9021 Oh Big Bangs (S1, E6 “Higher Education”)

Buddy's here asleep. They haven't seen each other in a while, and when they see each other they sniff butts and lick wieners. It's super cute because I never do that to Jenn when I see her. That one time one time, I was like, am I supposed to give you like a motor boat or something like? Is that the equivalent of when the dogs smell each other's butts? I don't know what a motor boat is, but I'm not sure that I really want to open that, like when you go to movies, And how do you know that? I've

never heard that? Am I alone? I guess I'm alone here. I didn't I'm the only one to say. It's something like girls would never want boys to do. But it's a thing. Yeah, it's like you so gross. Well we are on episode six of Beverly Hills, NANA two and oh, and this episode is called higher Education and it first aired on November nineteen ninety. I was a good year. Good year. You know, we're like fine wines. Here's a

little synopsis for all y'all. Brandon's favorite subject, American history, becomes an issue when he continuously kids sees and considers alternative study aids, much to Andrea's chagrin. Brenda finds herself drawn to the resident high school bad boy legend, Dylan McKay. Do you say chagrins, I said chagrin, chagrin. I've never heard that word same. I believe chagrin means like, you know,

she's not that happy about it. In this context, Andrea was not very happy with Brands not studying with her and going in quote unquote studying with Steve, which wasn't really studying, right, I was cheating a lot of pool time. Um, okay, let's do this. Jump right into it. Let's jump right into it. Okay, Can I just say, well, you know, I you know, I like the fashion. Uh, so we

get some peach pit love. Here we see the outside of the peach pit, a lot of like inside of the peach but they didn't have peach but uniforms yet. You know, they have the cute little white button downs with the rolled up sleeves. Will Brandon had his sleeves rolled up, of course, because he don't show off his like muscles, his little dream his dreamy muscles. Um, but

isn't that crazy? It was. It was much more so like a fifties diner going for that vibe and like old school, like Marty McFly, like for the diner in Back to the Future. Yeah, definitely like that. This was. This was. I was a little confused though, because in the very beginning of the episode, Brand is walking and he calls Andrea Andrea, and I didn't catch it. Yeah, he called her Andrea, and then in the next scene he calls her Andrea. So I, as a viewer, I

don't know who he's talking about. I think you're the same person. That's a continuity issue if there ever was one. It's true. When did you guys film I'm like, I'm watching all these scenes on every day of every month. But like it wasn't this an active high school, wasn't the school? Yeah, we definitely. We shot at Torrance High School and the school was in session, um just like a normal high school, and um are like, you know, base camp was set up out front like it was

like a zoo. We were we were animals on display in a zoo. And we would come out and try to get like the scenes done between you know, their class bells or whatever. But it's a lot of schedule and if it didn't, if it overlapped and we heard the bell, we just had to like freeze. Yeah, and then and then they were all the kids would come out and stare at us and point and laugh. They're all gonna laugh at you. Well, I'm sure at first they were like what is the show? Who? What is?

You didn't know anything? And then obviously after they figured it out, I probably thought it was so cool that I know. I wonder if like they got cool because of it. People were like, whoa, that shows a hit and it's filmed at your high school. And at first they were like go home, and then they were like hey, So they were never in the background all the all the people you see in the scenes are extras? Are

actual actors or were some of those students? No? Those are all extras for sure, Okay, okay, yeah, And they had a lot of extras on those days, thank god. And they were so rad they that, you know, extras. That's a hard job to be an extra. And we, I mean shows movies couldn't do what they do without these super talented background actors because they bring the life to the to the whole scene. And I think that

so many times they get overlooked. I think there should be a category for best background actor for the and the Boys. The boys loved The Beautiful X Stress really yeah, because I guess it's like fresh and it was the nineties. You know. It was like, it doesn't matter if it's the nineties. Okay, fine, I was being nice, like it wasn't. It's like six seven episodes and they were sick of us, So yeah, it was. But I feel like we would

get jealous a little bit, a little bit. It was like they were our territory, Like like, yeah, if we could have if we could have peed on all the boys, we would have marked them. They were ours. I would not pee on any of them. I don't think peing for yourself. Really, yeah, I would have marked them. Those boys were ours hands off well in this episode, this is the first episode that we see the whole Brenda Dylan I start to that starts with the spark between

