BE BE BE MY LOVE (S3, E6 "Castles in the Sand")

need to bring this back. You guys want to talk about an o MG. Yeah, Brian Austin Green is having another baby. Well he's not having it, but he was having a player in it. I'm so excited for Sharna and Brian. This is this is awesome and technically not to bring it back to me and our connection, but now we'll both have five kids. Five kids. I even think of that. Not many people have five kids and the two of you have five kids. It's kind of crazy.

Did you what is it? Okay just admitted? How did you feel when you heard I guess he has so many kids that you're like, what's one more? Um? I felt like, why didn't he tell me. Now I felt like, oh, she's so young and beautiful and wants to have a family and that, you know, it's just a natural progression in their relationship. I mean I haven't spent much time with with him or him and her at all, really,

so I don't know them well. Interestingly, we never even we're in the same room with him and Megan and they were together for fift years, Like right, no, no, never have you ever met Megan like separately randomly. I worked with Megan on a series a long time ago before they be together. Before bag yep, I met her. I met her at some wedding. I don't I think it might have been one's wedding. You did at I's wedding to Aaron, Okay, yeah, right, but it was very brief.

Was Brian at the wedding, Yeah, with her there? Tor wasn't there. I was not at the wedding. No, So you're right, you have been with Megan and Brian together. So see, I I only have one perspective, was hearing, you know, Brian's timeline of it, and in his I never saw them together, and he always said like, oh, you know, you guys, you're gonna spend so much time together. When we did the reboot, he was like, you know, I was like, I can't believe I've never like hung

out with Megan. He was like, you will, but now we gotta be like, hey, we gotta hang out with Sharna. Shara's super cool. I've met her. I've heard that from everybody. She's awesome. She is really awesome. Should should I admit in our group text? I'm going to just admit it because I don't. At first, so basically, we knew someone was having a baby, but we didn't know who. So

in our group has you guys? I got like a little like sad you should when I thought it was I am, oh, because you didn't know who it was. You thought you knew somebody was pregnant, but you didn't. I yes, because we're all going in the text. And then did you guys see my text when it was Brian? I was like, Oh, I'm weirdly relieved, Like I don't. You're hilarious. You're just a little too close, a little so takeaway here. There's still a chance, sugarman, there's still

a chance. I got no no babies. I'm telling you. I think fans sometimes might feel that way if they're like, oh wait, like this is so bad to say. This is I did not admit this, but like, do you ever have a crush on someone that you're like a little happy when they're divorced? Oh god, I can I can't think, Like like when Brad and Angelina splitted up, I was like, Oh, maybe there's a shot for me in this life. I'm not really. Oh man, look god,

I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'm so sorry. While we're talking about Brian, we should also acknowledge the fact that last week we said that he David lost his virginity on the show to Nikki, but that was not right. Two weeks ago, I think it was two weeks ago we left it up. So basically I was holding some grudge. I was holding a little gru towards her. And it wasn't Nicky. It wasn't even her, not Ariel apparently. Well we haven't seen that episode. I'm looking forward to that,

But everybody, it wasn't Nikki. She didn't do it. I had a weird like moment when you guys were saying it, because I was like, something's an't right, Like they're wrong, but I don't want to correct them. How did I mess that up? Because I am telling you guys in person, I was super threatened if data barren, like there was something and I think, here's the thing I just remember. And she kind of confirmed this. She was very like into rehearsing and like she and Brian was young, like sure,

I'll rehearse, hot young girl. And I was just I was like, wait, why is she want to rehearse? Nobody rehearses on the set. I was like, oh, she must like him. So I was really threatened. It was all in my mind, and she was it was just for the art, I know, for her craft. So Tori, I know we're jumping ahead, but Ariel was played by and she's kind of famous Carrie were is that how you say it? You? H r E And she's very very spicy,

she's hot. Did you have any angst when she was there? Uh? Yeah, I felt this with Dana and now I'm like getting upset all over again. Yes, she was really and she was like Dana. I remember, like now that I'm looking back as an adult, like she was really nice. They're doing her job and going through protocol, like I'm rehearsing. I'm an actress is what I do in hindsight. But Cary was like, just like are hot, like smoking hot and really cool and nice? But like knew it, you know,

like she just mused sex. She still does, so that was that's a whole different thing. So when we get to that, it's gonna We're gonna. Yeah, yeah, we have to get her on the show. Yes. Also, Jenny BETSTI use of the of the word ever, I always like to throw that in there. Never appropriate. Okay, so should we jump into this episode? Let's do it. Season three, episode six, Castles in the Sand, aired on August. Synopsis. Summer is coming to an end when Donna and Brenda

return from Paris. Brenda's intuition is very telling in her relationship with Dylan, and speaking of Dylan, Kelly pretends nothing happened between these two. Brooke and Brandon yep, Brooks still here, Brandon's political differences lead to their breakup, and David finally gets his first music gig. Okay, I'm excited that Brooke and Brandon are breaking up now, Thank god. How many episodes she was here for? Twenty episodes, like three years, three or four? Is this? It is? She gone now?

