hard as people probably think it is for us to navigate talking about Luke publicly, it's still hard for us to talk about him privately and figure out how to do it. And because it's still doesn't feel real, right mm hmm. Yeah, I mean it's this is honestly the first time I've talked about it with a microphone rather than just like to personally and privately.

But it's just really hard. Yeah, I I I still don't accept it in a weird way you don't have to, Yeah, And it's it's seeing this episode, I definitely felt it takes you back to the moment and you almost are into it and you feel like you don't have to accept that he's gone, you know, Yeah, you just get

to experience it again. Yeah, it's definitely tricky. That's why when I said, I, you know, I watched the show back and I thought when it was over, I was like, wait, I don't want to be over I want to keep watching it because I felt that, like, you know, like he's right there. Obviously you guys can tell we had a lot of love for him, and um, it's a hard thing to navigate. I guess none of us ever thought you would get to that point where one of us would be gone. That's not something you think about

in life, and until it happens to you. You know, your best friends from high school like everything, and then it's part of life. It starts to happen. And and two you're in that moment and you hear about others, you just can't relate until it actually happens to your group of best friends, and then you all just feel like whoa, Like what what just happened? You just feel

that emptiness. I know when we did p h nine or two, and when we first got together for the first promo shoot, remember that moment, Oh my gosh, it was heartbreaking where Iron slipped and he said we were waiting for all of us and we were we count. You know, it's like when you have kids and you count your kids and there's there's always eight of us and you count. And I turned around and said, where's Luke?

And then I just saw him catch himself and he turned away and I could just see his heartbreaking and they started to cry. And it was what we were all thinking though, like he was just not there and we we didn't feel complete, and we still don't. As a fan, we don't either. I didn't want to accept it when I heard the news either, So I can only imagine how you guys feel. Yeah, I'm sure that

you know. As hard as it was for us, it was equally hard for a lot of people out there, especially his beautiful kids and just really unfortunate and all the fans just to see how much it impacted people on such a that part felt good because he had such an impact on the world. He really did, and and although they never got to see the behind the scenes the view into him that they did see, they nailed it like he was just as special as they all thought he was or wanted him to be even

more so. M hm. So let's talk about Dylan McKay's first episode. Yeah, he was. He originally just supposed to be in like the first few episodes. Was he casted to be a regular or I think not. I think in the beginning it was just a one off, right or maybe a few episodes, but he wasn't gonna be I don't remember, are you sure? Yeah? I think that. I remember I was told that Fox wasn't like they weren't sold on his on the fictional character of Luke or of of him at first. Right, Well, I know that.

And this is again just from my memory of the behind the scenes from my dad's perspective, So it's might not have been how it went down, but from my memory there they definitely felt like there was a lack of the bad boy. They wanted that, you know, squeaky clean, Brandon Walsh, you know, Jock, Steve Sanders, David Silver was the young kid. Yeah, like there was you know, where's

like the hunky, mysterious bad boy. Um. So I remember from my memory they they were testing people, so that makes me think it was more than just a few episodes. And I remember my dad on a phone call and he was really really upset, and of course I was listening trying to, you know, see what was going on, and they said, we want to look at other people, and he was like, this kid like Luke Perry, he's it this issue who I want to cast as Dylan mackay and they weren't sold and um, he said, he's

coming into tests for you. And they said, well, you can't bring one person and into test. Now. When you come in and tested a network, they always have choices because you have to give them choices A, B and C and you have to be committed that whoever they choose, you're okay with casting. Um. And he said, I'm bringing one guy in and that's it because he's the guy. And they said, we're not comfortable with that. And I remember my dad and this is so my dad's personality.

He said, well, if you won't cast him, then I will and I'll pay for him myself. Wow. And and that was it. I mean, I wish we had that power. I mean, just in the first episode alone, when you meet Dylan McKay, you, yeah, he's the bad boy. He's gorgeous. I mean, the camera loves him, but then you feel for him because you see that disconnect that he has from his parents, and then you like you have it's you have the full three sixty of emotions when it

comes to this character. I couldn't imagine, really, yea of the earth human being like you, that character you saw a lot of who Luke Perry really was you know a lot of what They were very similar in their makeups and because with Luke, you just you loved him the minute you met him, and you were just engaged by his you know, charisma. But it was not like over the top. It was just like this really calm,

