Feeling for Dylan

a producer, right, remember didn't you get notes? But you get to get it from all of the world now. And I listened. It was painful. I didn't like cry, but I just was like, oh, it feels like you get punched in the stomach. But I listen, and I'm gonna talk less and whisper never again. Don't let the people, don't let people, you know, hold down your light, put out your light, and you be you because that's why we loved you. You can't please everybody. We all know that.

You know what pleased us a lot though, and that's important as well, because it made a smile. I always real what pleased me this episode very different episode of nine. Yeah. First, first, first, I want to I want to just go back for a second. I um, after the podcast, I went back and I rewatched the episode from last week, the part specifically to see because, as you all know, I'm watching this for the very first time, Tories mostly watching it.

I think you're watching all of it for the very first time, even though you have a lot better memory than I do about a lot of it. But um so when Jack the car blew up, and then when you guys told me that that's not really what happened to Jack didn't really die, it really screw me for a loop and I had to go back and watch it. So I watched it, and Okay, you're right, Amy, he I was wrong. He did not. I did not see him get into the car, so I don't really know.

But but I don't think that if if a car blew up like that, we would see a body or anything. It was so like explosive and so crazy, and I don't know. You can't see, you can't like there's nothing as a steering wheel. You see a steering wheel, You see a lot of flames, steering wheel, you see the steering back. I didn't get it. Didn't. It didn't set me off like I wasn't like, I don't know, I'm gonna but I'm gonna go with I absolutely think that

Jack McKay died in that explosion. That is how I, as a viewer, I am going to interpret it because that's how I wanted to be um. Not that I wanted him to die, but I you know, I want that for the purpose of the story I in for

what's going on. I don't know, you know, in other podcasts or interviews or whatever, there have been people saying, oh that Chuck Rosen r ep um said that he did, that he had left it open ended, that he didn't have he didn't have any pardon, whether it was coming back or not, that he had left the show, and then different writers took it a different direction. I don't know, I don't care. I don't care about it. Chuck Rosen not there the whole ten years, No, he it it?

And then who shock over Jena. I don't know. I can't remember. Was there Eisendraff? Yes, yes, it was. Now that you say his name, I remember, what's his name? Eisendraff? John? Eisendraff? He loved us? Did he not care? For you. I feel like so much sarcasm coming from Tori me. I guess you know what it's best if we wait until

when we'll talk about Okay, I look forward. I have something to look forward to because I actually don't know what you're talking about, but you have a freshwire memory and then I will come back to me because that's how it works. But I, like I said, it was just different, like chucking stuff. From the beginning, it was like family, and then it's like detour. Someone came in that I didn't know us as well, and it was just a different way of of running the ship. Anybody

hard to come yes on this episode? Okay, let's just I. We'll see our thing first and then we're gonna dive in because there's so much to talk about. This is season three episode The Child Is Father to the Man,

aired February. Synopsis. After Jack is killed in a mob related car bombing, Dylan struggles with his inner self, urging him back to old drinking habits before learned the shocking truth about his father's parole and true colors from Christine, who revealed to be f I f I uh one eye at one eye contacts not working, uh, After Jack is killed in a mob related car bombing, Dylan struggles with his inner self, urging him back to old drinking

habits before he learns the shocking truth about his father's parole and true colors from Christine, who's revealed to be FBI agent. Meanwhile, Kelly continues to be obsessed with losing

weight and against starving herself while she becomes uncomfortable. When Jim asked Dylan to stay at the wallsh House for a while to avoid reporters following his every move, Steve turns down, giving any more recording advice to David, who struggles with meaning with Curtis Bray and Surge men can for a for a recording session on the day of Jack McKay's funeral. Also, Brandon's losing street continues as his betting continues. A lot a lot of synopsis there. This

was just good TV, playing and simple. This was um my favorite episode so far of the three seasons that we've seen. I feel like seasons that's a big state. Yeah, this was it. Starting with the right out of the gate with with the dream slash nightmare and then the

line from what what is you know? The alter ego or whoever it is that the other Dylan in the squences where he says Jack's dead, we might as well be just sets up the whole episode for me and was like goose bumps because that statement couldn't be truer. Like when you lose someone that's that you're that close with, that's how you feel like they're dead. I might as well be dead too. The writing was really on point.

