Ladies, Get 'em Checked (S1, E18 “It’s Only a Test”)

gonna say it, thanks for all of our stars. You like us, You really like us. Oh, the stars are so shiny. It's really nice. We're trying, we're trying really hard to do a good podcast through guys, and you know, we show up every week, we do our homework and sisanse always so happy to see us, and we're happy to see you guys. So that's a baby on board. She has fifty million jobs and look at her. She has youth on her side. And you know what I realized today is that my weeks of pregnancy are matching

up with the week that we're on that episode. So stop it. So today we're talking about episode eighteen, and I am eighteen weeks pregnant. Crazy stuff happens all the time. That's just weird like that, like little little signs that you're exactly where you're supposed to be. Thank you, Thank your husband for shooting it that day. Oh my god. Okay, eighteen weeks ago. Well this was episode, like you said, eighteen,

it's only a test a date March nine. The synopsis is Brenda is filled with horror when she discovers a lump in her breast, which calls for a biopsy. Meanwhile, the upcoming S A T S put extra pressure on everyone, especially Andrea and Steam. Things heat up during a study night together when an intimate moment happens between the two.

Don't done. Yeah, this episode started out with you know, S A T frenzy, it's a test, the S A T S. Everybody was stressing out about it, and quickly kind of shifted gears into a different kind of test, which was Brenda's um for rest examination test and she had to go get a test at the hospital. So I thought it was interesting the way they will have these two storylines together. It was very clever that I'm

not going to allow you. Guys, this is the episode I was kind of dreading coming up, um for obvious reasons. With Shannon. It's you know, I know everyone thought about it when when she had cancer. This was really hard for me to watch, Like I had to actually use it. Cry was a couple of times because it was just too too close, man, too weirdly sinked in a not good way. You know what is that called? That's like foreshadowing.

It was foreshadowing synchronicity. But yeah, but with outcome, obviously, Chand's a warrior, she's a fighter, and she did you know, she's resilient, she she bounces back. She's a fighter. And I think Brenda is a fighter too, So those things lined up in a positive way. But um, we've never talked to Shannon about it, but I can't help but know that must have thought about like, oh my gosh, only all these years ago, thirty years ago, gosh, who would have thought that you know, this would come true

thirty years later. Yeah. Yeah, we've never really said can you believe that episode where Brenda thought she had a lump and now you know that, Yeah, we've never really addressed that. We should and of all the characters, you know that. I mean obviously, I mean it lines up that they would have done it with Brenda, you know, one of the twins. But just the way it worked out, Um, it's just kind of it's shocking. Yeah, I mean, even without this sort of like weird synchronicity, the episode was

very dramatic and very like serious undertones. Yeah, thank goodness, we had a little bit of comedic relief with um Steve and Andrea. Thank you Ian Srin for always flying us with that A little bed flipped that. Yeah. Yeah, he was very very excited to plant his lips on Andrea. You know what I love the most I got to

say is I mean, I'm gonna be honest. When we filmed this episode, I thought to myself, Oh my gosh, I mean I think I was like seventeen, like we were teenagers, you and I. And I was like, I've never checked my breaths, Like I would never even think of it, you know, I didn't. I didn't know like this can happen to a sixteen year old. And I remember because we filmed that, like we had to do it on the bed and they taught us. Um, I

definitely like that. After that, I always checked from that day forward, and I think it's important, like teenagers watching this today that are finding nine out two one oh now, um too, it's relevant, like it's never too early to start and it's such a great message and um, I just think it's so important as women agree. Yeah, I mean we were young, and I'm sure doing that on the bed Kelly and Donna and Brenda was really awkward, like you know, the crew guys all standing around, and

I'm sure that was uncomfortable but very very embarrassing. But also, like you're saying, like super informative, very very helpful to so many young women out there. And I mean I mean hopefully, and I'm sure it did, but hopefully the show just really helped a lot of people with this that the way they wrote it in was really creative to They had Kelly reading it out of a magazine, which is what you did when you were in high school and your friends were over at your house. You

guys have through magazines and take the quizzes. And it was because they then had the shot of the visual, you know, like people could actually see what we were talking about. Just a really home like this is how you do it, you know. But to Jen's point, like, keep in mind, you guys, we were three teenage girls, all three of us were in our team still, and imagine doing this in front of, predominantly at the time, a male crew like you were saying, like, do you

remember what we felt like? Not like the actual physical part felt like, but like mentally, you know. I was just I was watching it and I was thinking, oh my god, Kelly is unbuttoning her What is happening. She's unbuttoning her shirt. I see there's all of her. And I was getting really nervous. And then I thought, Okay, grow up, she's she's just gonna do a breast exam. And I felt like the characters really, even though we were probably super uncomfortable, uh, we all did a really

good job of like not laughing. Like you know, there was a little levity in it with your line tour about aren't you glad you were a deoda in or something, But I felt I felt like we delivered the message as well as we could in that moment. There are probably some giggles off camera because we were teen teen girls having to touch our boobs on camera. Um, so

it's uncomfortable. I mean definitely, you know, I think it's important that people do that behind the scenes and something you would do with your friends if you're curious, but in front of, you know, a whole crew, Like how many crew members do you think would be on set during something like that, just like right around us, like the core, the grips, the electricians, the proper people, but many people at least at least at least So we're just trying to set the stage and you know, three

teenage girls, this is all new to us. It's our season one, you know, it wasn't a hit yet, and we're like, oh my god, what is happening under the spotlights of those huge, huge lights they had us under in a really bright room Kelly's bedroom, which was so that was a lot like it's all the red and the pink and the artwork of herself. Who's that is that? Kelly? Yeah?

