Hey Mr. D.J. Put a Record On with Zachary Throne

contacts my daily one's stupid move. But let's talk about you. I'm gee good. How has it been thirty? No? Twenty? Now? You were right the first time thirty over thirty years? Jee god, I think the last time I saw you, Jenny was I want to say, nineteen ninety four. Yeah, and me, Tory. I saw you at Jans Jane's addiction show in Las Vegas. Oh my god, I did see you there, Okay, ye, oh my gosh. Yes, I always

counted by babies. I had four babies then, not five? Yes, right was see that was a crazy show that was so fun and they were hanging people by the backs of hugs. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah, it was really nuts. Oh my gosh. Um. Okay, we start about Howard. We've been watching this We're in season four on the podcast. We've been watching it back since the very beginning. And your you play Howard, who was the manager or the head guy right at the DJ for California Universe. You

worked David and Donna worked David. Yeah, but Howard turned into a super shady kind of guy. Yeah, that was a big shift there. Did you know that was going to happen? Did you know your character was drug pusher, drug dealer? Not a clue. I remember when I got the job and my first scene was with tor And and Brian and they had these two dueling monologues and all I had to do was just look back and forth and be abused and then tell them I like

you guys, you got the job. And I thought that's really where the character was just going to sort of be. I was going to be their boss and that was it. And then Brian came to me one day and he said I just got through talking with the producers and I said, oh, how'd it go? And he goes, my storyline is going to be I get addicted to Crystal Mass and I went, that's that's juicy. Yeah, he guys, yes, who gets me addicted? I went, who? He goes you so you found it? Then you're like, well, I guess

I'm not going to be a series regular. Yeah, at a certain point, I'm going to be gone. But so my tenures limited. But yeah, he said, it's just we're gonna start, you know, playing that angle, and you're going to be my dealer and my boss. So I'm okay,

how did you You were okay with it? I mean, oh yeah, I mean I it was I mean, first probably cool, like you probably like were like that sounds cool, like a meteor role, right, definitely, Because there was like the first three or so episodes I did, I just

sort of I was just their boss. I just sat I sat Tory up with her microphone, and then I put her on the late shift and then they got into a fight because she stole So I was just sort of like this guy this, and then all of a sudden I had this agenda, you know where it's like I somehow have Crystal mess on me and Brian new somehow. Yeah, I just don't worry Avid. I have

you taken care of crystal mess. So I just thought, well, this will be fun to play, and then me and Brian will get to have fun every day just doing this whole sort of dark turn and uh yeah it was. It just came out of sin air. Wow. Do you ever think, like in your head, like your head games, what was like Howard's backstory? Yeah, at the time, I did. Um. I thought, well, at the beginning, I thought, Okay, I got this job and I run. I run the radio

station at the college. I'm into music and this station means a lot to me, so I only want to hire the best people. And you guys came on, you had that instant reports. I said, you guys got the job. But then when I became a crystal mess dealer, I went, okay, where do I go from here? Like I don't have a lot of experience dealing crystals. I think it's safe,

so um. But again, yeah, I just thought, well, you know, he understands this lifestyle of you have to do these graveyard shifts and then stay up, so he's just like a season vet. So of course he'll have some kind of potion that'll help you. Well that's where I ran with. I don't know now Originally you did a show called The Heights for my Dad, which was also on Fox, which Jamie Walters was also your co star in it, which he comes next season on two nine two and yeah,

so it was like family. Yeah, and obviously The Heights you were all musicians and real musicians, and that made sense. So I'm sure that's why my dad was like, Okay, this is like a natural. I want to use him again, work with him because I know my dad loved you. I loved your dad. Your dad sent me the sweetest note when I got on nine o two and oh, and he said, welcome back to the family, and I thought that was so sweet. He was so good to me. And in nine o two and oh, especially like we

you're very very funny. And I know this from real life from not only working with you, but being friends with you back in the day, that you're very funny. You have great timing and yeah we didn't get to see a law of that with Howard, but yeah, Crystal math and comedy just yeah, it doesn't go together. You ended up doing I think six episodes, right, yeah, I think it was six. I mean that's a lot for

a guest star. So yeah, do you remember like your first time on the set or like getting the job, like how did you were you a fan of the show before or oh, of course I mean I was. I was. Well, I knew you guys because we did publicity together when I was on The Heights and we would do these junkets and so all of us got to be friends. And Jenny, you and I had the same birthday, and so hey, it's coming up. I know,

are you guys? Oh my god? And Tori you were always so sweet and generous, and you know, you let me sort of hang in your room during the time. I loved hanging out with you. You were the best. I loved hanging out with you two. You're like, my TV's on, just hang out my room, Everything's good, And

