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Celebrating the Life of Joe E. Tata

Sep 01, 20221 hr 26 min
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With Jason Priestley, Gabrielle Carteris, Brian Austin Green, Matthew Laurance, Lindsay Price, Carol Potter, Charles Rosin, Larry Mollin, Michael Lange and Peter Ferrerio 

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It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, nine O two one OMG ors It's Jenny and Tory and UM. We are going to do something special this week, something very very special. We are all come together for a

tribute to Joey Tata, a celebration of life. So this is the first time in the history of nine O two one OMG that we're merging with the other amazing podcast nine two one Beverly Hills Show podcast and their host Pete is going to co host this with Jenny and I and UM, and we're bringing everyone together to jump on and kind of um celebrate Joey today. Oh well, we are all here together again, which is really great, but I wish it was for different, uh circumstances. We're

joined by Matthew, Gabrielle and Lindsay and Pete. Of course Jason is coming on and yeah we have Jason coming in soon. But thanks guys for all coming together. Yeah, this is great. I mean, it's good to see everybody again. Being the host of the other show, the Beverly Hills Nino to Ano Show with Chuck and Larry, it's an

honor to be here with all of you. So uh, you know, it's felt like we lost a family member for fans, I think, and for you guys is actually like you lost a family member and in a lot of ways. So I'm curious for you Jenny and Tory, like, how is this going for you? This has been a weird time period with a lot of loss and everybody's getting older and things are happening. Yeah. Well, first of all, we wanted to mention that there are two podcasts podcasts, so Pete, you guys have the nine O two on

No Beverly Hill Show podcast. Jen and I have nine O two one o MG. And it really did feel right to kind of merge together and do a simulcast and kind of be with everyone as family and celebrate Joey's life today UM and speak about him. Um are amazing memories that we have and share some laughs, and it would only be right to all do it together. So that's why we're all here, and it would only be right to, um, you know, come together for a good thing. Let's let's do that. We're making UM everybody

here on the on the Zoom podcast. I don't know what we should call it. Um, we're all going to be part of the donation to the Alzheimer's Association in memory of our beloved that gnat So you asked, Yeah, when I heard the news, UM, gosh, it was like, you know, it felt as if a family member had died in and I was so far away and I couldn't you know that feeling of it doesn't feel real. Um And Uh, it just was a really solemn day. And couldn't really explain explain the like energy that I

was feeling. But it was definitely, UM, something that shook me a lot. Tory, What about you? I mean you're very close to Joe. I mean you had a lot of scenes together and stuff, and I'm sure you're very I read your thing that you run on Instagram was beautiful. How are you feeling? I was. I mean, it definitely wasn't unexpected. You know, we know he was suffering for years, um, and and that we knew this was the inevitable. Um, he was five, Um, but you still didn't want it

to happen. He wanted to believe that there was more time, maybe one last hug you could get in um, something like that. So it was still really shocking, and he definitely was like a dad. He was like that fun dad. He was he I said in my Instagram post that he reminded me a lot of my dad. He was very funny and body and um but what always was a hugger and just you know, he was great. He felt old school right, like, yeah, he was the o G like he just it was old Hollywood with Joey.

We just got joined by Jason. Hey, j Hi ja, Hi guys. How is everyone nice to see all your faces? Guys? See you? Yeah? I wish it was under better circumstances. Yeah, for sure, man, you were. I feel like you worked a lot with him. You had. I mean we talked about sometimes on this show, right, like the partnerships of the couples and stuff like that. But Brandon and Nat is a thing. It's just it's a it's a and you guys had a lot of chemistry. I mean, you

guys worked a lot together. How how are you doing? We did? We We worked a lot together. We also spent a lot of time together outside of work. Joey and I, Joey and I were great friends, um outside of work, which which makes uh, losing him very difficult for me. Joey was Joey was a very influential guy in my in my life, in my in my young

life in Hollywood. He uh, he sort of took me under his wing and you know, introduced me to a lot of a lot of a lot of people and showed being around town in a way I um that I wouldn't have had access to otherwise. Uh. You know, he was a very very you know, you know, like Jenny was saying, you know, he was very old Hollywood and he knew a lot of those old the would guys and um. And he was he was, he was, he was very Uh, he was, he was. He was

a great um. He was a great sharer of his knowledge and his experiences and I will be eternally grateful to him for that. Matthew, we have Matthew Lawrence to here. Matthew, do you have any um, good Joey stories for us. Well, first of all, I've been lucky enough to see Cory and Peter lindsay you look beautiful. Jason. It's long since I've seen you. I'll tell you that. Um. But my, uh, Joey, what happened to me when I heard that? You know,

we were the old people on the set. We weren't that old, but we were the old people and all of you, uh youngsters who were going through what you were going through. I think all of us that were older and more veteran felt like a responsibility to all of you. That's the family part that we're talking about. Here's the thing. Joey was one of the warmest, most wonderful people in the world, and we all know that with everybody. There wasn't a time I was on the nine.

There wasn't a time on that where Joey was not hugging me or you, or laughing or introducing somebody to somebody. Not one time in the nine needs I was there. Here's the thing that destroys me. And that's why makes donations the Alzheimer's Foundation knowing this disease. It's not just Joey, it's anybody that has is this The thought that he left us not having memory, not being able to remember how much we all loved him, is the thing that breaks my heart the most. And I can't stop thinking

about that. And I hope at the end he had some claverity about how much everyone absolutely adored him, that's all. I don't know what. There's part of me that wants to believe it. Yet it does take the memories away, and it affects different people differently. But there's part of me that wants to believe that in his soul he absolutely remembers hugging each of us and he felt our love. Yeah, because I think that's the case for all of us.

It doesn't matter where any of us are or what any of us are going through, We're all connected on a soul level because we spent so much, really so much formative time together that we all always know and all you know, and I feel like he did too at the end. I mean, we were so blessed to have that that zoom that you put together, Pete, for all of us to be able to see him and talk to him. Was that a year about a year ago? A year ago? Yeah, and he was still like, I

didn't know Joey at all. Just to be clear, you guys are the cats, and I'm again grateful to be here. But he seemed like even in that zoom, he was still really hilarious and cracking jokes with all of you and talking about things that you all knew and whatnot. He was still with it and got it right. And that was the thing about the disease at that time when we did it, he couldn't remember moment to moment that was happening there, but he remembered all of us,

and he remembered the old times. When I think of Joey, I think it was old. I mean, he was a man who was filled with stories, filled with know how in history, and he had been a part of it all. He'd been around for long time. It was a really good, generous spirit. I was just thinking, like in terms of him being old Hollywood, you know, for me coming on to your show at you know, in the last three seasons,

I was such a fan. And I remember, you know, meeting him first of all, did he not have the warmest smile in the world, Like it just lit up

an entire room. And I remember the thing about him, the old Hollywood thing about him was that he he had a class and a sort of like, um, there's a way that sets used to run where you were grateful to be there, you know, and you and you and you welcomed everyone and you made sure everyone knew everyone else, and and there was a warmth and just a real gratitude that comes with you know, knowing how

fortunate you are working in Hollywood. And it wasn't just his stories, it was just his overall feeling that um, you know, you could look to him for that life center. He was always like the center. He always respected the working. He was always totally prepared every day he came in. He knew all his lines, you know, exactly what he wanted to do. He was super prepared all the time. And you know, that's that's another like old school Hollywood

um professionalism. You know. He was just always super prepared and always really ready to work every day, which was which was which was nice for all of us youngsters to see. Yeah, like what Matthew said, I think it's true, like they did sort of have that responsibility of sort of showing us the ropes if you will, you know, because we were all young and kind of figuring it

out too. And I think there was a there was a lot to that because they, you know, I know, like the other adults on the cast, Like I learned so much from just being around them and watching them and hoping that that professionalism sort of like you know, leaked into my world, and I think it did. I think they had a huge impact on us and certainly Joey. Did you guys remember he would come to set every day. He was always in This is another old Hollywood thing.

