If you've listened to a lot of Brett Brown over the years, and I have, it's a part of the gig, a really great part of the gig. They're probably certain signature isms and phrases of his that you can buy now rattle off the top of your head, things like tonight, we're gonna guard, you know, a water bug, or something such as this. We want to play with pace, we want to play with space, and we want to guard Whenever a seventy six or season comes to an end.
You can also back on Brown, inevitably bringing up this next concept, the notion that the offseason ahead holds the key to a player's success the following year. When I watch our guys come back to a man, you can tell in two seconds like what did you do over the summer. The last couple of months since the Sixers playoff run ended with a second round loss of the Boston Celtics, it's been pretty well documented, especially on social media, just how much work members of the roster have been
putting in in the gym. Ben Simmons has been primarily based out of Los Angeles to do anything during the season that I wasn't comfortable doing because you know I've been working this summer. I've been working a lot one certain things that I'll definitely use. The same goes from Marquel Folks, Markuel. People are going to see the results during the season and that's all that matters. And Joel Embiid, He's been a little bit of everyone. Like in Africa.
I love being on the basketball card and I love doing this. That's my job, but also you gotta want to love it. That's what I'm about. Regardless of where their players have been during the summer, the Sixers are still keeping close tabs on their activities and what they're up to, and on this episode of the broadcast will speak with Chris Babcock, one of the team's coaches who's responsible for didn't just that as well as putting together
He's Sixer's offseason at development program. Hey there, and welcome back to the broadcast, Bryan Seltzer. But I got back into the office last week after the Labor Day holiday.
It got me thinking, I'm sure, much like many of you, that the summer for all in tens and purposes is over finished, gone by, just like that, which then got me thinking more about the team and what the players have been up to over the last few months, and this notion that Brett Brown has talked about at the end of each of his previous five seasons that the summer months the offseason in his mind, that holds the key to the foundation being laid for a players success
the following season. So I figured the timing was good to try and track down our guest on this episode of the podcast. His name is Chris Babcock. He has been an assistant for the Sixers since Brett Brown's first year in two thirteen two fourteen. The season before that, the two of them overlapped in San Antonio on Gregg
Popovich's staff. Chris comes from a recognizable basketball family, has a ton of experience in the sport, both playing and coaching, and one of his key responsibilities with the Sixers is helping structure the blueprint for each player's offseason regiment. And as Timey would have it, the day we recorded the podcast was the same day that NBA Twitter and Instagram erupted when both Ben Simmons and Lebron James posted photos of themselves sitting next to each other after a workout
in New York City. So it was on that note that Chris and I dove into talking about the seventy sixers player development program. There's so much work that you guys put into structuring these offseason plans for the players. It can't hurt to have someone of Ben's ilk coming in still so green, but with such great potential in this game to further relationship like that and absorb whatever it could be for however long those two guys were on the court together, you would think, oh, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely man. Obviously Lebron is one of the best ever to play this game. Though Brett Brand it seems like I feel like and you could probably do a better job at this than I could. That there are certain isms and sayings and pray is that are just staples for Brett, And it seems like at the end of the year, whenever the season ends, something that he brings up in his press conferences is that the key to the entire next season is what goes on in the summertime.