I was like, oh, thanks, um. But yeah, I remember getting the getting with and then showing up on my first day and just being terrified because you guys were the biggest show on television and like the whole world watched it, and that was probably the biggest exposure I had at that point. The Heights hat up following, but the song was bigger than the show at that time, so I knew that this was going to be big.

So I just remember calling myself down before I went out and did my first scene with the two of you guys, and then it was just super fun. We're all just friends and family, and then it went like that. I think we did like two takes each of coverage and master and we were done. Then I went home. I was like, this is going to be a blast. Can I ask you one more question about the Heights? I'm so sorry, just because my dad's no longer here, so I can't ask him a question. You know, the

older version of me that's super interested in producing. Why do you think the Heights didn't work? Because I thought it was amazing my younger self, well, like, why not to know why Melore's place? Why not the Heights? Oh clue? I think that. Well. I remember that your father had a definite vision of what he wanted the show to be, which obviously your father knows what works, and I think that some of the people that were writing it and

are creating it they had a different opinion. So there was a lot of We only had thirteen episodes, so there was just push both all through those thirteen weeks, where there were some episodes that really worked well and we would watch them and I mean, well, that was a great episode, and there was an episode that didn't really work well. So the other you know, I mean jointed. Okay, so it's very disjointed, whereas you guys, you guys were just perfect from the beginning all the way to the end.

It was everybody was on the same team. And I think that we suffered from that a lot. My memory now that you're saying that, my memory is coming back, and I'm remembering being in my dad's library and watching dailies and him having arguments over the creative with Fox actually as well. So yeah, I heard a lot of them. Yeah, Okay, that's a bummer, Like can't we all be friends? Yeah, creative differences internally, it's hard, Jen, we don't know anything

about that right now, exactly. I have a great story about your dad tour. I don't know if I ever told you, but when I was auditioning for The Heights and I had I did about six callbacks, and your dad wanted me, and I didn't know that yet. It was down to me and this other kid named Matt. He was at every single audition. Who there's just me and Matt. Matt who Matt Matt Now, yeah exactly, and he was really good, so it narrowed it down to just him and me at Network, and I walked in

and go, oh, hey, man, how's it going. Yeah, so it was like American Idol, like who are you gonna pick? And I went in and your dad had like a cast on. He had either a broken arm or broken wrist or something back then, so it was everybody at network. I was terrified, and your dad signaled me over and leaned in and he goes, listen, when you do your scenes, speak really loud because these guys are all old, not like me and you, and he went and that just

completely melted all the ice. And then I realized that he wanted me and he smiled and I did it and I got it. So I guess that was the sweetest thing I never I don't know, Oh my gosh, I love that He's so sweet. Where's Matt now? Yeah exactly, Darry Matt. So once you've finished nine or two and oh what happened for you next? Oh? Jen has one question about back to nine h two and oh the scene, the scene, the close talk scene. It really bothered her.

So she's gonna ask you about it last week. Last week it was you and David and you were like toe to toe, literally nose to nose, talking this close to each other. I think a screenshot of it because I was so uncomfortable watching it and you were talking about like, you know, him getting more drugs from you or something, and I was like, why are they close talking like that? Why are they talk standing so close to each other? Do you remember that you have shot?

Don't take it right now? Home? Well, don't you have it? No? But I just took a picture. Oh god, whereth it? That's funny. It was like this scene, like right, and he gets even closer than that. Yeah, he was. He was in your space. But all we were like, oh my gosh, like what happens? Do You're like, oh, I can smell your breath or like, god, you're that's uncomfortable. I was waiting if you guys start making out totally right. Yeah. I think they were trying a different angle with the

crystal mass um. Yeah, I don't. There was a couple of times when we were doing that where we were like, why are we this close? Why are we talking this? Why are we why? Because we wanted to shot. Yeah, probably just wanted to get a shot. It was a couple. Yeah, I don't know, so good. It was a good time nineties. It was good, very a lot of Okay, So go back to my question, which was what happened next for you? Like,

once you completed your run on the show. I after nine o twenty, I got a recurring gig on Party of five Nice yeah, which was which was pretty doing pretty well then, And it was. It was similar. It was like a character that started out just being friends with Nev Campbell's character, and then out of nowhere, they said, well, Nev's storyline, her best friend is gonna somehow develop HIV. We're not gonna explain why, but we've decided that you're the actor to portray that. And I went, thank you.