Because he broke up and that we never see her again. Nope by hopefully Okay, Brooke's simpiter Brooks terrible. Why it's so interesting they would write her that way, Like maybe they just like, we gotta get her out of here. We got to get her out and have everyone dislike her. That's one way she was going after black people, Jewish people. What else? It was very extreme too, was like what is happening? And it's three episodes for the side of

her to come out? Right, That's why I'm like, maybe they just felt like this is typical, you're all out of here, so they laced it in with the with the she didn't like the transience and then right, I just literally all my notes are just iroll, iroll Brook, I roll bye Brook, Bye bye bye bye, and stop hanging on him. I don't understand this. Was she always hanging on him and they're always kissing. I feel like she was hitting on him in real life. Is that

a weird feeling to feel that? Because I don't know, and we and we both we talked about how he kissed her as Jason not Brandon. That was the only parts redeeming about their storyline was how great. The kisses were I don't know, I feel like she was hot for him. I can't remember this episode out with you know, Bye Bye Perry. That's no more, no more Universal Studios per Paris with the I can't wait to see Rick.

I was, come on, I mean, Dylan, and then seeing you on the plane, I don't know, just seeing you comm sitting in that seat on an airplane, I was like, what, there's something wrong with this? This is not but she was right. Yeah. Because of my fear, I have to a lot of people are like, why do you want

to look out the window? But I do, like I feel safest, So I'm always like, Dohne, please, please can I sit in the window and you have to look out the window because I feel some way when you're in the middle and you can't see it out, You're like you're like a cage damible. You're like, like its your panic more. Yeah. Yeah, so you had the window seat like Brenda technically would have been like I want the window. Her personality so interesting that Dean Kine just

had that brief moment. But I feel like, you guys tell me they did that because they're keeping him around for more. Yeah, did they pay him a full like episode salary for that one because he was the top name. Yeah, and he looks so cool when he just like picked her up like she was a feather, like she wasn't a real thing, just like a little dolly. Like he's so strong. Yes, pray Superman. So it had to jump scares.

Do you guys know how jump scares? It's like in a horror movie when you're like, I had to, I wrote, So one was when you guys are on the plane, and she says so. First in her dumb dream, she's like calls Rick Dylon, but then when she's awake, she says, I can't wait to see Rick. So that was like I went, then, how did you go? Would you? How did you do it? Then on the beach, Kelly and Dylan are in the sleeping bags, which I was loving, and holy hell, Andrea out of nowhere, and I was

like this, Oh my god, I was not expecting. Right, She's dressed for the day and has the kids out looking for crabs already speaking of crabs, who sleeps on the beach like literally care Yeah, and you see the crabs on the beach. Yeah, they come out, and especially the little jumping flies at night, like, um, but what up, Kevin? I'm just gonna call you Kevin from now on. Kevin. It was I just totally made up. You just made that up. I think that was a great scene because

even though I've seen this episode. I've seen this episode at least a couple of times, I still didn't remember that Andrea just right there, and so I was I literally wrote on my notes that even shocked me, like because I was like, oh, oh, yeah, I didn't see that coming either, and I wasn't there. Did you guys notice, like did you think of the voices sounded weird? Like they were weirdly dubbed? Like I felt like those were

um like a d R like we did. Didn't the voices sound weird to you now that you bring it up, but you know you you notice that more than we do. It pulled me out so hard. I was like, wait, why are their voices sound so weird and kind of not exactly sinking up to their lips and definitely not like I didn't feel like the performance in the voice was the same as in what would have been the moment that you know, the energy of the moment, Like

I felt like it was removed somehow. That makes me ask you guys a question because when Jenny just said that pulled me out so hard, and you've mentioned that before. For me, rarely do I get pulled out of the episode because I'm so like in it. But because you guys are looking at it so differently, does that happen a lot like toward does that happen to you? Like

does that happen to you guys? Where like you're remembering something or you're performing it in a certain way and you're like, oh, I wish I had made a different choice where you get out of it. Where I'm just like, look line and sinker. This thing's happening. Not as much as Jen like she see like she's great at like picking apart like the continuity in the boom like everything like for its memories. Yeah, I'll be like, oh, it takes me back to that moment, like I remember that day.

