Happy Halloween! (S2 E13, “Halloween”)

and we we forgot to dress up. So this was very last minute, honestly, and we both turned on our zoom link and I saw that we were dressed as the same thing. Basically, you guys did not call each other no, so you found okay. So then, and Jenny, you're wearing a mini mouse ears very cute. So you've got the whiskers as well. You guys both have whiskers on. Oh that's what mouse says? What as the mouse does it? Like? Okay, So whipped this up about fifteen minutes ago. I'll bring

my screen down a little bit. It's well, you know what, let me stand up what it's a it's a barbie to think outside the box. Think outside. Barbie is on a ball, dollar flying splits, splits over the bump. Oh no, but think more Miley Cyrus, Oh wrecking Ball. Hello, you're dressed like a Miley Cyrus from her Wrecking Ball video. I love it. That's really good. You're very creative sissy. For a second, I thought it was Jen's doll. I thought it was the Kelly Taylor doll. I would never

do that to her doll. Yeah, I get Yeah, that is very good of you to whip that up in the last minute. I was a quick Google search. I said, um, last minute pregnant Halloween costume, and this was one of them that came up. And I was like, don't you see that? Take credit for that. That was a really good one. Okay, well, thank you. So. Um, you know, people do Christmas and July, so we're doing Halloween and July Halloween and July. Happy Halloween. Very spooky, that was

my spooky voice. Sorry, yeah, very festive that we we dressed up because we wanted to have fun today. True, but if so so, if you guys are listening, we have whiskers on and noses. But if you're watching this, you will see that we have matching noses and whiskers, and we tend to do this without like people think all the time that we like coordinate our outfits or were colors that are the same because we've talked about it, But it just happens. It's like energetically, it's weird. Even

when you think there's no energy there, it happens. Yeah, so you guys, this is our first Halloween episode of nine two one? Oh it is? Is it? Is? It kind of our first like themed episode. Yes? I thought it was awesome. I love a themed episode. True, it was so good. What a good episode? Yeah, this one was. I liked it a lot. We'll just get right into it. It was season two episode thirteen, entitled Halloween Hello. It aired on October thirty one. Synopsis. The Halloween party is

highlighted by Kelly's bewitching costume. Meanwhile, other twins give Brandon Emily a scare, and David and Scott remember the Good Old Days. Directed by Michael Gatelman and written by Darren Starr and Jonathan Roberts, the episode is chalked up full of it. The whole thing, from beginning to end just feels like a great Halloween Movie, like you're watching Halloween Movie because it starts like on the eerie you know montage with the pumpkins, and it just has that vibe throughout.

And Charles Fleischer. Am I saying his name right, it's the costume salesman in it. And he was Roger Rabbit. Oh my gosh. You know what when we're in the in the um the costume shop, when they go to like Western Costume Warehouse or whatever, the guy holding up the costumes, I I thought that he sounded like familiar or something. He does like all those old voices used to do, like a bunch of crazy voices. I feel

like he did a lot of like crazy things. While we were filming, they didn't use that many of them. You know, we went so they helped. The gang goes to like we're saying, they go to the costume shop, right, and they're picking out costumes. And I thought it was really funny and sort of weird that they that Donna and Kelly were going to dress as Lucy and Ethel because you and I always talk about you're Lucy and

I Ethel. Okay, wait wait wait, I heard that in the scene where they're carving Pumpkins, and I thought I heard it wrong, and I thought, Brenda and Kelly, we're going to go as Lucy and Ethel And I was super sad because yeah, we've always were Lucy and Ethol. But they go to this costume house and they have these costume houses here in l A which are amazing.

They have just giant warehouses full of every costume ever worn in any movie or whatever, like just anything you want to be and they're so beautiful and professional and they cost a lot to rent. But the gang goes there, and I have thought it was kind of interesting because, um, maybe someday or maybe now, people go to that costume shop and say, I want to dress like Steve Sanders. Do you think they have like people go in and say, I want to look like Dylan McKay, I want the

costume of Brenda Walsh. Totally, yeah, for sure. But wait, okay, so when you were saying it, you said Western Costumes, which is the iconic one, and that is where we filmed it, but they call it Hollywood Costumes in the show, I think, and I have a question, can people can the general public go to the Western Costumes? Now? Yeah, I believe so I've gone to them just as like

a human, just gone and chop first. Because I thought when we like in the in the olden days, but like in thirty years ago, wasn't it just like movie people like stylists. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I think there's still those ones that it's more like clothes that you can I don't know, but like which was the place we filmed? Yeah, the costumes as are out there ready for you to shop at, and they are amazing. Maybe this year Halloween will be um a little better than

it was last year. We'll get to dress up and we'll get to go out and have parties and check her treat hopefully hopefully not get raisins. Okay, yeah, what in the hell is she thinking? Like, honestly, I'd rather get like floss than raisins. I would too. Honestly, that sounds like, you know, Cindy decides she's going to give out raisins. You don't. You don't move to Beverly Hills and give out raisins on Halloween. She's gonna get tepeed or egged or something one thousand percent, and you're not

