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episode with you. I've never watched an episode getting excited to get to see what we actually did. Um, okay, just I'm gonna give you a little preview, a little spoiler alert. You made meaningful television. Oh thanks, so did you. Baby. We're not going to do this alone, though. We have a very special guest. May know her from Ryan Seacrest radio show, but you may not know that she's a

super fan. Sissany. Not everybody, Hi, Sissany. When I first met you, Jenny, she said, I have a really hard I'm gonna have a hard time with your name because I can't do s there's so many in your name. And then she proceeded to tell me that she couldn't say your name, she would never say your name. And I'm like, well, that's going to be a problem because the three of us are doing this peat you just did, I've been working on it. She she low talked it, say it loud and proud. What is her name? Say

your name? Sisy? Well Ryan calls you sis, so I guess we could we could call. I said that to Jenny and she was like, that's harder, and I was like, well, Adam, I don't know, it's just as many. How do you say my last name? Jenny Garth spelling? Okay, Well that wasn't hard. Okay, Well, I'm really glad that you're with us this because you're going to help jog my memory because I have a really hard time remembering all that

went on. But I think as we go through and we watched the episodes, maybe it'll start coming back to I think, no matter what, you guys will have the better memory than even me as a super fan. But you know, we'll go episode pre episode and I'm just I'm gonna just want to be a fly on the wall. But then I also want to just ask the question that like all the fans have. Well not not only that, like we have ten years of all this goodness that

people saw on camera. But along the way, we're going to tell you what happened off camera during each episode and you remember everything. So we're detailed, sister, not to be confused with SIS, which is sisany because we haven't even started yet. So this is episode one of this podcast, and we haven't I guess done our homework and watched episode one of nine two, and oh, why don't we start Tory and Jenny explaining how you guys even got the roles of Kelling. Donna, I just told you I

have a bad memory, and you start out with that question. Okay, who called you first? Was it an agent? What did you audition? Like, give me something. I auditioned, and I think what happened was the casting director I didn't think I was right for the role, so they didn't bring me back in. And then my manager went to his friend that was casting for Spelling and said, can you see her? Can you bring her in? And they brought me back in and then I got the part. I

mean it was so I don't even know. That's crazy, right, Oh my gosh. Stories like that happen all the time. Imagine if it never went any further, Like who could have played Kelly Taylor? I mean, I'm stepped and if you couldn't have done it? But no, but I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful that my manager was persistent and you know, went back and got me the part. Who are you up against? When you screen tested? I screen tested? Well, I assume, I assume. I don't know, like I don't remember.

I remember because I was, you know, behind the scenes and my dad since I was the same age and going through it at the same time that the characters, and my dad was always very hands on. So every night he would come back in his briefcase. Um, I would like click it open, like click click, and and be like, oh, here's the script, and he would have like notes from the day and like, um polaroid photos of everything. Once we went a little further and there

was like hairstyles and wardrobe and everything. But um, yeah, I don't remember the story with you Like that's like I remember hearing hearing him talk about, you know, casting Brenda and Brandon but not Kelly, so that one. Um,

I wasn't privy too. When were you casting. Um. I actually, So I saw the script and I called my agent and I was like, I want audition for this, but like I really like I don't want my dad to give me a role like he always does, Like I actually this is my jam like this is me, like and my friends like I get this, Like I can do this? Can I go in and audition? I had been on Saved by the Bell, so I was like,

