Life's a Beach'am (S2 E10, “Necessity Is a Mother”)

We missed the kids, of course, but it was a much needed parent only vacation. Right. We were discussing, like, is it a baby moon when it's here? Well, we would typically say second, but it's your third but your second birth. Yes exactly, so yeah it was a baby moon. Well, we're glad you're back. We're glad you're back, and I'm sure all the listeners are glad you're back because very I'm happy to be back because when you're not when you're not here, Sis, I actually have to do my homework.

Yeah that's not sure, do you do you? I have very detailed notes this week I'm so excited, you guys, this is me for this podcast. I'm gonna sit back, I'm gonna relax. Ab let Tori run the show. This is good because student, you do the hard work. This is cool though, because Tory, you're kind of the star student in this episode, so it really matches up. I was just living living up to my image, like imitating art.

So let's get into it. Let's do it. She's ready to go, you guys, Let's talk about this week's episode. Episode ten of season two, Necessity Is a Mother, aired on September n Synopsis. Dylan's long es strange mother, Iris comes for a visit from Hawaii, which soon lands him in trouble at a local billiards club. Meanwhile, Steven Donna

decided to play the stock markets. Yeah Baby. Directed by Jefferson Kiddie, written by Darren Starrs, Steve Wasserman, and Jessica Klein and starring us and starring Us Yes, this episode was a lot all about Dylan and his mama. Enter the fabulous Stephanie Beacham, Iris McKay. Who guess what you guys we have on our show today. That's right, we'll get to that a little bit later, but we're interviewing her and we have some very fond memories and it'll be great to catch up. So let's dive right into

the beginning of the episode, shall we we? Shall um? Okay, right out of the gate, Dylan looks just amazing in the pool hall. He is everything he needs to be. That that is just him at his prime. I feel like he looks beautiful. He just right right away. Guys like it. It made me think of that old movie cool Hand Luke get it? And now he does look great. Do you remember if it was he a good pool player? I mean he Dylan was he? They certainly made it look like he was a good pool player. I don't

know if that was real. It looked real, it did. It made it look like a good surfer too, which he was not. He was not. But I'll tell you what he's not good at. He's not good at driving. Um he's driving that. There's a scene where he's driving Brenda home from wherever and he rips into the driveway like a bad out of hell? That's isn't that the expression of bad out of hell? And he is, uh, he's not a very good drive for he like drives over the curb and slams on the brakes. Maybe he

was mad, maybe he was already drunk. I don't know, something's going on. Yeah, maybe that that's just how you gotta If you have a car like that, you just gotta drive it like that. Maybe that's the thing. That's how bad boys drive cars like that, anti cars like that. M hmm. Brenda's ties back, I was very happy. I've gotten to passion. I don't care for that look. I know that you guys like it happy, I'm not my favorite. Well, yeah, Brenda's tires back. It was a different tie look, like

this would be her second tie ensemble. Yeah, that's right, it's back. I wonder how many different ties we're going to see. How popular was that look in the nineties, Like is that where women wearing that to work? And that was like the style. I found a picture of myself on a talk show where I was in a white tied shirt, button down shirt, a tie and suspenders and pants. So I was taking one out of Shamon's book. Maybe what color was your tie red or something? I

matched my lip to it. You know, it's very Paula Abdul, right, didn't she wear that book a lot. I'm going on record, I'm not a fan of that, and I know this one loves Annie Hall and now she wants to go to that look at some point in her life and she's not doing it. I don't want to be Annie Hall. I want to be just tying. Can't Keaton. I want to be It's it's like smart lady, look, mhm is, don't mess with me. Look I like it. Well, we were pulling into the driveway with Brenda, so his mom

is there. He it's unexpected. She's there from Hawaii. Um, which we'll get to this later, but Stephanie Beacham tells us they made her from Hawaii because she had the worst American accent ever. Yes, you can, you can tell. I was like, what is the accent? Is that American or is that British? But I feel like it was British kind of trying to be American but it didn't really go over so well. So they made her from Hawaii, which makes absolutely no sense. It was Madonna. It was

very very on trend at that point. I enjoyed it. She was beautiful. I loved her hippie look, her whole like easy going vibes and departure for her as an actress, because coming from you know, other shows that she had done, Dynasty and everything, she's always so glammed up and like made up. This was just really natural and pretty, Stephanie,

did you like that ty die? Like that silk? I feel like we would wear that nowadays, Like it wasn't nineties, but it was like it would be in now Like that tide kind of tied up shirt with the matching skirt. I loved it. Does she looked comfy, Let's bring that back. Did you like her little braids? Two little braids to really set the mood that she's out there. Yeah, that was like a note. I bet that note came from my dad, who was very invested in hair and makeup.