Dylan and Kelly. You see that. It was so telling of the future. I liked ones. I know what, don't give it away for people that are watching for the first time. This is I mean we did at thirty year old episode. That's the thing, Tori. We actually did get some d m s of of listeners that are saying that we're spoiling some things in future episode because they're watching for the first time. But you're right, since

it was first it was that at the lockers. I remember that scene when Dylan says, no, the girls are like which to really really important question, which do you prefer blondes or brunettes? And he said he's always been a blonde guy, right, he says it right to Brenda's face. I know that was painful and for me that brought

that like triggered me. I don't know about you, ladies, but like he was just fucking with her, like right out of the gate, just like I was triggered for you because I was like, you are his well, Brenda is his in in the By the end of this episode, you really see that that's kind of the direction that the show is going to get Brenda and Dylan together. I feel like the feelings that she had with wanting to change your color something that was just so relatable

to a teenage girl. But you don't have you want. The grass is always greener. When you have blonde hair, you want brown hair. When you have straight hair, you want curly hair. To this day, like you know, I'm in my forties, I still go through like I just wish I had blue eyes, Like do you know what I mean? It's that thing. There's certain things that you're just like, you know, we keep waiting for some surgery to change your eye color. It'll happen in our lifetime, ladies. Yea, yeah,

So Brenda goes and for something. This is a life lesson. People. Never ask your friend to dye your hair just after it. It will always end badly unless they're like, you know, professional, But that was a big mistake. I'd let you do my hair, you let me take your extensions out. Once you have taken my extensions. She has it was an undertaking. She has taken out my extensions. She has put in new extensions. She has cut my hair. Yeah, have you ever done she has shaved my face. She has. I

don't think you've ever reciprocated. You've tanned. You've tanned my body head to toe with your gloves. That's true friendship. I have have I cut your hair? No, but I want to cut those damn bangs. You know I want you back in banks. You need to bring him back for the podcast sake. I'm going to the bangs were like for you, I'm going to order some from the from the bangs. Nothing would make me happier. Nothing those bangs unless on this last episode, we're just like fire

and on all cylinders. They were like coming out with a trajectory that I mean, did they put like a soda can under there and then just blow dry? How was it done? Just a round brush like a round brush. But that was must have been the biggest round brush ever made because he applied like really got some like depth. I was watching it with Fiona last night and she was like, wow, Mom, those are some big bangs. And then she said, and those are some big teeth, and

I thought you would appreciate that. I knew she was my favorite of yours. I just knew it from the mouths of babes. And she didn't say big. She said you, wow, Mom, you have a lot of teeth. I said, I have the same number of teeth as everybody else. Were you like? Were you like? Go? Tori? Tori, she talks about my teeth a lot. No, I said, She'll be happy. I'm gonna get blinding you. There's a moment when in the episode where Kelly and Dylan are coming down the stairs.

We actually had Beverly email us and it's asking if you remember, Jenny, what Luke said in your ear to make a giggle? I mean, or was it just acting? I can assure you it was inappropriate. Oh really, what do you say something like that? I love it. I can assure you it was completely inappropriate. Do you remember, No, I don't remember all the inappropriate things he said to me, Tori, can you speculate? What do you think? Well? And like

a whispery like breathy warm right in your ear? He was probably like and then said something inappropriate that made her blush and giggle and laugh and her heart pound. Yeah he was. He was really good at doing that. And he loved he got he Yeah, he would get her all riled up like all, oh giggly, you're giggly now look at her. I know, I know. We should talk about the Brandon part. We should talk about Brandon