Like the writing, the direction, it was a little less nine o two, A knowe just felt like a real kind of it was much lack of a better word, arts here, you know what I mean. It was it told the story just so much more profoundly. Whether it was through the like what they did with the camera or that, I don't know. I gotta give it to Luke though this was last year. Last week we were like, I don't know about that performance of the car blowing up thing. I don't know if it was anywhere like

this was emmy worthy. I agreeing, And it's a travesty that that was not recognized that he did not get any kind of credit for that. I put in my notes, I'm so curious what you guys would respond to this, I said, is this when Luke became the star of this show. And I think that when this is when Luke became a star, Like he was already a star, but this was when people realized the depth of his ability to bring you to just your knees with emotion,

like wow. But the whole thing, this whole dad dying storyline, just has me so like rocked really honestly, I mean feeling low and too pressed and like I'm like, why would Beverly Hills No. No. Two one O take us

down this road? Because it's so traumatic and so dramatic and it brings up terrible feelings, especially for people who have lost somebody in their lives, like their father, Like whoa, it's hard to watch, Yeah, and we forget sometimes I think it's like it's Luke Perry, it's still and like we forget he's just a teen boy, like having to do that because he's such a superstar, right, I mean it's awful, right, Like from that scene where he's on the phone and Kelly's there and she doesn't know how

to be with him or what to say or how to comfort him, and it's just awful because he's dealing with all of this essentially alone, and he's not equipped. Neither of them are equipped to um navigate this. They they're not They shouldn't be their teenagers. I like to that out even as adults. That is like going to the funeral that was so relatable to me because it was like, have you before that? Have you called him?

Like I don't know relatable to be like I don't know what to say as an adult with kids of my own when someone loses someone, I still don't know what to say because there is no there's nothing. And I remember when I lost my dad, Like people say, I don't know what to say, and I kept reminding them it's okay not to know what you say, because

it's a feeling like only you know. It's great that people express their sorrow and sorry for your loss, but it doesn't really matter because nothing takes it away, like only you have that you know, and you to grieve as long as you want and usually it's forever changes to wow, whoa jan forever? And it changed. That's what I said last week, like this is changing everything. I don't know how the show can come back from this.

I don't know how the character of Dylan can ever have fun and go to the beach and be surfing again and hang out with the bu It's like it's always going to be this just like underlying current for him, as it would be in real life. And it's just like, I don't understand why they went this direction, Like it just kind of upsets me, honestly. Mm hmmm. I mean I don't know why. But I think it's interesting that you said this is your favorite episode of all the

three seasons. So as much as you're like, why did they go this way? It was still good. Maybe you answered your own question because I also think it's one of the best episodes so far, definitely, And I think you could argue it's one of the best episodes of the ten years. Yeah. I mean, they weren't making a lot of TV like this in honestly, they weren't giving young actors the opportunity to explore this territory and to

you know, do this kind of acting. And I thought it was so fascinating how he brilliantly played both the younger version of himself and the high school Dylan because they looked different even like the way he did it, I was like, oh my god, Like I literally wrote down the high school versions like a babe, even though he was emotional and crying. The younger version physically was completely different, even though it was Luke Perry at the

same exact dight. And it was interesting to like watching it and having loved Luke so much and been so close to him, I've seen all those parts of Luke in different very certain you know, situations and conversations and settings like those. It's so fascinating how that's all in somebody like that anger and that at all those things

that he was was playing with or in that. I don't want to get it wrong, but I'm fairly certain that in an original version of this, that young actor that comes on at the end was actually supposed to play the young Luke throughout the episode, and that Luke Perry went and asked and said, these this, these lines are amazing. Can I can I play both? And I don't want to get it wrong, but that's what I read and how I interpreted it. Well. I think that

was a good call. I agree this was his best episode, probably one of the best things I've ever seen him. And I mean, I think he was brilliant in Riverdale too, but that's a different conversation. I never watched that, but I know that this was. This is a fan favorite for for so many people. People love the last episode, but people really love this episode, and everybody is like, my heartbroke. This was heartbreaking. This episode from beginning to

end was agonizing. It was hard to watch, but that's what was so great about it. Yeah, I thought, now even harder to watch because just having lost Luke and dealing with his death. Oh, I can't even get into it, but I I, for one um, I was watching this in my living room a few hours ago, and for some reason, my house is rarely quiet, I'm rarely home alone. Everyone magically left the house as I was watching it.