Nature's candy. Sorry, Honestly, I'd rather get a prune because I like raisins, I don't. I don't have like a anti raisin. But for Halloween candy what a bummer? At least have them be yogurt covering. I don't mind that. Wait, have you guys ever been or have you ever tpeed or egged to someone? Or have you been te pete or have you been egged? That's my question? Oh the above. I feel like you were the one teping an egging cists.

I'm just saying, yes, what you did in seventh and eighth grade, you just that's what you did on You'd have a slumber party and usually your birthday, and then you'd go toilet paper in that night and your mom my mom would drive us and we parked down the street. She would I was the last one, you know. She kind of was just like, all right, all rules out there, Yeah, like let's just live it up. So she would drive us all we get in her fore Runner and put all the seats down. So with t P, did you

ever egg anyone? I think we probably did. We did bad things. We got really in trouble one time because one of the girls that we were we were t peing um. One of the girls that was that we were doing it with us. She turned on the hose to like wet all the toilet papers so that it would be terrible to get out. So messed up. It's vandalism, It's what it is. It's truly. What happened was we left the water running and it and apparently their garage

was cracked and flooded. Part of their garage. It was so we didn't obviously do that intentionally, well know, but anyway get in trouble. No, because they didn't press charges or anything like, it wasn't so crazy. But they did call the police. And you know, it's it's essentially kind of a small knit town and where I grew up in Orange County, within Orange County, and that Monday, we're all at school, this is eighth grade. We all get called the principal's office and we go there and there's

a police officer there and they scared us straight. They were like, this is what you did, this is how much it will cost, like blah blah blah blah, and we just like got left off with the a war her name, thank god. But I don't think we have a telepapered ever since that was the last time. I think you wouldn't go back to that. No, You've got n yes, because when I was young. Okay, so my mom was best friends with Nolan Miller, who is the

costume like genius behind like Dynasty and everything. So she would have him make my costumes every year and they were elaborate and amazing, but like when you're on the other end, I was like, I just want a plastic

storebot costume because I just wanted to fit in. And she made this Marie Antoinette costume with this huge, giant like powdered wig, and I had this giant costume that I couldn't move in, which now that I'm thinking, maybe that's why they write Donna into big dresses and costumes that she can't move in, because my mom would put me in costumes I couldn't move in and it wasn't fun.

And I remember going down the street and I got egged and kids were like laughing at me and pointing at me, and then I was like, can I go home now? And they let me go home. It's so mean, like you were directly egged your human body. I wasn't that mad, though, because I was like, see I told you this costume is a joke. But now I look back a pictures, I'm like, that costume is amazing. But at eight years old, you don't want to be wearing

like a huge eighteenth century costume. Mm hmm, what about you, Jenny. Um, I don't remember ever teeping or egging anyone. Um. I loved really far out in the country so that we didn't really have any neighbors. But um we I did get egged very recently. Actually, UM, what yeah, this is a good one. My name my last house. Um. Apparently the neighbor that lived just below us on the hillside didn't like my dogs barking and um, so she decided to come over, a woman that a professional lady walks

over and egged my front entry the gate. She actually spray paint did it too, with black spray paint, and also on the like little callbox which had a camera in it. Hello. So when we got home we saw it. I rewound the video footage and saw that it was my neighbor and you can see her clear as day. You can see her when she's like spray painting, and then she goes right at the camera and the camera goes black like, what, she's so dumb. She didn't know

she was being filmed. She thought that maybe she didn't care if she if I knew it was her, but I didn't press charges. But that was I was like, you got to pay to get this cleaned up? Did did you call her? Did you knock? Her? Husband was mortified. He was like, I can't believe she did this. I'm really sorry she got upset and it was because of the dogs. Because of the dogs barking. That is crazy. She's certifiable, Like that's been much. You never know about

your neighbors in l A. Apparently is she nice to now? No? No, I moved. She was probably really glad when I moved before. What kind of Halloween costumes did your kids ask for? Growing up? My kids always wait till the last minute, and then they're like they create something, which I appreciate they like, and they make, you know, always dress in the little group with their friends and everybody dresses alike.

I always made d I y costumes and a lot of times like food related until they were old enough to look at pictures, and then they were like, we don't want to do that anymore. And now they all just they're in the related like what like you dressed them up like a twinkie or yeah, like your child. Hattie was her. She was born in October, so she was only three weeks old for Halloween and I made her a turkey costume and she was like bundled up inside.