and um, what's the teacher's name? Mr Dunn Denzel, Mr Washington, Mr Dunne, interesting name d Mr Danzel, Mr. Okay, let's get into that in one second. We have to take a break. Okay, can't gay? So now can we talk about Mr d Now we can? Okay? Good? Um, he was really cute. I have a thing for older guys though, and he was. He was a daughter when married to a younger man. For your character in real life, now, I like, I love I love the elders. What are

you talking about you've only dated younger men? Well yeah, but not like to Oh you mean just like like I appreciate I love h Okay, I get that. I know what she means. But he was a rough teacher. He was pretty pretty. Um I had one lady school. Did you ever cheat? Did you ever cheat? And one thing, guys, I hate to admit it, but I did there was a final and someone got the test and a bunch of us did it it, and yeah, we had to

go in and individually got caught. And they were like, if you admit you did it, you're you know, you're going to fail and have to do it over, but you won't get expelled from school. And in fact, I think I was doing nine O two one oh at the time, so I was barely there and I just wanted to like graduate and yeah, so that that was rough. But it was really scary because someone promised us it was like an old test. It was like an old test,

and they were like, this is the new test. And because it was an old test and like six different people had the exact same answers, they were able to like call it. It was so scary. Not worth it, Like worth it that takes years off your life, huh. But you can really see how important, um their g p A was to these kids. Oh my gosh. They were so stressed out about their g p A and like Andrea was so odd about her grades and Brandon was so worried about his. I felt so stressed out

for them. Steve was so not worried about his grades. With his character he wasn't, but he was. He was going. He was pretty sure that he was going to go to USC. That is every confidence in himself in the right because he just felt like what his parents would buy him into it, because that's what happens. I guess when you're you get a little glimpse into him get brought into college. I don't know, does that happen. I've

never heard a story about that. Turns out that's happened before. Interesting, but we get a little glimpse into Steve's character, I think a little bit more you find out he's like both his parents are divorced multiple times, and he was almost shocked that Brandon Walsh's parents were stayed together. Yea, how set them? He laughs at Brandon because he's like, are your parents still together? Like, and then it was

what did he say? He was like, uh, you'll be okay, and then he like reversed it on him, comforting and yeah, it's not the norm, but you're going to survive it. Like it was just so mocking. I mean, I mean, my parents we're still together when my dad passed away. Your parents were still together, tour same, Yeah, both of our parents together. How about you mine are still together going on fifty years almost, I think like forty six,

forty seven. Maybe I love that so much. I always wanted that to be the old couple that celebrates their like seventy five anniversary together. Well, that's gonna be us. That's gonna be us, and do it okay, because yeah, they didn't speculate it had to be husband and wife. Could be it could be your life wife. Can you guys please have like a seventy fifth anniversary party like that? Oh my god, Oh my god, we're doing it. We're doing It's going to be a good night. The toast

you cris crossed your arms and drink the champagne. Oh my gosh. And we're going to be like in rocking, like bedazzled rocking chairs, ankers, the whole nine yards. We're so by the way, we're doing that. I'm doing that yet. But I did laugh out loud when Steve called Mr. D the hemorrhoid. I feel like Donna was a little feisty towards Mr. You were friend, and Donna's like the sweetest, like she had been defined yet, so she was just kind of like the like little like going along with it.

You had a good, nice tie. You had a good line where you were like, I'm wearing both contacts on the I didn't know when to bring this up, but it's literally one of my favorite lines of Donna's from all ten years is, oh my god, this is so embarrassing. I think I'm wearing both contacts in the same eye because it showed like she was so like giggly and kind of dizzy, I guess and quirky. Um. The funny thing is when we filmed it, I didn't wear contacts.