Oddly enough um and war Jobe, but it was very like, I want their hair this way, And he always had to see polaroids were in back then, UM, and he would always bring them home in his briefcase. But I bet that was a note like let's do something hippie esque. Mm hmm. So Iris was also really into astrology, which I know you love. I loved that. Um. Yeah, I like I like her whole vibe, but I feel like

she's she's super super cool. She comments that Dylan is a Libra and that Brenda is a Scorpio, which isn't a great match. But Luke actually was a Libra. I are so that's in October eleven, so it's interesting that they wrote that in the Dylan was a Libra as well. But Shannon's actually an aries like you my best friend, although you guys are very different, um in good ways. Uh, And that's interesting. They made her scorpio, which would be November. What is Kelly? That would be a question for I

don't know. Darren texts big fan, super duper fan with that, not just a super fan, because I do believe in astrology and um. Scorpios can be challenging and um and Libras are kind of usually peacemakers. They usually don't have tempers like Dylan McKay, but I don't think they go together. By be curious to know what Helly is because I wonder if that's a better match. No spoilers, You're a sa Donna was a Sage or Capricorn. Christmas Christmas Day would be cap Capricorns or I don't know. Decemb I

want to say, Sagittarius, does that feel Undonna? It worked for the storyline one episode. I guess Iris does make a comment though about um Brenda having really negative aura. Did you guys hear that? I did? And I feel like, uh, maybe I hate Brenda fan club was born right then and there people were like, well, I mean, you can't argue with it because she's so over the top with Dylan and Iris in this episode, like she's on him

all the time and pretty rude to his mom. I mean, I was like, why is she being so rude to his mom? And I guess it was just based on you know, Dylan sharing his experiences with her and talking to her about it privately, but like she didn't have any level of respect for her for his mom, which I thought was a little weird. That's a little um dare I say it? Um on female? I feel like instinctually, um, we are there for women and we you know, women

support women. So even if you know the boy in our lives is saying like the mother like you always are like hmm, let me see what's really getting on? Getting let me see what's really going on woman to woman. So I was surprised as well that she kind of came in very aggressive, defensively. It is your boyfriend's mom, I would want to impress her a little, even if they're estranged. I don't know, that's just me. Yeah, definitely,

So we got some on Kelly's birthday, it's inconsistent. Shoot talk to kind of goes to the theme of the show, Okay, talk to us. In season three, Kelly's eighteenth birthday was celebrated in March, and then in season six, Kelly's twenty one birthday was celebrated in September. Wait, air date, but the air date? Doesn't they say it's March, or they say it's September, because air date doesn't matter. It may have been the episode date, Like whatever was happening in

the episode, what season was it? What were we wearing? Was it? Like? Is that how we tell those season's Okay, wait, okay, let's just go through this for a second. So if it's March, I'm gonna go with March like end of March, because then you could be an aries, which you really are. And Dylan was a Libra, which Luke really was, and that kind of makes a love story even better for me. I like that because real playing really like it. I like it. Let's go with that. Know what, if that's

what you want, that's what we're going to be. Kelly's birthdays in March time stamped right here and here, right here and here. Did you guys feel that it was foreshadowing at all that Donna would be in business with Steve and now Tory is in business with Ien that you, my friend, I didn't get that at all. Okay, it's so funny what you take away from things. So okay, So jumping to the Donna Steve storyline, which I was really grateful for. It was like a good story, juicy

storyline for me. Um finding my voice, which you know is a big thing but over over arching theme in Tori's real life, as Jenny would know. I know, and that's so not me. Um. The character of Tori is no. But it's like, finding my voice has been a big thing, and my best friend always helps me find my voice, and we've been working on it and I'm getting there. You're getting their girls. Donna was getting there too. She I felt like Kelly was a really bad friend to