That's pretty awesome because I was only there for six episodes, so um, I did that. And then after a party of fun, wait, which cast did you like better? Ours? Are theirs? Yours? Okay, Okay, you don't have to say that much much. We were friends with all of them too. They were great, but now they were awesome. They were everybody there was really you know. It was it was like this new show that had a lot of energy and everybody was working really hard. But you guys were

like family. I mean we just all hung in Jenny's room was you know, she had music on all the time. She's like, hey, my room, I got records and you know, tapestries, and I'm like cool because I had a guest room with the phone. Wait were you were you there during the black dressing room era? Yeah, my pain in my dress room? Yeah you can. I don't remember that even it was so cute. It had like things on the ceiling like yeah, fabric. H I had a dressing room that was like the drunk tank. It was like a

phone the wall that was it. And Jenny always went just hanging my room. I got music playing all the time, tapestries and Tori's like I got the TV on. Yeah, you had a wall to stare up when she that's when she was dating and married to musicians. That was that face. Yeah yeah I remember. Yeah, you guys were awesome. It was It really felt like, um like, yeah, like we were a family because we've known each other for

a while. Yea, let's go back. Okay sorry, ye no like to those days, and I know I want to go back, but now wouldn't that be great? Like us now? So like it's not like everyone like I feel like nineties everyone, that's that one decade that everyone still like holds onto and keeps coming back to. So maybe we should all just go back to the ninetiest present day into it you reboot our actual lives. Yeah? Yeah, wow, Jen, that was deep. It's on it, I give I think

Jenny should get creative control. Yeah, to share that with my partner there. Okay, so, uh, you just played a show m last night. It was the last night last night at the Whiskey at the Whiskey. Wow, it's okay, So tell us what's going on with music for you? Okay? Well, I live in Las Vegas. I've been there about Wait, I missed that memo. Sorry, Oh did I got I never told you that? No, No, that's why I was at the James Addiction show and there. Yeah, I moved.

I actually moved to Vancouver for five years where we shot The Heights and I worked as an actor and I was also working as a musician, which was my first real passion. And I had to be on set at five thirty in the morning, and I was playing in clubs until two thirty in the morning, and I was like, Bob's got to give because Survivors. So after about five or six shows up in Canada, I just

thought I got to choose something. So I chose music and and I moved back down here, and then I got a gig in Las Vegas doing two or three shows. A friend of mine hooked me up and then that just snowballed. And then from there I started playing with different artists. I played with a bunch of guys in Kiss, recorded them, and then currently I'm playing with Corey Taylor

from Stone Sour and Slipnot So Cool. Yeah, he has a solo band that toured a couple of years ago, right before COVID and we made a record and we just finished our second record, which is probably coming out in September. And we go on the road um April thirtieth to May eleventh, and then we go on the road for two months August October. All are on the country, like both coasts everywhere. Yeah, we got back from we were in England for two weeks, so we just did

a tour of England. Do you work for you when you when you're touring? Like, how do you get from place to place. You guys have buses or yeah, fly, We flied to like one city and then we get on a bus and then we just yeah, we busted all over. That's fine. Do you need to middle age but very hot groupies. Actually, yeah, I'm asking for a friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Actually there's two bunks available for you on this next round. So, oh, bunk bunks? Wait, what does that mean? What does bunk

mean the tour bus? You sleep in bunks? Oh, I don't sleep in a bunk. No, she won't. That won't work for her. She's like, let me here. Oh my gosh, your life sounds so fun. Oh thanks, Jenny. You guys life sounds amazing. I mean this is like you both look exactly the same and wish we have kids. We're driving our kids around. It's not that fun, Zach, really now, well you you hide it well, we'd play it off. We'd probably rather be on your tour bus with you.