I was like, I got this acting thing. Um. And she was like, well, you know they're going to know who you are, and I was like, no, you should tell them I'm coming in under a different name. So I made up a name, Tory Mitchell come on, which was bizarre because I had just seen it. My dad did a movie of the week called uh a blank Uh. Anyway, it was Oh my god, wait Jackie Collins novel Hollywood Wives, um, and I believe it was the character that Heather Lockler

blade in it. Possibly not correct, but um, she was like his lucky lucky actor lucky Penny, so he put her a lot of things. So anyway, I went, I'm like, I don't want them to know it's me coming in, so let me do a different Tory. But let me do a character in one of my dad's shows, like it didn't make any sense, And I went in read for Kelly. You read the part of Kelly I did,

because there was no on it at the time. I think Donna was like friend number one or something in the script like I wouldn't if I had gotten in an audition for Donna, it would have been like Hi, Brenda, and they'd be like nailed it, Like no, like there was you know. So they just had everyone come in and read for the main parts. Ah, what if you had been Kelly and I was Donna? What would happen? Because I could never I'm not a Kelly. I could never have been a Kelly. Yeah, you're a Donna. I

am for sure. I couldn't imagine either. So this is the first time you guys are hearing each other's audition stories after the you've been friends. Now she's heard mine, I've heard it everything. Now do you remember meeting each other for the first time? Yes, you you remember, She remember everything. I do not remember meeting you or any of the casts. I've got no recollection of it. So

they cast everyone. My dad decides on a Sunday morning to have before they started filming to have everyone meet for the first time and have a read through. He did it at his house, which was not the manner. It was the house we lived in before. So he had, you know, bagels and drinks out and he had the casts come over and get to know each other and do a read through informal and he said, do you want to be a part of it? And I was like, no, that would be weird because at the time I wasn't

a serious regular. Um obviously I was friend number one, and they gave me the name Donna because I was the producer's daughter, and they're like, okay, she's Donna now at a couple more lines, and UM, I said, I didn't want to be a part of it because that felt weird. Why would I wasn't a main character, but I was. We had a two story house and the staircase overlooked and went right into the foyer, so I literally watched you from the top. I peeked through, I

watched you walked through. I watched every single person walk through. I feel like Jason and Gabrielle arrived together. Ian and Gabrielle arrived to other together. That's right. I remember that kind of I kind of remember like a big living room, and I kind of remember something on the table, like a bowl full of cigarettes, a bowl of cigarettes. She's accurate. Cigarettes.

They did the read through in my parents projection room, which is like was enormous, probably like the size of my current house, and um, it was a big room that looked like a living room, and then the art would go up on the wall and you could see the projection through it, and then a screen would come down, so by day it was a living room. By weekend

night it was a projection room. And my mom had this thing where she would keep bowls out on the tables of candies, little chocolate Hershey's kisses and little bars and cigarettes because she smoked at the time. That goes together candy and cigarettes, but it did. Luckily I didn't smoke seriously as a teenager. My friends would come over at like sixteen and be like, is this a joke? And they'd be like, I'm like, you can't touch it. They'd be like, are you tempted to eat the candy

to like sneak off smoke the cigarettes? And I never was because I was like, well, it's here every day. It's like my everyday life. So I didn't touch it. You weren't tempted by it at all. No, So, okay, the cast comes over. They're all sitting down in the smoky room. Did you eventually come down? I never came down. I wasn't a part of it. So who do you think was cute? Yeah? So now your memory, Jenny, it's so hard to not call you guys, Callian Donna. By

the way, I'm like sitting here staring at you. We're so used to it. Okay, um, so Jenny responded, any name? Okay, do you remember sitting down? Who you sat next to? Who did you think was cute? At first? I do remember just being really nervous, and I was young and super green. I had hadn't done that much acting, and um, I just remember being really nervous and in my own head, you know, and and like it was kind of surreal, like like this room is happening, this what this is

happening right now? But that's pretty much all I remember. Did you have your lines highlighted? Did you have notes in your script? Knowing me? I had a binder with the scene dividers and my pen my pin protector. She's an undercover nerd. Yeah, how how do you guys mind saying how old you guys were when the show kicked off? I was I sixteen. I drove there, so I must have been sixteen sev when we did the pilots. Yeah, you were sixteen when the when the pilot by time

we went on the air and start filming the series. Yeah, so I was fifteen, you were sixteen. Just making reference again that she's one. Yeah, yeah, you're all know. We all know I'm a year older. By the way, you guys, this happens on a monthly basis that she'll ask me how old she is. She doesn't remember. I'm not kidding. She ages herself up. Remember a couple of years ago you said you were two years older, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

you're not that. But I don't stopped doing that. It's the numbers are getting too high that I don't go up anymore. You're like, this affects me when you do that. She forgets yeah, because then it ages me. So now, okay, so you meet Dorry did not come downstairs because she was too scared or embarrassed or whatever it was. Now you get to the set for the first time to actually start shooting. Is it in Beverly Hills? Like? Where? Where? Where did you guys drive to? Where do you go?