easy vibe that he would get off to everyone. And I think that Dylan did that too, and that's why America and the world fell in love with him. He was he made everyone he talked to feel special, but it was genuine. He's the only one out of all

of you guys that I got to meet. Yes, your experience, So I met him about um, I don't when I first started with Ryan, when I took over on the More show with him, and he was probably a year or two in and he was promoting Riverdale and uh, and then he came in and I basically told him how he was my first crush and I had his posters on my wall and I had his I told him I had his Barbie doll and he got a

little affused, like it was an action figure. It's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but um no, it was just such an honor to meet him and you're right, Like he was just as lovely in person. It is sometimes you meet famous people and you're like, you have this idea in your head of like who they are, and then you meet him and you're disappointed or you're let down, And it was just not the case with him. Never meet your heroes, they say, I know, but he was

just he was that one you wanted to meet. Absolutely. He was so gracious and like giving of his love and time to all the fans, like that was one thing. Such a hugger, Yeah, he would hug everyone, and he just cared so deeply about everyone. Yeah. The only thing different about him and Dylan and I think is like he was hysterical and never minded, like making himself the butt of the joke and just like, yeah, he certainly

was a character. Do you have a nickname for you? Uh, he's the one that you can say, you know, he just called me gen Fiber. But I don't know, was there ever anything there? You had one? I had one, But I feel like he had this cute name for you, and I can't remember what it was. He called me Camel. Camel is that cute? Are we happy with that nickname? It was? It was better than Brian. Brian used to

call me Lamb, Chops and Chewbacca. So why do you have all these names so extreame, I know, and when you're a six year old girl, like, none of those names make me feel good. And Brian used to call me Lamb chomps because he said I had so much fur right here. Yeah again, peach fun. But as a teenager, that's like, like, you don't want a boy to tell you that this what's happened. This is stuff that you

never get over. When we did, I made a point of telling he didn't even He was like, oh yeah, And I was like, He's like, that was just like it was cute, and I was like, it scarred me so bad. Yes, um, probably because I liked yeah, but scarred me so bad that I now when I did Beach Night, I was like, I want to feel my face. I was like, my whole face has been threaded. Thank you. I wouldn't let it go, but that Chewbacca, he would go. You know, he did the same thing to me. He

told me, I'll never forget. I was wearing a sleeveless shirt and he but this is one of the two times I was wearing a sleeveless shirt and he was standing behind me and he said, you know, you can always tell a woman's age by her elbows. And I was like, my elbows. He's looking at my elbows, And from that day forward, I have a king phobia of my wrinkly elbows. Thank you, right, Gosh, I think I've told him that, but I also did. We had that

moment like listen what you did to us. And the time when I was lactating because I just had a baby. I was the only one of the whole cast that had a baby, and I was I was trying to be like, you know, nineteen and cute in an orange cropped stretchy tank top and at the beach club, but I was lactating and it was maybe it wasn't likely when my booze were just sweating. I don't remember, but

I don't know. It's really embarrassing, like under the boob wetness situation during our scene, during the scene, and he said something in the scene did yeah, but you could not notice it. It was like so we grew up together like no filter, like we can say anything. Can I go back to the nice name that Luke gave me? Yes, yes. So he told me, um that called me camel, and I was so offended and I was like, oh my god,

and I was like, this is so bad. Like Luke Perry just called me camel and he's like, no, it's because camels have the longest, most beautiful eyes and eyelashes, and that's you. So I love that name to this day. He loved you so much. I can't remember him just gushing about your camel eyes. Ah. He was a true, true in every sense, big brother. I mean, that's one of the big protector came with his character and his it Kelly and Brenda or Kelly and Brandon or is

it Kelly and Dylan? Oh Man, tell us what you guys think because we flip flop. Yeah, I do, I go, I go back and forth. Is that bad? Can't I have both? You know what if I can't just choose me, I'm going to choose both. Well, thank you. How about his overalls, He was definitely sporting those overalls with the one flappy down only one side up. Was that a nineties and they're like rolled up at the bottom, so very crisscross. But that was the style, that's what it

wasn't the early nineties. I was just riveted every time he was on camera. I don't know if that was because I was like a fan girl and excited it for Dylan, or if I was because of missing him or what it was, but it was like I loved it. I loved watching every second of it. You know, you guys were talking about Brian earlier, did you notice that his voice hadn't changed yet? His little pretty pupis voice right got to get defensive, like what are you guys

saying like he's fine? I had two questions about that, the voice and then the hair situation. On the at of hair, there was a lot of hair and it was kind of really glued into place and it never moved. Even when his head moved, his hair didn't move. But I liked it. It looked cool, but it was a mystery to me. Watching the show, I was just like, Wow, that's some hair. There's a lot of takeaways. I mean, even just right in they started giving they started talking.