She didn't go out. It was just for like on a platter, a little j She was a herky and like Finn was a piece of sushi. So he had like his little things like swaddled and then I had like little the balls on top of the balls. Halloween is so fun. It is. I'm so glad it will be back this year. You know what wasn't fun was the music in this episode. Uh it pulls me out so hard. I don't know if the music that I'm listening to on when I watch it on Hulu is the real music that when it was actually on. I'm

a little confused about that. But it's so hokey and so like like that there will be in the middle of a scene and because the dialogue will kind of go in one direction, they'll start creating the music to go in that direction, Like can't be little doo Doo doo doo. It's really distracting to me. It was insane. Something tells me it was original, Like it was like, no cosume, I mean, no, Finn, exactly what I'm talking about.

The costume shop. I mean they wanted to have a little fun, I guess, but then they got But to me, it was a little too much. But I guess some people liked it. I'm going to guess there were other things that were distracting to you in this episode as well. Um well, I only saw. I think we should do official boom count for every episode. It's a it's an ongoing thing. This episode I only saw it one time. One boom was that thing you were thinking was just distracting? No,

because I know these things distract you. The scene in the Halloween party, they kept cutting to the same group of people and the same shot, the same shot of like the establishing shot of the big poofy guy whatever he was. It was crazy. I was like, wait, you just used that one of the shots I was including that, Like they cut to me as the mermaid, like standing there rolling my eyes and they cut to me again.

It seems like maybe they were really rushed on time and they didn't get more footage more you know angles I didn't really I didn't really notice that, but now I'm going to watch out for that from moving forward. But the party looked fun. I thought I wanted to throw a Halloween party. Have thrown some big Halloween parties. You probably have two tour um, go all out for Halloween. I used to. I used to live in a neighborhood where they would like bus in the checker traders from

all over. We would have thousands of people in our neighborhood and there was like a stunt show on the corner and they would shut down the streets. This was into Luca Lake, but I don't live there any more, thank goodness. But it was so expensive to just buy enough candy to give out to everyone. It was crazy. That is crazy. I remember years ago when you live there, um, seeing a picture of you and the tabloids they've gotten a picture of you decorating for Halloween. It was the

cutest photo. Do you remember that? I don't remember. I remember though, when I was that when I lived in that house. Um My, the girl's dad used to like to dress up like he was super into dressing up, and I was never really that into dressing up and um, he would dress up like like I can just remember one year he would dress up as Peter Pan and the girls would be Tinkerbell and Windy, you know, the fun little things. And he made me be shm what he made I can't why didn't you say no? Why

didn't you pick a better character? What else was left at that point? Nana? It would have been why were you schmi? You know? And it went that way a few other Halloweens too. I don't remember specifically like that one, but like if he was like the night in shining armor, I was like the horse or something, you know, like or like he was the prince, I was the witch. Whatever. He could have been Peter Pan and he could have

been kept in hook or something anything. I don't know what. Wait, when you guys first got to other, before you had kids, what were you like partner Halloween costume players? Like? Um No, I never was a dresser upper until I had kids, really, And I mean when when I was a kid, I did, but as like a young adult, I didn't really dress up. And I was got married so early that I went from being a teenager right to being married. So but yeah, people do that, though they dress up in like like

Brenda and Dylan, Bonnie and Clyde. So cute. Um, I love that when the couple dresses like partners in crime. Yeah, that would be like like if in your family, like he would have been Dylan and like had all the girls dresses like Kelly and Brenda and Donna, and then you would have been nats right what he would have done. I'm so mad about that we call him up, but I don't know. Furious really funny though. You know what I wondered though, was how did you How did Donna?

Like if I if I was watching the show and I thought it was real, which people do. Um, I was like, how did Donna even get to the party in that outfit? Like how did you get to that spot in front of the food table where we first see you as a mermaid? How did we how did you get there? That's a good question. And there wasn't uber back then, you guys, now, somebody you had to

be there lifted in because you couldn't have walked. I've I feel like they had to bring me in on what were those things where they Yeah, they had to doll you in? You did you look great? That was a great costume, the mermaid costume. Was it truly that tight? Mm hmm yeah, I honestly couldn't move, but it kind of defeats the purpose. Like Kelly tries to get Donna to dress like something sexy and she's like, no, I can never pull that off. And then she's like basically

naked in a mermaid's tail. Was She's like, it's girls, Like, it didn't make sense that part. It was like it's gonna win funny as costume. I'm like, well, it's not exactly funny. Yeah, you were a sexy mermaid. I feel like you all had your entrances coming in, you know, Bunnie and Clyde and then Donna and then finally Kelly, and they do like the pan up from your legs all the way to the top, and they really made a big deal of how sexy the costume. That was

like a head turner moment. Everybody in the party stopped breathing for a few minutes. And but I didn't get it. I didn't I heard. I didn't really think her costume was that like risque or revealing or anything. It was black and it was like witchy. I didn't, did you guys? Think it was super sexual. I mean it was. It was sexy, and that is probably something like someone could have worn somewhere else if they were just dressing sexy.