I was, you know, seventeen, I guess when we did this one, and I was like, this is so weird. Does this ever happen? And no joke, this happened maybe four years ago. I was putting on my contacts and I was like, what's going on? And I was like, oh my god, I'm wearing the same contact wearing and I was like, oh my god, I'm wearing both contacts in the same eye. And I was like, life imitates Donna Martin at her finest. It happened. That was glorious.

I felt like, Um, since you said that was a really funny line, I feel like there was another couple of really good lines in this episode. Um, that one was my favorite. There was another one, Brenda said to Brandon, excuse me for living that, remember that was such a thing. Excuse me for breathing. Excuse me for a living. And the other one was the other one was when Dylan.

I'm jumping ahead of the end of the episode, but like when Dylan he comes up when he's on the motorcycle and he says, blonde, brunette, redheads, girls and tank tops. Oh yeah, you felt the tingliness through that scene, burn smoldering boy. He knew just what to say and always did right under the skin. Him taking off his helmet in that scene is iconic, is I That's how I remember him when I think of him in a stare like that's it. I'm picturing it right now. It's like

a grained in every female's brain. And those wrinkles on his forehead he had like those great lines across his worst and the one eye like going up. I mean, is this strange? I was attracted to him at like eight years old, Like is that like completely my not at all? All? Over my wall? Like no, I wish we had those now. The same In that same scene, Brenda says to him, I like your butt. I mean you're bike. I mean you're bike. But he never had

a butt, but now I'm going to look for it. No, but when she said that, Fiona was like, oh my god, Brenda, she never says the right thing. She was so like, no, why did you say that. I love being able to cringe in an episode, like when I'm watching something and just like being able to feel the energy through the TV and just like, oh, you're feeling with them. Yes, I love that. How do we get back onto Dylan again? We just keep jumping back to Brenda, and Dylan just happens.

I know. I have more to say about Brandon though, because I felt like Brandon was so hard on Andrea in this epiod, so he was so like borderline her and Mrs Brandon. Brandon is like the nice guy, so why is he so he's intense? But this episode he was actually angry at people, which is very again character again with the yelling in the library, Yeah, and what's going on in that library? But I gotta get to

the bottom of it. I think in your past life you really want to be a librarian apparently, because it really bothers me that they kept having fights in the library. I don't think I've ever been in the library. It's just a teacher like he choose them out, Like could you guys ever have chewed out that way like her? No, but Brandon, I feel like that was not that was uncharacteristic.

I feel like they didn't write they missed the mark. Sorry. Yeah, he was really a little bit too angry, too like hot headed, because Brandon really wasn't hot No, but maybe where maybe because we know what he is, we don't see it. But right now he's just being introduced as this character to the viewers what episode six, So he

obviously evolves, but they're definitely things out. But yeah, you definitely see that like range of like when he is sweet and cute and then he gets so fiery and angry and then he gets guilty and then he is apologetic and he kind of you know, finds the meaning in it, and you know, he really did go through kind of an emotional journey in this episode. I felt like, yeah,

I think he's like trying to find himself still. I guess all of you guys are truly, but who isn't I meant in the episode, Oh yeah, but touche we just I mean, and Andrea was just really who she comes at you man, I wouldn't want to piss off Andrea. Yeah, but not like scary, just like you and accurate, like she's got a point. I felt like, um, Jim the dad Mr Walsh there again in a kind of a weird helicoptery um like, hey, Musso zipping mus that's awesome.

Oh my god, if you've ever the screeching of Musso that goes on when because we usually take our dogs with us to work wherever we go, Buddy and Musso so they can see each other. And Musso is notorious bar yapping and anyone that comes around, he's like the guard dog and she Tori will just scream, go ahead, do it for all the listeners give him the Musso screech. Well, first of all, it usually goes to are you gonna

do anything? Like are you gonna saying yeah, because you'll sit there and he'll just be yapping, and the guy ever starking at will be like back like yeah, Musso musto, and they're like, are you just gonna sit there? You have to do something or you're not gonna do something? And then I'm like, oh, it's very enjoyable. Yeah, didn't it hurt, like like the core of your brain when you hear that little ball in the back of your

throat Like he stopped. He stopped. He's like mibrato during bh I know someone ever he hated Brian Austin Green, Like, why did I just say Brian Austin? He did? He hated the listeners every time I come around. Remember every day, he'd be like, it's me. Every time Brian would like, Brian would say, it's me. Musso, you like me? You remember like yesterday when we did this, you just saw me.