I mean, the valley always gets a bad rap, like no matter what you know, I think, Betty Sarah says like I live in the valley, you know, I mean what I don't understand that there's always been a big l a valley sort of like feud, right if you live in the valley or not, you have to have like two sides, right, I guess. So it's so ridiculous because the valley is super cool, super chic. Now we're not.

We all live there. I moved to the valley, having left in thirteen years though San Fernando Valley that you know, it wasn't chic then. It wasn't Beverly Hills, that's for sure. Now it's like there's just as much hates when I mentioned this, but Beverly Hills Housewives one of my guilty pleasures. Um, they all live in the valley. They all live in Yeah, I wonder why I don't like that show. Okay, Um,

Betty was from the valley. Yep. Wait, but do you know what I really liked from the from the from the first I guess the first real episode of the series, Um was Andrea. Did you notice that you? Wait? You just said Herron. I know, I was like, do we It was Andrea in the first episode. I'm pretty sure in the first episode you were allowed to say Andrea and she didn't change it to Andrea until a little later. So but it was scenes that she didn't wasn't in

so she couldn't correct. I've gotten that information from a very valuable friend. So given your voice tone, we're gonna believe you. Know. Um. But she was the cutest thing to me. I always thought, I want to be Andrea. She's so cute and so smart and so spunky, and I loved her whole thing. It's pretty badass that as a I'm assuming you guys are sophomores and she's running the newspaper for high school, like, yeah, she's like working in New York Times in there. I love it. She's

really cool character. And then we kind of wanted her and Brandon to be a couple. Hey was that going on? Like right out of the gate in the in the newspaper office? Was she vibe and him? And did you get mad at it? I always felt like it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was jealous right away of Marianne Moore. You know, like right, what if things had gone a different way? What if Brandon and Andrea ended up together? Like could could that have been something cute? Yeah?

I feel like why everyone wanted that? So why didn't it happen? I love that like the hot popular boy somewhere deep down wanted the studious, smart nerd. So what are some of your guys memories from filming that episode? Absolutely nothing, No, I remember being You've got to remember this when we were like on the high school squad.

We filmed those um West Bever High scenes at Torrance High School, and I remember being walking on that quad with you and Shannon and Brandon for that one scene, and all the students from the real actual school were there. They were watching. That was my question between this school in session during the time you guys were filming, was scary. It was scary. I was terrified because it was like people, my peers, people in my age like watching and I

didn't high school. Yeah, that's so fascinating. Yeah, so we because their their bells would ring and they'd come on out and we'd be in the middle of a take and we'd have to wait for them to go back in. That's when Tory has her first line of this episode. Do you remember what that was? Tory? You, Brenda, your brother is dope? Is that right? That was pretty good? I think it is. Your brother is so dope. But yeah, Brenda, your brother is so dope. So cute, so cute, what

my real nose? Yeah? I love that vest. You were wearing two with the stars and stripes situation, like very patriotic. That was good. Yeah. Did you think that the clothes were better in the second episode than they were in the pilot? Like, And I think that that's because there

was a change in the costume designer. The costume designer from the pilot was different from the first episode, I think, and they just had a different like interpretation of the show and they wanted I think she kind of grounded it more and made it a little more believable and but still just enough like bling for Beverly Hills. The other one was a little clueless esque in like yeah, and and the other made the characters to trend. Yeah, like if they would that you could be these characters.

They were so real. I like that about the wardrobe. I mean we started to take on a life of their own and you could be like who, like who are you? Are you a Kelly? Or you a Brenda? Are you Andrea? Are you a Donna? Yeah? It's a huge personalities and fashion and it and the Yeah, the wardrobe really sort of picked it the character very clearly into the viewer's mind, like this is what this person wears, and this is how they you know, you identify with them.

