It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Hey n t O. M Jeers. We are back finally, Yes with a recap. Who No, it feels so long. It's been a second. We had some scheduling issues, very very sorry for you know, but we did our best. So thanks for a baron with us. This is a doozy. We gotta jump right in. Uh this is season four, you guys, Episode seventeen, Thicker Than Water aired January twelfth, nineteen ninety four.
That sounds dirty, okay? Synopsis. Donna stands up to David and heads off to Big Bear, where a handsome stranger wants to get cozy. David dives deeper into drugs and causes panic in the family. Dylan confronts Suzanne after the intel he received from Jim Walsh, and Andrea finds out her life is about to change forever. Directed by Michael Laying, written by Lana Freestat Melman. Was she married to one of our directors directors Jeff Melman. Jeff Melman. I'm curious,
and I'm sure probably yes, because you know Melman. Yeah, well, or it could be his sister. We don't know. Yeah, mom aunt who knows. All right, let's just bust into this because I want to talk about the biggest OMG moment, which was at the end one Andrea is pregnant. You guys, they've announced it, shocking now, but I still was like, oh my god, I don't know why, but I knew it was coming. She's been hiding it for weeks. She's having a baby. It's not the flu people, Nope, nope.
What did you guys think of that storyline at the time? Do you remember? Nope? Come on, I just remember thinking, oh my gosh, well it just worked because we knew she was really pregnant. Yeah, at this time, back in the nineties, did you know Shannon was leaving the show? No? No, I don't think so. Okay, so it wasn't quite there yet. We're about halfway through the season and you didn't know, obviously because Gabrielle doesn't leave for a while. But did it?
Did you worry? Like, is she gonna leave? Is who's gonna leave Gabrielle? Why would we because she's because I don't know, I didn't know any better at that age. I don't remember at that time ever thinking like, oh could this is what happens, like if actresses get pregnant, do they write them out? Did they leave? Like, do
they knock them back? I was young, you're just babies. Yeah, yeah, I think I was just like, oh cool, Well, Gab getting pregnant on the show is the first time I really realized, oh my gosh, we can get we can have children, like our lives can be normal, and we can still film this show. Because we watched her life, you know, expand into family and motherhood and like still
be able to play Andrea. It was a really interesting And do you remember if they thought about not writing it in because obviously she's been pregnant for a bit of time, right, so it's like you didn't have to write you didn't have to at this point, she's carrying flowers and big you know, she's pregnant for months. We've seen it, so they didn't need to. I wonder if they just thought, you know, we should ask Gab, we should ask Gab because I'm gonna guess that that was
a Gab. She wanted it, yeah show. Yeah, yeah, I'm guessing it was a conversation with my dad and she said, let's write in. It's a good storyline. It is a great storyline, but ultimately did ultimately separate her more because she was married with a kid and we were all college and going. So I wonder if she would have stayed all ten years. She would have stayed, but it was it would have been hard to keep the group together.
Storyline one w'd been cool. Yeah, but I thought it was really responsible storytelling that she went to the doctor and she was going to get her blood tested and she requested to have an HIV test done, which at the time you had to ask for that, you had to go and seek that test. So I thought that was a cool message to send everyone. It was very Yeah, it was very of the time, but progressive. I don't thought it was forward thinking kind of. Yeah, all right,
well that's that with that story. Let's talk about David. Let's talk about David and Donna. Ah, he's such a god opens It's like Doormatt Martin like, oh before that when he's like, okay, wait, hold on, I have to show you guys something. I'm watching this show. And during that scene with David and the Howard his drug dealer slash boss man the radio, wait, we need to get him on the show. We are well you should. I'm watching it and I'm wondering, why are they such close talking?
Why does David get There's so many things wrong. There's so many things wrong. I literally thought they were going to start making out, like they were this close to each other talking, and I'm thinking, that's gotta be awkward. Is that because of the camera really close to each other? But that from a breath standpoint, that would freak me out. I'd like, right, yeah, close, give me some snow my acting space, please, I'm sick of this crap. Oh thank god.
He hits rock bottom in this episode and it's gonna be over. It's gotta be over soon. God, he almost lost his freaking sister alost he did, he did, And it's like now he's gone from from meth to wanting the pills and it's just like home. And then he goes to the dad's office. He goes to the to the the his dad's office deal pill. What he's like looking for? I thought, is he trying to get novocane?