And you're thrust with your responsibilities right in the middle
of that. So why don't you give us a general oversight of what it is you do and how you try to help these guys causes in the summer so our whole staff is involved in all this, and each of our guys are kind of assigned certain guys during the off season, and you know, we coordinate plans with them first off of like travel plans depending when our season ended, travel plans, what guys have like commitments to whether it's weddings, you know, so be like personal vacations
and uh, we have a structured plan of what we want for them to accomplish on the court for the summer and do our best to do it either with them in a certain area, them coming back here year. Um. And over the past few summers, I've um, you know, aside from just doing in Philadelphia, I've had some unique trips as well, um, going with players all over the world and uh for instance, like this summer, uh started out went with t J McConnell to his uh, his
his old stomping grounds at the University of Arizona. We did a few workouts there. Uh he spoke at a one of Sean Miller's camps. But uh, you know, it's always cool to go see where guys went to school. The two years before, Todd Wright and I went with Joel to Kansas and uh, um, you know, just very
it's a it's a unique experience. The you know, the guys i've are usually very very very proud of what they had accomplished there and what they've done in relationships and um, you know, those two guys we saw right like the minute they step on campus, everyone's coming to say hello to them. You know, everybody teach and Joel. I mean it's obviously separate campuses, but they are just beloved there. Um. So those were two of the college
visits that we've done in the past few years. And after that, I went back and forth to the Los Angeles a few times. Some are Kel out there, saw Joel out there. I miss Ben He was actually in China at the time. Um. Obviously Los Angeles not a bad place to be during the summer, and there's a there's um you know, Joel and Mark Eli spent a bunch of time with Drew Hanlon out there and great guy, really good on the court. Um, you know, so we
go out there and visit them. Uh. One of the days I actually had to Joel like incredibly obviously good guy and everybody just loves to be around he. Uh, we went to go play tennis with Steve Nash, who is in I mean it's great of a player at basketball players. He is, he is a just an incredible overall athlete. Before it went to go see TJ play in the charity soccer game, and they have all a bunch of pros out there, and Steve Nash literally looks just exactly like an ex pro soccer player. Um. And
playing tennis. I mean I'd played him before and he is he isn't just an incredible athlete, but Joel plays a bunch of tennis. They went out there and played some doubles, they hit around singles wise and uh it was um you know. Then after that they went and grabbed some food and Joel does everything to pick everybody's brain. Uh, he's just such an intelligent guy and takes a bit from everybody that he that he meets, so very good obvious experience for everybody there, and um, keep building off
of that. We went to Joel went to did he did the Basketball without Borders in Johannesburg. Um, I went there to and visited him there. Uh, incredible experience and I'd never been to Africa and Johannesburg was beautiful. I wish I would have been there earlier. UM, like a lot of the guys, a lot of the players that were down there are coaches went down a few days early,
did their own Safari's. Um. It was just a really really cool experience that a bunch of workouts got to meet a bunch of other NBA players and coaches and everybody that was down there was fantastic. Um. We did a habitat for humanity down there. So there's a few like, um, non basketball related things that were really cool and unique. And uh, you know that Joel was they obviously I
can't remembers. They called like the Africa Game and be Africa game and um, I had actually leaved that day and flew from Johannesburg to Croatia then to go visit dark So you missed the behind the back dribble sequence play that he had there. I did, I was. I was actually at the airport and I was just watching the game on on the TV there. UM, but unfortunately did not get experienced that in person. You were off
to somewhere else. Another jet setting venture for you, right yeah, yeah, yeah, another long flight which uh, I don't know how I didn't really understand how long those flights are but Johannesburg flew up to a head a flight through Germany and then um, Dario's from shipack and Dario apologize if I said that wrong, but uh, we flew into Split, Dario picked me up, Um went down to his home. He picked you up personally, yep, yeah, guy, oh he's oh, he's great and um. And actually he picked me up