So I thought that that was a really key part of it, you know what. I thought that in those quad scenes, Um, Steve Iron was like Steve was so mean to Kelly, what a jerk? Like Hello, It's because

he was in love with her. Hello, but he was like he looks at her ass and he goes liposuction maybe or so mean um by the And then in turn, it makes Kelly's character, it makes car Kelly's character moody and like you're you know, you're always on edge, yeah, because you're always being like judged and picked on and

called out. Like yeah, they couldn't tell you what they wanted to do with with those two, with Steve and Kelly, that relationship they it was kind of like who is Steve because he was supposed to be like the jerky jock, right, yeah, and he started out that way for sure, And my character started out very one dimensional, like really Hill's bitch girl.

And I think even in this episode, like for most of the first season, they were still trying to figure out what our characters really you guys, go to the beach and then you leave Brenda. Again, who does that leave their friend at the beach. She I don't think Kelly was very nice, but you hit you hit the nail on the head when you were describing Dylan and

saying it very much was Luke. They definitely were super smart in picking up the actors play the characters really right away and started viewing the characters away from what how they were originally one dimensional and depicted into kind of branching out of being their own person. And so

Kelly became more Jenny's more vulnerable. Yeah, and iron I'm Steve became more iron like funny and charismatic, especially down the road, like I mean sees many when your mom has baby and then you become like an older sister that kind of like that. I like babies. Clearly maternal instincts really kicked in. Was that little sister was born? Yeah, well I think that that Um, Yeah, I think that Steve was just real, real mean to Kelly. And I don't know, I thought that the whole um that's the

whole beach party was weird. The way Kelly work white cowboy boots to the beach part. I loved that, but what it looks on beach party? Why weren't Why wasn't

there one cared? Oh, I think it must have been cold that day when nobody wanted to Well, it wasn't the summer episodes yet maybe they went to the beach because it's like everyone goes yeah those but you literally, I think you were the first person to really create the mom Jean, which is totally in right now and doesn't even mean mom, but like that high waisted Jean, I think you created that. Look, do you think that's a pretty big statement. I don't know if I want

to be responsible for that. What do you mean our kids wear that now and you they have you to thank for it. Yeah, so I hear an icon Jenny Garden, deal with it? Okay? Thanks? Where was that beach? Was that Malibu? Pacific? Pali Stades? Do you guys remember you feel like it's upire? Yeah, it was Santa Monica, like borderline Malibu right near sunset or those fun shoots when you guys got when you got to go to different parts of l A. Always whenever they let us out

of the sound stage, we were like such. She is such a different memory of the sound stage than I do. You always say we were like trapped. It was like it was like a scary rape hotel. I hated it. There rap hotel. Wrong with you? I don't know, but I have very like it just represents some really weird vibes for me. I don't know. God, I loved it. I loved when we were on set, we're talking about our sound stages. These were the this is are we

actually was the Starhouse. It was a warehouse in Van Eys, California, which is really far from Beverly Hills. And it's in this like industrial by the Amtrak station. It would not be grownier, and uh, that's where we shot. That's where we started. You just said growtier. Is that a word? I mean, I get like in the eighties, like grow even in the Max. Totally, yeah, totally, she's talking about Valley. She just totally went back like that was a throwback

the Valley Girl. It was super growsy. Anyway, we we filmed there for the first This was the first episode that was some of those sets, like the interior Walsh House was on that in in that warehouse, and we just started filming more and more at the warehouse and less and less they would let us out on location and I just remember being like, when are we going out again? I gotta get out of here. Wow, did they have lock on your dressing room? That was the problem.

They only let you off your scenes. They had me tied up with my straight jacket chains at it walls is there was the one of the interior was on the set. But was the Walsh House an actual house? Yes? Where is it? You guys noticed right? It was different house. It is for the rest of the series, but it became Costa Walsh. So a fun fact, apparently it was a hundred and five degrees on the day the scene

that the Mailman was filmed. It was supposed to be like Minnesota, but really it was just like soap SuDS, a mixture of soap SuDS. And that was And then they put the address and I actually googled the address. It was like three doesn't go anywhere. It says that it's in Beverly Hills. But when you do like Google maps, it's not the house. Wait do you think people everywhere we're getting like fan mail at that address. I mean,

it's not an actually, don't think it is. But then when I when I looked on Google, there's fans that have taken pictures in front of the Walsh House. I just don't know where that is. I don't know, like what the act, you know, where is it? It's in Altadena? What? Yeah? And so is Luke's house. Still his house was so cool.