He would come dressed, he would have his briefcase like he looked great. Like we would all be like in sweats and our hair and mess like you know, we're gonna get into glam anyway. But he was always like dressed nicely, had his briefcase, walked in like you know. And that's another thing, like you know, it's like when they say people usould dress up to take you know, flights, It used to be a thing like that was on old Hollywood sets. They would always come dress in their

own like best foot forward presentation. Yeah, it's true. I'm curious for you guys. You know, as you guys were rising in this show, it became a super juggernaut and you guys became super famous. Is Joey somebody that helped ground you guys with advice or talk you through when the world seemed like it was, you know, getting carried

away in your in your lives. Was he someone that could laugh it out with you or talk to you or say, hey man, don't worry about that, or sorry, don't stress that or how did how did he handle some of that? He did for me, He gave me tons of advice, um about how to handle stuff all the time. He was very helpful UM for me personally. I don't know if he I don't know what he

did for you guys, Tory, Jenny Jay, I agree with you. Yes, he was always and I feel like because we were young, we didn't know like you know, later on got to know what was happening in Joey's personal life and his struggles, but he never brought that to set. He was always more concerned about us and wanted to know what's going on, talk to me about it, and you know, he would always place his hands on my shoulders. He would bring

me in. He would look me right in the eye, big smile as they talk to me and um, and he did. He would always, you know, talk about the work, talk about the personal aspect of it and what would happen and what was happening. And for like relationships I always had like bad relationships with guys, he would always know and he would always be like, you always had something going on, so I need have someone come in

because I got I got connections, Like I'll do it myself. Yes, yeah, he always just made you feel better, like you could just de escalate any situation. It felt like just by looking at you and smiling and it was just you just got wrapped up in that warmth that was like, you know, uncle Joey, I don't know something about it, lindsay, I'm curious for you, like you came in late later on in the show, and that could be intimidating in

its own self. What was was Joe someone like that would talk to you and make you feel like you've been there since day one. I think he I think because you know, I grew up in this business, so I had been on a bunch of sets, but this was the most intimidating one by far by bar Um and there was something about his presence that, like Jay said,

like there was a professionalism. Um, there was this thing where he just like used being an actor that made me feel like, ah, I know what I'm doing because he's gonna do what I'm here to do and I'm not going to be totally freaked out that everyone here I've watched since I was a freshman in high school. Uh, and he made me feel um, extremely welcome. I think he called me kid, and I think he called me like nicknames that made me feel like I was a

part of the group. You know, he was very aware of I'm sure, having watched all the comings and goings, how a person like me might have felt. So I remember him. I remember thinking he went out of his way to make me feel extremely welcome and you know, valued, Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean definitely. He also, just like I was thinking, all you were talking, lindsay that he he you could tell he loved what he did, like he loved acting. He said, how lucky are we

to be doing this? That was just lucky are we? I know that we're here to talk about and I'm glad, but I feel not to be able to mention Denise and Jessica because I just I have to say, part of all of this is, and I had said this in a post, it's our family, and it's a lot of you know, there are three really important people in different ways. For sure, we've lost a lot of family lately. Jessica Klein wrote so much of the beautiful stuff that

you all said, why don't we talk about her real briefly? Jenny, Jenny, I know you're very touched by all of the stuff that she wrote. She wrote, I choose me, you know what I mean, she wrote some of the most important things that came through the series. Yeah, she just had that feminine sensibility that the female characters on the show really needed. And she just knew what she was doing and she knew how to do it, and there was no discussion around it, like she just took care of it,

you know. And I just felt very um taken care of by her and and protected by her love for the characters that that had been created, and in her desire to keep everybody going in the right direction day. How about you? I, you know, I felt I felt a great loss when we lost Jessica. She was incredibly talented UM writer. I was incredibly likely to work with

her as a show runner. UM for the years that she worked with us as as our show runner or in her unfortunately deceased ex husband Steve Um, they were they were very good for us as as shaw runners. And she was she was you know, she's also and she's also a lovely, lovely she was a lovely, lovely woman as well. Um uh uh and uh you know, you know, my my heart goes out to you know, her her surviving daughter UM and UH and her family. You know, I know that they're they're suffering, UH these days.

You know, her losses felt by a lot of a lot of a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. She touched so many lives. I mean, I think our place in this world is to make a difference. She made a difference in so many people's lives. To hear them speak. It wasn't like, you know, she was a teenager. She was somebody was older and passed away, not old, but older, and yet it was there was the things that about her were so I was really moved and I didn't even know like she really believed in the idea of

service and humanity. Walk. That walk was beautiful. Yeah, that was interesting to learn about all the things that she had done since the show and the impact that she had had in her faith that her you know, how she I remember who told me the story about when she came into town. I don't know. I think it was for Luke's funeral and for his service anyway, and

how she was it was on on us. I don't know what is the right word gap sabbat Sabbath, right, She didn't drive, so they she stayed at a hotel close by enough that she could walk the walk through you know, nature and take that time to like really let it sink in. I thought, I don't know. There was just so many cool things that I had to learned about her after her passing that we're inspirational. She was definitely a fire, Like she was a spit fire,

and I love that about her. Like we talked about nowadays like female bosses, like like, oh, you're a boss, babe. People throw that term loose around. Like back in the day, she was that. Like she was so kind and so funny, but phil was so much fire and just lead the force. Um and her daughter and I were talking after she passed, and she was like, my mom always loved She said about me that you were willing to do whatever, and

she loved writing for that. And so I am so grateful to Jessica because she wrote a lot of the comedy that I got the chance to do and that was really important to me. So it meant a lot. She was amazing. It was look a voice of a generation in a in a way, you know what I mean. For fans like her, her words came through to all through all of you in such a beautiful way. What about Denise. Someone just reminded me the other day that she was at Mrs Teasley was at Donna Martin's bachelorette party.

That's true, And I can't wait to rewatch that episode because I did not remember that. Oh my gosh. I literally can't wait for you to watch them that the ten season I remember, and I think someone said, Wow, Donn and Martin must have been really hard up for friends. If you have to fight your your vice principal from high school to your bachelorette party. No, that's just a testament how cool she was character. You know, Felice was there, this was the bachelor rett party. Yes, and and Mrs Teasley,

who can't wait. It's crazy though when you think about like the loss and we all started with, you know, when Luke passed away so suddenly, and that was so jarring and weird and just destructive, and and then to see now as other people from that experience in that world that we had pass away and and move on like I don't know, there's just like I get goose bumps talking about it, and it makes me a little emotional because sorry, guys, I love you. Yeah, I don't know.