We shut these computers and we just go, oh God, what's happening, and then we're like, oh and we're back Hi, we're back on off. Yeah. Yeah. You do so much voice work as well. I do. I was on nickelode for a couple of years doing a lot of animated voice work and I did a couple of commercials and she's the way to go. It really is, dude, It's the greatest job of man, Jenn. We got to do more of that. You guys got to really do that.

I mean that you show up in like your slats and you don't need to go to makeup and you just zack. I'm I'm still wearing my pajamas. See now you could be working right now. Yeah. Yeah, perfect job for me, perfect job. Yeah, that was very what's her name, I'm fifty you guys. When I put my leg up there, I heard totally and me as her friend, I was like, I love that she can still do that. Wait, who was it not Cherio, Terry, Molly Shannon, what was her character? Fifty?

Well take us up on that offer. We're available. So Jen and I did a live tour and that was our rock star moment. We didn't have a bus, so we had a veil, but we wanted one in our in our minds. It was like this rapped tour bus, yeah right right, total and like we were like going backstage, like they had to get us in and out and in like we played like at one point, like three

thousand people were like, oh played, look at me. We were on stage and doing a rewatch and telling stories and nine O two and oh fans um, but I've been playing games. But it was our like we never had that experience, so it was our like rock star moment totally. You guys are rock stars, always were, always will be right. Don't you forget it. Zachary damn straight. He schooled me years ago. Oh so good to catch

up with you. You look great and it sounds like you're just living your best life with your music your first love, which is so cool that you can continue to do that, and you literally look exactly the same. This is wild. Yeah, I'm just I honestly think you guys look exactly the same too. I'm not even I'm not even. I know you have kids and your stress and the whole thing. Like this could be nineteen ninety before and we could be on the set again and

we're like, all twenty eight. Oh my gosh, wait, tell us some fun story that no one would know, a fun story about from back then. Yeah, Like I'm set that, Like you're telling us stuff. Whe were like, oh my god, I don't remember that. Oh my god, tell us, tell us, okay, I have I have a horrifying story. Oh good, good, horrifying. Yeah, this is like every actors. Oh no, um yeah it happened to me. I'm so thrilled. Um. Wait have you told this to the other podcast already? Yeah? Okay, well

but I'll do it better. And so it was. It was the first shot of the day, and it was me and Brian, and Brian was at the the console and it was all these different focus polls and I had to come in on a on a line, knock on the door, open it, hit my mark and say my line, and it was like six and I'm tired, and you know, and I'm just trying to coffee up. Well, they couldn't get this shot right. They wanted to get it all in one shot. So I just kept walking in,

hitting my mark, not saying a word. Probably ten times I forgot my line. You know, you just get into that thing where you just eight doesn't work again. Yeah, So I just was used to and then now I'm thinking about lunch and something else, you know. So I walked in and I wouldn't say anything for a bottle.

Ten times and then on the eleventh time I walked in, I stood on my tape dead silence, and then I went, I'm sorry, I forgot my line and the entire crew went nah and started screaming at me, and I was like and then I and then Brian made fun of me, of course, which around a partition, and I was just like, com blue Ocean, calm down, call, you'll get it. You'll

get it. To get it. So the next take they did, when they finally got it, I walked in and I just robotically just delivered my line because I just didn't screw it up. Yeah, I said, that's it. I'm fired. They're gonna fire me because it was such a long shot. That was such a long time to get that right. And as I was leaving, there was another actor that was playing uh Gabrielle's boyfriend, and I told him my

horror story market that yeah, playing Jesse really sweet. He came in when I leave and he said, dude, I got you beat. He goes. I did twenty eight takes and I had one line and I couldn't remember it, and Diane said, do you want me remember her? Yeah? She goes, acidic tongue she goes, do you want me to tell you what your one line is? So funny? Always with us. Yeah, she was super sarcastic but amazing. She was amazing and she totally but oh my gosh,

don't worry. That was me and Jen every Friday night. Yeah, they I don't know. For some reason, they would always do beach apartment. We'd be like the last seaing of the night. Everyone wanted to go for the weekend, and we would get the giggles because we were together, and the crew would just be like in the week and we just start looking each other and busting up, and they were just like, so, don't worry, come on, okay, wait,

tell us another story. When we're story we're worry about you, guys, Yeah, tell us a story about us? About it? Tell about me? Okay, yeah, yeah, um yeah, enough about you? What do you think of me? You guys are just the sweetest manna not that not that, oh like like stupid stuff. All right. It's nice because you actually have a memory. If you put me like this and asked me to tell a story, I would be like, oh, same, same, same, same, Yeah, well I