Donna in this episode. I felt bad the way she was treating Donna. I mean, she kept saying she was stupid, and she didn't say you're stupid, she said, don't be stupid. Don't be stupid. And also I didn't really understand why Kelly would care that much about Donna spending money because, as to Kelly, you know, money is just an evergreen thing, you know. So I didn't under I didn't really get why Kelly was supposed to be the voice of reason for her. Maybe it went with the theme of the

episode of like mothering. Like it was almost like Kelly was very mothering. You guys are both so smart today. Yeah, this is where we are, but I'm loving it. Um. So, I was gonna say another thing about my life, Like I've always feared that people would think I was stupid. Um just I don't know why. So that, like the feeling of Donna thinking people will assume she's stupid is very on point for me my whole life, thinking people will assume I'm stupid. Um well, why do you think

people would think that? I have no idea. I'm not sure, because I think you're a female. Um. I think it came originally because who my dad was, and he was the producer and people would make assumptions and perceptions, and they would say things like, oh, she just has the part because of her dad, and she can't act and

she can't can't, can't. I heard can't so many times that I guess that went into my brain as I can't be smart, I can't think for myself, I can't have a voice, I can't anything because I'm just told no so much publicly. Mhm. And also that's not true. I was gonna say I wasn't that good in school, but it wasn't bad. And you're super smart. You're smart. Everybody has smart intelligence in different areas. I think. I always tell my kids, Uh, I'm not book smart, I'm

street smart. Okay, So if you were going to have to talk to me as your kid in a mothering way, I'm not booked smart and I don't want street smart. So what type of smart? Oh, let's we're gonna have to come up with a different category, clearly, right, m Your business smart? Oh not money. I didn't say money. I did say don't go to them. I didn't say money. But I think your business smart, thank you. I think

your business smart too. Um so, but it's funny, Donna was good at the stock market, which is money, which maybe that should have It made me laugh exactly. It didn't rub off at all. The interesting thing is, if they were going to write that in there, maybe my dad would have been like, maybe I should teach her about money and teacher investments and teacher about all the stock market he and my mom's stock market. But nope, nothing nothing. So I played it on TV. Didn't know

in real life, still don't. It's so funny because I I don't think about money. I don't I'm not a money minded person. And I don't do math like just ever, Like I don't when you say numbers to me, even if it's a phone number, my brain just goes like I can't handle any kind of numbers. So I didn't teach my kids about math or you know, money, finances, anything, And I feel terrible about that. And I always said to their dad, like you have to pick pick up because I can't do this. I don't know, I don't

know anything about it. So just the other day, my twenty four year old came and she was asking like real life questions about um money and a job and getting a raise and um w not nine ten one ten. I see, I don't know stuff like this W nine forms. Maybe I think I just think it's not the one you clean with. It's not the Okay, she was asking

about all that stuff. Clearly I shouldn't ask you guys either, but I was like, I don't really know, so thank goodness, my husband Dave knows about it and um, but she said, yeah, you and Dad were no help when I needed advice about that kind of stuff because I was always like, I don't know cale Andy, who's like in the business management firm, Because I don't that's not good advice to give your kids, Like you should sit down and try to teach them about I guess money managed in school, Like, yeah,

we can't do it. School needs to teach it. I don't think we should. We need to learn about trigometry or whatever Brendan is talking about what even don't even know what trigonometry is, but uh, they shouldn't teach about that. They should teach about real life applications of like finances and so many management and as basic as how to write a check and like like it's things all the ways. That's clearly nobody writes checks. I write a check every week what do you What are you guys talking about?

I write a check every week? What are you talking about? You get a check book out and write a check to that person. There's still there's still some of you out there. How do you wait? How do you do it? If you don't write it? You guys? Venmo or electronic payments? Some people don't have that. No, I know what you mean. There's still some. So my housekeeper, who's literally Jen knows her well, like work for my mom since I was thirteen, started with me at eighteen. She's my grandma. I call

her mama. Um. She doesn't know about electric transfer. She doesn't know this stuff, just like I don't. She didn't have VENMO, so I write her a check. I mean, I use checks still too, but I don't write them out anymore. They come off of a computer. But I still have a checkbook, but it's all out of checks, like there's no checks that it you guys. I got fancy with investing. I was on my Venmo the other day and it told me I could do bitcoin, crypto,

all that jazz. Oh, clearly not. But it had the arrows going up and down like a stock market, and I saw the up arrow, So I said, you know what, I'm gonna roll the dice and take a chance. I invested a hundred dollars of my venmo in bitcoin. Yes it's seven bitcoin. It sound seventy four dollars and twenty three cents? Am I gonna be? Okay? Should I sell? Donna sold? Should I sell? Write it out? Sell? I say, sell, sell, sell. I have no idea. But if I sell it, I