That's that? Or those are pictures of Kelly on Kelly's walls doing it in front of a crew at forty seven years old, and like, you know, I can't imagine seventeen doing it, Like, oh wow, that's more awkward than a love scene in a bed, really I I don't think so. I hadn't done a love scene yet at this point, so this was the closest for me at least. Okay, I mean, I guess I hadn't done a love scene before. That's a kiss that wasn't like a kiss in the

garage come on different. It was different. I don't know neither of us. I don't we hadn't any of us. Even Brenda hadn't done like love scenes on the show, but Andrea Steve did. I keep coming back to it because I'm sorry. It was interesting. My jaw dropped when we did b h n oh two one out. I don't know who brought it up, but the writers I think, brought it up that Andrea and Steve had had this

love scene. And I don't think we remember this, and we were like that never happened, that they never got together that, but hello, they did. That's it? Is this it or does it go further? I'm very curious to Andrea and Steve hook up again. I don't think one time special events one and one and done. We like special events, limited special events, special little special relationship. But she did look super cute. She did look super cute there on the bed with her took off her glasses

hot for teacher, look like without your glasses. And he's all, I mean manly in in his white tight T shirt is tight acid washed jeans. He's just so confident and like, oh no, I think I I as the fire of that age. I'd be like, hi, so burly. I always thought his room. Didn't he have like money behind him on the giant dollar bills or something dollar bills. He loved the money. But he was hot in that scene. And then when she left he was sexy, so she

she was super sexy. Yeah right, and yes, of course he like flipped over his bed and like laid down on the couch. And then when he's laying on the couch, right before that they cut to the next scene, you can see him going like like doing the funniest like like it was so cute and so iron like it just you know, that's like one of those so many times with um with I in it was Steve. Their characters are so blended to me, like because he brought so much of his humor and his like just love

ability to that character. I really want to meet him. I really want him to come on the point we want you to to. I saw this he posted. He says he wants to do it, and he's active on social media. He posted this video the other day of his lunch, and I watched the whole thing and he was making avocado toast with a poached egg. I watched that entire thing. His voice is just so soothing, and he was just so excited for his life. Was like watching,

you know, one of those like late night infomercial. Stop watching. Like if if he had had that avocado and egg toast for sale, you know what I actually was like, is he going to put a link to the egg, the egg, the hard boiled egg. Yeah, he had a machine that makes that poaches the egg for him. He doesn't have to put so, you know, irons a total entrepreneur. If he was thinking straight, he should have put a

link to that because he would have sold them. Because I was in I was like this with hard boiled eggs. I don't know if I'm I would buy hard boiled eggs. It was no, it was a poached egg, but he overcooked it. He did. He did so slow and then what one broke a little bit, and I was like, you know, good for him. This is real, this is real, which it never happens on Instagram. He didn't go back. He kiss feed you know dad life, but I for sure definitely long dam video. Now I know how I'm

going to spend the rest of my afternoon. Thanks guys. Going back to a lot of olive oil though he poured on it. Yeah, I think it went a little overboard the end, but it's fine. The funny thing is I was watching, I was like, God, are they our pennant and and me, I'm gonna eat this? And I was like nervous because I was like for young kids, it was very adults. He had some salt and some it was a lot not by the video stopped talking

about the sucking avocado tost video. I'm done. Sorry, Sorry, Remember we were talking about all those like the five stars we had and all, yeah, all the people lost them just like that to the show. Sorry, I'm hungry. I want to talk about the opening of the show, just because there was just win particular one moment that was like whoa, um, it's the nineties. There there's a kid sitting outside the school before we But if Ford ever really starts and he has the biggest, weirdest contraption

on his lap. I don't know what it looks like a typewriter, but ginormous. And I'm not guessing that was like the first ever laptop made ever by man. It's like it was like like a caveman laptop. It was. It was so huge. It definitely caught my eye. Yeah, I had to like stop, stop the thing and rewind and watch it rewind. Don't know, go back? What do you say these days? Um? And then also another moment in the show that brought me right back was that when when Carol is in the kitchen and she has

a giant phone book. Do you guys see that? Like we missed the giant phone by enormous yellow page and they don't have that anymore. They don't have phone books anymore. Where did all the phone books go? Isn't that sad? I remember as a little kid, as a toddler, you didn't take around booster seats and stuff, and you would go into restaurants and they would bring out their phone book and they would put it on the kid. You would sit on its table or a booth. Not crazy.

And also there was that joke too, We're not the joke, It's not a joke something about like I could listen to him read the phone book. Oh yeah, Like that means like somebody's just so good. You just want to You don't care what they're saying, You just want to listen to them. What would be the two thousand twenty one version and that nobody talks to was gonna Dictionary? But even that's like everything is digital. I could listen to him read read it all day long. Yeah, there

you go. But yeah, Brandon says right out right out of the gate, you can't study for the s a t S. He's very advent about that, right, He's like says, you can't study. You can but off for the s A t S. Did you take that SAT S? No, to him, I did horrible. Like I did so bad that I had to take it again in hopes that you get like a higher score, and it was like forty points higher. And I was like, Okay, that's a lot this acting thing works out. Now, that's a lot

of forty points, my girls. I mean, because that's the thing. You can take it three times now and you like pick your best score. But now colleges aren't even using SAT scores for acceptably Yeah. Thing in the past. That's going to be a thing of the past, unless you're going for like, you know, a doctor, like some a doctor, you know, if you're studying that. I think they don't even look at test scores anymore. They didn't for my daughter that applied this year. She did. She she was

given the option. You can either you know, send in your chest results or you don't have to just send in a do all the other things that you have to do to apply and write a really good letter. So like, yeah, I know, sis notes, we have to take notes. That's going to happen to us one day and me sooner than year. Oh my god, No, my kid just turned guys, and I'm having a real hard time with her. You know, I felt that on your Instagram.