Oh my god, I totally forgot about that. But for the most part, I'm truly really watching it as a fan and I and I don't know why my brain is doing this because usually my brain likes to interject and be like you're terrible, like that was horrible and but I'm not. I'm like just watching like Donnan enjoying her.

That's so good. I like hearing that. I'm like fifty, I'm watching it, and it's it's a bonus for me that I don't remember it at all because and I am watching it like I'm not in it, like I've never I've never been there before. Uh so, But yeah, I do get pulled out by like the little technicality sometimes, which happens to me in all shows, in all movies,

and it's pretty annoying. But the thing is about your memory is you might not remember things, but once you watch it, you'll totally remember, even more than me, Like you'll be like, oh my god, that day this was happening. Sometimes, Yeah, I'm safely. So I have another question on that same topic.

If you are watching it now and you guys are so much younger, do you think it's easier to watch yourselves now that it would have been like if you watched it maybe a year after, because you know, when you're less critical of your look, maybe for sure thousand percent, Like even ten years ago, I would look at and be like and now I'm just like CUTI but tuti I know, such a deep appreciation for whoever that is on that show. That girl. Yeah, those girls are adorable

and magical. I don't think I know you guys have talked about this because it's season three and everyone's sort of hitting their moment. You guys all look good. I do think everyone looks at their best right now. Yeah, give us a couple of seasons. Chick starts to get crazy with the haircuts and the colors and the eyebrows. Yeah, we peaks here, I think so, So should we get into the meat, because I really really really want to know from both of you. Okay, if you were writing

it or living it, what would you have done? Should Kelly tell Brenda what happened? What would you all have done as Jenny and Tory in that same situation? And is there something you wish the writers would have had Kelly do? I don't know. I just was watching it feeling like so uncomfortable all the time, and like I feel icky, like she's lying to her and she's being like isolating herself, like and she's says like to Brenda, oh yeah, I can keep a secret. Like it's just

so uncomfortable. Do you feel like you cut her? A break though, because of her age, she's a teen girl doing the best. She probably doesn't know how to how to handle it the right way, so she's just trying to go with the way it was when Brenda left. I don't think there's a world where she would have

just been like, Hi, Brenda, welcome back. By the way, while you were gone, I cheated with Dylan, okay, Like that would have to be such an evolved teenager, Like I don't even think girls nowadays, like as evolved as they are, would be able to handle all of that. That's a lot and would would he have been on the same page because in this episode, I was like, Dylan, you are he It bothered me. No, it bothered me so much the way he was like all just pretending

like it didn't happen. And the only time that you could see that he was torn or conflicted with it was when he was, you know, gazing at like off in the corner, soul king like it just did not feel good at all. So I looked at it a little differently and that I see what you're saying. But I also think that Dylan, okay, So I asked myself, like, why isn't Dylan discussing with Kelly breaking up with Brenda. But he has that line and I'm trying to find the exact line where he says, I'm doing it because

this is what you asked me to do, essentially. So I do feel like he sort of said to Kelly, I'm not addressing this or doing it because you sort of told me not to. You told me you don't want to be with me. So in that opening beach scene, if things had gone differently, do you think he would have maybe been open to the possibility of like, Hey, I'm just gonna be up brend and tell Brenda. Because he's still being Dylan, like even in that scene, like

he's over it, like he's moved on completely. He's not conflicted at all. That's the way it bothered me. Even though I'm like totally team Kelly. I just felt like he had a real meaningful relationship with Brenda. He was in love with her, and like, how does it just go? I know, we have the whole thing, like they played house for like a moment and it was like really screwed things up. But how do you just fought a love with someone that fast? I don't know. I think

that this this love triangle. While I'm watching it, it was I'm seeing, like this is what has gotten me so screwed up with like men and trusting men, and like this was because I was young when we were filming this, and those were very like formative years and especially like in relationships, like speaking about relationships like this was hard for me to work through as an adult, even like in therapy, like just because it just sent me Jenny, like the person inside that was playing these scenes,

all these messages of like, you know, it's never what it seems and people will always lie, and so I stand that. I wrote down so you know, Dylan shows up over at the party, which that was like amazingly awesomely awkward the whole situation there, And I even wrote does he love Brenda? Because it's like I'm confused. It was like who does he love? He was so convincing and cute with Brenda, but I was so certain that

he really wants to be with Kelly. He does, he's like over Brenda, but like he never explained why he's over Brenda. I mean, I understand he met someone else and it was a whirlwind and he's like whoa this this is my soul mate, But like, where's that person? Like this girl fell in love with you, she lost her virginity to you. This was like a huge milestone relationship, like what did you like about her? What you what