First set was I think the high school and we we shot that at Torrance High School, which is deep in the heart of Los Angeles. It's south, it's almost Orange County. Yeah, it was far. It was so far. I had never driven that bar, and I ive ever driven anywhere out of Beverly Hills. Let's be truthful. I mean, I would like to clarify that Jennifer Eve I lived in bel Air, not Beverly Hills. Oh sorry, sorry, sorry,

What about you, Jenny? Where did you grow up? I grew up in a rural Illinois um, like on a farm way way out in the country. Yeah. Quite different than the character actually that I was playing. So then you moved out here at a pretty young age. Uh. Yeah. I came out here when I was sixteen, fifteen, fifteen or sixteen to pursue acting to Yeah. I mean, well, here's the thing. I was in a dancing pad. Gent Please don't ever find that video and one of the

we're going to find that because you said that. Wait, wait, wait, I love the story. Excuse me? We're fing a podcast. Sorry, wait, tell the story of how you used to put vasiline on your teeth for the pageant. I love that story. I remembered it was fascinated. Well you love this story because you love giving me about my giant teeth. Okay, well, what's our famous thing like when we're somewhere My god,

I'm trying to tell a story. Go ahead. I used to be remember how when we're like, so we have we have this thing where uh like uh like uh when at tention breaker has to be done like an elevator for stressed. I'll look over and I just see teeth and I'm like, put those teeth away. And then she says, put that face away, and I'm like, fair, that was a fair assessment. Good point. No, I love your face. So what's the vassaline story? Was that it?

There's probably a lot of vassoline stories, but the one I have is um, I used to every dancer did that put vassoline on their teeth, are like in their gums to make so you could smile longer. It's the pageant and you're so your lips would like glide over your gyormous teeth. That was the hope anyway. But anyway, so yeah, I was in a dancing pageant and one of the judges was Randall C. James, and he said to me, my wife and I think you have something special.

Come into this room and see if you can act. No, but it was very weird, but my mom and I met with them, and then we decided to start taking acting classes where I was living in Arizona at the time, and we started taking I started taking acting classes and sending him the tapes of like My progress. Uh, And eventually it was time to just move to l A. And so my mom and I packed our bags and drove from Phoenix to l A and rented a little apartment and I started auditioning. And I was like a

knock knock on Randy James's door. Hi, I'm here now. But the funny thing is, I saw you and I'm blinking out Barbara Eden. What was the show? A brand New life? A brand new life? M uh And I'm sorry, I'm just having a drink of wine. Cheers. I love you. Oh you have something now? Good? M six? When is the thirst sis? I didn't have time to go get a glass of wine. Okay, next time, we're having mom Juice all the plane ahead. So I watched her in

a Brand New Life on NBC before this show. So when she did get the part, and I knew who she was and I loved I loved that show and I thought you were so adorable and beautiful. And I had the biggest teeth I've ever seen. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. First teeth. I loving the first teeth. Oh my god, I'm gonna kill you. So, Okay, you guys don't really remember meeting each other per se, But do you remember any of the other cast members? The

first time meeting Luke, first time meeting Jason. So Luke wasn't in the pilot, right, it was just all all of us. I huh. The only person I remember meeting is Brian. Oh she shocker. What you saw? Like stars and rainbows? And what is that? I did? You? Did? You got like the butterflies? Yeah? Yeah, Like, you know, we were the same exact age, and all the boys were older. Jason was pretending to be older to fit in and like, but he was older a little bit.