I really feel like if you took a trip down memory lane with all those pictures, oh my god, the cutest pictures ever finding all day you guys. I don't know what was wrong with me. It was really weird. But I'm not sure what it is. You guys. I turned, you know, forty, and like it was okay, now forty seven and I'm like, it's fine. He turned thirteen, didn't have a big deal he turned fourteen, and it was as if my world ended. I don't know what it is.

I keep looking at old pictures of him. I keep crying. He walks into the room and I get emotional and I'm like, I can't believe this because he's so big now, he's just like a yeng man all of a sudden. But it it really um oh god, I'm gonna start crying. It was the first time that this has ever hit me, that that chapter is over, like it's it's finality. It really is like the baby making the baby, little babies them as toddlers, you know, and Bow two weeks so

my first and my last are ten years apart. In eleven days, so March second to March fourteen, and Bow turned four and then Liam turned fourteen, and it's just like I know, I mean, I know you know it to Jen, and it's just like you look at little babies. We look at you like you're embarking on this journey again, and it's so amazing, and it's something that's you know, it's a closed chapter in our lives and we can't go back. And my kids keep saying, but Mom, you'll

be a grandma one day. And you can hold all the babies. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm grateful, but wait till your way, till your baby turns fourteen, you're going to be a hot mess. Are you trying to break her? Right now? You're getting me, I know, because I think you know I'm a crier. Don't do it. It's so awful, And you're right like that, But I missed the babies, and I miss all the fun of being a mom to little people and chasing them. And it's really a hard transition, and as you get older

to think, oh, I'm never okay. That's something that I've really loved and valued and cherished and I'm never going to get to have that again. But then you have many things you could say that about rights you have to do. You have to sort of like reset and look ahead at being a grandparent and how exciting that's gonna be. Granny Tori? Can they call like that? You're youngest, it's still so young. You have grand names? Do you know your grandma name is yet? I think her should

be Tata. That means boobies. Why are you like it? For you? I'm gonna be tatas was actually my grandpa's name, that's what we called our grandpa. Was sorry, the Hispanic name grandfather probably not the right episode. Sorry, But okay, why don't you know what, Let's let's regroup. Let's regroup, got some tissue um, and let's come back. We still need to cover more of the s A T storyline.

And and then I have questions about how when Brenda went to the doctor and how the doctor was just like pooh pooed the mom and was like, you need to leave, and I need to talk to your underage daughter alone. So a lot of questions about let's talk about that when we come come back. Yeah. So in this show, Kelly's reading out of the article in the magazine when they're doing the breast exam and she says one out of nine women will get breast cancer. That was in so I was curious, what, you know, what

has happened over all these years? Have we gone better? Have we gotten worse? So in two thousand one, it's now one out of eight women we'll get breast cancer. That is so, there's that. So it's worse. That's worse, right, that's worse. That's so interesting. You would have thought that thirty years later like it would have we would have progressed, we would have like learned or but I guess maybe there's more people in the world of course now, Um,

but we're so much more informed now women. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And Brenda went in to get checked out and she's with her mom. I thought it was I thought it was so weird that the doctor told the mom to get out of the room and she would speak to Brenda. I'm like, does that happen? I don't

have kids that are teenagers, but does that happen? It's if there's a weird fine line when you're your kid becomes uh uh, you know, an independent person and they can function on their own and they should speak for themselves. And have you had to leave the room? Yes? I have had to leave the room? You wow, wow? Um, Because you know, of course it's like are you I asked, are you okay with me leaving room and whatever the

circumstances were, um, And they always said yes. And and of course I knew who they were going to be sitting with and talking with and um. And I also after they finished the meeting, I would kind of get a general fill in from the doctor or the person that they had met with. So it wasn't like I was completely out of the loop, but they just want

to establish that kind of um with Yeah. And and because you need that moving forward in your life, you have to be able to have full disclosure with whoever it is that you're speaking to a therapist or a doctor of any kind, you know. And so I think I think that's an important step in um, just becoming an adult and becoming your own voice. And I think I thought it was a good thing. But it was definitely you could tell Cindy wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah,

I wouldn't be either, but I guess I have to be. Yeah, the first time it happens, you'll see it sort of plays out in front of your eyes, and you'll make the right decisions. You'll you'll do the right thing, but it will feel a little weird mm hmm. And the doctor I thought was so great, she reminded me of my kind of colleges that I had. This is so weird, right, she remembers to me of doctor Goldman Um who was

my first guy ecologist. And I had moved to l A. I didn't have any doctors or anything and I must have been sixteen or seventeen, and at some point I needed a guy know, and I didn't know who to ask, so I asked my manager and Brandy James. He's a man. Why I asked him for a reference from my guy, No, I don't know, but he gave me one. I guess he probably calls himone and asked them he is the keeper of all knowledge that he really is the go to.