only get seventy four dollars and three cents. No, no, you will. But I'm just saying so at that point, hold on, okay, you hold onto it. It'll come back up. It'll come back up. And the minute it comes back up, j G. The minute it comes back up, I'm selling it, just like Donna did. I'm going to take a lesson from my character on the show. Good for You. You'll

learned something from this, rewatch. I think that all of our listeners have learned something from this episode two, and it's how money illiterate we all three seem to be. It's so sad because my dad is an accountant and my um my husband works in finance. He's the director of finance. Like I couldn't be more surrounded about with money, and I'm just like, well, thank god, that's great that you're going around you that are Yeah, you're gonna be okay.

We there's there's a saying. What was the saying that your ex said to you about you in regards to money? Because it applies to me too, and I always think about it except now, which I forgot. Wait when he said someday you're going to thank me for this? Oh no, not that one. Uh oh, there's only two quotes. I can remember that one and um, your your penny smart and dollar foolish or is it the other way around?

So know how to save We like bargains, like we'll go to Target or go to somewhere, but w end up spending so much money there that you could have spent into something else. It was in regards to this conversation, and you said, right, is that it? Yeah, you're a penny smart, dollar foolish. I think so that's me too. We have to stop talking about money now. I'm getting anxiety break. I like breaks. Okay, So when we come back, we're going to interview Stephanie Beacham, who played Iris McKay um.

Of course you know her from well she worked with Jason on Sister Kate, and she was on Dynasty The Colby's and we're super excited to see her again. Okay, we are very, very honored and excited to be talking to Stephanie Beacham right now. As you know, played Iris McKay Dylan's cucko Mama free spirited. So excited to see you again. Oh, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. I mean, it's been far too long. I know, of course, story what I really think of is you and you're twelve in

truth Beverly Hill. I know, it'sn't that crazy that we got to semi work together two times, even though we never were really like in major scenes in either in Troo Beverly Hills or nine or two and now Donning. I observed you behaving so beautifully when you were over hot in Santa Monica Park or something like that, and and you were so hot and you were asking for no privileges and you were just one of the team, and I thought, that girl is fabulous. Thank you. You've

always been so amazing. That day that a couple of days it was like over a hundred degrees. People were passing out like crazy. It was it was hard. I thought you were very very cool. Well, besides that, my dad loved you so much. Obviously, he worked with you time and time again because he thought you were so amazing and so kind, so special, and he basically changed my life. M hm he really did. I mean I was a divorcee with I mean I was successful. He

just changed my life. He turned it into chechnica. Mm hm. So your first job on television was with Aaron Spelling, because I know you trained at RATA and you did a lot of me me. My first job, what I think that television was in black and white. I played Mary, Queen of Scott's. Uh you know that did historical drama and stuff like that. Can we talk about Dynasty and the Colby's before nine o two and olm, I just said, I have to, yes, yes, okay, this is this is

what was really fun. Then I did Sister Kate, which was when I played a nun, which I just was a good contrast to Table Colby. And Jason was my eldest orphan in this orphanage that I read. And when Luke needed a mom on nine o two one, oh, it was Jason that said you need Beecham your lover. And it was Jason who went to your daddy Tory, and said, how about Beacham for Luke's mom. And that's how it happened. I did not know that. I just assumed because my dad loved working with you, that he

wanted to incorporate you. That's why. That's why it happened. Because you didn't thus say no. He said, oh well wait, and then of course I turned up with one of the worst American accents ever, and so they decided that I had to have come from Hawaii. Wait. They wanted you to come from Hawaii so you could use your real accent. No why, That's why I had a rather strange American accent. For some reason, they just thought it would work. Well, there we get I've never heard of

Hawaiian with funny accent. Everything comes full circle because this isn't the reason Jason got the part. But I was such a huge fan of Sister Kate. I was obsessed with that show that when my dad was casting Beverly Hills Now to know, I said, you have to look at this guy, Jason Priestly. He's on my favorite sitcom, Sister Kate. Oh, and of course he watched it and my dad was like, oh and there's Sephany, Oh my gosh. Like it was just yeah, so it all works together.