only remember the horrifying stuff so far. I don't remember, okay, So tell us something from behind the scenes, behind the scenes, like when we went out or something. Oh my god, really, yeah, there's one night where me and you and Jenny was there and Brian went out in Chicago. We had a press junk hit and in Chicago you went to Chicago. Wasn't me, It wasn't Are you sure, yeph Oh? Now they never let my They never let me travel. My dad would always make some excuse why I couldn't go places. Wait,

san Francisco. Maybe it was San Francisco. It might have been San Francisco because we did like about three This is when I was on the heights and you guys have done this already, and this was my first one. I think, Jenny, you were there? Are you sure I was there? Though I'm almost positive you were there, Toriy, just because it's just I can't imagine doing anything of

publicity and you're not there. Happen. Well, this was my first press junk hit, and you guys were all used to this, so everybody sort of went their separate ways, and Brian's like, I know where we're going, and we had a limo and it was me and a couple of the guys in the Heights and we went to some club that you guys had been to a million times that I had never been to. And the second you walked in, it was like Saturday night fever, Like the whole place parted, you know, and you just came

walking in and you just were just walking in. But everyone's like, oh my god, look who it is. And from that point forward you owned the club. And Brian knew everybody in there, and he goes, can we get drinks? And Toby maguire was there because he was on a new show and this was in Chicago. La sure, I remember it as Chicago, but maybe I'm wrong because because the night took a dark turn. Okay, we remember buying drinks for Toby and he was I think was he

there with Leo? No, he was just there unaccompanied like his mother was like can I trust you? And we're like sure, and we got him hammered. He never drank alcohol before. He just kept getting He couldn't stop giggling, he couldn't talk. He just giggled for hours. And then Brian knew the band, and then we got on stage at jam and then we just kept drinking and then the next thing, I know, we had to be downstairs

at this hotel at like seven am. Nobody slept and I had sunglasses on, and I was just like fielding questions and I never you know, I'd never done this before, but I was just super hungover and I must have looked like a drug addict. But yeah, oh yeah, it was just it was just starting that was cool. I was not there. We were we were so cool. You guys were the coolest. We were cool at the bar, very high. We were fun back then, Jen, You're still

fun fun remember the heyday, Jen? Remember back were not fun anymore. We were just at a nineties con this Ken, and we were like I went out, I went out and I had fun, but you didn't. And then you you were too tired the next night to go out. It just wasn't fun. Oh I know, Oh my gosh, I feel even worse about this. I had such Next time, you're gonna have to bring it next nineties con, Jen, you're gonna be feeding me chicken tenders off a strip

stripping pole because you've never done that. Sounds gross, That sounds gross. Wait, you don't remember that I fed you chicken tenders off a strip pole. I heart Vegas, Lance Bass for real. Oh yeah, that wasn't that long ago. And she was like, came here. Watch we got all wasted. And she goes, come here. Watch when she gets like this, I can make her do this with food. And she goes, come here, come here, And I was up there dancing.

I was like, oh, guys, far hard the videos people don't see what Oh gressfully hopefully we keep them under wraps. Oh my god, okay, we have to look Okay, So next time we're in Vegas, yeah, yes, we're gonna find you. Yeah, well, let's all hang out because I miss you. I miss you too. I miss you guys a lot. We can go. There's stripper poles as chicken tenders is unlimited things to do. We're in all fairness, we're a drag bar. It really wasn't that sexy that. It was like, that's we prefer

that instead. Yeah, I'm down for that. All in all on board. Well, keep doing, keep doing you you're doing great. It's good to see you. Yeah, I can see you too. Happy birthday, Jenny. You can't do a happy birthday sack. Thank you, we love you. I love you guys. Byeee ah that made me miss him. Isn't he an angel? Just a rock role angel. He was always the best. He's in a big band. That's a that's a big band,

Corey Taylor. Yeah, he was always a super talented guy and super funny, like he should have gone on to do comedy, like and it's wild the past and things take. Yeah. Yeah, so if you guys are out there, go see his shows. For sure, we should go. We should go to one. That'd be fun. Okay. We always say we're gonna do this and we don't. Nope, never, let's do it. Hey,