and showed me. We went to through Split and he showed me some of some of the historical sites um, and went to grab like some local food there. Um. And then he drove me to Shivneck, which was about an hour drive and I'd never been a Croatia, so we like he could have done like the forty five minute drive. We went the hour thirty minute like along
the coast and unbelievably beautiful. I mean, as you're flying into Croatia, you can see all the islands and um, yeah, next time I go there, I bringing my family there. So it's a beautiful, beautiful country. Um. And then uh um Dario showed me around there. They have the draws and Petro Rich Court that's right up there. Um, you know a lot of a lot of good basketball history. That's around there's aside from it being it's a beautiful kind of travel vacation place, it's uh, I'm got a
lot of good history basketball. And then he took me. He actually he does these jogs there, um that are right along the coast. Um. First of all, to see him, like, you know, hit his size, he just you know, kind of just throws on his T shirt and he's going. He has his little trail he went jogging. I feel like he has a very distinct gait about him too, you know, I could see his running form being very distinct. Yeah, yeah,
he's great. And um, you know it, uh the trail went up to the top of this hill if you want to call it, and overlooked. H I don't watch the show, but Game of Thrones, yeah of course, of course. Yeah whatever looks like one of the one of the sites there. And it's mean, it's incredibly beautiful. And uh
so we did that. His whole family had me over for dinner and to like they the food they had was on believable, Like they're they live right next to the sea, so everything was like freshly caught and uh it was it was a very good experience. What type of casine. Is it is anything like the stink to that um particular region or is it influenced by other scenes in the area. What would you compare it to. I don't have a good answer for you that we're talking, Like,
are the other pastas or their fish dishes? There's fish, there's pasta, there was. It was a wide variety. It was incredibly good. Like it. Uh, his mom did mostly cooking, if I'm not mistaken, it was it was really good. There were a lot of you know, mostly seafood is what we had. It's awesome. Yeah, well there's a ton
to unpacked from all that. Um, two things I need to ask about before I forget Based on what you just said, Um, I can imagine t J. McConnell will get a hero's welcome on campus at the University of Arizona, But how is Dario received at home in Croatia. I gotta think it's like rock star level. I would think I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah, it's a I mean he is. Um, it's different, you know, like well, like we were walking around splits, you know, people do come
up and ask for their picture. Um. The culture there's different though, like they're not like uh, he didn't get bothered a ton. Um. I mean, ever, everybody knew who he was, the kind of like I mean they said stuff and crows. I try to pick up a few words that. Um, but uh, I mean he's the I mean he's he's everybody there knows who he is. I could see him being like, um, I don't know, I guess like in high school or colleges are just the
things that I'm thinking of. There's like use that expression phrase like oh it's it's the mayor of campus or it's like I could just see him being the gregarious, outgoing person that people they just know and uh, you know, obviously he's the terrific athlete basketball player, but just has that type of disposition that that people gravitate to. Um. The other thing I wanted to follow up on, uh, just to make sure I heard you set correctly. Steve
Nash and Joel and Need were a doubles pairing. It was actually, uh, Joel and I versus Steve and his wife and she's also very good. Yeah yeah, um, so it's Joel. Um, he would be a servant. You would do serving volley with Joel? Right or no? Or do you keep him back. Uh, we did a lot of serving volleys. Uh. His serve was good that day. Um. When he had been playing, Um, I think maybe it was two summers ago. He got to a point he was playing a lot and he was his serve was
very good, topspin, slice flat. How does he h? How does he do it? Um, he's got a very good for so fourhand. He's got a I mean so so servey gun. It does like he has a pretty good kick serve with a little spin on it. Um. And obviously with his heights he's just hitting down so it comes at you had a very good speed. But uh, um, Yeah, he's actually despite his size, he actually more of a finesse tennis player when you play him in singles. Um, like loves to do drop shots. He's got a good touch.
But it was It was a fun experience. And this seems too in your role as assistant director player Development, it seems to be all encompassing. And I'm sure that in season you have a lot as the team does more control over what these guys are doing or just direct contact, but in the summer, clearly there's a lot of effort being made to stay in touch with these guys.