We just went through this every day. It's me. But like he was kind of like kidding and like the dry sense, but the same thing every day day and Musso. I literally at the end of the student I think Musso was just sing with him. I think he was just like, oh, I know you, buddy, but good stuff. Sorry. What were we even talking about before Musso rudely interrupted? Just the anger between everyone kind of like being up in a tizzy with all the cheating. You know, we

were talking about Jim. We were talking about Jim. Oh yeah, yes, he was shame about not a helicopter. Yes, he was kind of like hovering about the grades, and I felt I felt pressured from him watching. I felt like, oh my, I'll never be able to live up to his standards. That probably was what Brandon felt like that all that extra pressure. You guys have young kids, Like your kids are still in elementary school, all of them, right, diapers

so even yet, so you haven't gotten to that. But when they are in high school, yeah, yeah, when they are in high school, like things do have to start getting a little more serious if they want to go on to college and like whatever they want in their lives. And sometimes it's hard to like step back and let them handle it. But I think that Jim needed to step back, and Cindy was, you know, as always the voice of reason right there to keep him in line.

While she's barbecuing. Another scene where she's barbecuing, I was like, this girl is amazing, super mom. She cooks all the time. I think that's all she did was garden and cook, garden and cook, Oh my goodness. And they would have their barbecues in the front yard or was that like that was the backyard. It's a backyard. I would always

see the car like I was always confused. It was like on the side, Yeah, there was like a cart port and then that basketball cart where they the boys always played basketball was attached to the was this house owned by you guys? Like could you you guys were always filming there or no, how did you do the scenes? They we just used it like one day an episode in the beginning when we used the Walsh House a lot.

We used to like when we shoot all the scenes that took place exterior of the Walsh House that day. Oh wait, so we did you hear this news? So in a previous episode. I think you said that. Now how they're just used to it and they welcome people, right, but apparently they're still mad about it. There's still like annoyed that people come there. They are because our our number one super fan, Darren Martin, who knows everything nine

o two one bro knows everything about the show. He said, Uh, last time they all went there when Brian was having his podcast and they drove by, they were like, no, you can't come into They couldn't come past the street. Really yeah, well maybe they sold it to new people, didn't, didn't I hear? He said? No, Darren say that, No, it was not new owners. Maybe I might be speaking at it. I kind of remember him saying something about it was new own, new owners that weren't worn as

um excited. Okay, okay that maybe yeah, No, I don't know. So it was all engines used for exterior. Any interior was in vanuy correct set my world being crushed in the bubble. Jenny refers to the box we were locked in ten years next to the porn, next to the porn, the good old day, good time, Oh my gosh. But we left when we would go to that that location though, And shoot, I loved going to that location in Altadena

because it was like it was beautiful. It was like you were kind of out of l a a little bit.

And it's just remember we would like sit on the front lawn in between takes and like just talk and oh my gosh, I'll never forget the I don't even know why this is coming up, but I'm having like this vivid memory of we were filming at the wallsh House and we were sitting on the front lawn the day the O J trial was announced, the verdict, and they had cameras in our faces and I just remember being like, don't know a motion like you don't want to have a response at all, But like I can

remember us all just like sitting in there and we were like watching this old TV and like seeing what was happening. Wow, that's a good memorizy. I mean, I think we all remember where we were for that. I don't long as you were there. You were sitting right next to me. Apparently I was on the Walshlan. I don't know if we talked about this, because we chatted a little bit before we started the podcast. Did we