But they could have gone further. It could have gone further and would have made the story work a little bit better. But she was. She called herself the Friendly Witch, and you know, I thought that she the Friendly Witch had a beautiful French twist to go with her outfit, with the curls. It was like a lot. There was a lot of energy put into that hair do I could tell another episode remember the French twist. Nobody does that anymore. You got to bring it back. I don't

know about bringing that back. I still do a French twist sometimes when you like clamp your hair up to like you know, do the dishes or whatever you like, twist it up and with the clampy thing, I mean it is the French. Yeah right. I was annoyed with Brenda though. She was like so motherly at first, and I was like, get killing break, she's single, she wants to skank it up. I mean, what skinking up? And ps, you're not my mom? Hello? Yeah? It was too much.

It was like appalled and Yeah. Meanwhile, she had a a you know, a glock or pistol tucked into her pants, a glock like like like at one of those fanty guns. She had like a gun tucked into her her poon nanny, and she pulled it out right in front of her dad and her brother. Yeah, it was a little like I was thought, well, if you shouldn't really be talking to me when you got a gun stuck in your crotch, lady. But you know what, her afot was probably really hot.

She was just probably a little up tight that night. She mad. It was like polyester. It was like it couldn't breathe. Im oh, and then um David was there. He wasn't supposedly dressed up, but I felt like that blazer was a costume. He looked like it was like a magician black though, that's like Halloween colors. It was. Yeah, it was horrible. Yeah, he didn't stick around for the party.

He went to meet up with Scott Scanlon in the bushes, which reminded me so much of when I saw that shot of their two little heads speaking through the bushes for an uncomfortably long amount of time, by the way, like they just kept talking and having their moment while their heads were stuck in the bushes, and um, it reminded me of Mystery Girls. Do you remember when we had to do that scene and we were in the

bushes and we had to peek through the bushes. Oh my gosh, you guys, we had so much fun doing Mystery Girls. Um. Definitely, I feel like this director never came back again. I feel like somewhere afterwards they were all watching and they're like, good episode, but just not very nine two one. Oh right, I don't know did he even? I really don't know. If you don't think so, I don't know. I don't recognize his name. Well, the episode takes a turn, and I think we should get

into that. We need to take a break. Okay, so you're saying the episode took a turn. What do you mean by that? Says like became more of a after school special kind of thing. It gave an after school special vibe, and then it was all back to centered around Kelly's outfit And was it too you know, revealing or were you giving off a message by wearing that outfit per se? What do you think about that concept of like we we as women have to dress a certain way so that we don't get um sexualized by

you know, or or or worse by men. The bummer it is, Yeah, do you mean guys come on down with their shirts off right and women aren't. Like, Oh, my daughter just told me she was walking with her friend from her school to the mall the other day, which I just recently let her start doing. Told he freaks me out. But it's like a block away. Uh. She she was like, yeah, we got she said, we got cat called, and that's a who cat called. Just some guys driving by, and she said they were like

they looked like they were construction guys, like Olderman. You. I can't believe that still happens. I can't either. Yeah, that happened to me one time, like in the last couple of years. One time, and then one time I think I might have told you about this. And then um, the guy was like next to me, kept pulling up, kept pulling up, and I was like looking down, adjusting. I was doing my music and I and then I looked and then he saw he was like old he was. He was like he saw he was like they think

it's gonna be good. Yeah, And then he's like because Jenna and I have talked about since this hasn't happened to you yet. When you turn you pass that point where you think you're still like oh young and a looker, and men are like, oh, there's some moms and not melts. There's like, yeah, you reach the age where you kind of become invisible to God. But you're saying you weren't invisible from the back, So there you go. You've got a compliment. At least that should make you feel better.