He's like what three or four years older, but still like, you know, he was hanging with Iron and Gabrielle and being cool, and Shannon was kind of in the middle friends with all of us. But I came on set and Brian and I both had to go to school, so we had to is that why do you call it? Call it? What? Is that? What you call it? School? No, we had we were you. I don't know you were

a special breed. You didn't have to do school. I'm Brian and I had to do school and set so we had a school teacher and we would have to go do our school work in between scenes the flirting. I mean, I've never been so excited to go to school in my whole life. You bonded over math geometry. So my first memory of Jennifer Eve is Marianne Moore's party. When you when you call me Jennifer Eve, do you think people think you're mad at me? Or nobody calls

me Jennifer? You know, it's my favorite thing in life is to call her by her full name because I love her name so much and it just I don't know, and she'll be like mad about it, but I see the little like smile, so I know that she loves I call her that. Deep down, I do I do, and I love when she tries to say my middle name. She's known me for thirty years and she gets it wrong every time. No, it's not Victoria, Dave asked me. That's not I know what it is. It's Victoria David.

I hate you. I like this, Dave. No, it's not okay, she's not even kidding right now, Davy David did Davy Davy Victoria David. That's interesting. And then there was David Silver on the show and he, I guess your your dad really does love that name from that any origin. So it was his dad's name. Oh, so that's why they couldn't They want to put David in my middle name because I'm a girl. So it was Davy Davy. I'm never going to forget it now. Yeah, next time

you asked me, I'm going to remember. She says that every time, last twenty years. You aren't kidding with your memory. Oh why would I joke about that? I can't remember. It's not fun. Be like, what's my full name? Should be? Like Viola Davis. She'll have no idea. It's Victoria Davy, the vicinity, you know, like I got one of them right, So okay, let's go show ahead to tell your story. Oh, so I remember my first memory of you Marianne Moore's party. So in the pilot, there was a popular girl. We

call her Lips. Uh that do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, she has the most beautiful we'd ever seen, the lips we'd ever seen. Yeah, I'd never seen lips like that before, and they were just mesmerizing. Nowadays they're a diamond dozen because girls get their lips done. But this girl had good lips, the kind you like, the kind girls get done like you. You would carry in a picture and be like, I want these lips, give me, give me the filler. But they were just so like yummy.

So so we called her lips McGhee, your lip McGee, lips mcke No, that was you, So you bonded over lips McGee. She was a popular girl. Everyone was invited to her party and it was a big scene that was filmed at I don't even some big mansion in the Hollywood Hills, um And it was the first time we filmed. We filmed like an all nighter because it was a night so we started at night. We didn't wrap till the sun came up. That used to be

so fun. By the way, that were young, right, We're like, oh, this is so cool, Like I got to stay out all night. And I remember the scene specifically because it was a three shot of you, me and Shannon and we were standing there like watching the party. I'm sure we can find the clip. I don't remember, but I just remember the three of us off camera had so much fun and we all laughed and that was the first time we were all like, oh, well, this could

all be a real friendship and it was really fun. Ah. It must be nice that you remember that and you've got nothing, Jenny, like you remember that at all. No, I remember only because I've seen a picture of it. I've seen that, like a clip of that exact scene what you're talking about, But I don't remember being there. When do you remember me like the first time? Ah,

that's a tricky question. Mm hmm. If I see pictures, it reminds me, and then it kind of drags something and I I can I don't know if I'm remembering it or if I'm just seeing the picture and thinking I remember it. I don't know how the brain works. But remember the rat party for the pilot M I think I remember that, hold that thought. We have to take a break. We'll be right back. Um, your skin is glowing. Something you want to share with me? Oh? You know what there is? I have been using this

little at home beauty device I'll the zip. Uh talk to me about it. It is amazing. It's connected to an app that you download on your phone and it's like having your own facialist in your living room with you or in your bedroom with you, and she walks you through on the app how to do it? You know what. Melanie is the creator of this amazing thing, and we have her on the line. I want to hear from Melanie all about this. Melanie. Okay, so I'm out of town. When I get home, I am trying