So he's had good on that because Dr Goldy was my my gun incolegist until she retired last no. Two years ago now before the pandemic. Yes, and she delivered my first baby and then she was supposed to deliver my other kids, but she retired from baby delivering. So yeah, but yeah, anyway, I love the guy in colleges. I love the guy, loved her. I loved her in the episode. And did you notice Jen at the hospital when Brenda goes in and she's getting Um, she's getting the biopsy

they say in the background, um, paging Dr Rosen. I like our executive producer was Chuck Rosen? Rosen, Dr Rosen, please come to admitting that is a fun fact that Another crazy takeaway is that everyone is you guys are all taking the s a t s because you're juniors, and it's common to take the SA t s when

you're a in the springtime, when you're a junior. But then no, well the show started out as juniors, but then when the second season picked up over the summer, got really popular, so then producers and and create has decided to keep all of you as juniors one more year. It didn't really bring light to it, So I'm curious to see, like if we'll see the s a t s happen again? Or are you sure we weren't sophomores

when we started and David was a freshman. I fact checked it because I was so thrown off what it would have been that we were soph and David and Scott were a freshman? Yeah, or was it just not mentioned that the first season or it was it just really wasn't mentioned per se. But you know, sophomores don't take the s a t s. In fact, if you read on like some articles, that says basically you were

all juniors. But they basically wanted to milk the high school years as much as possible, so they just repeated the junior for season three. So season three. Okay, so we were juniors again and then David was suddenly a junior with us. He moves up somehow. That's like soap operas when suddenly, like I mean soap opera's fact, you can like tune in thirty years later and be like, oh, the same characters are here. It's just things are a

little different. You can go right back into it. But I love when they have babies, like one one time in the soap opera and then the next thing you know, they're sixteen years old and have their own storyline and it's like there were a year in between. Mm hmm. Sorry, I tell girls, okay, are back to talking about s A T. S Oh. Yeah, we're getting some facts that you can practice for the practice s A T exams

as a sophomore, but official tests or junior year. So why did Dylan, I was confused on this, say that he's going to be surfing when he talked to Brenda and he said, and I'll take mind senior year when you guys are all taking them now, and I'll be surfing. Why would he do that because he was just cool guy? How could you take it senior year and like be okay, you can still tell ye beginning of your senior year he must have been a smarty pants then I think

he must have been. Yes, here's the thing that drives me nuts about the S A T. S is I and and test like this. I know I was in this group like test panicked me. I would gets so overwhelmed. But it doesn't mean and I feel like kids go by scores and they're like, I'm not smart. I'm not smart. Some people are just not good in fact at test taking.

So true and everything. I mean, it's better now, like you said, Jen, that you don't have to but before, oh my god, everything relied on that score, filling on in those little bubbles. It was madness, really scary, stressed me out when you think about it like that. Yeah, my I always really tried to keep my girls calm around any kind of test preparation, around any kind of homework, any kind of school work. Honestly, I've always like, just relax,

it's not the end of the world. Old life is about so much more than what you're learning or what you're testing on right now, And just really try to get them to calm down just so they could do their best because yeah, some of their friends were I've seen just freak out when they're have to have a test and they just get so much anxiety and then they flub it. M h, Yep, it's only a test. It's only a test, people. I used to literally test like obviously, not things like this because they were the

bubbles you have to fill in. But when there was like a written test, I used to go in, you guys, and I would be covered head to toe in like facts of what I had studied arm written on my latest. Second, that's cheating, well only if you get caught. So, oh my god, you're oh my god. It was. But here's the thing. I couldn't have known the test. I was just writing like things I had studied and memorized. I didn't do it all the time, you know, I'm dramatic.

So she did it one story. She wrote something on her hand one time. I've never cheated on a test, Jenny. I mean, I don't know. I don't remember cheating on a test. Now. I remember taking a test once with a hangover. I hope my kids don't listen to this one, but yeah, I remember going to school and I had gotten had done some drinking the night before and the next day I still felt drunk and I took a test. I did really well on it. Though. Let's talk about

Brenda's dream. Oh that dream. First of all, she looked beautiful and it's so beautiful. The dream looked like a like a like a movie like I don't know, like a who's that guy that did Beetle juice Tom tim Burton? Know, it just reminded me of timber maybe the lady and the smoke and the way she was dressed. It was really cool. It was beautiful. Um, I wonder I mean, I personally love that they chose to put her in white not black in her dream, which was expected, right,

Such a beautiful casket. It us like a beautiful casket. The casket thing is weird though, very fluffy. Yeah, I looked very comfortable. I wouldn't mind taking a little nap in there, But I don't know about being in that for the forever. And have you ever had to do a TV movie where you're laying in a casket? How you m? It's freaky creepy. It is creepy, like no thanks, And I liked the little bit of foreshadowing when she's going around to everyone and they're filling in the you know,

a B or C. What would you choose? And uh, Kelly had to choose. Uh sorry, I'm not going to get it dead on, but uh, basically take Brunda's boyfriend and she goes Kelly because that's the one you obviously chose, and not that you took him. You can't take a boyfriend our husband, like or a girlfriend or a wife or a partner. Uh. They do with their own thing. But later on you and I liked the little job that you did with that. That's what they do when

they march off and leave the other one. I don't know, um, but you know that was foreshadowing and I'm sure they didn't even did they know the storyline that they were going to put you know, Kelly and Jyllan together when Brenda wanted. I'm sure that there was a lot of story. I know people don't like us to spoil, but like, I feel like they definitely knew that at some point all the characters were going to be intertwined with each other. There's only so many characters too. Yeah, I mean, heck,

nobody saw Andrea and Steve kids. That's true. That's true. But I did think that the dream was beautiful and so well done and I enjoyed watching that. And I also really like the scene with the twins that when they were sitting on the b together and they were talking and Brenda was crying about her aunt that had died, and oh, it just was so sweet. I like that scene. Yeah, it was an emotional episode. It really creep That creeped me out, though, like, what are the chances that they

would give the aunt that had breast cancer? She had breast cancer right? Or was a different cancer? Is breast cancer? Right? Um? That at thirty five? You know, she Sheila was her name, and then I'm sorry, I just can't think. I was like Sheila Shannon, like, I don't know. It was just like weird coincidences that no one could predicted. But what

she was saying to really got me. It was she was saying that her aunt just became so so lonely m h. And she's sort of like distanced herself from the people in her life that loved her because she had to, she wanted to. That's but it really got me just thinking about that, you know, and in the connection and made me want to reach out, but I do.