Do you want to be visible to men, even though if you're in a relationship like with a husband or boyfriend. No, I've never been one that like wants that attention or like, yeah, that wants to be spotted in a crowd like I don't. I've never been one to want to stand out. So I always get really super uncomfortable when that kind of

thing happens. I get a little uncomfortable right now because I'm like nine months pregnant and I went to Um Cascades concert at Sofi Stadium this past weekend and I was like, um, the pregnant girl in the suite right now, Like I just kind of felt like, you know, everyone's there, like party, definitely was not partying. No, that's the kind of thing about pregnant is like you do You're like, Hi, it's just me over here, make baby. I'll be in the corner, just making a baby. I feel I think

women can should and where whatever they want. What am I trying to say here? I I feel like they should dress however they want, and it doesn't mean that they're asking for anything. That's if it makes you feel good. And it used to be the one night of the year that you're like, Okay, I'm not a slut, I'm not a whore. If I want to dress a little sexy, I'm gonna do it, and it's for me. It's not

about men's attention. I mean, it's funny because like teenage girls take that opportunity to make it a big sexy situation like where release can be outfits sometimes and and that's their night to shine, you know. Nice I can dress sexy because it's a costume and I can get away with it. Yeah. I don't know, but I feel like that's changing now because now everything they wear is skimpy. It so the skirts are so short, like and the tops are I guess I can't speak like when you

sound like I know they are. I know forget it's true, though it's true. Music is too loud and the skirts are too short. Do you have rules with your daughters of what they can wear and not wear? I just am like they She'll one of my daughters like wears little tank tops that kind of show her tummy. Now m h and yeah, I don't love it, but she usually covers up with a sweatshirt like halfway on, halfway off, kind of a look. You know, that's what they're doing

these days, the kids. But I feel like they they don't want to show their bodies anymore than I want them to. Really, mine are younger. I'm just getting to the point where my third year old is trying to fit in and and dress like that. It's still hard because she's my baby, so it's hard for me to see it. And I'm like I just tell her. I'm like, you have to remember it a cross your legs now, you can't like just bend you. The other day we're out and she bent over to pick something up and

I was like, still, I see your butt. I see your butt. I was like, momm calmed down, but yeah, and I was like, oh, teen drama. What's happening? Oh my gosh, Okay, but I thought it was funny. I mean that that's what the I guess the point of this whole storyline was was to Kelly felt confident and

she felt beautiful, and I think that's what matters. And and people like Brenda and Steve were kind of saying you shouldn't do that, You shouldn't be putting yourself out there like that is that is that a thing a friend should or shouldn't do or say? You know, I think in this case it needed to be said, based on what ended up happening towards the end of the episode of Kelly's that there was like both sides of

the story. I think, like so if you had the rewind button, you could like just rewind it and then go back because you knew what was going to happen. I'm just kidding, well, I think that, you know, like sometimes even with you and me, like you'll be wearing something and you won't even notice, but it'll be a little too low and I'll like come over and on the boobs, like cover those up just a little bit more. So,

I guess it never really ends. It's always in the best interest, right, So Brenda and Steve had the best interest of what they said to Kelly and Donna. But yeah, I didn't think it came across the right way. Like it wasn't. Obviously we know what ended up happening. But I thought Kelly looked beautiful and like, I feel like at seventeen, I would have told you look great, like I don't think there it wasn't too much. I don't know, it's hard to say. And then Steve was trying to

tell Donna, like, you look like a trout. It's like, well, she's can dress. However she went out, I mean a trout. I don't know. Did Donna's stand there just squirming like that? The whole party like did how long did you have to stand there and squirm and look uncomfortable and awkward? Like? Do that? I feel like, if I think back to it right now, he made me do one, like one shot, one or two shots that was, and they just kept recycling it, kept cutting different places, yeah, and I was like,

is he gonna cut it? Is he gonna cut just kept doing it. Kelly was turning away the guys. I thought it was hilarious when she turned away the art vark. I mean it wouldn't. I can't really blame her. Oh my gosh. Remember the guy that wanted you to meet him outside? Yes? Remember that was Remember Click? Was he dressed for pinder pants? That was Click? Yeah. We used to be friends with him, but I don't even remember how we met him originally and friends with him. I

know he was. He was always there. He was always remembered in the dressing rooms, were like, who is this guy? What's he doing here? And he acted like he was so comfortable being there to like all the time, like other weeks. Yeah, yeah, I think that's why he was or Shannon. I thought it was Shannon. It was. It got weird. I saw him years later though, but he didn't. It was like the party was like, all, there you are thirty years later. He's a nice guy. He did

a good job, though. Is the slimy Robin hood? Mm hm? Yeah. What they're telling us that he was on a total of six episodes, Michael set up be this one being the first cliff Cliff wise on six episodes. Huh, Well, he was always there, so I guess they's threw a minute. I don't know. We didn't hire anybody, I'll bring that kid in that's hanging out by the lunch line. So if that happens, are they paid? Yes, of course he was there. He wasn't stupid. He's the stand around wait

for a big moment. I feel like he was on other like he was an actor. Wasn't like it was his only thing. Halloween was the first episode season ten. He was all the way into season ten. My mind is blown right now. We got to have him on the show and talk to him about how this how did he get these jobs? How did this all start? Let's get Michael Seta on the show. And I don't even know if I'm saying his last name, right Setta, that's the character. I think his name was Cliff Dorfman.