did you love about her? Like we'll never know. Yeah, And I just I felt like if I could have been the writer, I would have wanted Kelly to be a lot stronger in like that was her decision, like you said, Dylan said, you know you wanted this. This is what I'm trying to do, what you said we should do. But I felt like she wasn't even like she didn't show conviction. So I felt like she was

so strong. I don't know. I just felt like I guess, I guess, just feel her feelings, and it felt she was so it was just so acting for her, like she was so hurt. I mean because me watching like having Kelly watched Brenda and Dylan like canoodling and playing in the sand, it was like heartbreaking for it was

the whole thing was painful. And then the line that I found was I think you say she she I can't remember exactly, but remember she comes to you and says, like he's being too nice to me, I think there was someone else. So then you have that conversation with Dylan and he says you because you you said I knew it, and he says something like you didn't predict it, you made it happen. And I took that. I think that's the right line. I hope I'm not screwing this up,

but that's where I took it. Like it's almost like she's manifesting this by not letting Dylan break up with Brenda, by saying no, no, no, that she's manifesting her own not getting to be with him. Am I making sense? Let's conte for him to say put that on her? Yeah, but this is what you wanted. Yeah. I was astounded by how complicated this is. Like again, I know I've said it before, but like, these are college kids. To me, this is such complicated relationship stuff that I'm like, I

was in college when I was watching it. So I think that's why I related. I was not dealing with this in high school. These are not kids. Yeah, there's no goofiness about them. There's no like, I'm sure when we see them playing like tug of war and playing games with each other and like having those moments of like fun and carefree teenage stuff because it's everything else is so heavy and like there's so much emotional weight to everything, Like I like those moments that breaks it up.

You know what I did missing was when I miss seeing when David and Donna reunited after you being gone, like you, we didn't get to see that moment. I wonder if we shot that and then didn't make it into the cut. That seems odd not adorable. Kiss on your head though I thought the way they are every girl wants to be kissed on her head, but they're much more team but going yeah, true, yeah we do

have that. But going back to Jen's point of how this shaped like her outlook on life and relationships, like keep in mind, like once we started doing this show, our youth really was over, so like this is all we knew. So I agree with you, Jen, Like it got super confusing and all of a sudden, like we're

talking differently than you know. I mean, I know you were acting out of high school before me, but like right before that, I was right in high school dealing with this stuff and it wasn't dealt with like this, And all of a sudden, like you're just like an adult. And it's like, okay, so yeah, Jenny and Tory, like we quickly had to grow up to adjust to playing these characters because this is our lives now. Wow, so we missed. We missed like that chunk of youth. It

was just like, okay, bye. I mean I'm seeing like right now, my have a daughter that's a freshman in high school, and I'm seeing her go through all this like learning of you know, and heartbreak and happy times and heartbreak, and like I'm seeing it from a different perspective because I didn't get to have that, Like you said, like I didn't ever deal with that kind of stuff really in high school, but was just thrust into like adult dealing with it. I feel like we were jipped. Yeah,

so fascinating on some level. We know, we're so grateful for we were on a hit show and we had great lives, but we did we had to grow up real fast. Well, and it sounds like ramifications from really becoming these characters Remains. Jenny just acknowledged it that some of the complicated relationship stuff here got into her psyche trusting people, you know, and remains. It's like, wow, the line is so blurred, and I get it. If you're immersed in these people for ten years, how do you

not take on some of that? Yeah, even you don't even know you're taking it on. It's just like seeping into your you're psyche like you said, yeah, wow, it's kind of yeah, no wonder I've had so much therapy, No wonder I need even more therapy Like this is yeah, but I never knew to address that part. Like like Jen and I, like when we were doing pH nine two and like coming up with everything, that's when it really hit us that these relationships kind of messed with us.

And it was like, oh, weird. People always say like, you know, your family screws you up or that's why you have like issues or something. It was like, well, no, our nine or to no family like screwed us up. That's why we had issues and we didn't really realize it. And it's not like when you're at this age you go into therapy and the therapist like, okay, let's talk about what's happening on screen off screen and how is that affecting you and it's transitioning. They wouldn't know, We

wouldn't know to bring that up. So it just never happened, just never addressed, just like dwarfed some of our Well, because you're saying that, that's so fascinating because just even looking at the instagram is the people that our team Brenda and I will say, Okay, before we get into that, let me ask you guys, I found her. I'm not I'm not a Brenda girl. I'm a Kelly girl. But she was much more likable in this episode, which I think was intentional. I was like, Oh, why do I

totally like Brenda in this episode? Yeah, she was sister and like less self righteous. She really didn't she didn't have she didn't have that much to do. I mean, I just feel like intentional was never their thing, so like, because if that were the case, we've talked about, like, wohldn't they made Brenda, like your quote unquote lead that started the show the Twins, like a little more likable throughout.