For as much as you can share. Going back to putting together the individual programs for each of these guys, I remember Brett saying after the Boston series that each player the morning after. I mean, it sounds incredibly efficient. It starts, it sounds like pretty early in the morning, and guys are given a folder with a couple of different documents. Can you kind of break down exactly what
you guys craft and when you start planning their offseason development? Yeah, so, I mean in past years we had unfortunately been able to start playing their off season at the known date that our season was gonna end. And um, you know this year with the playoffs, Um, obviously we were hoping
to go further. But um, you know, when we have days in between, we were we were playing our guys um offseason developments and already kind of communicating with them just a little bit just of what big stuff they had and you know, weddings and such. But um, we've we uh once, you know, I mean we didn't we we didn't intend to end on that date. So um, when that happened, you know, like you know, but just like obviously the you know, not a good feeling to
get it not your your season ended. UM. But uh yeah, right from there, I mean I like we had to pull up the documents, get everything ready and UM, you know we communicated not only with them, with our agent UM and like most of the guys, uh, you know, Brett's great with like like it's not just us telling them of like, this is what you need to do. It's it's a collaborative UM decision on what's what what
needs to be done in the offseason. And we're talking more it's not just Uh, I would think it's probably not just hey, get on a court and do this. Is it more nutrition base, how holistic? What are what's everything that goes into it? Yeah, so each guy will get uh you know there's usually four four to five very detailed on the basketball court, UM, skilled acquisitions that we'd like them to focus on. UM. Todd, Todd, Wright and toador usually come up with strength and conditioning UM.
And they communicate uh with whoever they're also going to be with throughout the rest of the summer. That like if they have to go home for you know, three weeks, they communicate with whatever guys can be working them out down there. And UM. Yeah, so everybody's on the same page and gets done very efficiently. Before I ask you about some specifics, Um, how did you notice the way the season ended, because you just reference that affect the
mindset that guys went into this offseason with. Um, well, I mean obviously it's significantly different from the past. I mean we were able to you know, we don't want to ever do it again, but to be able to, you know, we knew when our season was ending, and then we were able to tell them what date to come back. And you know it's just you knew when everything was gonna end, and you know, we get knocked out of the playoffs and uh, you know, it's a it's a very long season. Um. Guys have a lot
of obligations too. I mean like currently right now, Dario and fur Connor still with their national teams right now, and you know, guys just have to Um, you know that when you start playing deeper into the playoffs, there's definitely a lot more that goes into taking care of your bodies. Um. You know, it's just a different plan
in the off season then prior. All right, I'm gonna ratle off some names and as much as you are able and willing to share Uh, go ahead, So let's start with Uh, let's start with the big man, Joel Embiid. What was his offseason? Itinerary as far as he's to do. Listen, what you guys wanted to see him achieve? Um, I mean, Joel obviously is a unique player. He's uh, he's so dynamic in many certain ways, and uh, you know, one of it is just like a lot of balance in
the post um. He's obviously a very very very good post player as it is right now. We um, he's worked a ton. I worked an absolute ton and paying off right now. I mean, looks great right now. And uh, a lot of it was just as balanced in the post um. Really, he's got, you know, two moves he really focused on. Some of it was attacking closeouts as three point shot. Um. He he had a very very
good summer. He was in Philadelphia for a good amount, in Los Angeles a good amount, like until he was over in Africa and he went from Johannesburg and spend time in Cameroon as well. Back at home, you're a pretty modest guy, but it seems like you you two in particular, have really developed a pretty strong relationship over the last four years. That would that be accurate to say Joel's the best? He is? Uh? He is, I mean forever really gets to know him, Like he is
just an unbelievably good human being. UM, funny, extremely competitive. Um, I mean like anybody that's ever played him in a video game or just any sports. Um, you know, he you know, it's a it's a characteristic that you do see in a lot of like the top top top athletes of any sport. There's so competitive and a lot of stuff they do. And you know, Joelson, he's also
just a great human being. I mean all anytime I'm out jogging around and I have my little one year old daughter, like you know, we'll stop by Joe's place. You know, he hangs out with her. She he makes her laugh and everything, and he's a great guy. Would you have expected him Joel to be at this stage? Um, as far as I'm talking, like All Star, All NBA, All Defense. Um, did you see that even from the beginning when he first came into the organization. UM, yeah,
I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah, he uh, he had so much, he has so much talented. I mean, he's he's only gonna keep getting better. I mean, Um, he's extremely competitive, works hard. Um, it just checks all the boxes that's gonna make it has made him a great player. And you know he's you know, he doesn't he doesn't settle either, tries to keep getting better. Um and obviously can't get better in a lot of areas. And uh yeah,
so I mean I did see it. I you know, you never know how quick that's gonna happen though, And he's good, he's been great. Another guy who made an impact real quickly. Rookie of the Year, Ben Simmons. He seems like anywhere he's been on this planet, a basketball in a gym are within pretty close access for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ben. Ben's great, you know, and he's got uh, he's got um you know, comes from a great family like you know, but Ben's Ben Ben Ben also you know, it's just
very good at a lot of different sports. And uh, um, you know he had he's had a very good summer. I'm you know, we're we're all really excited to see this whole team next year. And he's been he's been great. Um, he's been back here too. What were Ben's points of emphasis? Um, you know, obviously he's working a bunch on his shot. Um, and he's also a you know, extremely dynamic player. He can play multiple positions. Um. You know, Um, so he worked on his shot, I know, a lot of different finishing.