I'll never forget that name, Cliff Dorfman. Let's get Cliff Dorfman on the show. Oh my god, please, let's book him next week. Cliff Dorfman. Okay. So, and then all the time that this is happening, Kelly's almost getting ripe. I know that anytime anyone asked me like, oh, what are all the things that happened to Kelly over the course of the ten years of the show, all the dramas, you know, I'm like, oh, she did this, she did this,

and she almost got raped. This is all we Oh, this is almost got raped episode that I'm referring to because she almost got raped too, and she's talking about the slumber party thing, right, but this is when we get to see. Unfortunately, it was very cringe e. I was super cringe e watching Kelly and um the cowboy flirt. It has made me so uncomfortable watching it. Did you watch by herself or did you watch with anybody else? I watched it by myself. Okay, I thought he was

good though, Yeah, he was great. That The actor that played the cowboy Anthony Stark. And then you guys on the the people that weren't at the party were Brandon and Emily, and Emily has gone taken her the twins to go trigger treating at Brandon's house and then they end up going together and then they end up losing the kids, which was terrifying, but then all ends well, of course, and they end up at the peach Pit

where they have their first big smooth r rooney. Yeah, right there in front of Nat and all the customers to see. I was like, guys, they don't do that at work something. It was a good kiss though m we said before we didn't really feel like they had chemistry. I felt like it was building in this episode and starting to be a little bit more visible. Definitely. I felt like Emily was a little off character in this episode though, but I guess there was an other side

to her. I guess that was good. I don't know. I thought the storyline was a little bores me more, but I like that. I like they ended up being together and kissing. I like that part, but the whole like losing the kids and like, I don't know, I just wanted to get back to the Halloween party. Wanted more of the Halloween party. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, Like I just didn't want to leave it. I guess I would. I wish that all the storylines have been

at the Halloween party. The others felt distracting when they weren't, Like the David and Scott storyline and egging in the bushes. Yeah, I feel like the Scott says that he loves the Wis you say I love drama or I love danger? Scott Scallen says, I love danger. He never strikes me as a guy that loves the danger. But I guess building up building, Yeah, I guess there. They have a plan in place too. Um write towards what's coming up as a storyline for his was Andrea in this episode?

She wasn't the beginning she was in the I think she just worked. She just worked the whole time. She stayed in the newspaper office and never came out. Yeah, she didn't go to the party. M do we know why? I never said M. Never explained what was she Maybe she was doing something she hit days off. She never really went to parties though, it's kind of like understood a weird way. Yeah she did. She would have to take the bus, and maybe the bus didn't go to

that location. Um, well she could have picked me up, because I obviously need someone to give me a ride there and carry me in. But tory, being that you grew up in Beverly Hills, did you ever uh come over the hill into the valley and come to house parties or that was that like a poo pooed on idea? I did once, Like even though I grew up on the West Side in l a like, I ended up being best friends at the end of high school with valley kids. So I ended up like at the end

of high school, always going to the valley. It's funny because even like in the movie Clueless, they make a big deal of like how it's in the valley, like it's gonna get broken up. Like I just didn't know if that was a thing in real life. Now it really helps people suck valley's where it was at. Well, we have we've talked a lot of fashion, even though we have that coming up and we haven't talked best lines. We have a few questions. If you guys are up for it, I think we should take a break and

come right back. Oh yeah, this episode was all about the fashion, the costumes, so we talked. We covered you know, Kelly's costume, Donna's costume. UM. I loved the um Bonnie and Clyde thing. I thought that was really cool. Although I was a little like scared of Dylan's machine gun. I thought, did they do they still give out costumes with guns these days? I don't think I would want my kid to have that prop. I did even have a stigma with like water guns, but that one looked real,

that looked like the real thing. Yeah, yeah, did you guys have any other fashion um Steve's Zoro outfit, Yeah he did. He looked very handsome. I feel like his mullet was even more intense this episode when he wasn't in costume. You could really was like poofed up in the back. Yeah, like you could have braided it slightly. The guys that Jason and Brandon were sporting their sideburns, so he maybe felt pressure like he had to have some signature. Look. The mullet was his signature look. Apparently

it was something. And of course there was Cindy's a little tiny tie that she wore to give out Halloween Candy. I thought that was really she went to a lot of effort to put that tie on in it was like the shortest little tie and had a little pliny pumpkin on it. At first I thought it was like a nod to like Brenda's ties that she was wearing throughout the season. Like I was confused, and I was like, oh, it's a tiny type for Halloween. Tiny tie, tiny favorite lines.