And when we got to the end and you see you know Luke, you see Dylan with the I just have WHOA, I have major breakdown and just like right back to that feeling of losing him. I'm so sorry. I can only imagine because this is the first episode for me where I thought about it a number of times during the episode, So I can only imagine for you both and not just me, like everybody felt felt it. I'm sure that we watched it and you know, his beautiful children, like I hope they never watched it because

it's just like too much, just too much. Yeah, I don't know if I've heard anyone bring that up though, that's so true, like the fact that Luke is speaking to his inner self, his younger self, talking about his dad's death and how death affects you forever, Like I don't have you amy heard other fans talk about it gets so right on with Jen's saying like it takes all of us back to the moment like when we

lost Low. Yeah, I'd say, what's so interesting about it is I was completely immersed in the episode while simultaneously being so devastated that he's not here anymore. It was really the first time where that was so glaring. Mm hmmm. It's interesting, and just the whole episode is really his because even Brian Austin Green, who who I thought his storyline was so dumb, Yeah, stop telling him this dumb stuff.

And then what a powerful moment they have in that scene. Yeah, I mean I felt bad for him when he in the bathroom and sorry Dylan kind of you know, well not kind of. He really does just blow him off and says whatever, and and but that didn't make David stop,

which I loved about him. He still couldn't get there his recording session, and he still somehow made it to the Walsh's house to pay his respects, and he walks in at that pivotal moment, right when Dylan didn't have the body to help him and he needed that friend to just intervene, and magically David was there and he had all the right things to say, And yes, that was really a beautiful scene and probably also some of Brian Auston Green's best work, Like everybody was at their

ut most because Brenda was Shannon was amazing in this episode, Like I'm still Kelly, but but I I think maybe they should have gotten back together. In this episode, I felt the same way, Like I I feel the same way. I was, like, I'm so impressed with the way Brenda is dealing with this all and just the depth of her character. I felt it, and I wanted them to hug.

I wanted them to get back together because that scene where Dylan was in the bathroom and he's trying to put on his tie and he couldn't keep it together, and she was so stoic and so strong for him, because I don't I don't know why. That's just how

she chose to play it, and but it worked. But I just really wanted them to embrace in her, to want them to like and not in like a Kado never thought like a kiss thing is appropriate, especially even when Kelly kissed him in the beginning, like I don't like that, you know, like she didn't in that moment. Kelly didn't know do I hug him, do I kiss him? How do I come from him? What would make him? I don't know. But I didn't feel like a kiss

would have been right for Brenda. In that moment with Dylan, I felt like the hug, like the friendship, that deep connection that they had. Yeah, I felt every single person played their character to the utmost. And we can talk about both of you because it's true for both of you. Jenny will get to you because yours was a little more complicated tory for you. That scene with David and with Kelly, where once again Donna is always in the middle, in the middle and stays so strong on what is right,

what is the right thing to do? Donna like really never the whole time. I wish she had chosen a few more levels. But yeah, no, I thought it was so great when you're passionate about you. It was like I was like, okay taking out like I thought, she was like right on saying David like you don't need to go to your recording session today, and Kelly, you need to get dressed, you need to be there. This is the right thing. I just she is the moral compass for this group always. Well, it's very rare that,

like it's this episode. I don't think we mentioned it was written by Darren Starr, Karen Rosen, and Chuck Rosen, So it was our creator and our two show runners. And I think have you ever said, have they ever written an episode just the three of them together? I don't know if we've had that, but a lot of times, like the I thought the writing was so good in this episode, and I feel like those three powerhouses writing a complete episode is like I feel like it was

such an important episode. They were like, no, we're not gonna have like staff writers writed and then we'll weigh in, we want to write this one. But also, um James Whitmore Jr. Who was one of our favorite directors. I wonder if, like I can't remember because we had a lot of directors who were like, hey, you guys know your stuff. We'll just kind of stand back and direct the scenes. But you you choose what you do for your characters. And we had some directors who wanted to

get there, you know, their stamp in there. So I can't remember what he was like, do you remember? But I have an inkling that he was a little bit more involved in the acting in theat have to be. How could Luke, I mean, the most brilliant actor would need something to play two characters at the exact same time in scenes opposite themselves. Like who stood in for