talk about Brenda's hair and the wig? We didn't. We just I just said it never let your friend do your hair. But yeah, that was a bad die job. But the like the frizziness was so accurate to what it would be like as a brunette because I tried. I dyed my hair blonde when I was in high school and I went to the grocery store and I bought the blonde box because I was like, well, it's gonna be blonde. And then it was like the picture and you guys son and it would turn your hair orange? Yes,

why why do you want to be a blonde? Though? I'm curious, like what seeing that Brenda was feeling. It just felt like it was probably for a boy. It was probably probably Dylan McKay's fault. Yeah, you see a Kelly Taylor and you're just like, I want to look like her. That's so funny because I dyed my hair dark as soon as the show wrapped. I colored my hair permanent colored super dark, like dark dark, dark, darker

than your hair, and why and why? Just to escape because I wanted to experience what it was like to not be a blonde like I wanted to know the different album There was a huge difference, let me tell you. But I went dark in the show. In the show, yeah, I regret that overly. I think I just feel like Donna. Donna's like a blonde like she was like, it looks so beautiful. Though as that I loved that red. I like it, it just didn't feel like Donna. I wish

I hadn't married David. I wanted to remember Donna and David the way they met and so in mind, but it was like at the time, I just remember I had a manager that was like, um, you know to do things beyond nine two and oh, you need to you know, be the girl next door. You need not to be blonde and platinum, like you need brown hair and just to be taken seriously as an actress. Did

it work? That didn't work out that? I feel like that was a really bad wig though on Brenda poor thing, it was really bad, yeah Champ, though she did good sport on that one. That wasn't early in the series of Dylan like, well, we have some emails and some d ms from people, which I think we should get to. Um, but let's take a break and we'll come right back. Yeah, wait,

we into emails. No, yeah, you know we have a few, and I know that we've we've read one already, so I wanted to pick up this one from thank you guys for writing in like we love this right and more. We want to hear what you think about it, bad or good. We want to hear questions you have for us upcoming episodes, like let us know. Yeah, that was like one that we got from Monica where she was like, can you guys not spoil anything from future seasons for example?

I cannot promise that. But the good to think of like people, that's so cool that people are jumping in watching it for the first time with us just kind of like my husband is truly watching it for the first time. He's still in love. This good Okay, This one is from Karen says, how long did you have Well, there's a few questions, so we'll just break it up. How long did you have a script before shooting? Good question, Karen, very sensible question. I like it. I know. I'm actually

curious too. We would get like, um, the episode. The We'll be shooting one episode and then we get the new episode, sometimes as late as the day before we started shooting. Um, but sometimes we get it like three days before we start shooting. Yeah, I mean, there were there were times when we weren't getting scripts until the

day of shooting, but that was later. How do they expect you guys to memorize it, because don't you think there was like a first draft that would come out like a shooting script, and then it would change radically I know what she means, like later season. Sometimes things were rushed and there were notes and we never really got to look at the first drafts though. Remever, the

first drafts were kind of not for our eyes. And then they went through and that they would do revisions what's called revisions, and they would every revision is a different color. So the script would come out on white paper, and then you would get your first revision, which was usually either pink or blue. Um that draft would you would add those pages to the white one, and then you would add the pink pages when those came out, because it kept going through changes. I can't like the

rainbow you see her O C D coming out. This is what's important to I'm picturing her binders remember things that she filmed in a show. But she can remember the order of the color of the order. You gotta you gotta have the binder. I got to have the binder, and much I love you. You got to take out the white ones, put in the blue ones right in there, and then you close their back up until you get your new ones. So exciting. I never did that. They just all sat in my room that they didn't even

open them, open them piled up. How had I learn my lines? Yeah, Like I have like a photographic memory, so I'm good at learning lines. Like spending time online isn't good for me because I'll forget it by the time I get there. For me, it's easier to like look it up, pick it up, and move on. To the next scene. Yeah, me too, Okay. Her next question

