It's Getting Hot in Here (S1, E17 “Stand (Up) and Deliver”)

gotten a lot of flak. People don't like it when we talk, So let's talk about the show. That's all we're look I can't talk, We can't have a funch, Sorry, we can't have fun. This isn't our time as well, We'll do it this way and see if you really like it this way, because you know what, I thought, maybe it would be nice to have a little it chet before the episode, but apparently we'll save it for later.

Maybe right, and so, Episode seventeen, stand Up and Deliver It, aired on March seventh, directed by Brinkerhoff, written by Darren Starr and Amy Spies, synopsis. Brenda, tired of being treated like a teen, moves out on her own into a shabby apartment owned by a hippie stand up comedian. Meanwhile, Brandon runs for junior class president against the fellow candidate and has to deal with Kelly and Andrea vuying to manage his campaign. What we do? Wow, I love of

two women. Okay, what do you think about this episode? Well, go ahead, tour tell him how you fek about. So here's how I feel about this episode. You guys watching just as a fan, I'm going to tell you I wanted to uh literally rip each and every one of my eyelashes out and stab my eyeballs with them. Really, not a not a fan, not a fan. So you're saying you didn't like this episode. I'm saying I did

not like this episode. I'm sorry. I love watching The Gang, but it just was born it was boring to me. Maybe yeah, a little too much class president stuff for me. Oh so that's stuff I didn't that. I didn't mind that. It was the coffeehouse that was the boring part for me. Yeah. It just was really weirdly divided and it felt like

a different show this week. It felt off point right. Yeah, well the stuff at school honestly didn't bother me either, since like the president, Brandon running for president and I don't know, I did not like Kelly in this episode at all. I felt like, who is this character that I'm playing? Who are the words are saying? She was just like conniving and manipulative, and yeah, she was the first lady she was she was she should be the president. I guess she should have run for president herself. I

liked it though. We got a first taste of what you and Brandon would be like as a team. I like that as an alady, Like, yeah, this was the first episode that Brenda, No, Kelly and Brandon worked together more closely. Brenda was off on her own. I don't even know what the heck where did she go? What? What? What got into her? She got like a bee in her bonnet or something. Isn't that the expert to be in her? But I don't know. She just didn't want to be a part of the group anymore. She didn't

want to live at home anymore. She didn't want to do anything but hang out with the coffeehouse people. Oh man, but Kelly and Donna did did your this is true, Brandon. Yeah, well that happened to but I forgot about that, right. So they were supposed to go out to the club, and but they did. They went with her to the comedy club the first time, and Kelly was a bitch or rooney. She was like, it's not funny and the coffee is toxic. She was so rude. I hated her.

I hated myself. Yeah, Brenda, Brenda, she found a new family. Think like stand up comedy, why why that? And on a couch and no offense, no offense to the writers whatsoever. We're just you know, talking here as viewers and fans of the show. Um. But I didn't think any of the comedy was funny either. Like I didn't have a chuckle at all. Wasn't that the whole point of going to a comedy club is to have a laugh, And I didn't have any. Yes, maybe it was funny back then.

Maybe that was like the thing like to be cool and artsy. And I think coffee house and deliver comedy that's not really comedy, but like it's more like yeah, yeah, the guy that the well First of all, the Sky was the first comedian that you kind of get to see she's laying on the couch, which was kind of weird that, you know, I've never seen a comedian lay on the couch and do a set. But okay, um, but she was great. I felt like, you know, that

was Carrie Hamilton's played that role. And you guys know who Carrie Hamilton's was. She was the daughter of Carol Burnett m hm, who's just like a comedy you know icon. And I thought she was great. I thought she did a really good job and she just didn't have enough

to do. Yeah. I felt like she remember watching that when we filmed it, me too and being kind of like, oh my gosh, she's so lover and she looks a lot like her mom, and it just what there was like a whole vibe about her that was really cool. Was that a set or was that actually a club? You guys want to I feel like, do you feel like that was the peach Pit after Dark? Before the peach Pit after Dark existed? I totally feel you're right,