What's he looking for? It was cool angles though, like it was like on it's so close, so god, um, I thought he was really great in this episode though, Yes, like yes, yes, I thought maybe he should have maybe gotten a manicure before those extreme close ups on his hands with the pills. But whatever, Wait, what did you see? Boy? You would be looking at his nails a little I was trying to find out. Then you were looking at Brian's a nail biter, a notorious nail biter. You use
your own hands for those shots. They would never bring in like a hand of a lot of times sometimes though, when you when we were rushed to be somewhere else, they would say, oh, let's let's have barbed the prop lady. Um wait, I have a question. So in total, can you just remind me how long has he had this drugs? Drug addiction is three episodes, So for two weeks he went from here never doing anything to here and now boom, we hit rock bottom in two weeks. Math to pills
also very strange. It's called the nine O two N O story arc pattern. It's very popular. People have copied it was their report where he kind of punches a wall too. I wrote down he punches a wall and like TV people always do that much. It's such a thing that who does that in real life? At punch we know some people, Yeah, we do once in a blue and I'll throw a pillow if I'm like, that's
your expression of anger. Yeah, well, I wonder when the last time you had a good, like outburst of anger where you did something like so punch a wall or something so long. I think I maybe slammed a door once, like, oh, yeah, the door slams. Yeah, slapped the door last night. That happens a lot. I did. It was a long weekend. I got in, I slammed a door and then went in and bit started me I probably five years, maybe
four years. Oh, it's so childish, so stupid. And then I'm after you slammed the door, and You're like, oh, I hope the door's okay? Did I Did I mess it up? Now that I own a home and never slam a door, I threw my phone at my husband, What did you? Yeah? He actually just reminded me of it a few nights ago. We were watching DV and he's like, I remember that time, and you threw your phone at my head in the bathroom. I don't know. I was just even. I was just throwing and his
head was in the way. It didn't hit him. I don't have a lot of hang, I've worked through it a lot in therapy. Thank you, good for you. Good. Also, I think because I'm watching it on Paramount Plus, I got extra terrible music a paramount. Okay, here's the thing. I've got to change my paramount at that Paramount plus account because I'm I don't have the fancy one. I guess my like kids got it for me. I have the basic one. So every few minutes it's like, I'm like,
oh no, that's not good. We could maybe convince I heard to upgrade us. Okay, So Donna is the door mattiest ever in the beginning of this in your ski boots? What about David? Is that you know it's Saddam Hussein? Like what, Oh my god, why do you say that? That was I don't know, but like my heart dropped. I was like, yeah it now in twenty twenty three, I'm like, wait, can you see that? Yeah, And it's
just weird. I didn't even And then also didn't David say something like have a good TI didn't think about me, like what he's so mean? At least she gets a little riled up and was like, I don't want to even see your face. So I was like okay finally, Oh god, get together? Isn't You're consumed? And I would have jumped out of that room in those ski boots like a pro. He said he wanted a girlfriend capable
of a mature relationship. I'm like, you're you're mature, Yeah, idiot, I have a great idea when I am ready to have sex, which is going to be with you in about four seasons. A spoiler. Also, his headphones were epic. They should have had that at the merch booth at nineties Cone because his headphones were like amazing, they were Did you sign that hair dryer? Yeah? I signed a hairdryer?
Was there a nineties hair dryer? Hair dryer? And apparently they just got it a few weeks ago on eBay and I'm like, whoa, we need to get some merch and you go, a bobblehead. We should not be talking about the con We've already talked about this, But did you you can? We'll let it live. Oh my god. Okay, So there's this thing like funk a pop. Yeah I don't.