I just I said before, I fucking hate death and I hate loss, but I do I have to believe that. Um, well, I'll be together again, and I'm I'm really glad that I'll be with you guys. Sorry, Okay, it's inevitable. It's a part of life. And we have such a history and we always say this to each other while the fans can watch and be a part of our family. And that was you know, we were in everyone's home, so you are family, um when you've watched us and

now listen to us. But that experience over that ten years was something that we can't ever put in words to anybody else outside of our group because it was an experience that we all shared so like a bond, and Jen and I talked about it that you know, I don't think it was a coincidence that we were all together and we all shared that experience and that journey, and that will always hold a special place for all of us involved that were shared that you know, somewhere

in that tenure experience and if you believe in like heaven and everything, I don't know what anybody believes in. And I don't care. I don't even know what I believe in half the time, but I just I know the how how if it is the way they say it is that Luke was beyond elated to have Joey joined him at that party that that they're having, you know, like it made me feel like he isn't alone, you know. Yeah, well, yes,

fans look at this and watch this. I mean, they're all dealing, we're all getting we all grew up together, right, Jenny. We've said that, like people feel like the fans feel like they grew up and we all grew up together. Like they're all going through your own personal sort of losing their own gnats and their own people, and it's a really challenging time relationships. Whatever they're going through, we're

all at that age. We can't even believe we're at that age that it's us that we're talking about this. It sounds like other people would be having these issues, but we're all having them. I mean, for Jenny, do you have any thoughts about that? I mean, how do people how are you getting through some of these losses and whatnot? To help fans maybe in their own their own struggles. If I'm the right person to ask me, I fall apart. I'm an emotional I'm a very emotionful person. People.

Some people call me emotional. I call myself emotionful because it sounds more positive. But yeah, I don't I don't know if I'm the right person to ask, you know, because you're right, like, everybody's going through stuff and it's you gotta just kind of learn to deal with it as it goes or I don't know. I mean, we'll

always have memories. Like you that's when you take with you, like you have visual memories of almost like you can visualize them in your life and you remember hugging someone or being with someone, and then when they pass away,

that remains. But we're so lucky that through nine two oh we literally have, you know, ten seasons of a show that is like a beautiful love letter to our entire family that the ones we are losing, we're able to see them um and and remember it that way, and the fans get to do that as well, so they're never completely gone. Yeah. I hate the endings of things. I don't like when good things end. I remember when

the show ended. I hated that day. I hate I hate the ending of anything I've recently um experienced lost in my life. I lost my dad, and I feel like a lot of people of our age are losing their parents, and you know, like it just it rocks

to you. But the thing that I just refused to believe is that when like you have an energy as big as a life, as a life force, but that ends the thing that I think keeps me like going and keeps me thinking, especially whether it's that our show you know, but your show was on for so long and ended, or that you know, unfortunately we lose the people love, that energy continues, and I think if you if you don't think of it as being over, it's

just transitioned or changed into a different end, you know, a different who knows what it is. That sort of

helps a bit. Um. It's it's not there's no easy way through it, but I think I think thinking about that energy carrying on is probably helpful that any joining the energy, right, it's just and when you love someone so much, the greed is so much greater, right, So it's like you feel grief and you feel the loss, it just means that you were lucky enough to have that, you know, love experience and We're so lucky because we get to watch the show back and be with the

person as if it were all still together in that those moments in time are frozen forever, and we're so lucky to have that. And I don't know we I think we might have Chuck Rosen joining us. Is that happening? Just to dump on your point though, Jenny, like the fans also always have the show to go back to.

They always have that thing. The work that you guys did is now speaking on such a deeper level because there is that place that they can go back and watch that episode where you know, not paid off Brandon's bookie or whatever it is, and live in those kinds of spaces of like, hey, this is this place. This is the where where I'm good. I can come here and I could watch this and be okay. It's like the work that you guys did in the dedication that you guys put into for all the seasons that you

were there. It's just so appreciative from bands and I tried to tell you guys that as much as I can, because the work still holds up and it still means a lot to this generation and the more of the generations see it the Beverly Hills nine O two and I made a significant difference in people's lives, and um, you should all be really proud of the thing that you did, because it's still here. I'm sure. Then in season one, Jay, you were like, I don't think we're

gonna get past episode seven. You know, I didn't think. I didn't think we're going to get a back nine pick up, tell you the truth. We were all surprised and we got through that first season, but it wasn't a back nine. Then, how how does it even work? We could see any episodes every season? Nine past nine is only eighteen. No, we got we got, we got the part, we got the we did the pilot, and then we got the initial twelve boarder twelve okay, and then we had to get that back not back I

remember that so archaic, right, get the back nine. I've forgotten about that completely. But that math doesn't add up. Right, We did like twenty three episodes, but we also did double up, So does that mean there was like six four? But we're all over now now we're doing we were doing, we're doing thirties thirty two episodes a year. In those double episodes, years, we're doing thirty two. It was crazy. Yeah, And Joey was on for all ten years. He's one of the few of us that was on for all

ten years. And he was in like two hundred and I don't even know how many episodes. That was two hundred something. There's a lot, Jay, Do you remember that episode where he paid your book? Remember he paid it when he paid up Billy Vera. Yes, we just watched the least intimidating book he ever my bookie with the softest hands I've ever touched that voice, that voice, remember,

I don't know which season it was. But finally Joey was added as a series regular, even though he was always a series regular to us, he wasn't contractually a series regular. And then he got to be in the opening credits. He had his own spin in. I remember that day filming that. He was so excited to be included in that. What season was that was? That was that season? Eight? Pet know, I don't I think it's

I think it's sooner than that. I think he became a regular sooner than that, you guys, seven, maybe seven, eight, nine, ten, maybe eight nine times something like that. He was spinning by the time I got there, it was like season seven maybe, Uh, gab Gabriel. I just watched an episode where you had to go do a review of the peach Pit, and you're like a yelper and you're giving because it's a college thing, so you're like giving a really harsh review. But you and Joey do some some

really great comedy. Was he fun to do comedy with? Garbriel? It's fun to work with. To be with Joey was be with Joy what that was really he loved with made it fun and easier. You know, sometimes work with Buddy, you just flow. I know we're being joined by Chuck now. I thought it was earlier, but now I know he's here and Larry. We have Chuck Rosen and Larry Mullen. Hi, look at you. Look at you, guys. I don't know you,

but hello, nice to meet you. I can answer that because he started being a suit when you about Joey was Hi my last year and he and Tori, he was onto it. After about season three. He wanted to know, why aren't I in the credit? I only get there, you know. But eventually he convinced his friends down the hall and he in the series regular and like all you guys, and he was great that he made it and that's where he belonged. And and really hard, right, I mean you the actors, you maybe can learn it too.