to tell me. Now, I'll be the aesetician with you in the bathroom. I feel like I know you. That is such a cool concept. I love that, and I love people say they feel like they know me because they're so used to the videos. They watch them so often when they're zipping right. How does it work? I'm an electrical esthetician. I made that up. I have a wall of devices. It's a treatment. I come and you know,

like let's say prep you for the red carpet. It's this whole ordeal and I always wanted to bring this to the world, but it had to be in a modern way, and I had to do it through an app where you could actually choose the treatment you want for the outcome. So let's say, like you really want Donna's big do eyes. You can go onto the app, click the Vitalized treatment and it'll be a treatment that's all about deep puffy, waking up the what is brightening

the eyes. Yes, I did that one today. I did the deep puffer today because I had a bad dream and I woke up and I thought, I'm gonna be puffy for my first podcast, and I used that one. Jen It's been real. I it's been great being best friends for thirty years. But I'm gonna have to upgrade to Melanie. I'm sorry. My skin is a priority. Why. There's just endless things that you can do well thanks to you. We have a special discount code for listeners.

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what was going to happen. And um, I was totally like in the pilot crushing on Brian and we had school together and he used to tease me, and I call it quote unquote pulling my pigtails because he would like get under my skin and I'd be like, oh my god. He Um. But then I was forming friendships with Jenny and Shannon and and we're having all the this girl bonding and I just remember the rap party where I was like, do you want to go to

the rat party together? And I was like, okay, cool, yeah, Well Shannon invited me to the rat party, so we'll all go together. And then he flaked on me, and um, Shannon, he stood you up. He just didn't show up to take I don't remember. I just remember he was like, I'll call you, we'll go together, like all of us it was like, and then it just didn't happen. And then, uh,

Shannon and I got blowouts in Beverly Hills. We got dressed at my parents at the Manor because we were now at the Manor at this point, and then we went to Spago. The rat party was at Spago. Do you remember this now? It was a different and that's going to be a different story. Oh yeah, so there's gonna be a running theme here with with pukes. But

hold on, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So it was at Spago and Spago Wolfgang Puck, Beverly Hills, infamous Hollywood Beverly Hills iconic restaurant, famous for one of their dishes, famous for their spaghetti. So um yeah, so they had little things spaghetti. I got to the party and I drank and I don't know how I got drinks because I was sixteen, but somehow I snuck drinks at the party.

At the rap party, I saw Brian. He was like, oh, hey, what's up, because you know, he probably was like, oh whatever, we're cool, and I was like, oh my good. So then I snuck drinks after I had eaten the spaghetti, and I just remember the next thing, uh I knew. I was in the bathroom with Shannon an Tony Shephard are casting director, and I was puking my guts out and and I just remember him being like, did she have noodles? And she was like, yeah, she did not

enough clearly didn't absorb. This is really going I then came home. I got grounded. I was grounded for a month because I came home and he had to like Shannon Antony had to be like, sorry, your daughter drink. We're not sure how she got the alcohol. It's like when you drink at a bar, mitzvah, like no one knows. Um. Yeah, I came home and my mom was furious that I drank and I was grounded for a month. Super cool. Well, I'm glad that they grounded you because, yeah, you know,

at least they were watching out for you. Yeah, that is actually nice to hear that you still were like a normal kid and got in trouble and didn't get away with everything. And we were only on the pilot. It was just things hadn't taken off yet. What else

happened at this party. I don't remember anything. The only memory because yeah, yeah, I was like so when you have I don't know much about TV rap parties or anything like that, but like, I guess when you film a pilot, it's common to have a celebratory party just in case, a rat party. That's what they call it, a rat party. It's a wrap. You gotta get with that. I got that much. How did it take you guys to film the pilot? I think two weeks probably, I'll

go with that. So you guys feeling good about it? Did you have any idea it would blow up into the monster that it became. We didn't. We we were just kids having fun doing what we were told to do. Literally, they told us what to do from the moment our eyes opened to the moment we went to sleep, practically, what to eat, where to go, when to go to the bathroom, what to wear, what to say. I mean, wrap your head around that. That's a whole another discussion.