yes it was. I feel like that was like the warehouse sext door to the jail sales where we lived. And the at first they made it be uh, this weird. They had They probably used it for a bunch of different sets, but just felt like that same space layout kind of as the peach after Dark there you go unt like that recap fans, there's a little easter egg, huh. And maybe the coffeehouse comedy situation was intended to be

our new hangout or something. Maybe it was gonna be more so because they went to great you know, trouble and expense to build that set out. But it was pretty you know, there was a lot there and then it didn't work, so they moved on to something else. Well, it could have been our central perk. Who knew? It could have been our peach pit after dark. Good thing

it wasn't, but then it was. But I did feel bad a little bit for Brenda, like she just felt sort of ostracized and not really in the groove with everybody, and to have her friends flat lever like that for her brother was kind of like a minute Brandon was going to be running for class president. It instantly made him hotter in a weird way, especially Kelly to me and yeah, but it's just like like in one scene, I think Donna's like kissing him in the kitchen and

You're like rubbing up on him. Tory. Yeah, you walk right up to branded and plant your lips. They're big, juicy lips right on his cheek, and then like kind of like in slow mode too. Yeah. Wow. I mean his little suit jackets looked good in this episode. The whole thing going on, he did. He looked good. He came out hot though. He came out of the gate hot with with Andrea at school, even discussing running for president.

And he was like, you know this, poor Andre. He's up and down with her, back and forth, like I'm into you, I'm flirting with you know, we're just friends. Like every episode, I feel like they have a different thing going, and this one he was really flirty with her in the very beginning. But then she was not happy that Kelly was going to be part of the campaign. That that burst her bubble just a dad a little bit little l Yeah, and you came with your clipper clipboard,

and I was I was prepared. I had my lookboard, my vision board prepared. I don't know what was written on that clipboard when I was carrying around, but it must have been really good stuff. He just probably had a bunch of like curly cues and hearts and yeah, rainbows and unicorns probably, but Kelly's. Kelly's whole vision was for Brandon to just be hot and look hot and then people would vote for him. I mean it kind of makes sense. It was the nineties, like not a

bad tactile move. Then Andre is like, Crill, what do you know about politics? What do you even know? I was thinking, she don't know nothing. She knows about fashion politics, pulling up old people that were running for politics, and like she knew how to create the image the man. She's the word behind the man. That there's always the woman behind the man, right that That's what they say, at least behind every good man is a great woman.

But I think we could flip that and say behind every good woman is a another great woman, or maybe another great woman, but it could be a great man. You know, did you guys see how do you feel about Brandon's video campaign? Like his I guess David cut that together sexy. I just it was just odd how what we saw the video content was actually clips from

the beginning of the show. So I was just curious how David Silver get his hands in Aaron Spelling's vault of video footage how do you have access to that stuff to make that David Silver, he can get in touch with anyone. Happened Debbie Gibson. But it was a little weird his video that it was like the opening credits of the show. Well, I had to work with what we had. Brenda seemed like, you know, I don't know. I don't want to say gullible. I guess that's not

the right word. Maybe the word is um impressionable. She's very impressionable, and and that's okay. Like she's young, she's trying to figure herself out, and she's trying to decide what fits for her, and I guess this was just another thing she was sort of checking out to see if this made her feel complete somehow. I like these she tries people. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, this is the time in your life, formative years. Figure it out.

And even that first day at the club, when the comedian was picking on Kelly, she stepped in and stuck up for her right away. I thought that was pretty badass for being like sixteen. I would never do that. Her hair looked really pretty too. I was gonna say that about your hair. I was actually gonna ask you, that's your real hair. If there was extensions in this episode, it looked so full. No, that was my hair. We didn't we didn't wear extensions back then. That wasn't the thing. No,

it wasn't. Never, nobody ever had had extensions. I don't know, would you ever do stand up? Oh wait, wait, sorry, we can't talk about ourselves. We have to just talk about Okay, come on, you totally can. Let's just address that. Okay. So a lot of yours are saying how they feel about the show, which is what we asked for. We asked for you guys to listen and to comment and to give us your you know, opinion and your advice.