was how hard is it to memorize the scene? I was just saying this, like, I feel like because I've used my short term memory so much, meaning that like instant recall looking at something on paper one time, looking and picking it up and then going and reciting it in the scene. I've used my short term memory so much that that kind of, you know, I've been shadowed my long term memories. Maybe that's part of it. Is that your story and you're sticking to it. I mean

it works. Yeah, that's crazy. We were we were we would literally like just like look at it. We didn't. They were little. We had the little side because they would staple it together, all your scenes and all the sides, and they were little. Now why would they make them little, like why would they make I don't know, instead of full sized pages like of a regular It doesn't make sense.

Names very round in your pocket. But now like we're old and we all have to have it food please, and we all like on beach and I don't know, it was a joke. I think we added it to a scene because we thought it was so funny that we all needed huge fond printed out and nobody used the many pages anymore. That is hysterical. And back then we had all had perfect vision and yeah, we like glanced at it once and be like, oh a paragraph.

Yeah I haven't memorized, let's go. Our next question was who in particular would be more likely to forget their lines or always had bloopers or reduce. I feel like we all had her share, but I know I'd definitely

forgot my lines a lot. There were times I remember being in the middle of the scene and just flatlining, like completely losing track of what we were doing, where we were, what was was supposed to be happening, and that they would be like there she goes and she would and she'd and she'd like freeze and like pursonal lips look around and she'd be like, I got nothing? What nothing? So funny. But in general, I feel like everyone was pretty on it with their lines. Yeah, I

mean because we did. We didn't. It wasn't like I would go home and maybe peruse the next day's work before I would go to sleep, or before I worked that the day before. But it wasn't like a go home and sit down and study and you know, break it all down very often their room for improv or did you guys really stick to the lines always? We were pretty good about they made a stick tight to that. Yeah. First at first we could add in little inflections, are

little like you know, flavors here and there. But we definitely had to get their words across. And I don't think it even it didn't even really enter our minds to want to improve or that we could. Yeah, we just like must say the words as written like robots. I feel like a lot of the I feel like the boys would put in a little like they would do their handshakes and add like equivalent of like what the new word like bro is. Everything was mapped out for you guys from the lines to like the physical

acting and all that as well. No, no, no, I'm saying like the guys like any of the handshakes, like the that was whatever came down to a little like high fives that the boys did like their head. We did that too. We we brought our own flavor to they did all our stuff. We did too. Though. I feel like the writers were so great about writing to all of our individual sort of voices because they really listen to the way we talked to each other and they they still listen. It was really great to see

that happened. We didn't even know what was happening. Don't you feel like you didn't know what was happening? But then all of a sudden, like Donna and Kelly turned into Torrey and Jenny, but we didn't know. It was like they just did it, like like like a little like puppeteers behind the scenes, like the Wizard of Oz, like all knowing were watching us listening all the time.

Pretty cool, Like it didn't occur to us at the time, like oh, our characters are evolving more into us and becoming more of us, Like we can look back now and see it, but at the time we didn't know. It was just like I felt, right, maybe they had one specific person to easedrop on you guys at all time. That was their job the notes. Who is that person? Maybe it's maybe that was the same person that told Jessica Alba not to look us in the eyes. We don't know, We will never know, but we will never

let that go. One more question from Karen. She really had a lot of them for wardrobe. Did you choose your outfits or did someone select that for you. I feel like we've touched on, touched on this before. But speaking of outfits, before we answer that your little tummy, what was that was the cutest little shirt you were wearing in the school, in the classroom. It barely went below your boobs and your entire midriff was out so tan and taught and cute. She called me tat talt.