Luke when he was being do you know what I mean? Like, he's obviously got to be standon Greg Stan who was in the opening when he's when he's surfing, that's his stand in. Oh no, what was the air date again of this episode? I mean obviously we talked about it last week. It's Sweeps. Yeah, it's like the middle of Sweeps in the nineties, which was just the biggest deal. I'm sure Fox promoted this these episodes every day leading

up to it, as they should have. Yeah, I mean you're right though, that everybody out a good um, Like usually there's an a storyline to be storyline, but this was like the a storyline and everybody was involved in it and I like that. Well, and Jenny, let's talk about you, because playing Kelly or being Kelly in this episode is so challenging. As she's navigating trying to be there for him, she's the only one at the house.

She's dealing with that paparazzi and press or whatever they were, and Jim, who you have to be respectful of because he's a father and an adult, coming in and literally stabbing you in your heart basically by saying like we're gonna take you son, and you're gonna come home with us, which was the right thing for Dylan to do, but you've got this tension with Brenda and like that's the ex girlfriend. I mean, what a mess for Kelly, even though I understand it was about Dylan, but still it

was so painful. Yeah, she didn't know what to do or I mean, you we see her sort of struggling with her eating disorder in this one, and she's you know, nervous eating binging chips. Yeah, because she doesn't know how to handle things, and um, I felt like that was just her really giving into her own self doubt and her own insecurities like that are so deep within her, you know that it inhibits her from being outside of herself enough to help Dylan in in those moments when

he needed it. So it was definitely the right call for for Dylan to go to the Wallshes, for him to have that um family presence and like that support. And of course she felt like you know, on the outs because she wasn't there. I mean, she could have had him come to her house, and I'm sure her mom would have loved, you know, to support him that way too. But it was right that he went to the to the Wallsh's house and that Cindy you know,

through the wake for him. And then you have that great scene with it's Kelly and Christine and Brenda comes up, you know, really putting everything aside both of them and saying you remember how to get there, and it's like wow, this everybody's just in pain and trying to navigate it and their teenagers and then trying to do the right thing.

The episode felt very soapy to me, but also very real, like I was like, I'm in hook Line and Sinker and everything happening here, even though it's taken them more of a dynasty turn. It didn't. It didn't feel dynasty to me. It didn't feel like it's unbelievable because of the acting from everybody. Honestly, it didn't ever feel like unrealistic to me or it felt so. As an actor. In order to put upon that kind of an emotional you know, depth, you have to have seen some in

your life. You've had to go through some stuff to pull on that stuff. And you know, Luke had dealt with stuff with his own upbringing, and there you could just see he was pulling from such such a deep well. And I felt like everybody was respectful of that and sort of conscious of that and working around what he was doing with his story. And that's how it would be if if this character's father had died and nobody knew how to handle it, even when he's trying to

reach Iris. I thought, God, this is so he's amazing. He was amazing. What did you guys think of the red elation that? But what I was wrote what he sees FBI had not that coming. First of all, she looked great as an FBI agent. I was like, of course, it makes such sense, like she's such, she's perfect for that, but I didn't not because we knew what was coming. We expected, but I didn't know I thought anything like

that would be the case. Now, I thought he was going to go into the that shady check that they took him in off Florado Street, and just I thought they were going to beat him up or something bad was going to take I didn't know. Now I do believe her when she said she fell in love with him, even though I think it's in the FBI that would be super frowned upon. But it's like, I did believe her. And then she said she was going to resign because

she had crossed the professional line or whatever. And then she said, I have to learn how to move forward without him, And so do you? Now? Okay? Are you? Are you gonna whisper? Now? I want to? So I want you to. You have to do it. Cannot Here's the thing. We I hope that we can move forward with this show and not spoil it for me. If you can't. I know you guys want to talk about going to ask because here's my problem in a rewatch.