We were all meant to be together. Oh, I tell you I missed the old days, don't you. I missed your daddy. It will never be Yeah. It was definitely a different way of making television that I don't think will ever happen again. I was talking just that somebody was asking me. I mean they do on a daily basis, but somebody was asking me on the set today about it, and I said, it was extraordinarily because it was like

being under contract to old Hollywood. Being under contract, how you could borrow the clothes, you weren't to wear jeans, those sort of things. You know. It was. It was a very very wonderful, wonderful time. Um. And it had its definite rules and they were easy to follow. So did they breath knew on too Dynasty already knowing the

intention of doing a spinoff? Or was that first I got cast as say, we'll call be married to Charlton Heston, sister in law Barbara Stane, you know, in all the most amazing cast, and we went to a party, Um, uh, John Forsyth and Lynda Evans, you know, with with Crystal's Place, and that's how we span off. That's how we started the cold Oh my gosh, amazing. And can you talk a little bit about the wardrobe because everyone talks about

the wardrobe from Dynasty and Colbies. Just to mention the wardrobe and you think of Nolan Miller at six o'clock in the morning or earlier if need be, on his hands and knees inning ahem. He was so hands on, that wonderful man, he really was. And he gave me the great privilege of making a figure for me in the workroom because he said, you don't change shape like Elizabeth Taylor, you know you you stay the same shape,

so I can make you a figure. And therefore we only had to have the original conversation about what it should know, what it was needed for the scene, and then the fitting. I mean that in itself was as glamorous as could ever be. It's only the only thing that was a down side of it was having new shoes every day because they heard five inch new heels sort of, and because when I met Linda Evans for the first time, I thought, what on earth are you

doing wearing those fluffy slippers? Well, I was in fluffy slippers in between takes. Very soon, I promised, Yes, we love the fluffy slippers. Between takes. You had your own, Judy,

You had a figure your own. That's amazing. So when I used to go because he was to me, he was uncle Nolan, and I was fascinated with going to his shop and he would let me come to the shop when I was little, and he would take me through all of the amazing iconic actresses and I would see their figures, their duties and their names on it, and I would just be obsessed and be like, this is what I want to do when I grow up, and just look at these beautiful figures and be like

I want to be an actress. And were all these glamorous clothes? Um, But you guys definitely created fashion for a decade, totally totally. And I can remember one Halloween when the guys in West Hollywood, if they weren't Lynda Revens and they weren't Joan Collins, they were say, we'll cold the um because we were the most wonderfully done up people on the planet, weren't we. I mean we we The values that were put into that show were extraordinary.

I mean the materialistic values and the sets, for Heaven's sake, I mean the true glab, true glab. The sets were amazing. They were they were like my house growing up, but they were but a real set, like the details that ash trays were real, and just everything of such opulence. It was an amazing Sorry to spend so much time in this, but I know people are fascinated by Dynasty and we're so excited to talk to you. Barbara's Stammack said to me, don't ever eat the caveat And I said,

why not, It looks great. She said, no, it will get into your teeth and your smile with black dots um. But it was real. It was near or not real cavea. I mean, it was extraordinary, wasn't it. Oh my gosh, real Cavia. And I feel like on Dynasty, like nowadays, wigs are back in and everyone's wearing a wig instead of doing their hair over and over again. I remember visiting the sets and Linda and Joan had wigs. I would visit their makeup room and I'd be like, oh

my gosh, that was new to me. I didn't understand, and did you wear it was all bone hair? Wow, where did you go on? Where did it go on? Um? That was all my own hair. And Barbara Ronsey was the hairdresser and she I said, what am I going to look like today, Barbara? And she said, I don't know. I haven't felt it yet, but just create amazements. No, it was, it was. It was pretty dawn special. But come on, goes, what about n O two one? Let's talk about it? And I kid, what a very different character.

Forget about that. I just remember laughing so hard when I came into the makeup room one morning and there you all were fast asleep in the makeup trade and the makeup jos passed out while they were doing our makeup. Of course, we were growing teens. We we needed our sleep. You were you were fabulous creatures. You were you were, You were a terrific bunch of an amazing energy. Thank you.