But we didn't know what we were getting into, and we had no idea that it would be successful at that point. No, when do you guys start filming? So if it gets picked up, then you go you end up starting to starting to film the next episodes? Or do you You don't do that until someone picks it up. Yes, up, Fox picked it up, and we I think there was like a couple of months break and then we all got back together and started on episode one. Yeah, how

do you keep the love relationships offset versus on set? Like? How do you like your teenagers? Like? Your hormones are probably going crazy. I when I was your sixteen I've had a crush on everybody. So how did you guys control? How were you professional? I guess is my point? I don't know you any different? Were you not? I think we were all just really we were all very prideful of doing our jobs, like we wanted to be good at what we were doing, each one of us in

our own individual ways. And we also wanted to support one another as an ensemble. And we didn't even know we were doing that, but what that's what we were doing originating that bond and we had We were sequestered in um this really not very nice sound studio in Van Nuys, California, and we all had dressing rooms like in a row, and they were just you could hear everything that was going on, and then of dressing room next to you, on top of each other, not an

al cove. It was like a m what's the word? A circle, like a you sape, like a what would that be. It was almost like a little apartment many apartment building, where like you're just like all these little, tiny little rooms, but you're all in this. No, yeah, I'm not sure what. I just remember my dressing room was right by the bathroom, so I just kept hearing the toilet flush all day. But she's so professional, she never even asked to be moved. Oh why would I

I like the sound of toilets. You were around the corner. Yeah, I was far away from from you guys. Maybe they did that for oh, separate the girls. M hmmm. I don't know, Like was there cattiness at the beginning. I mean no, I don't recall cattiness in general. I don't think any of us had those intentions really, or that even that you know, or to know how to even write. Yeah, we were just like, yeah, okay, what's your call time? What's my call time? Yeah? But it all it all

sort of went to hell after that. No, I'm just kidding. Well, I think it's going to be a bitter sweet to relive all these memories because it was a roller coaster I'm assuming right. I hate roller coasters? Oh you hate them? I do? They terrify me, so let's do this one that you would find like a Disneyland, not a crazy one.

I like doing things to scare me. Yeah, it was definitely we did not know what we were getting into, and um, we kind of the show flew under the radar for the first I don't even know a few months that we started airing and nobody was really watching it. Well, Fox wasn't even a major network at that time. Box was just a very small syndicated affiliate, so not a lot of people were able to watch the show. Oh my gosh, there was what like Mary with Children and

the Simpsons and Ali McBeal. We know these things because we used to have like that's who they would socialize us with at events. I was really young and came party of five when the show started. Um, the only reason I really kind of knew about it was because I have an older sister who's eight years older than I. And then I probably I started watching it at a way too young of an age. I mean, I want

to say I was maybe I don't know. I probably came in on like season two or three and I was eight or nine and my parents, my parents are immigrants, Like they didn't really pay attention to what we were doing as kids. And you know, it was in the early nineties, like to them, like had the television in the house was like the coolest thing ever. So they didn't care. And so what you're saying is we taught you guys, taught me a lot. Sorry about that, Mom

and Dad. Looking back, I just remember, like our music was good, our music of your genre, of your age. Yeah, like they had huge songs. Yeah we did. We got great musical content on that show. I don't I don't know that people get to see or hear that now because I've it's not licensed or something, so when they do play it on Hulu or whatever, it's different music. I've what are you are you saying? Like later on in the seasons when um, what was it peach Pit

after dark? Not then? Like even like the whole the infamous Brenda and Dylan car scene where she freaks out because he screw Hams at her Maholland drive. What was the song Losing My Religion? Yes, that's what it was. Everyone remembered that because I don't know as young, like even though we were on the show, we were also going through the same things off camera because we were