He was a character actor and for a character actor to get on and I was looking at his resume and he did every show of the early seventies, mid seventies Lakes, you know, just a lot of shows. But to have ten years of one character to grow and be with this was this was part of his of his lifetime. And and and that with the beauty of it is that he knew it. He was happy, you know, as you're all saying, Chuck, do you remember meeting him in the audition? Do you remember seeing him for the

first time audition. I've been thinking about the audition because it was the first audition that we had. There's an episode two, Every Dream Has Its Price time they went about shoplifting and um and and we we did it on Wilshire Boulevard and Tony Shepherd. It was me and Tony Shepherd because Tony was representing your dad, Tori, and it was it had the chance to be a recurring role. We didn't know if it would because you know, but it had the chance to come back for more. And

there were two actors. It's always Tony Shepherd me and to be young. Uh. There was a woman director who I actually went after, Melanie Mayron to do episodes. And she had a girlfriend and the girlfriend um was the was the director of science having a senior moment here. But she's the one my favorite thing that she did. She's the one that got you to the aerial shot with you on the bed, Jenny, so when you spun over, you know, and that was always in the credits and things.

Always I was like that one the directing move she made. But like the two actors, it was Joey, but the other actors Frank Bortion, do you any of you guys know Frank the joker? Oh my gosh, my portion And Frank Ortion was a more you know, guest star worthy. He was a big name coming in. And the other woman, the woman director, was just referring to him and and and I just looked at it this way, who would I'd rather spend an afternoon with this friend of Duke

Vincent's star. And you know, it was no contest, you know, Joey, It wasn't very many lines, But that sonality was what I It wasn't called that's what we needed, That's what you wanted. You wanted a place. If I was going to try to create a place where all you guys would hang out, then it would have to be a welcoming one. You didn't want somebody who had sardonic insight really run to the table. Larry, you got to work with him in the later seasons. You know, you came

in season four. What what? What are some of your thoughts about about working with joe I was thinking of it. I have two major thoughts. One was the fact that writers loved Joey and we loved writing for the character of Nat. And and you know, by the fifth season, when Cindy and Jim left, there was a space to kind of develop it more. In season six, we went for it, and we we sat there in room said we're gonna give Joey a romantic storyline and and it's

gonna be the one that got away. And and we mined deep into the real Joey's life, like Chuck was saying into his credits, and we found a movie he was in called On Holy Rollers. It was a Roger Corman film, a B film, and we built this whole storyline that this was gonna track the one girl that he really loved who got away, and Roger Corman him and they actually they screened the movie of the Peach Bay after Darks a special night to kind of honor Joy because the gang did not know he was an actor.

And his whole story was, of course, he had that repressive father which we see in the sixties episode, who basically made him give up his acting dream. But we had this this this movie, we're gonna show it and joe and and his girlfriend from back when he's gonna show up. And we did, and Joey has kissing like everybody else, and everybody else gets involved in this relationship and they wind up getting married and having a baby,

and it goes to the end of the season. And and the woman he married, who plays Joanie as a was a friend of mine, Julie Parrish. She was a wonderful gal. I don't know if you guys got to meet her. She was in Elvis movie. She was an Elvis girl, and she was a friend of mine just from a friend of a friend, because she had done Happy Days on the Vernon Shirley also really at it. But Joey could not have been happier. He met the challenge of having his own romantic storyline, and it was

just it was we felt so good about it. The other thing I wanted to say was, you know we we we exploited Joey's character in a sense in season four and Schruff knows this because we had this great storyline for Dylan where he's gonna get scammed out of his money. And in the Christmas episode where it's all starting to go down and Kelly Taylor played by Jenny does not trust these people at all. It's nath who says to Dylan, come on, Dylan, it's Christmas. You have

to trust people. And Dylan does and he gets scammed out of all this. He gets the worst advice I remember telling the last time I saw Joe was that zoo we had and I told the story and he had a big laugh at him, because, yeah, he had the worst for Jenny and Tory. You're doing season four, you get you're coming to it pretty soon, you'll be able to for all. You can see all that play out. Yeah, it's it's good stuff. You're gonna love it. Yeah, Hey, Larry,

did did we screen that Roger Corman movie? Was that the episode where we did the Roger Corman Film Festival? Exactly exactly? It was? It was fade in, Fade Out is the episode. But yeah, we did that one, that's right. I remember that, and Roger came within a You got Roger Corman to do a cameo? Yes, fantastic, we did because because I because I did a Roger Corman movie. And I sent him an email and I was like, hey, Roger, I don't even remember, but I made a movie for

you back in the eighties. I'm directing an episode. And he was like, yeah, sure, I'll come and do it. That's a still around God bless him. Yeah, it was

really cool. Do you guys remember when we saw him at them wasn't really the peach Pit, but it was just a few years ago when they did that event um for bhop up and he came hand to the pop up and I'll never forget because Joey not Roger Corman, correct, but he you know, he he was already starting to suffer from Alzheimer's at that point, and it was we weren't sure what we were going to get and how it was gonna, you know, affect him and how it

was going to go. But I just remember he was exactly the same as he always was, patting, getting a little booty pat in there, give a little extra squeeze, you know, and and and just feeling that love from Joey like it had never changed. Jen and I had the opportunity to work with him again when we did Mystery Girls in two thousand and fourteen, and that was

such an honor. And that was the first time that he really divulged to us, you know, his personal struggles and what was going on, and he said, I'm so nervous and I'm not gonna be able to do it. He was Joey. He showed up like he was awesome on tape day in front of a live audience. He just flashed that smile and everybody was like, oh my crazy,

oh Tory. I mean, there's an episode in the last episode, there's a great scene where you asked him to walk you down the aisle the donna does sorry I connect you to all, don't worry, But I think what's really interesting is the way you asked me. I feel like fans or when I watch back that moment. It's such a powerful moment because we want that, we want to see Nat incorporated into the end of the series in

a way, and it's a really touching moment. Do you remember doing that and what was that like to shoot and do, especially at that time when the show is coming to end, right, Um, So, the writers had talked to me about it, and you know, since my dad on the show had passed away, they said, who would walk Donna down the aisle? There was an idea of police walking her my mom down the aisle, and I immediately said, are you open to Joey walk you meet

down the aisle? I feel like that's the heartbreaking moment, like she lost her dad, but this is her second dad really because throughout the years, that's what he was liked everyone, that's what he became. And you know, personally, Joey and I were so close. I was like, this is a real relationship on an off camera like this would be an honor for him to actually walk me

down the aisle. Um And they were excited about the idea and wrote that in so and I think we were actually because I think a lot of people were like, that's kind of weird that it was filmed at the peach Pit after dark. I think for some reason we ran out of time were so it was supposed to take place in the peach Pit, but um, they were on the set for peach after dark. We had to shuffle things around. So that's where Donna asked him. He came over and Donna asked him to walk her down

the aisle there. Oh, I know, I know why. I know why you weren't in the peach Pit because they because they had struck the set. It was already gone. And I'll tell you because this is what I was doing. And yeah, I was doing a pilot for Fox at the time, a kind of a low budget. Um, you were really low bunk, even a lower budget than the first season of nine. It was and and and so