I like Kelly's line Steve with you and me, it's all imagination. Oh that's good. Mine was from Steve. It was come on, don't be a squeef squeef again apparently a big someone like that line in the night. It really stood out this time because I had the subtitles on, Like it was like I could see it spelled out, and I was like, Uh, why do you have the

subtitles on? I always do. I have on every network and streaming by choice, English subtitles, like because sometimes my house is so loud and there's kids screaming or people run around, or I'm always like, how do I get this off? I don't know how to turn off the subtitles. I used to not be a subtitle girl, and somebody else told me that they always have it on, and I need it now because there's always some sort of noise in the background, or my husband's cooking something right

in the kitchen's right off the living room. So I just it's nice you don't find it distracting that you just like tend to read instead of like listening. Yeah, that's what happens to me. And when I'm watching it and the words are down at the bottom, I find myself reading it and instead of watching what they're doing to make sure of both. I don't know. I'm so used to it now now like, if they're not on,

I can't hear anything. And maybe I'm going deaf because I have headphones on every day of my life, music blasting in them. Something I'm looking too. Maybe that's something I've been putting off. But then am I to do list? Speaking of to do list, you have questions for us,

let's to do them. Yeah, this is from Alexa. Sorry if we're setting off your actual Alexa by saying that Alexa, but she's said is I've been reading these comments on Instagram and there's so many passionate fans when it comes to relationships on the show, even thirty plus years later. What do you guys do when you read negative comments about your characters? Do you get defensive or do you

just ignore it? I don't think I get defensive when I read negative comments about my character on nine or two and oh, like my I think it it crosses the line when they start talking about personally to me the person or my kids or my whatever my life. But if it's just related to like, oh I hate Kelly, she was such a bitch. I couldn't stand Kelly the sound of her voice. I mean, I've read them all, but yeah, you know that it doesn't bother me. Like

to each his zone. Some people like Brenda, some people like Donna, some people like Kelly. Everybody has a different flavor, so it doesn't really get to me. It's the personal ones that are a little bit. They get you. They get you in the heart a little bit. Do you go in and you you read all the comments? I can't. I don't read sometimes, and then it takes me down

a rabbit hole. If you go down that rabbit hole and all you see is that you can read thirty forty fifty continents that are are positive and make you feel so good, but you don't read those. You read the negative ones. Yep. And but I think that talking about that, maybe we'll bring awareness to people because we're not the only people who do that. Everybody does that. Like you know, your mind goes to to those dark

places so easily. So I think it's a good message for everybody to ignore the negative and stick with the positive. Go with the positive, whether it's in a comment on a post on your Instagram or anywhere, whether it's in

your own head. Don't listen to those negative things. It's so crazy that people feel like if it's a celebrity or a character that they can that they're not real to them, So I guess they feel like it's okay, But I always think, like, how would they feel if someone said something horrible to them without even knowing them

at all? Like it's just I don't know. I never answer those like because like on my Instagram, I have like an email like and it's my Instagram email, so people can write things there, and usually it's about business. I don't get many personal ones. But the other day I happen to read a personal one. And these things never bother me. I've really thick skin after this many years,

after thirty years. But she was being so mean and saying how ugly I was, and just it was so horrifying that actually wrote her back and we talked about this, and then she was like, oh, I'm sorry, I love you. I didn't think you read these, and I just meant you used to be beautiful and you shouldn't inject your face with anything like botox or filler, And I you know, I'm one of the people that care about you. You don't. Obviously you don't have many people that care about either

would tell you not to do that. So I just thought, my god, I care about you. I literally and then I was like, okay, am I going to write it back again? And I'm like no, And so I didn't write her back again, but it was it upset me enough that I almost put her her email her comment to me on my Instagram and said this isn't nice

to do to somebody, like it really upset me. And like I said, we have thick skin from everything we've heard over the years from people talking about everything you know, you know, and if we since we're in the public eye, and if we do say something bad or or off you know, off putting to someone or negative about someone, it'll be picked up and we'll be canceled. You say

the wrong thing these days and you're out. Why doesn't that apply to people that send in you know, it should apply to people that are just trolling and being hateful like that. Imagine they got to work and everyone's like, we know what you did, and they're like, what are you talking about? They're like you're canceled, and it's like, yeah, like it should apply, Like it's crazy. It's so much more intensified now because everyone has access to just directly

to you in theory. Back in the day, how were the comments It wasn't just from media outlets then back in the night, they were like form boards like the internet. It just started wait, no prey Internet, like you guys were I don't know, but I used to read the comments like room. Where was that? Like l it ruined my life back then, Like I was like sixteen seventeen, people being like, you have bug eyes, frog eyes, You're