He put in a ton of work, like, um, a ton of work. I was very very impressed. Um. We all have been very impressed. And UM yeah, I'm a great, great person too, like we're we are very very fortunate to have a lot of great people. And it's got to be so refreshing and encouraging for you guys as coaches to see two of the most talented players you have on the rosters so highly motivated, like Joe Allen Ben.
I would think because a for their own benefit, be for the team's benefit, but there's got to be a residual effect for other guys in the roster too, seeing them work as hard as they're working. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely, I mean, you know, I always always helps when you're you know, some of your top players are put in the time and commitment that they are he u Ben said.
I think I read recently that he felt like last year as a rookie, there were certain areas and things that he felt pretty confident that he could do to affect the game at the NBA level and have success with and that year one he didn't want to branch too far outside of his comfort zone. But he said this summer he really tried to zero in on some things that he might not have been comfortable doing last year that he wants to apply to this year. Is that exciting to hear as a coach knowing that a
player feels confident to dip his toes into a different area. No, I mean we encourage and we see we see a lot of it that's not seen out there, And yeah, it's very very encouraging. You mentioned earlier obviously alluding to Marquelle Faults being out in Los Angeles and much like the other two guys and Beat and Simmons, Faults looks like he's been a gym rat Um and you allude to the working relationship he's had with Drew Hamlin. What
did you guys see there? How did that all come together and why did it seem like it was the right fit? Um definitely been a good fit. Drews worked with Joel Um as well. Drew's great I mean, does the like unbelievable job of communicating with me, and uh with Brett's and um, um you know that they have a very good stet up there in Los Angeles. Um, he's he's really good. And uh, we're all in the
same page. You know, it's not like one one person's doing something and like it's been very very very good for for everybody. Um, you know, Mark Hel's back now, and um, you know it's Uh I went and saw him, I think three three times. Um Todd Todd wins and we we we Bret one on. I mean people have gone out to see him and spent time with him. You know, mark El's great. We went to, you know, get a little rest out in Los Angeles after one of the workouts and it's been a good little aunt
of time. He's it's a it's a funny, really funny guy. Um well they I mean his spirit seems good. And again I hope that I'm not misremembering this, but I'm just trying to think back to the ear ending press conference that Brett Brown had and he was asked about what do you want to see from Mark cal for the summer, and he was like, being the gym as much as you possibly can and maintain the spirit and if those were numbers one and two. From the outside,
it seems like that's mission accomplished obviously. Embid and Simmons and Faults. They are relatively on the younger side, up and coming players still very much in this league. What do you do for an offseason development plan for let's say someone like a JJ Raddick or an Emir Johnson, Guys who have been mainstays in this league for a while and are clearly at a different point in their career than some of those three youngsters are. Um, so each each guy kind of as their coach that uh
they work with. Um uh, I haven't been with those two, but uh like John Bryant works with Amir Johnson and um, you know he's been in been in touch with him a bunch. They went over the whole plan over the summer, texting back and forth. JJ. Um, he just spend a bunch of family time He's got, you know, with Todd and everybody, Like everybody's on the same page with his a lot of It's like taking care of your body
at that point. Um, you know JJ was here today, Like, um, you know, they they they it's just not putting it in the the you know the full contact that uh, you know, a lot of the younger guys will you know, it's a lot of taking care of your body over the summer and prepping up for the for the upcoming season. We're gonna have to wait a little bit to see Zaire Smith in an NBA game. But what did you observe from him? Um in the limited time that you did get to check him out in summer league? Uh,