I do want to say though, regarding that we talked about before, was now it's one in eight women, and I and how that sort of seems like we're going backwards. But I do think that the because of early detection and all the improved treatments, the deaths from breast cancer have dropped significantly, actually seventeen, so great strides are being made and we definitely acknowledge that it's so important. And

but it's all about the early detection with anything. You guys like not to be too serious, but you guys have to be your own health advocate. You have to be the CEO of you in every respect, and you need to take stock in your health and pay attention because you're the only one that's going to there's no doctor out there that's going to, you know, keep track of you and make sure you go all your appointments

and make sure you're completely healthy over the years. There's no spouse, no partner that's going to do it for you.

You have to do it for yourself, and it's best to do it now, Like start today, do something that you're like, I know you know this is in my genetic makeup heart disease or breast cancer, any kind of cancer, Like if you know you have genetic pre existing risk factors, start there and go look into um getting you know, start with an annual checkup of that specific thing um and target your attention so that you guys are taking care of care of yourselves because I want you to.

It's all sorry, stop preaching, be proactive. No, it's everything you're saying is so right on and so important. And I think a lot of times we forget, you know, even as as we forget and you fall back and you're like, oh what am I doing? Of course, but here you know, people be like sixteen, isn't that too young? But like it's not to look at Brenda. She had you know, she did have a tumor and it worked out,

but you just never know. So m She had a lot of support though, from her parents, all of her friends, even though Kelly and Donna couldn't really figure out the right words trying to make her feel better. That hug at the hand though, it was so sweet and the gift been like when they showed him the gift thing, guss gift basket ever made it? You have the floral arrangement from like the Four Seasons or something, where did

you get that it's so big and obnoxious? We are like we were overcompensating, I think for our inability in the previous I felt real bad about it, but I felt that scene at the school where they're finding out about it was really genuine because you wouldn't kids don't. I wouldn't have known at that age what to say or how to be there for someone. So I felt like it was a pretty accurate scene was really authentic. And I loved Brandon in this episode. Yeah, he was

so thoughtful and it was about somebody else. I felt like it's that last scene with her mm hmm, like sitting on the bed, just like I would have missed you so much, Like I don't know. I was just like, ah, did you missed your brother? Um? Well, he's that sounded that sounds important. It's not because he's not dead, but it made you like it reminds you of that like sibling connection. And it didn't make you because you have

a brother that's close to your age. So yes, my brother is five years younger and I do miss him. He lives importantly. I missed him all the time. Um, but just I think the yeah, you're right. The note there is don't wait till it's something that could be life or death to tell someone I love you. That was the thing with Brandon, like you know, he was we don't see them often enough kind of we see the sibling rivalry and they kind of support each other.

But this was just like whoa. It was presented to him that this could be major. She could die, someone in their family did die from this, and he was like, he poured his heart out and it was so cute. Yeah, I love a gooey Brandon moment. Me too, and was Dylan. So Dylan told Brenda I love you right outside her front door. Was big, that's the first time. That's the

first time I believe. So yeah, and then she that's why she calls him, and all she says is I love you, and then she hangs up with answering machine. Note you said answering machine. I was going to say voicemail, but nope, it was an answering machine. Answering machines back and have a message at the beep. And remember when

people would try to be funny. You probably did that to any message after the beep, and then you go beep before it would actually be maybe I don't know you do the bake hellos hello, and then they think you answered hello Hello, Okay, hey, that was fun. Thanks us for acting that up for me. Have you changed your voice more recently? I have not lever listened to my voice, Smail? How would I know? What is it? Her voice? Smail makes like she'll let it go to

the answer room. She didn't want to hear what it says. I swear I have no idea, So I can't tell you how many times I have called and it's and I'm like hey. So it's like I gotta tell her something about work, and I'm like hey, and I start talking and then I hear her like she's messing with people, and say I want to hear it, say hello like like you're answering, and so then you start talking and then you realize I don't know what you're talking about.