And we love that and we're so grateful. And I read it and and I do take the constructive criticism, and we do try to make adjustments to things that work, you know. But there was a whole argument, I guess, I'm not sure where it ended up on what platform, But some people are saying how they love when we chit chat and banter and like go off topic, and some people really don't like it. M h m hmm. I think it was more specific to when we start

the podcast. Some were arguing that they would like it if we just jumped into the episode right away versus having our chit chat at the top of the show. I mean, my thing about that is this is our lives too. Like we're seeing each other for we're on Zoom. We're not together, and fortunately we're all friends. So when we see each other, we want to say hi and like see how everyone's week is. Like it's kind of

that I don't know. And also like our listeners, they feel like our friends, Like you know, I feel like we can talk about anything with with our listeners, the people that love us, and you know, I want to hang out with us for an hour, like I feel, I feel like we're talking to girlfriends. I just want to give you a little appetizer before the entree, exactly right right into the entree. It's not done. So today we did and unnatural, Yeah it did. It felt weird.

I wanted to say hi to you guys, and I couldn't. I was like, okay, here we go on task. This is how I look at it. There are thousands of people that listen to this podcast, okay, and it's growing every single week, and there's just a very very small handful that decided to write a comment on Instagram of those thousands of people that are probably just enjoying it as is, So I would say take it with a grain of salt, but always open. I agree with you.

I just I'm just messing with you, guys, like it doesn't really bother me, and I don't because you know what, everybody has an opinion. Obviously everybody can voice their opinion.

So you know how scared I was to do this podcast with you guys, because yeah, because I was just like I felt all this pressure of like being a fan of the show and trying to like ask the right questions and then of course, like first two or three episodes and people are attacking me like you're not a real super fan, Like like whoa, Okay, I'm there.

There are so many different levels of fans out there, and you're right, maybe I'm not as much of a super fan that you are, but I'm a fan and we it's also been many years and I forget things. Yeah right, well we do. We have some super loyal, very impic fans. You can see it in their eyes, just a super fan. Yeah, I love them. And they they're so helpful informative because they know way more than we do. Yeah, and they never want to be in that category. Don't put me in that category. You guys

are on a whole other level. You are blue Ribbons. I'm just SUPERSI supersis that likes the show, fan of the show, super sis. I love that. But well, whatever, if you like it, listen if you don't, you know, there's another bit of drama if you guys want to address it. Wait, where are we not talking about the show anymore? Is that? Just? Thank god we can it's the campaign, it's the coffee house. I'm I'm over it. Let's go to spoiler spoiler alert. Brandon doesn't end up

winning president. That's the right thing. He's a good We could come back to the episode after any but I did want to bring up something that was, um, I guess in the news about Vanessa Marceill. I just saw that article. Okay, I only saw the article because you guys sent it to me, because how would I have ever seen it. I don't know where was it published, what where did it? Was it an interview or was

it an Instagram live? I'm very confused. It was a video interview published to Instagram on February a video interview by who published to Instagram. But she even she posted it that I don't know. Interesting, Um, so she's saying she's so she's opening up about the show and why she had to leave, saying I was I didn't know she had to leave, Like I didn't know she left the show. No, she's not on it anymore. The show is not on it. I'm aware that she stopped being

on the show. I was not aware that she left the show. What are you trying to say? Misspelling? I just don't remember that character going on. I think it was, but you know what, maybe I remember wrong. Rarely, I'm not even sure what season it was. That it's all a blur, all the all the season's blend together. So we haven't gotten to those episodes yet. The character we're talking about is Gina. She played my my cousin, Donna's cousin. Okay, see, I don't know because I haven't watched it. So well,

apparently you gave her some really great advice. This is what's crazy is that she really vividly recalls something I said to her, which is interesting because what you she claims you say said, what she claims that you said, I can't picture you ever saying that that doesn't sound