The babble had funk popsy for everything. And the big thing now is like nineties all the boy bands, all the TV shows of the nineties except nine to two, and I was like, that's weird. Why wouldn't we have one? So when I saw her approaching, I was like, they finally didn't She's like, no, I didn't wait for them. I made my eat it. It was amazing to anyways, sorry, um David when he when he falls asleep on the
bench and loses the kid. Then they go and they find well, first, what about the old lady at the park? Remember with Aaron? She was like, yeah, I want to have a cookie. That was a little creepy she wanted to give her Like, yeah, lady, can't you take a cookie in that situation, Kelly, I would never have it. I don't ever take stranger food. Stranger food, you don't know. You don't write sweet cree Go back though for a second it I did Mike tear up a little bit
when in the scene with Kelly. I thought Kelly was so great to David. Oh no, this is after, isn't it. That's okay, we'll jump around today. Is it after before? No? It's no, I'm right, it's before. Because he says, let's go take our favorite toddler out. She says, are you on drugs? And the way the way she said it was very like I felt the relationship that these people are really close and writing goes beyond this. These are two people who are friends and family and that I
felt that in the moment. I felt it in the scene and then the hug between the two of you made me cry. Oh yeah, that was a good I like that Pete a lot. If you will indulge me because I want to talk more about that and their scenes together. But if we go and reverse Number one, did you go to Big Bear? No? Did you film this in Bigger disappointing? Okay? Number two? Did anyone notice Brenda with a peanut butter who puts their finger in the peanut butter jar? That was insane? Oh? Was this
in the kitchen? It was eating peanut butter with with like double fingers into the jar. I know a woman that one like, why would they their fingers and stuff? Is that directed? Or is that how Shannon eate peanut butter like and put that back? Nobody else can eat out of that well? Very close to the Walshes. So what did Cindy see this? Sorry I missed this part. Everybody's doing it in front of mom and dad. Yeah, why would Cindy say something? I don't know, but it
was so it was really distracting, it maybe uncomfortable. I was like, even nobody does that. If one of my kids did that, I'd be like, now we have to throw it own peanut butter jar. But like, who has their own peanut butter jar? Or wait, wait, wait, Maybe there's a reason. Maybe Brandon's allergic to nuts so he doesn't eat peanut butter. Maybe the Washes don't like peanut butter. Maybe also they were both in their robes making the snacks. Oh you guys, I don't have my notes, so I'm flying.
That's why. Now thank you so much because someone threw my notes. But um, we must talk about Jim in that robe because you want to know what was underneath. Oh, I don't know. I was just like sexy. Oh, and I think, doesn't Brandon make a joke about the robe? I think? And then I goes like this and like shows the hair. Oh had me at hello, Oh my god,
you're blushing, like she's blushing right now. I loved missus Walls making the snacks and don't forget your grapes, like a lot of she packed like an entire cooler for these kids to go to. I thought it was sad because she was like, first of all, she was like, we should you know, get him, hit him, head up a movie or go to a movie this afternoon. I thought the comeback from him was gonna be like, yeah, go out to a movie. Let's spend them to you know, watch a movie in Weink, get out some Jim and
Cindy bound bound. But no, he's like, I have to go talk to Dylan. I mean he's already in a row. They're ready to go. We had five more minutes. Yeah. Also, there was a joke about funny brownies or funky brownies, which I think brownies. That's what he did. That's why why would she why would missus Walsh have Wooden making a joke about it. Then the other flag on the play that I loved was they good. They're on the phone saying to Donna, will be there in fifteen minutes. Yeah,
you can't get anywhere in fifteen minutes. Getting from Beverly Hills. I thought, it's like, we'll see you in ninety minutes. Listen, I want to tell you right now. I was born and raised in la and around Beverly Hills, and that is what we always said. No matter where you're going in LA, you always hit fifteen growing up. And then I guess the end of the game twenty me I still in my brain is like I can get anywhere in fifteen minutes, and I can't get from my house
to like the Century City mall in fifteen minutes. It's like a town over m Okay. So the kids go to Big Bear, which wasn't really Big Bear, sorry, Amy. It looked like a lodge. It looked like it looks Yeah, dude, did you film that? No clue, I think clue M on set it looked great. And then you meet a haughty little uh ski bunny. Yeah, like, um, he worked at the ski shop. He was fixing the boots. Yeah, some very tight jeans on. He was a cute smooth
Yeah he was smooth too. He was very smooth. You guys made out, Yeah, I wrote, I was like a major makeout. So basically on nine twenty up to date, Like, correct me if I'm wrong, that's the second person I've ever kissed on nine twenty four seasons, right, you're keeping track, Well, I've she's only been with David that's easy. I want to run a tally. That's a good idea. That's a good idea with it ends up in ten seasons being