I mean, I guess maybe someone was like, oh, let's I wonder if Shanmnon played it offer knowing the storyline and saying that could be it. Let me try to win these people back, whether it was intentional or subconscious. Because it's like the audience was gravitating towards Kelly and Dylan. It's undeniable, so even though you're doing it in real time. And maybe this was before she knew that, maybe she played it softer to say, hey, I want them to

think I should be with Dylan. I don't know. Do you remember at all how she felt about the Brenda Dylan relationship ending, Like I wonder her like just watching the scenes with Kelly and Brenda and feeling like this is so I'm so uncomfortable because she she knows that the storyline is, she's a part of it. She's you know, we're playing in the scene and it's happening, and I just felt like, ah, I don't want to be anywhere

but here right now. Like it's fascinating as a fan to know now, Like you know, Luke was like, hey, I want to work with jen. I thought of that ultiple times. Yes, So I'm like wondering, like when they said, hey, we're going to break them up, if she was like no, no, no no, you can't do that, or I don't want that, or she's like great, okay, yeah, I want to have other people to work with two like new boyfriends. Like I wonder maybe that's how she felt about it. Maybe

she was like, yeah, this is I'm bored. Yeah. Maybe another thing that really stoodopts me in this episode. And I know we've had a sprinkling of it before, but it was really prominent. Was one of the reasons I think Kelly is pushing so hard to saying it's over, it's done, it doesn't exist, this didn't happen. Is when you say, like, I don't want to be the bimbo

and I don't want to have this reputation. And I think that was one of the prominent reasons why Kelly's like, we can't do this because I don't want to be that person anymore. I didn't love that. I gotta be honest,

tell me why. Like I guess, knowing the character as a fan, I was like, Okay, we know her backstory and we know how she felt the people perceived her, and now it's coming full circle, and but I didn't want that to be Like to me as a fan, now I don't think of Kelly that way at all, Like maybe that's how some people said it, and that's stuck with her because we know when something is said about you, it's sticks with you, especially in an early age, but I don't think of her that way as a fan,

and I didn't want that to be the reason. I wanted just more to be about her best friend. Mm hmm. Yeah. Interesting. And you just say that that's why they didn't make love. So what did you think when Dylan? Dylan said, how can you say? It's so cheesy so forgive to say bimbo and make love in the same sentence. I didn't feel good about it, you guys. I was like, I was like, they're on a plane, we're running out of time.

I just want to see Dylan and Kelly and love this moment together and I don't want to talk about bimbo make love like this. My thought during it was like I don't know how to say this other than like this could be melrose Place. This it was so much. It was just an elevated conversation that I, as like a adult forty something, could totally relate to. I think that's why I love this season so much, because these these are nothing's. It's all kind of realistic, but not

high school. I don't teens don't say make love. They didn't back in the nineties, you guys, And they don't. I'd assume they don't say it. They really don't say it now, Like did you ever say that to your teen friends? Like saying that now it just the grossest me out. Okay, you guys, let's take a break and we're going to come back because I want to talk about David and his dancing and his singing. I just need to talk about it. Hey, on the break, did

you guys make love? So? Like, what do you say though, I'm glad we didn't, you know, go all the way. We didn't have sad it. We didn't. We didn't go all the way. I think that's what they would have said. I'm shocked the Luke didn't say like, I'm not gonna

say it this way, you know. Yeah, you could tell when he said that line though, that he hated that line, you know, when you when he probably argued and didn't want to say it, but they were like, we really need you know, this is a call back to what she said, and you've got to say it this way. The way he just like kind of italicized it, it just made it. You could just tell he didn't want to say that. In the nineties, you guys, did did we say the word bimbo. I don't remember that either.