the same age. So just remember when you would like watch a movie or watch a show and you associated a song and you'd be like, that could be my love story, that could happen in my life, and you would play it. So everyone listened to that song and thought of Brenda and Dylan and then like, oh my god, that could happen to me. Like I went through that same thing with Brian, and I'm just kidding. I was like, that could be me. All Right, well, let's take a

break and we will come right back. Okay. So we kind of touched on this earlier, but I saw your post on Instagram tor of Brian Austa green and Jenny and like you kind of a reminiscing in it a little bit, and when you were talking about him pulling your pigtails and the flirting, and I almost didn't want to sound like I didn't know, because there was no TMZ back then, Like there was no liked Tiger Beat

magazines like Tiger b that's what it was called. And so I guess I didn't know the gossip per se as a fan, Like, was there an actual relationship between you and Brian Austin green Well We'll have to get to that because this there's we had ten years of history. That's all I have to say. And there you know, we grew up together and there were crushes, there were not crushes, there were there was many things that happened.

But what I can't say is that it it ended up being like a very great, amazing friendship dead I cherish and I'm grateful for. I don't know, I have no words, but yeah, oh wait, I want to know. Wait, what's we're getting ahead? Can I ask you a question? Who me? Yeah? Oh? Hi? You you and the turtleneck?

Can I ask you a question? So obviously you know everyone was either Kelly and Dylan or Kelly and Brandon, and kind of as a fan because all my friends and I used to watch every week every Wednesday night, my high school friends would come over and we would watch the episode as if I wasn't in. It was

so weird. But I want to know, like, because everyone dreams of like Kelly and Brandon, like when you first met Jason, would you think When I first met Jason, I remember thinking he was so handsome, like so mysterious and like moody looking, and he was smoking cigarettes and like I just thought he was dreaming anything. Yeah, those eyes they like not even human blue eyes eyes. I've never seen anything in real life like that. No, he has beautiful eyes. He does. I forgot. He used to smoke,

so like the opposite of Brandon, which is so funny. Yeah, he was rugged. He was like a tough guy. Like I don't know, I had never really seen anybody like that. I don't think we need there. He's a cutie. Yeah. I thought he was too cool for me. I couldn't even talk to him. I couldn't try. I didn't even try. I was like, I don't know that. That's Brandon. He

used to lead. So that was at it, like no matter what Brian, because he was my age, you know, like and then Jenny and Shannon, you stayed in your lane. I stayed in my lane. Yeah. It's interesting that that ended up becoming the story reline in the show. So, I mean, there's so much more to this, and you're not telling the story. Hmm. I think it happens. It unfolds as the show kind of unfolds. Our lives together

all unfolded, and maybe we'll get to that. Maybe we'll get to that, Maybe we Will And that's that's the gist of like how you know, I mean, as a fan, you you have all these like nine O two one o is ms you know that are just iconic. Um, everyone knows what the peach pit is. I wonder why they called it a peach pit, Like what was the thinking behind I don't know either. I heard I don't know.

I read this somewhere. I heard it that it was inspired by another Landmark restaurant called Apple Pan in l A where they had burgers and yeah, so apple Pan. They were like, that's iconic, Like it's kind of the vibe because like a diner, so peach pit, Apple Pan

peach pit. Okay, it's like literally so literal. Would you guys ever get stopped on the streets by fans that would just like either be mad at your character or yes, I had a lot of people, Um, they always wanted to ask me questions about Brandon or about Dylan, or people were mad at me for breaking up Dylan and Brenda.

Oh my god, I have so many questions about that because I mean there were definitely like two camps like m like they all love Dylan, but they're like I want him to be with Brenda or I want him to be with Kelly. I can imagine the Brenda camp was probably pretty pissed. Yeah, they weren't happy with me. You know. Shocking and it all happened. But this is the stuff that will dive into I guess per episode ye ye pulled on. I feel like in the pilot Steve and Kelly, it was kind of set up that

it was going to go that way. Yeah, you guys came back from summer and I think that you I had my license by then. Kelly and Steve were either just broken up or you're going to get back to it. That's what it was. We just broken up and that's how it kicks off. Yeah, we had just broken up. So I think, if I remember correctly, Steve was always trying to get back with Kelly and Kelly was trying to get away from Steve. But um, we did. I think we dipped back a few times here and there.