a lot so started. Now that's a good game. I wonder how I felt at the time, if I was like, oh, he's cute. Oh my god, I'm only had kisses with Brian, Like, I wonder, like how I felt. I can't remember anything. Sorry. I also loved your stirrupski pants. Your whole look was very on fire, the stirrups. Also, the Martins are rich. They've got a house in Big Bearon. It's the nicest house in town. Remember, he says, yeah, I'm nice too. Whatever, my god, and you're gonna soak your tidsties. Ali says,
I have cute feet, do you dooan? The whole thing was sort of cute. It was cute, It wasn't mad at it. And David's such a how do you think he was like the character? He looked like early twenties. You're right, yeah, a little bit older. Just how old is Donna Martin at this time? Nineteen? She is nineteen, Okay, so it's not like he was like some underage me. No, he's not creeposaurus. No, not at all. Okay, So okay,
so let's yeah, let's let's play that through. So so that all kind of happens, and uh, good for Donna. Yeah yeah, get a little little pep and her step when she goes back to deal with David. Yeah, she knew, and she knew what she wanted because you were like, Kelly was oh, not Kelly, pardon me. Brenda was like, let's go back, and she's like, no, I'm good, I don't want to. But then you come and you and you tell him I'm in love with someone else. You're
not ready someone that's treating me terrible. M h. While we're at it, what did we think of Steve's sunburst ski jacket or what I loved? Was loved? That's good. I'm really disappointed. I thought that that would have been maybe on location, Like why why only Jason gets to go to San Francisco? Why couln't you just take a Vanda big Bear? But colle number one on the call sheet, Yeah, Jason was skiing in jeans, wasn't he also? Brandon? Sorry, Brandon was skiing in jeans. People do do it? Yeah,
and we're not right. Good Okay, I mean, okay, let's talk about Dylan. We gotta talk about Dylan and his sister taking his sister's surface starting her period, because that was weird. It was not I've seen it all other shows. It's a stair line that they throw in on shows. It was literally just why did they do that to just make them closer to and to bring Cyndian and the whole thing. And I don't know, it's very like the point of that, I'll get it done without it. Yeah,
I don't know. TV shows write that crap in a lot the period. Yeah, but we do find out that Erica may or may not be Jack's daughter, right, so there's still something going on. Then we find out a little bit more that she's a little sketchy. Sketchy yeah, not Erica, no, the mom right, it's like m sketchy MOA's cute that picture that she showed him of Jack Taylor and her Jack Taylor, Jack Jack Jack Taylor. It's Tailor Kelly. Still, you know, I just worry about Dylan here.
It's like Dylan's falling for all of this and falling in love with the sister, and it's just all not falling in love, but like it's just a lot real fast, a lot of a lot family. He feels that loss of such intense loss of family that anything that's coming his way is like he finally has someone. Like I feel sad for him that he's I love her, but is this realm? Yeah? All right, this is redeeming for Dylan though, to happen right now? Yeah, yeah, he needs it.
He needs it because we were having a little like some moments. Should we talk about the missing Eron? First of all, she's adorable, Little Eron is adorable. Yeah. I was just like when they were in the police station, why wasn't Mel upset? He just didn't seem like worried. They were all a bit calm. But then good action. Jackie brings it, brings it in. Yeah, I love that that scene for her, Yes, she really, Yes, I made a note like she really pulled that off and made
it more real. Yeah, definitely, she saved that scene. And I thought you wouldn't that both Jenny and Brian were good. It didn't feel as as it was sort of ridiculous all of it, but at the same time it felt really okay, this feels there. You did it well because
I believed it. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't believe that they would find her in a house down the street or whatever, like, I mean, yeah, it's nine or two, and now it's sill less to be tied up with a neat bow because we know, sadly that wouldn't have probably been met. Yeah, I mean, or she could have wandered off and been hit by a car. Like it was so risk that. It was so risky even if she's not being kidnapped. It was just like, oh my god, And that is why we watch our kids closely. Yes,
never take your eye off them. And I thought Dave David crying, it was all real, Please don't hate me, help me. I was like, this is good acting. He was great in that. Yeah, both of you. I'm in on all this. Well, we'll see what happens next week. Does he get help or is it just over right? But then what happens to Howard? Yeah yeah, we never see him again? Who knows? All right? So our our our homework for next week's episode, everybody, which is season four,
episode eighteen, Heartbreaker. Oh oh no, So let's all watch it and then talk about it. We got to score the episode? Oh oh oh what do you give it? Oh, geez m, it's tough for you. Okay, Oh, we're all right together. Eight eight seven, Yeah I did. It was a bit of bouncy around me. For me, it was a bouncy around me, like we're going to Big Bear, we're going to Malibi, we're going to this, we're going to that. We're back in the great we're all separated
a little bit, which we never love. We love when we're together. All yeah, but it was good, good fashion, great ski, great ski fashion. Donna looked fab I give good snow, bunny eyebrows. We're getting a little thin, little thin on the eyebrows. But yeah, it's coming and I'm at season four. You're bringing it. Let's see, let's see where it goes. All Right, you guys, have a great week. We love you.