I needed a set. I needed a stage, and Paul gave it to me because you were already struck it and were filming when I don't know if you guys remember this Rosen World crashed the wedding, Skaron and I and all three of my kids who really wanted to be there. We're there. We've got the pictures to prove it. And when I left the Hilton, he was at the Hilton, right the Beverly Hilton. Yeah, I drove to the back to uh our our Calvert Street and ready for the

night shoot that we were doing the stage. That's how I know. But it was the peach Pit after Park where we filmed, not the original peach Pit. You just blew my mind. I did not know the peach Pits set had been struck already because that was what we had two more episodes to go or was it episode before the finale? I did a hundred three episodes the Spelling Company, I know, they don't they just okay, wipe

that off the books trail. Come on. I think it's cool that it's at the after dark and it's not at the Peach but I know, maybe it makes more sense. But I like the intimate and that's not wearing his outfit. He's in he's in the street clothes and he's just having a conversation. You know, it's not you're not going to the diner to get to ask him, you know, lindsay, do you have any kind of memories of, you know, any scene work that you did with him or anything

like that. I think you know, Ian and I did a lot of scenes in the peach pit when we were coming up with our schemes and plans for the tabloid that we wrote for the Beat. I don't really remember remember the specifics of the scenes, but I remember loving,

you know, the moments. For me as an actor, sometimes that I remember the most are the in between the scenes and you get to go and sit in your chair with your name on it, and you get to chat with the other actors, and I have I have vivid memories of sitting with him on the stage waiting for a you know, a lightning change or you know,

to hit our marks. And you know, like I said before, I just I really liked being in his presence because he was a pro, and he was funny, and he always had stories, and I just I felt, you know, happy to waste some time with him on those on those stages and dark sets. You know, we're also joined by Michael Lang. Michael's so excited to see you. Any episodes of the show did you direct, Michael No, I think twelve. I was believing obviously one of our favorites

because we loved you so much. Oh my god, thank you. I always Michael. Whenever there's something that's very complicated. It seems like they're just like the multiple days, there's gonna be a lot of action. They're just going Michaelang, He'll figure it out. Yeah, I was. You guys were my favorite show. Whenever I do panels or whatever and they

say what was your favorite show to work on? And I always I always say nine o two when I was was the It was the greatest show because it knew what it was and it knew what it was supposed to do, and it knew that I knew what it was and knew what it was supposed to do, and it was about things that were important to human beings. So, and you guys were also great. I mean people would say, oh, were there any stories? I would say, the only good ones.

I mean, you guys were professional and always prepared and fantastic, and it was a great show to work I loved it. Do you remember, like what episode uh that stan out to you that you directed with Joey? I don't know. I mean not really because his parts were always relatively small. I mean when I remember, the most was the one with the where which we did which which had the the fair whatever with all the rides and whatever. Yes, Mr Wash Coast of Washington. Yes, exactly, Michael. I was

just out. I was just out addressing the California Coastal Commission. And they meet up in the top of Malibu Canyon where where they have a meeting in and all that, And just down the road was that Suker College. Yeah, that's crazy. But I actually was getting sort of thinking about today. I thought of a story about Joey that completely you know, captures him in my mind. And here it is. And first of all, he was one of the very few people they called me Mike, and it

was fine with me. But uh so, I had just gotten a new car, which I was very excited about, and it had gotten a little bit dirty, and I was, you know, riding to the set. It was whatever, you know, I think it was a slightly later called, and I decided to get the car washed. So I left a little earlier. As a director, I would always get to the set a half hour before crew call always. Um

So I figured, okay, I have enough time. The car wash was interminably slow, I mean ridiculous, and I'm pouring sweat. I mean, I'm just so exasperated. Come on, guys. Um So, finally, you know, they get the car done, and I had like ten minutes to get there before crew call, and it was probably a nine minute drive. So I go, I'm probably driving like eighty miles an hour down Ventura Boulevard. Um, not very good. So I finally I screech up and

I just parked right we were. The first scene we were shooting was in the peach bit, so I screech up and park right in front of this basically in the set. So you know, I'm the director who can't market. Said, Joey is out there right, and he know, you know, we've talked this. You know, it was probably the fifth or sixth episode, so we had talked and I'm always sort of proud that I always get there early, and so I'm sure I mentioned that. So he's out there

and he's going like this right. So not only did it not bother me that he did it, which normally, like an a d ever did that to me, I would throw them off the set, but like, it's Joey, So how can you get mad at this guy? And he's right? So I jumped out of the car. He had already gotten all the actors assembled right and and made sure, you know, I think I might have called

the a D to say I might. It's gonna be pretty close anyway, And he was just so sweet about it and just you know, he did that sort of fake thing. It was just such a memorable moment of him and how he could just sort of he could just be He was such a you know, like an authentic person. He was a great guy, really great guy. And I hadn't had that memory until you know this. It was pretty cool. We we've talked a lot of business and onset about Joey. We haven't talked um offset

with Joey. But I was lucky enough to be able to go to quite a few Playboy Mansion parties with Joey talk yes, and he was he was like the life of the party, Like he was the king there, Like he was friends with half. He was old Hollywood, right, so you know he was there and he was always so respected there. So I just have those memories and being able to go and be like, oh my gosh, like not like Donna drunk at prom, Donna drunk in the Playboy Mansion with nat omg. You know, we just

always had the best times. And yeah, that was always a standout and I know, jenn and I have mentioned on the show, like we always look forward to like late nights. We'd be filming with the group Friday night, and you know sometimes we put in plastic cubs and like, sorry, Chuck, Larry and and Michael, you shouldn't be listening to this, but you know, we'd have some alcoholic beverage. It was

like nighttime. We'd have one big group scene. We each had like one line and then we're like we're okay, um. But Joey and that infamous briefcase that he had would pop it open. Always had like little mini bottles. He'd have like a makeshift bar in there. This is after we were all legal. But like, yeah, we could go and be like, O great, yeah we'll have some. So like Joey's room was like the fun room to go into. You know, he just should have come it. You guys

were on the set doing that. You could have come into Paul's office about then it would be no m Joey always had that too available, But you know I didn't. I didn't want to call everyone out. Okay, wait, so you're saying we could have merged parties between us. Jenny, did you get to go to any of those kind of cool parties with with with Joe I didn't I think I was having a baby or something. You don't really want to hang out at the Playboy Mansion when

you're like eight months pregnant, fair enough? Yeah, um, you did get to have a couple of experiences, though it's some rap parties with him. Like we we definitely like had fun with him at rat parties. Oh yeah, he's the guy we wanted to hang out with him. Like, Yeah, it wasn't weird at all that he was a lot older than us. No, not at all. He was so fun. That's why I felt it was important to bring up

that part of it too. While he was like someone we definitely looked up to on said, he was so professional and so kind and helped us with our personal problems, Like he also was like that fun guy to go out with and it was like no age difference. Yeah, wait, Lynce, did we ever go out with Joey? I was just trying to think. I was like, was he with us that night at the sushi restaurant when I fell off the table and pulled the pot of plant out of the thing. Don't believe he was to hear that story.

I know, I don't care if he was there or not. And also, by the way, I didn't know you guys had brief cases of bottles of things on the set. You didn't let me in on that until I think you're back. Well, maybe around the time of the Donna's bachelorette party and Mrs Teasley was there and just to come like full circle and you and we had real, like lives jello shots. We had jello shots. I know it was not a little this I know imber party, but I don't have no idea I was being honored.