I feel like it was like slut like bimbo feels like it's seventies to me, right, But maybe the writers are because yeah, slutty would have been a better writers were a lot older. Yes, yes, which is probably why we always are feeling like and I'm not complaining about it. I love it, but it does feel college or even lay. Yeah, probably why I love it. Probably why teens loved it because it was elevated and you're like, look at these Beverly Hills kids, there's so much more mature. Yeah, they

only knew sweet. I have a couple of questions before we get rid of Brook Forever you must. I was completely weirded out. So at the party at the wall ships, did I get this wrong? I watched it three times, I rewound it. So Brenda comes in and gets introduced to Brook, and Brenda says nice to meet you, and she doesn't say a word. Brooke doesn't say anything to her nothing. It was so awkward and weird. Did she smile and be like like that was like, who doesn't

say nice to meet you? All I could see in that moment in that scene was the way Jason once again grabbed Brenda's head, she Hannon's head and pulled her in for what wasn't a kiss, but it was a hug. But just the way he just grabbed her and pulled her in, it was the same way he grabbed Brooke and pulled her. And like I'm sensing it's jason disturbing

pattern near the He's heavy handed. He handed Oh my god, you guys, anyone I'm not talking at school, like anyone that has ever like, nice to meet you guy, girl, Like Jason has the hardest hand. He will ripping your hand off. He's just like it's just that he has like meat, big meat, clean meat. With you, they're does meat either, like like you know, he goes hard though.

It's the same thing when like we all know heavy handed people like you're like, oh hey, like this, his would be like this, it's it and he doesn't mean it's like you know or like yeah, hug. It's like it's just like everything is heavy hard. I've never shook his hand. I think I'm proud to say we're on the hug hello level. But he probably hugs you hard, like almost squeezes the life out of you. Yeah, notice how it feels. Yeah, I'm about to text him because finally,

you don't worry. I'm going to invite you guys to But we have a concert coming up and his kids love our concerts. I thought you were about to tell us that he's agreed to come on our shop. Oh yeah, that kind of exciting. For a second, Amy your friends with a couple. If you are on a hug, we are friendly. I wouldn't go as far as to say friends, but don't I will. He calls you sugarman too. I've heard him say it like they're friends, they're good friends.

You want these tickets? Yes, I will do that. When I invite him to this thing, I will do that. Well. The other thing is I'm inviting you guys so we can all be there together and just do it there ambush him. It's an ambush podcast. Everybody we're going in. We should do that. We should do that. We should figure out a way to be like it's like a man on the street, but it's us for our podcast, just ambushing. And I'm gonna invite Iron too. That's a good show. So we can just invite them all and

just go, oh, while you're here, please come into the suite. Boom, We'll be like the show starts at six, but really it turns at seven and we have we just happened to have these microphones set up. It's so weird. Wait before if you could do it, you could do it. Yeah, the computer banner as I noticed with the whole literally used to make those. Yeah, me too, is you had to like tape it together right each piece. That would kind of you have the banner paper. Then it was

the paper, but that one was in color. And that my growing up house, we only have black and white NK. We did not have colored dink. I was like, whoa the wallsh is rich? Those banners on my Apple to e God, I loved my Apple toy Yeah, Apple to Okay. I enjoy Iron know, I enjoy Steve acting as a big time manager. There's something about it that works for me. Question for you guys, is it Sanders or Saunders? Because why does the Grays anatomy chief always say Saunders. It's Sanders,

It's he says Saunders. I was like, was he talking about effort? I'm like, what am I getting this wrong? I need to ask you, did you like when Brian, when David was performing on stage all own up there, you did you have the flop sweats like I did. Flop sweats, flop sweats. Yeah, b b be my Love, Oh my love. There was something so good about it, but at the same time, there's something so bad about it. It came immediately back to me. I was literally like, I know this song, yeah, be my Love? Was that

like released? Then he starts dancing world Tworld two keyboardboard that was? That was his number one song. I think right from a second from his album that he had a number one song. Oh, I meant like that was his first song off I didn't even buy it it, we didn't get his album it was, but I felt so nervous for him, like up there with us all watching and just like nobody's like up grooving and dance into it. We're all just sitting back, like watching him.

A little embarrassing. Okay, So but I do. Okay. So he has this song. I don't know the timeline. So he is the song and he's like, hey, you guys, I'm working on it. Like remember he had his own recording booth set up in his house and like, I mean, I don't know. I mean when you were at his house as well, Like, but I'm just saying like what came first? Wait? Wait, I never went to his recording booth, so I got invited to his recording booth, I did so, But I wonder if he's like, hey, I've been working

on this song. I'd love to get it on the show, or if like his album was out and they were like, hey, we want to put on the show, like what came first?

Because it's kind of seeming like brilliant. I wish some of us had said, like, hey, we have these other passions we want to get like a clothing line made, because when we had now we're this on the you know, our store on the show, like Brian's like so young and like mixing like both worlds, Like what it's nothing better than your song going to like number one than having it on nine or two one oh, which is the biggest show at the time, Like great, I mean

it could have been huge. If it didn't, that was just such a huge missed opportunity. Yeah, these days, that would never happen. That song would have been on iTunes the bye the minute the show ended, and you see, we would have had our own clothing line called now where Yes, totally okay, So wait, did you see what year his album came out? Nobody, no idea. I was like, who are those girls talking? Is that? It's so like jazzy and poppy at the same time, by my love.