like something you would even say. That seems like me now, something I would say now because it's a very evolved well, I can't imagine young Jenny, you know, off that being so presumptive or bold to say like, I know what's what you should do? Do you want to do? You want to say? What it? What she said? You said, I gotta find it. I gotta find it while you're finding it. I'm I'm gonna go on record. I hung out with Vanessa a lot. She was she was always

great to me, always very nice, very professional. I don't remember her having a bad time or a hard go at it or even presenting problems like. She was very well liked. She's the type of girl that has no

problem fitting in anywhere she's she's very confidentality. But this, this article or whatever video whatever it was, made, it seemed like she really had a bad experience on the show and that everyone was super catty, and that she said that the cattiness side swiped her, which I didn't really know what that meant, Like who was being catty? I wasn't clear on That doesn't really matter, but just like maybe it was just the energy or the there

was a lot of female cast members. I don't know. Well, at that point there were only three other female cast members left. It was you, me and Lindsay. Hmm, okay, well that downtown. Well maybe the boys were Caddie. You don't know. And was she wait? Was she in her? Okay? Was was Vanessa at that time in a relationship with Brian Green? Or was was that before after her relationship with Brian happened right after after she was on the show. Yes, they met on the show, and remember he liked her,

but she didn't like him back. And then after the show ended they started going out. Well that's nice. I'm glad that there was a love match there and they made She's a Beautiful Baby together. She's saying that Jenny Garth took her aside on set one day to make a suggestion. She said, maybe it would help if you didn't walk around like somebody who isn't liked me. Here's the thing that I could say that two ways. Here's here's one way. Okay, maybe I was gonna act it

out for you. Here's what Maybe it would help if you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked. Okay, young Jenny maybe said it that way, or maybe young Jenny was wise beyond her years and said, maybe it would help if you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked you know what. Neither of those sound good, and neither of those sound like you. Now, I'm gonna go on record that you didn't say that, because I know you weren't there. I was there apparently, but I don't know

the whole thing. Here's the thing, no matter how she phrases it, it has a negative connotation to it. Someone who's not like. It sounds like you're saying someone who's not liked like. It's already negative from start to finish. Anyway you say that, and I I just don't that was never First of all, you and Vanessa weren't that close, Like, we didn't really work together that much. Did my cousin. I worked a lot with her. I don't remember you

guys having that many interactions. So I don't believe that you would take it upon yourself to be like, here's why you're acting like someone who's not like. So that's why you're going to be not liked, like, I don't know whatever, However, it was meant, and however it was taken. It is good advice. It is sound advice if you think about it, because we do walk around sometimes thinking everything is about us, and we do walk around taking

everything everyone says personally. And that for me as a grown woman, has been a huge thing to learn and a huge thing to start practicing, because especially in our business and and in our what we do and what we've done since we were so young, it's always about are we good enough? Do people like us? Am I what they want right in this moment? And and there's always been this energy of a creative I mean not a creative, but a competitive environment amongst especially women, and

that has shifted now in a beautiful way. Um and now you know, the messaging is much different and women are allowed, somehow in a different way to support each other and be each other's cheerleaders. And I just feel like that's why I said it sounds like something I would say now rather than as a young person, because I, I mean, it's a good message. I don't know. I just wish we could have an opportunity to go back and talk to I mean, let's get in our time.

I said something now, Vanessa Marcela is saying something. I would love the opportunity to go back and be like, how did you it, Here's how we saw it, and then talk it out, because the truth is somewhere in the middle, like we were all young finding our ways. Who knows what truly transpired or what each of us were feeling. From my perception, Vanessa was a kick ass girl, like she came in, competent, beautiful, good actress, professional, always

showed up. Um. I don't remember her having a bad time, but I don't know what was going on inside. Maybe she didn't divulge that. Yeah, And like I mean, I think to her point from what I sort of gleamed from the article, she was saying that she was in a bad place in her personal life, in her development, Like she was in that place where she took everything too personally and she was too affected by all the things around her, not just this situation, but many many things.