I just remember kissing him once, so we must have gotten back together for a minute. Uh wait, is that the story when he made you rehearse and said, oh, you're supposed to rehearse kissing, so come rehearse. How did that go? That's that's the story. I don't know what episode that happened in, do you know? But when we see it, we'll be able to then go back and be like, Hey, that's the episode, and then you can tell us all about it. I will, I will. Okay,

I've heard you talk enough for one episode. I need to hear about the show. Let's start watching this thing. I'm so ready to watch it, are you. I'm like nervous a little bit because it's bringing up so much of our childhood. Like I'm excited and nervous at the same time. As that makes sense, Yeah it does. What about the love scenes? Does that make you, guys feel awkward when you watch yourself dude love scenes? Yeah, that's gonna be weird. I mean, but I did so many.

She's uh, from my viewing experience, a really great technical on camera kisser. Does that mean anything to you, guys, No, because there's some m there's some people that you're like, wait, it's on camera, and some people just like do it weird and just mash lips and you're like, no, one kisses like that. If you were in the heat of passion,

like you would open your mouth a little bit. Some people on camera swallow your face and you're like, wow, Okay, that doesn't look No one wants to see that because that's not pretty on camera. And I just remember you were always such a beautiful kisser on camera. Why thank you. I'm going to write that on my gravestone. Beautiful kisser

on camera. Yeah, I dare you. Well, ladies, we have some options because obviously it's available on a lot of platforms, like on Hulu you can watch part one and part two of the pilot, and then on Amazon it's all one episode. So isn't that weird? Like why, yeah, I'll tell you why. The first the pilot was a two It was meant to be a movie. It was a two hour situation. It was meant to be like a two hour special thing. And then for programming reasons, they

cut it in half. I don't have any idea how they just cut it in half because it was written as one thing. Wait, Jen, what do you mean a movie like a movie of the week? Was that backdoor pilot or supposed to be? I don't really know. I don't know all that stuff, but I remember the director was Tim Hunter, who was at that time a really successful film director. And um, he did such a beautiful job with a pilot. But I remember that they said it was supposed to be a two hour thing and

they Fox wanted it to be a two parter. So should we watch it as one ninety minutes situation? Or should we watch did it air originally on Fox in two weeks or just one episode like a long one? I think it was two two weeks? Whoa half when you were I think we should watch the complete ninety minute though, I feel like we should just go in for the whole pilot episode. Yeah, okay, okay, I'm game right,

let's do that. Let's watch the whole thing. More lips, more more lip McGee if we want the whole episode, ninety minutes more beautiful woman that lip McGhee. Who Maryanne Moore? Jen? Remember I sent you a picture Ian and I saw her like two years ago in real life. In real life, I saw saying you a picture of us with her. I don't remember. She was on head of the class, you guys, Um she was famous? Like, um, what's her name? Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Is

it Leslie? Leslie? Leslie Bega Bega with a B B Leslie Bega. By the way, when I saw her a couple of years ago, still just as intoxicatingly beautiful, and her lips looked great. Let me just tell you you have lip lip envy a little bit. Well, there you have it. We're just getting I feel like we're just getting started, truly, and especially because we haven't seen any episodes together. Literally, there's so much more Togever. I feel like you guys are holding back, if I'm being quite honest,

what you're holding back. I know that there's so much more juice that we need to be uncovered. We are. We're like, we're running that. We're like podcast virgins basically, so we're like we are We're not really sure yet, like yeah, like should we go there? Should we not go there? You have to go there, We're going there, and that this is just the beginning. We're gonna have to push us to second base. Sure, will