We're rewatching it. So I want to be able to ask about things because I the first time I watched it, I didn't know, so I was like you, Jenny, like I'm just I'm buying this out. I agree, But now I'm like, wait a minute, I have questions should how do I navigate that? And I guess maybe people can weigh in without like being mad at me, because what I can I just ask it and then like, okay, so yeah, poor Jenny, Okay, close your ears. Does Christine

know everything? Maybe I'll ask it like that. I don't know. Maybe she doesn't see I don't know. And somebody on the and somebody on the instagram wrote something that I want to ask you guys so bad because just okay, yes, we don't have to answer. Yeah, I mean people have all seen it. So someone on the instagram wrote, so, you know how as this you may not know this,

but as it goes on, Dylan sees his father. He has like sees his father, I think it graduation and like a couple of other places where he acknowledges that. And now I'm realizing, like was it really him or was that his imagination? Right? Like was he seeing it or was he so like, there are some things that we want to talk about. Who chills but why can't we talk about them as they come? Oh, I see what you're saying. So at the so during the episode

of the graduation, maybe we acknowledge it. Okay, I mean it's just I don't know. I don't know. It's it's hard to make everybody happy in this situation. But for me too, I don't like having spoiled because then and when I watch it, I'm like, I have a colored experience of like what I'm watching rather than just a true like experience. But you're right, I'm probably one of

the only people in Tori. I don't know how you feel, but I'm probably one of the old people that's never seen an episode from beginning to end consecutively throughout the series. So I mean that's pretty normal. It's tough to navigate because everything that comes later. Sometimes I'm like, we have like would you remember, because you're such an inter part of what comes later and the reveal of things. But I love that you don't know because you're truly watching

it for the first time like a fan. So I love that part. But I got to say, like, what is the percentage you guys people are rewatching it now again? But a very small percentage of people who have never in their lifetime see nine two and they're watching it for the very first time. True, yes, here's the example. But what about the new people that are watching it for the first time like that are like, hey, I've never seen you. You never saw the show. It's almost like, okay,

you know the movie The Sixth Cents. Yes, yeah, okay, so there's and if somebody hasn't seen The Sixth sense, my god, don't give that away because that's okay. But imagine if we were doing this show and we did one episode before before we watched The Sixth Cents or the first time, but then if you were rewatching it,

you would watch it completely differently knowing. So that's where I'm trying to navigate this, because it's like the first to do this show for our fans that have been so dedicated over the last thirty years, and they are watching it because they're getting a new take on things

that they never knew about. So right, well, okay, look, some people were upset that we talked about Shannon being late to work supposedly allegedly, but that is the reason they didn't get back together in this episode that we're talking about so to me, it's how do you know that? Because the Internet told me? Then I telled her everything. And my thing is like they were upset that we mentioned the behind the scenes because they be negative about Shannon. It was a fact, so also I left the behind

the scenes. So for me, I want to hear from you because they said I don't like Shannon, and I'm like those I like Shannon. You read it off the internet, it must be true. Well, and I can see now knowing that fact, which I didn't know the first time I saw the show, but knowing that fact now, when I watched this episode, you can literally see multiple mo mons where Brenda and Dylan could have gotten back together or hooked up or kissed or hugged or whatever I

want to say. And I also felt it. I was like, oh my god, they're really coming together here. That would have been interesting. It will And as far as I'm concerned watching it for the first time, that could steal happen like I could, that could happen next week. They don't ever happen. We're not rolling together again. Do they never get back together? And I think a moment or anything, I have no idea. I think she did it? She whispered, Oh, she did. But I sort of love like the idea,

and I'm glad we're having this conversation. Is like, I love the armchair quarterbacking of it because we know things and that makes for an interesting conversation. It's a whole different show if we were watching it the very first time to be on a different podcast. Apparently, goodbye guys, nice nice work. Okay, wait, so Jenny, let me ask you this that I might have been there, But were you feelingly were you feeling bad for Kelly? Were you team Brenda in the episode? I felt for everyone. I

felt for Kelly, I feel for Brenda. I wanted Brendan and Dylan to be back together. I wanted Kelly. I wanted Dylan to be nicer to Kelly. I wanted Kelly to know how to comfort him like I wanted all the things right. Although I thought so good, you felt all of it feels this episode at the end, I loved that moment when Dylan calls and she's asleep but she's happy he called. It's very It's sweet and kind of reassuring, but at the same time, I don't know