Like you know, on any given day, our brains are like and our minds just go in a million different directions. And if we let our minds sort of like rule the roost and and and lead us down, every path that wants to lead is down. It's exhausting and it's it's an emotional roller coaster. So I think that she was kind of talking about how now she's learned that not everything needs to be taken personally. I mean, it's

one of the four agreements. If you guys have read that book, which is a right book, you should read it. I need to reread it. Yeah, it's like one of the four agreements. Don't take anything personally because it's not about you. I have a I have a friend, and um a doctor, a friend of mine, doctor Amon, who he has this theory and I'm gonna get the numbers wrong, but it's like eighteen forty sixty or something like that. When you're eighteen, you think about you, think everything is

about you. You think everybody's talking about you. When you're forty, you don't care if anybody's talking about you, and when you're sixty you realize nobody was ever talking about you. It's really really good. It's good, right, it is on that note, let's take a break and come back, And it looked like Tor was about to say something, so hold that, thought, Tor, we'll come back and retrial the episode.

Hey guys, we're back. So I'm still feeling a wettle fired up about this Vanessa situation because we were friends. I felt like I felt like we all got along well. So I think we should have her on the show and kind of talk her through her experience. I want to hear honestly what her experience was like me too, Yeah, I would love that opportunity to to see what what she meant by her comment. And you know, I remember Vanessa was always very spiritual and very enlightened, very cool

like girl. So I wanted to love growth. Let's all let's all grow if the Yeah, let's if let's all grow through something. I don't know, it would be fun. Let's do it. Praise Vanessa, come on the show. Any who? Should we talk more about the episode? Yeah, I love it that you hated this. A few more eyelashes out and stabbed my eyeballs, Okay, go on. I know it wasn't my favorite episode either. You know what takeaway that I got from this episode was the way that Brenda

and Kelly fight or are you? It was like a very it was almost a very like classy way of just like bickering at each other throughout the episode until you finally have your blowout. Your you blow up at the very end. I know, when did they start fighting?

When did that happens? Like you almost don't notice it, but it was just like yeah, then all of a sudden, like you guys were at the lockers and like it was going going back and forth, and then Kelly made a comment about her costume that she was weary friend to take off that costume. Yeah, I mean see, I said Kelly is a bitch. In this episode, Kelly had her moments of bitchiness, but yeah, throughout the season. I mean that's what you hired me to do. I was

just doing my job. I don't know why you're surprised when you see yourself up in a bitchy episode. It's like that was kind of your character. I know, I know, I know my fittest people. Um hold on, But you're right. I did notice like Brendan Kelly were a little caddy

to each other and like right, like I didn't know why. Oh, now, all of a sudden, she needed an antagonist, and I guess that they decided it would be Kelly in this episode with the bill write it in, Well, I think that's also because you did she just keep saying you like I get it. It was a character. It's very confusing, I know, but I think it's because I'm sorry because Kelly digits are for her brother, her twin brother, Brandon, and I feel like there's some hurt there. Then let's

talk about that. Yeah, but they're not gonna talk about it. How about when Brenda just moves out mom and there's no there's no discussion with mom and dad. Just all of a sudden, Brandon's using her room as his campaign headquarters and mom and dad are and they're making buttons or whatever they're doing. I actually rewound it because I thought I missed something. I was like, why was that allowed? Yeah, in what world do you just let your sixteen year

old daughter kind of move out? But then they explain it was just supposed to be for three days. It was like a trial thing. But even still, that's weird. I don't know. Jim and Cindy, I questioned that that

it's a very convenient Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And then she goes to watch Sky's apartment and feed her fish, and then we never see Sky again, but we see Jack again the comedy, the super super funny not guy comedian, And then I thought, oh, No, is there going to be like a love thing with him because he's an older man? And then and then up randomly. Maybe he's gonna keep being the Maybe there's gonna be a love thing. I don't know. They're gonna make spaghetti out of a can.