I don't remember, okay, good and I remember everything trying to save my line like it was probably who made jello shots? You did? I did? I made him. I want this so much. Someone made jello shots, but it wasn't probably it sounds like something you would do it. Yeah, of course. I just want to give Larry and Chuck a chance to talk about Denise and Jessica too, because we had talked about them earlier, and of course you both worked obviously with Jessica. You worked side by side

with her through the years. Chuck, do you want to talk about Jessica Klein? Yeah, you know, we had gets Gabby, he's not not here. We did remember the other girls. I don't know if you I think you both talked to him. You know, the girls did the Blaze podcast and were they they staged a show when we really did the Donna Martin Graduates episode at the Fine Arts Theater in front of like eight hundred people, and I played that insufferable superintendent. And Denise Dallas was in it.

She played Mrs Teasley and and you know, and and uh and in any way, um, that's it was so much fun because, you know, as Pete knows a little bit, you guys got to hang out on the set with Larry and I. We were in the writer's room or I'm talking production with our director friends like Mike Goland

and Dan Addis and whoever else. And so, I you know, wasn't able, you know, to to actually even know the kind of regular and and we're with us until we did this podcast here and having that great experience getting to work with her as an actor, for God's sakes, you know, so and uh and Jessica, I mean, I

don't think that. I mean, and we've talked about this in our podcast, you know, I don't know if you guys felt this, if you've talked about it ever, you know, Darren announces he's doing another series, and why don't you just yank out my heart? You know, I mean, he was a huge part of the production and what are we gonna do? How what do we? And and Steve and Jessica and I and Karen really resolved to make season three the best one we could possibly do without him.

And so you know that was Jessica, That was that was That was a full major year, you guys know it from going to Paris to the Triangle car blowing up to graduation. What a thing. And you know, so that Jessica and Steve were there every minute of that and Mr Hot and was really comforted to see you there that day, Jenny. I gotta say though, real quick, sorry that to date, we hear this all the time. Season three is by far the fan fave season. Pete,

are we wrong? Everybody? Does? I actually like season four more? But that's just me. I'm sorry. I don't need to put my way my thoughts in. But season three and three and four, that's what everyone says. Yeah, season four had Mullen. You know, it's pretty hard to stop that. Larry Mullen, Right, yes, Larry, do you want to weigh

in on Jessica? You know, you know, I came in in season four, so Jessica and Steve was at the height of their powers, and uh, you know, Jessica was really, really bright, and you know, she understood how to frame his story and she was basically we've talked about the poor, but she was the go to person to pitch the story to, you know, to Mr Spelling, you know, because that's a you know, a terrifying aspect. We got it. Now we've done all this work, We've gotta not present

the stories to Mr Spelling. Of course he wants to know what Donna is doing first, but she knew that, she knew to do that. But but now it's all our all our our our goodies are in her, you know, in her in her bag basic and she would always do it. She would be brilliant at it, and that that was her strong thing. The other thing, you know, se her were there. She was the typest. Yeah. Also

the network too, and the network you weren't friendly house. Yeah, they were ready to oh, that one's not gonna work. So you know, we had and she was great at that, you know, she had a great grasp and it's just it's it's tragic because she was young, you know. I mean it's kind of upsetting, you know, but we loved it. We got a chance to you know, we had to chance to kind of reunite with her and all the other people with her too over the last day a

couple of years. So you know, there's that Wow, this is so nice to get together and talk about Joey and Jessica, Denise. It's it's good. Oh, Chuck, we have a question for you about Denise because we were trying to figure this out. So how did the role of Mrs Teasley because originally we saw she was in it as she was with the twins, the twin testing that episode or something right, as someone else, and then she came back as Mrs Teasley? How did that work? And

did you plan on her being recurring? I mean that part grew and grew and grew. Was that because of her personality or how did that come about? Yes? Yes, it actually was Tori. She she you know, and I had to be reminded of that, but it was you know, every once in a while, Um, Diane Young would come in and say, remember this actress did only this part and you really liked her, and she did well, and she would like to come back. And I think that's

that's what it was. She wanted to do it, and we knew and you know, with it with with Denise is quality. Particularly then she's being and very much like Karen and my French Um the Janice who who was the real life Mrs Teasley that was her last name was Teesley. And and but anyway, uh, and we know well well, but also I don't really lovely speaking points and you know, with the principles in a lot of the different schools, you know, there's assemblies, and it's the person.

We knew she'd have great commands and um, and we were you know, and I'm not ashamed to say this at this point. You know, we we weren't just like we had Henry at the Beach Club and Denise. We we knew, you know, here on our main cast we didn't have people of color, so we also really looked to bolster that and he became such good friends of the show and and of all of you. Clearly, Yeah, hi, Karen, Karen Rosen, you were just talking about Denise. But you

know what, if you remember this isn't for Joey. God he was. He was always very nice to me. I think the ladies will remember this. And I think I speak for Jessica. I love a salam um that he was kind of flirty, you know, he was like um and such diplomatic. It was like a rap party or you know, something where there was alcohol available. You know, then I would be sure to have a long conversation with with Joey, very close, very close quarters, a long conversation.

And you know, he never acted disappointed in the outcome. But you know, I think he was. I think he was. He was very friendly, let me just say that. But we loved him. He was great. He was. It was, you know, a pro, a veteran actor. Great to have with the young folks. And it was fun to write for now. It was fun to write for him, you know what I was thinking relative to Karen with are writing for Joey, and and it was one that was

so important. And when when when Brenda, when we did Brenda go to the peach pit and be Laverne, you know, which was a crazy notion to have her dress off and be that character and One of the reasons it worked is because Joey was, you know, as the owner

of it, wasn't Paul. He just went with it. Oh here's this crazy kid doing it, and and going and sometimes looking back at that episode and you guys doing your I think you were the choreographer of that tory of of breaking up as hard to do whatever you were doing that did that one in there at least bringing up that was a different one. But um, anyway, you know that light quality that that he could bring, that he made it a place you wanted. You wanted

to be in the peach pit. You wanted it was our version of cheers, everyone knows your name, you know kind of thing. It was also a spot where they would freaklent. That was one of the places we could sometime to have a hole cast scene in the peach pit or multiples a lot of people in there, and those were I was just saying this to somebody else this morning, that when the whole gang got together, everyone's

individual I'm just gonna say star quality. Their charisma was magnified and amplified by being all together, and it was like more than the sum of its parts. And it was fun, really fun to watch, you know, in person on the set, I just felt very privileged when I was that um and then teach it was one of those locations where it was. But that's that episode with Leburn.