what's going to happen. That's a good part. That's what makes you come back for more. People. I'm definitely coming back for more. I thought, I know. I loved this scene where uh Dylan talks to the press and says he is survived by his only son who loved him very much. It was like, oh, God, don't too Oh, I thought you meant because he's survived by Oh, he doesn't know. I don't know. For me, it was that was too close to home too. I couldn't. I was like,

here come the tears again. Yeah. I think this episode is particularly especially hard on you guys because of real life two. Yeah, but let's talk about some of the lighter moments in the episode, because there were a few. Um First of all, I liked it when the guys were like trying to play basketball because that's natural, that's cute and it needed that, like friend levity stuff that was happening. And I thought Brandon was a lot at

the WLSH house and Brandon great friend in this episode. Yeah, he was there, but he wasn't like too in his business. He just was. He seemed to be able to know what to do when when it's okay to be quiet and it's okay to just be in the same room and and then I need I need a favor, and it's like, here's my car. Yeah, it was so weird to do Dylan driving It's Mustang, didn't you feel. I was like, wait, that just looks odd to me because that's Brandon's car. I don't know, but I like to

Kelly called meat loaf retro. That made me laugh, Like I was like, wait, meat loafs retro. Maybe that's why whenever I make meat loaf, which I make sometimes but I don't make it with meat, but like everyone's like, I don't want me loaf? What is? What is meat loof? Got such a bad rap? It realiesn't it just is like retro. It's like to bring it back dish like it was from like they think of like nineteen fifties housewives making meat loaf one dish meal. I feel like

making some meat loaf to net first reason. It has that like connotation of like there's nothing to make, so well make meat loaf. Like it's like, oh, really, who can always have kids being like womp warm you guys, you can make meat loaf healthy. I make meat loaf course, not meat, but meat alternative and then I use keenoa instead of like oatmeal or bread crumbs, so that super food. You can use that as like the the stuff that binds it. Just saying, hold the ford, who uses oatmeal

in their meat loaf? People? What did you just say? People use bread crumbs, people use oatmeal, people use to bind it. But two, but I never heard of oatmeal and not just grisp me out so bad. I have an inappropriate question, but it's not meant to be fluid. What's in the urn? Exactly? If he burned to death in the car, who where to get the ashes? Ashes? And he's not in the car? What's in the hern?

I bet there's nothing in that urn? There's nothing literally, because they showed the urn a lot of you were you? Both of you were you? How did you react when you suddenly see the young boy at the end and you realize, oh, the the other person is a is a thirteen year old boy bawling? That was like an eight year old boy, that was his inner child. I think the internet says, I'll go with whatever you guys like young, but he was really good in that moment, and he was just it was so good. It really

got me going again. I'm nationally brought everything back together and you're like, oh god, that was so good. So wait, there was a weird Okay, so there's one thing behind the thing. I was going to talk about what you know. Okay, when Brandon and Dylan, like Dylan's just come to the Walsh's house and Brandon leaves him to finally get some rest, and he go walks out the door and he closes the light with his hands, so he puts his hand on the wall to the light switch, which, for people

that don't know, we should tell him. When you're doing a scene in your lights are supposed to change in the room, go out, go on, whatever, and you kind of like fake the movement of flipping the switch, but you're that that switch does nothing. It's all handled by the little lighting guys with their remote controls or whatever. So you have to time it, like you have to time when your hand goes like that too, when they flip the switch and turn the lights on or off.

I thought that was fun. And then when you're not watching, they're not watching, they don't see you flip the switch, and then they like you have to go back and do it. Sometimes I think in TV shows you guys tell me. So the light switch goes off, and again it does get dark, but then another sort of light comes up magically. Magically, the hallway light came up behind Brandon, but he didn't flip that switch. You only flip the switch. These are the little things people that I like to

look for. I also love how they say hey, d Hayby almost the whole episode more than normal. Brandon and Villain are like, hey, Heyby, did you guys have any favorite lines that stood out to you? Specifically, make like a tree and leaf? Oh my god, that is my favorite joke ever, says why don't you make like a tree and leaf? It always makes me think back to the future because in Back to the Future, Biff can

never get into any of those lines. Right, So, you guys, make like a tree and get out of here, And they're all, it's make like a tree and leave. I like when Surge the record producer said that I hip you hop I be you. Bob made me happy. But the most profound line for me the whole episode was um when when David said the thing to Dylan in the living room before you know when you can back, He said, the problem is you can't run away from what's in your head, and no true words have ever