All right, well don't pick up Okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay, what's up? I bet you changed it? Oh we almost answered it. Okay, she's calling me and no, that's different. At the No that did that didn't sound like hey, it's me like almost like your answers their phone. Hey

it's me. No, I'm telling you. You guys before it was like hey, like you you Literally every time I'd be like, oh, I got fooled again because I'd be like, oh, hey, how are you and then she'd be like it would be beat beat, and then she'd be like, leave a message and I can't. I can't remember the last time you actually left me a voice message on any device like that. This doesn't happen anymore. Doesn't know you don't okay. So also, you and I both are known hate talking

on the phone. Hate. I do not like to talk on the phone ever, like phone phobia. We have phone phobia. It's not weird. We've had that forever, Like we have that in common to like, it's just even though I'm like family members, I don't want it takes a lot for me to be like, let's get on a phone call and chat it up to me too. Um, So I am going to announce them that my best friend

I don't know what I did last night. Yes, so she's been uh sliding into my d M s. You're so um, you're so like young and relevant like so that's the new thing, Like no one no one like texts people anymore. That's them. I'm lazy, is what it is. I'm too bringing lazy to switch to the messages because I happened to be on my Instagram and I see a message, so I just respond there because you're already there. That's true. And so the thing is you can tell

when someone's active. So you're like, hey, if you like reply and they don't reply back, well, I guess that's not true either, because if you have it on your background, it's if you leave your app on, you're always yeah, okay, so my apps always on? I don't know. Yes. So she was like texting me, but d m ng me and I didn't check it. And then when I checked it last night, I was like, oh my god, and like,

are you bringing this up? I'm only bringing it up because I feel like dm NG is very relevant right now. And if I hear one more person say hey, oh yeah, let's get in touch, I'll just, you know, slip into my d M. And I'm like, sounds so dirty, slip into my d M. I'd rather text me. It's more. I don't know if there's something more personable about it, right, But that's how like social Yeah, slip, but why do

they say slip? It sounds really nasty to my d M. And then someone yesterday told me they were like, hey, just drop into my DM. I'm like, oh in my outstated now I had just gotten like cool with like slip into my d M, and now I'm like, oh, I think it's dropped now to your d M. Is when you know you have all the d m s and you don't notice it and then and then you see it later. I think I drop into your d M must be like bam, I just sent it like

we dropped right? Interesting? Interesting, Okay, yeah, these are very important conversations everybody, Ye JOHNA. Martin. So it's like there you go. Well we need to talk about fashion and our our favorite lines and then also get to a few emails. Um, so let's take a break and we'll come back. Hey. This is Becca Tilly and Tanya Rada Rad that's me. Yeah, and we have a podcast called scrubbing In. Yeah, we do. We are two best friends and we love Grey's Anatomy, hence the name scrubbing In exactly.

And this week we have one of Grey's Anatomy's very own Anthony Hill, who plays Winston on the podcast to chat about what's been going on. If you follow as aonomy, you know that. I mean, there's just a lot to talk about. There are sudden deaths, people are coming back this season. There's a whole lot going on. It is a huge season for Grey's Anatomy. So I highly suggest you tune in. And you're not just gonna get Gray's Anatomy. I mean, we have girl talk. It's just girl talk.

It's like you're talking with your best friends on the couch. Yeah, except not with your best friends. You're talking with us, your virtual best friends, virtual bfs. That's right. So listen to Scrubbing In on the I Heart Radio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So in this episode, the rem Brands song played during Steve and Andreas very surprising. Kiss Um, why don't we talk to

the rem Brands? Now we have Phil solom on the line from the rem Brands, your half of the rem Brands. This is what I find interesting about you had have had over four decades of friendship and beautiful artistic collaboration with one person, with Danny Wild, And I find that sort of symbolic because Tory and I kind of have that seem very long history together, still working together, still loving it, and I was just thinking, like, what do you think is the secret to that kind of a

successful relationship with a partner. Um Probably that we just don't know what else to do and we just keep on doing whatever comes up. You know, if there's a secret, somebody please tell me. Well, I think it's pretty obvious that you guys have a great love for each other and that you have, um built a level of trust that you don't maybe have with other people. So you guys are comfortable well to each other. Yeah, we have a I don't know if it's like an intrinsic thing.

From the minute we met, we kind of knew that there would be some you know, we were in separate bands out in Hollywood at the time and just kind of ended up like, wow, okay, we created a new band and got in it, and then eventually this remembrance thing happened. So yeah, on again, off again, right. I

love that. I love that about you guys. Relationship and remembrance for me, just there's just so melodic and there's so many beautiful harmonies, and that's just think Yeah, that's what you guys your I think, wasn't your breakout kind of song for the Remembrance? Wasn't it just the way it is? Baby, that's just the way that's just exactly. As a matter of fact, that's the first song that we recorded as the Rembrands, and we weren't in called

The Remembrance the time. We just got together to write some tunes and maybe get a publishing deal, and that was the first song we wrote, and h it was the first thing record and it just kind of all fell into place from that. How did we get so lucky to have no show? I mean, we had your music on the show, but do you remember, I mean, you have so much to remember. How did we get so lucky to be on the show? Thank you? But we felt lucky to have you grateful? Yeah, that was

big for us. That was major. Oh really it was more major thing to show well we both benefited in a good way. Then yeah, okay, can we get to the Friends theme song? Now? I'm time to know what would you like to know? That was your second song? Right, hit song? Well, we had a couple other songs that weren't quite that didn't you know, really become smashes or anything.

But then pretty early on Yeah, we stumbled into the Friends camp and when that came out, we were just we really thought it was just going to be like we will be the mystery sound of this show and that that will be that. But then our excuse me, a record company decided because there were so many requests everywhere on radio stations for it and it was only a forty two second long song. Oh my god, you guys are going to write more to this and finish it.