That's an example of one that the network didn't I didn't care about so much, but the fans really loved, and Joey would always tell me that that was their favorite episode. They would come up to people would tell him that was my shavorite, so he would always give me that compliment. Always very sweet to me. Um Yeah, non really to Jenny Tory lindsay, did you guys ever eat a mega burger? What is that? What is Oh my gosh, you just read my mind. I was literally

just thinking about omega burger. Well, I mean I would love to have one. I don't know where I would get that, but but but did you get it? You can get it from Fat Burger. That's where we got it. Okay, so I'm going to go to Fat Burger. They would literally pick up Fat Burger that morning and plate them. Yep,

that's a mega Fat Burger. Ken would have done that. Yeah, but you can't think of the peach Pit without thinking of Nat like they're one and the same they go down in history together and that the uniform and it's this remarkable what an impact that character did have on the whole, like you know, sphere of the show and how big it was. But it always came back to everybody knows the peach pit. Everybody knows Nat Yeah, Chuck,

who named it the peach pit? I believe it was Charles right, which because it was after the Apple Pan. That's how I remember and why the peach pit was that in honor of the apple po it was the apple Okay. In fact, when they told them this is what we were basing it on the location, people, I went, I looked at it, and they built it on the set the same way, with no tables because doesn't happy just the counter? Yeah, and then they had to add

the tables. Yeah, because well, everybody was very happy when we just built the counter because that's all we could afford to build. And white peaches who picked peaches who like the peaches, well, Apple Pan, peach pitch. You know, it just came to him in a moment of if I could get inside the mind of a writer, I would love it because that this doesn't come to my mind. Apple Pan Larry talked about Larry my mind, be careful.

You know, there's something should talk about. Didn't Joey have this plan to franchise the Peach picture, Yes, and I think it was one of the you know, he never really got it going. I know, it really haunted him a lot of ways because it ran just some problems. But that was kind of going for a while in the middle seasons. He was gonna have this thing and all over the world. Yeah, I think Iron was Wasn't

Iron involved with that whole idea? You maybe you know who it was, the you know the guy, Yeah, the guy whoa his buddy. The rat pack was their deal. I want to switch because Carol Potter has joined us here as well. Cal Hello everybody, you see all your faces YouTube, Jenny h He's all shared some really great stories about Joey and just our memories of him. Would you like to share with us? Yeah, he had a lot of stories too, he was I had had a

lot of stories. But you know, during the show, we didn't um we the parents didn't hang out at the Peach bit, surprisingly, but I ran into him at a at a benefit. This woman who had a terrible experience with lyme disease and nine O two on oh was one of the things that helped her get through. And Joey happened to be there, and so we we had a great time and did another Yeah yeah remember that

very interesting, And then we did another. We went to New Jersey for one of those um celebrity confidence things and um it was you know, those things can be so so wearing. But it was great to have him there and we could just bounce stuff off of one another and was good company. Um. And what a devoted father. I mean he talked about his daughter all all the time. His world just revolved around her. She was Kelly was basically raised on the set of nine O two and

now his daughter. She was always there growing up. I had forgotten that that's true. I remember now she was little when we met her, little little. He was crazy about her. Yeah. How old was she when when the show started? Oh my gosh, gosh, how under ten? I don't have yeah, definitely like yeah wow. Speaking of the peach fit, I had a really weird, like meta meta

moment when my kids um school fundraiser this year. The theme was nine ohs oh for nine, which was the zip code of the school and it was a nine two themed fundraiser and I had to go to the fundraiser and everyone it's just like, you know, there were just a lot of nats. There are a lot of nats there, and just tell you that did you dress this Janet? Well, my husband wanted to be Steve, and who's like, just go as you and I don't know, I don't know how to nail this. No, that's a

really good idea. Yeah, And I don't even know if half the moms knew I ever saw on the show, but I wanted I was Berda and my my blonde friend was was Kelly, and we wore the same prom dress. I want to see that. That's great. I think Jason had his daughter had a thing where she had a dress, a dance, yeah, dance and nine theme dance at her school too. She's probably really popular that night. And yeah,

there are pictures of her dad there. So crazy. And the point to makeup, just to mention, is that in the various stages of nine two that came back, they always brought Nat back. Right in the in the Little w version, they brought Nat back and he had some like coffee shop, peach pit which is just really bizarre. But but he was there. I mean, so did you get to reconnect with him, Jenny when you when you did that, I wasn't on that. You weren't on that.

She's joking, No, I'm joking. He wasn't on it when I was on it. I was only on it for how many episodes? Two? Just like three? I think it is an inside joke that we were talking about the c W version and Jen was like, well, I don't remember that much. I was only on three episodes. I was like, I'm telling you, you were on a lot of them. And then we googled it together and she was on twenty two episodes. I was gonna say, like character, yeah, piotal.

She probably wasn't on the episode. Was he only in one episode? I think it was on one episode. That's so cool though, that they did that. You know, I wouldn't I don't would have remembered seeing him there, and we would have absolutely, of course had him on b H nine O two and oh, but we knew, you know, he was already diagnosed with Alzheimer's and suffering, and when we saw him at the peach Pit at the pop up afterwards, he in fact said to us, you know, I want I want to be on it. We're like

second season. If it goes a second season, of course you're going to be on it. And then it didn't. Yeah, it should be. There should have been a second season. Sorry, I had to tell you. Can I just pipe in and say to you girls, you did such a perfect job. I thought you did this, Thank you. It was so clever and so well done. We had fun, right, Carol, that was That was my best day of filming in my entire career. Oh my god, we had so much

fun that that was such a great day. It was so nice that Jason was directing and we basically were just hanging out together all day on the set, right because we're all sitting there, there was barely of any blocking. Yeah, Carol played our theory, and there was such a different experience than being like teenagers on set and in our minds, you know, Carol was the parents, and now it was like we were all peers and we were sitting there and we got to know Carol on a different level.

We're like, oh my god, what were we missing all these years. You're so funny, You're so cool, Like we should have been hanging out with you. Well, I was just it was thrilled to hang out with adults. You guys become um, you know, that's very special. That's very special. Thank you. And Joey actually got to see a lot more of that, didn't he, Because he was on the

whole ten years, wasn't he. So he got to be with you as you sort of grew into more of an adulthood, right, and all of us kind of we were always all at the peach pits, so he got to be with all of us all the time, which one you didn't really get to have that. Well, we had you in the living room, living room, and of course there's a last episode of season one, you know, going away late Ye that parents were there, came to

the peach right, that's right. So yes, occasionally we showed up at the peach bit and wait the second you Carol, But you know remember the episode where house um, where Jane were went to the cam all karaoke client put the karaoke machine. Everybody that was early karaoke there was, you know in the United States and you got guys were doing it down in Koreatown a lot. You you were cutting edge on the karaoke scene. They're cutting edge

on everything. By the way, really we talk on our podcast all the time about nine O, two and O the stories everything connected to it, um, talking about the environment even back then, like it was all so like cutting edge of what would like end up you know, being huge now that everyone talks about the topical you know, issues we dealt with. Well even so, the one thing is, Michael, this is more for you. Um. We saw this episode, second one we did with uh when the Joey got casting.

In fact, um, it had to do with shoplifting. And I'm looking at I haven't seen it since its air. That pet confirmed this. There's a whole passage they started the girls are sitting around talking about white privilege in talking Wow. So you know it was like we really were in some of this cutting edge uh political discourse here. That's that's pretty amazing. I think I need to go watch it again. Now. That was the second episode chup,

not after the pilot, but the second season. First when you met Dylan, then I guess the second one you met Nat and you know when James and I whenever there was like an adult on the set usually glombed onto the adult like really connecting with Joey in that. In that episode, we talked about sometimes on OMG, we talked about how the things that are show got some of the things that are show got away with, saying

that you can never get away with Oh my god. Yes, they stick out like red flags now, like things that people would just freak out about these days. Yeah, and it's interesting to see how how we got away with it and how wasn't it wasn't such a topic of conversation back then. Well, it's it's really interesting. You know. I taught for a couple of years of U C l A. And I wanted to do like a history of network programming, and I started, I want to see if I could get a shook class like that together.