It was kind of of the time, like I wondering when this album came out. Okay, it's called One Stop Carnival and it didn't come out to so interesting. That is really unfortunate that they didn't be my love oh so good than wonder from the show, Like he got like,

how does this album people like recording? So he was like, yeah, no, he was like performing and out and he had like he had fan girls of his music, like I remember this segway back to Jason Priestley's kissing but let okay, so did did you guys catch first of all, my notes said Brandon is such a good kisser. But did he kiss Kelly on the nose or the lips? Did you see it was the nose? I think it was her nose, very odd place to kiss a girl. Six

days till senior year, Brandon makes weird choices Forrandon. I also, can can we address because I've been meaning to talk about this for weeks. The writers whoever it is? Man, do they love cliches on this show? Do you guys ever hear that that? It's like, I guess nothing last forever, and there's always like a million I need to start, like my favorite cliche, and he's just there's so many like where they use these sort of like we'll always

have Paris. I don't know. That really irritated me. We'll always have Paris. They love that, and kids don't talk like that. My pumptation can be a killer. Like all those just you know, in the writer's room, because they were all older, they were like, oh that's great, I love it. Like yeah, meanwhile, as teens are like Casablanca, huh,

I've never seen that movie. I also thought the scene that just really kind of was like a gut punch for me was when they had Kelly and Brenda walking down the Walsh stairs and Dylan comes in the door and he has that face that's just so hot and you can tell he loves one of them, and you're just like, who does he love? Like I literally wrote, holy held, this is so wack. I love you don't her notes Holy hell, this is so wack because I was just like, who does he love? And does he

love Kelly? But he's faking it? What's happening? I mean, if if if Brandan, Kelly, Shannon, and Jenny didn't have beef before, just innately as people, right, then they just really pitted us against one another with this storyline fighting

chance of getting along. Correct, That's crazy. I've never thought about that either, Like, Wow, you guys just were set up on screen off screen to just go at like battle one another four and even as stars, you know, I don't know what you guys call yourself celebrities, stars. I like to refer my to myself as a star at Hollywood Stars. It's like, because you cringe coming up, you know, when someone sort of really takes that their shine in a show. And that's happening for Kelly's last Jenny.

So it's like, who, why of the other characters be like like my best example, I don't know if you guys watched Walking Dead, but like Darryl was sort of the secondary character, and then Norman Readas was just such a giant stud and just became up star and now he's the lead of the show. That happens, It happens. It happened, you know, it kind of happened with Dylan and Brandon. Yeah, but they were always probably supposed to

be the leading heartthrop males. Mm hmm. I mean maybe that's a good point, Like maybe they never thought Brian would be like he was just supposed to be the team geek at first, and then all of a sudden like, oh, he gets like a younger, different demographic of girls, like even like and he blew up. Well, as we dig into behind the scenes, we don't have to talk about it too much today, but I've been reading ahead and they were thinking of making these young characters. We'll learn

because it's coming in a couple of weeks. Another one shows up that they were thinking, like Dana was saying, where Nikki was going to take over with David and some of these young people. What the heck? I know, you guys, wait till I'm trying to get I don't want to ruin it today because I'm trying to get the person to come on to see if she was told the same thing. What who Okay, I'll tell you that part. It's Nicole tom So she comes on and she plays, um, oh god, why is my name? I'm

having a old person moment. You know, um, you know, the the boy that was in the cast, and then he accidentally shoots himself with a gun. Yes, it's the sister Scanlon scants. Sorry, they were trying to overthrow us. No, they were a coup. They were they were forming a coup. And I know we're running out of time, but I have to make another another question. Obviously, I thought it was clever the way both Kelly and Dylan slip up, like when Dylan says about the baby and Brenda's like,

how do you know? You know? Like that, And then there was another one where Kelly had to slip up, so I thought, oh, that's interesting. Interesting. But the thing that really bothered me too was then when Brenda was like, you're ready to go into our senior year together, and he never answered her at the very at the end, you do it evaded the question and I don't remember what he said, but it wasn't yes, I I'm excited

to go into senior year with you. It bothered me that didn't answer her because he doesn't know, but he's he's just going along with it. I also felt that Kelly and Dylan are great liars. I was like their teens. Oh my gosh, like, yeah, that would be so hard to lie about. Okay, let's take another break and let's come back. Can talk about fashion in lines. Okay, well