We're gonna put it on your record. And that's how it happened. Wait, I have a question. Sorry, I probably everyone knows the answer to this, but what came first? The chicken or egg? Like? You had the song? It was a hit, and then friends, how does that work? They license it to be the theme song or you wrote it for them. We wrote it with the music director of the show, and he had the idea of mainly how it would scan out. Has to be this long,

it has to be here's some parts. He had some he jammed out some piano stuff, and then we uh, you know, experimented and they have Allie Willis sending lyrics from her place via facts I Love her, I have facts machine. Well, I have a crazy question. Do you get paid every time that song comes on? Jenny Garth, I'm sorry, you get a little slice. You know. The show is just I think they're saving it. They're going to surprise this one name a big present, a big

Christmas bonus. My twelve year old and my nine year old or obsessed with friends now and they've discovered it and they think it's like their show. They have no idea that I was like, oh my god in the nineties,

like this was our show. They think it's something new for them, and they're like friends, and they have all like the merchandise that's out now and Target like friends, and they they walk around singing the song and it blows my mind because I'm like, oh my god, that was me in the nineties and now my kids are singing it, so yeah, you span generations. Wait, so Courtney Cox playing, she learned to play the song on the piano.

She actually played. Yeah, I saw that couple three four weeks ago she uh put a video out on Instagram and I was, yeah, it was her playing. I didn't know she could play piano, but you know, we did a video together with those guys and Courtney played drunes and video. That's right. So I've always wanted to ask a famous musician this, but um, I don't know any You're You're the only famous musician I know. So what what happens when you're in a rust or in a

bar and you hear them play one of your songs? Like? What happens? Does everyone look at you? And are you like? Like? What do you do? My My internal calculator starts adding up how we get? I love you? Man? So wait, so what are you? What's coming up next for you? What do you got on the back burner or the

front burner? I don't know. Well, it's funny because we just released a new album last year, well actually the end of and Uh, and then we were fixing to get out on the road and promote it, and we had a whole tour booked and then this COVID thing kicked in and everything got canceled. So maybe we'll pick up where we left off when when it's safe, if you ever go back out, we could be your groupies when when it's safe to go back out. I'm kind of us about going back out. Spent a whole year

in my house. Well, I think I'm hope that you guys are comfortable and everyone is able to come and see your your concerts coming up. We just want to say thank you so much. Thank you, it was great talking to you. Were such fans. Yeah, everybody has linked love language, you know, how you show your love to someone or how it is that you show up in a relationship. For me and my husband, communication is not our strong suit. We don't communicate easily efficiently together or

to anyone. But we're just not good communicators. So my husband made me. Um, when I had to go to Canada, he made me or how would I have to go anywhere? He makes me want a playlist and when you listen to the music, you get the message of whatever he's really truly feeling, like, because all of the songs say something amazing and make you feel so loved and like just talk about he's the luckiest man in the world,

and you know, like he communicates through his music. I think that's Oh my god, I'm rushing on Dave right now. Oh my god. He'll make you one too. He loves to do it. I swear maybe it'll be it'll have a different theme obviously, but he'll make Oh my god, So I'm gonna slip into Dave's d M s. No, I'm sorry, I'm in. I'm I follow him, so he follows me, so drop it. I'll drop a d M to him and say, Dave, like for my birthday, when you make me a playlist? He will be so happy

to do that. I was looking on Instagram yesterday and Dave was on and um he by the way, he's the most supportive like friend ever. Like all my stories, Dave's always there. It makes me feel really good. No, I'm always like, oh good. Is it that? Or is he just spending a way too much time on his I think he's efficient. I don't know. I feel special too much. But he was eating what looked like a can of peanut butter. Oh my god, did he even? I almost like he wasending first made me think I

was like, oh he's missing her. Look at this looking poor guy. It's come to that, and you know what it's come to that made bad deep in the pantry. You guys, it's not just a jar of peanut butter your can. It's a giant can from like restaurant depot. Because I bake the pies for his restaurants sometimes. Oh, and I have a lot of supplies. That is one of my pie baking supplies. And he would ate it

like that's for the pies. But like like you're talking about it about communication in your own love language, like that picture set a thousand words. I was like, Oh, he's ready for her to come home. The canopy in butt industrial size, it was night. Oh that's good. Should we talk fashion? We didn't. Oh we didn't. Oh, man didn't. I didn't. There was no like like standout fashion moments for me in this episode. I mean, all the boys kind of looked the same as each other. Pleaded pants,

blousy man, blousy shirts. Dylan it's the first time I've seen Dylan and as Steve Blouse. My writer, am I right? I was like, go to the blouse barn are right, let's see. Yeah, And it was like I'm looking at a picture it right now, black collar, black sleeves, and it was like puke green and like lavender straight, Like what's happening. It's crazy. Then they had a really cool pink suit at the hospital. Cindy looked great. Yeah, she had another the other time when she went to the

doctor's office, with Brenda. She showed up at the school. She looked like a Beverly Hills mom all of a sudden. See funny enough, I didn't love her outfits in this episode. I felt like they were trying her when her hairs like loose and she had her mom jeans and a blouse tucked in and just kind of looks so like they definitely felt like the costumer was trying to her aunt to change her Yeah, fitting into Beverly Hills. Her hair looked different. It was like all around different. I mean,

I'm going to be honest. She looked older like she usually looks so care free and fun and young and like cool mom and I love her looks. And here I was like, oh, this is like an example when people are like, oh my god, do I look like you? Kind of I look like I'm wearing my mom's clothes, like she looked like she was wearing mom mom clothes. There wasn't a lot of other great fashion modes. Did you guys have a favorite line from the episode? Perto lay it on me? Um? So my line I loved

and I'm sure you guys loved this one too. Was Brenda's hope for the best expect the worst. I didn't like that line. You don't like it, No, philosophically I disagree with it hope for the best because it's like kind of like, Okay, here's the worst case scenario. If I expect the worst, then I can only be like happy with anything better. I guess you're right, it's a little glass half empty. But yeah, I just I don't know. I don't think you should expect the worst in any situation.