And one of my favorite shows of all time, Karen Knows It's his Hill Street Blues. Nobody had ever seen anything like Hill Street Blues when it first aired, and today it is unwatchable. It is so sexist and racist and vile. And we were sitting there with the director, a fine man named Bob Butler, a really classy individual. I actually did a pilot with him for ABC at one point and really enjoyed the experience. Immensely and he

was embarrassed, like like turn it off. It was it was a different country and we got away with a lot of stuff. Yeah, this has been great, guys, catching up and seeing all of you and reliving this stuff. You know, I mean this all three people that I've gotten. I got to know Jessica. We had Denis on our podcast too, and and we did that zoom with with Joey and it was really it's been just great to be part of this universe. And I know as a fan, like as I said to you guys earlier, like you

really made a difference in your work. And um, I think a lot of people are looking for a place to go right now when they're dealing with their own loss and whatnot. And the fact that they have Beverly Hills Nino too and what we were just talking about is so important because it's a place that is always there for them. So um, it's it's really beautiful. What you guys did in this conversation has been really awesome too. Yeah. Well, Pete, we have to say thank you to you also for

bringing a soul back together. I mean this has led me to appreciate this whole experience on a whole other level. I mean getting to know people again. Yeah, thank yeah, well, thank you Pete. We also have a message UM that was recorded from Brian Austin green Um talking about Joey, So we want to go to that now. Joey was around the entire time. He was He was one of

the main voices on the show. I mean, he was the He was definitely um a heart and soul and what it is we did, and and fans really looked forward to seeing him and seeing seeing the moments that he was in, and he brought so much light to to what we did. UM. Our show was a teenage drama and and and the character of Nat wasn't necessarily

a part of that drama. He was He was the the joy and the escape I think for people watching the show, UM, just because they had that chance to then get away and sort of laugh with him and smile with him. He had such a great energy to him, and he readiated so much love and enjoy that you couldn't help but smile when you saw him or you were around him. Personally, he was. He was an amazing man. He really was. Uh. Denise Dows same thing. She she

was fantastic. Um. She was so professional when she got to set. She was so kind, she was so generous. UM. And then Jessica, I mean, she's what a force she was in She was in every episode just writing her heart out. And she was so good at listening to all the actors that were there and whatever notes they had and whatever thoughts they had and incorporating them, um without letting us uh mess it up, you know, which which is an easy that's an easy thing to do.

I mean you get a bunch of kids in there who all of a sudden think they're awesome, and then you know, they're like, oh, I can write a script, and it's like you can't. Yeah, it's definitely not that easy. Um. Joey was. Joey was one of those guys though that no matter what was going on in his life, he would he would share it openly. But he was very optimistic. He Um. He never ever brought things to set with a sense of woe is me? What am I gonna do? Um?

You know I need fifteen to step off set and go do like he just he would just sort of rise above everything and uh and smile through it all. And he was really positive in the way that he dealt with life, and then for us as a as a young cast, I think it was just so helpful having someone as seasoned as he was and as kind and as thoughtful as he was, uh, that that we saw every single week. I mean we were we were in the peach pit almost every episode of of you know,

ten years of the show. He um. So, I I had no idea who he was. I had no idea who Aaron Spelling was. I was like, I was young. I was really outside of the world of television at that point, you know, I was. I just didn't I didn't know all the ins and outs and the connections and all the people that had done it. Um, Joey was. Joey was honestly, amazingly kind from the very beginning. He was never anything but loving and sweet. He never uh, he never had a sense of like, you know, hey kid,

let me show you how to do this. You know. He he always spoke, which I really appreciated. He really spoke from a place of this is what I've experienced, um, but it may not be what you experienced. So you know, it's you've got to make your own choices, and you you have to love your own life and you have to find your own way through it. I can. He would help whenever he could. He would sort of take your hand and guide you through it a little bit.

But he was never, um, he was never BOSSI He was never never that guy that was like, I've done all this and you know my way is the right way now, because I've lived at all. And he lived. He had lived a long life at that point. I mean he was when we started, he had done a lot of stuff. He had been in the business for

a while. He had worked with a lot of people. Um. I mean if for fans of his, if they go back through his body of work and go back through his IMDb page, it's literally it's like he's it's a who's who of people that you've ever heard of, and Joey has worked with all of them, I mean just every single person. Um. But he was amazing. He made He just brought so much life to what to what he was given. It wasn't he wasn't necessarily written the

best stuff. I mean he was you know, he was the guy that owned the peach pitt And so we would in sometimes and he had very repetitive you know, Mega Burger to Mega Burgers. But you know it's like it was sort of yeah, it was started the same stuff. We're going vanilla today, are we going? We think it with Strawberry um uh, the Peach Prize fresh um. So uh. You know, he didn't have a lot to work with sometimes and he uh and it never showed. He never he never complained about it. He never was on set

going I can't believe what I'm saying this again. He just every single take, every single run, was just the consummate professional um. And he was just a great guide for I felt for a young actor like myself to um to aspire to be on some moveel. I mean he really he really set the tone for me of he and and Luke really set the tone for me of the type of person, the type of life that I wanted to live in, the type of person that I wanted to be no matter what was going on

in life. And he was. He was an amazing man. It's so interesting to see how we all have the same perspective. We all had our own separate experiences with Joey and with Jessica, and with Denise and with Luke, but we but everybody's stories are somehow we've together the same and that's how you know that you're dealing with just a really genuine, authentic person Um and we're all so blessed to know him and work with him. And it's just been an honor getting together with all of

you and talking about him today. It makes it feel better somehow to get to share our stories and remember together and his memory and his memory goes on through our stories and our shared experiences, and that when people a past, that keeps them alive, right because we'll always talk about what they meant to us and be able to rehash things and they're just it's just like they're right there with you again. Yeah, thank you guys, Thank you so much for all it. Love you guys, so

good to Hi. Hi everybody, Hi, see you soon, do you soon? We needed that, we had to be with everyone that was that helped in a You and I have been talking through the loss of everyone and especially Joey Joey's passing most recently, but it's so nice to be able to have that our family or nine to a family together and to see them for everyone listening. We got to see them here on Zoom and UM and hear all the stories and be able to connect, like you know, put all of that together. It was

really special. Yeah, thank you for everybody for making it happen for us and for all the fans and everybody that's listening. We um, we love doing it for you. So UM, I'm glad we all came together. And again this podcast of everyone coming together, we are donating and Joey's name to the Alzheimer's Association. UM, so please go ahead and donate there as well, UM, and Joey's name, and and anyone that you know or have loved that you lost that was suffering with that disease. We encourage you.

Thanks guys, we love you, Thank you, and I love you. Jenny Garth, I love you too,

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