We filmed there a lot, and actually the people that own that house have like embraced it and they let people like come in the backyard and just look around like they it's like a a little museum out there, Beverly Hills, an Antonio Museum. There were a lot of different things about the this episode though than the pilot. So it was interesting to see the way a show.

We'll shoot a pilot and you know, sell a show based on that pilot, and then from the time they stop production on the pilot to the time they start production on the first episode, so much creatively happens with the studio and with the writers and with the producers and with the director, like everything, there's so much that happens that the sort of so many things change, is what I'm trying to say, from the pilot to the

first episode. And that's interesting because you know, they're really getting a lot more input from the studio and from the network about where they want the show to go and how do we get from here to there. So if there are a lot more kind of cooks in the kitchen after you sell a pilot, and that you had alcoholism a drowning and Brandon's saving a life going to the hospital, that's a lot for what it really is. I was telling Jen I was shocked in the this episode.

In the opening scene, Brandon has his dream and he has his shirt off. And we remember like Luke always had his shirt off, but like Brandon never had his shirt off. He was always like in his peach pit or and I think that's like the mean time, even at the beach club, I don't remember him ever having a shirt off. And we actually watched it together and I was like, oh my god, Jason has a shirt off. Brandon has a shirt off. Big did you get excited? I told you he's so lookable. He said, he's he's

very lookable. I know. Here, okay, so okay, here's what happened. I said, oh my god, he's so hunky. And you go, Jason's hunky. I said, He's not hunky, he's just like he's just really like you want to look at him. He's really lookable. He's lookable. God, he's just so damn lookable. That guy not to be mistaken with lickable. Wow, did you ever go there with him? I think she's asking you, Tori. No, I'm not asking Tori. Did I ever lick him? I don't recall a time when I licked him? What used

to lick? A lot? I only licked when I was Oh my god, used to be a liquor. I forgot about that, like talking about like a dog. What is this? Why weird would you do that? Yes? I just had a flashback from Margi age years and she used to lick It's true that it was like a flirty liquor. Jason's likable. And you said it, You said he's lickable, which is why I had to ask, Oh my god, you probably licked him. I'm going to ask him if you licked him. Ever. I'm sure he'll say it. Oh

my god, she's doing that. Thinks this again? I'm fidgeting. Okay, you know what, you guys. I have been friends with this woman in my whole life, and I know everyone she's had a crush on, even liked a little bit and Jason like they were always friends, but never anything and everything we have talked about him so far, She gets fidgety. You're messing me up now, is my bfs? That is hilarious. I would never know this about myself unless you just pointed it out. You're doing it again.

We're talking about Jason and I'm uncomfortable. Can you stop talking about me? Year old girl? Right now? What is that telling you? You're like, I'm a year younger? Excuse me, doctor? What's my prognosis? Then? I have a deep rooted, hidden desire to lick Jason priestly. Apparently, apparently let's let's simmer on that. We'll take a break and maybe come back with that or maybe come back with the nineties fashion

one or the other. Yeah, So apparently Brandon's car had a name and we were mistaken, but mean chance what we think it was, I don't remember, but we didn't get it right. Apparently because we've had some emails, we've had some communication, and apparently it's named Mondale for a very good reason. Why don't you tell them what the reason is? Me? Okay, so we totally had to look this up. So it is named after I'm gonna get it wrong. Walter Mondale, who is from Minnesota and there

in the Minnesota Twins. It's odd they would bring politics into it, though, I'm surprised. Well, Brandon was very political, and that's right, I guess so for the newspaper the semi year political. Now I didn't I don't know who da What you said, mon Dale is I'm not good with politics or American history pre Nino. I would write like the horoscopes. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not book smart, I'm street smart. Andrea or Andrea? When did the name change? Well, according

to gab Yea, it was Andrea from the get go. Well, she said that she knew do you remember this story? She was just telling it last summer when we did be h that she did. She know Darren Star and they knew someone in common that always, like would correct people and would say, no, it's not Andrea, it's Andrea. So when she was leaving for the audition, she actually brought that into it, and she thought that they liked that little court and so it became part of the show.