Those were the days I didn't even appreciate it. Then I was like, oh, look at that. It's something to see little Tom Tom. Yeah, she was a good one. She's been through a lot now she's still a good one. And another one of the fashion moments was like Steve, every scene he had a new oh Glee shirt on. He had so many shirt changes in this episode. And then it was just like Highways of jeans with a

belt and another big blousy, ugly shirt, big blousy collar. Sure, I feel like like it was like almost Pirates of Penzance kind of ish, but like mixed with like what it was like, I don't know, I don't know what's happening. It was like bad, you know, like when you think of like a comedy, a stand up comic back in the nineties, that's what he dressed like, but that was the style back then. But like apparently, like so here back to your question, like we did have say in it,

and more and more as the show progressed. I think in the first you know, the pilot, we let them do whatever they wanted. We didn't know they were not us first episode as well. But as I started to progress, you know, they started to figure out our individual styles, what worked best on our bodies, what we liked. Um, but we definitely could say, like, know, that doesn't work for me. Like, it's not like you had to wear it. There was a big room, big room full of clothes,

and they would kind of separate it. That means the iron pick those shirts. He gravitated right towards them. Yeah, would it be day of or did you guys go a separate day and do No. You had to do

a fitting for every episode, and they were gruesome. They were like marathons sometimes because sometimes a lot of changes in the next episode, and so while we're filming the episode before, we would have to go in and do your wardrobe fitting for the next episode, sometimes during your lunch hour after work, like early it was Yeah, it

was it's always a lot. Wardrobe is a really tricky, challenging part of acting, I think more so than people even think, because it takes a lot of energy and planning and you know, wardrobe stylists and coordinators or they have a lot of work to do and then the actor comes in it's like, I don't like that. Yeah, that's what they've done so much work. Yeah, but we there was. It was a lot of a lot of

clothes we went through on that show Man. What's so crazy is that the majority of it is back in style in that wish I could go into that room now it looks like H and M or top Shop. Right now, that's all the styles that are crazy. Do you think they linger into one. Do you guys have any New Year's resolutions? Oh? Good questions? New Year's resolutions, it's happening. We're getting the hell out of people, let's hear it. I mean that right there is like I

don't even think we need resolutions for the year. You know what? Crazy enough? I know was horrific on so many levels for so many people. Um, but there were moments of it they gave us pause to kind of go back to what was important, the simpler things. In life like Quarantine as awful as it was, like, let us be with our family. Sometimes life moves really fast.

Who didn't fare Spuelers say that, and you don't get that moment um for Jen and I like we started a lot of passion projects in um we had time to kind of do that and really get our our ducks lined up. That is going to be really amazing. Yeah, yeah, I feel like one, I mean, it's got to be better than So there's that everybody's starting off, you know, in the in the positive. Yeah, I think I think we all have like a new mindset, like you said, Tori,

because of what we went through this year. And I know what's like more important versus like I was just going a hundred miles per hour two before we all paused. So and it really doesn't. It's like a lesson and like you don't like you don't, it doesn't matter what your resolution is, because going to be whatever, it's going

to be, right, You've got no control. Yeah, Remember like every year you'd be like, this is going to be the best year, best year, Like I feel like none of us are saying that anymore because of what happened. We were like we had no idea. You know, we're ringing in whoa, it's gonna be the best year, and then everyone's like whoa. So now we're just like just like, just take it as it comes and go the flow.

Be in the moment, be with your loved ones, focus on the things that are important and good for you, and keep you safe and just go with it and see what happens. That's my resolution. I love that. Like that, Well, ladies, I think it's time to wrap it up and no, no, oh my gosh, wait, this is it. This is it. Yeah, this is our last. This year. Homework assignment will be to watch episode seven, Episode seven coming up next week, everybuddy,

do your homework. Oh my gosh. So by yeah. I always love it at the end of of a year when you and you're done working or seeing people and you can say, okay, see you next year. So it's really like in a week, oh my god. And this was like one of those years they're like, hope's here next year for what's going to happen. But we're there, We're gonna get through it. It's going to happen, so we will. We will definitely see you next year. Um, be safe. See you next year, O m G