been spoken. It's true not to take a totally crazy left turn. But I thought Donna's dress she wore to the funeral was one of the most hepic dresses had, like the cutouts up here. Yeah, it was appropriate for the funeral, Yeah, but amazing, but away it looked good. The bat scene was very poignant, Like, oh my god, the robe in the episode. Those robes were so Shanil robes were super in in the nineties. We all had many of them. Icon It was like white with the

flowers and it's so weird. I don't remember Kelly wearing that robe. I remember Donna having that robe, but you had one that I had, like blue one. I think Kelly wears it multiple times. You've worn it before. That was Kels Donna has I thought a blue ish one of different. Yeah, definitely one. We'll see it. Probably the ropes again. Can we bring those ropes back? Oh my god, and sorry, I'm dumping into fashion. The thing on the back of the back to sins in your shirt in

the back. Yeah, like Eclipse, It's like clip should come back in just a little clarity because I got a little confused. So you know, when they're leaving the house, they're leaving Dylan's house, which, by the way, I had to look up because it's an Altadina. I wanted to refresh my memories, like where is that house? Okay, so, Kelly, you're getting in your car and Jim's getting Dylan in his like weird Lincoln town car whatever. Who is the guy in the other car watching them? Is that guy bad?

Or was he FBI? Like? That confused me? And who was the dude that came in the bathroom. I'm having a heart that the FBI guy that came in that that he ended up talking to with Christine. I guess I started to get still confused. It was a little murky and also very weird, like wide. The other question that I saw on on the on the instagramm er was why did they have to Why did why was it so important to Jack to get the money out

of the trust? If he if what y'all are saying is true and he did know that he was going to be going into witness protection, Uh, none of it makes sense, but a great question. That's a great question. None of it do we ask God? I don't know, like there's no, there's no because I guess I don't know. It doesn't matter to me just because he didn't know he was going to get blown up in my mind

and he doesn't. But the fact of the matter is he did get blown to Smitherings and correct And I think if he by chance was going into witness protection, I think he doesn't know it. So why he wants the money, I also don't know, but I don't think he knows that if he's if by any chance he ever went into witness protection, I don't think he knew it. And then it was pretty how they went was that Alvarado story? And then they're in there and like that

was It's a very filled episode. It was. It was, well, jeez, we covered the crap out of that one people before we go, though, could anybody I tried so hard to zoom in to see what the gas prices were. I was like, I have to know, but my TV apparently doesn't. Isn't a touch screen because I couldn't make it get bigger hard. I'm like, it looked like a dollar. I couldn't see it. I was like, wait, you could look up the gas prices and I wanted to see it

in that scene on the chevron sign. My last really would have dated us my last question before we go. So did it seem like at one point, okay, so Christine says she was going, So my notes say Christine was going to resign. Then I tried to figure out the gas prices, and then I said, is he listening to the nine O two one oh theme in the car or something? Like? There was some music and I think it was when he was in the car, and it seemed like sort of a tweaked version of the

nine theme. Wow, I didn't even notice it. Maybe maybe somebody can go back and lit up it just started to come on that well, to me, what it was is like they couldn't clear music or something, so they tweaked the theme that they had the rights to. I don't know. I literally was like listening or maybe people that made that song like made a little bit of like, you know, background music for that team exactly. So these are my answered questions. Well, I'm glad we answered some

of them. Yeah, next week we have we haven't. I guess it's probably gonna be another heavy episode because you know, this is a heavy time on the show. I don't know. I don't know how I can come back, but they say it will. Uh. Next week we have they meeting us. I guess so, and please let us know how to navigate the whole thing. I mean, I guess we'll try not to work. How do we know? Some people are gonna want it one way, some people want You're never

going to please everybody. It's happened all right here. I want it one way, you guys wanted another way. We can't agree, so what the hell. Yeah, we don't know what to do. Okay. Next week, Season three, episode twenty three, Dukes Bad Boy. Oh, I think it's going to be about Gamblin. Finally we're gonna Dukes last episode, right, finally, Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get to know what it what's been the deal with Brandon's gambling? Maybe? Thank goodness because I,

for one learning question not excited about that storyline. So I'm very happy it's going to end on that note. Have a great week, everybody. I love you, guys,