incredible athlete. Um, he's got a ton of upside. Um, he's he's he's actually his skills are very good. He had didn't show it a bunch during his just the college clips that I watched, Um, he's he's got a good, good skill set. Um, he works his tail off, which is you know, obviously something you want to see and everybody. Um, I'm really excited for the Kid's a great kid and
uh yeah, yeah, unfortunate injury. Um, but he's I mean, as hard as he was working on the court, he's already doing all in his rehab and everything, and the kid has just got a good head on his shoulders. And excited for the future for him. Awesome. Did you always have a track for player development? Was that something
that you were always keen on. So I played like small college and then when I got done, I coached junior college, which was actually one of the best experiences I've ever had at Minneapolis Community College coach for a Hall of Fame coach, his named Jay Pivocum. It was a great experience. And I went from there down to the University of Texas and was down there and as a GA and then special assistant before going to the Spurs, And um, yeah, I would just just love being on
the court. I love being on the court of the guys and learning as much as I can in the in that process and still trying to learn as much as possible, and everybody should be trying to, like learning from all sorts of you know, I still go back and learn from high school coaches or college coaches or other NBA coaches, players, et cetera. Can always keep learning. UM, correct me if I'm wrong on the timeline. But Brett Brown's last season in San Antonio was your season with
the Spurs. Did you guys hit it off pretty quick or had that relationship develop? Um? I mean I mean that their their whole staff there was fantastic obviously, and uh, you know, Brett's obviously I made UM. Aside from just being a great coach, he's a just a very very good human being to be around. He has so many
life experiences and it's been all over the world. Um yeah, so, I mean the whole staff there, like you, it was it was literally like just being in like uh, like a basketball school with all the great brains around that program during that time. And you know, it was a experience that I'll never forget being there for that year. And UM yeah, And obviously now I'm here with Bret and uh it's uh. I learned more and more from
them each year. It's amazing that it seems like there is no challenge er situation that really seems to face him much this summer taking on more responsibilities with the team. UM, how do you think he's handled? What's what's he like on a day to day basis? Around you guys, we get the glimpse of him in front of um A step and repeat, media press conference, drop backdrop. But what's he like? UM? You know, as a coach to deal with him, he's UM, he's like a great combo. He's
very intense. UM, but he's his his humor is like none I've ever been around. He is a really really funny guy. Um And like I said, he's been all over the world, So he has experiences and stories that like you could just you know, sit in a chair and listen to for days or I think it's just really good to just listen to. Um, you know, not only just basketball experiences, but just a bunch of life experience. He has traveled all over the world, and he shares it with the team a lot, you know. I mean,
it's a long NBA season. Um, it's not like we just go in the film session watch basketball stuff every single day. He spends a lot of time letting either him telling some stories or he lets players, you know, do presentations. I think maybe we showed some of that stuff, but he lets players do presentations on stuff that means
that's meaningful to them. And you know, to aside from spicing it up a little bit during the long NBA season, it helps educate everybody about everybody that's in this program here, and it seems like there's a joy factor that he really puts a lot of emphasis on maintaining for everyone that despite all the demands and the intensity, he wants to make sure people are still having fun and getting
something out of it. And I it's it's like even like, um, the coffee pregame sessions that you because you're one of the ring leaders of that with the players that you have. To me, that seems like it's an offshoot of just who knows that could have happened organically, but that sort of thing seems to be the type of um offshoot of Brett's philosophy that just happens organically because the tone that he sets. Yeah, I mean one hundred percent. And uh,