Oh my gosh. Well it's because of Gus stars like you that our show was so successful and um, you know, such a memorable was because we were just it was really it wasn't it. It was a brilliant idea. It was terribly clever and it worked. Incredibly Well, it really did. It was a lovely show. Yes, Iris brought so much, so many complications I think to Dylan's character and made his character so much um juicy or deeper more meaningful. Well, you're you're very sweet. But I think that amazing actor

Luke could do anything that he wanted. He was he is a I mean, that's a great actor. What what is your favorite memory of working with Luke? With Luke? Oh, actually my favorite memory is Luke and Jason singing Tom Jones songs in the in the makeup room. Gave me a whole Tom Jones concert in the makeup room. That brings it all back. I remember that, Yes, yes, just the sweetness it because the off time is just as important in a day's work, isn't it as as the

work on screen, because that's what gives the atmosphere. And when you've got people who are really lovely to work with, um and lovely to be around, well that just makes the blitz, doesn't it. Yeah, the connection show on screen, the energy between the people. Definitely, and you guys definitely had that. Yes, we did. Actually, I both my boys, my boys um uh loved dear Um. You studied early on to be a mind do you is that something

that you used? The mind thing was pretty magic. It was in Paris and I was no pair at the same time and doing this mind thing and it was terribly serious mind and did these fearsome exercises. I mean, I can dislocate all the parts of my body because of these exercises. We're not displ kate, but isolate. Yes, that's it. No shoulder movement. Wow, maybe we have a future. Maybe we could be mine. Stephanie. We gotta get you on TikTok. Yes, that would be I'd do a good tire,

you would, Stephanie. Before we go, what you said you're working today, UM on a project. Can you share with us what it is? Okay, it's a really funny, really exciting adventure film UM called Renegades. But I'm a policewoman who is trying to solve things and I have a very small and fun little part. It's like it's like fifteen people have got fabulous parts, you know what I mean. It's one of those it's so interesting. Sorry. Before we go, we always ask our guests would you be Team Brandon

or Team Dylan? And that's a hard one. For you to answer because we're so close to old of them. I'm sorry, blood comes first, it's teamed Okay, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us. Oh you're so sweet. It's such a pleasure to see you too. Thank you, Stephanie, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. We love you. M h Okay, guys, let's get into fashion, shall we. This episode had a couple

of good fashion moments, and you think it did. I gotta say, I was really into my floral dress that I wore in one of the stock market classroom scenes because remember NBH nine two O Darren Martin, our biggest fan, have that dress and and is it blocked back? Marbert, he keeps everything as it blocked back. It was very professional. It was very weird. He brought you a baggy with a dress in it, and I was like, weird, weird. No, but that's the dress he brought you. That's that's the

dress that he brought to the set that day. I remember. He's also like an uber collector, you guys. He has a whole room dedicated to nine O two and oh, and he has brilliant pieces from over the years. So he does keep everything like, uh, labeled and done. So he brought it and I was super nervous because I was like, I'm not gonna be able to fit into that. But thank you spanks for spanks. Later, I got into it, right, Jen,

you did. I don't know how many pairs of snakes you had on that day, but you got into it. You had to help me pee, I think at some point in the trailer, because when you got a pee, it's really hard to get spanks off. Wait, are you being serious? Do you really put that many on? Jen? Am I missing? She does? No? What's the most what's the most amount of spanks you Warren? For an outfit? Jen, I'm gonna go on record with three, Jennifer eve is that you know? I hate odd numbers? Oh? Okay four four?

She went with four. We're round up. It was four four. I don't know how you get the spanks on with your nails, Like it's treacherous and you don't do you like, poke right through them with those things? Okay? So here, okay, so no, I can get them on and off. It takes a while. It's no easy feat. But I don't know if you guys have tried skims by Kim Kardashian.

They're really really good, but she doesn't make a pea hole in them, And you've got to have the p hole because spanks are so tight that sometimes you can't get them off. But it's nice when it has that little hole, so then it's just a it's just a well, it's yeah, it's four of the same spanks that all have holes, so then you could. But all of spanks now make with holes in them for easy p um and skims do not. I love them. They're super good,

but they don't have a pee hole. And I tried once to cut a pe hole into it and the whole thing went to put No, I am talking about pe holes. This is I don't know the Family show. When this is a useful hack for women out there. Don't try to cut your own pe hole. You will ruin your undergarments. Okay, anyway, back to favorite fashion moment um. One of mine was Andrea's floral shirt, and I loved it because my mom has a couch in that seem

floral pattern still to this day. That is amazing. That's amazing. I loved that shirt. Sis, did you have a favorite fashion moment um? Not necessarily a favorite, but I'm really needing Cindy to step up her game a little bit with her outfits because the striped collared shirt thing she was wearing one of the scenes, I'm just like, she's so beautiful, let's like dress her better. And the jeans with the bell does not. It's not the best look.