It would be with no and not even warm it up. You know, I have politics and stand up comedy. Oh my gosh, you guys getting into the next episode. I can't what a combo? Right? You know the icon for Amazon Prime when I watched it was YouTube in your matching campaign outfits. That was the icon for this episode. What, Yeah, that's funny. The thumbnail whatever you call it, I call it a thumbnail, Like is that just when it's like the little picture. It's a weird word expression. I don't know.

I wasn't even into the fashion. This episode was weird, Like it's just like everything just like I don't know what was happening. I liked Brenda's costume. I like that she was wearing. Maybe not the hat, but I love the dress. Yeah, Donna and Kelly were sporting the blazers a lot. They were trying to look real professional, not even like colorful. You had a long red coat, but I don't know. You had a daisy on your butt of your shorts. I noticed, Yeah, with that white crop top.

That was fun. Yeah, it was just h It's a real bumber. You guys weren't able to keep the clothes from every episode. It makes no sense to me. Where did you go? They auctioned it off. There was a big auction. I think after the show they the wardrobe off. I feel like, yes, oh, I wish I would have gone to the auction. I know I would have put one of my own pieces, and now I have nothing. Great. Thanks, that's so crazy. You would think you you would have first DIBs. I know, were why when we can at

least you know a flyer about the auction flyer. I'm telling you Iron has pieces, like he kept certain words. He has pieces because remember when we when we did B eight nine or two and O, like afterwards they were like selling off like you could buy like a discounted a discount of price from the wardrobe, and it was like, guys, be smart about this. We need to buy these pieces because you want to have this in

your arsenal for yours. I don't have I don't have an arsenal we'd love to meet him too, and I maybe have him on this show hasn't worked out. I feel like everyone, you guys bring him up the most iron because you love him. I know where the hell is iron searing. He's like the big brother you always wanted. Pretty much, we all love him, love him, he's loved. Why do you say that? Why do we say we

love him? Why do you say he's like the big brother you always wanted because you could go to him for advice or he made you laugh or he always made us laugh first of all, Like, yeah, he's foremost hysterical, but he's also just a good guy. And like he's he's accessible, he's available, Like when you talk to him, you feel like he's listening. And yeah, you know you feel as you feel like you're connected with him. When you're with him, it's nice, kind and loving, nurturing. Yeah,

and such a great dad. Now, Like, oh my god, when I see the pictures of his little girls in their cute little family, like his girl time with his kid, it's like it makes me so happy because I know those girls are laughing their asses off all the time, Like I know that they love their dad. They're like dad is so much fun. And that makes me really happy for not just those kids, but for him because I know it makes him happy to make them happy. So yeah, come on the show. Jeez, another invitation? Is

that not a good invitation? Send him that clip and this is how much we talk about you on the podcast all the time. Please come on. Maybe if we stopped talking about him, then he would get mad and then he would come Onlogy, I like that. I like that. Oh boy, oh boy, we had um. Yeah, it wasn't a good fashion episode, but there was some good one liners m sprinkled throughout, some really great lines. What was your your feve? I really liked Have you ever felt

like a phone call that's been disconnected? Brenda wash all the time? Would you guys like my line? Uh? My line was from um Andrea Zuckerman. She said it's perfect. No one knows you well enough to hate you, and I thought, Wow, she's right. That's a good place to sit. No one knows you well enough to hate you. We're screwed because people know us too well. They get to

love us or hate us. What about you? Sis? Um, I have to So this one's from Brenda and it was to your parents, says you raised me so well, I'm ahead of myself. That's confusing, I know, but it's such a teenage thing to say to your parents. Yeah. And then this one is funny. Um it's from Kelly and she says the photo places closed soon when you were taking pictures of Brandon for the campaign. She mentions that she has to take it to the photo place

to have the pictures developed. And it was just more like remember those whipper snappers out there probably don't remember when you had to actually rewind your camera, the film, actual film in your camera and take it, put it in a little envelope, remember, and fill out the form. Now we get the best though, because sometimes like it wasn't instant gratification, you had to wait a week and like if you had gone to a party or been doing something you would get the phos photos back. Did