I have a good story. What's your story? Okay, So you know the red and white striped dress, which I feel like, I'm shocked they let us wear that, like stripes are usually they don't let you wear on camera, like now right, it makes camera kind of you can do weird things, so we never I don't remember borrowing my wardrobe, but I do remember borrowing that wardrobe. So Brian was having his birthday. I think I want to

say it was his eighteenth birthday. I'm not sure would that be the right timeline in July, I mean whatever, so you know or anything. I don't even know my kid's birthdays, and I know Brian Lawton Great's birthday priorities. Um, so I remember being like, oh my god, it's Brian's birthday, and like I still really liked him, but he had been I wanted to look good and we still had like something off camera, but it wasn't like that summer where we were like I was the one, like, at

least in my head. I mean he sent me a dozen red roses during that summer, like I thought I was the one major teens. I kept one of them dried in my closet for literally fifteen years after that. I remember that, um so anyway, that outfit. It was

his birthday. It was at the Mandreon in Hollywood, where like sky Bar is like, um, I don't I've been there in a gazillion years because we're old now, But I remember borrowing it and the exact outfit going to his birthday party and it was fun, Like I don't remember you being there, Jen. I think it was during the week, you know what you were working, you were working.

The only people I remember being there was I, And I don't know why it stood out, probably because I look back and I saw a picture and Iron like had me picked up like I used to like to pick me up, like like like I was nothing. So I just remember being there and we were all hanging out and there was the cake and I was just like I like Brian and then he disappeared with a girl and I had brought two girlfriends and so stupid.

But I remember like going up finding out what floor he was staying on and going up and like running down that hallway and finding out and like listening on at doors and like dingdong ditch, like knocking on the door to disrupt them, and then running and hiding around the corner. Oh my god, I love that so much. And I just remember I went home and cried that night, and I was so sad and then that I could never wear that dress again. I'm like, here, you can

have it back home. I don't want to keep it. It looks so cute on YouTube, and I there was a flowered tank bikini top. Oh, the flowered the flowered bathing suit top Kelly wears. No, I'm thinking of this of the sunfire bikini tops also great, but it was like Kelly had almost what it would be a one piece. It was like a corset all it looked like a tank and it was this great flowered, perfectly fitted. It was so good. And I like the purple hoodie that Kelly wore when she was moping and didn't want to

go to the same was like current today. I was like, yeah, I wanted to wear that. Yeah. Did you like um Steve Saunders, uh no socks look realizers, his pleated trousers and his shoes was the loafers. Oh my god, he did that recently. I feel like he was in a turtleneck and trousers and no socks and we were like it kind of work. It wasn't no socks. He had the the ones showing, but they showed too much and we're like, wait, if you're gonna wear that kind of

the pant you have to like no sock. Look now, isn't I'm not mad about no socks, but it's just the whole Look. Well, I know we're running out times, so I have to have I have to ask you guys like four quick questions. Why we had a Randy Spelling appearance. Yes, yeah, he's been spoke, had a good line. Number two. I messed up and thought Kelly had to slip up, but it was Brenda. Brenda had the slip up about Rick, and that's how Dylan knows something's going on,

which then she admits at the end. So there's that. We had a Jake mentioned. Remember Kelly's mom thinks she's moping over Jake, so they are keeping that going. So I thought, well done. I wonder if they is like talk like we're going to cross over again and that's why we got to keep that going. You know, they wouldn't have mentioned Jake for no reason, Like there had to have been some thought process they should have. That would have been Oh my, imagine if Jake showed up

right now, that'd be good. What would Kelly do? Oh? Don well? Hm? I also believe David and Kelly as step siblings. They're playing that totally. I love that relationship. I really do. It's never creepy, it's never like it's never like Brandon and Brenda. It's like a normal sister brother relationship. Yet. Yeah, well we didn't really get two lines. But yeah, that's okay. We'll always have Paris next, We'll always have Paris. Did Gabrielle no sign language? Yes? She

was like proficient. Yeah that was cool. I forgot that she's Yeah, I was watching, going, wow, she's so good at that, at everything. Yeah, well that's it for for this episode. Oh you know what? You know what I do at night? You guys? Uh, do you really want to share this? I look up at the moon and think, are you looking at the same moon? I believe your first second? That was good, Like I was like, what what are you doing? In actress? Sugar man, you're still talented.

Did not mean to come please. I was saying, that's it for this week's episode. Next week we have Songs of Myself, episode seven of season three. Everybody watch it.