the ugliest thing. Like people always say, why do you turn to the side, And it's like because people wrote things like I had at a nose job and my nose is slightly crooked, but people wrote such horrible things that I hated my face, like it's a no thing. Like people need to watch what they say, like it can like stay with you forever. That's like, let's just

all let's just all be kind how about that? How about we all just be kind to one another and give each other a break because life is hard and we all make mistakes and you know, everybody has their preferences, but we should all just practice kindness. Let's do that today. I'm gonna go and be kind to somebody that I would normally not be kind too. I've already done it once that I'm gonna do it again, do it again,

all right. Next question is from Linda. She says you both have had several hairstyles throughout the course of the show. Did you get to pick your hairstyles or have to have them pre approved before each season? Did you have a favorite? Tori? Was it your decision to go brunette later in the series? That's questions. Um, I feel like

we had free rain. I think we're probably supposed to check in, but I don't think we did if we chose to do like haircuts or things, and then they would just be like, oh, now we have to deal with it. Let's write it as long as it didn't happen within the episode, or if it is it an episode that was a continuation we were, or if we came back a new season. Um, my choice to go brunette. I had a manager at the time, and she told me she was like, no one's ever going to see

you as anything besides Donna. Um, and you need to be more like girl next door. But Donna was a girl next door, so I don't know. So she like convinced me to die my hair brown. Now, looking back, I'm really sad that Donna like got married were spoiler sorry, Like, I'm so bummed that I didn't have like Donna, like blonde original hair when I got married to David at the end, like, I don't know, I wouldn't have chosen

dark hair. Yeah, I went dark for a minute to right after the show um finished, and I because I thought, I need to I need a departure. I need to not be associated with Kelly for a minute. I need to not feel like Kelly for a minute. And I died my hair brown and my marriage almost killed me. It was really bad. He's like, well, I guess you never want to work again in this town. But I was like, that probably made me keep it brown longer. Just what about the short hair Kelly has at one

point that was written short hair Kelly. I guess I just wanted to be like like the people like in the trends. I wanted to have a pixie haircut, so I tried to pixie very like Um, what was the girl that did the pixie Winona writer? I wanted to be her? Wasn't what I said to you? What did you say? No, I don't remember exactly what you said to me, but you were appalled at my hair from the moment you cast eyes on it, and never ever

let me forget it. Never a day went by that you didn't make a negative comment and tell me I was like a soccer mom. It was this was this Kelly, was this Jenny? Like, what was the reasoning behind the pixie cut? It was a Jenny decision probably like okay okay, And I didn't really think it through to like, oh, I'm I'm a character on a really popular TV show. I didn't really think that one through. I felt I can't if I remember. I feel like it worked in

with a storyline. You would probably remember exactly what happened. I'm gonna refer to you me or Dory oh me um episode. But it looked I loved your hair short though, when you had the call in storyline and your hair was like edgy and spiky, like you know when you would like put stuff in it. I just didn't love it when it was like fluffy short, like all curled

poofed out. Yeah. I felt like her intention was like cool, like when she came up, like when she walked in, it looked cool and she was dressed cool, and then they put her in like the Kelly like dresses they were in then, and they did her hair on set, and the and the hair stylist didn't know how to do the hair, and that's when it looked like a

sarcer mom. Well, however, I don't know. I don't. I do know that if you type in like to Google, even to this day, if you type in like short haircut, but there's a picture of me somewhere and that if you scroll down long enough, you'll see a picture of me. But that's short haircut. I loved it. People loved it. I loved it. My husband does not want me to do it again, so I will leave my hair long, I guess. But is that even a question You had a thought about doing it again? No, I don't dare.

It's a lot of work. You're when you have long hair. You have to wash it, you have to like dry it, the brushes. Oh my god, I said it years ago and I'll say it again now. Do not do that. Well, I have an appointment on Saturday, so we'll do what I mean. If you super mad, if you cut your hair short and he doesn't even look like you look like this is me you with short hair, Let me see that's like a lob, so that's that's acceptable. This

is like, are we talking like this? You would maybe do like that, could be chic like not, but there's extensions now, so it doesn't really matter. You could do it. Mm hmm. Yeah. See out in person it looked good. And we had a photo shoot where she had like this little we all had like skin tight little dresses on and she had it sleeked and like darker lips and it looked hot. You have not known. I don't like that, Okay, you guys. Next week's episode is called

what the next fifty Years? The next fifty years? You're looking at it here, it is the next fifty years. I hope you like it, and if you don't, who cares? Just be nice. We had fun dressing up with you guys for the Halloween episode Happy Halloween and July. Yes, Happy Halloween. Wait is Cliff Dwarfman the next episode, Cliffdorfman, call us up us. I'm gonna slide into his d M as soon as we're done here. Okay, by everybody, Bye you guys. Byem hm