I think you should always expect the best. Fine, you're right, and it's like manifestation. Yeah, like, don't even think about the worst, think about the best cards anyway? Okay, sorry,

going um mine. We talked about kind of already and it wasn't my favorite per se, but it stood out to me, and it was Kelly and Donna telling Brenda, and I think Kelly is the one that said it that she really doesn't hope that that that ever happens to her breasts, and then it was just it just came out so wrong and we both made it about us. I hope it doesn't exactly and then like me to um, what else? Oh, did I have a favorite line? Did you let me think? I want to think Oh, yeah,

I would have to be. I guess my hormones are raging at the end, when Brenda says that when she doesn't have the thing, I thought, I thought it was really cute, and I thought that it well, that was cute. I think they even like showed a glimpse of Dylan when she says that, tell me about it, Yeah, right, tell me about it? All right. We have some questions from listeners. Ashley is saying, I have a question for

Jenny and torr. Out of all the different seasons of NOO to know, have you ever been jealous or envious of someone else's character or storyline at the time? Was there ever a story arc you wish your character would have gotten to experience. Well, Ashley, as you asked that question, I was thinking, what would it be? What would it be? Um?

The only thing that came to my mind instantly, which I'm sure there were other instances definitely where I was like, oh, that would have been so cool to have that storyline, um, was when we were all at the This is a spoiler alert, but I have to um, we were all at Dylan, and I think her mind name was Tony's wedding on a Cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean in Malibu. I just remember, wish it was you, I did well.

I wish that was me getting married to Dylan. Oh really, I can't remember that vividly because we were just the guests for more of the sake of Kelly marrying Dylan, or just for the fact that, like you wanted to act out a wedding, like being a wedding dress. Both. I wanted to marry Dylan, Okay, I wanted Kelly to be marrying Dylan and having that special, beautiful wedding because it was beautiful. I don't know. I'm biting my tongue,

my lips, everything, I'm biting everything because it's so multi layered. Whatever. What was, what's yours? What's yours? This question? Damn it.

She's like, don't go there, you need to answer. I think for me, it was probably the first couple of seasons just um, not jealous so much, but watching all the girls have storylines and dialogue and and kind of you know, my my character grew slowly, so it was just a lot of one liners, which, honestly, sometimes one liners are harder, especially if they're not going if you have a zinger of a funny one liner, that's easier.

But if you're sitting in a scene and you have one line and there's a whole scene you're depending on, Like you're looking and you're happy, you're listening, and you're listening, and your eyes and you know, it's just it's difficult. I just looked really crazy. I don't that seems going to be weird, but that there were times where I was like, Oh, I can't I can't wait. I hope one day I have like a big storyline, I can have a scene where it's two of us and I'm

just we're talking back and forth. And it happened. Obviously, your dreams came true. They hated it. I didn't expect the worst. That's exactly my point. People, You're right, Okay, Sean is asking a very serious and long question. Um, so here we go. How does this make you, guys feel? Now watching the show and seeing Brenda with a scare and knowing Shannon is currently battling her second round of

stage four. Also, after Shannon left the show, there was an estrangement as far as I know from the media, between Jenny and Shannon. But when Shannon had cancered the first time. Jenny posted this wonderful tribute and created the best hashtag hashtag fight like Brenda. It was so moving and wonderful to see the sisterhood and bond of the friendship reignited after all those years. How did that all come about? Well, Sean, that is a long question. Um. First,

I'll dressed the beginning. I think that. Yeah, we already kind of talked about that in the beginning of the episode. How was out of It was hard for us to watch this, yeah, and who knew? And and now watching it back, it's it's eerie and it's not it's not good. It's not a good feeling. Now it was you know, we I remember like when she had fought in and overcame and was in remission. We we looked back and

we're like, oh, that was a coincidence. But she came back from it, and obviously you're correct, she's you know, battling it again. But um, we believe in her and she's such a strong, strong woman. UM, and she does so much. She's such an inspiration for women everywhere, UM going through this. So it's still hard to watch them. M hmm. I'll be glad to get to the next episode. And I mean to address the other part of your

question because I don't want to be rude. Um. Yeah, there was, uh you know, there was the word out there that Shannon and I didn't get along or we were estranged as you called it. Um. I don't think that's the case though. I mean, Shannon and I are two aries women. I don't need to say any more than that. Um. We lock horns sometimes as rams, do, you know. And I actually like that about her and she likes that about me. So UM, we've never had

a problem with our differences. I don't think. Uh, there's been times when there's been feelings hurt and things said, but that you your sisters. At the end of the day, there's a bond that we all have with one another, all the cast members have with one another that it it is like it's like super glue. You can never break that bond. And so we're all going to be there to support each other at the end of the day,

no matter what any of us are going through. Whenever one of us truly needs the other one, I know that they will be there for me, and just like we are for Shannon. But I didn't know that you did that hashtag fight like a Brenda. I love that because it's so true. I mean yeah, I mean that's a good one. I made up a good hashtag that day. I might have a career in hashtags. You guys, Hey, if this podcast thing doesn't work out, which it will because we have five stars, but little it could be

your side hustle creating hashtags for people. I'm want to work on it. Good stuff. Well, I think that does it for today's podcast, Ladies Homework Assignment is Episode nineteen. April is the cruelest month. Be there we We will see you all next week. Bye, guys, I lippened to my d N. I'm just kidding that, like the funny one liner at the end.