But we come to find out that in the pilot she's Andrea and then moving forward, she's Andrea. And don't even get you guys started on Iron Zering. You don't don't, don't please say it. Don't say his name wrong. No, his name is Iron, not Ian. It's ruined me because I look at the name, I A N and I say Iron. No matter what. There's an artist right now that we that we talk about on Kiss Ian Dior. And I can't tell you how many times I've called him Ian Door Lives. Nobody ever said Iron before Iron

zer Ring. Now everyone now, you can't not say Iron right, And it was a thing. He would take it. It was personal. No, so much of the last we had uh Maxwell Caulfield on the show and he said he was talking about Iron and he said Ian on the air and I was like, wait, it's Iron, but I

don't think he heard me. And I was glad you said something because inside my heart dropped programs Sweat, break, break Free, get out as quick as you can run No, because he was you know is He always would corupt and that was fine for him, but I always got so uncomfortable. It was so hard. As his friends to this day, if we're in a group and someone calls him Ian We're all like shock therapy or something, and then I just mounted, I don't know, so true. We

just want people to get it right. We just want him to be we love him. There you go, there's your eye in lesson anything else that you guys want to touch on from this episode, because one of the takeaways that just kind of like was a throwback for me was seeing the Walsh's house and in their kitchen their telephone and the cord on the telephone being fifty ft long, and that was just so how life was

back in the early nineties. Everyone had that kitchen phone house line, like it doesn't exist, that doesn't date us at all. Like like that remember that springy chord, Like you would stretch it as far as you could. You could go into another room and close the door. Yeah, now we twirl our hair. You have to get that. When we talk about Jason Priestley, No, I feel like that phone. I I that was the new style phone.

But you know because he didn't have that one before we clamp it down on the thing and you wrote that was from like the four that was right before that. Yeah, so this phone was super cool. It was all like on one thing and handheld. At the time, there was still cordless phones like they existed because you guys had him I think, like Kelly Taylor's bedroom had a cordless phone,

or Kelly Kelly had a phone inner car. Yeah, but for whatever reason, the kitchen phone always had a chord and it was always a hundred feet long like in every family's house. You remember, it had a cord as well. Yeah, where did that go? Where the cord go? That was? Did it go into the engine? Like how does that? I don't understand these things fake because I had one too. But you know, but did you have the brick phone that was like it was like holding a brick up

to your face with a giant antenna sticking out of it. Yeah, we all had those for the days. Man. Well it was Beverly Hills. It was given the audience just to taste of luxury that the rest of America I guess didn't get to experience. You know, we can we talk about how we were talking earlier, how Shannon's hair was drastically different from the pilot to the second episode, first episode. You know, yeah, she got she got bangs, bangs, and her hair was darker. I think darker and the almost black.

Everyone else's hair kind of stayed the same. Oh no, Jason got rid of the mullet. Brandon didn't have a mullet in in this episode. Oh was it different? I don't know looking at his eyes. Their relationship Brandon and Brenda is just it was just so pure and lovely. As a twin mom myself of boy girl twins, I only hope that they can have this fictional relationship Brandon and Brenda did, let's hope. Do you think Brenda and Brandon ever played doctor? Why are you gonna? Where are

you going with? Sorry that kids do it? No, they do it. Honestly, It's not like a creepy thing. But what are you getting at? I don't know. I don't know. But in b h nine, we had a scene that was prompted because for years it was all over the internet that they the fans always thought there was a little bit of sexual chemistry between and when did look it up? Look it up? Oh god, no, don't tell me things like this is so gross. I was not

an agreement. I feel like I physically scarred Sisney, just now, are you? My worry is when they become teenagers and I like, they have their friends over and then like I have to be like on the lookout because there's gonna be teenage hormones in the same age. Oh, this

is all fictional, don't worry. I'm I'm saying um so much so that in b H nine O two there is a dream sequence that Shannon has about her as Brenda and Brandon and they make out what how do I not remember this from that always used to write in about that question? We gave it to them. Yeah. I couldn't watch that those dailies. It was hard. It was a complete opposite. I was literally steering this like there. It was just so beautiful to see how much they

loved each other as brother and sister. And I actually got teary eyed when she was reading his article and how he genuinely wanted her opinion at the end of the episode, like read my article for the newspaper. Like, now, you guys have made me feel bad that my mind went there, So I'm sorry the only one. I'm just saying what every fan has expressed, every fire, every pervy fan things