you ever get photos back? You're like, WHOA, I didn't remember that happening. Ye show your Night on Old You're like, oh my gosh. And then one hour photo came out and the world changed for an instant. In an instant, we could get our pictures in one hour. I guess you didn't really take as many like lame photos. Then you you were more specific about what you were taking pictures of. You didn't take a picture of your salad Y had for lunch, or like right now, or the

same photo fifty of the same photo exactly. Oh my gosh. I try to do that sometimes, to go back to that mentality of just taking like the one photo, and it's it's impossible, because why yeah, And sometimes if I have like extra time on my hands, I'll go through my camera roll and take all the bad ones and delete them and just try to narrow it down to the like winner. It's endless though, it's impossible. Um. We

have a few emails from some listeners. Um, I think we should take a break, okay and come back with those Let's do it all right, ladies. A couple of questions. Um. This one is from Pomona Underscore Mama. She says, I recently came across the pod loving it. We have a fan that's happy. Guys. I watched Nino two religiously for the first few years and then off and on towards the end, after the college years. Where would each character

be ine? Oh wow, that's a good question. You have to really like give that some thought though, Yeah, take your time, heavy one, Okay, I'll just I'll go first with let's pick a character. I'm gonna go easy, and I'm gonna say Steve Sanders is now all grows up and he owns uh a like a customizing shop for um fancy corvettes. He owns like he owns like a chain of like Sanders sand I don't know, Sanders Automotives or something like where he would be so mad at you wait, I can step in here on that one.

So years ago, Ian and I were at a fan convention and they asked him that, and he said that I'm not going to quote it verbat him that Steve Sanders owned was a very huge, like big international, like entrepreneur speaker. He owned his own island, kind of like um Jo Brand Sampson Richard Brampson. That's where Iron said Steve was, and that he was single. That sounds fun, Yeah right, good for have much better than an automotive dealer. I'm surprised. I thought, when you said you're gonna go

with easy, we're gonna go with your own character. Yeah, I know that's hard. That one's harder for me to pin her down. I mean another easy one would be Andrea. I think Andrea has gone on to become the first female president of sag Aftra and she plans to run for president of the United States. In's I like that one. It's actually real life. Only she would run for president. Would be so amazing. I could see it happening. Will Smith just announced he wants to run for office. It's

like jump on the free for all. Yeah, it's a free for all. M hmm. What about Donna? I feel you know me, I'm gonna be sappy and be like David and Donna are still married. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we like that storyline in Love and a Ton of Kids. I do hope that Donna is still like isn't a fashion though, because that was really important to her. So I hope she has a fashion line or does something styling or something that would make her happy in the

fashion world. I feel like Donna still keeps it very interesting in the bedroom for David as well what I think she does and all the marriage she works at it. Yeah, America's most famous virgin is now into B D s M. Probably not that extreme, but yeah, I kind of want Kelly and Donna to have gone off to New York City and be living together still like sex in the city, like parallel universe. Damn it, we should have done that. Yeah, I like that idea. Kelly and Donna take Manhattan? Is

it still? Is it too late? No? I'm pretty sure Manhattan's already been taken. M hmm. Okay, who else is there? Brekendon? Where's Brandon Walsh? Oh my gosh, this is hard, This is too hard. Brandon Brandon? Well, maybe he moved back to Minnesota and he runs a cattle farm. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. He's a farmer now, who knows. He wanted to be a politician. He wanted to be in politics. Right later in the series, I think he ends up

branding for president too against Andrea. I could see Brandon after all coming back to his like stomping ground and being a school teacher. Oh really, he'd be a favorite school teacher. Kids would like him. And where's Brenda? Where's Brenda? Now? She's still in London. Yeah, she's in Europe somewhere where she's married and has kids and runs like a theater. Cool. I like it. Yeah, good one, because everyone well, yeah, that's everyone. Well, David we didn't go. He's just still