I know. No oh I. She was so nice to Iris in this episode, so it kind of it wasn't cute that they were hanging out and she was kind of like going with her vibe and you know, trying new things. Wait, I want to ask you, guys, what is a mind jim? Have you ever been to a mind gym? Because in this episode, Iris take Cindy to a mind Jim in Beverly Hills, and I don't. I've never been to such a thing. It's so funny. I was about to say the same thing, but I couldn't

remember the name. I was going to call it a chill bar because I loved the bar set up and it was so like the glowing lights and glass Um, no, we should do that and drink garlic drinks. It looked like a real boring place to go. I gotta tell you, is it because like a place you go and meditate and drink tea or the evolution of that nowadays would be like an oxygen bar, right, or like a meditation um, you know, like the den. They have that meditation center here in l A. You can go and meditate. M

where you go float? Have you gone to float? I have never floated in a in a tank? What's that called? I thought? Tank? Yeah? Right, I did it. I did it one thing. I think you would go as nuts as I went because I couldn't shut my brain off. I had the million one checklist and I was just like, okay, so now couldn't in your trapped in like a tank of water? Yeah, I think I might have gotten seasick. They always have any times in the middle of the mall.

It seems weird to do it tanks. Yeah, I've seen that. Oh my god. I was gonna say, that's like getting a chair massage in them and all of them all, but I stopped myself. Do you do that? I do that? She's pointing at me. I will get a massage wherever someone will give me a massage. I love getting a massage at the mall. Like I'm down for that. I know I would get a massage in the grocery store

if they would offer that. I mean, I'm all for those a little tie like massage places where you just like can walk into welcome as long as they have a sign up that says no happy endings. But in the mall, I would think you, of all people would be worried that you could private or like, you know, like someone. But once you're once you're there, like in the saddle with your face in the thing, nobody knows

who's there. Nobody sees what you're looking like. It's only when you get out and then you have like the paper stuck to your face, or you have like an imprint of the round thing and you're you're going on down to bed Beth and beyond or whatever to get your shopping done. It's a little weird, you know. It said like, have all your shopping bags near your massage chair. You don't want to make you steal it with your

feet a little bit exactly. Note to anyone in l A when you were in a mall, check out those chairs because you never know who might be faced down in them. It might be Jenny Garden. It's a great deal. It is I want to go today. Let's go get one today. Minutes in. Well, I have the best line from the episode I was watching. When I was watching it, it didn't it wasn't in the episode, but when my husband walked through the room and I was watching it, he goes, why is Brenda wearing a tie? I love

that favorite line? Uh Brandon saying you'll get used to it. Pal. Is it the word pal that? Yeah? I was hey, pal like I don't know, I was pal a lot. It's an old school term. My dad used to say pal. But it was weird to see a teenage boy saying pal to his best friend. I don't know. Mine is from Kelly Brenn. You can love him, but you can't save him, true dad. Yeah, she was kind of tough love on that whole telling Brenda how to hang out

with what you know, how to deal with Dylan. Oh, I'm surprised you didn't love the scene where she told Jim Walsh that he could mellow out, go somewhere, grow a beard, swim naked. I'm sure you got all hot and bothered with that scene, didn't you. I did not get hot and bothered, No, but I did. Now that I'm thinking about Jim. I did like his um, his leisure suit at the dinner table. I love a man in a eat your suit. We have to get James

ecass On here. We have to is this infatuation um recent or did you feel this way when you were actually filming with him at the time. It's a teenager. No, this is just as a fan watching the show back. I have daddy issues. Hey, sis, do we have any questions from listeners? We sure do. Okay, so let's get to Erica's She's asking, did your significant others ever get jealous or annoyed with your relationships with castmates male or female?