you know he's a big coffee drinker himself. We always invited him to go, but uh, um has he ever attended. Uh Occasionally we'll run into him. He does, uh you know, he's got his morning area. That morning, he's got his Uh he always goes on that job during that time. So um yeah, which he always you know, you know, he's NBA coach, but he always, like when we're in cold areas, he still will use socks as as a
gloves and his runs. But uh yeah, the um you know, we unfortunately have lost Timmy to the Coffee Club, but he he actually did trip to Bali during this summer and Tim I mean, like I said, we've been extremely fortunate to have so many great guys. He he actually got uh. I don't want to miss quote this, but it was like it's like the most expensive coffee in the world that's there, and he got some for t J,
Dario myself, and uh he had it left here for us. So, UM yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know if you can say this. Are we talking more than double figures in price tag? But I didn't. I didn't even ask. I didn't I didn't even ask. I didn't even ask. But uh, that was um, you know, Timmy and wish him the best. I think I think he's gonna do a great no casey, I was with him in Africa and we had coffee Johannesburg every day. Um so we I probably should have done a better job of explaining
that right off the bats, the Coffee Club? Is there an official name for the Coffee Club? Now? All right, well, just for the purposes of this podcast, called the Coffee Club, it's usually you, Dario, t J, and Tim As you said, those are the main stays, right, am I missing anyone else? Joe? Joe will definitely join at times, um JJ you know, we'll see him a bunch. I mean, there's a lot
of guys that just grab copy. But yeah, like the four we we literally always always have a little spot that we go to and try to get someplace local and on the road. It's usually right before the first bus goes to the arena, right, so some time middle of the afternoon. Um, how did that start? I don't even remember. I don't even remember, but um, yeah, I don't even remember. It seems uh like you've just had so many great experiences in the sport. Obviously your family,
um is a recognizable name in the game. Uh, your brother's been with the nets, you got uncle's uh, your dad. I mean, how how meaningful has that been to just go through life, um and see the sport do what it's done for you guys, and uh the effect that's had on your family, Um, it's been great. So my father and then two uncles have all been in the front office. So uh, um my brother and I, but they were all coaches before they did that. UM, so
my brother and I got into coaching. UM. I had a cousin that was in the agency for a bit. He's just getting out of that. Um. But my brother's actually now he was went with a coach Pierce down to Atlanta. Um, who loves it down there. They have an unbelievably good staff down there, and um, he's really excited down there. And UM also to mention that coach Pierce did have his uh baby girl this past month. So yeah, yeah, t J and I went to go see her the other day. Um, maybe two weekends ago.
But it's a beautiful little girl. And they're they're making their remove down to Atlanta, coming up here soon. Um. Their whole family looks great and doing great moving down to Atlanta. And it's the coolest thing because it sounds like you're role in particular it really allows for interpersonal relationships to grow and get stronger. Not to say that other assistant coaches are other coaches don't have that opportunity, but specifically, you really seem to get some quality time
and get to know these guys. And I mean, I'm not gonna lie like it's just been also incredibly lucky to you know, not just saying to say like we've had great people all across the board. Yeah, players, coaches, it's it's it's a hopefully the luck continues and you know we keep having really great people here. It makes work and a lot easier. Um obviously great people, but competitors too then on the court, just makes everything easier
and makes it fun. Well put believe it at that, Chris, thanks so much man, appreciate you for having me now. I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, hope that everyone out there listening had a great, refreshing, exciting summer. But I'd have to think that not many of you, myself certainly included at a summer that hold up to the summer that Chris Babcock can have at that traveling from South Africa to Croatia, thrown in a doubles match with Joel Embiide and Steve Nash, and pretty cool stuff.
I want to thank chrispher taking some time to talk. As always, thank you for listening, and we'll talk to you next time you're on the broadcast.