married to Donna. What is he doing still? Is he's producing some some beats? What's he doing? Yeah, that's not too far off. Yeah, he's producing for like jay Z and uh Brianna. Now go oh they all came out on top. I love it. Look at that. He still didn't do Kelly. Yeah, Kelly definitely moved to New York and um, she's it's in some high powered position as a running a women's equality empire or something. I don't know, something about women's rights or women being strong. I think

that she would really be a voice for women. I like that me too. Al Right, next question, and Jordan's is asking. Through ten seasons of the show, we saw a lot of cast come and go, including main characters, but Jenny and Torrey stayed the whole time. Was there ever a time during the show where you wanted to call it quits or at least take a break for a season or two? On my part, no, because I remember people saying you would hear about Remember Luke was all up in arms that time. That was who was

it the quit the guy on n Why Pete Blue? No, the redhead the guy? Remember David Cruso. Luke was so up in arms. He's like, this guy has a great career, he's doing this and then he just quit and he's like he doesn't know how lucky he is. Remember that, and he reached out to him. He did. He did did chastise him for making his own choices. I think so, or maybe he was happy you made I don't know, but I remember it. The message got across from to me that was like when you have a gift handed

to you, you don't on it. Basically like we had a gift and it was a great show and it made us want to stay. I mean, there wasn't a time, you know, ten years is a long time. I don't think there was ever a time where I hate it going to work like I loved. There were you know, there's often on days with everyone in every field you're in, but there was never a day where I was like, oh, I don't want to do this anymore. Like I really loved being with my family every day. Yeah, I can

second that. Actually I I loved that job and I knew I don't think I ever felt like I ever took it for granted because I knew that I was really lucky to be there, and I knew that I was being given an opportunity that a lot of people hadn't been given, and I didn't take that for granted. And also like we got to grow up there in a kind of a bubble, which was really cool and

in some ways. And then you know, I got to have a baby on that show and be pregnant and have a child and bring my child to work every day. So I was never like chomping to leave. No, was there ever a time, like maybe season six or seven that like, were the ratings ever bad or were they always solid and always good and you guys felt secure in that sense? I think they were always good. I don't I think, you know, with any show, there is a decline as it goes on. It's just the inevitable

evolution of it. But um, I don't think the ratings were ever bad. I know we all talked periodically about we wanted to end before quote unquote jumps the Shark. Will have a different perception when each show jumps shark. Mm hmm. It's just saying like, when it's like, but what was that was that season ten then? Or do you think it could have gone on to maybe up to fifteen seasons. I think we wanted it to end before it jumped the shark, and we felt like it

was appropriate. But looking back now, that was a damn good job. We should have stayed for fifteen seasons. I'm just saying, I know, Yeah, I feel like it was a decision that I don't know who made the decision exactly, but it was a little hasty. Yeah. So you guys went into season ten knowing that was last season or you were told within that season, right, I don't remember.

I don't remember, Yeah, but I know we were. It was like devastating, even though we knew about it and we were prepared for it and we were working towards it to like have this completion the tenth episode, but the season I feel like it was still really hard for us to all wrap our heads around. Mhm. Imagine And what about like the next day when you just didn't have to come to work. It was weird. It was fun because it felt like summer break for a moment,

and then all of a sudden it just wasn't. And then it was like a whole chapter of your life which is done. That was the most startling part, Like when it was all over, Like after you sat in

that for like a month, you're like whoa. But the the lucky part for us is like now I realize it more than ever, Like now we can we can go back and watch a decade of our lives on camera and fill in all the blanks and fill in all the spaces and remember so much of it and see it all so vividly because of the show, And it's like forever, you know, in history. I like that. Not many people can say they have that, and we do.

And luckily with this podcast, we're just in the first season, so there's so much we need to do it all over again. And uh huh um. The next episode is episode eighteen and it's called It's only a Test. There's no politics in it, right, I don't know if there might be a test. She's not gonna like that either. Alright, guys, have a great week. We love you, I love you. Wh