M that's a good because you guys had a tight bond, you know, like even if it wasn't you know, you guys didn't were like a love connection on the show. But like since your first husband, feel about the wedding gift that Lukes sent, we send me said a huge smile. What is it believe you're bringing this up? Okay? So I got married when I was twenty one, wow, And we had a beautiful wedding in Beverly Hills. And Luke couldn't come to the wedding, but he did send a gift,

and he sent a breadmaker. And the only reason he sent a bread maker was because it was called Mr Loaf. I don't get it. He wasn't a fan of her first husband. He he felt that the title said it all got it? No card, no card, just Mr Loaf. How did he feel? He didn't know, He had no idea that he didn't make the connection. He didn't. He didn't know it all. Only I knew you might have gotten mad at the time, but secretly you were laughing. Oh yeah, definitely. I don't think I got mad at

the time either. I think I was just laughing because it's like a like your brother, would you know, like say something about your your boyfriend and your husband or whatever? But I don't. Oh please, you want to hear another joke he said about I don't even know if it was more my husband or or boyfriend. I don't know what it was. Oh yeah, so and so is having friends over friends over tonight. Ten friends. He hasn't seen it in a while. His toes that was about the same. Yeah,

I guess that thought he meant. I don't know, he felt like my husband had a big tummy or something. Yeah, I think he's not even a beer gut at the time, because I think he was jelly probably, Yeah, sounds it. Yeah, we were all really close, so for me, it was always just a matter of managing that, especially with the male co stars, because I always just had to say, they're like brothers. You know, these are like my brothers,

and you're going to have to deal with it. You're gonna have to get over if you have any issue with it, because we're really close and we have to be and you don't need to be threatened by them. But they watch the episodes, Um, yeah, I don't remember ever sitting down and watching an episode with an X that was like, you know, Kelly making out with somebody.

I know now when Dave watches episodes back with me and he sees Kelly being sassy or like sexy or kissing some guy, he just makes a big joke out of it, like he laughs at it and get but he does. You can tell he gets a little bit like stirred up inside and he deals with it with humor. Yeah, that's like a clear sign. Um. There's like a running theme of Luke not liking our exes. Because Luke hated

one of my ex is rightfully, so everyone did. But anyway, at my parents Christmas Eve party, Luke punch my ex boyfriend and that was really uncomfortable because I lived with them and he was like it was a whole big deal. And then I had to go to set and it was really hard because Luke was really upset and we

didn't talk for six months outside of filming. That's crazy to not talk to somebody outside of film, mean, did that happen more than once with any other I was mad, but not mad, like I knew it was right because he was supporting Later I saw that he was protecting me. But at the time, when you're in the relationship and you're the one that's getting yelled at it at home, like why are your friends so mean to me? Like you have to deal with that on both sides. So

I was like really mad at Luke um. But yeah, he was right. He was always right. He was just so protective of us, and hindsight, it's so nice. We had such great brothers, you know, totally Okay mc nsy is asking. Tori has openly talked about how she and Jason had a summer romance. Was it taking place during the filming of these specific episodes problems that she just has her head in her and did it ever cause

problems on set? Especially with Brian. Literally, if you guys could see right now, Tori is hiding from this, hide from the question. The microphone is right there. We can still hear you. Did hear me go? Yeah? But when did you openly talk about summer? Was it in a book? No? It was on It was on a show called Celebrity Lie Detector. I couldn't lie. You could have lied and then they would have like guessed that it was true,

and then you would have won. I screwed up. I wasn't thinking clearly, and I panicked and I said it and and then it was everywhere and whatever. Anyway, Okay, so tell us what did you say? I remember, Jen, when was it? It was? Brian didn't care because by then, Brian, Brian I were a thing of the past. Now it was like, after looking at me, I'm like, I don't remember. It was the summer between season seven and eight and season seven and eight. I don't know why that comes

to mind. I don't know as deep. I'm not sure if it was then, but it was deep into this. I had brown hair, I go by hair colors during the whole filming, and now I go by when I had kids, back in my twenties and teens, I went by hair colors on the TV show I had ter college, so it was after college. Yes, yes, why did I well either block this from my memory or never knew about this? Was it secret of at the time? He is sneaking around? I haven't you. You can't tell people

to I was scared to tell you. Oh my god, you learn something new everyday. People. This juicy. We'll give us some more. Deed, No, she doesn't want to talk about it, that's all you said on that show. We're not going to make you elaborate on it if you don't want to, but we would really like to hear the details. It didn't cause any problems, and we've all remained really super close friends. You all right, do you want to talk about any of your secret romances? Jenny Um.

I don't think the question was geared towards me. McKenzie specifically asked Tori you question, and I don't think I'm in a comment on that any further. Well, I think that's going to do it for this episode. Ladies. Yes, thank you, so much. Everybody out there, UM, text me after where do you guys? I'll tell you all the details. I'm just kidding, my goodness. I love you guys. Oh. Next, We'll have a great week. Next episode, Season two, episode eleven, Leading from the Heart. Be there or be Square.